How Ruin Secretly SOLVED The Burntrap Debate

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • Burntrap has been one of FNAF's most interesting Animatronics, not only because he seems to take the form of notorious Serial Killer William Afton, but moreso because Arguments over what he truly is beneath all that flesh and costume have run rampant in the FNAF Theory Space for years now. But today, I outline 1 HIDDEN TEXTURE from Ruin that cracks the Burntrap Debate WIDE OPEN.
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  • @Under_Score
    @Under_Score  Před 12 dny +669

    A few people are mentioning that Burntraps Model was actually made pretty EARLY on in SB's Development. I'll mention this in a planned Future Video analyzing The Mimics Model itself.
    However the fact that Burntraps Clawmark is in a place only The Mimic ever visits is still substantial enough evidence, despite model discrepencies.

    • @Vlodya
      @Vlodya Před 12 dny +24

      Could it be that the model is different and that burntrap has flesh on him is a result of the nightmare gas?
      When you go through the hallway before the pizza place there is a noticeable fog in both sb and ruin, but you only walk through it in sb, in ruin you walk around it. Also there is vapor coming out of burntrap's charging station

    • @eljasson100mugman
      @eljasson100mugman Před 12 dny +6

      They would be the costumes of Ruin, Tiger Rock (the story of TFTP 7), Storyteller (tree), Mimic1 (Glitchtrap) the blue dog from epilogue 7, the spider from epilogue 8, and the Jester from epilogue 8.

    • @cicicringe
      @cicicringe Před 12 dny +3

      LMAO he's in the first showcase

    • @greggoleggo9160
      @greggoleggo9160 Před 11 dny +4

      I do think that it’s the same endo but not the same entity in control. I believe that it’s not the mimic endo in control but rather the separate but similar program that is glitchtrap.
      At the very least the mimic in the ruin and burntrap in security breach have different motives. The character in ruin that acts the most like burntrap is actually the entity/mxes/glitchy purple rabbit. I know people are gonna heavily disagree with this but it’s what I believe.

    • @longfishy
      @longfishy Před 11 dny +4

      ​@@greggoleggo9160 The only way I can see that happening is if Glitchtrap wants to secure the Mimic's body for himself, and that's why he guards it.
      Though it's clear that Glitchtrap in Ruin actually is in the form of the HelpI programme, or at least the specific Vanny mask we see. This makes sense as Glitchtrap is probably in the mask in HW 2, which is why he can give the memory dolls to bonnie bro.
      If this is true then that means he is using Cassy to free the mimic, and also infect her since he doesn't have Vanessa anymore to help him integrate himself into the mimic. Two birds with one stone (or mask).

  • @lastfilms3578
    @lastfilms3578 Před 11 dny +674

    Actually a great theory, but now I’m imagining this scene.
    “Okay, Gregory, you lure The Mimic in and distract it! I’ll pour the concrete and trap it!”
    “Wait, doesn’t concrete take like, days to set?”
    “Do a really good job.”

    • @AngelTheory-M
      @AngelTheory-M Před 11 dny +21

      it is fine the mimic was made to entertain the crying child, now as gregory

    • @andreix4025
      @andreix4025 Před 11 dny +11

      ​@@AngelTheory-Mit was n t

    • @PyroTheRabbit
      @PyroTheRabbit Před 9 dny +15

      @@AngelTheory-M Wrong kid

    • @JLpiparote2
      @JLpiparote2 Před 8 dny +17

      maybe vanessa put that some days before and then Gregory lured the mimic inside through the vent and then escaped through the same vent, thus collapsing it because of the weight. (Probably, also i know its a joke probably i dont know)

    • @AngelTheory-M
      @AngelTheory-M Před 8 dny +2

      @@JLpiparote2 the mimic can't attack Gregory, he will tries to hold as long possible to protect Gregory from anything

  • @datajacked4179
    @datajacked4179 Před 12 dny +1176

    One error I would like to point out is that Burntrap's model wasn't made late in development, He was actually made pretty early on in development.

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 12 dny +229

      I'll look into that in a future video. Thanks!

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před 12 dny +20

      He was a late addition. And it's obvious

    • @datajacked4179
      @datajacked4179 Před 12 dny +145

      @@novustalks7525 No it's not, one of the modelers said he was the second model he made.
      so, it was pretty early on

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před 12 dny +63

      @@datajacked4179 that doesn't mean he was only the second model ever made. Just that one guy's second creation

    • @griffysfnafchannel
      @griffysfnafchannel Před 12 dny +30

      @@novustalks7525 good point there.

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Před 12 dny +539

    Help Wanted 2 basically seemed to indicate that the Mimic no longer had William's programming/influence. The giant Vanny crushing Glitchtrap was likely Vanessa not only overcoming her own mind control, but helping remove the same influence from the Mimic by either removing it manually or hacking it with the system we see in Ruin.
    So the Mimic basically got tired of that 'costume' and sought out a new identity, which happened to be Gregory. Which explains its new costume and why it did so much to copy him.
    The Mimic is honestly EXTREMELY similar to Ennard the more you think about it and I really wish theorists would focus on those details.

    • @GospodinWolf
      @GospodinWolf Před 11 dny +4

      Nah, Vanny is actually the Mimic 1 programming after disconnecting from Glitchtrap, since it read all his information. So, Mimic killed Afton.

    • @hazakurasuyama9016
      @hazakurasuyama9016 Před 11 dny +15

      Mimic redemption arc when

    • @AngelTheory-M
      @AngelTheory-M Před 11 dny +6

      Glitchtrap isn't the originally the mimic, its something else create by william to control it, so what vanny did was elimanted up glitchtrap from the pizzaplex

    • @rodrigocoockiemonster4460
      @rodrigocoockiemonster4460 Před 11 dny +10

      Immediatly after the release of Sister Location everybody thought Ennard was THE purple guy, since the explanation of Michael Afton being the one scooped only came with the release of SL Custom's night, this originally meant the killer had always been a robot and placed Ennard as the main villain this of course was later clarified/retconned.
      I believe Steelwool is toying with this original idea everybody had.

    • @andreix4025
      @andreix4025 Před 11 dny +7

      ​@@AngelTheory-Mglichtrap isn t made by afton more controled by him.glichtrap is made of mimic.1 program after the fazbear entertaiment made the vr game,and no fazbear entertaiment isn t willam

  • @kitsunemusicisfire
    @kitsunemusicisfire Před 12 dny +340

    As much as the idea of Gregory just sitting around while Vanessa does the work cuz he's just a kid sounds absolutely adorable, something tells me his personality won't really allow him to just sit tight and not help out. And I feel like he's more than capable.

    • @TechnicalTechnicolor
      @TechnicalTechnicolor Před 11 dny +51

      According to a few arcade cabinets and the books, you are correct. He is an extremely talented hacker.

    • @greggoleggo9160
      @greggoleggo9160 Před 11 dny +29

      I swear steelwool made a tweet or reveal recently that confirmed the mxes machine is older than the pizzaplex. If that is the case then they didn’t make it. Which makes sense I know they’re talented hackers but they couldn’t build a super computer for a security system in one night in a dingy basement with spare parts and have it look that well made.

    • @longfishy
      @longfishy Před 10 dny +11

      Yeah he literally could have just waited for 6 hours in SB doing nothing.

    • @PyroTheRabbit
      @PyroTheRabbit Před 9 dny +3

      @@TechnicalTechnicolor Also a brutal kid

    • @Spiterz64
      @Spiterz64 Před dnem

      ​@@greggoleggo9160They revealed it in the Fuhnaff interview

  • @Joshchive
    @Joshchive Před 10 dny +106

    I still find it strange how the particular purple hue that appears around the vent in Burntrap's room where the clawmark is, is only present in one other place, that being where we find the Mimic during the final reveal sequence, which just so happens to be close by the only other vent that has the claw marks and connects to Mimic's room.

  • @TheCollector2401
    @TheCollector2401 Před 12 dny +122

    I’m slightly confused. The claw mark in the Burntrap area implies Burntrap climbed out of his area through that vent. Why is he down in the basement with the mascot costumes?
    (Also slight correction the M.X.E.S. system is supposed to be extremely old according to JTop in the Steelwool interview so I doubt Vanessa made it)

    • @OrtonLongGaming
      @OrtonLongGaming Před 11 dny +32

      the claw mark just shows he was there, he was lured down to the mascot room presumably by gregory and vanessa

    • @ProfDriftwood
      @ProfDriftwood Před 11 dny +26

      I suspect M.X.E.S. was added or activated at a later point in the timeline, as it didn't really seem to be involved in Security Breach. Though the computer is very old, the statement they made was that Vanni/Gregory had "setup the MXES security program" and "get it up and running." Even if they just hit the on button, that seems like it's probably accurate.

    • @gameslayer3976
      @gameslayer3976 Před 8 dny +5

      The device could have been built during the 80’s but I doubt a supercomputer that old would be able to have AR and VR capabilities.

    • @theengineer2017
      @theengineer2017 Před 7 dny +3

      @@gameslayer3976 It was probably modified after it's initial creation to further contain the Mimic

    • @gameslayer3976
      @gameslayer3976 Před 7 dny

      @@theengineer2017 exactly

  • @TannerNatoli
    @TannerNatoli Před 10 dny +115

    I love how Ruin was built off of the fact that Steel Wool made us believe the Burntrap ending was the cannon one.
    It was a twist that we weren’t expecting.

    • @KyrusR
      @KyrusR Před 6 dny +17

      steel wool never made anyone believe burntrap was canon, in fact it's _literally a 2 star ending_ compared to princess quest's 3 star ending
      that alone said exactly which one is canon yet almost the entire community missed it

    • @Lord_Chibi
      @Lord_Chibi Před 6 dny +12

      @@KyrusR yes but remember one got a comic book ending and one got a cutscene so again it's weird.

    • @Zanophane_Gaming
      @Zanophane_Gaming Před 6 dny +3

      @@Lord_Chibi its something called a "red herring"

    • @Takejiro24
      @Takejiro24 Před 3 dny +3

      ​@@Zanophane_Gaming Either that or Steel Wool wasn't able to give the other endings fully animated cutscenes like the Burntrao ending due to lack of time.
      Interestingly enough, the cutscene of Freddy being torn apart (which leads into either the "Disassemble Vanny" or "Princess Quest" endings) is fully animated so make of that what you will.

  • @cheddadoodle
    @cheddadoodle Před 12 dny +419

    While we’re on the topic of environmental storytelling, someone noticed an interesting detail that might further prove Burntrap is The Mimic. In Security Breach, Burntrap’s room has purple lighting, symbolizing the presence of “Afton”, or Glitchtrap. In Ruin however, the room is dark orange, which could symbolize the fact that Burntrap is no more, and now it’s just The Mimic, who as we see in Ruin dropped the Afton persona. It’s a neat little detail, and I personally believe that it was in fact meant to have significance.

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 12 dny +82

      Yes you're correct about the lighting. I might mention this in a future video about FNAF's Environmental Storytelling.

    • @chibk
      @chibk Před 12 dny +16

      u might be onto something cuz colors are very important in fnaf🙏🏽

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +10

      I would also like to add there’s a specific light that turns on behind mimic in the cutscene
      Mimic is surrounded by purple like burn trap

    • @eljasson100mugman
      @eljasson100mugman Před 12 dny +5

      a correction, Glitchtrap is Mimic by Tiger Rock, GGY and Monty Within, in MW (Monty Within) the protagonist is possessed in a very similar way to Vanessa with Glitchtrap. In Storyteller also with the tree thing there is also a theory that says that the Storyteller tree, the head of that tree (which is described in a way that looks like Tiger Rock) that the employees grabbed that head for Tiger. but it's just a theory. That's why the pizzaplex animatronics attack us and act in different ways. And in the Fazbear epilogue Frights Puppet kills William. And that's why Glitchtrap is not William, but Mimic.

    • @cheddadoodle
      @cheddadoodle Před 12 dny +5

      @@eljasson100mugman I already wholeheartedly believed that Mimic was Glitchtrap. Just feels obvious at this point, and always has since Glitchtrap was introduced.

  • @amanul_2474
    @amanul_2474 Před 8 dny +71

    It never occurred to me that the Mimic could only replicate Gregory's voice by hearing it ie, both of them meeting at some point. Having the mimic lure Cassie with the walkie-talkie is brilliantly ironic if you believe Gregory did the same to the mimic

    • @imgood3374
      @imgood3374 Před 6 dny +5

      That would've been smart that the mimic use the same tactic use against him for later

  • @TheLegendaryBillCipher
    @TheLegendaryBillCipher Před 7 dny +25

    I don't know about Gregory not having much of a hand in setting up the security system. In Tales from the Pizzaplex, he's been shown to be a talented enough hacker to have hacked the Glamrocks without anyone noticing.

  • @boltindie9011
    @boltindie9011 Před 12 dny +26

    Also, another key point of the Mimic showing physical damage from the vent collapse is that its right leg appears to have its best idea of a bolted legbrace, trying to keep itself intact

  • @GermanFFreddy
    @GermanFFreddy Před 12 dny +55

    If this is the case, why would he remove the Springbonnie suit? Also, fun fact! Before Glitchtrap, they were originally going to use Springbonnie, and when he was scrapped, they reused some parts for Burntrap.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 12 dny +18

      Cause he's not mimcking afton any more

    • @lastfilms3578
      @lastfilms3578 Před 11 dny +16

      My guess would be that when Vanny (or at least whoever we see in HW2’s PQ4 ending whether it be Vanny or Vanessa) kills Glitchtrap, The Mimic stops mimicking it.

    • @lackypub8624
      @lackypub8624 Před 8 dny +1

      Well the mimic like to mimic other things and didn't see a reason to mimic the springbonnie suit.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 7 dny +2

      @@lackypub8624 he mimicked Afton though ffve not mimicking springbonnie

    • @lackypub8624
      @lackypub8624 Před 6 dny +1

      @@ZavoyHarwood Sorry that's What I meant to say. Still no reason to mimic afton is because it was stuck down for a while and got bored or it and the skin suit sustained too much damage.

  • @bentheben328
    @bentheben328 Před 12 dny +77

    it’s crazy how much environmental story telling is in sb and the dlc.Its also probably the reason we haven’t found everything in sb yet

  • @l_herobrine_l2762
    @l_herobrine_l2762 Před 5 dny +6

    The mimic and burntrap CANNOT be the same. There are too many physical discrepancies.

  • @Pendulum42069
    @Pendulum42069 Před 6 dny +7

    I think you're onto something with the vent textures, but there is a few things going against burntrap being the mimic. First, the model differences, specifically the torso area. Underneath peepaw aftons suit has the weird ribcage like thing that springlock suits have. Second I dont know how the mimic would just ditch a random corpse and have 0 trace of it whatsoever but this could just be overlooked as a thing to keep ruin PG13 or something. Third, as someone else mentioned, the claw mark in burntraps area was going towards the place we fight him as Gregory in SB, therefore I'd be weird that he'd just turn around or something, fight Gregory down in the mimic lair area and get trapped. Now I dont have a explanation as to why the claw marks are in the mimic vent, but im sure someone could come up with something. lastly and most importantly, in a the official SB files book, it says this: "Gregory eventually ends up in a secret office where he faces off with burntrap----a withered spring bonnie animatronic merged with the body of Five Nights at Freddy's antagonist William Afton. Defeat Afton, and this ending is yours." (Page 94 btw) so the a official book outright CONFIRMS this is William Afton, now idk if this has been confirmed wrong or something because I haven't really been keeping up with fnaf lore lol
    BUT YEAH just thought I'd point this out!

    • @thomascreegan6813
      @thomascreegan6813 Před 2 dny

      have you read the mimics original story it's able to shrink grow and do any thing to get in to a costume

    • @Pendulum42069
      @Pendulum42069 Před 2 dny

      @thomascreegan6813 admittedly, not all of them, BUT I do know that it can't just grow a corpse, now I do know that it springlocked Kelly, but considering ruin takes place after SB that means the mimic would have ditched the corpse somehow which I find hard to believe

    • @Eriku.Naxehiry
      @Eriku.Naxehiry Před 16 hodinami

      Finally someone mentioned the book. At this point I am not that sure if it’s 100% accurate but I’d really like to believe that. I like to think that Burntrap and the mimic are two separate characters. There’s been too many theories about the mimic being Burntrap or the mimic not being Burntrap that I’ll rather wait for the next game to come out and we’ll see. Even though this theory seems as the most believable due to the environmental storytelling. As I said. Nice point with the book. In the official character encyclopaedia there’s also written that Burntrap is Afton. But the book has a few characters missing and some mistakes about character appearances in games, so I don’t believe it 100% too

  • @Starbear_Ent
    @Starbear_Ent Před 12 dny +68

    This debate should have ended a long time ago with the Tales from the Pizzaplex books.
    People always skip this for some reason, maybe because they don't like the reveal, but The Mimic in the Epilogues of these books is described like Burntrap's endo, rabbit ears included! The workers even thought he was a Bonnie endo!
    I also thought Help Wanted 2 solved it with the Mask bot ending, but apparently people were not convinced.
    The light in Burntrap's room also changes from purple to orange in Ruin.
    And the design change can also be explained by The Mimic's ability to reconfigurate his body (He turned into a spider once!).
    I believe that if they straight-up confirm it somewhere, fans would say that it's a retcon because they debunked their headcanon.

    • @sophitiaofhyrule
      @sophitiaofhyrule Před 12 dny +8

      I hate that you're right

    • @GospodinWolf
      @GospodinWolf Před 11 dny +6

      Nah, that's because the real debate was around Glitchtrap being Mimic 1, which he isn't, now that there's lore drops that confirm that. We knew that Glitchtrap was Burntrap, but after The Mimic was shown ppl claimed that this Mimic was Glitchtrap (which he wasn't), which eventually led to people saying that Burntrap isn't Mimic.

    • @Starbear_Ent
      @Starbear_Ent Před 11 dny +4

      @@GospodinWolf but Glitchtrap did come from the Mimic1 program. It was formed when Mimic1 was scanned into Help Wanted and created a virtual copy of Afton because it's a game with Faz ent lore. Just like how he created a virtual Glamrock Tiger in one of the VR booths of the Pizzaplex

    • @GospodinWolf
      @GospodinWolf Před 11 dny +3

      @@Starbear_Ent He wasn't ? Why then would Mimic 1 program kill itself in the Glitchtrap form ? If you're confused i'm talking about Help Wanted 2's secret ending, where Vanny (the identity of Mimic 1 that is now copying Glitchtrap) kills, well, Glitchtrap.
      That's the only reason why Vanny existed after PQ ending and in HW 2, it was afraid that Glitchtrap would take back control again, and THAT's the reason why Gregory and Vanessa went back to the Pizzaplex, and THAT is why Glitchtrap is NOT Mimic 1. PERIOD.

    • @Starbear_Ent
      @Starbear_Ent Před 11 dny +11

      @@GospodinWolf I think you are overcomplicating things. The PQ 4 Ending was Vanessa using Vanny for good and killing what was left of Glitchtrap. Mimic1 did not kill itself, I don't know where did you get that from, Gregory made Glitchtrap weak after PQ 3, and PQ 4 destroyed him for good. The death of Glitchtrap caused The Mimic to not be Burntrap anymore. The last thing Glitchtrap did was to give the mask to Cassie so she could free The Mimic

  • @the_shadowphoenix
    @the_shadowphoenix Před 12 dny +57

    I was waiting for someone to finally take a closer look at this room, and you finally did. Excellent work.

  • @bubbleshock14
    @bubbleshock14 Před 12 dny +38

    The scratch marks are very interesting for sure, but why is the entire rest of the body (except for one hand) completely different as well?

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 12 dny +38

      Steel Wools models change a lot. There's the Prototype on Freddy's Foot, and even some of the Ruineds have IMPOSSIBLE Inconsistencies to the Shattereds. Model Consistency is lacking usually, however Burntrap wouldddd be the most exaggerated case of this.

    • @VOgaming51official
      @VOgaming51official Před 12 dny +9

      @@Under_Score there's probably prototype on Freddy's foot because that Freddy is a prototype. As for the shattereds, you'd have to go into details. Roxy's face is explain in HW 2 if that's one of them.

    • @bubbleshock14
      @bubbleshock14 Před 12 dny +14

      @@Under_Score I was thinking about it after, would it be possible that the mimic attacked Burntrap and dragged him down there? I feel like it's more likely that it took burntrap's hand for repairs than Burntrap changing everything else. As you said, models in SB can be inconsistent, but this is taking it to the very extreme

    • @TheJonkler1
      @TheJonkler1 Před 12 dny +5

      @@bubbleshock14 No not really.The Mimic in Tales was described to be a perfect match for his endo,he has a ribcage,2 clawed arms,2 rabbit ears that resemble antennae.Its pretty much confirmed that he is Burntrap

    • @lastfilms3578
      @lastfilms3578 Před 11 dny +9

      @@VOgaming51officialI think that the prototype sticker was always there, and time has just worn off the paint covering it. Given the overwhelming amount of evidence we have for Princess Quest being the canon ending, it would be really strange to have a decapitated Freddy in the correct spot and not have it be the real Freddy.
      As to why this choice was made, I think there are two reasons. For one, it help explains why when the Glichtrap virus attempts to takeover Freddy, it fails. And the other reason would to be to complete one of Freddy’s mini-‘arcs.’
      In parts and service in Security Breach, you can get unique dialogue where Freddy panics over the possibility that he isn’t the only Freddy, and therefore not art. Ruin answers this. He is the only him, he is the first, he is art.

  • @HolasoyConejito
    @HolasoyConejito Před 7 dny +4

    I don't know if Burntrap and Mimic are the same, since with the exception of the left hand, they have nothing in common, and it's not even completely the same, and Mimic has no traces of flesh, or anything like that.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 6 dny

      He does have traces of flesh his marks on him

  • @MrStain87
    @MrStain87 Před 12 dny +7

    I enjoyed listening to this theory!
    Using the tool steel wool uses (environmental story telling) as a way to figure out the lore is such a fun idea.
    Back in the veteran days of fnaf, Scott would always leave codes and clues to help us solve the lore in places we wouldn't expect. (Although a bit more obvious)
    I'm glad steel wool can keep this franchise going. Even when some don't want it to.
    Thank you for sharing!

  • @springtrap4225
    @springtrap4225 Před 11 dny +6

    New theory to explain Gregory and his different ending drawings: Gregory is secretly frisk Undertale and has the ability to reset timelines and shit and that's why he knows about the different endings and draws them... for some reason. idk.

  • @MasterChaosL100
    @MasterChaosL100 Před 5 dny +4

    Or. A simple observation. In Ruin, Burntrap's recharge station is still closed. And in the Burntrap ending we clearly see it open in the cutscene for Burntrap to emerge from. Not to mention the fact that the whole Burntrap area is pretty much still in tact as well.
    So if the recharge station is still closed, that could mean Burntrap never emerged from the recharge station at all. Also if the mimic is the one who made the claw marks, maybe it's the mimic that was roaming around those areas, between the end of Security Breach and Ruin. This can be also be supported by the fact that they only appear in Ruin, and not Security Breach. Since Burntrap didn't make them nor the Mimic during Security Breach.

  • @S.C.Raptor
    @S.C.Raptor Před 10 dny +8

    I would like the bring up the first scratch in the burner rooms.
    The Burner rooms themselves are illuminated by orange lights, no doubt signifying that the Mimic is present, however the ventilation shaft that has the Burntrap scratch mark is illuminated entirely by a purple light instead of orange. Even though the Burntrap ending doesn’t technically happen, something happened here in the burner rooms. We can’t see to the other room through the vent and both doors are blocked by rubble.
    Whatever happened, I believe the other side of the vent is where Afton ended up(the corpse on Burntrap is undoubtedly William Afton and you cannot convince me otherwise). Because when looking at the purple vent, the light has a spotlight effect and it’s coming from the end of the vent specifically. There’s a reason we can’t see that room.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 9 dny +1

      There is a problem . Burntraps claw mark IS CALLED MIMICS CLAW MARK BY THE FILES. Burntrap is the mimic

    • @S.C.Raptor
      @S.C.Raptor Před 9 dny +3

      @@ZavoyHarwood well yes, I know Burntrap is the Mimic but there is no denying the body on Burntrap’s endo is William.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 9 dny +2

      @@S.C.Raptor eh i beg to differ i think it's luca. And I'm stitchline soooo

    • @S.C.Raptor
      @S.C.Raptor Před 9 dny +7

      @@ZavoyHarwood has rotting purple flesh, 4th degree burns, glowing purple eyes, a Springlock rib cage, and a suit made of rotten flesh and bone. That shit is not a coincidence.

    • @Skibbutz
      @Skibbutz Před 9 dny +2

      Burntraps Corpse is more likely to just be fake like the AR springtraps corpses. Vanessa made both after all.
      Not to mention that Tales comes as a package deal with the Stitchline due to Frailty. Meaning Aftons corpse is not something Vanessa or Glitchtrap could ever get their hands on because its not in FFPS and they would have no clue where it went

  • @THGMR-ox7sd
    @THGMR-ox7sd Před 12 dny +27

    Huh... interesting.
    I've seen people saying Burntrap isn't the Mimic. I've seen people say he is the Mimic.
    But this is some interesting environmental storytelling. I bet someone will find a way to disprove it somehow but this seems pretty convincing to me. The thing is why do this though other than the obvious "people hated that Afton came back so we're gonna pretend that's not Afton"?

    • @Crystal-pro-2024
      @Crystal-pro-2024 Před 12 dny +8

      Mostly because mimic was kinda teased as far back as hw2 with glitchtrap mincing tape girl, and that being the only speech he ever has, which is how mimic also works I ruin.

    • @nationalpv
      @nationalpv Před 12 dny +10

      People only say they retconned BurnTrap because there’s the Mimic. This video actually has evidence as to why BurnTrap isn’t a retcon and is the mimic we see in ruin. Nothing ever said that BurnTrap was even Afton in the first place

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před 12 dny +5

      It's easily disproven. He couldn't explain why the mimic doesn't have the springlocked corpse

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před 12 dny +7

      @@nationalpv burntrap was literally springtrap, had a voice actor in the security breach trailer that said his character was afton, has the whole purple colour association and much more.
      The mimic IS a retcon

    • @Crystal-pro-2024
      @Crystal-pro-2024 Před 12 dny +10

      @@novustalks7525 he had a voice in the trailer, but thw trailer isn't what we got. If it was, we'd be arguing over how the hell Mike has multiple lives while working in fnaf 1, all we have is what's in the final game they gave us, which is no voice at all. At that point, just start using cut content if your going to use very outdated trailers.

  • @chewy99.
    @chewy99. Před 7 dny +3

    Dang bruh I wanted the actual William Afton not the mimic…

  • @BlustreakG
    @BlustreakG Před 12 dny +30

    After Cassie Escapes the Mimic, I can't remember if his hand was cut off by the elevator door too. Making him lose another hand.
    So chances of the Models of both Mimic and Burntrap not being similar is because the Mimic was yet to become the Burntrap at some point.
    They'd keep getting damaged in which they'd find replacement parts

  • @SQUIRSEE98
    @SQUIRSEE98 Před 5 dny +1

    Its funny that everyone is talking about burntrap being the mimic but none are talking about how the blob is trying to destroy burntrap

  • @vomitedthoughts
    @vomitedthoughts Před 6 dny +3

    I hate to say it but I think they really just threw that Afton ending together just to call it done because of time constraints because I can't see them trying to hint the mimic at all in SB

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 6 dny +2

      The P46 therapy tapes actually make it pretty obvious mimic was the plan. A therapist mentions at one point that Gregory is talking to an AI that takes in information from prompts. A generative AI, but one that's manipulative and asking questions to Gregory.
      Only problem is...Gregory's playing him.

    • @vomitedthoughts
      @vomitedthoughts Před 6 dny

      @@at_witts_end3470 unfortunately I never found all the disc because of that stupid no saving after 6:00, no idea why the hell I thought that was a smart idea to implement that, that being said if the mimic was planned it doesn't seem like that was really focused on. So either they just didn't know how or had more important things to focus on and it didn't actually put any major hints along the game, and I mean like obvious I know FNAF is supposed to be kind of vague but at some point you have to just basically making a neon sign of it's this, after all they call it the Afton boss fight in game so either they just threw it together and thought they can twist it and later or something

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 6 dny +2

      @@vomitedthoughts they fixed saving and you could just google all the therapy tapes. It's also not the "Afton ending". It's the Burntrap ending. MAJOR difference. There's also the Mimics damaged head in Help Wanted's files.

    • @vomitedthoughts
      @vomitedthoughts Před 6 dny

      @@at_witts_end3470 really I remember going into the files and having Afton referenced a lot, and damaged mimic head, HW 1 or 2?

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 6 dny

      @@vomitedthoughts he is not. And in Help Wanted 1. It was one of the images on the exotic butters screen before people found out it was from Showbiz.

  • @neverland8974
    @neverland8974 Před 10 dny +71

    I've watched this video three times now and I'll never reach the high I did when you first revealed the claw mark in the Mimic Tunnel. I gasped out loud and then started screeching "I KNEW IT. I KNEW MIMIC WAS BURNTRAP" on repeat.

    • @andreix4025
      @andreix4025 Před 8 dny +5

      Its was so obious that burntrap was never meant to be afton, ever since Tales relesed

  • @ProfDriftwood
    @ProfDriftwood Před 11 dny

    Great catch! Wonderful work.

  • @JinxeBlaq
    @JinxeBlaq Před 10 dny +3

    One thing that contradicts a part of this theory is the fact that, during FahNaf’s interview with Steel Wool, they confirmed the machine is REALLY old. So they couldn’t have set that system up. That aside this is a pretty solid theory!

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 10 dny +3

      I said they set the system up, but didn’t say where it came from ;)

    • @JinxeBlaq
      @JinxeBlaq Před 10 dny +1

      @@Under_Score Clever, very clever lol

  • @Samantha517
    @Samantha517 Před 12 dny +18

    Wait, but what happened to all of the dead and rotted skin that was covering Burntrap in SB? Did the Mimic rip it all off while it was chasing Gregory?

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 12 dny +19

      Tore it off after Vanessa and Jeremy took Glitchtrap out back with a shotgun and painted the ground black with his weird code goo. No reason to pretend to be William if the code of you that says "be William" is dead. Might as well imitate the person you hate most (after Jeremy). The person who beat you.

    • @Samantha517
      @Samantha517 Před 12 dny

      @@at_witts_end3470 Ok that makes sense.

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před 12 dny +4

      ​@@at_witts_end3470why would the mimic even have that corpse in the first place

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +5

      @@novustalks7525 because of glitch traps agony he grows the corpse

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +9

      The books have mimic rip off Kelly corpse after it gets on him so
      After he leaves the pod because there’s no tangle and Gregory he walks around the location and takes it off

  • @DJBurns-jq8mn
    @DJBurns-jq8mn Před 11 dny +3

    Once again something new is discovered and helps us theorize. However consider this:
    The mimic endo was in the Pizzaplex before it even opened to the public meaning it would of had to of been sealed early on in the Pizzaplex construction otherwise it would cause trouble. What is more likely imo is that the Burntrap ending is canon along with the Princess Quest ending with it happening before Princess Quest as it is still labeled as the true ending in Security Breach and with Princess Quest having 3 stars means it's the best possible ending meaning everything that could be dealt with was dealt with meaning Burntrap was taken by the Blob and the Mimic could of found the remains of Burntrap after the Blob unalived him and torn off his limbs like it was programmed to do as well as replaced parts of them with Burntrap's thus explaining why the Mimic endo is uneven in design.
    With that the Blob escapes, Gregory finds the mimic sealed but the earthquake allowed the Mimic an opportunity to escape and Gregory then tricks the Mimic resulting in it getting Gregory's voice and walkie talkie leading uo to Ruin.
    This also works well with other things like how Gregory knows the Mimic was down there for so long, how Gregory and Freddy got out, why theres a drawing of Burntrap right before the Blob takes them and how all the animatronics are missing the parts used for Freddy which can only be done when doing the Burntrap ending.

  • @sageseraph5035
    @sageseraph5035 Před 8 dny

    Very solid vid Underscore, great job!

  • @boltindie9011
    @boltindie9011 Před 12 dny +2

    Additionally on the thought of alternative endings that still could’ve happened, the Scooper Ending of Ruin is a mirror to the Burntrap ending, with the clawed scooper acting as the Funtime face-plated Tangle picking up Burntrap, but instead it’s the Mimic Endo, which shows us what could’ve happened after Burntrap was scooped up by the Tangle, with the costume being ripped off and the Endo being spat out. With the Scooper ending being the inverse. In Ruin however, the Tangle escaped without tearing up Burntrap, thus it’s the vent collapse that damaged him instead of the Tangle.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +38

    A good explanation for burntraps corpse suit is the flesh corpse theory
    Basically when glitch trap is put inside mimic The agony is so strong that it grow the corpse and suit.
    It’s shown in the books, agony creatures, like pittrap and in the fleshtrap that and they can have flesh and suits from pure agony. The purple smoke is the stench of agony because agony smells bad according to fright.
    Now I do think glitch trap is also mimic so that does ask the question why mimic is corrupt mimic so here’s my best answers
    1. To make himself stronger
    2. to reactivate himself and heal himself. (most likely I think since burn traps asleep in the pod)
    As for what happens to the corpse and costume mimic just takes it off like how he takes off Kelly’s flesh after it gets on him
    The reason he doesn’t do this on the burntrap ending is because he gets distracted by Gregory and Freddy
    As for burntrap behavior in the boss fight I think it’s just because he’s not fully charge so he needs to rely on the animatronics to get rid of Gregory

    • @VOgaming51official
      @VOgaming51official Před 12 dny +4

      isn't Afton heavily assocciated with the color purple in fnaf. Also, in the frights books epilouges, Afton's spirit has that same bad stench.
      Also, why would the mimic need a charging station? It doesn't look anything like the glamrock endos, which would need charging stations.
      Also, if mimic can control the animatronics then why doesn't it do it in ruin. I'd have to assume it was controlling the animatronics through out the base security breach game.
      Also, given mimic's character, what would be the end goal for pretending to be Afton? As for the part of the theory stating that Afton's agony, if not Afton himself, corrupted and changed the structure of _A_ mimic I can see that.

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +7

      @@VOgaming51official mimic can’t control the animatronics because mxes controls all of them
      Or he can but he chooses not to because he wants Cassie to save them. (mask bot makes this weird)
      MXES controls all of the animatronics and ruin tho they only start attacking Cassie after she gets the mask and MXES calls the animatronics to attack her
      Glitch trap is a branch of mimic and re-creating Afton is not mimic main goal
      HIs main according to Tiger rock to learn as much as he can he loves learning

    • @TheStarlingGuy
      @TheStarlingGuy Před 11 dny +3

      Doesn't Fnaf AR also imply/confirm that Glitchtrap can create flesh? Because the Springtrap replicas have flesh in them.
      I don't think The Mimic would need too charge since he's basiclly a agony creature at this point( and NO a digital-ghost *wouldn't* *need* to charge either) and agony creatures if I remember correctly don't need anything to function. Eleanor can eat a apple apperently but idk if she has to. But I really don't have any other explanation for this so... yeah idk.
      I think Mimic's behavior in Burntrap's Boss battle can be explained by the fact that it was probally extremely rushed. In AstrallSpiff SB beta video (this one czcams.com/video/omcuNAdjkpg/video.htmlsi=-0TIPux5161JGdXy. )
      the Burntrap ending is seemingly unfinished. Keep in mind that this is the PlayStation version and that the time between this and fullgame is reportedly around *1* *month*. If the same is for the PC version then (including optimazing) Burntrap's weird behavior is rather understantable.

    • @pikaland3852
      @pikaland3852 Před 4 dny

      "the stench of agony because agony smells bad"
      it's now my headcannon that Agony smells like the most rancid fart that has ever existed but like X10. Why? because it's funny.

  • @Crystal-pro-2024
    @Crystal-pro-2024 Před 12 dny +17

    While were talking about reused assets, mimic also reuses a lot of assets, he has nightmare chicas leg and hand, and an endo 01 head, but modified, as an exsample. Which isnt exsactly un common for ruin given that practicly every character is an asset flip, even cassie herself seemed to use gregory as a base, which is why her ruin modle just looked so... off, tho that ones speculation only. I guess here keeping the tradition of physical mimics only being asset flips

    • @Unknowncameraman15
      @Unknowncameraman15 Před 12 dny

      Hey man how are you

    • @Skibbutz
      @Skibbutz Před 12 dny +5

      The Mimics head in Ruin is a completely uniqe asset, its not similar to Endo 01 at all idk how you came to that conclusion
      But yes he does reuse nightmare chicas endo foot. Although like his nightmare hand, its technically a new model with unique topology, it just isn't a new design. So its only kinda half of an asset flip

  • @skycreeper0173
    @skycreeper0173 Před 6 dny

    That was super fun and interesting to watch! Awesome video!

  • @haja.
    @haja. Před 3 dny +1

    how does mimic know about ultimate custom night in fnaf AR? why is mimic so attached to the mci memories in help wanted 2? why did jtop confirm that glitchtrap's code was 'dead' after help wanted 2 if he was still around? why are both glitchtrap and burntrap referred to as afton in official character guides? hell, if we're so insistent in thinking of the goosebumps books as canon, why is a detail so specific like puppet's mask being stuck underwater completely ignored in the games? why are there so many inconsistencies in designs, locations, and plotlines from the books to the games? if steel wool wanted to accentuate burntrap's endo over anything else, they wouldn't have made it an asset flip, they would've made it an actual unique model from the get-go instead of waiting until ruin

  • @sambar2772
    @sambar2772 Před 12 dny +3

    Nice Spring Bonnie mod you got there ;)

  • @lordvik2259
    @lordvik2259 Před 12 dny +11

    Your discovery is really interesting, but I don't believe it's enough to prove that Burntrap and the Mimic are the same. Your point was that the claw mark was the same on both characters, and that their claws were practically the same, but you yourself said that Steel Wool reused assets they already had for Help Wanted, which probably also happened with The Mimic , use an asset they already had. I believe that Burntrap and The Mimic are two distinct characters, with The Mimic being the creation of Edwin (or perhaps Henry in the games' timeline), probably dating back to the 1980s or later, while Burntrap is literally what's left of William Afton as Scraptrap from Fnaf Pizzeria Simulator (considering that Scraptrap was just a bad design and was retconned by making Burntrap have parts of Springbonnie's original design), but enhanced with new parts possibly Glamrock or from another model line, but not being William Afton is the one possessing it. Analyzing Burntrap's design, we can see that the disproportionate shoulders do not connect with the rod of the original Springlock model, as if they had been placed later, in addition, Burntrap's eyes are very similar to Torture Freddy's eyes from the Fnaf film, who is speculated to be a Springlock. We know that the eyes of Springbonnie (with William Afton), Springtrap and Scraptrap are gray, but in Burntrap they are purple, which leads me to believe that Burntrap does not have the spirit or soul of William Afton controlling him, but rather the program Glitchtrap, as if he were remotely controlling a physical body. With his discovery of the claw marks, it leads me to believe that Burntrap escaped, just as shown in the Fnaf SB trailer, where we see his hand outside the sinkhole. Regarding Burntrap's whereabouts, it is possible that he found the Amalgamolten (Blob), explaining how Blob suddenly started moving around inside the Pizzaplex.
    Any error or flaw you find in my theory, feel free to point it out!
    By the way, great video!

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +5

      Burntrap can’t be William corpse because William blows up his corpse in the man in room 1280

    • @AustinPlayzNothing
      @AustinPlayzNothing Před 12 dny +4

      @@Sonicmid fazbear frights isn’t in the same timeline

    • @AustinPlayzNothing
      @AustinPlayzNothing Před 12 dny

      Your argument with the handprint is flawed, because the handprint is a new asset which means stealeool had to make that asset during the creation of ruin. The asset likely had to be drawn with the intent of it being a mimic hand print.

    • @Starbear_Ent
      @Starbear_Ent Před 12 dny +3

      ​@@AustinPlayzNothing it is in the same timeline. Fnaf fans convinced they weren't because they don't like them.

    • @lordvik2259
      @lordvik2259 Před 12 dny +4

      @@AustinPlayzNothing Not really, the handmark is the same for both, Considering that both have the same hands, It is not unlikely that Steel Wool used the same handmark asset for different occasions. Not really a flaw, but just not enough evidence to prove or disprove the idea

  • @AdvSpringBonnie
    @AdvSpringBonnie Před 7 dny +1

    Something i want to mention is that in a Tales from the PizzaPlex epilouge, one of the exact plans to trap the mimic is to lure him into a room, escape through a vent, and seal the door. Of course it failed in the book and the bait person died, and the mimic escaped, but it could be a narrative parallel.

  • @Gaming_pro90
    @Gaming_pro90 Před 3 dny +1

    I don’t know if a lot of people saw this, but Glamrock Bonnie does not have an endoskeleton. like you can see his shell, but his endoskeleton is not there

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +34

    I definitely think mimic is burntrap and glitchtrap as well
    Mimic is literally the only endo in the basement and he can shapeshift his endo to fit any costume
    mimic ends his story with him getting springlocked and leaking oil And the first place we see burn trap is in a “recharge station”
    And burntrap couldn’t have been killed by tangle in ruin since the office is still intact and the burnttrap ending has tangled, destroy it
    And another thing is that Cassie goes down the elevator, however glamrock Freddy states the elevator is a one-way trip

    • @VOgaming51official
      @VOgaming51official Před 12 dny

      shave shift czcams.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f480.png

    • @GospodinWolf
      @GospodinWolf Před 11 dny +2

      Mimic ain't Glitchtrap

    • @theraptorblue6675
      @theraptorblue6675 Před 11 dny +2

      @@GospodinWolf he is

    • @ender01o66
      @ender01o66 Před 8 dny

      @@GospodinWolf I like how neither of you provided any evidence.

    • @GospodinWolf
      @GospodinWolf Před 8 dny

      @@ender01o66 Do I need to explain Vanny existing after Security Breach? Do I need to explain that Vanny killed Glitchtrap, which means Vanny is Mimic 1? Do I need to explain how purple theme that was in SB is seemingly gone in ruin, while main antagonists still exist? By last one I mean Mimic1 and The Mimic which was Burntrap, but Mimic1 killed Glitchtrap so he gained control and his knowledge of luring people. Do I?

  • @Darkfuryguy666
    @Darkfuryguy666 Před 12 dny +3

    but the mimic is alot more taller then burntrap? so.....does that mean burntrap some how got taller?....also did he just loos his bring bonnie suite along with his body flesh?

    • @Daniboy2550
      @Daniboy2550 Před 12 dny +10

      Yup, the Mimic can change his size in order to fit into suits accordingly, and also swap damaged body parts. As for the Burntrap suit, he might've removed it after Princess Quest 4 in HW2. Maybe he stopped mimicking William after Vanessa crushes Glitchtrap, but I'm not sure.

  • @Sejoseon
    @Sejoseon Před 12 dny +2

    Gregory the stuntman of the series
    Also great, can i add that the burntrap ending has a lot of parallels with into the pit "functionality" wise?
    Theres a pit, an organic springwilly, father figure almost gets kidnapped, springwilly dies by enTANGLEment, the event is hugely speculated to be an acid trip (by agony)

  • @Deb-dl6zw
    @Deb-dl6zw Před 7 dny

    dude this is so good i never actually look deep into the enviroment maybe i should. Keep it up!

  • @blueiron_yt
    @blueiron_yt Před 7 dny +12

    TLDR: Burntrap is the mimic

  • @Julia-sc2qb
    @Julia-sc2qb Před 4 dny +3

    Guys burntrap's eyes are black and the mimic's are white.

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 4 dny +1

      Thanks, this actually helps! The Mimic has the ability to change its eye color.

  • @ahmedmed8021
    @ahmedmed8021 Před 6 dny +1

    The only thing that still hasn't been commented on about Burntrap is: How does he have decaying flesh? on a sidenote, Burntrap's endoskeleton should've been a human skeleton with metal joints and wires and his suit could've been stitched up fabric to look like a rabbit

  • @TheRadioDemon892
    @TheRadioDemon892 Před 10 dny +1

    some people may think that just even though burntrap could very well be the mimic that that means that William isn't still around, he always comes back after all, but beside that William is a very strong spirit and can control more than just the spring bonnie suit as is seen in the fazbear frights books, thus meaning that he still can come back.

    • @namesmitt
      @namesmitt Před 10 dny +2

      You mean those same books that called him very weak and barely clinging on to life?

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 10 dny +2

      Those same books that kill him for good

  • @jolo6051
    @jolo6051 Před 12 dny +5

    I gotta say, you need more attention. You're underrated. And to me, Burntrap was just Glitchtrap being brought into the real world. We know Vanny worked under the control of Glitchtrap (which is either an entity using the Mimic's programming or an extension of the Mimic itself) and we know that Vanny went down into Freddy's Pizza Place several times. My guess was that she was building Burntrap out of the original corpse and several parts from within Pizzaplex animatronics. This body was created for Glitchtrap to take control over, which it does in the Burntrap ending, as signalled by Burntrap's purple eyes. That's how we know it isn't Afton since his eyes are silver while one of the most striking things about seeing Glitchtrap in Help Wanted and Security Breach was his glowing purple eyes. We get further confirmation this is the case since in one of the HW2 endings we see Glitchtrap coming out of a recharging pod, not too dissimilar to Burntrap exiting his pod in SB which kind of just further sements the idea. And it would make sense if this Mimic program mimicking Afton would tell Vanny to do this. After all, what better way to immitate William Afton than to actually use parts from the ORIGINAL William Afton?
    But the theory you posted holds more weight too as in the books it is stated that the Mimic can shapeshift its endoskeleton to fit any costume, meaning it could very well shapeshift to become Burntap. But there's still a very high possibility that Burntrap is just Glitchtrap's way of being brought into the real world. But if both these possibilities are equally likely considering there is substantial evidence to say that Burntrap is the Mimic and that Glitchtrap was using Burntrap to come into the real world as a physical entity, then we are left with the idea that the Mimic and Glitchtrap are one in the same. But... they're not. At least not at first glance.
    I personally think that Glitchtrap was working with the original Mimic since Glitchtrap is using the same or similar software. The Mimic is kind of using an extension of itself that just HAPPENS to be mimicking Afton to control the Pizzaplex and help it escape. Plus, if Glitchtrap is immitating Afton and the Mimic is programmed to essentially spread mindless violence, then that would kind of mean that both Glitchtrap and the Mimic's goals align pretty well in terms of motive and I think both entities are smart enough to know how to work together. But then, as seen in HW2, Vanny gets rid of Glitchtrap, thereby freeing herself and cutting off the Mimic's control over the Pizzaplex and everything in it. But I don't think Glitchtrap was just killed off. I think that Glitchtrap was REPURPOSED.
    My headcanon at the moment is that Vanny's crushing of Glitchtrap is symbolic of Glitchtrap's programming being removed and I believe that what was left of the Glitchtrap program actually became the MXES program. After all, it takes the form of a bluish-purple rabbit and has a great deal of control over the digitial world and can influence the animatronics to act, similar to Glitchtrap did. And I think the way it looks is more evidence of that. It looks more like a ghost that's broken up, representative of how Glitchtrap was essentially taken apart to be reused and I don't doubt that Vanessa or Gregory could reprogram it to do this and it could have all been done with that MXES machine we see down in the basement. Plus, the way it moves in contrast to Glitchtrap is further evidence of this. Glitchtrap in Help Wanted starts off moving very jittery and laggy but then becomes smoother and more realistic as we piece him together and his final form looks realistic and human-like, showing its development. And then there's MXES which still takes the basic form of a rabbit but is now much more digitised with a less defined model and it moves in a laggy and broken state. And we know that the MXES program that was formally Glitchtrap can be controlled as we see it become trapped inside the machine in RUIN, showing just how much it has lost its power and is now restricted to its security nodes.
    So I don't think Glitchtrap is GONE, I just think that he was reprogrammed after essentially having all the power stripped from him in SB with Princess Quest. He is now repourpsed to hide the very thing that he might have been working with. After all, it's just a program. Once you delete some code, you're left with a blank slate. What better way to deal with an enemy than to make it your ally? After all, Glitchtrap as a Mimic program was only doing what it was programmed to do - mimic whatever it was exposed to which was Afton. But THE Mimic? It as a physical entity and being a much older piece of technology from decades ago is not so easily controlled.
    But what do you think?

  • @cenobittten
    @cenobittten Před 12 dny +16

    A very convincing theory. I like how you went over the evidence. Personally I disagree because the endoskeleton torsos are so very different but I credit your narrative regardless

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 12 dny +8

      Glad you enjoyed the Video!

    • @Pizza-Supremacy
      @Pizza-Supremacy Před 12 dny

      The mimic tends to not just switch out costumes, but also switch the endoskeletons. Therefore, this theory is actually a very convincing one.

    • @Starbear_Ent
      @Starbear_Ent Před 12 dny +1

      The Mimic was described to look like Burntrap's endo in the Tales from the Pizzaplex Epilogues, rabbit ears included. That might convince you

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 12 dny

      The endos being different rlly don't matter when epplouge mimic matches burntrap

    • @cenobittten
      @cenobittten Před 10 dny

      @@Pizza-Supremacy I get your point but the endoskeleton is totally different stylistically. Burntraps is a more modern, springlock suit with comparatively very little metal whereas the game Mimic's is bulky and makeshift and looks like it was built a very long time ago. While I can see a mimic replacing some of its own limbs, short of transferring its head onto a whole new body post-SB (where did it find these older parts?) I just can't see that as a solution. I say this as someone who has read The Mimic and the epilogues (neither of which have the mimic fixing itself or switching parts).

  • @darealdreamlessdude
    @darealdreamlessdude Před 7 dny +1

    I KNEW BURNTRAP WAS THE MIMIC! BUT NOBODY BELIEVED ME 😭
    Lmfao

  • @BlackRaveBow
    @BlackRaveBow Před 7 dny

    A big part of me still thinks that they originally meant for Afton to come back and saw the public backlash, then changed it to the mimic between ruin.

  • @eljasson100mugman
    @eljasson100mugman Před 12 dny +3

    Burntrap is Mimic. In epilogue 7 of Tales From the pizzaplex it is mentioned that Mimic puts on a rat suit and also in Ruin we see animal suits (mimic like the rat suit and so on). That means that Mimic changed suits as we see in Ruin, Lucia in epilogue 8 turns off Mimic and we assume that Vanny activates it again since Glitchtrap is the Mimic_1 program (the one that appears in Tiger Rock, The Monty Within and GGY ) activates it and Mimic enters the recharging cabin and here we have everything (Mimic changing his suit), possibly when Blood swallowed Burntrap possibly Mimic put on his suit imitating William, his original design is shown and we have Ruin's Gameplay .

  • @gabrielbridge-sp9mq
    @gabrielbridge-sp9mq Před 6 dny +5

    good theory.............BUT if you paid attention burntrap's charging station door was not open. if burntrap IS the mimic and the door opened before the power for it shut off, the door would be wide open. That door was not open. so there is a high chance burntrap is still in there. and as gregory says the mimic has been down there for years. that would have been before burntrap was made cause in ruin Gregory and cassie haven't aged a day. so yes I do think that Gregory knew about burntrap, but he never interacted with it so it would have never been activated. I rest my case for now

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 6 dny +2

      The charging station is empty in Ruin. As well, we see that the door shuts automatically when we play as Gregory. It probably just shut after the mimic left it.

    • @gabrielbridge-sp9mq
      @gabrielbridge-sp9mq Před 5 dny

      @@at_witts_end3470 ok but how would that explain the 2 different head shapes hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 5 dny +1

      @@gabrielbridge-sp9mq there isn't 2 different head shapes. One has a human skull on it, covering the head. The other is just the Endo head, with a bit of bone attached.

    • @gabrielbridge-sp9mq
      @gabrielbridge-sp9mq Před 5 dny +1

      @@at_witts_end3470 thing is.........that isn't bone on the mimic that is dirt

  • @kacperkopera4101
    @kacperkopera4101 Před 7 dny +1

    ngl, i love that afton actually died at ffps, it just makes the ending (fpps's one) so much better since we know that it actually killed william

  • @Rajd_is
    @Rajd_is Před 3 dny +2

    1:53 Not really. Because the main "argument" for PQ ending was Free Vanny and a sword in Arcade machine in Vanny's hideout
    However Help Wanted 2 shows that this might not be the case, because to free Vanny we had to defeat ALL games about this princess, and HW2 reveals that part 3 wasn't the last one

  • @KamdynDoty-Balch
    @KamdynDoty-Balch Před 7 dny +4

    You can not convince me that Mimic and Burntrap are the same entity. LOOK AT THEM. And, Mimic acts nothing like William.

  • @funtimefredboi4456
    @funtimefredboi4456 Před 12 dny +3

    I really enjoy the concept of The Mimic honestly.... I really didn't feel like dealing with Rotten British Rabbit anymore....

    • @andreix4025
      @andreix4025 Před 11 dny

      The funny thing is we thought se were Still dealing with those since 2017,but yeah the devs Got up hand on that

  • @dominichill8037
    @dominichill8037 Před 7 dny +1

    I completely forgot about Burntrap lol

  • @darkhumour741
    @darkhumour741 Před 10 dny +1

    Theory - Mimic’s replacement arm and foot in Ruin came from one of the mass produced Mimics referenced in the Tales epilogues
    Mimic’s room not only has old costumes he or his clones presumably wore, but Steel Wool confirmed in John Fuhnaff’s interview the MXES machine was intentionally designed to look old. What if Fazbear Ent used that room and MXES to contain/destroy the Mimic 2 endos?

  • @SapsTraposo
    @SapsTraposo Před 12 dny +5

    thats cool, but if they make glitchtrap being the mimic ill quit the game

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +2

      So uh
      Glitchtrap mimics
      The silver parasol logo
      Tape girl
      Bonbon
      And glam rockFreddy, getting jumped in the bad ending of VR 2
      And also mimicking the ending of Princess quest 3 in princess quest 4
      Steelwood interview also confirms that vanny kill him so that means he’s not a soul
      It might be over bro

    • @AustinPlayzNothing
      @AustinPlayzNothing Před 12 dny +4

      Glitch trap was already pretty much confirmed to be the mimic

    • @Sonicmid
      @Sonicmid Před 12 dny +1

      @@AustinPlayzNothing yeah Vanny kills glitchtrap in vr2 according to steel wool in the interview
      That’s basically glitch mimic confirmation because how is Vanny supposed to kill a soul?

    • @TheJonkler1
      @TheJonkler1 Před 12 dny

      @@Sonicmid I mean not really.The last remains could've escaped and turned into Helpi but Helpitrap is kind of a slippery slope

  • @wilymoto6501
    @wilymoto6501 Před 12 dny +15

    The Burntrap model was one of the first to be designed, and Burntrap and The Mimic are almost nothing alike.
    The Mimic bears the same resemblance to Burntrap as it does to Nightmare Chica.

    • @wafagdplqs4421
      @wafagdplqs4421 Před 12 dny +6

      Considering the Mimic is both an endoskeleton AND an IA programme. I believe Burntrap (and by extension Glitchtrap) is just a version of the Mimic programme used to mimic Afton and Burntrap's body is a combiantion of a Glamrock endo (the Glamrocks endos being basically modernized Mimics), William burned a d rotten (and definitively dead) corpse, and some of the original Mimic's part. However if we consider the Princess Quest ending as canon, and it seems to be the case, this project of giving Glitchtrap a physical body wasn't completed because Vanessa was freed from his influence. At least that's my interpretation of it all.

    • @VOgaming51official
      @VOgaming51official Před 12 dny +4

      burntrap has a few things from nightmare animatronics, like a few of n.BB's fingers and...well, the hands. the only similarity I can definatively see between the two is that one hand, and even then there's a difference. Also, I'm pretty sure the mimic model is taller than burntrap anyway.
      The mimic's head is also to big to fit into burntrap's mask without clipping, let alone fit in the skull. The demeanor between the two is also extremly different.
      Through out ruin the mimic is shown to be impaitient, sure he's using Gregory's voice but he doesn't become Gregory, which is what the theory of burntrap = mimic hinges on. Afton finally dying after that "boss fight" would be fine if it felt like more.
      Granted, I wouldn't mind him being a background presence from then on, but that's the writers'/writer's choice. Hell, mimic being burntrap would've been fine (to me) if it made sense, character, design, and story wise.
      anyway, sorry for ranting.
      TL;DR: mimic being burntrap doesn't make sense because ruin shows us he wouldn't change his personality just his voice. Also, the mimic model is to big to fit into burntrap.

    • @AustinPlayzNothing
      @AustinPlayzNothing Před 12 dny

      Where did you hear burntrap was one of the first to be designed

    • @Starbear_Ent
      @Starbear_Ent Před 12 dny +4

      The Mimic was described like Burntrap's endo in the Tales from the Pizzaplex Epilogues, rabbit ears included. Most people skip this part because they don't like this reveal.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 12 dny

      Burntrap is a huge asset flip. He doesnt rlly matter

  • @fanfywriter8727
    @fanfywriter8727 Před 8 dny

    Wow you noticed a lot of really big evidence pieces that.... others just didn't. Good job.

  • @Bedbuggs
    @Bedbuggs Před dnem +1

    What even is the mimic 😭😭

  • @chibk
    @chibk Před 12 dny +30

    modern fnaf is actually so underrated😭the way the story is told is so peak

  • @sophitiaofhyrule
    @sophitiaofhyrule Před 12 dny +5

    I don't dislike the concept of the Mimic. With how AI is dangerously growing currently, a monster that's an AI is a terrifying concept. But I hate that the Mimic retcons Glitchtrap and Burntrap. "It was an AI all along" seems like a desperate attempt at satisfying critics who got frustrated at Afton coming back. Also Glitchtrap and Mimic don't act the same at all... Glitchtrap can possess people and is smart and calculated, while the Mimic is impulsive and blows his cover almost immediately. The current story of FNAF sucks ass and I hate it, which is a shame because I like some of the elements a lot (The Pizzaplex, Vanny/Vannessa, Gregory, Cassie and the Glamrocks to name a few). It reeks of the writers just making stuff up as they went along. Nothing is clear, nothing makes sense, nothing means anything and anything can be retconned at any moment.

  • @damienradymskylanders3421

    But still, what about the corpse? In the whole spring Bonnie suit I don’t think the corpse could just magically get off and still I don’t think the mimic could even wear a corpse because it doesn’t even look like they were trying with the head.

  • @Toaster844
    @Toaster844 Před 7 hodinami

    The lore in the newer FNAF games has so much going on I can’t tell even tell what is going on. Especially the whole thing with Burntrap and the Mimic

  • @daviddimitrov3696
    @daviddimitrov3696 Před 10 dny +6

    OMG! Burntrap is NOT the mimic, I'm SO TIRED of all these people literally saying things that are clearly wrong, the mimic and burntrap don't even look alike at all, screw the arm all the rest of the endo doesn't fit and the teeth aren't the same, besides the mimic would not have SEEN afton to mimic him and the mimic's head would NOT fit in that corpse head.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 10 dny +5

      1. Mimic can change his sizes to fit in any suit and corpse
      2. The teeth are covered by the corpse
      3. Springtrap and Scraptrap look nothing alike yet there the same

    • @daviddimitrov3696
      @daviddimitrov3696 Před 10 dny +1

      @@ZavoyHarwood still the mimic can't just fit in a corpse and still would have no way to observe a man who'se been dead for who knows how long

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 10 dny +1

      @@daviddimitrov3696 hw is about afton mimic was put in there then starts mimcking.
      Mimic can just fit into a corpse by resizing his body

    • @at_witts_end3470
      @at_witts_end3470 Před 10 dny +1

      ​@@daviddimitrov3696Mimic was around since the early year of FE, and there's even some hints he had a role in FNaF 2, 4, SL, and the Fall Fest fire.
      There's a part where the mimic crawls into someone's back like a mascot costume in the books.

    • @Under_Score
      @Under_Score  Před 10 dny +3

      Y’all forget the mimic can shapeshift and definitely could fit into the the corpse

  • @jorgyt754
    @jorgyt754 Před 12 dny +6

    burntrap is william afton you cannot change my mind.

    • @ZavoyHarwood
      @ZavoyHarwood Před 12 dny +1

      He's the .mimic

    • @theraptorblue6675
      @theraptorblue6675 Před 11 dny +2

      bro,even games tell you,william dead,forget him already,afton lover

    • @Personian
      @Personian Před 8 dny +1

      Bro would still be in denial if Scott himself said Burntrap wasn’t Afton

    • @ZacharyWaldo
      @ZacharyWaldo Před 8 dny

      @@Personianfr

    • @ZacharyWaldo
      @ZacharyWaldo Před 8 dny

      People need to accept the facts the mimic is both burntrap and glitchtrap now

  • @ToonKitty_MEOW_MEOW
    @ToonKitty_MEOW_MEOW Před 6 dny

    Thank you you are rilly good at explaining theorys

  • @AloneTheorist
    @AloneTheorist Před 4 dny

    As of Ruin, the underground was undergoing renovation. This was pointed out by Helpi, which explains why there's nothing there, the renovation work and eventual sealing of the mimic caused all viable fazbear property to be removed from that area, hence the many construction materials, tools and access routes passed through to reach there. Also help wanted 2 had a cutscene that appeared to show burntrap's pod before a mob of nightmare staffbots turn the player's character into maskbot. Meaning burntap still has a canon element even if his ending isn't.

  • @casitos
    @casitos Před 12 dny

    Great video!

  • @Springlocks-Hurt
    @Springlocks-Hurt Před 4 dny +1

    Hey human MXES! I would like to point out that the burrow could also be from DJ Music Man. He was pretty broken when I played the game and he was definitely leaking oil

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Před 9 dny +1

    Honestly, on their way down to the Pizza Place Gregory and Vanessa probably saw The Blob escape the sinkhole before luring and trapping Burntrap/Mimic in the costume room. Then once he was sealed Vanessa set up the MXES terminal while Gregory drew the Burntrap Ending panel, incorporating the two monstrous robots he had just encountered.

  • @Iwidelyoutliveeverything

    doesn't make the mimic any less terrible of a story element. Rugpulling Afton is worse than him magically still being alive.

  • @quintonheimann
    @quintonheimann Před 12 dny +1

    slight correction, burntrap was made before the shatered glamrocks and the music men were made

  • @Chicken1997
    @Chicken1997 Před 8 dny +1

    I really like this theory, and I think it might be canon. But, if Burntrap was really the Mimic (Which I would be happy about because that makes Fnaf 6 relevant to the timeline) how would we add all the human corpse stuff? How could he fit a whole gosh darn skull on his head?

  • @IxodesPersulcatus
    @IxodesPersulcatus Před 4 dny

    The flesh on the Burntrap's body is badly burnt, but it's far "meatier" than that of William Afton, who at that point had been incinerated at least twice, and is missing a good number of his teeth.
    Could it be that the Mimic made a "costume" of "William Afton" out of Michael's body? That would be three for three for "They thought I was You"

  • @Ahyes1
    @Ahyes1 Před 6 dny

    I thought just by looking at the hand we could already tell

  • @Slacker-e
    @Slacker-e Před 6 dny

    I didnt learn anything, I already knew mimic was squilliam afton just cuz they have multiple resemblances but it was entertaining as hell keep up the work lol

  • @someguy7174
    @someguy7174 Před 6 dny

    I figured it out. After the fire in fnaf 6, old boy Willy said, “I don’t want to come back but I will always come back” he was left in a very harsh condition so he went and roamed around and jumped across the fnaf multiverses and rebuilt himself. If any character were to have that power, you know it be William Afton.

  • @NolanTeslich9
    @NolanTeslich9 Před 8 dny

    This a GREAT theory and it clears up some of my questions about this lore

  • @teroristi6107
    @teroristi6107 Před 8 dny

    I couldn't believe this theory at first, but concrete evidence is hard to argue against.

  • @Gingersnap_Adventures
    @Gingersnap_Adventures Před 8 dny +1

    Wait what happened to the rest of burn traps suit from spring Bonnie and his flesh? Also something I think Game Theory said once is that the Mimic and Burntraps models don’t match up, still tho great theory. 👍

  • @Baran_124
    @Baran_124 Před 7 dny

    You made great points about the envorinmental story telling. Earned a sub 😁

  • @themaskedshark
    @themaskedshark Před 8 dny +2

    So steel wool didnt know how too explain burntrap so they came up with a whole different character just too solve it?

    • @Personian
      @Personian Před 8 dny +1

      No, The Mimic is Scott’s creation, since he wrote the lore. Steel Wool has no involvement in actually writing the lore
      Plus Mimic was a planned addition since 2019

    • @themaskedshark
      @themaskedshark Před 8 dny +1

      @@Personian oh so they used one of Scott's old book characters too explain burntrap

    • @longfishy
      @longfishy Před 8 dny

      ​@@Personian Yes SWS actually creates all of the lore since UCN. They just run all their ideas by through Scott and he either agrees with the idea or shards some light on what he wants them to change.

    • @Personian
      @Personian Před 8 dny +1

      @@longfishy Steel Wool literally has nothing to do with modern FNAF lore, they just do what Scott says, where the hell did you get this information from.

    • @Personian
      @Personian Před 8 dny +1

      @@themaskedshark No, Scott is in charge of everything that happens in the games, although he himself does not make them

  • @ethangoesvroomyt
    @ethangoesvroomyt Před 9 dny

    The environmental story telling is so fricken cool in fnaf sb and ruin! Like the claw marks in ruin left by Roxy, or the backpack in the basement. Very cool.

  • @joaosa9418
    @joaosa9418 Před dnem

    I made a theory about burntrap out of nowhere. You see, when burntrap appears in the recharging station there is something like gas coming out of it, so my theory is that if gregory and freddy went there, maybe gregory would be allucinating like in William Afton's experiments with gas and kids and he would see mimic as william afton presence. I know, such a crappy theory

  • @alejotassile6441
    @alejotassile6441 Před 16 hodinami

    This recton was a last minute Scott fix, he's an expert on patching the lore and it's clear that was the intention, to fix what steel wool did haha

  • @Nobody-hr4gt
    @Nobody-hr4gt Před 4 dny

    I find it odd that the claw mark closer to Gregorys backpack faces outward and the one closer to the mimic faces the opposite way. But you could always say Gregory/Vanessa pushed him in there causing the vent to collapse, causing him to climb out the other way ig

  • @tea0w0stache
    @tea0w0stache Před 4 dny +1

    speaking of environmental storytelling, isnt that EXACTLY what fnaf 1 does?? 👀

  • @thisguyslifeisroblox
    @thisguyslifeisroblox Před 8 dny

    Damn, this is a good theorist never would've known that.

  • @Polaroid-vb1ll
    @Polaroid-vb1ll Před 8 dny

    I like your PFP, your sona, or whatever it is, and, you kept my attention all the way through, good job, I have problems with that, so yeah!

  • @tapwater4425
    @tapwater4425 Před 7 dny

    Me thinking that Afton was FINALLY gone: “no… no! NOOOOOOOOOOO!”

  • @damiaH1260
    @damiaH1260 Před 8 dny

    This Is Really good Love this alot 💜