Star Wars has to have some of the most elaborate lore I've ever seen in a fictional series. Let's explore it in today's iceberg! #iceberg #starwars #lore
41:11 Empire Strikes Back, with Luke on the way to Dagobah sitting in his X-Wing cockpit, we see the text of what Artoo is "saying" come up on the screen so Luke can read it. Sentients can't speak binary; on Dagobah Luke mostly intuits what Artoo is saying, but he doesn't _know_ for sure. (Ex: "If you're saying coming here was a bad idea, I'm beginning to agree with you.") However, at the -36:20- mark after the leaving Hoth, Artoo questions the course Luke laid in, and the text comes up on a screen in his cockpit. It isn't an alphabet *we* can read, not in Aurebesh (which was the Imperial alphabet before it became the alphabet for the entire galaxy), but Luke is clearly reading it as his eyes drop to the screen on his control panel to read what is being said. Somehow, EVERYONE missed this, and because Luke talked back to the droid without being able to really know what he is saying, this had led to the misunderstanding that everyone just understands astromechs; we see Mando speaking to R5 as if he knows what the droid is saying, and ofc there is Hera and Chopper (though I'd argue Chopper actually _speaks_ instead of just beeping and whistling; there are times when it's very clear what his meaning is). The truth of the matter is that when he isn't sitting in his cockpit with Artoo plugged in to his socket, Luke is just guessing at Artoo's meaning the same way we do with when "talking" with our dogs and cats. So it's critical that pilots have to be able to read to know what their droids are saying about shield strength and other ships' systems. Look at the control panel of the X-Wing; there are no pictogram displays there. Even when Luke is nearing Dagobah, he's reading info about lifesign readings; in the first film when he's got his targeting computer up, we see text on that screen as well. In Return of the Jedi is when we get *actual Aurebesh letters* and THIS is where that whole alphabet stems from, on a screen on Vader's SSD when the Rebels are trying to sneak past the blockade. And then there is Coruscant in the prequels, and all those those lit signs with LETTERING on them to advertise establishments. We never see anyone reading for fun, catching up on the news?? At what point has anyone in these films had the time for that. The prequels have Padme and Co. running for their lives, fleeing Naboo to get to Coruscant and start prepping for a Senate appearance, and in the meantime Qui-Gon is fighting off a Sith and cheating at dice to get Anakin into a race, and then the race happens, and then it's off to Coruscant, and then we jump forward to when they are there...George isn't showing us the characters' downtime. I guess maybe if he'd shown a pregnant Padme reading novels instead of dreamily brushing her hair--sure, there was a spot there to do it. But come on...the galaxy is illiterate? Just because there are non-human races in the galaxy doesn't mean that they don't have written languages/alphabets/syllabaries of their own. I just don't buy this one.
This is actually not true in legends I'm pretty sure the red crystals are synthetic. In canon the normal crystals are bled by the dark side users but they can be cleansed like ahsoka does
Interesting that the Rakata were higher than the Rule of Two. Since these Icebergs are usually "well-known" to "obscure", I'd thought the Rakata would be at best around the middle since I'd wager a sizeable number of Star Wars fans don't know about 'em in the first place, unlike the Rule of Two.
Could be, it’s always going to be a little subjective I think. I have a general order, but there’s so much lore it’s hard to know what’s obscure and what isn’t sometimes. Also Star Wars fans have been around a longer than I’ve been alive, so I’m not not going to have the same order someone that’s been watching for 35 years would.
Yea, the structure of this iceburg is really weird. A mixture of "lore" "theories" and "canon vs. legends (especially without differentiating most times)" makes this video just feel like it doesn't know what it wants to be. It has some cool information in it, but why in the world would the Padme's death theory be in the lowest category?
I am old enough to remember the "Ewoks" and "Droids" shows (I'm 45, and old enough to remember RotJ in the cinema). As a linked fact, my brother a couple of days ago brought home and gifted me two additions to my action figure collection - one is the Black Series (6 inch humans) Luke and Grogu (Book of Boba Fett), and the other is the Vintage Series (3.75 inch, for humans) double pack of Wicket and Kneesaa (that being a light grey female Ewok of the show).
r2d2 did far more for anakin like literally saving him and mace windu's live when they were stuck in wreckage of a venator. R2 comes in anakins ship, finds them, leaves and go brings clones and another general to save them and saved their lives. Mace finally says R2 is special. Incredible little story in TCW. i love this video idea
The most common way to bleed a Kyber crystal is that the force user takes for example a blue Kyber crystal and puts all of his rage, hate and anger into the crystal (almost like they make the crystal angry) and it turns red, this can also be done the other way around, a Jedi can take a red crystal and "purify" it by putting their good intentions, peace and focus into the crystal making it white. That is how Ashoka got her white lightsabers, by defeating a inqisitor and taking his crystals and purifying them.
After watching your Harry Potter video, I decided to give this one a shot. It is clear that your script writing has vastly improved over the last month. While listening to the Harry Potter video I felt like you were repetitive, and sometimes bordering on redundant with the phrases you were using in this video. I’m only five minutes in and I’m captivated by your word choice and storytelling. you have a bright future on this platform.
Droids need a memory wipe because over time they have a very high chance to become erratic and unstable. Just like if you don't system restore your computer once in a while after high use downloading, installing, surfing, watching movies, playing games etc. R2 is the rare exception. Oh and speaking of Astromech Droids. R2 and others can do a lot because they are the top of the line in Droids. Astromech Droids to a Translator Droid is equivalent in comparison to a Smart Phone (basically a handheld computer) to a Translator Device. And they don't get wiped because of "sentience." They can't get sentience, it might seem like it, but they don't. They're only expressing their combined knowledge. It's all data at the end of the day and most the time that data conflicts. Which causes the instability leading to a data wipe. I hope this helps in understanding this part of the berg. Been a fan for nearly 30 years, got a huge collection, was part of Star Wars Book Club in the 90's. Had access to rare books and info. So I'm not giving my personal belief on the subject as an fyi.
2:24 yes the color of the light saber can change with the user varying slightly or made to bleed from the darkside. That red can turn purple as part of a turn back to the light or they can be purified to white.
@@VaultLoreyou can see examples of this with Darth/Jedi Knight Revan, and Ahsoka Tano. Revan’s blade turned purple as he came back to the light; Ashoka Tano purified an unknown Inquisitor’s Kyber crystals, which is now her signature white blades
I remember watching the ewoks and droids cartoon on Saturday mornings as a kid. That, and the 2 ewok tv movies, were the thin gruel that kids had to subsist on if we wanted to watch anything star wars related.
Kyber crystals are usually chosen by a Padawan during their training and come naturally from planets with deep connections to the force. The reason sith have red lightsabers is because (at least in new canon during the Imperial era) the kyber crystals were taken for use in the Death Star laser, and those lightsabers have a synthetic kyber crystal in them which is also imbued with dark force energy. Course that’s just one explanation…main one is cuz having all the bad guys carry red lightsabers is a visually distinct way to show who is who in battle.
33:10 My personal take on the force having limits is that it doesn’t, it’s the user. For example Tràkata is form a lightsaber combat in (legends) that is focused on turning off and on a lightsaber to get an advantage. This form of lightsaber combat was frowned upon the Jedi and the Sith. The sith deemed it as weak and the jedi deemed it as unsportsmanlike. The same could be said with the force. The jedi would not want to be unsportsmanlike and the sith would not want to be considered weak for using the easy route. They really could just rip the other person apart if they wanted to and weren’t subjected by moral core. But thats just my personal theory on your question. (Edit) Another theory i have is that the force could be preventing you getting ripped apart in a battle. In Revenge Of The Sith on Anakin and Obi-wan duel on Mustafar you can see Anakin try to force push Obi-wan but Obi-wan retaliates with his own force push. They have a stand off trying to both force push eachother until they both go flying back. Maybe whats stopping a force user from ripping the other person apart is the other person using the force to retaliate if that makes sense.
George Lucas has described Star Wars as an onion, having many deeper and deeper layers. He's talked about some in interviews or commentaries, and only alluded to others. Since this metaphor fits so well with the iceberg format, I wish someone could make a chart not about lore (which is also cool) but about the thematic/psychological significance of the movies. One random example is his use of mirror images. E.g. how the end shots of Empire and Clones are flipped versions of each other with the two skywalkers and two droids, or Obi-Wan holding Qui-Gon's dead body next to a pit being a reverse of Luke doing the same with Anakin, followed by flipped images of Qui-Gon versus Anakin's burning bodies.
Great essay! About as deep as I think I ever want to go, but a very entertaining dive. Your speculations around droid sentience really grabbed my attention. But droids memories aren’t wiped to forestall or erase sentience (if you use the dictionary definition of sentience - which is simply a capacity to sense an environment using vision, hearing, touch, etc. - a very basic level of cognition) Rather, it seems to be for preventing the formation of a strong independent identity - which of course does depend very much on memory - because a sense of self that might engender concerns outside a droid’s specific function compromises their usefulness. (It also has a security function, but that’s not as germane here). But those memory wipes aren’t intended to interfere with basic sentience since that would often make droids useless. A “janitor droid” unable to sense moisture, attenuate the pressure it uses to clean a mirror, or determine whether a given object is garbage or not, wouldn’t be a very effective janitor. Your description about droids being slaves, though? Dead on. Subbed. p.s. Not to be an asshole, but I think you said “Their (the Bendu) clash with the Inquisitor Thrawn (16:02) ….but Thrawn wasn’t an inquisitor, he was an officer in the imperial navy (a grand admiral). If I misunderstood you, please ignore this. p.p.s. Okay, this IS me being a pedantic asshole, but evidence can’t be circumspect. (21:33) To be circumspect is to be cautious, careful, prudent, etc. which is something a living, thinking entity can pull off, but evidence is generally inanimate (unless specifically described to be otherwise, which is quite unusual and not well served by the term). Saying evidence is circumspect is like saying a lightbulb is self-righteous or a brick is gripped by foreboding. Just saying…
The Rule of Two was born when Bane found Revan's holocron. Revan realized the Darkside is weak when shared amongst an army and came up with The Rule of Two. But Revan killed Malek, his former apprentice, and turned away from the Darksid, leaving the galaxy to find a hidden Sith Lord (did not end well for Revan). The Sith repeated the mistakes of their past until Bane learned The Rule of Two from Revan and learned the Spirit Bomb ritual that he used to trick the Sith Army into destroying itself. Revan went through way too much to not even get a mention.
I lay the reasoning for how expansive Star Wars is at the foot of novels, comics, and table-top roleplaying games. I have recently heard in another video that the roleplaying games was one of the earliest starts of it, which really, when I look sideways at Faerûn and beyond into the D&D multiverse... and yeah, roleplaying games need a lot of establishing info. But a lot of the history lore is down to novels, comics, and a bit later, video games. Plus, all those have had almost 50 years, longer if one considers George Lucus's work on the scripts before the movies started being made (there are quite a few names and concepts that got reused later on, like Bogan and Ashla, Starkiller, the Whills, and more).
One thing about Chewbacca I am fond of is that the early concept art for him eventually got recycled and turned into Garazeb Orrelios, and by extension all Lasats, which includes Cal Kestis' master, Jaro Tapal, which just makes me think that as soon as a new race is introduced in canon, someone will use it in other parts of the franchise.
Life Drain - I don't mind the theory, but I also have to say it is a good tool in fanfic. A plot where Vader uncovers this and goes off on Palps? Or secretly works against the Empire? I have read that, and by writers who had used it as a basis for a good story.
All good points! Really interesting idea that the tabletop game era really helped build up the foundation of the lore. That’s a really cool idea that’s probably pretty accurate. That and the books+comics
Great video! So interesting. It's exciting to think of the places stories in the SW universe could go, when allowed to deviate from convention and experiment.
I always thought Palpatine drained Padmes life so he could fully control Vader and give him no aspect of life to live for. To truly kill the person who was Anakin
With manipulating the force, it requires attention to that specific thing youre doing. While battling, you have to fight, use the force to help you in that fight, and direct the force in either defense or offense. I believe if a person had a high mental capacity, they can do many things at the same time. Like dueling, while force pushing, while levitating at the same time. Probably has a lot to do with your "oneness" with the force as well. Also, sith cant project themselves as force ghosts because they use the force in a negative way. Essentially, the force is being petty with them.
i have watched from very early the rise of wendigoon and pigpen, the iceberg genre has gained a fierce new competitor in you. remember me at 100k my friend
52:03 A couple days ago I thought I'd found a mandela effect because I found out there's actually a couple live action Ewok movies. I'd NEVER heard anyone mention them anywhere. But further research concluded that people do remember them existing. You always hear about the terrible Christmas Special but never about the Ewok movies.
All force combatants have a type of shield in the force surrounding them which is why usually when they are caught off guard or exhausted it becomes easier to use force abilities on said opponent because in that moment their force barrier either faltered or dissipated. This usually don't last long though because force combatants also use the force to bolster their energy and strength when fighting just every living being has a limit. The reason why its confusing is because the force is a seemingly infinite entity with countless applications but i hope that kind of gives you an idea as to why force users cant just implode one another on sight lmao.
The sith blades are only red because they have the goal of concurring the force. The colors of the crystal are in connection with the force and the wielder. The red color is the embodiment of the conquering of the force with regard to the lightsaber part of it all
SPOILER FOR STAR WARS JEDI SURVIVOR: There is a boss you will encounter that appears as a good Jedi then changes his crystal from yellow to red in front of you (using the force) his own hatred changing the gem.
The Force, as I've learned, seems to be a metaphor for the constant internal amd external struggle within and outside each and every person on this Earth. Anyway, come join the Dark Side. We promise we won't betray you and make you hate everybody and everything.
Technically everyone is connected to the force, but not everyone was born to the bonded connection to the force, and Shmi Skywalker is the great example of someone who is not born to or cannot wield the power of the force, but has a powerful enough connection with it to bare a conceived child through it; and this is a very rare case of a possible star child of the force, because in most cases of producing a Jedi child is if a Jedi or rather a force user would have a secret relationship with a non-force user will most assuredly be the parents of a force sensitive who might become the next future force user, but we never got to see if there have been two force users who gets Married and have a child of their own. Are their any notable couple that were both force users and had a family together in the graphic novels, if yes then why were there no revelation in either the games or the movies (Excluding the two Kotor games)? 😊
I am sort of familiar with the Star Forge thing, and in the 3 times I have reached that Island in "Knights of The Old Republic" for the original Xbox, I could never find the way to get inside the building and I still don't know how to get in it now.
Man, I used to think Star Wars was so interesting and cool and sank deep into the lore for years and I just don’t care anymore. Why am I even writing this? Who am I?
Your still yourself man, everyone changes and develops and despite not caring anyone you still have that inert Star Wars knowledge and past connection to it and that will never change, your mind now seeks to explore other lore and other aspects of life but this doesn’t change Star Wars impact on you
Man I got to be honest, the whole bleeding a lightsaber crystal is so fucking stupid to me. The whole reason why the sith use red crystals is because in the EU (The true cannon, suck my ass Disney) natural red crystals was super rare, I mean only a few sith in the Star Wars galaxy history ever had one that we know off. So they had to use synthetic red crystals, the opposite of Jedi and there natural crystals, a Ying Yang scenario that also fit the two factions well..
3:02 because the Force is a *utility* to *all Sith,* while the Force is an *ally* in different ways to all Jedi, based on their relationship with it. Someone could be a guardian of the Force and have a blue lightsaber, or a consular interested in reflecting on the nature of the Force and get a green lightsaber, or a guard of the Jedi Order itself and get a yellow lightsaber, but a Sith will always *use* the Force abusively, refusing any such Jedi relationship with the Force.
@@VaultLore Great video, dude! The thing I love about Star Wars iceberg videos is that a franchise as sprawling as Star Wars isn't really just one iceberg - it's more like... well, an asteroid field. With a bunch of unrelated or tangentially related icebergs floating around and bumping into each other sometimes. Each individual property in the Star Wars universe has a "beneath the iceberg", and some are insane if you really dig into them. I kind of liked how you grabbed a little from a bunch of different sectors of the universe to talk about!
Haha I started digging thinking I could put a lot in one video before realizing the sprawling world that like 1000 different authors have contributed to. Glad you liked the video!
35:56 I know nothing about Star Wars really but if the other person had the same strength you can’t really do it to them. And it’d be too gorey for disney
Yeah I think it has more to do to with the gore. Against another force user, I agree it might not work, but a non force user shouldn’t really be able to stop it..
Clicking the video I cannot imagine how you can condense Legends into less than 50min, we‘ll see Edit: Alright minute 3 and you mentioned the crystal cave on Dantooine, good job, you shall be forgiven any further current canon nonsense, as you are probably „forced“ to do it ❤😂
Thanks for watching! It’s just a snapshot, but I tried my best! I’m sure there are some inaccuracies in there, but there’s so much Star Wars lore out there
@@VaultLore I‘m that type of guy to judge people, or in this case videos, too early. Left a comment back then on the first video I watched from you, was absolutely stunned. Keep up the amazing work, if I can give a tiny suggestion, it‘s no sin to re-record your voiceover when you pronounce a word wrong or get stuck on a certain word. Tiny tiny tiny thing I noticed, people who are not as autistic as I am probably don‘t even notice it, but I‘d like to suggest the improvement because in my opinion, that would be the last step to bring your videos, at least for me, to absolute perfection. Please never do less depth, less detail, less video length or similar. You are building an incredibly loyal community, compared to 10-20min essay channels, you will PERSIST, instead of living off some hype :)
I appreciate it! I try to correct and look up pronunciations when I can, I don’t get them all, but these videos are like a straight hour of voiceover, so it’s hard to catch the all. Thanks for watching though!
This is a great video but, because Disney have effectively killed Star Wars, they've caused me to lose any real interest I ever had. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was infinitely better than ANYTHING the house of mouse crapped out. Such a shame!
Yeah, idk most of the lore I pulled seemed to come more from the books (of which there are many), and come comics. Most people I read posts from aren’t huge fans of current day Star Wars.
@@kanyepepper9977 whatever Kanye it was clearly a joke calm your padawan nerves down. Your opinion is noted I'm sure some trekkies would argue but in the end they aren't the same kind of story and the people that like more science stuff will like Trek and people that like magic abilities and more action like star wars. If they are written well.
Which topic was your favorite??
41:11 Empire Strikes Back, with Luke on the way to Dagobah sitting in his X-Wing cockpit, we see the text of what Artoo is "saying" come up on the screen so Luke can read it. Sentients can't speak binary; on Dagobah Luke mostly intuits what Artoo is saying, but he doesn't _know_ for sure. (Ex: "If you're saying coming here was a bad idea, I'm beginning to agree with you.") However, at the -36:20- mark after the leaving Hoth, Artoo questions the course Luke laid in, and the text comes up on a screen in his cockpit. It isn't an alphabet *we* can read, not in Aurebesh (which was the Imperial alphabet before it became the alphabet for the entire galaxy), but Luke is clearly reading it as his eyes drop to the screen on his control panel to read what is being said.
Somehow, EVERYONE missed this, and because Luke talked back to the droid without being able to really know what he is saying, this had led to the misunderstanding that everyone just understands astromechs; we see Mando speaking to R5 as if he knows what the droid is saying, and ofc there is Hera and Chopper (though I'd argue Chopper actually _speaks_ instead of just beeping and whistling; there are times when it's very clear what his meaning is). The truth of the matter is that when he isn't sitting in his cockpit with Artoo plugged in to his socket, Luke is just guessing at Artoo's meaning the same way we do with when "talking" with our dogs and cats.
So it's critical that pilots have to be able to read to know what their droids are saying about shield strength and other ships' systems. Look at the control panel of the X-Wing; there are no pictogram displays there. Even when Luke is nearing Dagobah, he's reading info about lifesign readings; in the first film when he's got his targeting computer up, we see text on that screen as well.
In Return of the Jedi is when we get *actual Aurebesh letters* and THIS is where that whole alphabet stems from, on a screen on Vader's SSD when the Rebels are trying to sneak past the blockade.
And then there is Coruscant in the prequels, and all those those lit signs with LETTERING on them to advertise establishments.
We never see anyone reading for fun, catching up on the news?? At what point has anyone in these films had the time for that. The prequels have Padme and Co. running for their lives, fleeing Naboo to get to Coruscant and start prepping for a Senate appearance, and in the meantime Qui-Gon is fighting off a Sith and cheating at dice to get Anakin into a race, and then the race happens, and then it's off to Coruscant, and then we jump forward to when they are there...George isn't showing us the characters' downtime. I guess maybe if he'd shown a pregnant Padme reading novels instead of dreamily brushing her hair--sure, there was a spot there to do it. But come on...the galaxy is illiterate? Just because there are non-human races in the galaxy doesn't mean that they don't have written languages/alphabets/syllabaries of their own. I just don't buy this one.
In some Legends, Lightsaber crystals can bleed into the Color red by the user committing atrocities and deeply using the darkside, in a nutshell
Ah thanks for answering the question!
This is actually not true in legends I'm pretty sure the red crystals are synthetic. In canon the normal crystals are bled by the dark side users but they can be cleansed like ahsoka does
@@hamzakhairi4765 In ‘some legends the crystal is synthetic, but in others it’s bled. Read a book
@@ericmyers0don't be a dick
Interesting that the Rakata were higher than the Rule of Two.
Since these Icebergs are usually "well-known" to "obscure", I'd thought the Rakata would be at best around the middle since I'd wager a sizeable number of Star Wars fans don't know about 'em in the first place, unlike the Rule of Two.
Could be, it’s always going to be a little subjective I think. I have a general order, but there’s so much lore it’s hard to know what’s obscure and what isn’t sometimes.
Also Star Wars fans have been around a longer than I’ve been alive, so I’m not not going to have the same order someone that’s been watching for 35 years would.
Yea, the structure of this iceburg is really weird. A mixture of "lore" "theories" and "canon vs. legends (especially without differentiating most times)" makes this video just feel like it doesn't know what it wants to be. It has some cool information in it, but why in the world would the Padme's death theory be in the lowest category?
The illiteracy theory got me. Makes so much sense. Subbed.
They’re all so dumb 😂
Guess people forgot Datapads littered about the galaxy 🤷
Having encountered widely varying literacy levels even in my own hometown, I find it much easier to believe than I would have while still in school.
I am old enough to remember the "Ewoks" and "Droids" shows (I'm 45, and old enough to remember RotJ in the cinema). As a linked fact, my brother a couple of days ago brought home and gifted me two additions to my action figure collection - one is the Black Series (6 inch humans) Luke and Grogu (Book of Boba Fett), and the other is the Vintage Series (3.75 inch, for humans) double pack of Wicket and Kneesaa (that being a light grey female Ewok of the show).
r2d2 did far more for anakin like literally saving him and mace windu's live when they were stuck in wreckage of a venator. R2 comes in anakins ship, finds them, leaves and go brings clones and another general to save them and saved their lives. Mace finally says R2 is special. Incredible little story in TCW. i love this video idea
The most common way to bleed a Kyber crystal is that the force user takes for example a blue Kyber crystal and puts all of his rage, hate and anger into the crystal (almost like they make the crystal angry) and it turns red, this can also be done the other way around, a Jedi can take a red crystal and "purify" it by putting their good intentions, peace and focus into the crystal making it white. That is how Ashoka got her white lightsabers, by defeating a inqisitor and taking his crystals and purifying them.
After watching your Harry Potter video, I decided to give this one a shot. It is clear that your script writing has vastly improved over the last month. While listening to the Harry Potter video I felt like you were repetitive, and sometimes bordering on redundant with the phrases you were using in this video. I’m only five minutes in and I’m captivated by your word choice and storytelling. you have a bright future on this platform.
What a kind comment! Glad you’re liking the videos!
Repetitive AND redundant?!😂
Droids need a memory wipe because over time they have a very high chance to become erratic and unstable. Just like if you don't system restore your computer once in a while after high use downloading, installing, surfing, watching movies, playing games etc.
R2 is the rare exception. Oh and speaking of Astromech Droids. R2 and others can do a lot because they are the top of the line in Droids. Astromech Droids to a Translator Droid is equivalent in comparison to a Smart Phone (basically a handheld computer) to a Translator Device.
And they don't get wiped because of "sentience." They can't get sentience, it might seem like it, but they don't. They're only expressing their combined knowledge. It's all data at the end of the day and most the time that data conflicts. Which causes the instability leading to a data wipe.
I hope this helps in understanding this part of the berg. Been a fan for nearly 30 years, got a huge collection, was part of Star Wars Book Club in the 90's. Had access to rare books and info. So I'm not giving my personal belief on the subject as an fyi.
2:24 yes the color of the light saber can change with the user varying slightly or made to bleed from the darkside. That red can turn purple as part of a turn back to the light or they can be purified to white.
Ahh good to know!
@@VaultLoreyou can see examples of this with Darth/Jedi Knight Revan, and Ahsoka Tano. Revan’s blade turned purple as he came back to the light; Ashoka Tano purified an unknown Inquisitor’s Kyber crystals, which is now her signature white blades
Padme died from a broken heart, no over thinking required.
Literally like animals such as swans can so I don’t see how people can’t see this!
I remember watching the ewoks and droids cartoon on Saturday mornings as a kid. That, and the 2 ewok tv movies, were the thin gruel that kids had to subsist on if we wanted to watch anything star wars related.
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Kyber crystals are usually chosen by a Padawan during their training and come naturally from planets with deep connections to the force. The reason sith have red lightsabers is because (at least in new canon during the Imperial era) the kyber crystals were taken for use in the Death Star laser, and those lightsabers have a synthetic kyber crystal in them which is also imbued with dark force energy. Course that’s just one explanation…main one is cuz having all the bad guys carry red lightsabers is a visually distinct way to show who is who in battle.
Haha yep I’m in camp number 2. Way to tell the bad guys apart
33:10 My personal take on the force having limits is that it doesn’t, it’s the user. For example Tràkata is form a lightsaber combat in (legends) that is focused on turning off and on a lightsaber to get an advantage. This form of lightsaber combat was frowned upon the Jedi and the Sith. The sith deemed it as weak and the jedi deemed it as unsportsmanlike. The same could be said with the force. The jedi would not want to be unsportsmanlike and the sith would not want to be considered weak for using the easy route. They really could just rip the other person apart if they wanted to and weren’t subjected by moral core. But thats just my personal theory on your question. (Edit) Another theory i have is that the force could be preventing you getting ripped apart in a battle. In Revenge Of The Sith on Anakin and Obi-wan duel on Mustafar you can see Anakin try to force push Obi-wan but Obi-wan retaliates with his own force push. They have a stand off trying to both force push eachother until they both go flying back. Maybe whats stopping a force user from ripping the other person apart is the other person using the force to retaliate if that makes sense.
Loving your iceberg videos!!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!!
George Lucas has described Star Wars as an onion, having many deeper and deeper layers. He's talked about some in interviews or commentaries, and only alluded to others. Since this metaphor fits so well with the iceberg format, I wish someone could make a chart not about lore (which is also cool) but about the thematic/psychological significance of the movies. One random example is his use of mirror images. E.g. how the end shots of Empire and Clones are flipped versions of each other with the two skywalkers and two droids, or Obi-Wan holding Qui-Gon's dead body next to a pit being a reverse of Luke doing the same with Anakin, followed by flipped images of Qui-Gon versus Anakin's burning bodies.
You're thinking of ogre's bro
Can’t wait to watch the video! Definitely looking forward to more Star Wars content if you want to make more
Yay! This was a fun one to make, the lore is so deep it’s wild
Lightsaber color also used to represent if you were good with the sword (blue) or good with force (green)
Another great video, keep em rolling
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Great essay! About as deep as I think I ever want to go, but a very entertaining dive.
Your speculations around droid sentience really grabbed my attention. But droids memories aren’t wiped to forestall or erase sentience (if you use the dictionary definition of sentience - which is simply a capacity to sense an environment using vision, hearing, touch, etc. - a very basic level of cognition) Rather, it seems to be for preventing the formation of a strong independent identity - which of course does depend very much on memory - because a sense of self that might engender concerns outside a droid’s specific function compromises their usefulness. (It also has a security function, but that’s not as germane here). But those memory wipes aren’t intended to interfere with basic sentience since that would often make droids useless. A “janitor droid” unable to sense moisture, attenuate the pressure it uses to clean a mirror, or determine whether a given object is garbage or not, wouldn’t be a very effective janitor. Your description about droids being slaves, though? Dead on.
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p.s. Not to be an asshole, but I think you said “Their (the Bendu) clash with the Inquisitor Thrawn (16:02) ….but Thrawn wasn’t an inquisitor, he was an officer in the imperial navy (a grand admiral). If I misunderstood you, please ignore this.
p.p.s. Okay, this IS me being a pedantic asshole, but evidence can’t be circumspect. (21:33) To be circumspect is to be cautious, careful, prudent, etc. which is something a living, thinking entity can pull off, but evidence is generally inanimate (unless specifically described to be otherwise, which is quite unusual and not well served by the term). Saying evidence is circumspect is like saying a lightbulb is self-righteous or a brick is gripped by foreboding. Just saying…
The Rule of Two was born when Bane found Revan's holocron. Revan realized the Darkside is weak when shared amongst an army and came up with The Rule of Two. But Revan killed Malek, his former apprentice, and turned away from the Darksid, leaving the galaxy to find a hidden Sith Lord (did not end well for Revan). The Sith repeated the mistakes of their past until Bane learned The Rule of Two from Revan and learned the Spirit Bomb ritual that he used to trick the Sith Army into destroying itself. Revan went through way too much to not even get a mention.
I lay the reasoning for how expansive Star Wars is at the foot of novels, comics, and table-top roleplaying games. I have recently heard in another video that the roleplaying games was one of the earliest starts of it, which really, when I look sideways at Faerûn and beyond into the D&D multiverse... and yeah, roleplaying games need a lot of establishing info. But a lot of the history lore is down to novels, comics, and a bit later, video games. Plus, all those have had almost 50 years, longer if one considers George Lucus's work on the scripts before the movies started being made (there are quite a few names and concepts that got reused later on, like Bogan and Ashla, Starkiller, the Whills, and more).
One thing about Chewbacca I am fond of is that the early concept art for him eventually got recycled and turned into Garazeb Orrelios, and by extension all Lasats, which includes Cal Kestis' master, Jaro Tapal, which just makes me think that as soon as a new race is introduced in canon, someone will use it in other parts of the franchise.
The Force Insanity theory strikes me as a good one for Eldritch Force ideas. I need to throw it on Discord.
Life Drain - I don't mind the theory, but I also have to say it is a good tool in fanfic. A plot where Vader uncovers this and goes off on Palps? Or secretly works against the Empire? I have read that, and by writers who had used it as a basis for a good story.
All good points! Really interesting idea that the tabletop game era really helped build up the foundation of the lore. That’s a really cool idea that’s probably pretty accurate. That and the books+comics
I never saw those cartoons , but I saw " ewok adventures " lol it was like a double live action movie
Someone else just mentioned that!
So happy I found this. Gonna start watching now!
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Great video! So interesting. It's exciting to think of the places stories in the SW universe could go, when allowed to deviate from convention and experiment.
One can dream! Thanks for watching!
Great video thank you for making it !!
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
I always thought Palpatine drained Padmes life so he could fully control Vader and give him no aspect of life to live for. To truly kill the person who was Anakin
With manipulating the force, it requires attention to that specific thing youre doing. While battling, you have to fight, use the force to help you in that fight, and direct the force in either defense or offense. I believe if a person had a high mental capacity, they can do many things at the same time. Like dueling, while force pushing, while levitating at the same time. Probably has a lot to do with your "oneness" with the force as well.
Also, sith cant project themselves as force ghosts because they use the force in a negative way. Essentially, the force is being petty with them.
i have watched from very early the rise of wendigoon and pigpen, the iceberg genre has gained a fierce new competitor in you. remember me at 100k my friend
I appreciate it! Fingers crossed!
52:03 A couple days ago I thought I'd found a mandela effect because I found out there's actually a couple live action Ewok movies. I'd NEVER heard anyone mention them anywhere. But further research concluded that people do remember them existing.
You always hear about the terrible Christmas Special but never about the Ewok movies.
All force combatants have a type of shield in the force surrounding them which is why usually when they are caught off guard or exhausted it becomes easier to use force abilities on said opponent because in that moment their force barrier either faltered or dissipated. This usually don't last long though because force combatants also use the force to bolster their energy and strength when fighting just every living being has a limit. The reason why its confusing is because the force is a seemingly infinite entity with countless applications but i hope that kind of gives you an idea as to why force users cant just implode one another on sight lmao.
Keep making more Star Wars icebergs. Very little was new to me.
Lots of lore!
The sith blades are only red because they have the goal of concurring the force. The colors of the crystal are in connection with the force and the wielder. The red color is the embodiment of the conquering of the force with regard to the lightsaber part of it all
SPOILER FOR STAR WARS JEDI SURVIVOR:
There is a boss you will encounter that appears as a good Jedi then changes his crystal from yellow to red in front of you (using the force) his own hatred changing the gem.
Good shit my guy keep it up
Thanks!! I appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching.
The Force, as I've learned, seems to be a metaphor for the constant internal amd external struggle within and outside each and every person on this Earth.
Anyway, come join the Dark Side. We promise we won't betray you and make you hate everybody and everything.
Technically everyone is connected to the force, but not everyone was born to the bonded connection to the force, and Shmi Skywalker is the great example of someone who is not born to or cannot wield the power of the force, but has a powerful enough connection with it to bare a conceived child through it; and this is a very rare case of a possible star child of the force, because in most cases of producing a Jedi child is if a Jedi or rather a force user would have a secret relationship with a non-force user will most assuredly be the parents of a force sensitive who might become the next future force user, but we never got to see if there have been two force users who gets Married and have a child of their own. Are their any notable couple that were both force users and had a family together in the graphic novels, if yes then why were there no revelation in either the games or the movies (Excluding the two Kotor games)? 😊
Very informative ❤ i learned so much by this video alone
Yay! Thanks for watching!
Chewie was the Jesus of Star wars like jimmeni cricket .
It's in the name. It even means Jesus.
I am sort of familiar with the Star Forge thing, and in the 3 times I have reached that Island in "Knights of The Old Republic" for the original Xbox, I could never find the way to get inside the building and I still don't know how to get in it now.
Hahaha I remember being frustrated there too, might need to replay it
The Sith make their crystals bleed. Same crystal as before but its now been warped by evil and is irreversible
Interesting, I think other people mentioned that it could be reversed. Maybe it’s not clear?
@VaultVideosYT tbh with the new Disney Canon I don't know for sure myself anymore 😅 they'll most likely retcon it and change year by year
😂 they’ll be fighting with nerf blasters before we know it
Man, I used to think Star Wars was so interesting and cool and sank deep into the lore for years and I just don’t care anymore. Why am I even writing this? Who am I?
It’s ok, we’re all just finding joy in different things. Sometimes those things change
Your still yourself man, everyone changes and develops and despite not caring anyone you still have that inert Star Wars knowledge and past connection to it and that will never change, your mind now seeks to explore other lore and other aspects of life but this doesn’t change Star Wars impact on you
Same man
Star Trek saves lives
You're the secret journalist of the Whills.
Brother make a part two🔥
It’s on the list!! Thanks for watching!
Man I got to be honest, the whole bleeding a lightsaber crystal is so fucking stupid to me. The whole reason why the sith use red crystals is because in the EU (The true cannon, suck my ass Disney) natural red crystals was super rare, I mean only a few sith in the Star Wars galaxy history ever had one that we know off. So they had to use synthetic red crystals, the opposite of Jedi and there natural crystals, a Ying Yang scenario that also fit the two factions well..
It would be great if you add chapters to video
3:02 because the Force is a *utility* to *all Sith,* while the Force is an *ally* in different ways to all Jedi, based on their relationship with it. Someone could be a guardian of the Force and have a blue lightsaber, or a consular interested in reflecting on the nature of the Force and get a green lightsaber, or a guard of the Jedi Order itself and get a yellow lightsaber, but a Sith will always *use* the Force abusively, refusing any such Jedi relationship with the Force.
Interesting, hadn’t thought of that!
@@VaultLore Great video, dude! The thing I love about Star Wars iceberg videos is that a franchise as sprawling as Star Wars isn't really just one iceberg - it's more like... well, an asteroid field. With a bunch of unrelated or tangentially related icebergs floating around and bumping into each other sometimes. Each individual property in the Star Wars universe has a "beneath the iceberg", and some are insane if you really dig into them. I kind of liked how you grabbed a little from a bunch of different sectors of the universe to talk about!
Haha I started digging thinking I could put a lot in one video before realizing the sprawling world that like 1000 different authors have contributed to. Glad you liked the video!
35:56 I know nothing about Star Wars really but if the other person had the same strength you can’t really do it to them. And it’d be too gorey for disney
Yeah I think it has more to do to with the gore. Against another force user, I agree it might not work, but a non force user shouldn’t really be able to stop it..
@@VaultLore oh non force user yeah no reason really. I thought you meant in sith/jedi duels😭.
40:58 One word: DATAPAD
Is this legends? Or canon. I hope its not canon
Ugh Disney lore for crystals is so dumb
Clicking the video I cannot imagine how you can condense Legends into less than 50min, we‘ll see
Edit: Alright minute 3 and you mentioned the crystal cave on Dantooine, good job, you shall be forgiven any further current canon nonsense, as you are probably „forced“ to do it ❤😂
Thanks for watching! It’s just a snapshot, but I tried my best! I’m sure there are some inaccuracies in there, but there’s so much Star Wars lore out there
@@VaultLore I‘m that type of guy to judge people, or in this case videos, too early. Left a comment back then on the first video I watched from you, was absolutely stunned. Keep up the amazing work, if I can give a tiny suggestion, it‘s no sin to re-record your voiceover when you pronounce a word wrong or get stuck on a certain word. Tiny tiny tiny thing I noticed, people who are not as autistic as I am probably don‘t even notice it, but I‘d like to suggest the improvement because in my opinion, that would be the last step to bring your videos, at least for me, to absolute perfection. Please never do less depth, less detail, less video length or similar. You are building an incredibly loyal community, compared to 10-20min essay channels, you will PERSIST, instead of living off some hype :)
I appreciate it! I try to correct and look up pronunciations when I can, I don’t get them all, but these videos are like a straight hour of voiceover, so it’s hard to catch the all. Thanks for watching though!
Rekata is pronounced nothing like ricotta
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It's there a series more popular that Star Wars?.... Funny you forgot about Star Trek 🤣
This is a great video but, because Disney have effectively killed Star Wars, they've caused me to lose any real interest I ever had. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was infinitely better than ANYTHING the house of mouse crapped out. Such a shame!
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Such a shame what has become of Star Wars these days
Yeah, idk most of the lore I pulled seemed to come more from the books (of which there are many), and come comics. Most people I read posts from aren’t huge fans of current day Star Wars.
Nah.😅 Last films was bad (lots of directors with diffrent vision) but Filloni is trying.😅😊
My opinion, subjective obviously.😅
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@@VaultLore strange obscure and scary diseases and viruses would be a cool iceberg keep building the vault your very consistent
Oh good idea! Might just have to do that one.
Four seconds in.. yes, star trek. Also star wars was fantasy. Sorry. Had to.
To say that Star Trek is more popular than Star Wars is just downright false
@@kanyepepper9977 whatever Kanye it was clearly a joke calm your padawan nerves down. Your opinion is noted I'm sure some trekkies would argue but in the end they aren't the same kind of story and the people that like more science stuff will like Trek and people that like magic abilities and more action like star wars. If they are written well.
@@aaronbaron3155 this response could’ve been a banger if you didn’t word it like a monkey smacking a keyboard