The transmission FAILED on April's dream Lincoln! Can Hoovie convince a swap to old German luxury?
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I would like to see how the Merc & Lincoln would stack up against the almighty Jaguar XJ40.
I’m glad hoovie found April she seems like such good positive energy to be around
The Lincoln is a great throwback. Ford was never known for reliable transmissions. Thankfully they are cheap to rebuild and make more reliable.
My god are u frigging kidding me brother, that Lincoln is an absolute heap,y?😬😬💀🤷👁👎👎🙈🙈🙈👎💀💀
@@craigmorgan4676thank you for your absolutely clueless 2 cents.
What if swap with modern ZF ?😉
Ford has a few good transmissions, but you're right for the most part, haha
@@craigmorgan4676so you don’t have any class, that’s ok man. That Lincoln has enough class to make up for your shortcomings!
I’m gonna put this in a quote that Jermey Clarkson said. “This is brilliant! But I like this. Let me put it in this way Hammond. You can buy better dogs than my west highland terrier but I like west highland terrier. Yes it bites the postman and it’s lays dog eggs all over the kitchen and it steals food BUT ITS BRILLIANT” I think that’s how April feels about the Lincoln town car.
Both Jeremy and James are awesome, but I never ever repeat either of the "Royal Lesbian's" quirky quotes. 😵💫😆
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT fair
Perfect analogy!😂
@@scottimusgarrett15 thank you man! I knew that it was just perfect
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT What are royal lesbians?
She's right about the Lincoln.
Exactly the Mercedes doesn’t even have a deer whistle
Sounds like she needs both Hoovie. One to drive while the other is in the shop.
That's a great idea!
Yes she needs both ...Benz very nice and solid.... timing chains nightmare like a Ford phaser problem ...4.6 very good long running.. whorehouse red yikes...Benz very old 107 tech...panther I believe it's called much more modern...I have 107 380 to be exact sister took my tc...
The Merc is THE car to have. Change the timing chains before they NEED to be changed for considerably less cost.
That's really a great idea!
Town Car needs white wall tires, then everything else will fix itself.
You tell them Anthony!
My grandmother had a white on white 90's Town Car. I remember it had a car phone and the mic was in the visor. At a stop light she'd be talking to her visor and people thought she was crazy. A time way before cell phones were common. She loved that car. Whoever got it after she passed got a car with maybe 30,000 miles and driven by a 70 + year old lady in tip top condition.
Also my brother and thought the auto closing trunk was very cool.😄
Maybe 80's Mercedes were more reliable than April's Lincoln, but in the last 20 years, Mercedes and BMW have been crap in terms of reliability and cost of maintenance. The transmission should be cheap to replace or rebuild. You built Hoovie's Garage upon this fact.
Well considering the Lincoln is a Ford underneath even replacing a transmission would be half the cost of a Mercedes. I'm guessing the Lincoln is basically a crown Vic underneath which have been proven to be very reliable. Even if the Mercedes had fewer problems the cost of repairs would outweigh the difference in owning one.
Because both Mercedes and BMW stop the engineers from building cars and allowed the accountant's to do that instead and to this day both companies are paying for it 🤦♂️
Every car is a throwaway commodity these days.
Beside the biodegradable wiring harness
@@jonathansandin1869 And that was down to the German government environmental laws which told motor manufacturer that all their cars had to be recyclable.
I am with April, I love those Lincolns. You have to expect problems with used cars April. Don't let Tyler put down your car April, Tyler spends a fortune on his car repairs.
You forgot "April" at the end
@@charlescalkins3485 Maybe if he wasn't addressing April 'in' April he wouldn't have used the name April so much.....🤤
This is why you buy a Japanese car so you don't have to deal with ratchet ass shit they have bulletproof transmissions and engines I have a acura tl
Actually, Tyler doesn't spend a dime on repairs because he writes them off for his channel.
@@RedLP5000S I mean he writes them off as in he uses pretax money to pay for them so its cheaper by whatever his tax rate is.
The Town Car is the greatest American Land Yacht ever made!!!!!
Technically that title goes to the last one made, the Roadmaster, but I'd give this a close 2nd place. I hear that GM lost several thousand dollars on every one they sold.
Panther platform baby
Disagree.. Country Squire is the BEST panther, 94-96 Roadmaster is up there too. :)
@@plektosgamingthe Roadmaster wasn't the last land yacht, Panther bodies were made deep into the 2000's. Town Car ended in 2011.
@@Vaino_Hotti The production run isn't the important part, but when the last car was introduced. The Roadmaster was markedly more "modern" than the old Panther platform. I've owned both and the Buick was simply a better car with better interior and features as well.. Ford, unfortunately barely made any changes to the entire line for the 20 year run as there was heavy pressure from livery and police, over 95% of their customers, to keep things the same.
It effectively was the best tech in 1992 but by the early 2000s, it was... dated. Without a doubt the best overall, though, if we add in European cars, was the Mercedes S class. (late 90s). Big, built like a tank, and smooth as glass. The double-pane windows and extra insulation made it nearly silent inside. Driving one instantly feels superior in almost every way. The U.S. stuff of the 90s/early 2000s simply did not compete.
The Lincoln is a great car. Get it sorted out. April is happy with her car, that is a WIN Hoovie. Take the win.
Hoovie - don’t take this this the wrong way, but great upgrade.
My wife no longer even considers blowing into my deer-whistle…
I enjoy April's car reviews. And 20 deer ran across my yard when she blew into the deer whistle
April forgot the signature high kick
well, it's NOT the dumbest, but the smartest automotive channel 😉
Can't after the knee surgery
Why does April always look like she's getting ready for the ski slops;
Congrats on hitting 60K subscribers. These special Saturday videos have been fantastic since April first got her Lincoln, hope we get to see more videos in this format. Keep up the good work!
April is such a nice person that she can have what she wants.
I LOVE Town Cars! Would really like to own one one day❤
Even though I love old Mercs and how solid and reliable they are, I'd still go for the Lincoln
Agreed. The Lincoln is just cooler, especially with the red velour interior. The Mercedes is boring.
@@97I30T My buddys dad had the same one with a green interior, way cooler than the red
@@DjJay A green interior would be my preference as well. Those were incredibly rare, though.
Those lincolns were great!!!! Easy to get 400,000 miles out of them!!!!
You guys work well together in this format, more vids like these please!
This.
Thousands of deer whistles seen in my lifetime...and yet not one single person ever bothered to blow into one of them. Comedy at it's finest, TY.
I also prefer the Lincoln.
The Benz seats are hard as a rock, the leather will burn your skin, it rides like a buckboard, and the steering wheel is the size of a manhole cover because the "power steering" is tuned for the autobahn.
Lincolns and Cadillacs from that era are in demand because they have the best balance of technology and comfort
Indeed, my aunt had one she bought it New, I don't recall the year maybe an 81, it was a diesel and had that huge steering wheel, a strong car it's true but as far as comfortable forget about it.
Hoovie really learned his lesson . Ex-wife used to get the best luxury SUVs (and his house) while his new lady gets a 1984 Merc lol .
Yah no more egg rolls an pho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you think she drives these heaps around for anything other than the CZcams video your nuts lol
I prefer the lincoln over the S. Yes, the mercedes was a better built car but it lacks character that makes the lincoln special.
Hoovie making some funnies in this one! LOL The Lincoln is a Chicago car. I can see why April likes it.
No pre-drilled bullet holes, though?
But the Mercedes is “ribbed for your enjoyment “
More bodies fit in the Lincoln’s trunk.
I really enjoy these Saturday videos. Your interactions are entertaining!
W126 Mercedes Benz platform was and I think still the best of the best in automotive engineering, I have my 1986 420 SEL with only 48k original miles and the car is incredible reliable, comfortable and incredible beautiful.
As much as I love the Lincon, that Benz is a timeless work of art.
I'd rather pay repair bills on the Lincoln. M-B are very expensive in their old age.
Yeah but the Mercedes-Benz is a complete money pit compared to the Lincoln.
I drove Lincoln Town cars (and other marques) for a living beginning in the 90s. Cadillacs may have had more seating position adjustments but were painful, almost crippling, after just a few hours. Town Cars were infinitely more comfortable for 12-15 hours days behind the wheel. Surely the better luxury ride and seating are a couple reasons for Town Cars becoming synonymous with black car service. Admittedly 2000 era S-Class MB and Cadillac Escalade seats with massagers, heat, and internal A/C ventilation are better. But Town Cars were NOT uncomfortable like everything GM of the era
I bought a new town car in 1993 when I was 22 years old. Buying and selling cattle in ten states I put 120k miles on it the first year.
A man after my own heart. How long did you keep it? Miles?
@muziklvr7776 I traded in 97 for a new cc4x4 powerstroke, had just over 400k on the clock.
@@CheyenneSuperDuper Impressive!
It is possible to love both the Town Car and the Mercedes, especially since you can get each of these at very reasonable prices now. I’ve grown to love the old American land yachts. I once had a 1996 Olds Ninety-Eight and when it was right it was beautiful; I had to junk it when the Midwestern salt finally rusted through the brake lines and it just was no longer financially sensible to repair. As far as April’s town car, it is beautiful and in amazing condition, and you do still see them all over the Midwest. Yes, it was the official staff car of AARP, but it was also THE limo of the 1990s, the livery service special taking celebs & powerbrokers to and from the airport. And since it’s basically 80% a Crown Vic it’s tough as nails, you can rack up the miles by the hundreds of thousands, and many of the parts are still very cheap and easy to find.
On the other hand the 500SEL was the official executive car of celebs and stock brokers in the 1980s. If you drove that you were somebody and didn’t mind the world knowing. It is so classy that you could roll up to any country club in America and still look like a Baller to this day.
So, was Hoovie trying to talk her OUT of the Town Car…or himself INTO another Merc W126?
What part of the Midwest are you from?
Kansas City, Missouri.
@erikberg8098 Awesome brother, I'm from St.Louis Missouri
A common failure with the AOD was the plastic grommet that attached the cable to the throttle. I upgraded mine to a brass grommet from a later year (I think it was from an Explorer).
My guess is this part was the failure point. So easy to replace before it breaks and smokes the transmission. Should have been a recall.
Loving the energy! I live in Scottsdale and attended Barrett Jackson this year, had an opportunity to interact briefly with Hoovie & April, energy is real, both are genuine individuals. Keep up the amazing content.
Those old German boats are dinosaurs...........the Town Car is classic elegance
My dad had that same Lincoln Town car. The seats are so plush and with the full front plush velvet couch, many of life's pleasures were made there.
I, myself had a 1980 Mercedes 300d. I loved it.
Since she makes you so happy, you must get both toys.
I’d have the 126 over most cars, and especially the Lincoln. ..but I do like that she loves that car, and isn’t willing to let it go because a clearly better one comes along. We’ve all had that with something, or someone, and I tip my hat at her for that. ..my dream? The 126 coupe. Amazing Looking, even now.
Great Video Guys, I have an Idea Tyler, You being the great Fiancee that you are, you should buy the mercedes and give it to April to use till her Lincoln is fixed. The keep it as a spare ride for the next breakdown.
This is based. Why doesn’t it have more likes
Don't do that too her! Like Mercs are ultra reliable...say their HVAC systems.... please...fix the Ford, I mean Lincoln...
A w126 is ultra reliable. Don't confuse its HVAC with that in the w140 series.
I love those old Mercedes. But nothing can take your Captian feeling in an Lincoln or Cadillac landyacht. You win April!
My father was an engineer for Sheller-Globe way back when and he designed the weatherstrip for that Town Car platform. That project was his baby for a while till the new Explorers came along. RIP Old Man
He did good, my 1995 Towncar is still quiet.
More fuel efficient? The Town Car sequential multi port fuel injection gets waaay better MPG than the mechanical injection Mercedes
4:25 Ohhhhh myyyyyyy 👀
6:01 🤩👍👍
Tyler, one luck guy 😗
Nah too skinny
Yeah... she has a swimmer/runner body @@BETFRED1981
April! Don’t give up on your Lincoln! It suits you perfectly!
Timeless classic. The second generation is my favorite of the Town Cars.
Yours is even color themed for Miss Rose. 🌹
I get more folks approach and appreciate the Lincoln than any other car I’ve owned.
agreed
Some of my all time favorite cars are the 95-97 town cars. Logically yes the Mercedes is probably a better car in every way, but I'm totally with April that the Town Car is the one I want haha
I had a 1994 Lincoln town car signature series. Absolutely loved it. I don’t care that it was an old man’s car it was so comfortable. I just enjoyed being in it. It was so reliable and not even that bad on gas. It’s probably one of the last quality vehicles Ford made
Love the mix of scripted bits with a less scripted second half. Among the be GMYT yet! You two have a natural chemistry which is endearing/
You need a 1991 560sel with the SRS (airbags )
I love the Lincoln 🤷🏻 where fashion sits!
Live Hoovie has never bought a car with problems.
"The cheapest one in the whole country!"
I drove a 94 Lincoln Town Car when I was in my early 20's and it was amazing. It had leather, auto climate and many other features I cannot remember. Oh it was white and had a beige cloth top over the top rear part of the car. The air suspension was key and the v8 had decent power. Got her over 100 many times. With fat white wall tires the car really was a beautiful classic the road so smooth and was so big I could drive all my friends around in. Great times, great car.
April needs to try a Buick estate wagon of that Era
I'm happy for you Tyler you look happy. Just make sure you have your prenup this time my friend. Things always change in life.
When she decides to sell the Lincoln I call first dibs
I’m a huge fan of Hoovie and April, but after seeing how much April likes the Grand National and now town car, I’m hooked. Since I was a kid I loved those 90’s Lincoln’s; and it’s nice to see someone my age who appreciates them as well. And don’t worry about the transmission - just replace it and keep going: I have a 2003 Marauder with 320k miles on an original transmission and 2010 Town Car with 210k miles…. These things are workhorses that are built to last and easy and cheap to fix when something does go wrong. Btw: you two make the best content on YT : please keep it coming!
I'm glad you are happy Hoovie. You are absolutely right about that Mercedes. That is one of the best all-around cars ever made. And clearly there is a good reason so few of those Lincolns have survived.
A proper car good to see, as a previous owner of a E32 750iL a proper car. offer Bob what he needs for the merc
I will admit I am not watching youtube as much as in the past so I am slowly getting updated with Hoovies transition but I didnt even notice this was a video about cars. I can take my eye off April... :) Where the hell have I been and wow, GO HOOVIE
I remember the first time i closed the door of a friends diesel Mercedes sedan. When it closed i was amazed at the sound of those doors. I also remember that Mercedes headrests could get you killed because the adjustability of them for your neck made so comfortable you could easily fall asleep at the wheel.
The Lincoln Town Car was absolutely beautiful just a few years later when it got the smaller headlights.
I worked in Beverly Hills in the 80s and these were everywhere. Even saw one that was a cab. Beautiful cars.
I think April might enjoy exploring some of the late 60’s/early 70’s Thunderbirds, Mercury & perhaps the Lincoln Mark 3 of that era. The Ford quality was at its peak at that point 😊
Yes! Some of those even used real wood on the dashboards back then too 👍
‘66 T-Bird convertible FTW.
@@robertbeirne9813 one of the best designs ever right there…especially awesome with the tonneau on the convertible.
I've watched your channel for about three years now, and I love it. Thank you. I had a gray market 1984 500SEL bought in Germany w/all records for almost seven years. It had a custom-dyed jade green velour interior, /w the European plastic wheel covers and the engine w/the wilder cam & high compression ratio. Unique. The world's first car to use side impact door beams, etc. All best.
My closest friend had a 300 SEL and I absolutely loved that car. He was kind enough and lent it to me, or we swapped cars when he needed my strong 4x4 to do something, and I got to cruise the merc. Feeling like a king on the road in that quite luxury car, but even the 300 had enough power to give that train feeling when you floored it. A strong smooth feeling of movement in a car that felt really heavy. Swalloving imperfections in the road and just floated along, it was a dream to drive long distances. Had to fuel it up a few times, and it was hungry, but who cares with that dream of a car. I absolutely love those large SEL's.
Nicest Mercedes car designed and executed... The ugly US market lights that Mercedes had to put were horrendous. The Car was designed to cruise at 220+ KPH all day with the euro headlights and bumpers.... Lets see the Lincoln come close to being stable at 120 KPH.....
@@charlestimmis273 We live in Norway and got the original version, without the ugly American modifications. Was that for safety reasons, and what was supposedly wrong with the original headlights? I had a Nissan Patrol 4x4 and the rules in Europe at that time, was that the rear lights was mounted too high, so the European version had to get some rear lights inside the bumper, to be up to standard. Totall bullshit if you ask me.
One thing that goes undiscussed in these videos is that the Benz has an independent rear suspension, which makes for a better ride.
@@gudfarfar A long, long time ago -- before WWII -- American automakers were required by regulation to use sealed beams. This was, in its time, a step forward for safety, , because of reliability. By the 80's the European non-sealed lights were safe, reliable, and better, and we were still stuck with the ancient rule mandating seal beam units only.
By the mid 80's, the rule was finally dropped. Now the big difference is aiming pattern.
I've always loved this particular Mercedes and many run forever. The venerable Crown Victoria is also a mileage champion when given the chance.
It seems what we have here is a deep pocketed Hovvie who appreciates the Mercedes bloodline and can pay for the upkeep. Brake job maintenance is $3000 ish ? while the bread and butter Vic is what more like $1,000 ? If you challenge these numbers fine but document your objections to the principle - Mercedes cost buckets to maintain compared to the Vic.
I'm with April. My dad always had Mercs, the last one was a '91 420 SE and every time it was serviced it was thousands worth of fixing this and that. Meanwhile I drove a '66 Cadillac, and wouldn't even consider swapping it for a Merc. Granted, by the 80s-90's the American stuff was of lower quality, but still cheaper to buy and maintain and if you like the comfort and "numbness" as I do, well it's not such a clear cut choice.
I’m on your side, April, the Lincoln is good for a little more than 100,000 miles. It sold for a fraction of the Mercedes.
I’d rather have the Lincoln than something German
As a kid,I grew up with town cars, sedan devilles,and new yorkers.
My mother's last town car was a 93,and my dad's last caddy was an 01.
They were decent cars for the time,but I have an R129 sl600 and an sl500. The feel of those old Benz cars is something you need to experience, is it the best at everything? No,but they are so good,I have never driven anything like the sl600,and I have driven and owned almost as much as Tyler!
I owned a rein to that car in 1985. Loved it, but those springy seat drove me crazy, and they were real thigh killers on long trips. The preceding 450SEL seats were way more comfy.
Lincoln for the win.
Tyler, you should bring April to your main channel! Your work REALLY WELL together, but specially in this format of video!
The AOD trans works fine. If the throttle shift cable fails, from the plastic clip, or is misadjusted, you will cause damage. My 1988 Ford van, with 220K miles, and a never serviced AOD, works great. Also my 172K mile AOD equipped Thunderbird SC, shifts fine. How about Chrysler, and GM transmission failures?
SC 🤔... I have 3 of them a 91 is an ATX. I have pulled the TV cable through or to tighten it up just a little bit too cause the shift points to raise up in the RPM a little without issue. Whereabouts are you? Those SC are hard to find and rare to see on the road.
I'm not a transmission guy but I've taken apart several AOD's that were common in my area (Aerostars). What I found was a metal "star", about 3/16" thick that connected two sections of the internal drivetrain. The star had it's ears rounded off. It appeared to me that thrust washers at both ends of said drivetrain would wear out, allowing the two gearsets to walk apart. Once the endplay reached about half the thickness of the star, the star would strip out of the companion slot. We'd keep the shifter out of AOD and drove around in 3rd gear until it got fixed.
That Lincoln was used by limo companies everywhere. All car ride services to the airports in the NYC area loved them. They kept the Lincolns until they had over 200,000 on those Town Cars and the transmissions started going - then they sold them. Many bought Lincoln MKZ or MKXs to keep them 200,000 miles. Few bought German cars. Why? The electrical problems they had killed them before 150,000 miles - usually around 100,000 miles. So for services like this the Lincoln Town Car dominated the scene from the 1990s to the early 2000s in the NY area.
My dad had a Lincoln Town car for a while in Scotland, was an absolutely cracking big car, so comfortable and smooth and just a little buzz when moving, it was so quiet! Unfortunately idiots in the street wouldn't leave it alone, so he had to get rid of it.
My favourite European car is the Citroen CX. It’s extremely comfortable and comes with the amazing powered hydraulic suspension, steering and brakes. Sadly, they did rust but so did everything back then.
I own a 99 Lincoln town car , like April stated , pry the keys out of my dead cold hands …
Bought a 1997 Town Car new. 380k miles later I still loved it. Yeah, I put trans in it. So what. Also owned a 1978 Mercedes 230. Nice drive but WAY more expensive to maintain than the Town Car. Always on the lookout for a low mileage primo 1995/1997 Town Car. SHE'S HOT!!!
April has good taste in Classics. This Good Morning CZcams should be on 3 times per week not 5 times. Yes Autotempest found my 1989 Ford Probe here in Canada. Tyler stay in Kansas don't let love blind you.
Love the Lincoln, but the W126 S-class is one of my dream cars. Specifically in black with either the 5.0 or 5.6 long wheel base version like that one is
Keep the Lincoln
Lincolns are tried and true from panther body. Beautiful history too. Mercedes are unstoppable if cared for. She has style
Entertaining video - thanks! And all points are true. But digging down, is it a fair comparison? $20k price difference in ‘86 is the same as a $57k difference today. It’s like comparing today a $40k new car against a $100k car. Also, as you noted, repair and maintenance cost are at a different level on the German cars. Having stated that, The German cars of 70’s and 80’s were wonderful. Refined well built tanks! Not true anymore; that 40-year old Lincoln is more solid and reliable than most 7+ year-old German cars these days. Disclosure: My car’s German.
Hoovie ask the Wizard witch one is cheaper to service & repair?
I think your Saturday shows are the best. Thank you Tyler and April.
_As much as we love American land yachts, I'm with Hoovie on this one. (My bff still has his 1996 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG, and loves that car). Plus he owns a few Beemers from the brand-new Z4 to a mid-teens 750Li M Sport. At the end of the day, German cars are always better!_
My dad had a 90s 560 sel and several Lincoln’s He loved them all but that 560 was probably the best driving car I have ever drove I love that car! Just solid
It’s funny cuz Tyler has always said that he loves old American land yachts with the cushie couch interior and soft ride suspension.
Hearing the analogy of being wrapped in a coccoon of velour totally had me channeling George Castanza's famous want of being "ensconced in velvet" regardless of whether it was deemed socially acceptable.
I just did a transmission on one of these recently
I really hope this takes off... loving the content
We’ve got the “authentic” wood from the simulation tree😂
I feel the same about my 1990 Caprice Classic Brougham. There's just something about it!!!
I'm glad to see that you manual shift! The best way to drive a Merc with an automatic gearbox.
While driving my 1986 42SEL the deer would run away as if I had deer a whistle attached. Which tells me way the W126 was designed incorporating a deer whistle along with the rest of the way a car should function. I now have a 1997 S500 as my daily driver and have never been happier.
That Lincoln is pretty neat for being one of the earliest Ford "modular" V8s ever produced. The predecessor to the Coyote everyone loves today, really.
In some ways, not all that different from the '80s to early '90s W126 V8s. Chan driven SOHC, but the Ford has a more modern fuel injection system. Where the Mercedes is using a mechanical Bosch K-Jetronic, the Lincoln is using EFI port injection like a real modern car.
Should make more power than the old Benz too, but I suspect the Lincoln weighs more than the old S class.
BUT, I do agree that the Mercedes has a very different feel to it. There is a sense of great attention to detail in the engineering and assembly of those old Benzes. Hard to describe. It's not like modern luxury that's got insane electrical features out the wazoo, it's just a car that felt much higher quality than the vast majority of other cars on the road during its day. Sure, it had some more sophisticated features than many cars of its time as well, but nothing really crazy compared to what's out there now.
The later years of that W126, with a 5.5 liter engine and better compression ratio, were a lot of fun. While the Ford 4.6L 2v V-8's are nice and smooth, I don't think they'd have the same grunt.
Hoovie is WRONG. The Lincoln Is Way Better. & Less Expensive To Repair. That AOD Transmission Way Less expensive