The Exact Moment AMD Beat Intel

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  • čas přidán 6. 05. 2014
  • AMD Core Innovation Summit May 2014
    Jim Keller, the architect behind the original Athlon 64 and Athlon XP talks about the exciting new Zen architecture that has proven since to dethrone Intel from the PC crown.
    Since then AMD's market value has surpassed that of intel by more than 20 Billion dollars.
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Komentáře • 258

  • @Shankovich
    @Shankovich Před 9 lety +95

    The Return of the King

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier Před 7 lety

      So...
      Did you end up happy with Zen?

    • @jlu
      @jlu Před 4 lety +2

      @Henning Malland Perhaps you should upgrade now :)

  • @ahmedp800
    @ahmedp800 Před 7 lety +15

    The more I read about this guy, the more respect I have for him.
    He worked on Apple CPUs, and upcoming promising AMD ZEN.
    He is simply a legend and seems modest.

  • @reluctantrealist6861
    @reluctantrealist6861 Před 6 lety +23

    I really admire people like Jim Keller. I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be to design a new microarchitecture.

  • @shocka007
    @shocka007 Před 8 lety +94

    Clone the man, several times.

    • @corkkyle
      @corkkyle Před 4 lety +2

      After watching Fridman's conversation w/ Jim Keller, I ask myself why shouldn't we make many clones of every very good mind like Jim Keller?

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 Před 3 lety

      Words right outta my mouth.
      See the lex interview comments.

  • @jlu
    @jlu Před 4 lety +7

    And look where Zen is at now. Absolutely incredible work, Jim Keller.

  • @sssanl6096
    @sssanl6096 Před 10 lety +42

    AMD AMD AMD ! GOGOGO YOU CAN DO IT

  • @Lolimaster
    @Lolimaster Před 8 lety +7

    We need to have Jim Keller status in every university and worship it with a glow in your eyes.

  • @markvietti
    @markvietti Před 7 lety +9

    we are so lucky to have this guy....they should clone him..

  • @reymondseracarpio7571
    @reymondseracarpio7571 Před 8 lety +19

    Jim Keller, the architect behind the athlons that hammered intel, oh yeah... this is gonna be good!

    • @MoneyTimeMachine
      @MoneyTimeMachine  Před 8 lety +9

      +reymond seracarpio Here's a cookie for that well placed pun.
      To those who may be unaware. The successor to the original K7 Athlon CPU microarchitecture and the world's first ever 64bit x86 CPU microarchitecture was code named "Hammer" or alternatively "SledgeHammer".
      Better known as K8, Keller had a hand in forging this Hammer which enabled AMD to break the back of Intel and control 50% share of market for a brief period of time. The only period of time the company had ever controlled as much market share in its history.

    • @u263a3
      @u263a3 Před 3 lety +2

      Here in 2021 this statement is true !

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 Před 3 lety

      Netburst and bullsozer were both experimentation that taught them a lot about how not to engineer a processor.

  • @AtiCrossfireX
    @AtiCrossfireX Před 9 lety +46

    Jim Keller is back, and like he said he loves CPUs. I'm most certain AMD is going to put a great product for next year, I can't wait for this one. I have a very good feeling about it.

    • @killermoon635
      @killermoon635 Před 9 lety +4

      AtiCrossfireX
      So, they will make a great product because is jim keller love CPU's LOL
      AMD fanboys come up with some of the stupidest thing I ever heard.

    • @fossilfern
      @fossilfern Před 9 lety +17

      maroom1 "So, they will make a great product because is jim keller love CPU's LOL"
      Thats what he said.... the man has passion and is smart. AMD was having problems after he left, only really since Phenom came out did Intel get the performance lead, before that point it was almost always AMD.

    • @AtiCrossfireX
      @AtiCrossfireX Před 9 lety +4

      +maroom1 if I'm a fan boy, what are you? Let me guess Intel right...

    • @AtiCrossfireX
      @AtiCrossfireX Před 9 lety +5

      maroom1 not because is Jim Keller love CPU's, because Jim Keller is passionate about CPU's. Go read more, so you can understand. Jim's history with AMD and he's successful work.

    • @killermoon635
      @killermoon635 Před 9 lety

      fossilfern
      Actually AMD only took the lead when Intel released netburst (pentium 4). Also, core 2 duo and quad came out a little more than 1 year before AMD released phenom.

  • @kyozon8925
    @kyozon8925 Před 7 lety +10

    I'm always amazed by this video every time i watch this. Jim Keller is truly a Legend. I can't wait to see the final Product on 2017.

    • @fataliity101
      @fataliity101 Před 3 lety

      It's like you can see him deconstructing the entire design transistor by transistor in his mind as he's talking.

  • @kyozon8925
    @kyozon8925 Před 9 lety +9

    Yes, finally my favourite company starts to move again! I really wants to see this New CPU giving the performance we need and the price that I love.

  • @diazemap
    @diazemap Před 6 lety +5

    No one can make Intel shit their pants like Jim Keller. Ryzen and Threadripper are out and kicking butts again but we never hear about people like him. He deserves way more credit but I'd say he doesn't really care that much about such fleeting and unsubstantial stuff like being famous.

  • @Folopolis
    @Folopolis Před 10 lety +5

    Merging ARM and x86 is interesting. I'd love to see something of a Hybrid between Windows 8 and Windows RT in the future with this kind of platform. Where the core OS that doesn't need to be high performance itself can use ARM cores to save battery life in a notebook, and then there are the x86 cores as well for high performance and legacy applications.

  • @djsensacion7
    @djsensacion7 Před 8 lety +3

    13:49 HBM confirmed !
    14:06 HSA . . . Pay Attention. Performance enhanced by HSA is incredible. Compute Cores (CPU/GPU sharing memory) are the future of computing. The LibreOffice suite is already compatible with HSA, now it's time to get video rendering on the same page

  • @a.thales7641
    @a.thales7641 Před 9 lety +24

    I really, really wanna see what he can give us and I wanna see it in 2016 and I wanna see it with 14nm finfet. I really do hope that and will kick ass on both sides CPU and GPU and have great performance, great power efficiency etc. We truly need innovation and competition.

    • @christopherfortinuex
      @christopherfortinuex Před 9 lety

      ***** intel closed it's fabs in Israel years ago btw..

    • @christopherfortinuex
      @christopherfortinuex Před 9 lety

      *****
      news to me have a link?

    • @a.thales7641
      @a.thales7641 Před 9 lety

      One more reason to buy AMD i would say.

    • @christopherfortinuex
      @christopherfortinuex Před 9 lety +2

      ***** buying just specifics not from there is not going to hurt Intel at all though. More people will buy Intel than will boycott regardless of some hate you have for a specific country. Intel last I knew made most of it's money within the USA and Asia. AMD is also an American company. You buying either actually has no effect on the country you hate when they are both rooted in the USA that supports Israel. Your logic doesn't seem to incorporate this. Unless you can find a chip fab with modern architecture not founded and operated from the USA then you are S.O.L.

    • @DylRicho
      @DylRicho Před 8 lety

      +Raidenway The principle behind AMD's octa-core versus Intel's quad-core is that to the operating system, they were both octa-cores. It was simply a different way of handling the core design, and ultimately, Intel's was stronger.

  • @ThunderKat
    @ThunderKat Před 9 lety +2

    Put your volume on 100% and enjoy the video :P

  • @DAY7703
    @DAY7703 Před 7 lety +5

    he already know whats will happen in next 2 years..
    # thrust me i'm an engineer

  • @ianalix5072
    @ianalix5072 Před 9 lety +3

    Been a fan of AMD since their release of the K7 architecture in the early 2000s. Still a fan. I feel like with this new release it will make them a dominating force, not just market-wise but finally some solid performance innovations that will be tough to compete with.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 9 lety +3

      Ian Alix hoping for da same . im saving up for zen ..

    • @generalkitten2100
      @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

      i think zen will be changing force and will give amd marke share but intel would be still on the top BUT when amd get mo ey from zen then they can make better architecture and be better than intel

  • @ShiroKage009
    @ShiroKage009 Před 11 dny +1

    He looks so much better with a beard.

  • @ninjamaster5471
    @ninjamaster5471 Před 9 lety +7

    i say they focus on true cores again like the phenom ii thuban days :)

    • @YorHighness
      @YorHighness Před 9 lety +4

      skotty523 Yes true cores even if it means making the chip bigger. Smaller isnt always better.

    • @amdintelxsniperx
      @amdintelxsniperx Před 9 lety +2

      Yor Highness thats what they are doing making full cores instead of clusters sharing an fpu

    • @THEisaacG
      @THEisaacG Před 8 lety

      Smaller manufacturing process is always better, but yeah, a larger die would be good for performance but very bad for cost, temperatures, and power consumption.

  • @delchavez
    @delchavez Před 4 lety +1

    I didn't realize Troy Aikman was into microchips.

  • @Pervypriest
    @Pervypriest Před 9 lety +6

    I really love AMD and their processors, have been using them for years on. Still it was quite funny when Jim Keller said that the ARM architecture was so new and so was its echo system. Well the first ARM Chip was put to function in 1985 and the first desktop machine using the ARM cpu was The Acorn Archimedies in 1987:)
    So no the architecture is not new at all:)
    Other than that I am very exited about this Skybridge architechure from AMD:)

    • @richardstevens8839
      @richardstevens8839 Před 9 lety +1

      wouldn't this be a RISC architecture chip?

    • @Housesider
      @Housesider Před 9 lety +5

      Think he was referring more specifically to ARMv8, not ARM in general, lol.

    • @richardstevens8839
      @richardstevens8839 Před 9 lety

      ok, I'm confused

    • @Pervypriest
      @Pervypriest Před 9 lety

      Richard Stevens
      Yes I think so since the orginal arm design was a risc architecture.
      However it will be very nice to see arm cpu's in desktop machines again:)

    • @richardstevens8839
      @richardstevens8839 Před 9 lety

      yes I still think about getting an Acorn Archimedes A3010

  • @fossilfern
    @fossilfern Před 9 lety +14

    Is it just this video or does Jim look like he could punch you through 3 walls? Either way hoping AMD start hitting like they did back in the day.

    • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
      @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName Před 9 lety +4

      fossilfern There was another AMD guy that I remember seeing awhile ago who was almost the same way. I'm thinking AMD has free gyms in their buildings that the customers are forced to use. XD

    • @ChildrenOfDesire
      @ChildrenOfDesire Před 8 lety +3

      fossilfern Jim Keller looks like Mark Rippetoes long lost brother hahaha.

    • @hopefullyApro
      @hopefullyApro Před 6 lety +2

      3 years later i can tell you hell yeah

  • @dochollowood5763
    @dochollowood5763 Před 7 lety +1

    THANK YOU TEAM LEADER AND CEO OF ZEN Suzzane Plummer

  • @SamuraiBatgirl
    @SamuraiBatgirl Před 9 lety +4

    Only part that scares me is when Keller says they'll take the best of both of the designs they have. Maaaayyyyybeee if they ONLY get the best from Bulldozer, but otherwise I'd rather they just let it completely die off. Otherwise, I'm pretty excited. In Keller We Trust.

    • @Housesider
      @Housesider Před 9 lety +2

      "Only" take the best from 15h (Bulldozer)? Jaguar (16h) is one of the best designs they've done in a while, and is pretty much superior to anything Intel has in that segment. There's a lot of IP and concepts they could leverage from 16h that would be fantastic for the new designs. But whatever it is they've reused, they've already done so as these architectures have been in development since mid-2012 or so (around the time Keller re-joined AMD.)

    • @SamuraiBatgirl
      @SamuraiBatgirl Před 9 lety

      Naroon201 I haven't really even looked at the mobile stuff. Probably should, but I get distracted pretty easily... =P
      Sounds like if they used some of the Jaguar stuff, or at least the concept, it could help them a lot to get competitive with Intel again.
      Thanks for the info. :)

  • @fishywtf
    @fishywtf Před 9 lety +10

    Intel is spending tremendous amount of money to keep x86 alive, trying to scale down x86 year after year for performance and watts. Too bad they are caught up in greed that they will soon lose out to this ARM market. Pretty sure later on they will try to be a licensee of the HSA technology LOL

    • @Smartcom5
      @Smartcom5 Před 3 lety

      Reality Check from the Future: Intel didn't changed, it got even worse instead. Oh, and AMD came back with a base-drum to beat them.

  • @JackOfAllRAIDs
    @JackOfAllRAIDs Před 8 lety +8

    Keller looks like an aged Kevin Sorbo.

  • @ChrisBenoit4evar
    @ChrisBenoit4evar Před 7 lety +5

    amd zen is looking to be a beast!good job jim!

  • @kathrynkeller6816
    @kathrynkeller6816 Před 6 lety +6

    That’s my dad!!!......who works at Tesla now

    • @RamB0T
      @RamB0T Před 5 lety

      He's a legend in my book. So proud to own a Ryzen CPU

    • @TehNetherlands
      @TehNetherlands Před 4 lety

      I saw him on the Lex Fridman podcast. One of the best podcasts I've seen in a long time.
      Your dad is an absolute legend in the computer industry.

    • @u263a3
      @u263a3 Před 3 lety +1

      You’re dad is awesome

  • @nagyandras8857
    @nagyandras8857 Před 9 lety +8

    allready saving up to get the new amd cpu/platform.
    indeed, i even mailed AMD to get information on how can i invest into AMD.
    i don't earn a lot of money, but i'm willing to put about 1K usd into AMD stocks, i don't care if it is lost money.
    frankly, if i was AMD i would make a kickstarter like crowd founding for the next gen high perfomance cpu line..

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 9 lety +3

      Nagy Andras well there is a certain reason to b optimistic coz amd r only goin to get better from where they currently r bt u shud still b careful though ..

    • @minimonkeyplay
      @minimonkeyplay Před 8 lety

      +Nagy Andras AMD just had a leaked benchmark that shows their new 8 core CPU doing very well. It's memory read speed is on par with Intels I7 6700K, The CPU hash is 3 times better than the I7 5820k.

    • @nagyandras8857
      @nagyandras8857 Před 8 lety

      minimonkeyplay
      can you give me a link ?
      i'd like to see the article.
      thing is AMD on stock speed never made any sense for me :D the fun starts overclockt. why not get all the fun i payd for, right ?

    • @nagyandras8857
      @nagyandras8857 Před 8 lety

      minimonkeyplay
      that is quite interesting, but i think its fake.
      strange clockspeed, and memory timing, and allso strange chipset.
      at least for now i think 3ghz clock is .. not quite what amd aims for.
      but, q4 is not far ahead, will see what amd managed. and more interesting will be how well it takes overclocking.
      since that is the main reason for amd, oc the hell out of it, and get a huge bank for small bucks.

    • @minimonkeyplay
      @minimonkeyplay Před 8 lety

      Nagy Andras This is a brand new processor design that uses ARM and x86 ARM processors are generally clocked lower so I think 3Ghz is normal. Jim Keller has delivered products for AMD before that put them ahead of Intel before.

  • @corkkyle
    @corkkyle Před 4 lety

    How many Jim Keller's are there? Just one. Unique as far as I can tell.

  • @jimmyreynolds3062
    @jimmyreynolds3062 Před 8 lety +4

    I would like to thank AMD for saving my bucks, not only for the price of their CPUs but also for the heat they generate. they warmed my house during cold winters, so no need for central heating

    • @tiffles3890
      @tiffles3890 Před 8 lety

      +Jimmy Reynolds So basically you had to shell out extra cash for aftermarket coolers... so extra cash spent .... joke nullified.

    • @jimmyreynolds3062
      @jimmyreynolds3062 Před 8 lety

      Gaurab Chatterjee no i didnt get any coolers. i enjoyed the heat so i didnt have to pay for central heating, the only downside is the performence though hh

    • @tiffles3890
      @tiffles3890 Před 8 lety

      Jimmy Reynolds Was the performance bad?

    • @jimmyreynolds3062
      @jimmyreynolds3062 Před 8 lety

      Gaurab Chatterjee yes. only windows explorer is on and the fans kick in

    • @tiffles3890
      @tiffles3890 Před 8 lety

      Jimmy Reynolds lel

  • @miyagiryota9238
    @miyagiryota9238 Před rokem

    Learning about arm leveraged in x86 at 7:30 -7:47; no wonder ryzen architecture is power efficient with the high clocks of x86!

    • @zackrider3708
      @zackrider3708 Před rokem

      Arm and x86 isa, have nothing in common, you cannot just copy-paste features of arm to x86

  • @mjv1121
    @mjv1121 Před 9 lety

    At 10:21. what is Skyrose? Skyross Skyros?

    • @emmalong2178
      @emmalong2178 Před 9 lety +4

      The ARM interconnect / fabric.

    • @mjv1121
      @mjv1121 Před 9 lety

      Emma Long Thanks for that

  • @jforkhan
    @jforkhan Před 4 lety

    And after 3-4 years almost everybody start bying RyZen CPUs and AMD become a king in the market

  • @zackrider3708
    @zackrider3708 Před rokem

    The team of engineers that develop amd's zen core or microArchitecture, it had at least 50 members, am i right ?

  • @starofeden9277
    @starofeden9277 Před 7 lety

    so in contrast ...ZEN is actually a redesigned ARM and Orochi cores cpu ..so we know wat to expect in power delivery...there isnt actual talk of zen here just arm cpu's

  • @THEisaacG
    @THEisaacG Před 8 lety +5

    Everybody who listens to this just got smarter... if by a tiny margin.

  • @KeikoFXDesigns
    @KeikoFXDesigns Před 8 lety

    Interesting. I am also interested when AMD DDR4 motherboards will be released for the AM4 designs.

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 8 lety

      I really hope am4 will use an lga design instead of pga.

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 8 lety

      ***** actually, lga allows is a sturdier design overall and allows for more pins. Amd uses it for its server boards.

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 8 lety

      Actually, lga is not an intel design. Not to mention the 10 cpu insertuon thing is bs. Have removed cpus far more than that
      . About the current : even if true, it doesn't matter in an era when cpus use around a volt.
      Lga allows for higher pin density, which means smaller packages.
      Did i mention the times when people removed their coolers and the cpu stuck to it, breaking the pins in the process?

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 8 lety +1

      ***** also, if it truly was a superior design, why the heck would amd use it for servers where stability and absolute performance is key?

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 8 lety

      ***** forgot to mention the only reason amd uses pga ia because of cost

  • @biocomputers7076
    @biocomputers7076 Před 8 lety +1

    .. in Ashes of the Singularity running Directx 12 , my A10 7870k + Asus R9 390 8GB , 55.5 FPS 1080 High
    blows away an Intel 8core + GTX 980 ti that gets about 44 FPS in the same test, costing $2000 more ?
    AMD is about to rule the world of men

    • @hanniffydinn6019
      @hanniffydinn6019 Před 8 lety

      IT has more to do with the drivers working properly and nividia fucking over amd. Amd has always had fast stuff, now that mantle as morphed into vulkan, amd cards will always be faster than nividia. So fingers crossed the next gen will blow Nvidia and Intel out of the water. The underdog is always doing Cooler stuff. Don't forget amd built 64 bit, Intel still license that from amd !!!!

    • @generalkitten2100
      @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

      +Hanniffy Dinn it is not good that it and nvidia is blown out i just hope everything is 60 40 60 to amd 40 to it and nvid then we could get more good products

  • @RobertCarrizal
    @RobertCarrizal Před 9 lety +2

    come back FX Steamroller 28nm or 22NM!!!

  • @nabilnahal7802
    @nabilnahal7802 Před 3 lety

    Keller is a real killer engineer

  • @hidragerrum
    @hidragerrum Před 7 lety

    dream comes true

  • @jorgezorros8609
    @jorgezorros8609 Před 7 lety +3

    Jim "Certified Shit Wrecker" Keller pulled it off again!

  • @pow1983
    @pow1983 Před 7 lety +1

    Sadly since his second departure they're already experiencing delays with Zen. It's make or break time

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr Před 7 lety +3

      there have been no delays

    • @pow1983
      @pow1983 Před 7 lety +1

      juggernautxtr It was to be out by Q4 2016, that slipped to Q1 2017 although now we now know it's Jan 2017. It is only a Q mind but it's a costly delay nonetheless.

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr Před 7 lety +3

      pow1983
      it was scheduled for release in 2017, there have been NO delays.

  • @YorHighness
    @YorHighness Před 9 lety +1

    Hey AMD you dont fool me I remember bulldozer. You got me once never again.

  • @liekexdrox3774
    @liekexdrox3774 Před 8 lety

    But hope AMD doesn't overprice the Summit Ridge.

  • @cestarianinhabitant5898
    @cestarianinhabitant5898 Před 8 lety +1

    So you've been talking about this for years, when we gonna get it?

    • @SirMo
      @SirMo Před 8 lety

      +Cestarian Inhabitant October 2016 sounds likely.

    • @tylerweigand8875
      @tylerweigand8875 Před 8 lety

      In q4 2016 the first Zen CPUs should come

  • @cjrciadt
    @cjrciadt Před 4 lety

    2020

  • @malamri424
    @malamri424 Před 9 lety +2

    how about a dual core with ht and insane IPC and L2 cache. This way we don't have to worry about poorly optimized games.

    • @TheCountess666
      @TheCountess666 Před 9 lety +4

      alamrisa we've long ago hit the wall of diminishing returns on single threaded IPC. improving IPC radically just can't be done anymore without a core that's either far too large and/or far to power hungry.

    • @malamri424
      @malamri424 Před 9 lety

      The Countess what about better memory controllers? the ones we have now on AMD aren't good. High latency when accessing ram.

    • @TheCountess666
      @TheCountess666 Před 9 lety +3

      alamrisa the difference in memory latency between bulldozer and intel's i7's at the time wasn't that high.
      the biggest latency increase came from the L3 which has a latency twice that of intel's CPU's at the time it was introduced, even at the higher clock frequencies bulldozer ran at.
      i dont like intel, (monopoly abuse isn't something that's forgivable) but they did a good job on their L3 cache's. compact and very low latency. i hope AMD can steal some of of their idea's there.

    • @malamri424
      @malamri424 Před 9 lety

      The Countess Great insight, thanks for sharing. ;)

    • @generalkitten2100
      @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

      +The Countess stealing is not nice

  • @ps4legend231
    @ps4legend231 Před 8 lety

    will the new cpu be able to play Minecraft?

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety +2

      +James Sunderland yes on 360p low

    • @generalkitten2100
      @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

      no new cpu to play minecraft with 200 mods and 128 gigs of ram because why the hell not

  • @amdguru34
    @amdguru34 Před 7 lety

    He reminds me of George Thorogood.

  • @AtiCrossfireX
    @AtiCrossfireX Před 8 lety +4

    Damn, once again Jim Keller Leaves AMD for good.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety +28

      +AtiCrossfireX his job is done. keeping him is expensive

    • @tylerweigand8875
      @tylerweigand8875 Před 8 lety +2

      He left after 3 years. 3 years is enough to get the foundations down as well as most of the design itself. Jim left in September 2015 and it was rumored Zen taped out around end of 2015 beginning of 2016. 3 months difference-obviously that shows when Jim left Zen was basically done.

  • @koolBOY8323
    @koolBOY8323 Před 8 lety

    it's just too bad he left AMD for tesla. hopefully zen does really well and can carry AMD a while until either they come up with something better, or Jim comes back.

    • @timytimotius4679
      @timytimotius4679 Před 2 lety

      Well amd had no problem with jim leaving amd for tesla.

  • @WarsunGames
    @WarsunGames Před 9 lety

    But will it go into Playstation???

    • @bossmaniacgames
      @bossmaniacgames Před 8 lety

      +WarsunGames yes and xbox and nintendo nx to maybe

    • @WarsunGames
      @WarsunGames Před 8 lety

      *****
      Oh great.Because I didn't do research this time.Thanks :D

  • @generalkitten2100
    @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

    funny my athlon x4 750 is pwerful as some i7 s

  • @Doom2pro
    @Doom2pro Před 8 lety

    You can tell Keller is sick and tired of x86 design and loves Arm design... It's no wonder he left for Samsung after finishing his tenor with AMD, especially since they delayed/canned the Arm-K12/Skybridge projects in favor of x86 Zen project.

    • @NoshNosher
      @NoshNosher Před 8 lety

      +Doom2pro But he didn't leave for Samsung, he works at Tesla now.

    • @Doom2pro
      @Doom2pro Před 8 lety

      +Nosh Nosher And yet when I made my post it was well known he was headed to Samsung... The Tesla rumor just popped up in the last hour or so.

    • @NoshNosher
      @NoshNosher Před 8 lety +6

      Doom2pro It's not rumor, it's fact.

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 Před 8 lety

    i hope that Zen will be something and not only new bulldozer - faildozer because it can be end of AMD on cpu-markets!! especially now when Intel release at market 14nm Skylake&Broadwell cpu-s and i5-6600k literrally piss fx 9590 in 95% of tasks &games at base clock 3,5 Ghz

    • @thepcgamer2169
      @thepcgamer2169 Před 8 lety

      Mr11ESSE111 You condescending fucker of AMD Athlon & R7 garbage where intel pisses over everything.
      Now your saying Intel is better than AMD ???
      You very stupid asswipe telling everyone AMD is better and now you change your stupid sawdust brain.
      Why say Intel is overpriced when it clearly has better performance than any AMD junk....oh wait you own cheap AMD glorified junk that's nothing special.

    • @Mr11ESSE111
      @Mr11ESSE111 Před 8 lety

      ThePc Gamer you stupid fool without brain and without mighty Dacia Dokker 1,2 TcE 115hp in your wooden stupid garage ,mwahahah

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 Před 8 lety

    so he went to TESLA?????? all is forgiven dude then! :)

  • @ThunderKat
    @ThunderKat Před 9 lety

    When they start talking about arms and legs i don't understand shit :S

  • @proplayer682
    @proplayer682 Před 8 lety

    what's the point being interviewed by his own employee, challenging lol

  • @hellowalkman4506
    @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety

    Jim Keller has joined Tesla ..

  • @DavidStanleymusic
    @DavidStanleymusic Před 9 lety

    bulldozer pile driver steamroller excavator
    the ground work is done
    among other improvements the high bandwidth memory will make the apu a neat gaming system
    HSA full steam into the future

  • @jozefsk7456
    @jozefsk7456 Před 4 lety

    this guy gets abducted. single-handedly pushing cpu technology from both ends of the competition race? no way its not aliens :D

  • @slatehound
    @slatehound Před 10 lety +1

    "Power efficient processors" HAHAHAHAHA

    • @emmalong2178
      @emmalong2178 Před 10 lety +23

      Jaguar is hyperbolically more power efficient than Ivy Bridge even though Ivy Bridge is 22nm and Jaguar is 28nm.

    • @slatehound
      @slatehound Před 10 lety

      Emma Long lol I might be in the wrong video to comment that above statement but hell, as an internet user I just want to voice my disagreement with things and criticize all I want. You are though correct but as an individual who aint lookin for a bundled GPU and CPU together, AMD is clearly not my choice. toots to you.

    • @emmalong2178
      @emmalong2178 Před 10 lety +27

      Kyle G You're wrong about that as well. AMD still offers fantastic CPUs at and below the 150$ price point that frankly have absolutely no competition from intel.
      You can choose to glorify a brand and be forced into the ignorant pack mentality but that will only lead us into another pentium 4 fiasco.

    • @Housesider
      @Housesider Před 10 lety +6

      Kyle G If you don't want a bundled CPU and GPU together, your only option is Intel's LGA-2011 platform, which is nothing more than a line of over-priced gimped Xeon processors which start at $550+ for the hexacores. Why anyone would want to go to that platform just to get another quad-core with SMT enabled is beyond me.

    • @SimonZellox
      @SimonZellox Před 4 lety +1

      This comment has not aged very well

  • @cookingsection568
    @cookingsection568 Před 4 lety +1

    Big loss for intel!

  • @renerebe
    @renerebe Před 4 lety

    Unfortunately rather unconcrete high level story time avoiding to answer any details:-/

  • @jimmyreynolds3062
    @jimmyreynolds3062 Před 8 lety

    AMD you are done. you'd better move to mobile platforms like Qualcomm

    • @TAPS147
      @TAPS147 Před 8 lety +5

      Don't hope for that! I'm sure the crooks over at intel would gladly charge $1000 for an i5 with no competition...

    • @tylerweigand8875
      @tylerweigand8875 Před 8 lety +5

      +TAPS147 Not true... If AMD died anti monopoly laws would kick in and Intel would be split into two or more companies, and then we'd get multiple Intel's charging 1000 for an i5 :D
      So yeah, I really hope Zen is good. Competition always benefits the customer.

    • @ericfahnestock1031
      @ericfahnestock1031 Před 7 lety

      +Tyler Weigand the anti monopoly laws wouldn't apply. They aren't the only ones able to make CPUs. They're just the ones who make the CPUs that everybody buys.

    • @tylerweigand8875
      @tylerweigand8875 Před 7 lety

      Eric Fahnestock They're the only ones that make consumer laptop and desktop CPUs besides AMD though.
      Anyhow, we recently got a benchmark that indicates zen ipc is similar to Broadwell which in my eyes means... Competition! Sure, zen isn't gonna flat out beat Intel but it looks like it's at least gonna give them a run for their money.

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 Před 7 lety

      Even in a true monopoly situation, at least in the x86-64 market, Intel couldn't charge $1000 for something like an i5 because no one would buy it. They can't just charge whatever they want and have people still buy. People already aren't buying at current prices.
      Also, there are too many similar products these days for something like this to happen. A $1,000 mainstream processor would just encourage further investment into areas like smartphones, tablets, Chromebooks, and set top boxes. They aren't 1-to-1 substitutes now but that would quickly change in an environment where the competition increased prices by 400%.

  • @killermoon635
    @killermoon635 Před 9 lety

    I expect Zen to be just an overrated and overhyped just like phonom, bulldozer, kaverie, HSA or whatever crap they release
    And Jim Keller is just one person. The success of Zen does not depend on one person, but the whole team.

    • @TheCountess666
      @TheCountess666 Před 9 lety +6

      maroom1 every single one of the things you mentioned we designed after keller left.
      And keller might only be 1 person, but as lead architect he lays the foundation for everything else. the main things letting phenom en bulldozer down were the designs. one was far to conservative, and the other far to radical for the state of current software.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 9 lety +1

      maroom1 zen will kick intel's ass for good !!

    • @killermoon635
      @killermoon635 Před 9 lety

      Sayan Sen
      Thats what AMD fanboys always say. Same thing they said about phenom and bulldozer.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 9 lety

      maroom1 yea n possibly before k7 / k8 when keller was there so i m finding a trend here ..

    • @vijayzakhiev215
      @vijayzakhiev215 Před 9 lety +2

      maroom1 Phenom was good, the 3 core and 6 core variants were good bang for buck CPUs and the quads were not far behind C2Q either. Don't be a fanboy, it's pointless and stupid.

  • @heinrichberthold7839
    @heinrichberthold7839 Před 8 lety

    Pff all talk and hype just like with faildozer. Get back to me when AMD actually makes something worth buying.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety

      +Heinrich Berthold they already do .. you are not too observant ..

    • @heinrichberthold7839
      @heinrichberthold7839 Před 8 lety

      Really and tell me what would that be? In single thread performance they aren't close to the I5 or I7. In multi thread performance they easily get beaten by the I7 and Xeon. In the server field again the Xeon is better and out performs the Opteron. So tell me where is the great chip you talk of that is actually worth buying because as of now AMD is virtually non existent.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety

      Heinrich Berthold up to 200$ they make great value for money hardware

    • @SirMo
      @SirMo Před 8 lety

      +Heinrich Berthold Their video cards are pretty nice. Fury X is a beast. Much better than nVidia for DX12 games and cryptocurrency mining.

    • @generalkitten2100
      @generalkitten2100 Před 8 lety

      my athlon x4 750 is better than some i7

  • @lupuradu
    @lupuradu Před 8 lety

    And the fucking traitor left amd once again( or so i read). He didn't even wait for the launch of the zen processor, and joined nvidia. We need AMD to become competitive because once they do that, intel will be forced to lower their prices,that's ofc if they don't have some spare designs on the shelves waiting for amd to make a move. What i expect though is to see some drops in the i5's current price tags.

    • @hellowalkman4506
      @hellowalkman4506 Před 8 lety +2

      +Radu Lupu he is no trailtor :P The design is done and he has joined Tesla .

    • @drandysin2796
      @drandysin2796 Před 8 lety

      He does this a lot and with a lot of companies, he's done this to Intel and AMD before as well Samsung, Apple, etc. business as usual, actually.