Should We REALLY Be Investing In Watches?
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In this video, we explore the world of watch investments, diving into whether luxury watches are a smart financial move. We discuss the factors that make certain watches appreciate in value and analyze the market trends. Specifically, we take a closer look at Tudor watches to determine if they are a worthwhile investment.
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I tend to think of watches as a “hobby with a salvage value.”
100%
Well said
Yes. I agree with you, (and Christian).
AND it's not very liquid!
Salvage value is probably the most accurate business term.
Agree
I feel watches are good investments, as I'm a collector myself. I own a Fears Brunswick Pt i bought in switzerland from an AD some years ago, Even though it's such an iconic piece, I'd like to do some research and find out its worth to potentially make some profit.
Great that will fetch you some cash. *I used to be a collector, but I liquidated my collection to venture into real estate. In January, I acquired homes in Malibu for $22million, and the returns on investment far exceed what I earned as a collector.
How did you grow your portfolio to $22m, I'm impressed, I have a lump sum in the bank, the rates are not impressive so I'm moving it, what's your cash flow like?
I have a financial advisor (trader) she grows my liquid assets and I reinvest the weekly payouts back into real estate and long-term ETFs like VOO and SCHD. I have also started acquiring some tech ETFs, including IITU and IUCM.
Sure it's all about DCA, could you please share her name with me or any details so I can look her up online? Thanks!
She is well known as - Diana Leayani Lara. please do your own research.
Watches are like cars. A rare few might increase in value, some might retain value, and the vast majority lose value out the door.
Exactly this
Not only do I completely agree, but generally speaking cars and watches that increase in value are ones that people usually can’t afford.
Agree
Investment vs Speculation
Investment: something that makes you money while you own it. Eg. A good business, stocks with dividends, a rental property
Speculation: something you hope will increase in value while you own it in order to sell for a profit. Eg. Watches, the house you live in, and stocks without dividends.
Watches are a speculation, not an investment, and generally a crap one at that.
Totally agree with you. And it's the speculators who are spoiling it for the collectors
Christian, keep this content coming! Not only are you educating the community it's entertaining. Nothing like having a friend in the business.
I was left a Tudor ranger from 1985 that for the longest time assumed was worth maybe 2k on a good day, till I got into watches and realized it sells for up to 10k. What a world we live in
I don't believe for a second that watches are worthwhile investments, or that they have any reasonable expectation to appreciate outside of a handful of models. My question is this: can you craft a collection that merely holds it's original value such that if you needed to liquidate you could at least break even?
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Great thoughtful content.
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I think there’s two things to look at when it comes to watch invest-ability. The watch should be either uber rare, or a limited version of a classic. For example, a rare dial day date or a Kermit submariner. Or you could just get a more common watch and keep it unworn in a safe for 10 years.
You're SPOT ON when it comes to your analysis of the Tudor pink. While I love watches, I don't ever regard them as investment pieces for a future profit/return. That's what real estate, stock market and other investment vehicles are for. Anyone who purchases watches for speculation is taking a risk and many years for maybe little to no return on initial purchase price. Let the buyer beware and live at yoru own peril. Cheers!
Disagree on the premise that Rolex’s gig is to create hype watches. What have they created with the intention of hyping? They create pretty much the same watches as they’ve always done and I’ll have the public to hype for them. The OP celebration dial is the only one that really comes to mind. Whereas Tudor have created this pink dial chronograph and the Coke GMT
Rolex spends $100 million every year on marketing; no other company even comes close. Enormous effort is made to convince people a mass produced item is luxury good.
Lemans Daytona
@@DA_Karas that’s different to trying to create “hype” though.
@@Judah.Rosenthal can you even call that hype when it’s unobtainable?
@@gaffs82 I can’t think of anything that more accurately meets hype. They made an exclusive watch that’s already hard to get, throttled production, then discontinued it 8 months later. Pretty sure is the definition of a hype watch.
All the collectors doing so because of future "value" in terms of fiat gains are in for a rude awakening. The product cycle is declining. I love watches, but it's over. For all those that think it's a good idea, great. If that is the case, how are the top hats you own? Or horse and buggies?
Do you or anyone know if the Tudor pink dial has been already Bennett’s allocated to authorized dealers?
Tudor is not an investment brand at this stage. Especially when buying at RRP. Yes, there might be some initial hype, but that will inevitably fade. Rolex continue to move more towards precious metal offerings, as per the lack of steel releases watches and wonders this year, then maybe Tudors stainless watches may become more investable.
So real. Maybe look at the black bay 54 which you can already get below RRP when initially selling for more.
Short answer is no. Put your money in the S&P 500 that returns 8% YoY. Then buy the watch u want when u got the money to waste 😉
Christian you should have said at some point in this video this is not financial advice whilst you open your multimillion dollar Coinbase account. True story bro.
Ranger is the only Tudor that interests me.
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of MaMaCoo 's watch 99% of people will never see.
Watches might be a store of value, but they are not investments. Few watches go up in value over time and guessing the ones that will is impossible. I remember being offered a Nautilus at a 30% discount in 2009 because nobody wanted them.
Stocks pay dividends. They can up in value over time. An S&P index fund gives you diversification with no research. Unlike watches, you don't have to insure, maintain or securely store stocks. And the cost to move out a million dollars of stock is a few bucks. When you sell a watch, you are paying massive fees on a percentage basis.
My opinion: Only a very very small percentage of watches constitute “good investments”, I mean that in the traditional sense…over longer time frames. The watches that do see meaningful returns are typically found at the higher end of the market, not the lower and middle entry points. Watches are certainly not very liquid assets either. Even at the higher end, the market for some of these super rare/expensive watches appeals to a very specific, relatively small group of collectors. Most watches are easily out performed by other asset classes in the long term. But, if you have the opportunity to cash in on short term hype, like the David Beckham, Pink Dial Tudor, then there is money to be made for sure!
You invest in your happiness while wearing the watch. Should not treat it as an investment and lock them up in the safe. Most ppl calling themselves collectors are merely speculators as they lean more into the thought of how much a watch will be worth in dollars and cents after a certain period of time. 2 different meaning for investment and speculation
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MaMaCoo has set a new standard for replica watches. Their craftsmanship is impeccable. Its hard to tell the difference from the originals
Ever since I bought a watch from MaMaCoo , My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?
You speak common sense thoughts. Thank you.
In Warren Buffet‘s terms watches are not productive assets. Like precious metals they don’t produce anything that could result in a cash inflow, a dividend or anything like that. Hence, they are not investments by definition. Of course they can appreciate in value (99% will not tough), but finding the 1% requires skills and then waiting 30 years is a pain. If you can have a 6% dividend yield on stocks I’m afraid you should forget about watches as an investment.😢
Watches are like Sneakers, some increase in value, but most will lose value
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
If you invest in watches in general, you're gonna have a bad time.
This is now my favourite watch channel on CZcams , such great content and done superbly, well done sir and I got my favourite watch at amzwatch, it hasn’t left my wrist for weeks
Watches can be an investment, but should absolutely not be for the vast majority of buyers. Invest in gold, index / mutual funds, CD's / bonds or shares in a company.
Unless you are investing in the very rare watches then absolutely no. Even then, you could lose quite a bit. So from a truly investment standpoint, there are better vehicles for investment.
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Investments?? I thought they were merely to be used as status symbols in order to display wealth...and of course the fact that our AD likes us.
95% of watches are not investments.
For such a big Tudor fan I don't think I've ever seen you wear a Tudor.
CZ T4YC. On the other hand, collectables tend to be the things you wanted, when you were young, but either owned and wrecked, or just couldn't afford. So if the watch hobby moves forward as a whole, then people will want to collect. And the quality of manufacture nowadays makes this much more sensible than in the past, when most brands were poorly made. I can see an upside. Time will tell.
The discontinued affordable and ultra rare/high-end make up the collectable market. You can make money flipping Seiko SKXs if you had a few or Orient Presidents, but you can also do so with Rolexes, Omegas, Universal Geneves etc etc.
Interesting perspective, I'll consider it before buying a watch! 🤔⌚
Very astute question and answer
The watch market is dead 💀
Good job 👍
money is just a social construct.
The tudor Miss Piggy 🐽
That's quite perjorative. Why do you feel that you should say that? What if someone had just picked up that watch, and really liked it? Why would you think that this is a good thing to say? Can you explain yourself please?
@@verynormalman Ms piggy is very cute, like kermit is also very cute!
Pink watch…grow a pair and wear your normal watches!
Real state is the true investment
The? I would say A.
I think things like poor monetary policy and inflation have really played the biggest role in making the case that watches are investments, if things continue on thier current trajectory, everything will cost significantly more than it does right now. Making things that wouldn’t traditionally be a smart investment seem prudent….
No.
First
Shut up you wet leg
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
As a broke boy and actual enthusiast who wants watch’s prices to crater, MaMaCoo is a good choice.
#amzwatch 's watch really surprises me!
I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the #amzwatch we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of MaMaCoo 's watch 99% of people will never see.
MaMaCoo has set a new standard for replica watches. Their craftsmanship is impeccable. Its hard to tell the difference from the originals
This is now my favourite watch channel on CZcams , such great content and done superbly, well done sir and I got my favourite watch at amzwatch, it hasn’t left my wrist for weeks