Civilization might collapse at any moment | Sheldon Solomon and Lex Fridman
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Tony Hawk is looking great.
LMAO
Lol 👌🤣 He left skateboarding and became an intellectual hippie
Bruh im ded
good burn.
Huh
Starting at 5:15 books mentioned:
John Gray - False Dawn: The Delusions of Global Capitalism - 2000
Hannah Arendt - The Origins of Totalitarianism - 1951
Edit: also mentioned…
Max Weber - Charisma and Disenchantment: The Vocation Lectures - shortly after WWI
Ernest Becker - The Denial of Death - 1973
Sheldon Solomon - The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life - 2015
Bonus on scapegoating…
René Girard - The Scapegoat - 1989
Thanks!
Terrence McKenna gave us this strategy:
“Launch your meme boldly and see if it will replicate-just like genes replicate, and infect, and move into the organism of society. And believing, as I do, that society operates on a kind of biological economy, then I believe these memes are the key to societal evolution. But unless the memes are released to play the game, there is no progress.”
olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2020/08/mission-impossible-no.html
Martin Van Creveld, "Rise and Decline of the State".
Joseph Tainter - "The Collapse of Complex Societies"
Niall Ferguson's article - "Empires with Expiration Dates"
Proffesor Carroll Quigley's paper - "General Crises in Civilizations"
Marion Butler's paper: "12,000 Years of Elliot Waves and What This Means for the 21st Century"
Similar books by Jared Diamond, Dmitri Orlov, Peter Turchin, Cal Thomas, et al.
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Try some Morris Berman.
He could bum ya' out too.
He speaks just like Ray Dalio but looks like old Tony Hawk
Yesss! Such perception.
According to Google, this guy is 10 years older than Tony Hawk, 52 and 62.
@@Di5TuRBeD He looks exactly like 10 years older Tony Hawk and talks like Ray Dalio
He looks like a cooler Tony Danza.
I think it's pathetic to define oneself by their job, specially in a time where so many bullshit jobs exists and we are forced to do them just to put a roof over our heads and feed our family.
Jeff Caplan easy. If you attach self-worth to external factors fate might see you stripped of them all to teach you humility against your will. Be virtuous. Do not be defined by your triumphs or losses, but by the battles you’ve fought.
A LuKe close enough, but I’d disagree and say intelligence is not a virtue. As David foster Wallace said: “attach self worth to intelligence and you will never be sufficient.”
💯
@@JeffCaplan313 You can pick, what do you want to achieve? A better world for all? Or a bigger paycheck for your boss?
@@JeffCaplan313 Job is what you do to get paid to subsist, not because you want it. Rarely does anything to improve the world, just corner the market for your patron, sell some bullshit to someone, or whatever. What we do to improve the world could be called work or activism or social work, but it's not a job if you don't get paid. The last bit of my previous comment was sarcasm in case you didn't notice.
Where were his teaching when I was in school. AMAZING guest Lex. - You have done it again!
the future's uncertain and the end is always near
Just had myself a beer, actually.
@@ProgrammingP123 Proost!
@@ProgrammingP123 I like your user name. Catchy.
Just gonna leave this cover here then... czcams.com/video/X7qEpz0B0vY/video.html
Nice comment section.
Death awareness. We live in a death denying culture. If we contemplated and meditated on the changing nature of life, including the inevitability of death then we individually and collectively as a world, may well benefit from that. Contemplating the teachings of Buddhism is a good place to start.
“We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.”
― Charles Bukowski
@Jackie O' nassa I always thought Jesus provides an escape fantasy and is only of delusional value.
Annnnnnnd what happens if I don’t?
Therein lies the problem
That’s why you have to be ready to die at all times, become as light as possible 💪🏼 that includes your to do list of things you wish you got to do. This 3D world is experienced by us in such a short speck of time that if you were to plot it on a graph we would barely, it all, be able to see it. And as time goes on, that speck becomes less and less significant. Whether or not there’s a purpose or afterlife, it’s probably not up to us. All we can live by is our truths, written in the DNA of a newborn baby..eat, sleep, love (replaced by sex later)
@Jackie O' nassa I am the Son of God. How can God create something that is not of Himself? The Commandments are pure science, misconstrued as morality, or moulded into laws with exemptions. Thou shalt not kill, meant exactly that. The more exemptions we create, the closer we are to genocide. Love of the Father (or the Mother, for that matter) is not Idol Worship that seeks special treatment. I don't believe in the Chosen One's, or that truth is the monopoly of one religion or belief system. Have a beautiful day.
One of the stupidest things that humanity has done has been to get away from its agrarian Roots. The failure to maintain legacies of animal husbandry and regional control over food supply coupled with building megacities whose populations are unsustainable when Walmart cannot function is the most shortsighted stupid shit ever.
Human beings are not ready for this modern rapid rate of technology advancement, i ask myself sometimes have us monkeys really evolved far enough to handle any of this shit all the time :/
People say the world is not overpopulated but, I was in a traffic jam on the highway in the middle of nowhere for no reason only because of too many truckers and too many cars. So, there's too many people but, we can't afford a third lane on the highway? We're definitely overpopulated without the means to fulfill our needs.
Well that’s dumb because what do you suggest? For people to stop having sex? We are living longer than ever before. Maybe nothing was ever supposed to be sustainable. We do the best with what we have are try to colonize other planets or we can cry about it like every negative person in these comments, but don’t blame people. We are just like you, we didn’t start this shitshow.
@@100mphFastball it's not our needs that we will eventually have a problem satisfying, but rather our out-of-control wants that will eventually destroy our ability to satisfy the needs of the amount of people on the planet.
@@herokillerinc true, but, we can't afford to install a 3rd lane on I40 for 600 miles. Therefore we can't meet our needs either. I17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff needs a 3rd lane and there's no way we can afford it. It's just a traffic jam. Our wants are ridiculous too. Might as well bring more children into the world.
Your clips and podcasts are so underated you really are the best i love these body and universe ones the most
The Dude’s best friend at college
Tell ya the truth Brandt I don’t remember much of it.
@@jakeasterisk2694 that’s a deep cut! Lol
@Jeffrey Lebowski So what do you doooo Lebowski.
Fer sure.
Humanity in its present state of global civilization do not have a clue for the most part just how close to the edge of collapse that it actually is according to Jared Diamond's long time in-depth work on the subject.
Great pod cast 👍🏼❤️ thank you 😎
Sheldon's line:"The world has become a petri dish of psychopathology" made me think of Anthony Bourdain's line "Hollandaise is a veritable petri-dish of biohazards". Interesting talk, if not cheerful.
9:31-9:40 I never imagined I would hear someone say "people who are old enough to remember 9/11," like it was a long time ago.
19 years is a pretty good chunk from a human life
Anyone younger than 20 doesn't remember (50 million americans).
Defund the government
Terrence McKenna gave us this strategy:
“Launch your meme boldly and see if it will replicate-just like genes replicate, and infect, and move into the organism of society. And believing, as I do, that society operates on a kind of biological economy, then I believe these memes are the key to societal evolution. But unless the memes are released to play the game, there is no progress.”
olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2020/08/mission-impossible-no.html
Getting the state as small as possible is the solution, that way you keep more of your money. Taxes should be for defense and for enforcing contracts
Yup.
Un conglomerate our media too.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”
Such a neat quote. Who does it come from?
Climate Disruption creates die-offs.
@@richdiana3663 Nuclear war makes stone age
who said it......?
@@abdulsameehpvt6668 I believe it’s a quote by the great philosopher Tipa
*Humility is facing the 'End of More'!*
Pinker never said we need to " keep making stuff and buying stuff" He's simply pointing out where we're at now comparatively. So many people that disagree with him probably haven't read a page of his books.
That said, it's ok to disagree but at least know your source of disagreement.
Pinker is a liar, the least violent time in history was before organized agriculture, not now lol.
Pinker's definition of violence-which seem to insist on physical injury as a minimum condition-is the giant flaw in all his thinking. I feel the need to unpack that statement...but I shouldn't have to because a century ago everyone would have understood what I meant. So I'm not going to.
@@climatedeniersbelonginasyl4191 prove it
Lex! You're the man, hope you keep creating these masterpieces. Art has a new form, and you're on the forefront!
great guest/conversation. thanks!
My 2 newfavs! Liked before i even listen; i never do, this time ill try, excited!!
Idk how but in Apr of 2018 I sent my bud a msg saying that the economy was going to fall soon but wasn't sure when. In Nov of 2019 I was talking to a friend and I was explaining to her how there were similarities in our modern day to the end of days in many collapsed societies
Lex Fridman continues to astound me with he huge understanding of widely varying topics such that he's able to have sensible in depth discussions with leaders in their fields.
This is brilliant.
These guys articulate what i am thinking.
Thank you guys.
Maybe the anger is raising, because we have killed too little of each other lately.
We are DEVO 👰
@Agent J I'm quite useless. Not sure if anyone is going to kill me though. Why bother?
@Agent J Sorry, I don't quite get what you are trying to say.
@Agent J Anyway... I'm quite sure every minute there born more useless, lazy and violent, than die.
@Agent J What? I think it was the case and always will be, until the population will start to go down. I'm doing my best, it just ain't much.
One thought of solace. There were exponentially more predictions of the end of the world throughout the history than actual collapses of the civilizations.
@baw0909 First of all, there were so many false alarms that when the real thing happened , many people did not realize it did happen. Second, you need to look at this philosophically. Almost everything that has a beginning, has an end. So far, only China was able to maintain its civilization uninterrupted from the very beginning.
@baw0909 I would love to continue this conversation with you offline. Find me on CZcams and Facebook
Great content per usual Lex
You have the greatest voice for public speaking. I listen to you every night. Your guest are wonderful. I am the age of your parents they have to be so happy about who you are. God Speed
you gotta do some crazy stuff to earn the title "Psycho Historian"
love his singing, goosebumps at 8:48, it really touched me.
Lex, fantastic work... thank you.
Great episode
There would be almost no chance of societal collapse if it was made financially worthwhile for people to SHARE the jobs we NEED people to do and work LESS.....there would be absolutely no such thing as a shortage of jobs and it would massively reduce human inequality...it would no longer be about working primarily FOR money but doing the work we NEED to have done.
So true.
There's just so much more to life than we can even begin to imagine, and so very much we've ignored and completely misunderstood. The way the world has become is really no surprise - something needed to happen to slow things down and hopefully bring the world to its senses. In his teachings, Nichiren Daishonin states that, although the lion is the king of beasts that cannot be beaten, a tiny parasite can enter its body and easily destroy it - it's a perfect example of the world right now, methinks. Perhaps after this Nature will gain a whole new kind of respect and the world will become a far better place - humankind will rise to a whole new level and there will be at least some peace for all the other creatures as well, especially where humans are concerned - we have no right to kill and steal the flesh of our fellow sentient beings, be it bats or livestock etc, nor to make money from doing it.
Instead of fame, power and wealth the main goals need to become compassion, and the protection and respect for all other living things, including each other - sincere gratitude for what we have and the chance we've all had to exist. I believe they are some of the main qualities that we all need to manifest in order to survive this dreadful predicament we've brought upon ourselves - and to avoid more of the same in the future, or even worse. We need to earn a chance to survive the effects from our past causes, by making new and far better causes now and in the future, and to stick to them. We humans will need to learn from all this to survive and carry on - we need to realise once and for all, that no matter what we choose to believe or not - Nature will always have the final say...
Something else that Nichiren wrote regarding when a situation arises that points to the end of our life and we want to survive it = just prayer may not be enough - we need to present a good enough positive reason for overcoming our situation and living on to be worthy of such. This is such an important time and opportunity for us to awaken others to the Mystic Law Itself - it's such a vital opportunity and I hope my bio Saved By The Buddha Within, published last year, which contains a dream that I had back in 1976 while in London, predicting this virus and pretty well everything else that's happening right now - will also help towards awakening others to the Mystic Law at this extremely crucial time. ( In case you are thinking I have made this post to promote my book - that's as futile as thinking I caused the virus to promote my book. More than anything else, my bio is full of incredible and valuable lessons that I've been fortunate enough to learn during my turbulent life, and which can help others, just as the same lessons have helped me).
For those who may think what I'm saying is BS etc, please think about how evil Japan was until it was brought to its knees in WW2 - it changed dramatically and became one of the most peaceful and respectful countries on Earth. No, it didn't become perfect, but it became so much better, mainly thanks to all the people who struggled in the aftermath to spread the Mystic Law, when freedom of religion was finally declared in Japan. Yes, today the Law has been taken advantage of, misused and twisted, I know, and many have been using It instead to manipulate others into adhering to self-idolisation and the idolisation of others etc, and now everything's becoming a mess again.
It's so vitally important right now to go back to the originally written teachings Niochiren left and put things right. The fertilizer for growth and improvement is all around us right now, and it's another extraordinary opportunity to spread the awareness of the Mystic Law Myoho-Renge-Kyo Itself - not just in Japan, but throughout the whole world. As I'm sure people you would know about, such as Boy George, Tina Turner and Orlando Bloom, just to name just a few, would wholeheartedly agree that chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo can bring forth inner wisdom, strength and good fortune that can allow us to change any poison into medicine. Peace to you all and thank you for reading this. My prayers are with you all - let's come together like never before and win this war.
PS: 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within' is an amazingly enlightening new bio that's available at Amazon books
Heartfelt and well said💜
Nicely said. Thank.you. As a mostly vegetarian , how would you keep an animal from eating another animal ? And what about so much deer now in the roads because there are not enough wolfs around? And what should people ear in the winters . I often think of this. Thanks for answering in advance.
Here here
With respect, the approach you advocate requires a populace of sane rational people capable willing to take responsibility for themselves and the well being of others, while we are dealing with a society that due to 100 years of intense propaganda and manipulation is utterly infantile and in a state of delusional psychosis. They are terrified by the prospect of change, and of taking responsibility in particular and desperate for asaviour, a leader that will put things right for them....this is how troglodytes like Trump can become elected.
Immature Personality Disorder:
chembiopublishers.com/CNNRIJ/CNNRIJ180013.pdf
Killing the Things We Love
www.filmsforaction.org/articles/killing-the-things-we-love/#_=_
You’re So Naive. This World Will Only Continue To Get Worse. Good luck
this ep was fantastic
Sheldon Solomon is one of my favorite guests on this show for sure
Finally s guy who seems to have actually read and understood John N. Gray !
Where's the anger going? Lol, just read through the comment sections on social media. The anger is right here, in America.
Anger lives everywhere my guy
I think he meant where does this anger lead us...
@@raypraise truth
lol yeah the anger is on reddit man its right there in comments from basement dwellers
@@grudge7719 Ohhh, dear sweet redit lol
Loved this dialogue.
Thank you both
Lex you are awesome
Every time when governments get too big and the masses depend on the government societies fall. Self sufficient lifestyles is the path to freedom and prosperity.
Self sufficient communities is what’s key, people who lift each other up and support each other
@@thomaskeane3099 Like the old hippy communes? They never worked.
MrRRW555 no like the millions of villages that existed before and were self sustaining
@@thomaskeane3099 Being old I remember a time when able bodied people were expected to take care of themselves. The community would come together through the churches to help the disabled, sick and elderly. Most people were kind and compassionate. There was minimal government assistance but most did their best not to use it any more than they had to.
@@gamercatsz5441 Can't never could do anything. Can't change the system? Change YOUR system. Can't think outside the box? Sorry, can't help you. The "system" programmed you for "jobs". You can reprogram yourself if you want to. Want is the key word here. Maybe you can find a need that's not being filled and fill it. One day at a time, one step at a time. Want beats can't anytime.
Hey lex's coffee mug is pretty badass! wonder where he got it from
I absolutely love your calm demeanor. Too cool for school. Keep searching for the answers. Peace and Love. Denny Solvie
Denny Solvie!!!
Can't wait you to interview Prof. Kevin MacDonald on Evolutionary Psychology.
more or less what Asimov wrote in the Second Foundation trilogy
Hari Sheldon said so!
Best podcast on the web!
Thank U Lex for talking about stuff like this in the manner that you do man. And big thanks for sharing your song about your grandfather or JRE. That song is amazing dude and im still amazed and pissed about how Joe kinda made it like it was no big deal. When i listen to that song i get chills to this day still and i have listened to it since the day that episode aired. Step on an overdrive pedal and that song is like a super heavy Metallica song. Huge respect,Lex U are a very important person and im glad that you are Rocking Out! NUF LOVE PEACE AND TOTAL RESPECT BROTHER.
This is how the Indigenous peoples must have felt...
Much more worse and helpless and ultimately powerless.
worse, and still to this day
So we should blame and punish people today who had nothing to do with it. Makes sense.
Funny....l was thinking that...ditto Zimbabwe...which is now a post-apocalyptic society...so many financial doomsday devices have been dropped over the economy.
@@discoverrealityclover9620 Trust me, Zimbabweans are looking at what's going on in America and are currently writing a new definition of "shithole country"...
he sings well 5:59 and at 6:19 Lmao!
Thanks so much
Social media made the anger to keep people watching and then watching the commercials .
Marxs comment “you are what you do” is a criticism on capitalism and the feeling in which the self is represented within the market
If you're going to be depressed, oppressed, and discriminated against be it with seven figures in the bank.
-Me
Or your actions are louder than words.
@@carpathianhermit7228 Some systems are more corruptible than others.
This dude shakes his head so much when he speaks I started getting dizzy
@Fuckya Lookin at why is he shaking?
His consiousness is dealing with and filtering such unbelievable and grand ideas, I imagine it's just a natural reaction to that.
@@atotheg7652 ya everyone has there ways. Just thought it was funny
Am reading Rise & Fall myself and agree totally with your analogy.
Just circling the drain, had to end sometime. And my favorite line "Eden's not burning it's BURNT"
Humans want to fight and suffer. It is in our Nature.
True, when Solomon said "if you have nothing" it is the greed and envy that kills it for the humans. Pray all you want the happy comfortable are going to get a beating from the "you are nothing" folks.
Two hairs from a chimp.
Buy land grow your own food! Protect your family! It’s coming!
Charismatic Leader part was spot on. Wow.
Thank you
So many great references. I have my reading to do!
I believe the reason we feel so content snuged up in our bed on a cold rainy evening is because we're subconsciously super grateful we're not outside in it like all the other animals. Which is obvious when I say it, but something easy to overlook.
Very basic way of looking at things 🤣but I do hear ya
absolutely mesmerized by Lex's coffee mug, please put link in the description
google "steampunk coffee mug"
@@SpeedyCorky thanks G
Very positive message, I like it
Everyone has inner riches and can connect to the entire universe form the Planck length to greater vistas beyond our visible universe - these riches can be experienced and be deeply satisfying no matter how little one has in the material sense.
Sounds like Funk 🏂🎵🌞
Sounds like you’re using these “greater vistas” to ignore the idea or eventuality of death :)
Jasondurgen oh you got me! Burned! 😂 I couldn’t possibly be speaking of anything else! Keep your doors closed - the other side is so scary! Boo!
@@bright93 I absolutely agree with you. But it's damn difficult cause one has to chip away at deep conditioning.
First one has to recognize this deep conditioning without taking it personally.
Then 24/7 one has to give up endless psychological attachments.
But this work is the most important thing to do as it leads to deeper and deeper love and beauty and beyond.
All good things.
x b you know nothing about me, so I’ll be the first to let you know you just talked aimlessly out of your ass for no reason
We don't even understand life let alone meaning of it.
When we can start from a right square one we might understand life and eventually arrive at the meaning of it.
However, for the past 10k years of known history we have not find this Square one yet. We may not able to until the end of time if we still keep running away from true and fact of life.
@emulouspoint then if you achieve ways to stay alive then what?
Tony Hawk + LSD + Philosophy = this guy
Looking JACKED Lex 🔥💪😎
This guy took way too much LSD in his day.
Yes he may have he is a brilliant mind and high level thinker it's why lex brought us all here
Is Jordan peterson just cashing out his chips while he is ahead
@@claybomb1064 oh I did back in the day.
He’s says “I hope I’m wrong”.But does he though? Don’t you feel proclaiming the world will end in your life time is like the insecure old guy move. Something along the lines of “I can’t die unless everything dies with me.” In my experience people with this kind of message are lying.
I hope you're right!!
SpaceExplorer life....uh....li-life finds a way
I think that has less to do with "insecurity" and more to do with knowing some facts about the complete unsustainability of our global system and not being in DENIAL of that. Either people are not aware of those facts, or if they are, they retreat in sheer denial. I mean, you just cannot have an "infinite growth paradigm" in a finite planet.. that's just common sense, but people's capacity to ignore how disturbingly flawed our present socio economic system is usualy superseeds their capacity to acknowledge that. Cognitive dissonance is huge. Just look at works like "How Everything Can Collapse" by Servigne and see if you can deal with your cognitive dissonance
Saulo Marcussi No doubt lots of people live in denial. No doubt we cannot just continue to mindlessly breed and consume these finite resources. We will have challenges to overcome viral, human, climate otherwise. Outside of that there seems to be a phenomenon where in a person ties their own mortality with a greater end, like an apocalypse or something. Can you or anyone affirm what I’m seeing here?
@@kevinhinds4625 I fully agree with you on that part.. in my opinion that phenomenon happens systemically and can be sourced in the archetypical (abrahamic) religious narrative that have externalized the greatest individual fear (death) onto a collective hallucinatory cenario generally called apocalypse. So when we see people who are kind of obssessed with the "end of the world" story, what we see is that such person is just projecting their own fear of death to encompass the whole world. In other words, they are actually talking of the end of THEIR world upon death, but unconsciously externalizing that end to include the whole world.
I do not agree that this is merely insecurity coming from the guest, but a well informed assertion, 'cause unfortunately there is definitive evidence that the way we insist with the present socioeconomic regime is not going to extend our collective existence for many dacades into the future, as many would LIKE to believe.. the odds point that "in our lifetime" is a much more accurate assessment of the complete destabilization that is going to happen to our fragile social fabric in case a profoundly serious revision of this paradigm is not undertook pretty fucking soon.
"A petrie dish of psychopathology" good one
Two beautiful spirits, I will remember you both in my prayers.
roxfoot your prayers are useless
@@nursinghomefire6664 in your opinion.
When Tony Hawk became “The Dude”
Memento Mori
We have to step back and analyze 😍! Great #conversation 👌🏾
I really enjoy listening to intelligent conversation.
@Evan Koch neither, but I do enjoy a leisurely afternoon of some aggressive and progressive bean bag tossing.
This guy is a hippie mike rowe
That's why you gotta take it with a grain of salt. Hes probably an ideologue that only views things one way, activism is the armpit of humanity.
Doesn't Sheldon realize all of the aggression is currently coming from the Left? Every last angry drop.
Yup. I had to stop watching once he said that. Apparently he is seeing something else which I certainly cannot see. Earlier when he used the quote from Marx "you are what you do" I started to think it was going to end up with that way of thinking. "It's the hardening of hearts and the desire to believe delusions that bring us to this false belief in an alternate reality" - kmgood329 08/26/202. LOL!
What makes you believe that? Left politics is all about being nice to each other, being social, supporting everyone in need. That way of living is being threatened, people are not being treated equally. So who's the aggressor and who is just reacting to aggression? If a kid punches his bully, is he the aggressive one?
@@Schmogel92 because if u take a look at history at all, u will always see that in just about every instance the Left has to resort to violence - especially in the West. Every one of these cities where u see all of this violence is a Left run city and in most cases since the 1960s. Additionally, now that the Democrats are revealing themselves for who they really are, violence is their choice over debates issues. U would necessarily need to have ur head buried in the sand to not see it"s been all these Leftist socialist / communist organizations, like Black Panthers, Weather Underground thru what ur seeing today BLM and Antifa. Of course because anyone that can't see it or understand this is more than likely due to a substandard education in propaganda about Capitalism is greedy and evil while Communism is sharing and everyone is equal, blah blah blah when the truth is there is more greed, suffering, murder, crime, neglect, corruption, etc in Communism then any other form of government. So read something independent of all the propaganda u seem to have indulged urself in.
False.
@@Schmogel92 "Left politics is all about being nice to each other." ! LMAO!!! You had me man!
When did it start
Rule #1, distrust any person who tries to make you hate others
Good riddance to all the governments 🔥🔥🔥👍
Governments don't "exist", you're talking about the psychopaths that are attracted to power.
whether you think society is going to collapse or not really just depends on your individual emotional state
What you do for work is not what you are as a person. Don't let yourself be categorized because it holds you back from being so much more.
This is an absolutely fantastic discussion, I greatly respect these two gentlemen, they are brilliant.
My fear is that the United States will push further and further towards fighting the CCP - not because we necessarily want to, but because an external enemy is the only way to keep the country together.
Moving to a quiet Mars outpost doesn't sound too bad. (Moving to China also doesn't seem too bad either)
This literally lost me in the opening line. That’s a total misrepresentation of what Pinker has said. Who is this washed out hippie?
A pathetic warmed over Marxist. Welcome to the intellectual bankruptcy of 21st century American academia. And your tax dollars get to pay for it!
Lex losing credibility uploading clips like this and doomsayer clickbait title with it. Hippie trashes Pinker's massive dataset of a book without a single reference or acknowledgement of what life was really like then and now, or anything like an alternative. Then talks about how people will struggle to self-actualise without a job (presumably when on benefits or UBI). Jeez talk about a nice problem to have compared to figuring out how to avoid burning at the stake in a religious civil-war.
"Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea...and even then every man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element...simply in order to prove to himself that men still are men and not piano keys."
This quote from Notes from the Underground came to mind when Sheldon said society's collapse when everything seems like it's never been better.
@12:00 it's like when a LOT of people got married after 9/11 because they were reminded that they could die at any time.
Steve Job's speech to Stanford talked about death and it a great speech to watch.
They are describing the left but say the right?
Exactly
There's also left wing demagoguery going on, namely identity centered manias and moral panics, I.e., woke politics. Our existential angst is being harnessed and weaponized in various ways.
Weaponizing the media and using such a large platform to influence, and ultimately manipulate the minds of the American people, is frightening indeed.
Trump for right leaning dumbos and these for the left leaning ones
what minutes are these?
3:50 "If you have nothing you are nothing."
Always hear about this right wing danger from the intelligencia while observing exclusively left wing fascism and racism on the news. Where is the disconnect with these folks and when can we expect them to catch up to the 21st century? Tony hawk comment is fire
Left wing communism, not fascism
Stephen Murray I stick to a more general definition of fascism as coercion against individual liberty. Forced regimentation of culture and economy with a little suppression of opposition to taste. Left or right, doesn’t matter to me. Same poison recipe made by different chefs
Justin Dunlap
Fascism is perpetrated by the dominant power structure. The left has not been in power and has not been running the government or society. If the left had been running the country, we never would have gone to war in Iraq, we would already have M4All, the Green New Deal, and Bernie Sanders would be the Democratic candidate. Republicans have been running the show for over 40 years.
Even Clinton and Obama, the only two Democrat presidents we have had, cannot be considered to be leftists in any real meaningful way. Clinton signed NAFTA (which was a Republican plan from the start and the majority of Democrats in Congress opposed it), the Republican Crime Bill, and the Republican Welfare Reform Bill. Obama kept Bush’s economic advisers, continued Bush’s Wall Street bailout, and continued the War on Terror as proscribed by the Heritage Foundation’s “Project for a New American Century” plan for the Middle East.
Leftists have always been the marginalized group in the US. Before the Iraq War, the only people to recognize that the mainstream media and the Bush Administration were lying about the existence of WMDs in Iraq were progressives and those progressives were the only people to oppose the war in Iraq. The few journalists to question the war were blacklisted and people like Phil Donahue lost his tv show and was kicked off the air completely. Conservatives and centrists fell for the WMD narrative hook, line, and sinker and they completely supported the war.
Saying that leftists are “fascists” is ridiculous. Leftists just have not had power. It is the conservative right wing that has completely dominated the political sphere in this country and it’s their policies that have brought the country where it is. Taxes for the wealthy haven’t been this low since before the Great Depression. It’s the conservatives’ free trade policies that sold out American jobs to overseas countries. The conservatives have set the agenda politically and economically. About the only sphere in which leftists have been able to obtain any concessions from the right has been in some social aspects: gay rights for instance.
In trying to blame leftists for the country’s ills, including labeling them to be “fascists,” you’re doing exactly what they’re talking about in this video: creating a scapegoat out of those who do not have power and do not bear responsibility for the policies by which the country is run. It’s the exact same thing Hitler and the Nazis did in labeling the Jews as being the cause of all of Germany’s problems. In labeling leftists as the source of the country’s problems, you’re actually revealing yourself to be exactly that which you accuse leftists of being: a fascist. If leftists had been running the country and leftist policies had been employed for the past 40 years, you might have a point; but you don’t. None of any major leftist policies have been implemented in the past 40 years and conservatives have essentially gotten everything they wanted. So, you cannot blame leftists for the state of the nation and you certainly cannot accuse the people who do not have power and are not in control of being fascists. That is utterly absurd.
keir farnum I don’t disagree with a lot of that. The majority of the boomer generation has at every turn sought to enrich itself at the expense of the future and that is not a republican or Democrat thing. The ‘axis of evil’ was definitely a scapegoat for 9/11 and resulted in the longest military conflict in American history. Nation building is a bad and not the way to go about spreading your influence. NAFTA was as I described in my second sentence. Monetary policy is completely out of control and getting far worse even today. The government agencies that provided ‘evidence’ for the Iraq war are the same that provided the ‘evidence’ for ‘Russian collusion’ so I don’t think those agencies qualify as conservative republican. There have been some wonderful liberal changes in this country regarding individual rights, and expansion of gay rights is excellent. The crime bill signed by Clinton was bad, turns out declaring war is not the best problem solving technique for any problem. War on drugs, war on crime, war on poverty, war on terror, war on climate change, war on systemic white racism- none of these wars regardless of your intentions are going to provide the results you’d like to see.
A broken clock is correct twice a day so I don’t think that the people who hated bush and made cases against every thing he did were necessarily right about everything they said. It’s easy to point at wmd in Iraq and in hindsight they were correct about that as far as we know. Im not a climate fatalist so I think the green new deal will have opportunity costs that prohibit it from winning its ‘climate change war’. It will also leave some civilization carnage in its wake and that must be accounted.
You pointed at the last 40 years and blamed it all on conservatives though you admit they were not in power the whole time. In America, when we pass legislation, because of the two party system we have, there will be fingerprints from both sides on the outcomes. All that aside, modern fascism comes from the left. Deplatforming ideas you don’t like, rioting as a means for change, casting all of your adversaries into a morally corrupt group, all fascist techniques. All cops are bad, fascist. All white people are racist, fascist. Let’s riot, fascist. The Latin fascis literally means ‘bundle’. There are currently no republicans engaged in that bundling and forceful suppression of people or ideas. If you think republicans are secretly engaged in that thru subversive cultural and systemic means, you may be suffering from paranoid delusion. But we do agree on some things
"Left wing fascism". That's an oxymoron. If you observe opposition to white supremacy and right wing extremism as a danger to you, well that's on you. Hitler managed to seize power exactly because the left and the moderates where paralysed and didn't act.
still voting trump
One thing is certain..grow you're own food..you dont want to be in a situation where you dont have any or if you cant leave you're house you will be ok..
5:58 Beautiful vibrato. He should be on the X-Factor
Infinite growth on a finite planet is impossible.
Cool Cup! Pretty sure Solomon is one of the Wacados teaching students one thing while doing another.
Comforting...at least it might almost be over
Perspective changes as more knowledge is acquired.