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#you don't crave solitude it just feels better and it's just like energy as well as even if somebody was understanding or understanding of you basically then they should accept basically no or yes or hello goodbye not know oh I smoke weed and I chill with Genghis Khan like we'll smoke weed then and go rape somebody
It is very possible to have both qualities. I have always displayed qualities of both the Sigma and the Empath. The side of me that greets you depends on who you are!
Used to be more of an empath, now more of a sigma, as I am far more discerning through my experiences, who I deem to be worthy of my time and attention. I have learned to look after me first, I deserve it.
I once was an infj empath, but as I've gotten older, I've definitely changed....sometimes I feel cold & distant...I just want to vibe alone & unbothered....I remember I once struggled to hold back the tide of human suffering that would come to me via the souls that would drift into my life......deep exhaustion & disillusionment changed me....now I watch the tide roll in from the top of extremely high walls.....I see people drifting into dark water & I remain silent....I am no longer the lighthouse of comfort & direction....the very few people in my life are my only concern, if I'm fussing with you about what you're doing, then you can be sure that I adore you & you live within the walls of my heart....the fate & comfort of these few people is like a knife in my heart, I am so invested in them....I can't take anyone else in, I need peace. This vid gave me so much clarity & comfort, because sometimes when you're "sigma" you feel like you have a dark heart.
Reading this in tears! I am in a storm right now in my life, so many changes. And reading this makes me feel sane! Makes me feel that I am making the right decision even when I am also feeling like the bad guy because I am putting myself first! Thank you for sharing!
A sigma was once this empath you're saying. Once E decides that she/he wants to end co-dependency & has now a bulletproof personal boundaries, then now she's an S. We can always go back though if when we read you, we like the energy you're emitting
It is very situational. There are certain factors and environments that cause us to lean towards different tendencies. I find myself leaning towards either/or. For example, I own the tendency to be a healer, but i adopt the other behavioral pattern when i go through abuse. I think it’s an adaptation matter, while also having root behavioral patterns that may make one ‘between the lines’ of an INFJ Sigma/Empath. Good attempt to define us though!
I think it is also possible to transition from one to the other over the course of a lifetime, more specifically from empath to sigma. Of course I am saying this based on my own life experience, so take it with a grain of salt.
I agree with all your comments,lol and I definitely see the sigma more after 5yrs of healing from 7yrs of narc abuse and many more yrs of allowing peeps to take advantage. God bless 🙏
Agreed. 100%. It’s very much situational for me and somewhat dependent on my inner reserves. It also depends upon with who(m) I’m interacting. Is it someone I perceive is a routine complainer whose suffering is predominantly a direct result of their habitual short-sighted and often poor choices? As in, do they routinely blame others for the majority of their suffering? Do they refuse to accept any oneness in their ability to at least make some different decisions? I’ve lived long enough that I’ve learned that my empathy isn’t wisely invested in trying to help people with this sort of mindset. I suppose I’m more ‘sigma’ around people like this in order to keep myself from being drained. My patience for this sort of thing is rather short, and I can come off fairly no-nonsense, blunt, terse, and sometimes even cold. I used to be a bleeding heart for literally everyone, but I’ve been fortunate enough to learn some critical life lessons regarding how to better invest my energy (empathy) and time. After 4 years of twice weekly trauma therapy with a clinical psychologist, I learned to stop trying to ‘fix’ others and to instead carefully select the types of people with which I’d prefer to surround myself. I learned what I can control and how my own choices can shape the quality of my life. I’m a reformed people-pleaser. I simply don’t cater to people who are looking to play games, be enabled, or scatter eggshells everywhere. In fact, I’ve noticed that I seem to even repel them now to a fair extent. I don’t have to be mean, cruel, rude, or disrespectful. Just rational, direct, and consistent. This has all been life-changing for the better.
As INFJ Empath I learned to may feel "tired". That was a hard lesson because I was totally exhausted by listening to other people and trying to feel them happy without listening to my own needs. After the great psychological breakdown I got more balanced by saying more "no" to people. In the beginning this felt "wrong" because it felt unnatural. By getting older I know "saying no" is the answer to achieve more respect, a value that everyone deserves.
I am glad that there are Sigma INFJs out there in the world. I tend to lose myself trying to maintain social harmony and support of the group. When I watch a video like this, it helps me center myself and love myself.
I think it is definitely possible to have both qualities. By default, I embody sigma qualities but when I have to go into the world or work in a team, I then use empath abilities.
I believe being an Empath is my root, and developing into a stronger, more aware Empath, happened after I matured, to understand myself and others traits better (I can’t save everyone or everything) I have to save myself before I can help others.
EnnVee, seeing your comment reminds me of my Ex telling me all the time " Alex you're Not Jesus" damn i feel a burden I most mature, balance this urge to sacrifice all for others and forgetting about myself...
In answer to your question, yes, I believe it is entirely possible for an INFJ to have both qualities. I personally am more of a Sigma, but I can use the empathetic side too.
Definitely INFJ empath. I havent had to take a test, I've always known something was different about me. The way I wake up and just want to help people while also being too scared to fully be myself because of what others may think and knowing they'll never be able to understand why I think the way I do. Doesn't change the love I have for everyone and everything living in the universe
I started out Sigma at a younger age, became more empath...now becoming more sigma again. Maybe do to life experiences or just finding balance in both.
If You have INFJ in front of any title that automatically equals paradox. We are, and then we arent. This topic, apparently is no different. I think we can be the empath AND can be Sigma I want to inspire people...until I dont feel like it and want to be alone. 60/40empath sigma Have yourselves a deep day. Make it count
@@fazblakk997 David Badurina (INFJ) channel...has a community post tab where the most recent is a bunch of cat faces to gauge mood...I'm a 3 today lol. You? czcams.com/users/DavidBadurina
@@sojourneroftheland I'm feeling like 4. He looks like he doesn't know where....but some bs is coming from someone at some time.....soon. sheesh....lol.
I am definitely an empath at heart. I found out about my being a male INFJ about two years ago and it really opened up my eyes to why I feel the way I do about almost everything. But the big part of me that craves to help people, I saw this as an opposite to my other INFJ characteristics. Now I better understand and this has cleared a lot up for me. I am different from many in that I used to be much more a Sigma. But several health related, near death experiences have made me much more of the empath in nature. And much of my initial impression of you will decide which who I become to you. Show me you are about helping yourself and my empath side shows up. Show me you are a fake or that you do not care about yourself and the old sigma me comes roaring out to quickly to call you out and shut that door.
Yes it is possible to have both qualities as an INFJ. I am mostly a Sigma INFJ but I do have some qualities that make me an "Empath" INFJ. The empath part of me has been working on perfecting my craft in singing, guitar, drums and bass since I was around 19. I originally started out wanting to be a famous rockstar because all the metal bands I listened to looked so cool up on stage with the crowd going crazy to their music. However as time went on I began to mature and realize none of that mattered and that the only thing that mattered was what I thought of myself. After I started to become this way and trying to motivate others to be better people and realize just how special they were I started to realize that something was wrong, everyone was unhappy and found out suicide was one of the leading causes of death, making it technically an epidemic. From that day on I decided that I was going to make music not for myself but for everyone else who had ever been neglected and betrayed by family or society like I had. I was going to make music that inspired people and made them realize that they were special, that their life had meaning and above all else, if they literally had no one else to love them, that I loved them. My goal is to release this music for free and maybe stop some people from committing suicide. "Emo" and "Goth" people like myself are the ones I will be mainly focusing on by playing different genre's of Hard Rock / Metal because they are the ones that need love that most. Alternative people become like this from feeling like outcasts and that no one cares about us. Just thinking about my mission in my mind and imagining children, teenagers and adults feeling like someone finally understands them and loves them for who they are, no matter who they are or what they have done will bring them joy in some way, because this brings me so much joy thinking about others feeling loved for once actually brings tears to my eyes. I feel like I finally have a purpose. I no longer want money, fame, women, etc all I want out of life is to change the lives of those willing to listen and let them know someone out there loves them with all their heart. For those out there reading this and feel like you're alone, that no one will ever understand you or love you, know that I do understand you and I will always love you until my last breath leaves my lungs. I love you. You are more special than you could ever imagine. - Benjamin.
As a Sigma, I can say I prefer to inspire people threw action rather than words. I would rather show people what can be done with enough effort and will. Me and words dont really mix very well. lol I do tend to "offend" people a lot as well. Mostly, I only care what people think of me when it might affect my goals. Like keeping my job. lol However, i still try not to stir the pot too much. I would still prefer harmony and make sure that i am not the one "ruining" their day. Also, like an empath, I will stand up for the down trodden. For example: One person at work seems to draw a lot of hate from the other workers. I knew immediately that he doesnt disserve it, its not entirely his fault. He has some kind of social disorder. I suspect aspergers but im no expert. So of all the people there, i try to more nice to him than anyone. I also try to "shut down" any BS other people might have toward him when im around. I do it passively rather than getting in their face about it so that the harmony is able to continue.
@@publiusvelocitor4668 I don't know if this is true of everyone, but it's certainly true of me and my experiences. As I watching the video and listening to the description of what an empath Infj, I was exclaiming- "it doesn't work! It doesn't work!" Maybe other Infj empathy- like MLK Jr were able to do that stuff successfully, but I have never been able to. It sucks.
First Adam, then Crucified Man and finally Lord! Every one of us! The salt not the bread! The leaven not the dough! Realize that and be happy! Bye, friends!
Yeah, they still see the world through "rose colored glasses", & sadly we see, & FEEL for truly ugly the world & people are, I can't even go to church or a grocery store without feeling everyone's "sins", & the hypocrisy sickens me
I can do both. Every situation needs a different strategy to reach a goal, so I flow between states. As I get older, I am becoming more used to using the group time to observe and take in info. I go off alone to process and get my part of the work done and come back to the group to check in and show my results. I also offer to take on more work if someone in the group is struggling. You can't always stick people in boxes with labels. People are complex and complicated and that's ok because we're human beings.
If you are a true INFJ then you will interstand that this is one of many personalities that's within you.. so actually, the video should have been titled "natural gifts within the INFJ'S PERSONALITY"
I most definitely have both sets of qualities. In my younger years when my fiance was still alive I was quite a bit more on the empathic side of things. Now since she's died in a car accident I'm more on the sigma side of things but I've always had both but Eileen to one or the other more heavily depending on circumstances, people and emotional things.
💯. Def more E when I was younger. As I’ve matured, learned healthy boundaries and living with a baseline of equilibrium, I’ve become more Sigma and comfortable in my lone wolfness. I call it coming home to my self.
Being an INFJ, married to a narcissistic bum is torture for me right now. Watching the world crumble and degrade around me is getting pretty wearisome.
Or, you can give him infamous hours of silent treatment and door slam... typical narcissistic people want to see empaths suffer in chaos of their expectations and make you drown sorrow. If you don't react and remain silent for time being then narcissistic people slowly doubt themselves and analyse if they did something wrong... May change behaviour due to that. But if it ended up being the next category of narcissist who feed on your openness and empathetic nature even if you remain silent, suggest you leave ASAP Relationships are hard to find, let it be your decision😇😁
Living Life alone is always superior to living a life with a person who is disrespectful, selfish, uncaring and damaging. I hope the best for you, whatever your path might be.
I never thought I'd be the guy that says my x has turned my children against me. It feels as if it's a great failure. I embarrassed by it. She's a Narc....Sorry spell check doesn't even understand my spelling. Regardless it's fucking tragic. I remain stoic and take accountability of them and myself. It does not matter. Even if I get my needs met some compromise comes into play. She will not let me win. I'd cut my arms off for my kids. Even reluctantly burn the world. She let's them sleep angry and that's astonishing. If they hurt I hurt. My God my American sister. Remain yourself throughout this stressful horrific time. You will grow and hopefully gain reward. He won't ever. Semper Fidelis badass empath. Love light open roads. You got this and I'm sorry. Josh
@@joshuaforbus5853 mine did to me too. She's a classic grandiose narcissist, lied, cheated, betrayed and abandoned me and our kid after 20 years. Now she's alienated my daughter against me. I feel for you and sorry you're going through this. Betrayal trauma is some of the worst pain ever, especially for us INFJs.
@@bluesky7704 I can not wait to be on my own. I wonder if it will happen in my lifetime now, however, considering how difficult life is becoming. I have young children with him and it’s just a difficult situation to get out of. I have learned a lot in this life, at least.
This is an interesting theory. I agree. I think empaths can use their sensitivity differently. Not everyone needs to use a tool for the same thing. I've always wanted to have friends. It never happens though. But I seem to open people from their shells and bring social groups together more often than not. It's just I don't feel like I belong there anyway. I am so messed up. I just don't trust anyone.
People are wholesale untrustworthy so it is not at all messed up to have no friends but completely healthy. It is like living in a mental hospital for the criminally insane and mass psychosis is the new normal. A clinician would be ill advised to try to form any relationship or bonds of trust with the inmates/patients. Stay strong, Kevin.
I believe one can posess both qualities because both qualities manifest their purposes depending on inner growth, experiences, development and strengths. I for instance possess both qualities and its suits me well base on the condition and people i encounter. 😊
I am a living example of being both, and I am currently in a Sigma INFJ holding pattern. I used to be more of an Empath, but I let down my boundaries (surprise, surprise), and got emotionally run over. I lost myself in my last relationship, partially because I stayed too long because of the birth and early childhood of my ONLY daughter. While I have not executed the INFJ classic 'Door Slam,' I have emotionally shut down her mother, who is an atypical Narcissist. It has been a challenge to deal with her, but I forced my ex to realize the truth, that whatever she feels about me, I'm still a great father, and I'll fight tooth and nail to be with my daughter.
I am a 20% INFJ and 80% sigma I love the truth, so I say it as I see it . And I love others to tell me the truth of myself . I can detect someone's emotions and know if the are truthful, lying , faking or sensitive . I love to help the poor but I am very selective I will pass and watch the person's living situation and attitude towards feeding their family before I get involved. I am also introverted 70% and I love being in nature . In a relationship I need space to go within ... I am highly independent and provide whatever I need for myself... My goals I rearly talk about ,only with someone that supports my vision. I have limited friends and few accqantces ...I love people bit I know to distance myself from toxic ones .
Wow! Both, knowledge for future fighting , ( fighting means usage of knowledge ) life with daily improvement ( this means knowledge from science and other fields in living systems ) is constant variable power like CVT in mechanical engineering , without fight can't take goal , so totally questioning the unquestionable
Strictly my own opinion. Ounce mature enough we become Sigma. I ounce attracted narcs like a. Magnet. Now, I sense them immediately. I also destroy them quickly. Unless they retreat from my territory.
They used to flock to me like bees to honey. Now they literally run from me. I will eat them for lunch and some how they can sense that. Empath to Sigma is a natural progression.
Thx 4 expanding, with freakish accuracy, my understanding of my MBTI type + Your offering of Sigma characteristics is a transcendental mirror, allowing me to see myself from new, more flattering, angles. Well done, appreciate your effort!!
I'd say for most of my life I've been empath but after working in a Nursing Home for the past few years I've become emotionally drained. I love helping people and they tend to be drawn to me with their problems and fears, I'm usually great at helping them cope or calming them down but lately I just can't do it anymore. I used to love it and felt a sense of purpose and fulfillment. I feel a bit of guilt saying this but lately I just don't want to. I have been focusing on me and areas I need to improve on in my personal life. I might be coverting to sigma and I had no idea it even existed until now lol
Awesome video! For me it depends on the situation and the person... the best way to explain myself is the closer I'm connected to someone and the more I like a person the more I'm likely to lean towards being an empathic infj. However I see myself as a sigma infj in lots of situations that have to do with people I don't know very as well and is probably why someone would say I'm mysterious and or aloof. There is that occasional stranger that I will completely connect to and be empathetic towards though. Maybe a well-rounded infj is at the middle of the spectrum which I feel I'm at now. 10 years ago I was a completely different story though LOL. Gosh it was terrible!
I have never had a CZcams video (or any person I know) define me so well. Apparently I am a text book definition of an INFJ Empath. Well done to whoever constructed this video.
I also agree you can be both. As I watched this, the Sigma INFJ described my younger self to a T. Through time and experience, I have found much satisfaction in helping and inspiring others. I feel I have developed into more of an Empath at this point in my life, and the path I am choosing moving forward. With traces of Sigma still there, hopefully only when I choose them though.
I am both, it all depends on the energy of the person or series of events that require a particular response. If you are a gentle loving soul you will see my gentle empathic me, and if you are a Narcissist you will see another side of me, that will protect me and those I care for from their negativity and hate.
I am mot definitely both. I cannot overlook someone in need and it definitely feels good to sow into them IF they bite. I won't keep going back for more if they play me, BUT I am also really happy when i can just be left alone and have limits what I am willing to give. Lone wolf all the way.
I was an empath INFJ in the past now I'm learning to be both to protect myself from evil so I can live my dreams and shine my light bright as I am a Lightworker, I feel so much better balancing my energies as we do have both yin and Yang but when out of balance can cause a feeling of disconnection from Source and for us to act impulsively out of character when we feel lost✨💖
I myself am situational also. Most of my life has been more empathic than sigma, however, through the cruel narcissistic abuse I've learned to throw up a wall if I need to. A self preservation mechanism if you will. It drains me, but it's necessary.
There are some parts I resonate with the INFJ sigma, but I think I am more of an empath. If I base it on how my friends would describe me, I am a good listener and I validate people's feelings. But then, I'm that friend who would go against the tide and would pop up once every 2 months. 😅 P.S. I miss the old energy-filled, positive sounding voice over.
Empathy is one thing and the Sigma qualities are something else... everyone has a degree of empathy which includes having a absence of empathy in some individuals... as well as extreme situations when a individuals empathy and ability to empathize can shut down as well as the normal range of variability related to focus, interest, energy and so on... 13? seconds into the video and I am pausing the video and reading the comments... and writing my own. LOL Wondering if I will be editing this...
I am both. Struggled for years and bombarded by people, I should say, chaotic people. But I allowed them to overwhelm me by too scared to say no, or not setting boundaries .
I was an empath INFJ until the narcissist found me and broke me. After doing therapy, doing the work on healing and lots and lots of research, I became a sigma INFJ. I miss the old me, but I take care of my inner child now.
There's a fine line. I have no problems with narcissists because they avoid me, but I also have alot of experience with them so they get none of my time. I can usually tell if someone is sincere, then it's completely different. I'm more open with them but I can definitely spot the narcissist in the room.
I'm INFJ empath but lately I've been showing symptoms of SIGMA INFJ so and so. I had massive burnout since last two years. and became very reactive and overly sensitive. Sensitive to sound, lights also as much to emotions around the people, (there was weakness in my body too).
I am both. As empaths mature they realize that they cannot save everyone. It is very wise to learn this sooner rather then later for your own sanity and well-being. As an INFJ I am often told by those who know me, "You work to hard". And also... " I do not understand why you need quiet or solitude". And once the project is completed they say.. "Wow .. that's really good. How did you do that? Now I see why you were being off'ish and distant with me ". In truth I have never ever enjoy being regarded as " A bit off''ish or distant". The Problem presents itself when co-workers friends or family are not interested in a doing a good job in the first place. For the INFJ perfectionism is most times very difficult to get away from, hence one of the reasons we do a great deal of projects alone, or finish them alone which sometimes can cause an INFJ to feel lonely. Regardless with proper dedication applied ... the end result is better, and most people still appreciate a job that is well done. So it is worth it. I suppose. Honestly though I don't like it when people say to me.. "Well I could never do that as good as you do". Because I always feel like "Well of course you can, I'm no different than you". Then the reply comes.. "Uh.. no I can't. I can't do it like you can". and that just makes me sad and lonely. This is a great channel. Thank you. I really appreciate the dedication you have to the work you create and I enjoy all the sharing that goes on here.
I feel it's like growing...from one to the next- life depends on everything...we can be whom we choose when we choose ❤❤❤ all stems from our Heart and Mind ❤❤❤❤❤
I’m both mostly because I observe everything I’d Rather know by observing and acknowledging what’s going on around me than to not understand what others may be going through without observing if they’re in a good mood or not. I am very optimistic and very independent and I always give a shoulder for someone that might need it because that is who I am, I sympathize and empathize, Because it’s always been within me to understand people I’ve always had a good way with words.
I feel I’m both, the younger and more personal me is Empath.. however my interaction with the world in my experience has brought out sigma traits. I know my will to be beyond measure but the world will use up an empath like a free sample. Reminds me of the song “black sheep” by Cody jinks.
I think it's a floating deal, depending on the situation. I think all infj people have both qualities, whether or not they are developed is another issue.
I have both within me.. it's because of my growing up conditions.. and I have the ability to switch instinctively while dealing with anyone without affecting the atmosphere im in.
I feel that it's possible to have both qualities. When I worked as a graphic artist I was very much a sigma. I did not feel the need to attach to my coworkers and their life/drama, did not want to work in groups and had sarcastic humor with coworkers to keep them at arms length. Now that I'm working in health and wellness I'm much more empathetic and genuinely want to help our clients leave feeling better. I believe I'm more of an empath and it's only now that I'm older that I can recognize this.
Yes..Both qualities of Sigma and Empaths can be found in some of us, INFJs..most esp.. Turbulent ones...at different times..as needed..is typically how I put it.. I'm 44 ..I've had a lot of Time to divulge and know the differences and then act accordingly.. it's A LOT..but who else can do this Job...right?.. Also, true on that "Experiencing Burnout" before they can let go or detach..with Empaths.. #ExtravertedIntroverts..Love'em
I was an empath, but after burning out trying to help people & being used, I turned sigma, where I am now very much at peace. I still can meet in teams, but now more as an observer. I no longer feel the need to give the obligatory contribution.
You are not your thoughts You are not your behaviors You cannot be classified Bc each one of us is dynamic & subject to change Moment by moment.. We are energy 💫
...beautiful eyes you have...looking ...understanding... srudying about such special personalities... Thanxz for free learning through your investigative research/study. More power to you
I have both qualities depending on the situation. I think I might be more Empath because the only thing I want in life is to change the world by making people understand how special they are, that they are loved even if they dont think they are, and that their life has meaning.
I lean towards being sigma, I like to analyze myself more than others, because if I have a reaction for the actions of others then I need to know why I got that reaction. Generally I react negatively to negative and pessimistic people, I despise gossip and I can’t take the mistakes of others as mine. I do feel sorry for the people that can’t do something because they don’t get enough motivation, I want to help people and I like to listen to them, when people say I like to interrupt them and talk too much, it’s time to learn more about their emotions, feelings, thoughts and theories than just express my own thoughts. Even though sometimes people don’t want to know what I think. But definitely I show up, I don’t like to stay too long by my self. I don’t like to inspire people for the sake of being a good example, but I’ll love being able to say inside of me: don’t do what I would not do, do as I do and if you can surpass and improve what I can do you’ll be my inspiration.
I do both. The only switch to which i use (metaphorically) I will rapidly assess my environment, individuals, desired outcome etc. Then in order to get the best out of someone or a situation i will either inspire or help pick up and assist. So it can and is done by the minute and flips as required to adapt to every new piece of information recieved from the scenario as it plays out. Example once you have helped some gain confidence or achieve a goal, empathy can take a backseat. Then it's time to inspire them to be the best version of themselves by their choosing, not others!
I'm an empath INFJ but after listening to this, how I wish I was a sigma. I believe it takes such a strong heart to detach so well to avoid getting hurt. I know I can't just change who I am but their qualities are so admirable and worthy of envy. I accept myself though. We are all a little rainbow of personalities in this beautiful world.
I may be wrong and this is just some people's experience, but we Sigmas were made because we had no other choice. Life trauma found us and we had to change because life showed us what we were naive to. It's what people consider an immature INFJ vs. a mature INFJ.... I honestly miss my old empathic me. Enjoy it while you can in hopes that the narcissists don't find you and you attract only good people and good life experiences.
I live both of these existences, flip-flopping between the two depending on external context and mental state. It has been a lifetime of confusion (53+/- years) to finally achieve the level of personal enlightenment. Only after having been triggered by my relationship with a malignant narcissist. I'm also a middle child, a Scorpio and numerologically an 11,2. Now at the age of 60, with the wisdom of age, I feel like I just turned 16. Life sure is funny, that way. 🙃🦂😇🐅🦄💜
For me its how i meet you. If you come off in a bad way id have to say im more sigma but if youre also respectful and even nice im more willing to be empathetic. Its like the sigma side is for people i dont want to let in but if you make it in im an empath
I believe we have both traits.. the thing is aside from differences of environment and people around us... i also believe that we use both traits for clarifying our insights.. i mean for example we have insights.. then reflecting it into empath side to know what people possible reaction.. or reflect it into sigma side that we know we are right... like that.
If I am an INFJ, likely, then I am a sigma. I attract narcissists until they figure out that I am not intimidated by their manipulation. I do not help people unless they ask, not because I have an inner need. (I used to try to help but it just got me in trouble!) Mostly I am into solitude because of massive early abuse so I don’t know totally what my solitude INFJ emotional need is about. When I was designing massive computer systems I had to work alone because no one could understand my logic, but the results always worked! Good explanation! Helps.
finally someone who says things as they are, whether you like it or not, not all infj are the same and I'm bored of all these stereotypes, I'm an infj-a "sigma" and for how strange It May look i seem more an intj than an infj!, I think sigma infj are the rarest types ever, even more than "empathic" infj, do you really believe that all infj are close to stereotype or are so emotional?? I'm an infj-a and I have always felt different from others, even superior in some cases, but the funny part is that not much has changed when I discovered that I'm infj, because I've always been far from the stereotype since: I've always repressed my emotional side that actually prevails (albeit slightly) to logic, since it makes me uncomfortable to be "vulnerable" and too sweet, so even if underneath i don't show it and I'm detached, generally I don't I worry about things and i'm quite optimistic, I'm not very vulnerable / sensitive (I mean "crybaby"), I don't even remotely avoid arguing even if I often try (usually succeeding) to calm people down and I'm more introverted; infj is at least the second most extroverted introvert, but that's not my case, I love being with good, intelligent and intuitive people, but I also really like spending a lot of time on my own. Although in the tests (including cognitive functions) it always came out infj-a and the characteristics of the infj belong to me, but for a short period of time due to some of my character traits unusual for the infj (which I have also at least partially listed above), i also thought i was intj-a, but i was wrong, i am much more emotional than i show, simply as "sigma infj" i have a stronger personality and because of that i could be less empathetic; sometimes i hate myself because i'm being too blunt and i know i could be kinder, but i'm still generous and caring, to be honest i'm proud to be different even from other infjs and i'm definitely not unhealty!
As someone who was brought up by narcissistic parents, I had to become sigma INFJ, but I think with more healthy upbringing I would be more an empath type.
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I guess I'm both🤷😱
I feel like I’m both. I feel like I do all these things, depending on the situation….🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
🖕🔇:#🎧🧝🧝♀️🧝♂️🧕📺📡
#you don't crave solitude it just feels better and it's just like energy as well as even if somebody was understanding or understanding of you basically then they should accept basically no or yes or hello goodbye not know oh I smoke weed and I chill with Genghis Khan like we'll smoke weed then and go rape somebody
It is very possible to have both qualities. I have always displayed qualities of both the Sigma and the Empath. The side of me that greets you depends on who you are!
same idk which side to pick lol
me too, i'm glad i'm not alone
I think we all got those traits! Greetings!
Well said, I believe your own current mental state also influences which side you're leaning toward.
@@gooch2353
good point, i had never looked at it that way before
The INFJ Empath eventually awakens and becomes the Sigma INFJ, at least that's what happened with myself.
If you keep surviving it will come
Yeah that's true..
I would have to agree.
Agree 100%
Me too brother
Used to be more of an empath, now more of a sigma, as I am far more discerning through my experiences, who I deem to be worthy of my time and attention. I have learned to look after me first, I deserve it.
This is my story. Trauma was a harsh reality for the sweet kind hearted empath I once used to be.
Absolutely!
Completely agree
We give so much it’s the only way to make sure we are honoring ourselves too
Learning that now as I pick myself up. Keep preserving and fighting my friends.
I once was an infj empath, but as I've gotten older, I've definitely changed....sometimes I feel cold & distant...I just want to vibe alone & unbothered....I remember I once struggled to hold back the tide of human suffering that would come to me via the souls that would drift into my life......deep exhaustion & disillusionment changed me....now I watch the tide roll in from the top of extremely high walls.....I see people drifting into dark water & I remain silent....I am no longer the lighthouse of comfort & direction....the very few people in my life are my only concern, if I'm fussing with you about what you're doing, then you can be sure that I adore you & you live within the walls of my heart....the fate & comfort of these few people is like a knife in my heart, I am so invested in them....I can't take anyone else in, I need peace. This vid gave me so much clarity & comfort, because sometimes when you're "sigma" you feel like you have a dark heart.
Really well said. Related to all of it.We change with the tides of hurt and circumstance. Great profile name btw :)
So true..
Beautifully written! This is me entirely now too!
Beautifully said and same here!
Reading this in tears! I am in a storm right now in my life, so many changes. And reading this makes me feel sane! Makes me feel that I am making the right decision even when I am also feeling like the bad guy because I am putting myself first! Thank you for sharing!
I have to agree with many of the earlier comments. I was an empathic INFJ in my younger days, but life/reality + time has hardened me into a sigma.
Amen 😇 👼 🙏
Empaths graduate into Sigma,
A sigma was once this empath you're saying. Once E decides that she/he wants to end co-dependency & has now a bulletproof personal boundaries, then now she's an S.
We can always go back though if when we read you, we like the energy you're emitting
Very true !!!
100% true
Exactly. Well said, Vic Angela.
It is very situational. There are certain factors and environments that cause us to lean towards different tendencies. I find myself leaning towards either/or. For example, I own the tendency to be a healer, but i adopt the other behavioral pattern when i go through abuse. I think it’s an adaptation matter, while also having root behavioral patterns that may make one ‘between the lines’ of an INFJ Sigma/Empath. Good attempt to define us though!
I think it is also possible to transition from one to the other over the course of a lifetime, more specifically from empath to sigma. Of course I am saying this based on my own life experience, so take it with a grain of salt.
I tend to fluctuate and switch depending on situation and feelings in current environment.
I agree with all your comments,lol and I definitely see the sigma more after 5yrs of healing from 7yrs of narc abuse and many more yrs of allowing peeps to take advantage. God bless 🙏
Mixed
Agreed. 100%. It’s very much situational for me and somewhat dependent on my inner reserves. It also depends upon with who(m) I’m interacting. Is it someone I perceive is a routine complainer whose suffering is predominantly a direct result of their habitual short-sighted and often poor choices? As in, do they routinely blame others for the majority of their suffering? Do they refuse to accept any oneness in their ability to at least make some different decisions? I’ve lived long enough that I’ve learned that my empathy isn’t wisely invested in trying to help people with this sort of mindset. I suppose I’m more ‘sigma’ around people like this in order to keep myself from being drained. My patience for this sort of thing is rather short, and I can come off fairly no-nonsense, blunt, terse, and sometimes even cold. I used to be a bleeding heart for literally everyone, but I’ve been fortunate enough to learn some critical life lessons regarding how to better invest my energy (empathy) and time. After 4 years of twice weekly trauma therapy with a clinical psychologist, I learned to stop trying to ‘fix’ others and to instead carefully select the types of people with which I’d prefer to surround myself. I learned what I can control and how my own choices can shape the quality of my life. I’m a reformed people-pleaser. I simply don’t cater to people who are looking to play games, be enabled, or scatter eggshells everywhere. In fact, I’ve noticed that I seem to even repel them now to a fair extent. I don’t have to be mean, cruel, rude, or disrespectful. Just rational, direct, and consistent. This has all been life-changing for the better.
As INFJ Empath I learned to may feel "tired". That was a hard lesson because I was totally exhausted by listening to other people and trying to feel them happy without listening to my own needs. After the great psychological breakdown I got more balanced by saying more "no" to people. In the beginning this felt "wrong" because it felt unnatural. By getting older I know "saying no" is the answer to achieve more respect, a value that everyone deserves.
Yes sir.
Well said! 🙌🏼
I am glad that there are Sigma INFJs out there in the world. I tend to lose myself trying to maintain social harmony and support of the group. When I watch a video like this, it helps me center myself and love myself.
I wish I knew this about myself throughout HS and college. I wasted years in loops and trying to support teams and people and not work on myself.
I think it is definitely possible to have both qualities.
By default, I embody sigma qualities but when I have to go into the world or work in a team, I then use empath abilities.
I believe being an Empath is my root, and developing into a stronger, more aware Empath, happened after I matured, to understand myself and others traits better (I can’t save everyone or everything) I have to save myself before I can help others.
EnnVee, seeing your comment reminds me of my Ex telling me all the time " Alex you're Not Jesus" damn i feel a burden I most mature, balance this urge to sacrifice all for others and forgetting about myself...
In answer to your question, yes, I believe it is entirely possible for an INFJ to have both qualities. I personally am more of a Sigma, but I can use the empathetic side too.
As we grow and experience life, we change. Once an empath, now a Sigma...
Definitely INFJ empath. I havent had to take a test, I've always known something was different about me. The way I wake up and just want to help people while also being too scared to fully be myself because of what others may think and knowing they'll never be able to understand why I think the way I do. Doesn't change the love I have for everyone and everything living in the universe
I started out Sigma at a younger age, became more empath...now becoming more sigma again.
Maybe do to life experiences or just finding balance in both.
If You have INFJ in front of any title that automatically equals paradox.
We are, and then we arent.
This topic, apparently is no different.
I think we can be the empath
AND can be Sigma
I want to inspire people...until I dont feel like it and want to be alone.
60/40empath sigma
Have yourselves a deep day. Make it count
Aahhh....the paradox....where we live and thrive....how's you mood today?
@@fazblakk997 David Badurina (INFJ) channel...has a community post tab where the most recent is a bunch of cat faces to gauge mood...I'm a 3 today lol. You?
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@@sojourneroftheland oh my does this sound interesting... lol!
@@sojourneroftheland I'm feeling like 4. He looks like he doesn't know where....but some bs is coming from someone at some time.....soon. sheesh....lol.
@@fazblakk997 sorry, i didnt understand your last comment. Is everything ok?
I am definitely an empath at heart. I found out about my being a male INFJ about two years ago and it really opened up my eyes to why I feel the way I do about almost everything. But the big part of me that craves to help people, I saw this as an opposite to my other INFJ characteristics. Now I better understand and this has cleared a lot up for me. I am different from many in that I used to be much more a Sigma. But several health related, near death experiences have made me much more of the empath in nature. And much of my initial impression of you will decide which who I become to you. Show me you are about helping yourself and my empath side shows up. Show me you are a fake or that you do not care about yourself and the old sigma me comes roaring out to quickly to call you out and shut that door.
Yes it is possible to have both qualities as an INFJ. I am mostly a Sigma INFJ but I do have some qualities that make me an "Empath" INFJ. The empath part of me has been working on perfecting my craft in singing, guitar, drums and bass since I was around 19. I originally started out wanting to be a famous rockstar because all the metal bands I listened to looked so cool up on stage with the crowd going crazy to their music. However as time went on I began to mature and realize none of that mattered and that the only thing that mattered was what I thought of myself. After I started to become this way and trying to motivate others to be better people and realize just how special they were I started to realize that something was wrong, everyone was unhappy and found out suicide was one of the leading causes of death, making it technically an epidemic. From that day on I decided that I was going to make music not for myself but for everyone else who had ever been neglected and betrayed by family or society like I had. I was going to make music that inspired people and made them realize that they were special, that their life had meaning and above all else, if they literally had no one else to love them, that I loved them. My goal is to release this music for free and maybe stop some people from committing suicide. "Emo" and "Goth" people like myself are the ones I will be mainly focusing on by playing different genre's of Hard Rock / Metal because they are the ones that need love that most. Alternative people become like this from feeling like outcasts and that no one cares about us. Just thinking about my mission in my mind and imagining children, teenagers and adults feeling like someone finally understands them and loves them for who they are, no matter who they are or what they have done will bring them joy in some way, because this brings me so much joy thinking about others feeling loved for once actually brings tears to my eyes. I feel like I finally have a purpose. I no longer want money, fame, women, etc all I want out of life is to change the lives of those willing to listen and let them know someone out there loves them with all their heart.
For those out there reading this and feel like you're alone, that no one will ever understand you or love you, know that I do understand you and I will always love you until my last breath leaves my lungs.
I love you. You are more special than you could ever imagine.
- Benjamin.
As a Sigma, I can say I prefer to inspire people threw action rather than words. I would rather show people what can be done with enough effort and will.
Me and words dont really mix very well. lol
I do tend to "offend" people a lot as well. Mostly, I only care what people think of me when it might affect my goals. Like keeping my job. lol
However, i still try not to stir the pot too much. I would still prefer harmony and make sure that i am not the one "ruining" their day. Also, like an empath, I will stand up for the down trodden.
For example: One person at work seems to draw a lot of hate from the other workers. I knew immediately that he doesnt disserve it, its not entirely his fault. He has some kind of social disorder. I suspect aspergers but im no expert. So of all the people there, i try to more nice to him than anyone. I also try to "shut down" any BS other people might have toward him when im around. I do it passively rather than getting in their face about it so that the harmony is able to continue.
I think INFJ empaths are the less mature form, and life experiences turn them into sigmas.
By less mature, I'm saying idealistic but naiive.
@@publiusvelocitor4668 I don't know if this is true of everyone, but it's certainly true of me and my experiences. As I watching the video and listening to the description of what an empath Infj, I was exclaiming- "it doesn't work! It doesn't work!"
Maybe other Infj empathy- like MLK Jr were able to do that stuff successfully, but I have never been able to. It sucks.
*empaths
First Adam, then Crucified Man and finally Lord! Every one of us! The salt not the bread! The leaven not the dough! Realize that and be happy! Bye, friends!
Yeah, they still see the world through "rose colored glasses", & sadly we see, & FEEL for truly ugly the world & people are, I can't even go to church or a grocery store without feeling everyone's "sins", & the hypocrisy sickens me
This video proves that I am sigma infj, thank you brother for your videos of introspection🤩🥰❤👏
I can do both. Every situation needs a different strategy to reach a goal, so I flow between states. As I get older, I am becoming more used to using the group time to observe and take in info. I go off alone to process and get my part of the work done and come back to the group to check in and show my results. I also offer to take on more work if someone in the group is struggling. You can't always stick people in boxes with labels. People are complex and complicated and that's ok because we're human beings.
I feel like I used to be an INFJ empath and now I’m like a hybrid or sigma INFJ
If you are a true INFJ then you will interstand that this is one of many personalities that's within you.. so actually, the video should have been titled "natural gifts within the INFJ'S PERSONALITY"
I most definitely have both sets of qualities. In my younger years when my fiance was still alive I was quite a bit more on the empathic side of things. Now since she's died in a car accident I'm more on the sigma side of things but I've always had both but Eileen to one or the other more heavily depending on circumstances, people and emotional things.
💯. Def more E when I was younger. As I’ve matured, learned healthy boundaries and living with a baseline of equilibrium, I’ve become more Sigma and comfortable in my lone wolfness. I call it coming home to my self.
Being an INFJ, married to a narcissistic bum is torture for me right now.
Watching the world crumble and degrade around me is getting pretty wearisome.
Or, you can give him infamous hours of silent treatment and door slam... typical narcissistic people want to see empaths suffer in chaos of their expectations and make you drown sorrow.
If you don't react and remain silent for time being then narcissistic people slowly doubt themselves and analyse if they did something wrong... May change behaviour due to that.
But if it ended up being the next category of narcissist who feed on your openness and empathetic nature even if you remain silent, suggest you leave ASAP
Relationships are hard to find, let it be your decision😇😁
Living Life alone is always superior to living a life with a person who is disrespectful, selfish, uncaring and damaging. I hope the best for you, whatever your path might be.
I never thought I'd be the guy that says my x has turned my children against me. It feels as if it's a great failure. I embarrassed by it. She's a Narc....Sorry spell check doesn't even understand my spelling. Regardless it's fucking tragic. I remain stoic and take accountability of them and myself. It does not matter. Even if I get my needs met some compromise comes into play. She will not let me win. I'd cut my arms off for my kids. Even reluctantly burn the world. She let's them sleep angry and that's astonishing. If they hurt I hurt. My God my American sister. Remain yourself throughout this stressful horrific time. You will grow and hopefully gain reward. He won't ever. Semper Fidelis badass empath. Love light open roads. You got this and I'm sorry. Josh
@@joshuaforbus5853 mine did to me too. She's a classic grandiose narcissist, lied, cheated, betrayed and abandoned me and our kid after 20 years. Now she's alienated my daughter against me. I feel for you and sorry you're going through this. Betrayal trauma is some of the worst pain ever, especially for us INFJs.
@@bluesky7704 I can not wait to be on my own. I wonder if it will happen in my lifetime now, however, considering how difficult life is becoming. I have young children with him and it’s just a difficult situation to get out of. I have learned a lot in this life, at least.
Hmmm I can relate to both somehow. I'm extremely independent and a loner but I help to my own detriment.
I resonate with both of these… it just depends on the situation and the relationship 😕
This is an interesting theory. I agree. I think empaths can use their sensitivity differently. Not everyone needs to use a tool for the same thing.
I've always wanted to have friends. It never happens though. But I seem to open people from their shells and bring social groups together more often than not.
It's just I don't feel like I belong there anyway. I am so messed up. I just don't trust anyone.
People are wholesale untrustworthy so it is not at all messed up to have no friends but completely healthy. It is like living in a mental hospital for the criminally insane and mass psychosis is the new normal. A clinician would be ill advised to try to form any relationship or bonds of trust with the inmates/patients. Stay strong, Kevin.
I believe one can posess both qualities because both qualities manifest their purposes depending on inner growth, experiences, development and strengths. I for instance possess both qualities and its suits me well base on the condition and people i encounter. 😊
I am a living example of being both, and I am currently in a Sigma INFJ holding pattern. I used to be more of an Empath, but I let down my boundaries (surprise, surprise), and got emotionally run over. I lost myself in my last relationship, partially because I stayed too long because of the birth and early childhood of my ONLY daughter. While I have not executed the INFJ classic 'Door Slam,' I have emotionally shut down her mother, who is an atypical Narcissist. It has been a challenge to deal with her, but I forced my ex to realize the truth, that whatever she feels about me, I'm still a great father, and I'll fight tooth and nail to be with my daughter.
I am a 20% INFJ and 80% sigma I love the truth, so I say it as I see it . And I love others to tell me the truth of myself . I can detect someone's emotions and know if the are truthful, lying , faking or sensitive . I love to help the poor but I am very selective I will pass and watch the person's living situation and attitude towards feeding their family before I get involved. I am also introverted 70% and I love being in nature . In a relationship I need space to go within ... I am highly independent and provide whatever I need for myself... My goals I rearly talk about ,only with someone that supports my vision. I have limited friends and few accqantces ...I love people bit I know to distance myself from toxic ones .
I'm all of the above! And the thing about it is I go back and forth all the time. I just pick my battles.
SIGMA-INFJ-EMPATH... A trifecta of trial, tribulation, and turmoil. lol
Having both qualities is important for Family members and does give self worth and connection; which gives others confidence of being loved!
Wow! Both, knowledge for future fighting , ( fighting means usage of knowledge ) life with daily improvement ( this means knowledge from science and other fields in living systems ) is constant variable power like CVT in mechanical engineering , without fight can't take goal , so totally questioning the unquestionable
Strictly my own opinion. Ounce mature enough we become Sigma.
I ounce attracted narcs like a. Magnet.
Now, I sense them immediately.
I also destroy them quickly. Unless they retreat from my territory.
They used to flock to me like bees to honey. Now they literally run from me. I will eat them for lunch and some how they can sense that. Empath to Sigma is a natural progression.
Thx 4 expanding, with freakish accuracy, my understanding of my MBTI type + Your offering of Sigma characteristics is a transcendental mirror, allowing me to see myself from new, more flattering, angles. Well done, appreciate your effort!!
I'd say for most of my life I've been empath but after working in a Nursing Home for the past few years I've become emotionally drained. I love helping people and they tend to be drawn to me with their problems and fears, I'm usually great at helping them cope or calming them down but lately I just can't do it anymore. I used to love it and felt a sense of purpose and fulfillment. I feel a bit of guilt saying this but lately I just don't want to. I have been focusing on me and areas I need to improve on in my personal life. I might be coverting to sigma and I had no idea it even existed until now lol
Im an Infj Empath.. i love your voice too.
Awesome video! For me it depends on the situation and the person... the best way to explain myself is the closer I'm connected to someone and the more I like a person the more I'm likely to lean towards being an empathic infj. However I see myself as a sigma infj in lots of situations that have to do with people I don't know very as well and is probably why someone would say I'm mysterious and or aloof. There is that occasional stranger that I will completely connect to and be empathetic towards though. Maybe a well-rounded infj is at the middle of the spectrum which I feel I'm at now. 10 years ago I was a completely different story though LOL. Gosh it was terrible!
I have never had a CZcams video (or any person I know) define me so well. Apparently I am a text book definition of an INFJ Empath. Well done to whoever constructed this video.
I have both qualities very Strong.. also both introvert & extrovert.. complex personality yet genuine & raw honest, with or without filters varies.
I also agree you can be both. As I watched this, the Sigma INFJ described my younger self to a T. Through time and experience, I have found much satisfaction in helping and inspiring others. I feel I have developed into more of an Empath at this point in my life, and the path I am choosing moving forward. With traces of Sigma still there, hopefully only when I choose them though.
I am both, it all depends on the energy of the person or series of events that require a particular response. If you are a gentle loving soul you will see my gentle empathic me, and if you are a Narcissist you will see another side of me, that will protect me and those I care for from their negativity and hate.
Yes infj is forever evolving learning and growing and will develop more characteristics over time through trials and errors but so does everyone else
I am mot definitely both. I cannot overlook someone in need and it definitely feels good to sow into them IF they bite. I won't keep going back for more if they play me, BUT I am also really happy when i can just be left alone and have limits what I am willing to give. Lone wolf all the way.
This has been of great value to me..I am an INFJ now I know I’m an Empath with Sigma tendencies..I feel stronger knowing more of who I am.
Yes, i believe you can be a sigma and empathetic..with experiences , you learn and you learn discernment.
I was an empath INFJ in the past now I'm learning to be both to protect myself from evil so I can live my dreams and shine my light bright as I am a Lightworker, I feel so much better balancing my energies as we do have both yin and Yang but when out of balance can cause a feeling of disconnection from Source and for us to act impulsively out of character when we feel lost✨💖
I myself am situational also. Most of my life has been more empathic than sigma, however, through the cruel narcissistic abuse I've learned to throw up a wall if I need to. A self preservation mechanism if you will. It drains me, but it's necessary.
There are some parts I resonate with the INFJ sigma, but I think I am more of an empath. If I base it on how my friends would describe me, I am a good listener and I validate people's feelings. But then, I'm that friend who would go against the tide and would pop up once every 2 months. 😅
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Empathy is one thing and the Sigma qualities are something else... everyone has a degree of empathy which includes having a absence of empathy in some individuals... as well as extreme situations when a individuals empathy and ability to empathize can shut down as well as the normal range of variability related to focus, interest, energy and so on...
13? seconds into the video and I am pausing the video and reading the comments... and writing my own.
LOL Wondering if I will be editing this...
Both
I am both. Struggled for years and bombarded by people, I should say, chaotic people. But I allowed them to overwhelm me by too scared to say no, or not setting boundaries .
I was an empath INFJ until the narcissist found me and broke me. After doing therapy, doing the work on healing and lots and lots of research, I became a sigma INFJ. I miss the old me, but I take care of my inner child now.
I can switch between one and the other depending on what is more advantageous or required by force majeure
There's a fine line. I have no problems with narcissists because they avoid me, but I also have alot of experience with them so they get none of my time. I can usually tell if someone is sincere, then it's completely different. I'm more open with them but I can definitely spot the narcissist in the room.
In my experience, I apply either characteristic according to the situation.
I'm INFJ empath but lately I've been showing symptoms of SIGMA INFJ so and so. I had massive burnout since last two years. and became very reactive and overly sensitive. Sensitive to sound, lights also as much to emotions around the people, (there was weakness in my body too).
I am both.
As empaths mature they realize that they cannot save everyone.
It is very wise to learn this sooner rather then later for your own sanity and well-being.
As an INFJ I am often told by those who know me, "You work to hard".
And also...
" I do not understand why you need quiet or solitude".
And once the project is completed they say..
"Wow .. that's really good. How did you do that? Now I see why you were being off'ish and distant with me ".
In truth I have never ever enjoy being regarded as " A bit off''ish or distant".
The Problem presents itself when co-workers friends or family are not interested in a doing a good job in the first place.
For the INFJ perfectionism is most times very difficult to get away from, hence one of the reasons we do a great deal of projects alone, or finish them alone which sometimes can cause an INFJ to feel lonely.
Regardless with proper dedication applied ... the end result is better, and most people still appreciate a job that is well done. So it is worth it. I suppose.
Honestly though I don't like it when people say to me..
"Well I could never do that as good as you do".
Because I always feel like "Well of course you can, I'm no different than you".
Then the reply comes..
"Uh.. no I can't. I can't do it like you can".
and that just makes me sad and lonely.
This is a great channel.
Thank you. I really appreciate the dedication you have to the work you create and I enjoy all the sharing that goes on here.
I feel it's like growing...from one to the next- life depends on everything...we can be whom we choose when we choose ❤❤❤ all stems from our Heart and Mind ❤❤❤❤❤
I’m both mostly because I observe everything I’d Rather know by observing and acknowledging what’s going on around me than to not understand what others may be going through without observing if they’re in a good mood or not.
I am very optimistic and very independent and I always give a shoulder for someone that might need it because that is who I am, I sympathize and empathize, Because it’s always been within me to understand people I’ve always had a good way with words.
You can flow between the two depending on where you are in your life.
Yup, was just thinking this.
Totally AGREE
I’m an INFJ EMPATH working on becoming a total SIGMA❤
I feel I’m both, the younger and more personal me is Empath.. however my interaction with the world in my experience has brought out sigma traits. I know my will to be beyond measure but the world will use up an empath like a free sample. Reminds me of the song “black sheep” by Cody jinks.
Apparently I recently have become a Sigma INFJ.
Time for the research and my continued growth and self rediscovery.
Thank you for this upload.
I think it's a floating deal, depending on the situation. I think all infj people have both qualities, whether or not they are developed is another issue.
Yes...I have both quality and I use them when necessary.
I have both within me.. it's because of my growing up conditions.. and I have the ability to switch instinctively while dealing with anyone without affecting the atmosphere im in.
i love that sentence INFJ as heaven's instrument to sustain people emotional needs 😂😇❤️
I feel that it's possible to have both qualities. When I worked as a graphic artist I was very much a sigma. I did not feel the need to attach to my coworkers and their life/drama, did not want to work in groups and had sarcastic humor with coworkers to keep them at arms length. Now that I'm working in health and wellness I'm much more empathetic and genuinely want to help our clients leave feeling better. I believe I'm more of an empath and it's only now that I'm older that I can recognize this.
INFJ Empath keeps on evolving.
Yes..Both qualities of Sigma and Empaths can be found in some of us, INFJs..most esp.. Turbulent ones...at different times..as needed..is typically how I put it.. I'm 44 ..I've had a lot of Time to divulge and know the differences and then act accordingly.. it's A LOT..but who else can do this Job...right?..
Also, true on that "Experiencing Burnout" before they can let go or detach..with Empaths.. #ExtravertedIntroverts..Love'em
I'm predominantly an Infj empath but as a get older I'm noticing I've develop more and more sigma qualities...
I was an empath, but after burning out trying to help people & being used, I turned sigma, where I am now very much at peace. I still can meet in teams, but now more as an observer. I no longer feel the need to give the obligatory contribution.
You are not your thoughts
You are not your behaviors
You cannot be classified
Bc each one of us is dynamic & subject to change
Moment by moment..
We are energy 💫
Infj empath yes both qualities depends on situation
I definitely have both of these characteristic traits.
I would think that the differences comes depending upon my mood.
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More power to you
I have both qualities depending on the situation. I think I might be more Empath because the only thing I want in life is to change the world by making people understand how special they are, that they are loved even if they dont think they are, and that their life has meaning.
I lean towards being sigma, I like to analyze myself more than others, because if I have a reaction for the actions of others then I need to know why I got that reaction. Generally I react negatively to negative and pessimistic people, I despise gossip and I can’t take the mistakes of others as mine. I do feel sorry for the people that can’t do something because they don’t get enough motivation, I want to help people and I like to listen to them, when people say I like to interrupt them and talk too much, it’s time to learn more about their emotions, feelings, thoughts and theories than just express my own thoughts. Even though sometimes people don’t want to know what I think. But definitely I show up, I don’t like to stay too long by my self. I don’t like to inspire people for the sake of being a good example, but I’ll love being able to say inside of me: don’t do what I would not do, do as I do and if you can surpass and improve what I can do you’ll be my inspiration.
I do both. The only switch to which i use (metaphorically) I will rapidly assess my environment, individuals, desired outcome etc. Then in order to get the best out of someone or a situation i will either inspire or help pick up and assist. So it can and is done by the minute and flips as required to adapt to every new piece of information recieved from the scenario as it plays out. Example once you have helped some gain confidence or achieve a goal, empathy can take a backseat. Then it's time to inspire them to be the best version of themselves by their choosing, not others!
I'm an empath INFJ but after listening to this, how I wish I was a sigma. I believe it takes such a strong heart to detach so well to avoid getting hurt. I know I can't just change who I am but their qualities are so admirable and worthy of envy. I accept myself though. We are all a little rainbow of personalities in this beautiful world.
I may be wrong and this is just some people's experience, but we Sigmas were made because we had no other choice. Life trauma found us and we had to change because life showed us what we were naive to. It's what people consider an immature INFJ vs. a mature INFJ.... I honestly miss my old empathic me. Enjoy it while you can in hopes that the narcissists don't find you and you attract only good people and good life experiences.
As an INFJ, I couldn't differentiate between the two. I use both.
I was both growing up and still am both take it or leave it, suit yourself I learned early.
It’s weird cause I’m a lone wolf but I have empathy when confided in so maybe you can have both 😂
It all depend on my mood - sometimes i prefer work alone, but when i like some peoples i wanna join them as well. I gues im both types:)
It's now clear for me. I'm more an empath. I'm still an INFJ. I thought I was INFP or ISFJ. Just sharing.
I live both of these existences, flip-flopping between the two depending on external context and mental state. It has been a lifetime of confusion (53+/- years) to finally achieve the level of personal enlightenment. Only after having been triggered by my relationship with a malignant narcissist. I'm also a middle child, a Scorpio and numerologically an 11,2. Now at the age of 60, with the wisdom of age, I feel like I just turned 16. Life sure is funny, that way.
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Been an infj empath all my life then felt tired after 19.
For me its how i meet you. If you come off in a bad way id have to say im more sigma but if youre also respectful and even nice im more willing to be empathetic. Its like the sigma side is for people i dont want to let in but if you make it in im an empath
Yes it is possible for both INFJ to have SOME of both qualities.
I believe we have both traits.. the thing is aside from differences of environment and people around us... i also believe that we use both traits for clarifying our insights.. i mean for example we have insights.. then reflecting it into empath side to know what people possible reaction.. or reflect it into sigma side that we know we are right... like that.
Yup. I believe this to be true. Was thinking this at the end of video. During vid made me think that different situations changed each time. 🤔
If I am an INFJ, likely, then I am a sigma. I attract narcissists until they figure out that I am not intimidated by their manipulation. I do not help people unless they ask, not because I have an inner need. (I used to try to help but it just got me in trouble!)
Mostly I am into solitude because of massive early abuse so I don’t know totally what my solitude INFJ emotional need is about. When I was designing massive computer systems I had to work alone because no one could understand my logic, but the results always worked!
Good explanation! Helps.
Well as I had pretty much thought, the INFJ-A label is pretty much mine, I have virtually all the traits, not a Sigma.
finally someone who says things as they are, whether you like it or not, not all infj are the same and I'm bored of all these stereotypes, I'm an infj-a "sigma" and for how strange It May look i seem more an intj than an infj!, I think sigma infj are the rarest types ever, even more than "empathic" infj, do you really believe that all infj are close to stereotype or are so emotional?? I'm an infj-a and I have always felt different from others, even superior in some cases, but the funny part is that not much has changed when I discovered that I'm infj, because I've always been far from the stereotype since: I've always repressed my emotional side that actually prevails (albeit slightly) to logic, since it makes me uncomfortable to be "vulnerable" and too sweet, so even if underneath i don't show it and I'm detached, generally I don't I worry about things and i'm quite optimistic, I'm not very vulnerable / sensitive (I mean "crybaby"), I don't even remotely avoid arguing even if I often try (usually succeeding) to calm people down and I'm more introverted; infj is at least the second most extroverted introvert, but that's not my case, I love being with good, intelligent and intuitive people, but I also really like spending a lot of time on my own. Although in the tests (including cognitive functions) it always came out infj-a and the characteristics of the infj belong to me, but for a short period of time due to some of my character traits unusual for the infj (which I have also at least partially listed above), i also thought i was intj-a, but i was wrong, i am much more emotional than i show, simply as "sigma infj" i have a stronger personality and because of that i could be less empathetic; sometimes i hate myself because i'm being too blunt and i know i could be kinder, but i'm still generous and caring, to be honest i'm proud to be different even from other infjs and i'm definitely not unhealty!
As someone who was brought up by narcissistic parents, I had to become sigma INFJ, but I think with more healthy upbringing I would be more an empath type.