Sabaton - WE MUST LEARN FROM WAR
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- We met up with Sabaton in Brussels, Belgium to tour the Royal Museum of the Armed Forces and Military History. The War to End All Wars comes out March 4: media.nuclearblast.de/shoplan...
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“Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
Like most of the comments who are saying "this is bad timing."
They don't like learning from mistakes.
"And those that do are doomed to witness those that did not."
You guys have learned nothing of history. And people who often utter this slogan have a pretty poor understanding themselves.
@@zenster1097 Found the gatekeeper
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You don't need to be a historian to understand that not learning from the past eventually leads to you fucking up the future, it's not rocket science.
When I first saw them, I thought they're just your usual macho, aggresive metal band and not a bunch of awesome history enthusiast. Much love for them, can't wait for their new album🤘
Couple days until it's here
Can't wait, I've ordered way more versions than I could afford
@@A_Ducky I can't afford to buy albums so I take the cheap route and wait for them to be on CZcams lol
Most metal heads are deep and interesting people. Cheers friends 🍻
When I first saw them I got the impression of dungeon n dragon basement dwellers. I think steel commander was first song n I had no idea it was based on history. Now I'm a fan and Ive watched about all of their history episodes as well.
Been Sabaton fan for over 10 years. I'm really proud to say that these guys were the reason why I started to read about history, war history to be specific. We must never forget our dark and bloody past and those who gave their lives.
In my case, my friend said to me "you are history freak, especially 1st and 2nd world war, I know metal band, which you may like"...and I became Sabaton fan after listen to Primo victoria
@@barborablaskova you have an awesome friend!
When the Red Baron died the allies recovered his body and buried him with full military honors!!! To do that for the enemy is rare
Especially later on during WW2 on the Eastern Front where the war became a war of annihilation. Was a KV tank that held off a large German force...the crew were eventually killed but out of accomplishment were treated with honor.
And not just tell once
Actually, that was the norm in the beginning of WW2 as well. Germany even did so to downed British bomber crews. I think UK did the same.
Sabaton has a song called ”Smoking Snakes” about 3 brazillian soldiers on the Italian front during WW2 who were up against a significantly larger German force, when they died they were buried with respect and were given the name “Drei Barzillanischen Helden” in english three brazillian heroes
It wasn't rare for the navies to do so. The law of the sea as they called it, treating your enemies with respect, because the real enemy is the sea itself. It was only after the Laconia incident that it stopped being a widespread practice to save everyone of a ship they sunk, and even then some commanders can't help their nature and saved the crews anyway, against orders.
I think the funniest story about Wojtek the bear (mostly he helped haul cannon and shells up Italian mountains) was his retirement in a British zoo after the war. One of his former handlers went to visit and jumped the fence without hesitation and was recognized, resulting in them wrestling while zookeepers and visitors freaked out.
Edinburgh zoo! there is also a statue of him in a town called Duns where his regiment were based for a while post war, i live in the area and there are still a few elderly people who remember the polish soldiers and their bear... another thing to look up from the same era is "the great polish map of scotland"
History nerds + guitars and drums = Sabaton
Or Iron Maiden
@@michaelschneider9141 Well, at least Iron Maiden are not " nerds" but educated and diligent History tellers and way more musically original and talented musicians.
Overdoing the war theme + guitars are drums = Sabaton
Metal + History = Sabaton
😍
Holy shit I just realized. The release date, march 4th, is a pun on "march forth". Or maybe i'm reading to much into it
No i want you to be right because that is actually really good.
Knowing them it is absolutely 100% not a coincidence, they absolutely planned it.
@@bonogiamboni4830 exactly. If that was an accident, I'd be more surprised than if it wasn't.
Since they and their label are European, I doubt it
@@johntaylor4787 well yeah but they still know english and are planning a global release. You'd be right if this was something exclusively sung in swedish but all the songs are in english.
I cant wait for the new album. Sabaton if you see this NEVER apologize for your music. Your music is awesome and so is this video.
Ture if they didn't make music about war who isn't to say another band would do it in a worse way
One of the reasons to love Sabaton: you got to admire their dedication to preserve history and them just simply telling historical stories.
"I'm Jewish and I find these Nazi ornaments fascinating". I want to commend the presenter for being incredibly informed and incredibly well composed through all this. Understanding that the songs are history lessons and not "pro war" or "Neo Nazi", while helping the audience to embrace learning as well. Sabaton is no stranger to the criticism either, and they know how to politely say that detractors are misinformed or just angry/sad. 11 out of 10 stars all around
I had a good chuckle at it myself
Yes. I do not understand why people can't get that Sabaton takes an objective view on war.
Joakim is Jewish?
@@Seriona1 Its the same as a jewish writer say'd with Eichman and evil its in mondane that people accept it. "He was just filling in forms to better his career" she had a allot of shit from that. While its true allot of psychology research is done on it.
They did a test on people with asking questions to someone and then a test subject would get a shock if they get it wrong not realizing they them self where test subjects. Some fascinating outcomes came from it.
The shit people doing knowingly on them self. When they can give responsability a supervisor it gets even uglier.
@@markomilojevic8122 The presenter is. See around 18:00.
The way Joakim broke out laughing at the Christmas decorations was perfect 🤣
I have honestly always thought of Sabaton's songs as telling the human side of the story. Regardless of which "Side" a person was fighting on, they all felt fears, doubts and worries. Keep up the great work guys :)
Sabaton honors the brave men, women, and children who fought for causes bigger than themselves, done in the most respectful way possible. Anyone who feels they are glorifying warfare aren't paying attention.
As a bit of a history nerd, a metal head and living close to a tank museum in the UK, I would love (and pay) to have a guided tour by Sabaton, I could probably listen to them talk about history for hours.
If its the tank museam I think it is....I would love to watch Sabaton go round it!!!!
@@ddlee84 It is indeed! I love that place!
@@danwimbleton You're talking about bovington?
@@trainboi777yall6 yup!
Sabaton is one of my favorite bands. They make my little nerd heart happy.
Never call yourself a nerd
as it is a derogatory term
to make intellectuals seem
unfounded and unworthy
of comanding the respect
that they desrve for being
enlightened and interesting.
My Grandfather, was from England and was in WWI. He was mustard gased and it basically took his life in the early 50s, but he raised five children who adored him..sadly he only met one of his many grandchildren, because of that damn mustard gas. Him and my Grandmother came the to Utah and became Mormons, as they were offered a home and a life there. Her family was from Sweden, she was born in the United States. He wrote journals from waiting to be shipped out and many words from being on the battlefield, including being in the trenches..I have those journals now and they are fun and incredible to read. I appreciate Sabaton writing many stories from that horrid war in this genre, that many younger and older people can learn from, for we must learn from war..including this damn war Ukraine is in now, with today's hitler. I learned about Y'all from The Christmas Truce song and at 64, I am becoming a metal fan through Sabaton and Nightwish. I hope one day to come to Europe and see them both in Concert in a big stadium setting with all the wonderful hoopla they do at their shows. thank you Sabaton for this new journey into my new journey into metal music..in the U.S. too.
PS, I loved your interview, Joakim with Elizabeth, it was enlightening and a fun time to watch and listen to, about you and your band.
So envious of the interviewer for having the opportunity to go through these incredible exhibits with Par and Joakim - one could learn more from these two musicians than from a history professor!
I love listening to Joakim and Pär talk about history almost as much as l love listening to their music! They are very intelligent and engaging.
sabaton is one of those bands that musically isnt amazing or complex but the songwriting and messaging is just so on point and inspiring. the passion they share with the world is just amazing
The music is more complex than most. Christmas Truce with its inverted carol of the bells and key changes… good stuff
Why are people saying this is a bad timing? They're a metal band that sings about war and this video is in a ww1 museum talking about their new album about ww1
It’s because of the “WWIII is about to start” thing
@@ChaoticPsychoR Even when it's not, that's all hysteria.
As he said "War is a horrible thing, and we should learn from it."
@@nj86
And if they touched upon the current events, it would be "oh look how they profit from someone else's misfortune". Same people who used to say Sabaton glorifies war.
@@nj86
Or children. They might think no further than: "Oh my favorite band sings about past wars, battles and heroes. There's a war now! They should make a song immediately, how perfect!" 🤦🤦🤦
My grandfather was in the U.S. 143rd infantry regiment as they pushed through Italy in WWII. He survived the Battle of San Pietro (wounded), the first Battle of Monte Cassino (aka Rapido River, wounded) and was finally wounded a third time during the push to Rome.
He never talked about the war. And after researching his unit and the dates he was wounded, I know why. In the 12 months he was in Europe, he was wounded 3 times but he survived. Most of the boys and men he served with did not.
We MUST learn from past wars, so hopefully there is a future without wars.
I'm turning 26 this year. almost half my life I have watched movies / series and documentaries about the First and Second World War.
But that dogs were a part of firing missiles, that's also new to me.
Thank you Sabaton, you also teach knowledgeable people more history!
Na I think it was machine guns or small mortars. Didn’t have missiles back then. At least not used heavily outside of say China.
The history of War is literally about conflict, it is the history of ideologies that people actually did kill for. It is unsurprising that Sabaton's music, detailing historical events during the multitude of history's wars inspires controversy. The thing is you must understand history to understand why such bloodshed occurred and have some possibility of preventing the repeat of such horrors, like for example the "jam boy" - I'm British born and that is fucked up and should be never be forgotten or repeated. Sabaton promote exactly this understanding, Sabaton sing about war not to promote or glorify but to educate and understand. The why you do something is the key and Sabaton are on the right side of why.
I entirely agree with the stance the Joakhim and Pars are taking regarding their lyrics and aim of message. The part where they talk about Primo Victoria and someone wanting the words changed because it's a sensitive topic - here's the problem (and I know this may be what they are trying to hammer the point on): History is written by the victors, but as a result you see things through rose-tinted glasses. The old adage War is Hell doesn't nearly cut it, and I feel everyone needs to know what did happen before. Be it one, ten or a thousand years ago we have to remember so that things are not repeated.
I had no idea they had their own history channel. Incredible historians 🤘
*Nothing but ❤ for this amazing metal band.*
Say what you want about the man and the movement, but to be fair, Robert E. Lee was right:
"It is fortunate that war is so terrible, else we would fall in love with it"
So much history in 1 place. Glad sabaton got to go check everything out. Can't wait for the new album
This is honestly one of the most impressive museums I have ever been to. Great vid too.
Check Overloon in the Netherlands also great museum
@@Eelco86 "there is this cool thing in Belgium, really impressive"
Dutch people "Nah nah check *insert dutch thing* that's cool too"
Joke aside, i've gone to Overloon and that's indeed really great.
You can just see the passion for history from these three talking, I imagine most people would learn hell of a lot just from listening to the band casually talking about conflicts. The fact that they wrap these stories up in some incredible music just makes it better. I've been slightly addicted to their new song, Dreadnought since the song landed in my CZcams feed.
As odd as this may sound. I was taught about WW1 and WW2 but Sabaton is the reason why I remember them.
I like to think that Sabaton will be remembered a long time from now. I’ve known a few metalheads that look down on it, calling it tacky and lame. Is it cheesy? Sure, but in the best way possible. It’s super fun and entertaining.
Sabaton gives you strength and faith ... greetings from Poland
Can't wait for the new album on Friday!!🥳🎊
Yes it's great album. I wasn't disappointed
Why this dude living one of my dreams right now
My great grandfather and his brothers fought WW2 in different places and collected different artifacts like one of them is a German bandolier for extra ammo which was left behind in a bunker in Italy, another is a Japanese bayonet that he had collected from obviously a Japanese soldier. But the coolest was the fact that my Great Grandma was a spy for the US and she actually worked with the British and the French resistance quite frequently, and obviously sometimes she would have to take out German officers and she had taken an arm band from one of them.
As a german I really appreciate your great grandparents. Shit would have gotten even darker if it wasn't for people like them. Fuck fascists.
dear loudwire, please get Sabaton to do a history series on your channel, i think many would enjoy this and sabaton's war history knowledge is second to none. it would be like having your favorite band teaching history, never a dull lesson!
They have their own Sabaton History youtube channel with Indy from time ghost history
@@gearhead2255 oh i didnt know, cool thanks for letting me know
Just got my shipping notice for the new album 🤘
Side note; not sure how much longer Joakim will be able to keep his full mohawk lol
My great grandfather was d+1 and he went with patton through france, battle of the bulge and into germany ending up in Berlin at the end of the war. We found a unit poster taken 2 weeks before the shipped to england as part of overlord.
Im very new to the metal genre and very new to Sabaton but these guys, especially Joakim, have really hooked me.
Good time posting this. History should be remembered. Perhaps we can completely learn to ignore the propaganda and learn from our mistakes.
Love these guys. Very thoughtful musicians, eloquent and incredibly talented.
An Author once wrote about WW1 and said something to the effect of 'we rode in on horses, and rode out on tanks'
Germans in ww1: uses gas
Also germans in ww1: shotguns are now illegal
Such a great interview! That museum looks awesome! Glad you guys do what you do. It's great to get some education with our metal!
I could listen to these guys just talking about history for hours. So much knowledge, and so much enthusiasm to both teach and learn.
WE NEED sabaton HISTORY MUSEUM
one really cool thing about that museum, their MKIV and medium MKA "whippet" tanks were basically rolled in of the battlefield so never have been repainted. so they reflect the original color british tanks were painted at the time, albeit faded and darkened a bit over time.
the pigeons also served as the "canary in the coal mine" for the crew for carbon monoxide poising. which happened to crew with alarming regularity.
Their knowledge and love of history is so amazing. It's one of the things that first made me love them. Watching them talk about these things, it's so obvious how much they love this subject
This video is awesome! Learned more here from a metal band than I did in history class! Thank you Sabaton for being what you are!
15:30 wow as a German I am absolutely ashamed that we still have so many incompetent people in important positions
This episode was absolutely fantastic. Such good production quality and simply very interesting and entertaining to watch. I now just wanna visit that museum
This is why Sabaton is my favorite band.
2022 certainly has given us enough stuff for a new album.
Always loved history, and a history friend of mine recommended this band to me. Did not disappoint! Listened to the latest two albums back to back in my way to school.
The goosebumps I got when they walked into the massive planes/jets room!
I live in Belgium and I had no idea this museum existed, definitely on my to do list now!
“History doesn’t repeat, but it often rhymes”
This is amazing. Thanks loudwire!
what an awesome museum!!! and its unbelievably cool to have a digital walkthrough with sabaton talking about history! thanks guys!!!
I would love to have these guys escorting me through a tour of a military history museum. Their knowledge is incredible, and I am sure they would have plenty of fun anecdotes and cool facts to contribute, too! Rock on you crazy screaming Swedes!
Such intelligent guys - Love them both, love them all!
Fantastic video. Love to see more. Well done guys !!
Love that quote "Classical is just Metal without electricity." I also love how much of historians they are; would be so awesome to have a tour with them through this museum as my guide. So cool!
Manfred Von Richtofen was credited with 80 aerial combat victories in WWI.
Such an amazing band!
I thought they were just going to be a metal band, but they're really a very interesting band that sings about war. I've actually learned from them. I made myself watch a movie about the Christmas truce this afternoon because of their song. Thank you for waking me up. 😊
S A B A T O N!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSS
Never forget what happened in the past we have to learn from war
I love watching people nerd out.
Graham has the most interesting, coolest job in the world. Great interviewer, great video, thanks Loudwire.
I'd give almost anything to be able to tour a museum with these guys. Graham is so lucky!
This was awesome. I love history and metal so I'm a new fan!!! Thanks!!!
@Sabaton next time you're planning a tour leg through Canada give yourselves time to visit HMCS Haida in Hamilton, Ontario (Haida is the most decorated warship in Canadian naval history - Dday, Murmansk, arctic passage, Panama canal, Pacific War, Korean War, Trainbusters Club) and The Canadian War Museum in Ottawa is incredible.
Speaking of relatives who could have served in WWI or WWII, my grandmother on my mother's side brother would have served in combat in WWII, but he knew how to type and that kept him State-side in a administrative role if you know what I mean. I don't know what year he was born, but she was born in 1911, making her 30-ish during WWII. I just got word that he was in 20s during the war, so yeah, he was prime age for that sort of thing.
Joakím you keep surprising me with your knowledge...just wow!
Mannn i really want to go to this museum someday. It's so massive 🔥🔥🔥
As a Canadian, we were always told the Red Baron was shot down by a Canadian pilot, Roy Brown. Just looking that up now, seems it wasn’t that straight forward, as are most history stories…. Sounds like it was either Brown, an Australian machine gun battery, or a combination of both. What we do know for sure - it was not Snoopy!
Forty to fifty years after this war has end...
Sabaton will be there to make a song about it.
the best loudwire video ive seen
Joakim and guys. You're a great inspiration for me as an author, as a kind of fuel, making me write good war books, you're masters with tour lyrics. You're awesome, guys!
Thank you for sharing this
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!
I would love to go to that museum one day. Holy shit that looks incredible!
God Bless Sabaton
When talking about the romanticization of the Red Baron, I remembered that in the U.S, we have Red Baron pizza
This might be the best thing ever!
This was a real pleasure 💐
Fantastic episode.
❤ for Sabaton.
Imagine getting a personal museum tour by Joakim and Par
Excellent work on the album, gentlemen! I'll be rocking out learning all the lyrics all day!
A correction on the anecdote towards the end of the video: Vasa did get out of the harbor, but only managed to pass just beyond its threshold. She'd make a great story for a song, as a shining example of what you talked about with learning from history. Vasa was a beautiful ship, festooned with all the glory and gold that Sweden could deck her in, with a very specific reason.
Vasa was the first ship ever built with more than one gun deck. This literally doubled the broadside firepower over single-gun-deck ships of the line. But they were unproven, and it turned out Vasa's design was flawed because of her narrow beam and tall height; on top of this, the extra deck of guns added mass and should have helped the ship settle, but their placement higher in the ship was unaccounted for. These factors meant the ship could basically tip over in a light breeze.
They probably would have gotten a bit farther if they had closed the gun ports; the ship tipped far enough to let the sea in through them.
Plus there was some confusion due to the builders and the designers using different units. Some recent analysis shows that the ship is slightly asymmetrical, which of course didn't help with stability.
I simply love how Scandinavian people speak English. It always sounds like they are doing some comedy bit. 😄
Yes I believe that sabaton sings about controversial topics BUT content like that needs to be remembered and deserves its place in song and music. I respect sabaton for doing what needs to be done
Awesome episode!
I found this fascinating, my grandfather was a british soldier in world war I and also took part in the Spanish Civil War, he probably only abstained from world war II because he was in his mid forties by then and working in a munitions depot. From welsh miner to soldier, to munitions worker. He never spoke about his time as a soldier, we only discovered his military history after he had died, when my sister saw his name on a plaque.
Sirs, I thank you for making music with the full base of saying, " This happened, learn from it so WE do not repeat it " I have seen so many of the youth in America that might have only the most bottom tier learning and if they feel reason to google your songs will learn that which I say con NOT be allowed to be forgotten, we paid the price for those lessons once, if we have working IQ we will avoid that cost today, ( Inflation is an enemy that kills every time ) we have debts that will bankrupt us now, as it is. SABATON. PRIMO VICTORIA.
Need to plan a visit to this place, never knew it would be this extensive!
What an interesting video. I bet you would have to spend multiple days to go through and see everything in that museum. I never heard of Sabaton until one of their songs, The Last Stand, came up on my CZcams music cue list. After listening to a few more of their songs I thought what a great concept of putting military history to music.
Impressive knowledge about military history from the the music group Sabaton.