Coptic: The Final Ancient Egyptian Language

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    00:00 Intro
    00:52 Phases of the Egyptian Language
    2:19 Dialects of Coptic
    4:36 Origins of Coptic Script
    7:55 Genres of Coptic Lit
    12:22 Later History

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  • @ReligionForBreakfast
    @ReligionForBreakfast  Před 2 lety +86

    Signup up for your FREE trial to Wondrium here: ow.ly/avYl30skwQr

    • @Ggdivhjkjl
      @Ggdivhjkjl Před 2 lety +19

      Where are the links you said would be in the description please?

    • @nathangibbons9492
      @nathangibbons9492 Před 2 lety +2

      Can you do a video on Lilith?

    • @angela_merkeI
      @angela_merkeI Před 2 lety +9

      I crave the sources you promised to put in the description!

    • @gabel8345
      @gabel8345 Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for an interesting video. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the current Egyptian arabic dialect is heavily influenced by coptic and earlier Egyptian languages. This includes both vocabulary and grammar.

    • @yanleclerc160
      @yanleclerc160 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nathangibbons9492 q

  • @violetrose415
    @violetrose415 Před 2 lety +1594

    I am a coptic christian from Egypt, thanks for bringing forth a cultural cornerstone of Copts of Egypt to the awareness of others. It fills my heart with peace to see part of my culture shown out with respect.

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Před rokem +111

      Peace 🕊 my friend, from 🇬🇷
      Our nation state and the orthodox coptic community of Egypt have always stool for each other

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Před rokem +53

      i'm a Iberian i have Coptic DNA , and DNA links to Ptolemaic mummies seems i got important ancestors despite today be too poor

    • @atamoura
      @atamoura Před rokem +9

      Same here!

    • @nithin_5896
      @nithin_5896 Před rokem +82

      @@sarantis1995 I'm a Syriac Christian. Love to all my Middle Eastern as well as Orthodox Christian Brothers/Sisters worldwide, Coptic, Greek, Russian, Ukrainian, Armenian, everyone!

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Před rokem +42

      @@nithin_5896 If only we didn't live in the most bloodshed place of the world

  • @wanderingkangaroo9908
    @wanderingkangaroo9908 Před 2 lety +618

    When I younger, I actually knew Coptic. My church still uses it. Very beautiful!

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 Před rokem +20

      How did you learn? Were you just familiar with the texts they used liturgically or Coptic in general?

    • @AmandaRussell903
      @AmandaRussell903 Před rokem +11

      Knew? You forgot your language?

    • @sk1ppercat912
      @sk1ppercat912 Před rokem +81

      @@AmandaRussell903 it happens I watched a video about a linguist who taught his baby Klingon just to see if he could. He only ever spoke to his baby in Klingon and his wife used English. The kid started babbling and then speaking some Klingon. Showing the same patterns as a child learning any other language. But once the kid realized no one else uses it they slowly stopped using it and know as a teen doesn’t remember any of it.
      So it’s definitely possible to forget a language

    • @Varphi_
      @Varphi_ Před rokem +30

      @@sk1ppercat912 yeah it just happens all the time. like a lot of 2nd/3rd generation Americans who originally spoke a different language, like fpr me French, if you don’t keep speaking consistently you grow up and forget most of not all of it

    • @objectivecompleted-9474
      @objectivecompleted-9474 Před rokem

      I knew omega to ti

  • @nickscurvy8635
    @nickscurvy8635 Před 2 lety +1435

    "this isn't even my final form!" - ancient demotic

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  Před 2 lety +305

      Final boss with multiple stages.

    • @Jake-zk3eb
      @Jake-zk3eb Před 2 lety +73

      @@vlc-cosplayer" Trying to create the mother of all languages here jack, can't fret over every syllable.

    • @checkoffgames
      @checkoffgames Před 2 lety +17

      @@ReligionForBreakfast I like language videos.

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 Před rokem +17

      I mean, modern English isn't its final form, either. 😉

    • @Mofi357
      @Mofi357 Před rokem +1

      ikr right i dont even know my last name yet till i get there.

  • @narmergeorge4122
    @narmergeorge4122 Před 10 měsíci +90

    My husband speaks Coptic ,He teaches our children and they speak Coptic with him as a native language . We are Akhmimic Egyptians .

    • @M3lm-H
      @M3lm-H Před 6 měsíci +5

      Greetings from El-Minya👏🏻💪🏻

    • @eliafeda4429
      @eliafeda4429 Před měsícem +2

      Can he teach me?

    • @aidhengilbertmusic
      @aidhengilbertmusic Před 9 dny

      I want to learn please

    • @Maiaspe
      @Maiaspe Před 4 dny +1

      I can teach you Sahidic. My response keeps failing to save, I had longer ones previously and I have grown tired of typing. If you would like to learn Sahidic Coptic, reply below and I will send you the link to my Ⲙⲁⲓ̈ⲁⲥⲡⲉ Coptic learning page.

  • @Figue-
    @Figue- Před 2 lety +667

    As a student in Egyptology currently studying Coptic, I’m very pleasantly surprised by this video. It was very complementary to what we learn at the university :)

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Před 2 lety +6

      do you speak Arabic?

    • @Figue-
      @Figue- Před 2 lety +27

      @@starcapture3040 unfortunately I don’t really yet, only basic words and expressions. However, I do speak ans read (modern) Hebrew and it does help with my Arabic ahah. Why ?

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Před 2 lety

      @@Figue- it dose help because they have common sounds but hirgalphis too have common sounds with Arabic learn to read it first nd everything else will b much easier for you. Egypt is top scammer country you can't survive it without learning how to read Arabic at least.

    • @jacobavners2394
      @jacobavners2394 Před 2 lety +4

      I've been looking for partners to practice Coptic with for, like, ages! Any chance we can chat somewhere or perhaps even open a group for this subject?

    • @javierderivero9299
      @javierderivero9299 Před 2 lety +3

      I understand nobody can't talk or understand or talk old egyptyan...coptyc might have some similarity ...but not that close to old egyptian..is that true?

  • @cookies.lover2469
    @cookies.lover2469 Před 7 měsíci +103

    I am an Italian- Filipina that studied the coptic language for one semester in Germany 😅 My major was ancient cultures and I was free to choose one of the ancient languages available and I went for coptic. In our course were only 6 students. It was really exciting and fun to learn this language and attempting to read and write it. It felt like I was doing something sacred and magical. It is really sad that it is one of the dying languages. My professor dedicated her entire life on the subject of analyzing coptic ancient culture and it’s language. She told me that the university wanted to remove coptic language from the program because there were only few participants. But she said she was happy if only one person could learn it. I changed my major later to economics and politics but my coptic lesson was the most fun subject in my entire university time. I also kept all of the study papers and documents for grammar and vocabulary until now.

    • @MMy-bi1ev
      @MMy-bi1ev Před 6 měsíci

      If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

    • @BaxorUpGreat
      @BaxorUpGreat Před 5 měsíci +3

      I am sorry that you gave it up.

    • @kanalisationerstellen
      @kanalisationerstellen Před 4 měsíci

      cant find many jobs with it@@BaxorUpGreat

    • @mrdoob7824
      @mrdoob7824 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Is there any way you can send me your papers on coptic grammar and vocabulary to me? Plz reply to me to get in touch 🙏 🙏

  • @eliayacoub6913
    @eliayacoub6913 Před rokem +322

    As an Orthodox Christian Egyptian, I'm really grateful for you for making this video, ty❤️

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 Před rokem

      When they use Coptic liturgically, you don't feel like you're missing out on intelligibility?

    • @xerusume
      @xerusume Před rokem +16

      @@stevenv6463 not really because you can understand most of the words with practice, plus there's usually translations side by side in English and Arabic

    • @oraetlabora1922
      @oraetlabora1922 Před rokem

      @@stevenv6463 How?

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 Před rokem +1

      @@oraetlabora1922 as in you would understand better in English, Arabic or whatever the local language is, no? You don't feel like you're missing out because you don't understand the language like your native language.

    • @oraetlabora1922
      @oraetlabora1922 Před rokem +5

      @@stevenv6463 Yes, but studying another language is also possible. That is that about which philology is.

  • @SomasAcademy
    @SomasAcademy Před 2 lety +548

    Knowledge of the Coptic language also played a vital role in allowing early Egyptologists to figure out how to read Hieroglyphics. If anyone is interested in learning more, I have a series on my channel called "Decoding Hieroglyphs," and in Part 2 I talk about early Egyptologist Jean Francois Champollion's study of Coptic.

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami Před 2 lety +6

      hi love your videos

    • @djehuti5571
      @djehuti5571 Před 2 lety +57

      unfortunately, a lot of people don't know the role of the egyptian priest father John (abouna yohana) in helping champollion in translating the Rosette stone

    • @stevenhe198911
      @stevenhe198911 Před 2 lety +5

      interesting

    • @princeali417
      @princeali417 Před 2 lety +34

      smoothest self promotion i have ever seen.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy Před 2 lety +14

      @@djehuti5571 Yes, dear old Yuhanna Chiftichi, I talk about him in my video on Champollion!

  • @keronader94
    @keronader94 Před 2 lety +104

    As a Coptic Egyptian (coptic orthodox)got really excited when i saw the title!

    • @dojamouse9455
      @dojamouse9455 Před rokem +3

      I am Indonesian but i am so excited too, bcoz i love everything about coptic, Egypt and Egyptian christian 🤗🤗

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem +1

      Oriental Orthodox?

    • @keronader94
      @keronader94 Před rokem +1

      @@gringo3002 yes, but specifically Coptic Orthodox. There are multiple churches that fall under Oriental Orthodox umbrella.

    • @olekcholewa8171
      @olekcholewa8171 Před 4 měsíci

      Please learn the language and don't let yourself get culturally genocided by Arabs.

  • @emmy3335
    @emmy3335 Před 2 lety +244

    out of pure curiosity I took 2 semesters of coptic as an undergrad taught by a professor in our religion department who specialized in gnosticism. I was the only person in there who wasnt a grad student specializing in early christianity lol, but it was really cool and I learned a lot not just about the language but also from the texts she had us read

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  Před 2 lety +55

      Yeah it’s generally a grad level course, for no good reason imo

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 Před rokem +3

      What University?
      Did it happen to be Yale? (I've taken the History of the Era associated with New Testament. My interests are around the subject and I have one of my degrees in History.
      Dale Martin. Professor Emeritus, Yale taught the class. Was wonderful.

    • @emmy3335
      @emmy3335 Před rokem +6

      @@bethbartlett5692 @Beth Bartlett no it was Rice University, professor April DeConick who has actually been mentioned on this channel before, in the video on mandaeism xD

    • @treubuchet
      @treubuchet Před rokem +1

      @@emmy3335 Wow! I have read a few of April's books.

  • @minahimself
    @minahimself Před 2 lety +145

    I am Coptic, and I think you did pretty well!

    • @VladVlad-ul1io
      @VladVlad-ul1io Před 2 lety

      Can you speak it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
      @MrAllmightyCornholioz Před 2 lety +7

      RA BLESS YOUR PEOPLE

    • @EGYPT.ATREES
      @EGYPT.ATREES Před rokem +40

      Coptic is synonymous of Egyptian. You don’t need to be “Coptic” to be native Egyptian. In fact, the vast majority of Muslim Egyptians descend from Egyptians that were Coptic Christians and later on converted to Islam. When the Arabs conquered Egypt, they forced the population to either pay taxes (Jizya) or convert and become Muslims. The majority of the people couldn’t afford a constant taxation in order to preserve the Christian faith.

    • @dr.banoub9233
      @dr.banoub9233 Před rokem +15

      @@EGYPT.ATREES
      Muslim Egyptians are less related to ancient Egyptians by 18% when compared to the ethnoreligious Copts, who by definition , practice endogamy. Muslims have no restrictions on whom to hybridize with.

    • @dr.banoub9233
      @dr.banoub9233 Před rokem +11

      @@EGYPT.ATREES
      Anecdotal personal dna tests are not the same as peer reviewed scientific evidence. It remains a scientific fact that there is a strong Coptic genetic component which differentiates Copts as being the most closely related to their ancient Egyptian forebears due to the historical and cultural practice of endogamy .

  • @cemreomerayna463
    @cemreomerayna463 Před 2 lety +142

    I loved it! As an amateur linguist and translator I wish at least some classics departments included Coptic and Aramaic/Syriac in their curriculum considering how important languages they were in the late antiquity.

    • @JacquesMare
      @JacquesMare Před 2 lety +4

      I wonder whether Duolingo will consider adding these languages. Maybe they can add ancient Greek and Hittite too....

    • @mikeharrison1868
      @mikeharrison1868 Před 2 lety +11

      Aramaic is still a living language...

    • @karlcarlsen9664
      @karlcarlsen9664 Před rokem +6

      They do.......somtimes......at least in germany are severale coptology degree courses for example in Münster.

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Před rokem +1

      @@JacquesMare if they can add Klingon and High Valerion they can add Coptic

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Před rokem

      @@mikeharrison1868 aye but it's still an important language in classical studies

  • @youssefelmasry95
    @youssefelmasry95 Před rokem +75

    I’m Egyptian and you nailed it 👌🏼 thank you 🙏🏼

  • @michaelcorbetaro3306
    @michaelcorbetaro3306 Před rokem +21

    im egyptian and i really thank you for your effort and share with us 🇪🇬God bless you

  • @manetho5134
    @manetho5134 Před 2 lety +190

    Thank you for this great video about Egypt and it's ancient language🇪🇬 I myself an Egyptian have learned about things I never knew
    I am Muslim but I wish the the ancient Egyptian language becomes part of our school curriculum, we need to know atleast a little about this fascinating language our ancestors spoke

    • @aten5102
      @aten5102 Před rokem

      You're an Arab, you've never been a real Egyptian. Go research the Arab invasion.

    • @amrovine4029
      @amrovine4029 Před rokem +45

      @@jannguerrero
      Most Egyptian Muslims are not Arabs
      They may have mixed with Arabs but still generally closer to coptic Egyptians genetically nonetheless

    • @mansur8451
      @mansur8451 Před rokem +7

      No need. Egypt is an Arab-Muslim nation, part of Islamic civilization. Acknowledging Coptic history is fine, no needed to waste time teaching it in schools. Egypt needs to improve its teaching of math, physics, civic and political sciences, arts etc instead.

    • @drewc.2887
      @drewc.2887 Před rokem +64

      @@mansur8451 it’s not a waste of time to spend time on your ancestors language. People should be allowed to understand where their people came from.

    • @manetho5134
      @manetho5134 Před rokem +28

      @@jannguerrero
      I may have Arabic, Greek or Turkish ancestry, I can't say for sure, but what I know is that the majority of modern day Egyptians are the descendants of the same Egyptians that lived here 1000s of years ago, Egyptians were never annihilated, ethnically cleansed or genocided in any period in history, so their blood still lives in us

  • @markwagdyel-magrisy6620
    @markwagdyel-magrisy6620 Před 2 lety +64

    Thanks for making this episode ❤️
    Greetings from a Copt.

  • @minadent
    @minadent Před rokem +33

    I am Coptic and learned many new things about the Coptic language from your video. Thank you.

  • @andrewsuryali8540
    @andrewsuryali8540 Před 2 lety +77

    I think you need to add a short explanation that the Popes mentioned are Coptic Orthodox ones, as I bet many people especially from an American Protestant background would be unaware that there are other papal lines.

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 Před rokem +1

      There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 Před rokem

      There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem

      So Oriental Orthodoxy has Popes?

    • @YuhannaMourad
      @YuhannaMourad Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@gringo3002Pope may just mean the Bishop of an Apostolic See.

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@gringo3002 Also, "Pope" and "Patriarch" both mean "father" in Greek. The Patriarch of the Greek Eastern Orthodox is also sometimes called the "Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria."

  • @BaronEurchild
    @BaronEurchild Před 2 lety +40

    I have no doubt you are one of the wisest people to talk about these topics. Not because you know the most, but because you know enough to cite all of the research you have done. You are standing on the shoulders of giants and you acknowledge that, which is way wiser than most CZcams scholars.

    • @BaronEurchild
      @BaronEurchild Před 2 lety +5

      Sidenote, I doubt it would be as detailed of an episode, but I would be interested to know a little bit more about old church Slavonic.

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 Před rokem

      @@BaronEurchild Me too!

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 2 lety +42

    I remember a few years back there was a devastating attack on a Coptic Church in Egypt. By extremist of the Islamic variety.

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Před 2 lety

      these acts are lead by the secret police to create division to oppress political parties and the opposition coming from the Muslim majority and BTW Copts aren't angels they can be as scheming and propagandists for the Egyptian dictatorship

    • @shakalalalalkh1098
      @shakalalalalkh1098 Před 2 lety

      getting rid of those Islamists a$$holes in power may as well be the only good thing the modern regime did. They would've made Egypt into such a terror that ISIS would've been a Disneyland by comparison. to this day there still is abductions and executions against coptic christians, however the country is regaining control and is getting a lot safer

    • @zombieat
      @zombieat Před 2 lety +11

      just one you heard of? lol there have been hundreds in the past decade.

    • @samihabdelmalik7146
      @samihabdelmalik7146 Před rokem +3

      Not only once since their Arabian conquer to us to this day but the church is alive by God's grace.

    • @grapeshot
      @grapeshot Před rokem +2

      @@zombieat I mentioned that one attack in my comment. Feel free to list others.

  • @jaca2899
    @jaca2899 Před 2 lety +26

    I WAS JUST BEGINNING TO GET OBSESSED WITH COPTIC THIS VERY SAME WEEK, AND THEN YOU JUST SO HAPPEN TO RELEASE THIS VIDEO! This is some sort of cosmic connection

    • @pluffer241
      @pluffer241 Před rokem +1

      Calm down
      Everybody has synchronicities happen, nice aren't they :⁠-⁠)

  • @block2.017
    @block2.017 Před 2 lety +109

    Old Church Slavonic and Coptic are two of the most underrated ancient languages

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před rokem +11

      I would put in a good word for Eastern Syriac
      Nestorius is the most underrated saint

    • @vroomkaboom108
      @vroomkaboom108 Před rokem +14

      @@zimriel *most appropriately forgotten heretic

    • @ijnfrt
      @ijnfrt Před rokem +14

      Old Church Slavonic is not an ancient language.

    • @jovan8691
      @jovan8691 Před rokem +19

      ​@@ijnfrt Yep, medieval.

    • @SrednyStog
      @SrednyStog Před rokem +4

      Old Church Slavonic is hardly underrated and hardly ancient

  • @MrCofet
    @MrCofet Před 2 lety +32

    I don't comment much but I just want to personally thank you for your hard work in your dissemination of various topics.

  • @martinokhalil4900
    @martinokhalil4900 Před rokem +36

    Thank you from a Copt 🇪🇬
    I speak Coptic fluently btw

    • @coolbrotherf127
      @coolbrotherf127 Před rokem

      Did you learn from just reading and hearing it a lot of did you study the language more closely?

    • @felobatirmoheb4884
      @felobatirmoheb4884 Před rokem +7

      ​@@coolbrotherf127 Considering he put an Egyptian flag there I believe he is a copyic orthodox christian like myself and learns and reads it in church and sunday schools.

    • @dojamouse9455
      @dojamouse9455 Před rokem +1

      Wow, you are the real Egyptian, bravo!!

    • @felobatirmoheb4884
      @felobatirmoheb4884 Před rokem +2

      @@dojamouse9455 damn i smell that sarcasm all the way from over here. Bravo!

    • @dojamouse9455
      @dojamouse9455 Před rokem +1

      @@felobatirmoheb4884 did i say something wrong? If so i am sorry, bcoz as i know the real Egyptian is "the coptic people" other than that they are just imigrated from surrounding country

  • @Mo95793
    @Mo95793 Před 2 lety +31

    yes, finally this is something I wanted to learn about for so long!

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 Před 2 lety +78

    A modern video on the Assyrian language would be nice

    • @ratisbonawau
      @ratisbonawau Před 2 lety +7

      Real 💯

    • @loveandmercy9664
      @loveandmercy9664 Před 2 lety +8

      That's next episode. Than the Maronite Levant dialect after.

    • @badgoy534
      @badgoy534 Před rokem

      @@loveandmercy9664 Maronite Arabic is spoken in Cyprus, Palestine and Lebanon with each distinct sub dialects

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem

      Akkadian?

  • @wanderingkangaroo9908
    @wanderingkangaroo9908 Před 2 lety +20

    Coptic guy here! You did an amazing job

  • @thesinfultictac5704
    @thesinfultictac5704 Před 2 lety +80

    A young Egyptian boy was using an old text to do spells and make charms. Eventually his stern Coptic Orthodox mother caught him in his wizardry and shamed him saying.
    I don't like you messing around with those texts, its Demotic!

    • @wmdkitty
      @wmdkitty Před 2 lety +17

      Ugh, take my upvote.

    • @user-pv4mn6dn6d
      @user-pv4mn6dn6d Před 2 lety +9

      While sorcery is not something practiced by Copts, it was widely practiced in rural Fellahin Egyptian villages.

    • @-amel-9896
      @-amel-9896 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@user-pv4mn6dn6dunfortunate it's still practiced today in Egypt too... As an Egyptian I have heard so many cases of family being put under sorcery spells by others with harmful intentions... Some actual egyptologists higher them to break the spells from pharaonic antiquities as well, it's just very hidden off

  • @giordy9013
    @giordy9013 Před 2 lety +23

    Scary, but satisfying enough, I was thinking about this today, I was watching a documentary about Egypt and started wondering about the origin of coptic

  • @sorenaleksander2670
    @sorenaleksander2670 Před rokem +20

    We who love these channels know what Coptic is only very generally. This quick history has a lot of information packed into it, and is utterly fascinating!!! Just - GREAT!!! Cheers!

  • @JacquesMare
    @JacquesMare Před 2 lety +78

    Can you do an interview with an academic who's fluent in Coptic that can maybe give us a first person perspective on the language? Has there been an improvement in the number of speakers? How well do they engage with the older forms of Coptic and are they optimistic that Coptic can make a comeback?

    • @samc8570
      @samc8570 Před 2 lety +23

      Coptic hasn't been spoken other than a liturgical language at least in a widespread way since the middle ages. There were reports of small communities of speakers even up to the early 20th century, though this would have been quite rare. But I know there's a course being taught in Jerusalem where they're teaching it like a spoken language.

    • @loveandmercy9664
      @loveandmercy9664 Před 2 lety +23

      If Hebrew can than why not? Aramaic is having a comeback.

    • @MRawash
      @MRawash Před 2 lety

      check out this guy, he's part of the Coptic revivalist movement in Egypt, tho he makes very few videos in English (mostly aimed at Egyptians) czcams.com/users/Mekerino1

    • @Maoilios12
      @Maoilios12 Před 2 lety +7

      @@loveandmercy9664 Hebrew was useful for communication between Jews in Israel who spoke different native languages. Aramaic speakers are found in both Iraq and Turkey and speak different languages. Meanwhile, most Coptic Christians already Egyptian Arabic. There isn't the same need for Coptic in that case.

    • @nathanjohnwade2289
      @nathanjohnwade2289 Před 2 lety +2

      The best person to talk to is a monk.

  • @untitled9229
    @untitled9229 Před 2 lety +12

    This video is perfectly timed! I was just looking up the history of Coptic yesterday and this breaks things down so well!

  • @shakalalalalkh1098
    @shakalalalalkh1098 Před 2 lety +17

    Ⲛⲟⲩϥⲣⲓ from a fellow Egyptian, currently studying coptic

    • @msba7
      @msba7 Před 2 lety +6

      بتلاقي فين مصادر كويسة للدراسة؟ أنا مش لاقي أي مصدر عربي كويس حتى شارح الأبجدية القبطية، فضلا عن اللغة

    • @shakalalalalkh1098
      @shakalalalalkh1098 Před 2 lety

      @@msba7 there's a playlist of roughly 33 videos named "Coptic Language Lessons (CYC)", it's the best thing to get you started. after that you have to go to a university course , there's no other way ..yet

    • @nathanjohnwade2289
      @nathanjohnwade2289 Před 2 lety

      @@msba7 If need be, talk to a priest or monk.

  • @megmeg13
    @megmeg13 Před 2 lety +12

    this is such a cool video!! Thank you for making this, I’ve been thinking about getting into Coptic and this was really informative!

  • @MrFreezook
    @MrFreezook Před 2 lety +17

    It's true, Egyptian Arabic Slang (Not the Classic one) Is full with Egyptian Egyptian (I don't know if I should call it coptic particularly)

    • @wastedxbusted
      @wastedxbusted Před 2 lety +8

      @portable-cimbora but it directly descents from ancient Egyptian, if I’m not mistaken.

  • @alessandro_natali
    @alessandro_natali Před 2 lety +40

    This channel keeps getting better and better 😎 love the content

  • @PauldeSwardt
    @PauldeSwardt Před 2 lety +21

    Great content as usual. I was on a whirlwind US lead tour of Egypt last year (You yanks sure make hard work of vacation!) and was in Coptic Cairo starting with Saints Sergius and Bacchus Church (Abu Serga) but managed to miss my bucket list item of the Coptic museum. So I have an excuse to return for a more leisurely visit.

  • @riverstone100
    @riverstone100 Před rokem +12

    Wonderful presentation! So many beautiful manuscripts. Very informative. Thank you!

  • @ASMM1981EGY
    @ASMM1981EGY Před rokem +9

    I'm Egyptian Muslim I speak Coptic and Ancient Egyptian 😃🤩💙 "Oujai" Hello

  • @williamvanessen1604
    @williamvanessen1604 Před 2 lety +11

    Saw the upload notification as I was heating up some water to make my breakfast, perfect timing!

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 Před 2 lety +22

    This was a great clarification of ancient Egyptian vs. Coptic. Excellent!

  • @yousrymikhail9809
    @yousrymikhail9809 Před rokem +6

    Informative and a great contribution, thank you for the effort.

  • @ReligiosityPlus
    @ReligiosityPlus Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic video! Just what I needed for a future video! Much respect!

  • @namingisdifficult408
    @namingisdifficult408 Před 2 lety +10

    Your videos are what inspired me to learn more about religion and now I'm a religious studies major.

  • @paulziolo9241
    @paulziolo9241 Před rokem +4

    An excellent video, highly informative and well-presented, essential watching for those pursuing the study of psychohistory.

  • @SpartanLeonidas1821
    @SpartanLeonidas1821 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Absolutely Fascinating!
    Love our Egyptian Friends! 🇬🇷❤️🇪🇬

    • @MMy-bi1ev
      @MMy-bi1ev Před 6 měsíci

      If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

  • @rayhilchey6706
    @rayhilchey6706 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wow, there is so much information in this. I am overwhelmed. Well done sir.

  • @sandro-eliesaad9541
    @sandro-eliesaad9541 Před rokem +5

    Amazing as usual, Andrew ❤

  • @bobii379
    @bobii379 Před rokem +5

    Very thorough and so interesting, thank you!

  • @Djynni
    @Djynni Před rokem +8

    As a lay person interested in the origin of language I really appreciate this channel. Thanks for the content!

  • @nixylynx4510
    @nixylynx4510 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing quantity of information ..!.. Congratulations and thank you very much.

  • @stefanschleps8758
    @stefanschleps8758 Před rokem +1

    Excellent overview. Thank you. That gets you an instant sub.
    Keep it up.

  • @jmpht854
    @jmpht854 Před 2 lety +37

    I used to visit Coptic Orthodox parishes and it was always interesting to see what efforts were being made to revive their ancestral language (or languages perhaps). Has there been an emphasis in the revival movement on learning one particular dialect/language - like the Bohairic used in the services - or are they working to revive several of the dialects/languages?

  • @youtherthyfproduction5005
    @youtherthyfproduction5005 Před 2 lety +14

    THANK YOU i love this video.
    btw we in egypt also use some coptic words in everyday arabic like shabora(fog)

  • @Sancta.Aegyptus
    @Sancta.Aegyptus Před rokem +4

    I am coptic christian from Egypt and this is a great video

  • @nectanbo
    @nectanbo Před 2 lety +9

    Thank you for this brilliant video - much love from a Copt 😁❤️👌🏼

  • @markjohnson543
    @markjohnson543 Před rokem +3

    Very informative and well done. Super interesting.

  • @deniseeulert2503
    @deniseeulert2503 Před rokem +5

    I don't know what algorithim popped this up but I'm glad it did. I have studies Biblical Greek, Koine, and this adds to some of the side material about different codices.

  • @MasterGeekMX
    @MasterGeekMX Před 2 lety +19

    I remember hearing that the early egyptologists like Champollion used coptic to "reverse engineer" ancient egyptian.

    • @ThatBernie
      @ThatBernie Před rokem +9

      That’s true! His knowledge of Coptic was instrumental in his decipherment of hieroglyphs. At the time it was still undecided whether Coptic was descended from the ancient Egyptian language, and Champollion’s decipherment proved that it was.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před rokem +3

      Champollion needs to be elevated as a saint in all our churches

    • @ehabbob5111
      @ehabbob5111 Před 7 měsíci

      that s true

  • @marielademetrick290
    @marielademetrick290 Před rokem +2

    Amazing descriptive video!

  • @ministeriosemmanuel638
    @ministeriosemmanuel638 Před rokem +24

    Coptic is a very interesting language!
    Gonna learn it.
    Please do a video on the Aramaic language

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem +1

      There needs to be more videos on Aram and the Arameans.

  • @janvanhoyk8375
    @janvanhoyk8375 Před 2 lety +18

    RFB, I know you have staff researchers and must spend a lot of time producing this content, but curious if you are currently doing any new research of your own? Either way, even just relating and explaining other well researched topics for a larger audience is extremely useful and appreciated.

  • @moonrisegazer
    @moonrisegazer Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your great videos, you are my favorite channel

  • @believeinpeace
    @believeinpeace Před rokem +2

    So much to learn. Thank you for the education

  • @magnari81
    @magnari81 Před 2 lety +5

    My grandmother is a Copt from Port Said! Love from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @worldcitizeng6507
    @worldcitizeng6507 Před rokem +3

    You really know your subjects 🤓 I met acfew coptic Egyptian in Aswan, Luxor, Cairo during my Egypt journey in September 2021

  • @shaolin1derpalm
    @shaolin1derpalm Před 2 lety +2

    Nice and easy to understand. Good vid.

  • @Carlos-ln8fd
    @Carlos-ln8fd Před 2 lety +2

    Your videos are so amazing thanks

  • @HassanRadwan133
    @HassanRadwan133 Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent, thanks!

  • @happymisterbad
    @happymisterbad Před 2 lety +10

    “From Moscow to Michigan” is a great phrase

  • @citationneeded-hy9iz
    @citationneeded-hy9iz Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent work! You should come to Egypt and see the amazing sites attributed to the journey of the Holy Family, and the ancient monasteries which have been in continuous operation since 300AD.

  • @alechorn1109
    @alechorn1109 Před 2 lety +1

    Another great one. Thanks

  • @genavialts3058
    @genavialts3058 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm so early yay. Been curious about Coptic for a while. So yay

  • @prchdm
    @prchdm Před rokem +11

    It always fascinates me that the last 1000 years of Egypt's history before the Arab conquest, it was Hellenised in a large degree.

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem +1

      From what I understand, the Greeks conquered a large area, at one time.

    • @prchdm
      @prchdm Před rokem +1

      @Gringo300 * yeah, most of the known world at that time. From the Danube river in the Balkans to Indus river in India and from the steppes of Central Asia to the Sahara Desert.

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem +1

      @@prchdm Also, from what I understand, there were a lot of people who weren't ethnic Greek who were fluent in Greek at that time.
      Another thing, from what I understand, Arabs started out in a much smaller area and gradually conquered more and more area.

    • @ahmedelkhwaga2751
      @ahmedelkhwaga2751 Před 6 měsíci

      Muslims not arabs

    • @Faisal-pb5gu
      @Faisal-pb5gu Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@ahmedelkhwaga2751 They were Arab Muslims
      The ethnic and cultural identity of the early conquerors should not be ignored on the pretext that they only wanted to spread religion

  • @ParisAndreou
    @ParisAndreou Před rokem

    Love your new, more "together" and calm look! That's the way!

  • @annawolf8172
    @annawolf8172 Před 2 lety +8

    Love waking up to a brand new history lesson while I make my coffee

  • @georgejackson3114
    @georgejackson3114 Před rokem +4

    We should start to learn this again !

  • @brianhenry7348
    @brianhenry7348 Před 2 lety +5

    (no relation, that I know of) Love your videos and this is no exception. You must hear it a lot that you do very well discussing topics academically but presenting the information accessibly.
    I've watched/read some stuff on the Urim and Thummim from sources I'm less trustful of (admittedly, that means what? Just that I haven't watched them before? still). Knowing essentially nothing about them (or, tangentially related, what, if any, significance there was to the selection of precious stones making the breastplate), I would LOVE to hear you speak on that subject. That's assuming there's even enough scholastically credited knowledge about them to make an entire video.
    In any case, thanks for your work.

    • @M4th3u54ndr4d3
      @M4th3u54ndr4d3 Před rokem +1

      I have syrian jewish ancestry. There are many explanations. They explained to me that Urim and Thumim were two carnelian stones in the clothes of our high priest. One more lighter and one more darker, they were used for answering questions. The name of God written in ancient letters would glow depending on the answer. You can read the description of the garments of the high priest made by Flavius Josephus, who was a priest in times of the destruction of Jerusalem in 1c.e. But in second temple period, the stones didnt glowed because of the sins of the people.

    • @M4th3u54ndr4d3
      @M4th3u54ndr4d3 Před rokem

      Sorry about my english

    • @brianhenry7348
      @brianhenry7348 Před rokem

      @@M4th3u54ndr4d3 Thanks. What you describe is what one of the videos described as the methodology, though it was also described by another as incorrect. Hence the confusion. Neither of these examples was the kind of video to cite their sources so it'd be nice to hear from ReligionForBreakfast who does.

  • @user-eh6th9wj5k
    @user-eh6th9wj5k Před 2 lety +1

    Great content!

  • @andersonchan4063
    @andersonchan4063 Před rokem

    Awesome sharing!

  • @ahmedanubis
    @ahmedanubis Před rokem +8

    Great video!👍
    For those interested, The Egyptian Arabic mainly developed during the Fatimid era as Egyptians adopted Arabic in their professional lives (since Coptic became strictly liturgical and lost it's vocabular variety since it was rarely written in any non religious context) so Egyptians would speak Arabic at work and Coptic at home and slowly the dialect formed characterized by a Coptic grammar(spoken), Egyptianized Arabic words, and many Egyptian words. 🇪🇬

    • @MrLantean
      @MrLantean Před rokem +5

      Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both are members of the Afro-Asiatic family of languages. Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch while Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch. Arabic has increasing becoming the dominant language even among the Copts themselves over the course of centuries. The last vestiges of vernacular Coptic had died out by the 16th or 17th Centuries CE though it persisted for several decades in some rural areas. Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. They also differ from one another terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. These dialects are diverging from each other to become separate languages. Major dialects of Coptic are Sahidic, Bohairic, Akhmimic, Fayyumic, Lycopolitan, and Oxyrhynchite. From 325-800CE, the Sahadic dialect flourished as the literary language throughout Egypt. The Coptic language preserved by the Coptic Church is the Bohairic dialect which was spoken in the Nile Delta. In recent decades, there are attempts and proposals to revive Coptic as a vernacular. It will not be easy as vernacular Coptic has been extinct for around 400-500 years. Coptic linguistic experts can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all known dialects of Coptic. New terms, words and phrases can be created from archaic Coptic ones as well as giving them new meaning. The most practical approach is to adopt loanwords from other languages preferably related languages. Since Coptic and Arabic are related, loanwords will be predominantly derived from Arabic as it is the language of all Egyptians(Christians and Muslims).

    • @terminator1694
      @terminator1694 Před rokem +7

      It was forced not adopted and punishment was cutting tongue. Nice taqiya 👍

    • @umii-jh5fr
      @umii-jh5fr Před rokem +2

      @@terminator1694 THANK YOU,‼️

    • @ahmedanubis
      @ahmedanubis Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@terminator1694 Arw you really generlizing a 25 year period on 1400 years?!

  • @alanfenick1103
    @alanfenick1103 Před 2 lety +6

    Wish you taught World Religions when I was in college! A little overwhelming, but quite understandable! Thanks

  • @javierderivero9299
    @javierderivero9299 Před 2 lety +2

    Ireally like your video...great explanation

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @samihabdelmalik7146
    @samihabdelmalik7146 Před rokem +11

    Thank you very much for your efforts and consideration our original Coptic language and history which are ignored from being studied in our schools and universities they mention it briefly in one or two pages in history books instead other periods specially Islamic period. Your video gave me hope that there are still people in this planet still know about our language and history more than our neighbours in the same country. God bless you all.

    • @MrLantean
      @MrLantean Před rokem +2

      Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely related dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. However, the dialects differ from one another in terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. This meant Coptic dialects are diverging from each other on the path of becoming separate languages. This is analogous to how regional dialects of Latin spoken throughout the Roman Empire diverged from each other to become separate languages under its own family of languages known as Romance languages. Reviving Coptic as a vernacular requires a lot of work. Coptic had ceased being a vernacular language since the 1500s or 1600s and the usage has been restricted as liturgical language of the Coptic Church especially the Bohairic Coptic dialect. Coptic specialists can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all Coptic dialects. The language lacks modern terms, words and expressions due to the fact that it cease being a vernacular language for several centuries. Specialists can create new ones from archaic ones found in either Ancient Egyptian or Coptic ones. The most practical approach is to use loanwords from other languages preferably related family of languages. Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both languages belongs to the Afroasiatic family of languages which has several branches. Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch while Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch. Loanwords will be predominantly from Egyptian Arabic since it is the language spoken by all Egyptians( Christians and Muslims).

  • @samywaleed9545
    @samywaleed9545 Před rokem +25

    Proud to be Coptic ❤️🇪🇬

    • @raymonko
      @raymonko Před rokem

      Pls be proud of what you achieve, not how you were born as. No one chooses where they get born.

    • @cavithalilparlak2264
      @cavithalilparlak2264 Před rokem

      @@raymonko And why is that ? Why can't you be proud of your ancestors' accomplishment ?

    • @raymonko
      @raymonko Před rokem

      @@cavithalilparlak2264 As I mentioned because we don't choose how we are born! And creating pride based on nationality and racial basis creates all kinds of issues including prejudices against others. Looking back to determine how privileged we are had proven to be detrimental. I know it sounds benign but it is not.

  • @theosisinstituteofhealinga6528

    Thank you. An excellent presentation.

  • @dr.banoub9233
    @dr.banoub9233 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Fun fact-
    The word *_Copt_* is anglicized from the original ancient Egyptian words _Ka Ptah_ which meant the ‘Energy of Ptah’.

  • @kimiboyy
    @kimiboyy Před rokem +5

    Currently studying Coptic on my own, the language was surprisingly still alive till the 1930s in some isolated pockets in Upper Egypt until it ceased to exist after some Pan-Arab trolling unfortunately..

    • @gringo3002
      @gringo3002 Před rokem

      According to what I've heard, a lot of Arab Egyptians are hostile towards Copts.

  • @tpu55
    @tpu55 Před 2 lety

    great stuff, thanks!

  • @atum
    @atum Před 27 dny

    Great efforts thanks

  • @peterfarhat5767
    @peterfarhat5767 Před 2 lety +23

    Hello I am Egyptian, Amazing job but I would like to correct a small mistake , Pope Cyril the Sixth is pronounced as Pope Kyrillos the sixth as the name originally from the letter “ K “ Kappa not “ C “ Cema

    • @peterfarhat5767
      @peterfarhat5767 Před 2 lety +7

      Btw Some families still till now Speak Coptic as their mother tongue, I can speak it but unfortunately wasn’t my mother tongue

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před rokem +3

      He's translating for a Latin audience, this is how Latins pronounce this name today. Likewise Copts have their pronunciation of Greek names which do not match how Greeks spoke at the time

  • @1981bessa
    @1981bessa Před 6 měsíci +3

    I am a coptic christian from Egypt....thank u

    • @MMy-bi1ev
      @MMy-bi1ev Před 6 měsíci

      If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians

  • @sharlkaiser5095
    @sharlkaiser5095 Před rokem

    Thanks for your explanation.

  • @santiagocresci3539
    @santiagocresci3539 Před 2 lety +1

    Gracias. Excelente video.

  • @MaximilianOOO491
    @MaximilianOOO491 Před 2 lety +4

    I had to subscribe after this very informative video. The relationship between history and language is fascinating

    • @spirituallevelofbeing7308
      @spirituallevelofbeing7308 Před 2 lety

      He made a mistake on the age of the Coptic text the Greek version was written around the 4th century or just before the Coptic version was dated around the beginning of the first century or late firs century to the beginning of the second it was copied from an even Earlier copy that has been lost to time its older then the new testament I discuss these subjects and I upload ancient scriptures one love and many blessings peace ✌

  • @ralphbaier7793
    @ralphbaier7793 Před 2 lety +5

    You span quite a couple of topics as a scholar. Hats off.

  • @eloutsider4853
    @eloutsider4853 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the video I am an Egyptian. And it's the first time to know these informations about Coptic language which is still be used in the Coptic churches ceremonies even there's a vallige in upper Egypt people still use it there . And I got to know few words : ))

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 Před 6 měsíci

      we blacks are the true Egyptians you are just arab invaders. jk jk lol

  • @petercoleman7617
    @petercoleman7617 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent-nice and nerdy 😊