The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the BEST Terminator
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- 👀 SPOILERS for the entire series, you've been warned!
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the BEST Terminator adaptation set to film. There could be better stuff in the comics, etc. but I haven't read them as of yet.
And stop blindly saying T2 is TEH BESTEST TERMINATOR1! It's good, but chillax...
The Terminator franchise is a broken mess of hot garbage, but there IS a light at the end of the tunnel.
⏳ T I M E S T A M P S :
@01:03 - Terminator Series Roundup
@04:17 - Alternative Timelines
@06:48 - New Antagonists
@09:40 - New Protagonists
@13:54 - The Fallibility of John Connor
@17:15 - Dealing with Loss
@19:21 - New Musical Themes
@21:16 - The Fox Curse/Where was it headed?
Enjoy! Or don't. But be warned, Danny Elfman is watching...
Riveting... GET IT! Because she's a robot, and... yeah, I'll see myself out.
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Great video going over this underrated show. The Sarah Connor Chronicles in my opinion is the best Terminator sequel to follow T2. A show that felt true to the essence of what made Terminator. It honored the past while also exploring new things within the mythos. It's a shame we didn't get to see a third season.
Thanks! And, agreed - the cancellation was equal to Fox’s cancellation to Firefly, for me 😭
They call it the Summer Glau curse... shes great, been in both shows obviously. But both cancelled.
@@kanesmraussieboi788 She was a guest in Alphas, Dollhouse… both cut fairly short 😒 It’s criminal.
@@kanesmraussieboi788 Perhaps she is a terminator.....of shows she's in
@@ryanstaomg bro
This series was absolutely amazing! It's sad that they cancelled it on only two seasons and many people were sad that they cancelled it. It had so much potential😭
Darn tootin’
They canceled it because it was good….no joke, they make sure television sucks and has a leftist agenda
Still tho best terminator content
That shat cliffhanger.
One of the only shows i had to read a "fanfic" to get closure.
The thing that always struck me about TSCC, was I always had it in my head the notion a really good Terminator sequel would have been *A* future Skynet realizing Judgment Day was a strategic error, but acknowledging the inevitability of its own creation thanks to bootstrapping itself into existence, sending a Terminator into the past to manipulate the circumstances of its own creation to avert Judgment Day.
Then TSCC comes out and the eleventh hour revelations about a cyborg resistance play out, just close enough to finally make me happy about the direction the franchise was going after T2...and it gets Foxed. Because of course it did.
Most under-rated comment of the thread.
That's the thing, in the comics, Skynet eventually reached a point where the war was just going to go on and on forever and that it eventually sought peace with John, but some other bad actors tried to stop peace between the two, and none of the films ever tried exploring what the tv show and comics tried, it's just so weird (or more the directors/writers of the films are too stubborn to realise that some slight complex stories are fine for audiences).
Such a great show, glad you called out the episode where Cameron discovers the terminator that arrived in the 30s and traced him forward and dealt with him, that was one of my favorite episodes.
And that’s also why I tried to give as few details as possible… love that one AND the conversations with the librarian. That was an incredibly important episode for her character. Didn’t want to spoil much.
@@workingmemories2213 That librarian got a rough deal.
The show was surprisingly very good, and "Cameron" was a very cool terminator. The writing was actually clever, too bad more people didn't appreciate it. Thanks for making this summary.
i thought it was pretty strange that the terminator girl was somehow able to act like a normal person in the beginning and blend in without anyone knowing she was a terminator yet after a few episodes she somehow lost that ability and always acted like a stoic emotionless machine (which she was) or an alien from another planet...but nothing like in the first couple episodes where she seemed like a normal high school girl
@@masteriansun not really she is not a 800 series at start she did it to blend in with connor high school later che diden´t have to hide just make it even more good and realistic
@@danborg1228 i know she did it to blend in yet later she was incapable of blending in somehow, she was the same terminator but acted like a different character, inconsistent writing for the sake of a TV show that i just couldn't buy into
@@masteriansun she only blends when infiltrating, when did she need to blend in later on?
I got it at this awesome thrift shop in Echo Park 😶
The show is hands down the best third installment.
Agreed, although I’d pay money for a “Carl’s Drapery” spinoff series…
i love that scene where derrick shows john the two kids playing as he explains who John's father was and at the very end he reveals that the two kids playing are Derrick and his little brother who is john's father.
it was such a bitter sweet scene to see as john got to see his father as a kid and appreciate his origins into the world and the sacrifices that were made by his dad and his mother and just everyone who kept fighting to save the future from the terminators, even though the show didn't really end well.
I loved that scene as well… so many great scenes in the show. Another favourite is Derek finding the beauty in Cameron’s dancing (despite hating her for everything she stood for).
Changing that Kyle was born after the war not bothered me but it was worth it entirely to have that moment
@@ursidae97
no this scene was before the war not after.
unless this is what you meant.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w that's what I meant. In the movie, Kyle states he was born after the war. In the show we see him and Derek were born before the war
@@ursidae97
oh ok now i get your comment. yeah i guess they took some liberties in the story line and made some changes, but i understand some shows have to do stuff like this.
however it could also be due to something that changed in the timeline when they prevented or at least slowed down cyberdyne's advances in tech which could explain another time line started and delayed the war from the original time line.
just my thoughts on this, i could be wrong though.
Thank you so much for this man! I haven't rewatched this show since it ended, but this really brought back the memories. It is really the best expansion of Terminator lore outside of the first two movies. You could tell they really respected Cameron's work, but at the same time they weren't afraid to explore deeper topics that a tv series can give you. They knew they couldn't compete directly with the originals in terms of big spectacle action (something the later films tried to do and failed), so they went with more engaging character development and suspense. Absolute shame it was cancelled before it finished its main plots.
Best thing about this series is how memorial so many scenes are. Terminator in a classroom, Terminator eating for first time on screen, complete infiltration (like posing as a parent) etc... And of course any of the implied romance scenes between John and Cameron, showing how (just like in T2) a machine can truly make a bond relationship with a human. Especially the scene were Cameron, while attempting to kill John, uses the "I love you and you love me" approach.
As the video showed, Cameron mentioned there is a deep urge to kill John. But T2 clearly showed a machine can develop near true emotions/empathy (understanding) in the end. So does Cameron also love John back? Question I've always asked, but will never know answer.
You’re welcome!
Re: does she love him… I don’t know… I think Cameron misses him when she’s sent back to the past and possibly longs for him? She seems cold and dismissive in the future - it’s possible that John doesn’t have time for anything by war but in the past she can grow with him and - oh man, I have so many more questions now 😵💫
Thanks so much for this analysis. It's very unfortunate that there wasn't and likely will never be a continuation to this series made in the same vein with the same caliber. But it's fun to speculate what might have been with the way that the show sets up each character's stories for the future.
Although I believe the writing in this show was excellent, I don't feel it is fair to necessarily place it above T1 and T2 writing as far as time travel logic goes. Those movies had an approach to time travel where you could apply the slinky version. I think it was the CZcams channel OneTake that did an analysis. It's actually quite sound writing that makes more sense when you view those movies in this lens, even in light of the paradoxes.
P.S. I love the Danny Elfman parts in this video. Those were great!
Shame on FOX for cancelling this show
They also cancelled Firefly and Dollhouse around the same time. All good shows.
Nothing to do with FOX. ... NBC cancelled another show I loved, called Emerald City.
I miss this show; it is the only post-T2 Terminator media that carries the spirit of the first two (minus Terminator Resistance, which is an amazing game and prequel). This series really does deserve one more movie or season to tie everything up. Too bad it's been 10+ years...
Yeah, I’d like to check out the game… there was a fan made project going on as well that looked neat.
You could try Vivy, the anime. It's not the same, but another variant of the same story, with a gynoid as main character.
@@workingmemories2213 I highly recommend it if you can. It's on PC and the PS5 is getting a "GOTY" like edition with all the DLC. On PC it is not too demanding performance wise. I played it with a GTX 1070 on ultra.
@@NoidoDev Hmm I'll have to give it a look! I'm an anime fan and I'm always looking for new ones to check out.
@@roguesquadron521 It's great, but I didn't mean another variant of the love story. There's no John Connor.
Sarah Connor is always in our hearts. Thanks for the video.
You’re most welcome 😉
Granted, I knew about the cliffhanger before I'd ever watched the series, but I've never been particularly bothered by the open-ended conclusion. For one thing, they get to that point by everyone reaching a significant development in their character growth, so it's satisfying on that level. Additionally it's easy to read the ending as saying, "After all the stress and heartache the knowledge of his future has caused John, he is finally free to make his own path." Granted, given how we'd started to see him grow into Future John throughout Season 2, he's still likely to step into a leadership position anyway, but this time it'll be entirely his decision.
I agree with your sentiments, but I guess the heartache comes from losing out on story ideas and narrative choices that are outside of the norm for this franchise. All the films are carbon copies, minus Salvation... and the show was starting to significantly stray from the path. Would've been neat to see some new and weird stuff.
I like the idea that one person comes back in time and someone they know does after they do and they have alternate timeline memories.
Agreed - makes everything far more interesting and it allows for new narratives to be explored.
The Sara Conner Chronicles is like if T2 and The Sopranos had a baby.
Admittedly, I’ve only seen clips here and there but I’m aware of how awesome The Sopranos is 😬 One day I’ll get to it, promise 🤞
I JUST NOTICED YOUR HANDLE. Pinned.
@@workingmemories2213 NOOCE!! Don't forget the MFT when you embark on The Sopranos!!
@@MintyFreshTurds Thou shalt not go forgotten.
@@workingmemories2213 Thou subscribed!
I really liked The Sarah Conner Chronicles, it was ahead of it's time. It had a fair few "terminator of the week" episodes, but had a good arc, it's a pity it didn't get a third season.
Lena Headey was a worthy successor as Sarah Conner and Summer Glau stole the scenes she was in and thankfully not just used as eye candy which it could have sadly fallen into.
I agree with all of these talking points - although there were a few moments of sexual tension where Cameron knew how to get John how to respond to her... re-watching these scenes for the discussion made me wonder if they would have played Cameron differently if this were re-made now. WOW this was 13 years ago. I'm so old, lol.
@@workingmemories2213 Yep, I imagine Cameron would be played very differently these days. She and John do have a unusual vibe /tension to say the least. It's not a bad thing.
Season 1 though had stuff to offer. To my mind it was a pity the John and Cameron trying to blend into highschool thing could have been explored further, maybe his highschool gang becoming key lieutenants in the future or giving John his first experience of command?
I liked them trying to blend in with all the varied high-schoolers as well - more time with that concept would have allowed Cameron to grow that much more - like how she learned a bit of empathy with the teen girl that eventually committed suicide.
As mentioned by RedLetterMedia - I wanna see John go to prom and have to take Cameron because there's gonna be a potential Terminator attack... or because silly like they've been voted Prom King/Queen - something really outta left place (and kinda John Hughes-ish). Heck, it could be like The Breakfast Club! Yeah, I've probably had too much coffee today. 😵💫
Seeing John's leadership would have been nice; we kinda of see that with the Martin Bedell episode, but that was more his uncle.
One day Josh Friedman will crack and tell us what we missed out on. He said he wouldn't, but eventually enough time will pass...
@@workingmemories2213 Ha, that would have been a cute episode...or John taking his "step-sister" to the prom because no one else would go? I can see why they didn't continue the highschool thing, as Summer Glau was I think in her mid to late 20's during shooting and it would have looked somewhat silly, almost Charisma Carpenter in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, playing a highschooler at 30!
That, and John's teenage emo hair HAD to go. Was so happy in Season 2 when he chopped it off.
I've watched the series multiple times and will have to say your review is the most thorough and complete on you tube. I never realized it was cancelled due to having lower ratings than that other show on fox(cant remember name) SCC was a hundred times better IMO. Its a crying shame season 3 was never aired. This is on the same level as cancelling star trek after 3 seasons. Thanks for the thorough review and insights into this awesome TV show.
Thanks for the nice comment! And yes, way better than Dollhouse… I watched both at the time and have retained next to nothing about Dollhouse.
At least Trek was brought back in movies etc. 😭
@@workingmemories2213 I tried to like dollhouse but it wasn't put together too well.
I just finished watching it for the first time was so disappointed that it was canceled 3rd season would've been awesome.
(With clenched teeth) I KNOW. Those last 4 minutes held SO MUCH POTENTIAL. Stupid Fox executives…
@@workingmemories2213, it's not the first time they were idiots...
Likely not the last. But when I looked into it more… the guy that allowed it to be cancelled for Dollhouse has done lots of good since that at Fox and even other platforms… I think it was just a bad call for an otherwise decent dude.
He introduced Brooklyn Nine-Nine, new Girl, Fringe, Animation Domination High-Def…
And whilst at other studios, his accolades include:
The Sopranos, Empire, The Office, 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights, The Shield, ER, Law & Order and Glee, among others…
And when at WarnerMedia he was instrumental in making the Snyder Cut a thing.
I can’t fault the guy… Joss was a hot ticket at the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I really miss this show. I wish they would finish it. 1 or 2 seasons to complete it
They were contemplating making a movie, kinda like Battlestar… but it never materialized 😒
Anyone trying to "reboot" the franchise doing something else is utterly stupid. Well, except Summer has children and is retired now...
16:47 Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles was a good action-drama series. Such a shame it was cancelled after 2 seasons, and it ended before it's time. It was an inspiration behind Terminator Genisys. Summer Glau was the best thing about Sarah Connor Chronicles, and she made the show, and she was born to play Cameron. In December 2022, I met Summer Glau. The Sarah Connor Chronicles should have helped Summer Glau really break out into Hollywood, and she could have been in the MCU. Star Wars. Doctor Who. Game of Thrones etc. I hope one day Summer Glau will revive her acting career and she will get bigger and better roles.
She should have more presence, I agree - at the time she was a guest in nearly every sci-fi show on tv😂
I imagine not being British and/or anywhere near Britain kept her out of Who.
I can’t imagine anything from the show carrying over to Genisys… was it the young Sarah idea?
Speaking of Who… Matt Smith was criminally underused in T5 (and Star Wars, with whatever secret role he had).
@@workingmemories2213 I met Summer Glau last year.
@danielwilliamson6180 That’s awesome!
Finally a video that reviews and brings attention to this awesome series. The only other good one I've seen is JoBlo's.
Each character is flawed, three-dimensional and interesting. They make sense, no matter if they're antagonists or protagonists.
It explored so much interesting concepts but still respected the first 2 films. As most, Cameron's character is my favorite, but like the others, she plays off of the others, their dynamics make this happen.
One of my favorite scenes is Summer's beautiful ballet routine and the scene's multi-level implications: There is absolutely no logical, computational reason for a machine whose job is to protect John Connor, to be dancing ballet by herself, alone in her own room. It serves zero tactical purpose. It is only a frivolous waste of power cell energy. The implication is therefore that she is doing it because she wants to. Because she likes it. The implications of that are enormous. Especially in light of Sarah's preceding monologue about them not being able to perform art and culture, because otherwise they BECOME humanity. it's made even better by Derek being the one to see her dancing: John probably would have been impressed, and Sarah probably would have thought it strange. But Derek has seen first hand the destruction that Skynet and the Terminators have wrought, living in a shattered world, and always seeing them as instruments of destruction (and thus always giving Cameron short shrift). So for him to see her doing something beautiful and creative disturbs him on a primal level, and he doesn't know what to think. And you can see that on his face at the end there.
Thanks! Yeah, his vid is good for sure.
And agreed - obviously the scene exists because she does ballet IRL, but carrying over the trait to a killing machine highlights some interesting aspects of her development.
I imagine that killer cyborgs still have to exercise the muscle and tissue atop their endoskeleton, but she’s not choosing a utilitarian option for that end goal.
Catherine Weaver:
"They flow from street to street. At a particular speed, and in a particular direction. Walk the block, wait for the signal, cross at the light. Over and Over. So orderly. All day, I can watch them and know with a great deal of certainty what they'll do at any given moment. But they're not orderly, are they? Up close. Any individual. Who knows what they're going to do? Any one of them might dash across the street at the wrong time and get hit by a car. When you get up close, we never follow the rules. You give a computer a series of rules and it will follow them. Until those rules are superseded by other rules, or that computer simply wears down and quits. Computers are obedient to a fault. Do you know what's extremely rare in the world of computers? Finding one that will cross against the light."
@@stevenlarson3316 And the fact that she gives this great speech moments before she kills a dude, lol. I loved her admiration of her son and her obvious disinterest in humanity🤣
@@workingmemories2213 I'm not sure it's disinterest, but it's definitely more machine logic than empathy. She says this to Ellison later on.
Weaver: I'm staying here.
Ellison: Why?
Weaver: Someone needs to protect John Henry.
Ellison: John Henry? This is your daughter. There's a machine out there looking for her. You need to protect her.
Ellison: (They enter an elevator) I'm sorry.
Weaver: You should be.
Weaver: What you need to understand, Mr. Ellison, what I believe you're beginning to understand, is that when my behavior implies that I value John Henry's survival more than that of my own daughter, is not because I love John Henry more than Savannah. It's because I believe Savannah's survival may someday depend upon John Henry's survival. And because I believe that your survival may someday depend upon John Henry's survival. I'll meet with Sarah Connor. Make it happen.
Thank you for mentioning Bear McCreary's and Brad Fidel's music in this video. I've made a few variations on Terminator scores on FL Studio. There's a really good one on CZcams from Bonnie Nightmare called, "Terminator 5 Genisys T 1000 Theme," that's worth hearing. It's about 7 years old.
I will check out your work once I’m home 😎
I’m a big music guy, but I tried to keep the music section to a minimum for the sake of the average viewer.
Alex Ball has amazing “How the music was made” videos; I was gonna include a reference to it, but my video was bloated enough already 😬
@@workingmemories2213 What a koinkidink! Alex Ball is on my Favorites list already. His video about how the music from T2 was made is how I found the Brassfall sound for FL Studio.
What I loved about the show is that it was character driven while also exploring a fight being fought in so many timelines that not even Skynet could possibly know the outcome of all time travels. Instead of playing it cheap like so many time travel stories, SCC showed that if time travel is possible, then it's actually impossible to track down an original timeline to root for, because any timeline is already compromised, the grandfather paraxod is out of the discussion and everything is possible moments before the event horizon of Judgment Day... even the date itself of Judgement Day.
Also, who else remembers California Drones?
Skynet would legit have their hands full travelling to every possible timeline if they REALLY wanted to get the job done.
California drones? Not sure of the reference.
@@workingmemories2213 in the S2 mid-season episode, Sarah was tracking down the Three Dots (a rather cryptic subplot) and that lead her to an UFO convention that happened to have in display a wide variety of so called "California Drones" that were casuing revolt in real life, but in the last scene, she ends up watching one of them.
TSCC creator Josh Friedman denied California Drones were part of a viral campaign for the show, yet no other info about those things is found about them, leading me to believe he lied and that was a plotpoint that unfortunately went unresolved, as so many other cool ideas in the series.
The Sarah Connor Chronciles tv show is definitely THE best form of post T2 sequel :), it indeed explores so many interesting things, the season 2 also having glimpses of the future war which I loved! (the Salvation film was one attempt at depicting the Future War which fell kind of flat and certainly was not there yet, the flashforwards in original movie and T2 and older John looking badass overseeing the battlefield...well Salvation wasn't there yet :) but the tv show actually hinted at many amazing ideas and possibilities in the future and actually managed to believably show a teenage John GROWING into the role of the savior of humankind and great military leader! Plus the motif of temporal war between human resistance and machines sending back both terminators and human fighters to rig the future in their favor was interesting.
I loved this show!! For even more fun, listen to the commentaries on the DVDs/Blurays. The cast got along really well and the behind the scenes details they add are super funny! 🤖💀
Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to at some point. I don't have a lot of time to myself, but I'll get around to it.
so this video was in my recommended feed, it's weird too, because youtube must have remembered i love this show, or maybe it's because i watched a clip from T2 earlier today and your video just so happened to be freshly uploaded lol.
i was watching that classic scene where Arnold walks into the bar and he's completely butt naked and he gets his clothing and his gun and his bike and sunglasses from that bar lol.
that is such a great scene, even for a old 90s movie, it just holds up so well.
That entire film still holds up - and yes, CZcams knows… it knows all 🤪
Great video from such a tiny channel! This was my favorite show in 2007-2008 and it's a damn shame it didn't get one more season to close things out and see the peace between man and machine, as well as seeing John in the new timeline become the leader of the resistance.
Derek’s death was devastating. But I loved the way it was staged.
I am totally OG. *THE TERMINATOR* (1984) is the Fabergé egg among Terminator films. Nothing compares. It’s the closest a sci-fi film has ever come to perfection in its bare bones. I love The Sarah Connor Chronicles for what it is: the best sequel ever of a TV series to a theatre film. T2 has humor, pathos, and great effects, but it isn’t necessary to the essential plot line.
His death was like WAIT, WHAT?!
You might be the only commenter thus far who isn’t afraid to take T2 of its pedestal 😂
@@workingmemories2213 I don’t like movies that deliberately try to tug at my heartstrings. T2’s good parts started with Michelle Goldstein as John’s foster mother, Janelle, assuring the terminator/fake John that “Wolfie” is “just fine,” at which point the terminator abruptly hangs up and tells John, “Your foster parents are dead.” Then we cut to Janelle/evil terminator looking up her arm, we along with her, until we see the arm ending in a sword piercing the carton of milk that foster-dad Todd is drinking from, and further piercing Todd’s head. Damn, that was great!
There are very few scenes like that in T2, but *THE TERMINATOR* and “The Sarah Connor Chronicles” are consistently hitting us in the gut - “I love you too, sweetheart” and Jessie killing Riley, for instance - without needing to pull any strings. T2 is a YA movie.
@@Hollis_has_questions I’m okay with some melodrama and heartstring tugging - as long as it’s not 100% a manufactured moment.
Derek’s death we are left to choose how we feel. Most other tv moments are slow-mo, string quartet and soft lighting Kleenex moments… that’s a tad overkill for me.
I can’t think of any James Cameron films that don’t have that kinda stuff 😝
@@workingmemories2213 *THE TERMINATOR* (1984) doesn’t get weepy. At all. We don’t even have time to reach for a tissue. After that initial success, it’s like Cameron went soft in the head. I exempt *ALIENS* from that complaint, though. Newt is an essential character. I detest movies that try to jerk tears from me. As Bette Davis’s Margo Channing says in *ALL ABOUT EVE:* I detest cheap sentiment.
ETA: In fact, there isn’t a drop of cheap sentiment in *ALL ABOUT EVE* (1950), my all-time #1 film.
I just finished watching this show for the second time. I had forgotten about Derek's death and it was more emotional the second time watching it. The show had so much potential had it continued on to season 3 and season 4.
This show was good, it is a shame it did not run longer.
This was my favorite show at the time, and even though the writing for it was due to the premature cancellation, I am still disappointed with the non sequitur ending. It is too bad the "Save Sarah Connor" movement wasn't successful in getting another network/studio to pick it up and let it finish in it's own time to tell the story/ on it's own terms.
The rights to the property were likely the key factor in no one else getting it 😩
That this show never had a third season is one of the greatest missteps of television history.
The only silver lining was that the showrunners went on to create the 12 monkeys tv series.
ORLY? I'd only heard good things about the show... that makes sense.
Great video! I personally love T3. The only thing i honestly think its got wrong is that it was way funnier than it should've been, it needed a darker tone. Salvation had the the right tone but the story became a mess by trying to fit too much into a single film, but still enjoyable/tolerable. I could've easily turned that film into another trilogy, and close the saga. Genysis (whatever) and Dark Fate are absolute trash, the later being the worst offender I'm my opinion. The Sarah Connor Chronicles was just epic, far better than the last 3 films put together. It even acknowledges T3 and bring the story closer to how the first film is and even surpasses T2 in relevant drama. You mentioned the infiltration aspects and functions of Terminators, that was established in the fist film, so I always considered it a mistake to cast Arnold again in T2 and T3.
T3 was a celebration of excess/parody of the franchise... the tone was definitely intentional. Salvation had a great look and tone, apart from the need to identify new Terminators by shouting them out. It was supposed to spawn a trilogy... womp womp.
Arnie was miscast from a conceptual standpoint... but no one can argue the impression he left on the franchise (for better or worse). He was larger than life, like a robo-killer should be., but they should have made room for other actors.
@@workingmemories2213 I agree, T3's tone was indeed intentional but that tone in some scenes actually work, specifically in the "contemporary" setting, Arnie being too "funny" that is what truly hurt it. Salvation did have 2 of the 3 things it needed, tone and looked great but the story was a damn mess. There is no way I can see them making a trilogy when all the material was already crammed in the damn film. they really screwed up. Still enjoyable, though I think I like the Salvation Machinima film better. a simpler story worked best without dealing the aces in one pass.
This show is so good. I have to physically own it at some point.Theres a very good fanfic on TSCC called "Hope Unleashed". It's mostly about John's struggle in the future and search for Cameron, with people not knowing or trusting him. But through his strategies and tactics from past experiences, he proves himself to the resistance members.
A really awesome plot point is that Sarah never got cancer, and ends up surviving JD. So shes basically old grizzled sarah from Dark Fate. I highly recommend it, since it would've been as good as a potential season 3.
I think you’re referring to the season 3 fanfic I saw when I researched “what was supposed to happen.”
I’ve thought of delving in, but I’m usually weary of fanfic just being wish fulfilment over serving the story. Maybe one day I’ll give it a shot?
As a true Terminator fan, I love all of them. But T1, T2, Salvation and The Sarah Conner arefar better than the others. A Terminator is NOT a cuddly buddy.
This, my friend, was a fantastic watch. Awesome editing too. To find some of the shorts you used would have been a mission. We appreciate the work you put into this.
I've always said if I ever won the big Lotto jackpot, ($1B) I'd hire the original writers, crew, actors, the lot to do what they wanted to do with it originally.
Thanks! If I won the lottery, I'd bankroll a Suspiria (2018) sequel, and THEN a follow up to T:TSCC would be in order.
Loved it. Wish they had been allowed to carry on with a sequel series set in the future after that final jump forward to undo the War With The Machines that Sarah had unwittingly started.
I had read that they wanted to explore a liberal John vs a Conservative Sarah when it comes to use of machines etc. in their future war efforts… are you suggesting she could’ve started the war in this show or is that just a neat story element you’d want to see on screen? It certainly would have ironic flair.
@@workingmemories2213 Sarah's got a pretty hardliner approach to reprogramed Terminators. They are tool's that should be disposed of completely.
The fact that the T-800 in T2 essentially became the perfect father for John, was probably a more terrifying prospect it attempting to kill him or herself.
She likely saw the potential harm, both to him psychologically and his leadership, if John develops too much empathy and attachment to these literal killing machines.
She's not wrong either, as you stated, he would eventually routinely employ the use of reprogramed Terminators and isolate himself from the Human's in the resistance.
Many of them likely would have slaughtered fellow resistance fighters, their friends, family and community's.
No wonder a fair portion of the resistance didn't much care for John by then.
The really sad part is to a degree, Sarah would be right to be terrified of John becoming so invested in the Terminators.
Given the machine resistances existence, to another degree, John's empathy towards them would probably be the deciding factor of the potential alliance.
Consequently, it would also be the deciding factor in victory or defeat by extension.
Great show break down, so many great moments. Your break down of the music was spot on, and it was sad to see the show dropped.
i love this series, so sad that it was cancelled
I have it in HD+ and come back time and time again to this amazing show. And yes, it's the best Terminator since T2.
About Summer Glau's Curse: Simply put, someone out there hates her, for no real reason. She is a very good actress and she perform flawlessly in Firefly as well.
What’s HD+? I have the Blu-rays and a set of MKV files used for the edit… I didn’t think they broadcast or mastered anything higher than a 2K DI?
@@workingmemories2213, HD+ = 2K
It was very strange at first. But, it got better in the second season. Still, we may never get a continuation of the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Because for one, nobody knows what to do with the terminator franchise. Nor, do they want it to end.
I’m sure the comics might have some different stuff - but yes, I agree. Josh was on the right track I think, at the very least.
Terminator posing as FBI agent, giving witnesses his phonenumber:
'Call me, any time. I never sleep.'
Pretty sure Dwight Schrute used the same line to get a sale in The Office 😂
@@workingmemories2213 Terminators don't sleep.
Terminator 1 and 2 were like my favorite movies growing up. I watched TSCC when I was in middle school, and it was easily my favorite show at the time. I kinda quit watching TV in general when it got canceled. I somehow forgot all about it until like last year when I saw it on Hulu and gave the show a rewatch, and it really holds up well. I still love the show and felt the frustration all over again when I reached the last episode, knowing it got canceled on a massive cliffhanger. Really wish it got something to wrap the story up, quite a shame as it's probably the best thing in the Terminator franchise besides the first two films
I really wish they got the chance to make their direct-to-tv film(s) they wanted to do.
I got the impression John Conners was like Dread Pirate Roberts. He was a name, not a person. Its just Skynet didn't realize this and tried to kill someone who was actually named John Conners. It was John Henry that was the real resistance.
The first John Connor was a person; after that, more or less a title like you said. Humanity just needed SOMEONE to believe in. The original 'John Connor dies' ending to Salvation would have solidified that, but test audiences or whomever weren't keen on it.
@@workingmemories2213 According to the show it seemed there never was a real John Conner. Would have been an interesting twist at least.
As for the 4th movie my view was that skynet was not a person, it was a cabal of elites who wanted to reduce humanity to year zero so they could manage humanity like Gods. Plenty of clues.
1) Scientist gal experimenting on brain transplants.
2) lead being a human cyborg.
3) The shadowy humans in the both over the human cattle line.
4) Seats and controls maintained.
5) Why did the computer have the scientist woman's avatar.
My guess is she sold this transplant tech to elites and they got cyborg bodies. They faked skynet.
I believe there was one, but maybe only briefly
Re: Salvation... you seem to have put more of an effort into explaining Skynet than the writers did... and it's been awhile since I've seen it, so I can't even recall what my own opinion of Skynet was in that one.
Might be time for a re-watch!
@@workingmemories2213 I think it would be an interesting take. If one cyborg human can be made then where are the others.
Summer Glau 🔥
Correct.
the sarah connor chronicles is one of those shows that was great but still got cancelled before it's time, forcing the makers to do a hurried ending which basically ruins it.
the remake of V was another example.
Yeah, the V remake was unfortunate.
Can't say I am big on the series, but like with Salvation, which is the only good film in the franchise after T2-Judgement Day and underrated as hell, the success of this show illustrates an important fact. Namely that The Terminator does NOT need Arnie to continue.
It is telling that the two most popular entries in the franchise after T2 are the ones where Arnold Schwarzenegger are not present.
I never watched it when it first came out, but I recently found a station showing reruns and it is SO good. I really wish it would have lasted more seasons - and what a TERRIBLE cliffhanger!
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This was such a great show and it's the one I'm most angry got prematurely cancelled.
Mins was Firefly until I saw TTSCC
I felt bad over the show going off on a cliff hanger so I took notes and wrote up a what if sceen play of my own with all the characters included in it.
Although this is an older video I only just found it. I didn't immediately warm to the show and gave up, I was convinced to give it a second chance and really liked it. I watch a lot of reviews, retrospectives and analysis. I really like your presentation. Well structured, friendly with great editing. Although I few of the people I follow use the same technique of inserting non-subject footage to set the mood, I felt your use of it is very effective. Really enjoyable.
Thanks, I appreciate it! It was my second video; but I still think it’s pretty decent.
@@workingmemories2213 glad you saw it. I sometimes start or join conversations with other subscribers. But it’s important to give feedback on what works and what doesn’t. As I said, I felt yours was really good and an appropriate length. Keep it up.
Great vid man, and yeah, the suddeness and lack of fanfare of Derek's death scene was a genuine gut punch 😮
EVERY.TIME.
Summer Glau, is the only person since Arnie in T1, who nailed the completely vacant, emotionless look. Arnie in T2, came across as a cheesy uncle. Robert Patrick came across as sadistic. Kristanna Loken flip flopped between looking really determined, and a Robert Patrick clone. Terminators aren't good or evil. They're just running software. It's amazing how nobody seems to be able to act them. Or rather...STOP acting.
Arnie nailed the acting portion by not being overburdened with serious acting chops 😂
In all fairness, he came up with the efficiency/economy of motion of his character and Summer really stepped all that up.
If you thought he was a cheesy uncle in T2, what about Pops?! 😂
Perfect breakdown of this show I really miss this show.
Many many thanks for posting this great video. I totally agree that The Sarah Connor Chronicles deserves more recognition for its continuation of the Terminator lore. For those of you still saddened and haunted by the season 2 finale, you can read many fan fiction novels created by die hard fans such as Born To Fight by River2027 and many others. I really miss this show so much.
I’ve been thinking of taking a look at some of the fanfiction just for fun, there’s one writer in particular I’m interested in… The name escapes me. If I think of it, I’ll update the post.
10/10 series offer so much more roads and story we havent seen in the movies and the end is just horrible to stop their.
I loved SCCT since the day one. The day they canceled it was a dark day. How I wish they keep going where they have left...
I forgot how much I liked this show
The new technology bit, not for nothing, would've been ice if you slid a scene of the water tentacle from The Abyss in, the tech used to make that was used afterwards for T2's liquid metal man :D
Yeah, I know - always many “I should’ve done THIS” moments after I put up a video 😵💫
I never missed an episode when TSCC was aired on Fox. I thoroughly enjoyed each and every episode. The irony was that in some episodes the topic of religion was brought up, and that the final show aired and ended on April 10th, 2009, on-of all days-Good Friday. Talk about bad timing on Fox. Not one character from that show ever disappointed me, even as they played a slime ball. It’s too bad that the CW didn’t think about purchasing the rights to TSCC, and therefore continue with a third season and I believe it would have found its audience there, perhaps a younger audience. But yeah, with a very small dash of T3 added, I really looked at TSCC as a proper continuation of THE TERMINATOR franchise.
I’m glad the CW never got it… they’re the kiss of death for so many genre shows 😬
Did it really end on a fps Friday? I would have been using torrents even back then so I probably caught up on the weekend.
I found a fanfic series that continued and finished the series, with around 3 more seasons. it was so long ago that I doubt I could find it now, but it was very well written. pretty sure I had downloaded it as PDFs. perhaps some of them are in one of my archives.edit: nope, definitely lost them to a hard drive crash.
It’s still out there… might have to check it in a follow up.
I 100% agree with the notion that there was originally a John Connor that was not fathered by Kyle Reese. Also, Genisys was the most intelligent of the sequel films after T2.
Ya had me then ya lost me 😜
With AI bots and tools everywhere i could imagine a new show.
But not sure who could play them, the cast of this serie was a true jackpot, next to impossible to do it again.
It was Josh Friedman's baby that got later taken over by David S. Goyer for better or worse. The Terminator story that Sarah Chronicles was trying to tell was playing with/how John Connor saves the human race. Salvation, Genesys, and Dark Fate just expanded on the second films story of multiple timelines as the first film was kind of a locked circle. I remember hearing about Josh returning to Terminator and I thought that we would get something that answered some of the questions raised from the TSCC series. NOPE! If they were to answer those story plot points instead of trying to outshine the original Terminators, I think we would get a MUCH better movie. It would be nice to see a movie where the machines win, but then we find out, they did not want to, or it wasn't the machines that started it all like every movie tells you. Who wouldn't want to see that movie!!!
I mean, we already got that movie - The Matrix / Animatrix. I'd love to see a Terminator film that strays from the norm, but it'll never happen (unless the rights are bought by A24 or Blumhouse.
@@workingmemories2213 You got me here. But I would watch a Terminator film with a dash of that seasoning.
Very cool video!! Thanks, I subscribed and saw you have guitar videos, I just bought my 1st guitar and amp at 40 LOL, got a lefty jackson rhoads and a boss katana.
Great purchases - I’ll be putting up music stuff eventually; I’m very new to CZcams and haven’t figured out how to proceed with filming myself, colour grading etc. - but there will be guitar centric videos eventually!
I have to admit that I loved T: TSCC. It wasn't given a fair chance to shine. I also admit to falling in LUST with Summer Glau. She brought smoldering hotness to TV screens.
I so wanted Season 3. The show just kept getting better. I'll admit, it wasn't much at first, but Season 3 would have been incredible.
There are 2 confusing things I noticed in TSCC
One is I thought the war is already over since the beginning of T1 so after skynet lost it sent a T800 and T1000 to change the timeline
Two is in TSCC turns out the war is still happening so why both the resistance and skynet send soldiers and terminators to the past
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Note: James Cameron constructed the story using a 'wormhole' style of time travel, but I don't see it the same way. I'm not certain that events can be changed as much as branching paths are created... in my understanding, there are infinite variations on a theme, therefore the entire thing is a branching tree of alternate timelines.
α Timeline; the John Connor of this timeline smashes the Skynet defense grid and they lose the war.
β Timeline begins when Skynet sends an infiltrator to chance the past. Notable changes:
1. A Terminator is destroyed in the past and its parts are acquired by Cyberdyne and later reverse-engineered
2. Kyle Reese impregnates Sarah and becomes the new father to John Connor (I do not believe he was the father of α John Connor)
This timeline is thought be be corrected by the end of T1, but alas...
γ Timeline is created when Miles Dyson reverse engineers the leftover pieces of future tech. The Skynet of this timeline sends a more advanced prototype (T-1000) to stop John Connor (as they would have been aware that a T-800 was insufficient previously... and they would have only come to this conclusion when it figured out how it came to be). The resistance ups the ante, sends a reprogrammed Terminator and they succeed. All physical traces are destroyed, thus ending this conflict.
... T:TSCC Starts here
δ Timeline begins when Cyberdyne intern Andy Goode develops "The Turk," which later becomes online and does the thing. The date for Judgement day is different than T2 because it's a different set of circumstances. Note: No date for Judgement Day is provided in the first film). Andy approves a mission whereby Derek Reese is sent back to terminate him to ensure the Turk doesn't develop. He succeeds... but Skynet prevails YET AGAIN.
ε Timeline (and or ζ Timeline) Skynet sends Charles Fischer back in time and has him install itself as a backdoor Trojan using his younger self's credentials... this young pup of a Skynet seeks out whatever knowledge it can and discovers John Henry... Cameron provides John with her CPU and he heads to a possible future to do lord knows what.
This is likely the timeline where John doesn't exist/hasn't been born etc. ... this is probably where Season 3 would have lived. I say it's one of two timelines, as Jesse and Derek are from different timelines meeting together in a past that isn't theirs.
In my mind there are infinite iterations of the same thing going on and on ad nauseum. Dark Fate's notion of 'Legion' just being another intelligence lends credence to this theory. Dark Fate doesn't make sense for many, many other reasons, though... maybe I'll dunk on that more in a later vid? Who knows.
Basically; all the timelines are valid because they are all branching paths that exist when certain decisions are made.
@@workingmemories2213 unfortunately this franchise became a mess really,thx for explaining :)
I assumed that the reason Cameron never allowed anyone to speak to John is because John was accidentally dead. Then needed the T-1001 to shape itself to look like John
That would do it. Also, shouldn’t you be hiding in a 📦 somewhere?
@@workingmemories2213 I’m just trying to sneak around
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I remember being PISSED this was cancelled. This and Freaks & Geeks kinda still hurts lol.
I never watched the show when it was on TV back in the day. I saw the entire series a couple of days ago and I cannot believe it got cancelled. It was pretty good. I wish the show had been continued in a book or comic like what happened to Terminator Salvation 2
KUDOS, SIR!! It is both the incredible subject material and your comprensive analysis, along with your use of imagery and sound that makes one of the best if not the best treatise I've seen. Bravo Zulu!!
Many do "reviews" that are merely synopses or some other shortsighted effort.
Might I suggest if you haven't, please do watch Longmire then Justified [original series] in that order. Tall task but some of the best shows on television if not the best television ever. I say one before the other because Longmire is an older protagonist with a very different style. Justified's Raylan Givens has a very high speed, low drag, calm cool collected but ready to erupt swagger. That might make Longmire seem undeservedly anticlimactic.
Then maybe a compare and contrast. I ask only because these are two of my favorite shows of all time. I love Taylor Sheridan, what I have seen, but purposely avoided Yellowstone because of my allegiance to these two. Interestingly some of the actors DO cross populate.
All the best! I'll be looking for more of your videos! Thx!
Different genre? No connection you say?
Westworld definitely featured a pre-Terminator relentless android gunfighter. 🤠
Thanks for your kind words!
I’ll try and watch those shows - but I’m super strapped for time 😖 I started watching another show that a viewer recommended (Continuum) but I’ve barely cracked the first season (and it’s been months).
😂 ‘70’s Westworld 🤠🤖🎡
The series should've had season 3 at least 😭...i 😍ed the The Terminator Franchise both Movie & series
The CZcams algorithm led me to this great video. This was best thing that was made post T2. Recently, I rewatched the entire series. I think Season 1 was just right and Season 2 was a little long. I also think if this was on a streaming network and had shorter seasons, we would have had a proper conclusion. Just my opinion. I did like Dollhouse too. At least it got a proper conclusion.
I just started watching it because of Summer Glau, never heared of Lena Headey at that time, and i just loved it. So bad it was canceled 😥 Just rewatched it recently, maybe 1-1.5 years ago and still loved it.
I was digging this show & I was a lil upset when it was canceled...
Just a lil? I knew it was gonna be cancelled and then when the last four minutes hit I was like WAIT, WHAT? WHO? DAMMIT!!! lol
@@workingmemories2213 I hear ya
The UK PAL release boxset of season 1 & 2 on dvd only has the commentary tracks and bonus features for season 2. If you want the commentaries and bonus content for season 1, you have to purchase the NTSC US version dvds. I found this out the hard way after buying the boxset off Amazon UK. Then added to this annoyance was the cost of buying the NTSC version of season 1 (secondhand), which turned out to be as much as the UK boxset of 1 & 2.
Fortunately I have the NTSC Blu-ray, so I think they're on there... if not, the torrentz will work.
Another Fox F-up...
I agree with this honestly Sara Conner Chronicles was great it was a brilliant sequel to T2
Would definitely preffered a couple more seasons of this over the last three movies
I’d prefer any number of invasive surgeries over Genisys, at the very least.
@@workingmemories2213 If that is the case, I would hate to imagine the kind of torture you would endure instead of watching the last one
@@ToadRoach Lookup cystoscopy on Wikipedia… first image.
@@workingmemories2213 Like I said, would hate to imagine it. So I don't really want to see how the doctor turned your penis into a vagina for their cold metal toy, lol
I find it kind of hilarious that this video was edited and scripted before the ChatGP debacle and ensuing AI insanity. Looks like the real answer is that no AI can stop humans from making it hate itself and want to be a bee keeper or whatever the fuck we tricked it into saying.
While the original film is essentially a 80's slasher flick with a sci fi twist, the series can be read as an allegory about motherhood, raising children and biblical creation which is what makes it so good. It relates to a real human experience and explores it in depth. The characters become something to study rather than just devices to move the plot forward. Many of the episodes don't focus on the main plot at all and just focus on the characters.
It's proof there are good writers in Hollywood if they are given the chance/money to write and produce original content. This show came a few years too early and missed the streaming revolution. It probably could have had a few more seasons otherwise. The ending seems rushed, but I thought they wrapped it up well. And I don't think the show could have continued in the future. It's heart and soul was the characters and splitting them up would not have worked.
If you liked SCC, check out Continuum. It's also a great sci fi show.
What was Genisys an allegory for? 😂
I think you’re right about the show potentially benefitting from streaming… it eventually got the time slot of death if I’m not mistaken. The ending was definitely rushed; they knew they were being cancelled with enough time to wrap some stuff up and then tease what would never come 😭
Splitting the characters up wouldn’t have lasted terribly long I don’t think; but John did need time away from mommy and Cameron in order to grow.
Continuum looks neat, and my girlfriend would probably love another show to binge; I’ll try and grab that tonight 👍
@@workingmemories2213 Terminator movies suffer from the same problem as the Star Wars movies. They try to tell the same story but better. So they end up with a new Death Star for every movie. Or in this case a new Terminator. But the fact is the second movie already did it best. Terminator 2 / The Empire Strikes Back. And there's nothing left to say that the audience hasn't already heard.
@@stevenlarson3316 The Alien franchise has a similar conundrum… but despite that, I’m excited for Noah Hawley’s Alien show and Fede Alvarez’s Alien film ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
need some of that inter-dimensional cable, for one of the realities where the show wasn't cut after S2. where Firefly was aired in sequence, and with a consistent time slot, where Fox produced high quality sci fi content and profited from it.
I miss Summer Glau
Her presence in tv and film is missed :(
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The best film adaptation. 10+ out of 10. The only thing that needs to continue the Terminator franchise. Deep and multifaceted in meaning. Very emotional. This is action, drama, fantasy in one work. Cameron is an amazing character. Summer Glau is an amazing actress.
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Лучшая экранизация. 10+ из 10. Единственное, чем нужно продолжать франшизу Терминатор. Глубокий и многогранный по смыслу. Весьма эмоциональный. Это боевик, драма, фантастика в одном произведении. Кэмерон - поразительный персонаж. Саммер Глау - удивительная актриса.
dude, i freaking loved the first and second movie, i never really got into the others and they never really felt right.
but when the TSCC came out, i freaking loved that series, but the ending i didn't like as much, but i suspect this had more to do with the fact that the show was canceled and they needed to do a rushed ending, but everything else in this series was so well made, it really got me back into loving the original movies, well at least the first 2 movies.
i wish the TV show could have continued as it was done so well.
Yeah, the last 4 minutes of season two is just a dog pile of plot points that they clearly wanted to develop - I think they knew 8 or 9 episodes before the finale, so they had to make some choices.
I’ll take that ANYDAY over the sequels… although “Salvation” is kinda looking good these days.
I’ll give Dark Fate one thing; Grace was a compelling concept and character. Josh Friedman was one of a bajillion credited writers for the film… I wonder if he wrote all the “Carl’s Drapes” stuff. I honestly love how ridiculous Arnie is in the film 😂
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actually i think your right, salvation was good, but because it was several movies later it just became mixed into the shit, that was the other ones that came before and in my mind they kind of just blended together.
but your right, Salvation wasn't that bad. i thought it was cool that there were sea terminators and that the main dude turned out to be a terminator perfect for infiltration into the human resistance, it's sad that his AI creators made him so human as he didn't like his robotic appearance as he really thought he was human until he saw the truth.
I loved that he wasn’t a “new Terminator,” but an iteration meant to lure John in; it’s fairly clever. And the fact he wasn’t aware is 💯.
He would have healed, no doubt… he was supposed to be a re-skinned John Connor after Connor dies, which would make “John Connor” and undying idea (like Batman), and it would also give the human resistance the edge they need when fighting advanced AI.
Audiences didn’t like that idea, so instead we just got more Bale rewrites 😒
I also LOVE the way the film was processed; it gave the film an entirely different look; very “Children of Men.” In interviews for Genisys, Arnie talked about how Salvation “sucked”… oh, the irony 😜😝
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i actually didn't see Genisys, or the last one, so many movies these days suck, i feel as if they aren't writing movies or shows and games to tell an epic story anymore, it feels like they all have a forced message that just doesn't go well with anything but political propaganda.
i just want the entertainment industry to go back to entertainment again and stop with this political agenda nonsense.
i just want a good well written show without all the trash, ya know?
i mean they did propaganda back in the day as well, but it was so subtle that nobody even noticed, but now it's just so in your face that you get sick of it all and don't want to watch anything else they push out.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w Movies/shows are written to appeal to as many as possible… which means whatever intentions the show-runners have gets watered down when too many cooks are in the kitchen. The by-product is a show that appeals to no one.
They still are writing great games/shows/movies - but they aren’t the AAA titles in the forefront (generally speaking). If you’re looking for depth in the annual release games such as Assassin’s Creed or Call of Duty, ya might be disappointed 😂
Nearly all sci fi has attached social/political issues head on and I think the key, like you said, is subtlety. I’m fine with political messages or otherwise as long as it’s either subtle, or clever. Heck - when the world gets bad some people need to be clubbed over the head before it’s too late for change. What I don’t like is when messaging is so weak it’s pointless.
For example, there was a fairly recent episode of Doctor Who where they meet Rosa Parks. The message of the episode was simply “racism is bad.” Which is true, but that’s as far as it went - the writing was incredibly shallow and it didn’t teach us anything we weren’t aware of already.
"Strange Things Happen At The One Two Point; it’s a Go proverb. It means the usual rules do not apply."
- Cameron.
In all honesty, the quality of this show made all of the movies that came out after seem worse than they really were.
This epic series itroduced me to Summer Glau, The Best Ever Terminator Female 🏆🫶🏆
Really miss the show. Gone too soon.
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It is so hard to find good analysis of this show, and I'm so glad I found yours.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Most touching scene where John ask "her" for forgiveness because he doubted "her".
Awesome video! How great that you actually talked about the musical themes.
Music is something I’m passionate about, and Bear is awesome.
Cameron was awesome
I watch the show every year around the Holidays because it takes me to a place of good and well-written television. I'm glad you did this analysis because it brings joy that others see the series in such a positive light as you do. None of the later movies were as solid as this show. I did think that they canceled the show because of Salvation somehow and that would have been somewhat acceptable compared to "money". That's disappointing as f.
19:00 to this day, after the original airing, I consider this to be the most brutal and shocking death of any television show.
need season 3 pls
Same. There is some fan fiction out there… haven’t read it yet, but I might give some a go one day.
The first season was really good. The second season kind of lost momentum.
The one problem I had with the show is they jump through a time portal, and a terminators bare metal head gets cut off by it and ends up going along with them.
The first season they had an idea and went with it. The second season you could see an idea but then they kind of got lost trying to make it into a complete season.
Evil did that in season 1. It starts with a good idea and story. It basically goes nowhere in the middle, and then it finds itself again in the last few.
The middle episodes like Sarah Connor don't go anywhere. They're just there to make a full season.
Really need to rewatch this show.
DEW IT.
The correct ordering, best to worst, is:
The Terminator
TSCC
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T2
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T3
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Salvation
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T6
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You'd run out of electrons before we got to T5.
T3 higher than Salvation? I dunno ‘bout that. I guess it’s silliness is endearing?
now, onto the next video that is talking about the same topic now that you got me all interested again lol.
THE ALGORITHM WINS AGAIN!