Garmin Varia bike radar - worth it? Full review RTL515
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- Is the Garmin Varia RTL515 rear cycle radar worth having? Full review. The unit has since been returned to Garmin.
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Such fantastic stories in the comments - worth reading.
When the Varia first came out, I thought what a gimmick. Then my wife got me one for a birthday and I adore it to the point that if it broke tomorrow, I would replace it the same day. I can see further back than you can hear and give lots or warning. Yes you do sometimes get some false positives, but I fully forgive these and I know this unit has saved me previously. I was cycling down Bristol Portway which goes from under Clifton Bridge to M5 and I was in the buss lane when the unit flagged up red. I had not heard any traffic and made me look back to see a BMW not in full control doing a speed in excess of 100MPH. I was just about to move over and had I not had that warning, I would not be typing this now. Awesome bit of kit
As a deaf cyclist, I never go out without this. After too many jump out of the saddle moments (as I only hear the traffic at the last minute) it makes my riding a lot more relaxed. Do agree that there could be better mounts for bike packing luggage etc. will be interesting to see what ideas other people come up with.
Get a mirror. Much cheaper and better.
@@bazahaza you do you bro! Not to mention you can't see jack shlt in a mirror unless you have one of those ones attached to your helmet. I agree that actually seeing what the car is doing is more important than knowing it is there...but knowing it is there is better than nothing at all.
I can confirm it does work fine with Wahoo Elemnt Roam. Just did a 211km ride on mostly country lanes and it was really great. Agree you still need to look over your shoulder... at one point I couldn't understand why the vehicle behind was taking so long to pass me, then I realised it was another cyclist going just slightly faster than me... sure he wasn't doing a 200k+ ride though :)
Absolutely love mine, gives me the heads up I so need when out on those long, lonely Kansas roads. I can’t picture not riding with one ever again. Between the audio and visual notifications I’m always aware of what’s coming up behind me. Life saver.
I'd never be without. Excellent video. thank you.
I live in the Somerset countryside and have tried the making eye contact idea - I find that some drivers look you in the eye, seem to acknowledge you and then drive straight into your path. Some research suggests that drivers see cyclists in kit as ‘less than human’. I’ve just been given one of these devices and am looking forward to using it - your review is a great help, thanks! (Mortimer Rhind-Tutt)
Well that’s not very nice of them! I still try to gauge intention for eye contact, especially at junctions.
I think the research you mention was done by Dr Ian Walker. I talk to him about it in the Always Another Adventure podcast episode 44. The differences are there but quite marginal. Nothing can really help if the driver is being an arse.
Excellent thanks for the footage my friend
Have used these for about 5 years or so now. Would agree with most of what your findings are but for me it is its ability to allow me to relax whilst out on the road and enjoy my cycling. It’s got my back. Also, the degree of danger warning if the closing speed of vehicle approaching is dangerously fast.(dark red)
Since getting this, there has been no real incidents from behind as it helps you to work with the traffic especially in headwinds, also it gives you confidence knowing the road is clear behind or at very least where traffic is before you maybe head to the central reservations to turn right. You are able to indicate your intentions and take a more confident road position to complete your manoeuvre.
Simply put, won’t go out without it now.
I have ~15 rides and 400 miles on Varia. It’s like having a buddy sitting behind you and all he does is watch and warn of approaching vehicles. Will never leave home without it. Love it! ❤
I don't ride without it now, I ride lots of country Australian roads being passed at between 80 and 100kmph. I also have a small mirror to check as the car passes. Gives me some peace of mind and makes the ride less stressful. Agree 100% still need a shoulder check when turning and it does wake you up on quieter narrower roads and let's you plan an escape route. When mine doesn't work any more I'll get another one.
I am with you, this is a great device and save me a shock a few times when out on the open road. Especially, when windy and you do not hear a car coming, which can give quite a shock when they pass at speed and you are not expecting it !
Looks a great bit of kit maybe get one of these. Thanks for the great review 👍👍
It is very very good Dave, but not in the way I first thought.
As other have said, works with my Wahoo Elemnt Roam 2. I really find it more useful on rural roads. Last week we were out riding a quiet, narrow and pot holed road. You might see a car in either direction once every 3 or 4 rides along it. Varia let me know car coming up fast from behind, and even more important there was another car right behind it. Which you would not pick up looking back, mirror or by sound until too late.
Very good review. I have heard the mounting is a challenge, even with a small tool bag under the saddle.
Agree - had one for a year and do not ride with out it. Its also great for detecting faster cyclists approaching from behind. The ability to display multiple incoming vehicles helps avoid swinging out too early after the first car has passed. To avoid the rear rack bag issue I've printed a seat mount that positions it above the bag ok for a clear stable view. I rotate it 180 degrees (inverted) so it sits higher above the bag. Battery life is fine for all day rides. I recharge it each evening when bike packing.
Great review and you make a good point about its usefulness. I have used one for years and I do think it is worth it but in the city i ignore it. When i hear it go off I then begin keeping an eye on the mirror in case I need to bail or make adjustments.
Like some others here, I use mine with my Wahoo Elemnt Roam where the display integration is great. I see there was a Wahoo update recently so you can have the display on the right, which is more natural for us driving/riding on the left. I do like the fact that it picks up other bikes, a handy early warning, before the over the shoulder glance when passing other cyclists. It's good too that the colour of the alert gives an idea of relative speed of approach.
Works great with Wahoo head units and has caught me by surprise when I’ve been alerted to multiple cars behind me on some occasions. The asymmetric flash pattern is my favourite and mirrors that of my other go to light, the Exposure Blaze.
Good to know about the Wahoo.
Great review. Your discussion of indervidual topics is bang on but may I add, & you did touch upon this, it enhances your resting mind enjoying the ride because it relieves you of the concern of something surprising you from behind. I use mine on dedicated bike trails & nolonger get surprised by athelets. 😊
Great point - thank you
Good review. I've used one for about 4 years now. Won't ride with out it on the road. Agreed it is most useful in the country side. Although, if a car is driving behind you at the same speed you are going, it will disappear from the screen. It will all the sudden reappear when over taking you. Although it was design not to show other cyclists behind you, I occasionally pick up other cyclist coming up from behind.
I have a Varia 510 and it’s invaluable when riding around the country lanes. When I ride with my wife, she has the Varia on her bike, but we can both link to it and both get the traffic warnings on our head units. I can confirm it also works with a Wahoo Bolt, my son in law has the Bolt and pairs his Varia to it. In fact, on the Bolt, you get a little car image instead of the little dot.
I agree with the occasional car comment. Additionally, it really works, and it will notify you well before you can hear the car, depending on conditions like wind for instance.
Agree fully, after a few dicy experiences I decided to get one and now it’s my main piece of bike kit. I have it connected to my Hammerhead Karoo 2 and it works a dream - you can even easily switch off the beeping when you’re on safe ground.
Good to know, thanks.
Very interesting review and comments. Last week I was speaking to a policeman after an incident where the driver of an ancient campervan decided to overtake me on a bend only to discover three vehicles coming round it the other way. As we moaned together about campervans he voiced a criticism of cyclists who don't pull into passing places on single track roads. I did point out that if there is a headwind we sometimes won't hear a vehicle behind us, as you said. God only knows how you'd hear my car behind you - it's electric!
On single track roads, cyclists in a group of 3 or more are a pain. The first one is past the passing place when the last one pulls in. I can only imagine the fun folk must have on the NC500 when folk who don't normally drive single track roads or big vehicles try to steer massive RVs, look at scenery and pass cyclists.
I have only had mine a few days , I don't know why I waited so long ! no more getting a fright when something passes at a faster speed than they should without you hearing their approach , this thing alerts you well over 100 meters back on approaching traffic , love it .
Had mine couple of years now and it just gives me a nice sense of security helps with being aware of your road position especially if a vehicle is coming up behind you and a one is coming towards you at the same time and the rear vehicle recklessly decides to go through the narrowing gap, gives you that split second to nip in, I feel slightly less comfortable on the rare occasions I don’t use it.
Good review. In the country I will often ride slightly into the lane rather than in the very edge. It's easier, and usually better road condition. I like the idea that this will help me know when to move over to make space for the car behind.
Thanks David. Just one subtle but important clarification (and I mean this very nicely 😁). The Varia tells you when a car is behind, not when to move over - that's your decision based on road and traffic conditions. I only say this because I know there is a concern among some folk that a beep from the Garmin should automatically mean we have to 'get out of the way'.
Here in the United States, in Motorcycle Safety Foundation class, you’re taught to take the center of the lane, instinctively you’d think it’s not safe, however it’s to make you be seen better and to prevent the vehicle behind taking your lane, you risk of getting sideswipe especially on intersections where the vehicle is turning behind you and you’re just on the side. With a few exceptions of course like narrow lane where the vehicle needs more room to pass.
When riding two wheels do not become complacent especially when you think you’re safe, think of it that you’re a target, some drivers just don’t like people on two wheels.
I have the same radar, paired to my phone which is mounted on the handlebars using a quad lock. My normal riding is down narrow county roads, so I tend to be riding somewhere near the middle of the road. The additional notice I get of a car coming up behind me is useful. It means I can plan ahead to give them room to pass.
I like how it also varies the light pattern when a car is detected. I feel like this may help to grab the attention of a driver.
I missed this at first but when I realised it was happening I came to the same conclusion.
This is genius. I had no idea this existed. Thanks for reviewing it 👍🖖
There's a newer version now Joe with a safety camera built-in czcams.com/video/GBTH1DikxIE/video.html
@@alwaysanotheradventure Thanks so much I will check it out tonight!
Accurate assessment Simon. Cons: picks up other cyclists as cars, battery burn on head unit, not a fan of garmin rubber bands.
Pros: wouldn’t ride without it. Audible signal is loud enough to hear through wind noise. Bought a better, fixed mount to eliminate bands.
I bought a replacement Garmin type mount but it also uses bands - fiddly things.
Helps me as deaf & gives heads up of a vehicle behind you.
I think the Varia is the best but of kit ever for my bikes. Your comments are exactly the same as mine. I use a small helmet mirror and just take a quick glance at it to make sure the car is giving me some room when the Varia tone goes off. Love the less busy country back roads - and you are precisely right about them. A car or truck can sneak up on your very quickly there and those drivers may not expect to see a cyclist there... and may therefore not see you in time.
Cyclists get hit and seriously injured or killed all the time. Quite simply, the Varia can help save your life.
Bought mine about 6 weeks ago and cycle quite rural roads mainly.
I find it gives me eyes in the back of my head and, paradoxically, is most useful when it's not reporting anything as then I know that behind me is clear.
On club rides the alert tones were annoying other riders especially on busier roads. Switching to single tone or silent makes it less useful.
Cycling is obviously expensive and it can be tempting to spend the money instead on new wheels, new cycling clothes, shoes or other upgrades. However I do think the varia is relatively inexpensive when you compare it with the cost of an accident leading to time off work, off the bike or worse. The light itself is pretty good too.
I love my Varia and wouldn’t ride without it. Just a 10 second warning of an approaching vehicle can be a great help.
Just ordered one for a deal. Looking forward to test it!
Just got mine today. Can't wait to try it out. Cheers
I tested it now on 2 rides and on climbs and roads in the country-side it is very handy indeed!
@@elchram I am glad you are liking it..cheers!! I got mine yesterday and did a maiden ride today! Exceeded all my expectations. In a city, I had to mute the sounds but having the warning was awesome. I tested it on country roads and I regret not having it earlier. Accuracy is mind-blowing. One of my best bike tech purchases of all time.
This perspective makes sense.
I find it very helpful. Especially on the road bike, when you are riding fast and a lot of noise was produced by the wind.
I had only one "crazy" situation. At the end of a 100km roadtrip, the sun was down. Everytime a car was passing me, the screen illumination of my old Edge1000 was switched a couple of seconds on. I was afraid, it will ruine the last percentages charge of the old Li-Ion batteries inside, before I finish my route recording. ⌛ I prayed that there won't pop up more cars behind me. 🙏 But edge's power lasted until I reached my home safe.😉
100% agree with your conclusion. I have both a Varia and a small Cateye bike mirror. Would never ride with out them.
Agree with everything you say. I have mine paired to a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt and it works perfectly (paired in seconds as well). I have a hearing problem in one ear that makes it really difficult to work out where sound is coming from and the Varia gives me a lot more confidence when out on quieter roads. The drawback with quieter roads is that traffic moves faster so it can appear very quickly between backward glances. I'm sure like any device, it's not infallible but then, neither is looking behind or listening either. There will always be people who 'don't see the need', etc. - that's fine, just don't buy one then. I'm very happy with mine.
Addendum. Just completed the John Muir Way and used this on all the road and shared path sections. I'd never want to be without it now. I'm amazed how well it works and seems to pick things up across a huge width. This means it does flag up cars on the road, even when you're on a separate but parallel cycle route which is handy if, like me, you drop onto the carriageway now and then for a change of surface. My only real scare was a sudden red and a dot that moved so fast I'd never have avoided it - that was caused by a train running parallel to the cycleway!
Thank you
I share the same impresion. If mine would break - I would buy another. The benefit is that I can ride hard in the midle of the lane and move out of thr way when a car comes. I love varia and I was impressed that is doesn't give "false" negatives.
I won’t ride without it now on roads. It signals to car drivers and I see a better overtaking behaviour from them. I’ve now bought a second one for my son. Battery life is good if set to flashing mode. I’ve got 9 hours of light and radar
Have been using this for a couple of years wth Wahoo Elemnt head unit which I think has a better display interface. Works well in groups as well even if on the front of the bunch
Just bought garmin varia....its an awesome addition to my garmin bike computer and sensors. At least it gives warning about any vehicles approaching me
Totally agree!
I never leave home without my radar, It's not a replacement for checking blind spots but it's a great safety feature. When it detects a fast-approaching vehicle, one can decide to reposition yourself on the road.
Mine comes today and here in Germany from village to village it’s a must car drivers think still the autoBahn thumbs up 👍🏻
Do you have to switch off the flashing light in Germany?
@@alwaysanotheradventure Not really so far I hear cops don’t bother you but if they wanted they could as it’s illegal do ride with it flashing.
Stay safe!
Had mine for months. Invaluable bit of kit. Highlighted yesterday. Middle of nowhere. No sound. Bit of a headwind. Riding side by side on a single lane. It flashed up saying a vehicle approaching. Motorbike doing 70mph. If I hadn’t had an alert, his speed and closeness I may have came off, but instead I tucked in and issue averted.
They do get annoying when commuting or on busy roads though. 😂
I love this light/radar. I ride in Sydney suburbia and use light traffic areas. The radar usually alerts me before I hear any vehicle/s behind me and I have time to take any necessary actions. Great product!
Would you want it with a built in camera? Testing that one now
@@alwaysanotheradventure it’s only been recently released here in Australia with the camera and it’s price is $700 AU. What price do you pay on one’s safety or can make an aggressive driver accountable. Yes I would buy it.
@@vicsophios5892 Here it's double the price of the version you have. I like the idea of the rear camera, and having both in one package should seem ideal, but having ridden with it there are a few shortcomings. I'm not sure whether I'd go for it or the Varia like yours plus a separate camera like the Cyclic Fly.
@@alwaysanotheradventure I’m sure there will be a headlight with a camera from Garmin soon
On many packs and saddle bags you can use their loop and fasten tightly the standard 1/4 turn stem top / bar mount that comes with most Garmin units. Also the red bar indicates the object is approaching rapidly whereas no red means it is a similar speed, a sort of threat guesstimate!
Hi Peter - I tried and failed to fasten the Garmin mount to my bikepacking pack, but agreed, many pack designs would probably work. I realise the side-bars are meant to be different colours, but frankly I can't tell them apart! The red and orange look almost identical.
I’ve used a Varia for years and agree with what is said in the video. It’s pretty useless in the city but it’s what I consider an important safety item on country roads, especially if it is windy day. With knowledge of an approaching vehicle I make sure I stay on the road shoulder. Nevertheless, always look before turns or changing track. The audio alert tone is a bit weak so I couple my iPhone for increased volume.
On my ‘too get’ list, especially with more electric cars on the road. Nice one
Been using mine for about a year now and wouldn’t be without it. It’s a great bit of kit. You didn’t mention the colour changes when a vehicle is detected, which indicate the approaching speed. A fast approach highlights in red and changes colour if the approaching vehicles speed reduces, letting you know that the vehicle has spotted you and is slowing down. Also, when a vehicle is detected, the light flashes at a higher speed, helping to make you more visible.
Frankly I can't see much difference in the colours - the orange and red seem interchangeable. Or perhaps on our roads I never have a slow car behind me!
@@alwaysanotheradventure lol, possibly. I certainly notice the difference. I’ve watched the red (fast approach), change to orange (slower approach) when vehicles are coming up behind. It’s an extra visual indicator that the vehicle behind is slowing down which, hopefully means the driver has spotted me. 👍
With the push to electric vehicles these are practically silent. This where the Varia comes into it's own. I agree, no use in a city but when your out in the countryside it's great.
The EVs that have passed me here make quite a lot of road nose, so I do hear them. But in a head wind it's hard to hear any vehicle. In town when the EV is slower than I'm sure you're right.
I need one of these. Its a little unnerving when you dont hear a car coming up and it surprises you and blows by you.
I ride narrow rural roads with perhaps 5 to 10 cars per hour and over the years I've had to "hit the ditch" twice to avoid head on collisions with distracted drivers. I worry about the unseen distracted drivers coming from behind. Generally I can spot vehicles in the mirror and/or hear them in time to get over as much as possible and watch to ensure they are giving me adequate clearance, but I still get surprised on occasion. The Varia has eliminated these surprises and gives me enough warning to verify they are getting over enough for a safe pass and prepare for an emergency exit if they don't. I use it with a Wahoo Element Bolt v2, the only short coming is the Bolt supports the radar only, it doesn't support remote control of the light's function. I'd feel very exposed riding without it.
I live in rural West Virginia and wouldn’t want too ride without my Varia, in high traffic areas not so much 🤠🤠🤠
I can well imagine why its more useful on rural roads than the city and ive never used one 🙂
What size Gravel (I think) and brand handle-bars are you using in this you-tube video. Recently purchased 46-inch cow bell but think need something larger (that might be similar to flat bars that reduce neck pain for me).
These are 44mm Kitchen Sink bars by Redshift Sports. I’m just back from a hard 10 days in the alps are these were superb. I explain why in this video - and I’m not saying good things because I got the bars free. They really are excellent.
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I wouldn't live with out mine they are great and it saves you from keep on looking back to see what's behind you.
Your comment about meeting eyes is one I find critical, if I pass a car at any junction and we have not had eyes on recognition I become super defensive because anything else will be too late. I not sure about the vario yet, but I imagine they could be good abroad where everything is a bit more uncertain both in terms of driver habits and your ability to understand foreign road signs and junctions which I have found challenging in some places.
I used it in France and the Uk, towns and quiet roads, and was impressed all of the time. I’ve gone from skeptical to convinced, although not sure about the camera version I’m currently testing.
As for eye contact - it’s important whenever you can do it, bike or car. At worst you see where the other driver is looking and that can be valuable information.
Looks useful for those on modern bikes with the fashionable 1/4 mile of exposed seat post, there's about 1 1/2" on my 3 speed roadster, no way it'll fit.
Like a lot of people have already said I wouldn't leave home without it. The big thing for me is on country roads me and my ride buddy can comfortably ride 2 abreast until the radar picks up a car and we can drop back into single file giving everyone involved the safest option of an overtake and more times than not we always get a thumbs up or a wave from the passing motorists. What's not to love about this system.
The new one with camera is pretty good too!
I ride with mine and like when it tells how many cars as 1 big diesel engine noise can hide another one just behind…
It s even better with kids. i fit it on the tag along so that I get the info from the attached kid bike.
Only thing I wish it did is to work in walk mode on fenix watch; if it did, i could fit it on back bag and walk safely in the dark
Works well with Wahoo elemnt bolt Wouldn't ride without it now, pricey but worth the investment imo Mine doesn't pick up other cyclists behind me (👍) just motor vehicles
For bike packing I use tailfin aero pack with a light mount bracket which attaches rigidly to the pack. Best solution I’ve seen.
I’ve never tried a Tailfin but they look excellent and I see how they’d work well with a light like this.
Now after we got this satisfying solution, the new radar from garmin that includes a dashcam has a new mount and is not backwards compatible :(
I am using the aftermarket mount for the RTL515 that screws onto the tailfin light mimic mount since I lost the RTL510 once with the stock mount.
@@lorsch. My review copy hasn't arrived yet but I believe the new Varia with Camera has significantly shorted battery life. So the RTL515 could still be preferable for some situations.
@@alwaysanotheradventure on the upside, I heard it can be charged while in use, maybe also something you could have a look at if you review it
Other benefits to getting one of these (if you were on the fence like I was):
1. Electric cars. Becoming more common and some are totally silent other than tire noise which can easily be missed on a windy day.
2. Earphones. Really helps with road awareness if you're listening to music and are likely to miss the sound of approaching cars.
And you can have the radar beep through the earphones ontop of whatever you’re listening to
I am looking to get one when I have the money. As for not doing anything with the information - think about dodging the pothole in front of you; warning that there is something behind you would help the decision to avoid it to the right (Further into the road) or left.
Did you find that using the Varia impacts on the battery life of your head unit ? My Edge Explore is great but it’s battery life isn’t as good as I’d like (I like to carry a USB battery pack on long days out)
Yes, but I 'manage' both. I turn the Varia off when not needed on cycleways and in busy traffic. On a day-long ride I'll drop the ageing Garmin 1030 into Battery Save mode. Touring I carry a battery pack and long enough cable for the Garmin but haven't needed to use it riding.
I have the Varia (I got the non camera little pod one) and I can’t say I have same issue as you with stationary objects triggering it. Does it happen? Yes but not so much that it’s a problem, like 1 or 2 cars parked on road I fly by it sometimes half alerts me then realizes and shuts up.
Also not sure true for camera varia’s but the little pod one I got has a USB-C port and can plug it in and leave it on charge, very very handy if you use it with an e-bike means shouldn’t ever run out of power on the radar. I do wish they give us a slider where can pick like quiet back roads up to dense urban. It would change how it alerts and what it alerts to. That would probably further increase accuracy across the board.
Slider sounds a good idea.
3:53 motorcyclists know to never rely on eye contact, drivers often dont register non-car shapes in their head
Not related to the Varia but could you share your thoughts on the rear-view mirror on you handlebar? I have been looking for a suitable one for my road bike for some time, mixed feedback (from very good and useful to wobbly, you only see your knees etc).
I'm now kicking myself I didn't include that in this video. I was highly sceptical but Liz wanted one for her bike. I borrowed that bike one day and thought, "hey this is good". I now have them on all my bikes (I didn't take one to France though) except the Vielo because off-road I suspect it could get damaged. It's rock steady, doesn't wobble at all, and if you accidentally knock it off it just pops back on. I'm seriously impressed, although I suspect some 'roadies' would sneer 😁 This is the one I have: amzn.to/3871SUV
@@alwaysanotheradventure Another vote here for the CatEye BM-45, I’ve got one installed on both my bikes and I feel so much safer with it fitted, a thoroughly excellent bit of kit 👍
A bit pricy but I really like my Selle Italia Eyelink mirror that sits on top of the hood of my drop bar. I use it with my Varia 515. When on a rural road and the Varia pings I can take a quick look in the mirror to see if the "car" behind me is actually a car (or a huge tractor) or another biker coming up faster than I am riding. I also like the Varia because it can provide some assurance that the road behind me is clear if I am going to make a righthand turn (in the US).
This will become part of my new ride; no matter how vigilant, we all get surprised on long rides. And ounce of prevention and all that...I would definitely NOT use it in the city, especially mine!
The head turn works great for me, if a car is hovering behind me not knowing if I have seen it I turn my head towards it for a hot second and they pass 90% of the time.
You missed how bright it is simply as a smart tail light. Also it indicates amber for "safe" approach speeds and red for "dangerous" approach speeds which enables way more informed avoidance decisions.
True, but I don't find that particularly useful Neil. I don't look at the unit when I hear the beep - it prompts me to look in my mirror where make an accurate assessment. How I respond to a car is quite different to a log lorry on a single track road.
My thoughts pretty much align with yours. Whilst it's true that you can't change any car drivers behaviour, for me the main value is that it alerts me to to control my own. To make sure I keep a straight line - not drift into the road out of complacency or make a sudden move to ride around a pot hole on the right-hand side - unaware there's an unsuspecting moterist right behind me, for instance. (I have it paired to a Wahoo bolt). I say you can't change a car drivers behaviour, but there again, like some others have noted, I definitely have a feeling that it does affect many drivers. I think perhaps they may believe it's a camera recording them (the increased flashing as they get close).
Good point about the camera. I wondered that too, especially when the flash pattern changes.
Which makes me ask if Garmin could come out with a Varia RTL unit with a camera. Garmin makes tiny dashcams. Yes, battery life would be an issue but the camera would only have to record when the radar sees approaching traffic. I’ve used my Varia with an Elemnt Bolt for three years and I’d buy a camera Varia as soon as it’s available.
@@RetroracerDB1 Good point!
Newer cars, especially EV's are much quieter on the road and you often don't hear them until they are passing you. They may give you plenty of room, but it can still be a bit of a surprise when you are tuned into the road ahead. If you feel the road is too narrow then the radar offers an opportunity to shift over a bit. To my mind, if it saves just one side swipe, its paid for itself already. Agree city use is a bit cumbersome. 😎
Just bought one so no practical experience but the reasons is my hearing is not as good as it was and electric vechicals can be dangerously quiet. Hopefully it helps
Hi Jim - you can have the Varia app open on your phone and volume turned up so you get two warnings. For extra volume you can use a headphone too.
Can anyone comment on the quality or the brightness of the flash during daylight riding? Is it as effective as a Bontrager Flare R or a Cygolite Hypershot ? Thanks
This could be good if it came with dedicated display to show all approaching objects behind you in a 2d grid. Otherwise, it's a nice toy, but could improve drastically its usability.
Each vehicle shows as a separate dot, provided the first one isn't a massive truck it can't see around. The comments on here and the review of the RCT 715 (the radar plus camera) show lots of users who regard it as much more than a toy.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Ok, does it have collision warning ie. that a car is on a collision course like veering off center or that it will ride into you? Are there more expensive models with such feature?
I guess it will be more useful in the future when everyone shifts to EVs or the likes of it, since we can barely hear them approaching us!
What's the phone app that seems to offer more detail than Garmin's head unit?
Feels like a quiz question! I usually navigate with Komoot but on my phone I also have Google, Ride with GPS, Ordnance Survey and Gaia GPS. One should work!
Radar. Just make sure you seal up the power socket on rides as it does too easily get a bit of corrosion. So the rubber bung needs a clean after every single ride. I love my radar my mum ( 76 yrs old ) has one too. If I lost it I would Buy another immediately.
It wakes you up and I head check if I get a beep every single time. If a fast car is coming maybe I can jump in a hedge if need be.
Good point about that rubber bung
@@alwaysanotheradventure the bung is garbage. It should be way better for the cost of the device. Usb C would be better. Having mine slightly not fully home caused a touch of copper corrosion on the prongs. So it’s going to die. Ensure it’s cleaned and dry after every single ride regardless of the battery life left. “Signed bloody annoyed”
Better mounted on your helmet🤔 not sure I’ll get one, maybe if price comes down.
I get the idea but I suspect a head would move around too much. The moment you looked down to see the alert, the radar would point up and the cone would be looking at the sky. Might be worth trying though...
@@alwaysanotheradventure good point well made👍🏽 Does require a bit more R and D by Garmin for suitable attachment for all types of riding🤞🏽
wheather you have a varia or just ears making eye contact at any time should be a big fat yes.we teach year 6 children this all the time on bikeability courses,
Not easy to do each when they're hurtling up to you at over 60mph in a pack of ten
@@alwaysanotheradventure if they are in packs of ten its probably not a country lane your on a duel carrageway.ha ha !
@@kevinsaward2005 Nearest dual carriageway is a long way from me. They tend to be pulses of ferry traffic which come in bursts.
@@alwaysanotheradventure too bloody busy for my liking,went on a 25 mile ride yesterday and only saw 1 car the whole trip.come to north norfolk.
What does it connect to ? Or is it a stand alone system
To answer your question - the Radar is a 'stand alone' but you need a means to hear the alert. It can be audible/visual with whatever head unit you have (Garmin, Wahoo, Bryton whatever) or phone. Or as I tend to do, connect it to my phone, turn up the volume, then tuck the phone in a chest pocket where I'm sure to hear the 'Beep beep beep' alert.
Garmin have updated their unit to one which now has a camera: czcams.com/video/GBTH1DikxIE/video.html
Alternatively, Bryton has produced a very good radar which is quite a lot cheaper czcams.com/video/65IkTiC19cQ/video.html
How about battery life? I think it's rather short, too short for a daylong ride, but couldn't find out whether one could extend it with a small powerbank. Otherwise I believe it's a good idea to bring you back into here and now when needed.
I’ve heard that said but it has not been an issue for me, although I do ‘manage’ it Peter.
I turn it off on cycleways and when the traffic is really busy.
The battery issue is not only the Varia it’s my Garmin 1030, because the sleets drain its battery. On longer rides, of which I’ve done a few recently with the Varia (like those in France) this has worked fine for me. Same with the recent ones on the south coast (videos to come).
Battery life hasn’t been an issue for me, either
Mine lasts for around a 6-7hr on a ride with very light traffic and flashing light mode. Never tried to power it of an external battery. Will have to try it.
I use the "day flash" setting and I get a low battery warning after 12 hrs, but it continues to operate for at least another hour after the warning.
Normally bad drivers would yell at you to get off the road. Now they don't have to because the Varia does that for them.
😂 I don’t consider it yelling
I sure would like to ride with you sometime
I’m doing Ride to the Sun this year if you fancy a ride from Carlisle to Edinburgh through the night. Great event!
@@alwaysanotheradventure
Your in Scotland?
@@david4903 Yes - west highlands near Fort William
It’s additional information I’d rather have
Me too. How about the camera version? It’s better than initial reviews suggest:
czcams.com/video/GBTH1DikxIE/video.html
Wouldn't leave without it...
What 360 camera did you use?
It's the Insta360 One X2. I very stupidly lost my original X one after the Caledonia Way. I was unpacking in a car park and drove off with it in a bag on the ground. Needless to say I never got it back.
@@alwaysanotheradventure one x2 is way better. Sorry for the One X you lost. Love ❤️
I never go on a ride without the Varia.
New one with a camera out today.
i think these are more useful on country lanes, you are far less aware of cars on quiet roads (at least I am)
If you have this traffic problem in Scotland, what can I say here in Romania? 😂I buying two! 😊
I use a bar end mirror and Varia. I won’t ride without them both.
1:10. "When a vehicle approaches the rear the head unit beeps quite loudly". Not really. The beeps are in high-frequency and older people, due to the common high-frequency hearing loss, cannot hear them, especially when there is the noice of cars coming from the other direction.
Fair point. I'm 63 and I hear them fine, but then my hearing isn't bad (wife says it's dreadful but that's another matter). The good work-around that is to connect your phone and have it in a chest pocket - its volume can really be cranked up. And if that isn't loud enough, you can connect the phone to a headphone (only ever use one and no music) and the beep will be right in your ear.
You either like it or you haven't used it.
With modern cars so quite you don't hear then until 5 yards behind you, and now the government wants all cars electric, you have no chance of hearing them before they run you off the road .I guess I will have to get one.
And then they'll be 'beacons' so driverless tech will recognise we're cycles...