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    0:00 - The WARZONE META Has a Glaring Issue…
    0:56 - How Weapon Changes In WARZONE Are Approached
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    In this video, we're breaking down the new WARZONE META Updates and the issues they present! The WARZONE 3 META is always evolving, with buffs and nerfs coming for a lot of the BEST WEAPONS, however the main approach to Weapon Balancing in WARZONE seems a bit flawed currently...
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Komentáře • 468

  • @WhosImmortal
    @WhosImmortal  Před 8 dny +30

    The WARZONE META Changes as of late have revealed a trend that seems to be limiting the potential of a lot of weapons this year... Thanks for watching!

    • @jayclark7678
      @jayclark7678 Před 8 dny +3

      Thank you for what you do Immortal! Question: What’s a strong SMG you can recommend me for Warzone that’s not the: WSP-9, Superi, or Horus?

    • @dash-4150
      @dash-4150 Před 8 dny

      Need an update to lower body damage too

    • @NateHartness-tx4hl
      @NateHartness-tx4hl Před 8 dny +4

      The reason they do that is to push people to buy the game cause lvling up guns in multi-player is easier and faster than lvling it in wz nd we all know all they care about is $$$

    • @dannywhirley8031
      @dannywhirley8031 Před 8 dny +1

      Lachman 556

    • @wolfwhisperer115
      @wolfwhisperer115 Před 8 dny +2

      Am I the only person that remembers that like 3 week period in wz1 after they buffed all the mw19 and cw guns where literally almost everything besides the dragonov was usable there was no defined meta ofc tho cod being cod they buffed something after a few weeks

  • @darionakins9064
    @darionakins9064 Před 8 dny +145

    MW2 need recoil/firing visibilty buffs. No reason to keep the old guns in the game if they are unusable. I shouldnt NEED a conversion kit to make a gun usable

    • @WhosImmortal
      @WhosImmortal  Před 8 dny +25

      facts

    • @walterdeo9697
      @walterdeo9697 Před 8 dny +6

      Yeah, and those big barrel need major mobility buff, too. Just see how the Bruen Bridle Heavy barrel destroy the Tr76, one of the few competitive mw2 rifle.

    • @bigjimstream
      @bigjimstream Před 8 dny +15

      They don't care if they are usable. In fact, they prefer it if they are not. They just want to be able to say that you have access to what you spent money on. Ask yourself how can Activision get the most money out of this situation and that's usually what they implement. " I spent my hard earned money on these guns. Can I still use them?". "Of course you can valued customer, you can use all the blueprints we sold you anytime your heart desires. Keep in mind, however, that if getting kills is your goal, you might want to purchase some newer blueprints that leverage the latest meta technologies :P. Thank you and good night".

    • @Bhadtiming
      @Bhadtiming Před 8 dny +1

      @@bigjimstreamright on the money 😂

    • @epixboom6557
      @epixboom6557 Před 8 dny

      And that my friend is the biggest problem I have with the game

  • @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo
    @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo Před 8 dny +64

    They create the META based upon the battle pass and bundles. If they created the META based upon whats actually good for the game we wouldn't have this issue

    • @kyleharper6446
      @kyleharper6446 Před 8 dny +3

      If they didnt make the battle pass guns meta then what would be the point in adding guns every season. They want people to use the new guns. As for the bundles i agree.

    • @CharlieBigron
      @CharlieBigron Před 8 dny +2

      ​@@kyleharper6446 they make the battle pass guns the best 9 time out of 10

    • @kyleharper6446
      @kyleharper6446 Před 8 dny

      @@CharlieBigron prety good track record then

    • @vicentefarina2059
      @vicentefarina2059 Před 8 dny

      FAX

    • @CharlieBigron
      @CharlieBigron Před 8 dny +3

      @kyleharper6446 if they made them level with the other meta guns people would use them anyway, they just make them op so people buy bundles then nerf them to the ground after a month or so

  • @walterdeo9697
    @walterdeo9697 Před 8 dny +34

    I swear the devs always go for nerfing 1 2 top meta weapons instead of buffing the peashooters and hitmarkers 😢

    • @ValorantFTW_
      @ValorantFTW_ Před 8 dny

      Thanks for stating the obvious

    • @Massivebloop
      @Massivebloop Před 4 dny

      ​@ValorantFTW_ It's obvious to us but not to the devs they are oblvious.

  • @KeithFlick521
    @KeithFlick521 Před 8 dny +28

    Warzone 1 had the perfect meta and recoil control

    • @RaVeJB
      @RaVeJB Před 8 dny +6

      They had the biggest & best game as well they've ruined that 😂

    • @Texarmageddon
      @Texarmageddon Před 8 dny +1

      Gonna disagree ….

    • @h1tr0n1cs8
      @h1tr0n1cs8 Před 8 dny

      Dmr wants to know your location

    • @nolga3569
      @nolga3569 Před 8 dny +1

      @@h1tr0n1cs8 dmr meta was so much fun, was a perfect counter to the snipers. only no aim timys hated it.

  • @Celibrimbor
    @Celibrimbor Před 8 dny +12

    How else would they sell their infinite bundles with this week's buffed gun?

  • @garriallen9912
    @garriallen9912 Před 8 dny +6

    The meta was fine before they added the Kar. Now it’s just boring.
    Guns come and go but before the Kar there was 1 gun in particular dominating, some were better sure but not like it is now where you go in a room and see 56 sniper glints and die from the same weapon every time.
    Kar has completely changed the resurgance game mode, it’s gone from people running around to staying on top of buildings

    • @scottyg1834
      @scottyg1834 Před 8 dny

      No more truer words have been written down!

    • @philipmarkovic544
      @philipmarkovic544 Před 8 dny

      But there was always a major problem with snipers, also back in MW2, I miss viable snipers that can one shot headshot and where you can zoom in quickly and play competitive with it. It was soo boring for the longest time to stick to MPs and ARs and sometimes shotguns. Not having a decent sniper rifle is really showing that ppl would cry about it bc now the users are camping in buildings/on rooftops and just snipe everyone across the map. I understand tho that on rebirth it is actually a little bit silly as the map is not that big. The fact is that snipers should be as strong as the Kar98, everything else doesnt make sense. At least reduce the body/leg damage and make it one shot to the head from within unlimited range, everything else is stupid as this is not the purpose of a sniper

  • @mysticalmayhem8546
    @mysticalmayhem8546 Před 8 dny +13

    My biggest issue is that most nerfs and buffs come from the changes sledgehammer makes to the multiplayer and only a few things are adjusted for WZ only

  • @yeright2pops434
    @yeright2pops434 Před 8 dny +17

    Rebirth is ruined now that everyone uses the Kar. It’s a joke.

    • @drewkirton4224
      @drewkirton4224 Před 8 dny

      Do you enjoy 2 shot snipers?

    • @manolisminadakis930
      @manolisminadakis930 Před 8 dny

      Exactly

    • @astadagouki8160
      @astadagouki8160 Před 8 dny +1

      Blame the masses who voiced so loudly for it to be in the game. It was the exact same in WZ1 I don't know how we forget so easily.

    • @smokeyjo7957
      @smokeyjo7957 Před 8 dny

      If the long range guns that hit hard were more accurate the kar would not be so dominant. The lmg and ar’s are a joke. As soon as the cry babies cry they get there way. It’s just sad. Wz1 had so much more variety and the kar was just as strong. Also the companies are just here to sell bundles. Facts

    • @yeright2pops434
      @yeright2pops434 Před 8 dny

      @@smokeyjo7957 Ya. And I don’t spent a penny on COD.

  • @L3XisLIVE
    @L3XisLIVE Před 8 dny +3

    The low BV on long range autos is so noticeable in this game, its one of the reasons the Kar is so dominant

  • @jason19twofour
    @jason19twofour Před 8 dny +5

    Guns feeling like pea shooters takes me out of it a lot. It's like I could just go play airsoft if I wanted to but in a video game I want to use deadly weapons I would never play around with.

    • @jackchorley1836
      @jackchorley1836 Před 8 dny

      Hardcore?

    • @jason19twofour
      @jason19twofour Před 8 dny

      @@jackchorley1836 I like hardcore, still like Warzone too but in MWIII I'm always trying different guns and attachments.

  • @shamar5673
    @shamar5673 Před 8 dny +4

    The majority of guns are just too underwhelming tbh. Really hope they do something about that

    • @WhosImmortal
      @WhosImmortal  Před 8 dny +1

      Yup, and a ton of them are former top options they nerfed too hard

  • @aryansingh68946
    @aryansingh68946 Před 8 dny +8

    Also can we talk abt those two talking shit to each other in chat asking to 1 v 1 or to come to control 😭😭😭😭

  • @tuckerlaney7970
    @tuckerlaney7970 Před 8 dny +2

    The Kar98 is the problem rn, we have literally 2 ZERO RECOIL weapons. Not click bait no recoil, A real no recoil weapon in the AK conversion kits and they dont even come close to the KAR98 at range.

  • @YY-nezy
    @YY-nezy Před 8 dny +4

    3:04 they need to fix that reload bug

    • @bluewall1775
      @bluewall1775 Před 8 dny

      Its super annoying, but best workaround (other than them actually fixing their game but lets be honest....) is once you see the ammo number reset just yy and it cancels the animation

  • @Seddysaid
    @Seddysaid Před 8 dny +1

    Exactly! They just need to increase recoil, lower the bullet velocity and slower ADS on the meta guns. They dont have to nerf or buff only the damage to make a gun good or bad. If it's going to be a gun with zero recoil then it can't be the highest damage gun.

  • @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo
    @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo Před 8 dny +24

    They put out a broken 1 shot sniper and make every AR shoot marshmallows and wonder why the Meta is down to 3 or 4 guns

    • @wwhisperwolf
      @wwhisperwolf Před 8 dny +2

      It’s not broken, it’s how it’s suppose to be (you would know if you played Warzone 1) the problem is they keep nerfing everything else so people can focus on the “broken” gun and spend more money in the stores / increase active members.

    • @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo
      @Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo Před 8 dny +8

      @@wwhisperwolf the gun literally has no flinch wtf are you talking about? I been playing COD for over 20 years and played warzone 1. The gun is broken and that's why everyone including myself is using it. The KAR and the Swiss were both broken and are the main reasons for warzone to get away from 1 shot snipers in the 1st place

    • @wwhisperwolf
      @wwhisperwolf Před 8 dny +1

      @@Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo you missed my point and it seems that was due to your emotional response. 20 years is dope though!

    • @prd0923
      @prd0923 Před 8 dny +2

      ​@@wwhisperwolf So wait. You don't think the Kar is broken the way it is? The Ads is absolutely insane and the ttk feels essentially the same up to freakin the entire rebirth island map lol how's that not broken bro? I just think the ads needs to be slowed up a bit and it needs to be a tad harder for folks to use. Keep it strong, keep it meta.. but make it a tad tougher for folks to handle.

    • @smokeyjo7957
      @smokeyjo7957 Před 8 dny +1

      The problem is they keep nerfing the long range ar’s and lmg’s. They are a joke. You buff those and I agree maybe limit one shot range to say 60-70 meters on the kar. ADS is depending on scope. Quick ads = way more aiming idle sway do its way harder to hit shots. That’s the trade off. Kar is a love hate relationship right now lol. Buff the long range guns and put the greed aside trying to sell bundles !!

  • @thataggiekid
    @thataggiekid Před 8 dny +1

    My biggest complaint on PS5 with a really monitor is I cannot see dark enemies at all when I shoot with an iron sights. If I go watch a streamer on twitch, I see them just fine when they do it. Why can’t I?

    • @WhosImmortal
      @WhosImmortal  Před 8 dny

      Could be some monitor settings, elgato settings, etc for some of it fwiw

  • @vinceheins
    @vinceheins Před 8 dny +7

    At this point it’s easier to list guns that shoudlnt receive a buff than saying which gun does: superi, horus, kar, sva

  • @franch1se2308
    @franch1se2308 Před 8 dny +1

    I'm just confused on how ammo calibers don't have different damage. Also, unique or niche weapons should be more impactful if mastered. They rockets on the game and no one running bomb squad but you can't one shot unless it direct hits? I understand that this isn't the most realistic game but games like Halo and Gears basically put players against one another with the same guns, meaning skill separates them. On this, you have to have a meta gun. They basically force you to play with certain guns.

  • @Who_am_I_to_judge1
    @Who_am_I_to_judge1 Před 8 dny +4

    If people used other guns then the meta probably wouldn’t happen as much but when they look at they metrics and 95% of the community use the same gun and setup it’s a no brainer, in warzone 1 so many guns were usable but everyone didn’t spam the meta as much as now

  • @LOCOSCLAN718
    @LOCOSCLAN718 Před 8 dny +4

    A Gun name is irrelevant. Its about what the gun is capable of. Keep weapons balanced but also taylor weapon to player game style. No need for extreme Meta or a Meta that completely changes the game play as a whole. Example: Kar 98. Its not just overpowering but it destroys flow of game. You all know what I mean. Great Video

    • @angeldelgado8221
      @angeldelgado8221 Před 8 dny

      I got you there

    • @nolga3569
      @nolga3569 Před 8 dny

      extreme meta is how they sell skins. Default skin gang, F. the store and this pos company.

  • @Stopa_OFG
    @Stopa_OFG Před 8 dny +1

    Yo 3:35 that dude was gone lmao dude was running while shutting doors behind him 😂

  • @Selling-McCarthyism
    @Selling-McCarthyism Před 8 dny +3

    Equipping the Kastov with the aftermarket part and an 8x scope is underrated

    • @mikethestoner
      @mikethestoner Před 8 dny +1

      😂 mans beaming from narnia

    • @Selling-McCarthyism
      @Selling-McCarthyism Před 8 dny +2

      @@mikethestoner gotta use that full auto sniper to your advantage somehow 🤣

  • @wavyjetsguy
    @wavyjetsguy Před 8 dny +1

    My attachments keep disappearing in rebirth on my horus is that bug fixed 😢

  • @Dubzee_Gaming
    @Dubzee_Gaming Před 8 dny

    Mental to think i used the hdr + kilo setup from day 1 wz1 till caldera, maybe even half way through that, i cant remember if available. But with this warzone ive had to change guns every season to keep up with the meta as the base guns feel like im shooting bubbles 😢

  • @mikezr1
    @mikezr1 Před 8 dny +1

    Yes leave the top smg and ar, lmg at top metas but buff every other gun up to that level. It now takes a whole mag to kill one person on these weapons.

  • @QuickCuriosity150
    @QuickCuriosity150 Před 8 dny +2

    i would love to see explosive ammo be one shot for all snipers. but keep it with good velocity and give it a different con like ads time or something

    • @DDog1125
      @DDog1125 Před 8 dny

      A better idea would be to make all sniper rifles and a few of the marksman rifles one shot within their maximum damage range only. Then make it so explosive ammo would allow you to have an infinite one shot headshot range.

  • @vicentefarina2059
    @vicentefarina2059 Před 8 dny +1

    4:25 that point it's so true bro. Thats why now instead of Warzone, we are playing Karkzone cause they are constantily Nerfing all Full auto Long range METAs and also Snipers for no reason. Playing with the Kark98 is so fun I'm not gonna lie. But i prefer go back to the Dg-58 META than playing the "i got 1 shot killed simulator" cause High Alert is working so bad and saves u 1/10 times.

  • @CrZy_-888
    @CrZy_-888 Před 8 dny

    Man.. I've been saying this. I really want to use other weapons and have some sort of individuality but when I do build a class that should work. Doesn't because there's always a broken ttk meta. Give me the blackout days of finding a gun and picking up attachments and perks

  • @Jetsons19
    @Jetsons19 Před 8 dny

    It’s literally no ar guns to use and my barrel is still bugged on the h26 factory barrel

  • @GinenTawnik
    @GinenTawnik Před 8 dny

    Absolutely agree.. especially as a casual player, and with my friends who haven't bought the game, it is so frustrating to chase the meta, level up a gun, while getting destroyed by it, only to have it nerfed as soon as you have a viable build for it... This alternative just makes sense... Why don't they do this??

  • @AnubisVonBillett
    @AnubisVonBillett Před 8 dny +1

    This is every PvP game ever. It's the industry standard at this point. Ubisoft did this to the game, 'The Division' making gear you may have litterally grinded for hours or even days for useless. Every game.

  • @knolsey
    @knolsey Před 8 dny

    the devs need to do three things when approaching the meta.
    1. approach weapon fire rates, velocity, and damage profiles by caliber.
    2. remove the extra 50 hp that makes it impossible to have a proper balance between one shot weapons, and automatic weapons.
    3. buff and nerf guns to bring them ALL as close together, while maintaining their class and caliber specialties.
    .300blk and 5.45x39 for instance are similar in a lot of ways, but 5.45 has velocity, while .300 has fire rate.
    5.56 has damage and a mid velocity, while 4.6x30 has similar power, but it accomplishes it by have a higher fire rate and velocity from base.
    the perfect example is the BAL27, Hurricane, and PDSW are all the same caliber. the Hurricane should be an AR, not an SMG though. the BAL (Not Real) and Hurricane (B&T AR57) should be usable in the mid-long, with high fire rates and easier recoil patterns than the PDSW, while the PDSW (FN P90) has the velo to hit pot shots out at that range, but has the high fire rate, and takes advantage of the rounds high stopping power in the close-mid ranges.
    one more for the road, 7.62x39. i'm going to again take 3 guns and explain. the Kas762, MTZ762 Heretic kit, and the TR76 Geist. with these weapons the Geist (Malyuk) is a purpose built mid-long range bullpup, made to bridge the gap between AR and DMR; making it a mid-long demon with abilities to be used if needed in cqc. the Kas762 (AK-103) is an all around weapon, which is able to be used as an all purpose weapon, being good at all fields, but not dominate in any. the MTZ762 Heretic (CZ Bren 2) is a cqc weapon, purpose built for the close-mid, while still being able to defend at longer ranges, but not excel.
    Speaking from experience, and chose the rounds i did here, as i have a SIG MCX Canebrake .300blk, B&T AR57, CZ Bren 2, and IWI Tavor 21 (in 7.62) in my collection. the Tavor 21 (Ram 7) and the Malyuk (Geist) are very similar weapons. i didn't speak on the ram, as the ram7 in game is the 5.56 model, not the 7.62. really hope devs read comments, and see this one.
    Firearms, and special tactics instructor, Quantico.

  • @King_Ant13
    @King_Ant13 Před 8 dny

    Can you tell the devs to fix my ping. I can't see when my teammates ping a location or enemies. It sucks

  • @bigjimstream
    @bigjimstream Před 8 dny +3

    Zach, I think this is tapping into some human behavioral dynamics :).
    The vast majority of casual players like to play with the same guns especially if it took some time to level up those guns and they have built some muscle memory with recoil pattern and any other quirks. If the guns are "slightly nerfed" or if the guns are "reasonably close" to the new meta most casual players won't take the time or the money to change weapons.
    So, in order to entice casuals to use different weapons, buy blueprints and other gun related bundles, they have to make the new guns dramatically better and their old guns dramatically worse. Not only that, if people have invested money in a blueprint, they want to use their cool guns so if these blueprints are "reasonably close" to the new meta they won't switch.
    I think Activision's gun nerf and buff strategy solely hinges around DLC sales. Just like SBMM or EOMM, it's all about keeping you gaming more and spending more.
    It's a cynical point of view but I believe all the decisions made by Activision are about prying every possible dollar from your fingers :).

    • @ozomucho
      @ozomucho Před 8 dny

      yah their money grubbing POS

    • @christophernewby6377
      @christophernewby6377 Před 8 dny +1

      You're absolutely spot on. EVERYTHING is about money these days. Awful state of the world.

  • @killz6198
    @killz6198 Před 8 dny

    Thank you for bringing more attention to this and more into the light! always appreciated Homie! SKO!

  • @henry06x
    @henry06x Před 7 dny +1

    Just got the awesome lookin exclusive monster blueprint for the HRM from watching huskers and guess what. It’s unusable now and dead

  • @sturdymonkey7112
    @sturdymonkey7112 Před 8 dny

    I’ve been saying this since MW19/ OG Warzone/Rebirth Island…. Instead of nerfing OP n meta weapons into the ground just buff the trash ones to match em. Now ppl have more options instead of selecting meta then finding another when it gets nerf then on n on with the cycle

  • @BiG_EaZyy
    @BiG_EaZyy Před 8 dny

    All SMGs should be between 615-620ms ttk up to 12 meters, and all long range ARs/LMGs/BRs should be around 900-920ms ttk with bullet velocity being around 1050-1100.
    Only thing that should feel different is recoil, handling speed, rate of fire, etc.. but with those TTKs we could legit use whatever we wanted. Idk why it's so hard.

  • @2high2play908
    @2high2play908 Před 8 dny

    It’s all about bundles, if you have that 1 op gun (mostly the new battlepas weapons) they sell more bundles for that gun, rinse and repeat each season. They don’t want you to play with one gun, cause you only need 1 bundle for that one gun.

  • @harkov_416
    @harkov_416 Před 8 dny

    This is a good point, buffing the other guns around the best stats atm is better than nerfing it. Bullet velocity and effective damage ranges are imo the stats that need an improvement at the very least in marksman and snipers.

  • @Kurts_Kayaking
    @Kurts_Kayaking Před 8 dny

    I agree!!! Because when you add one shot snipers or marksman's and there's no gun that can compete with it

  • @Luke_81
    @Luke_81 Před 8 dny

    The whole idea of loadouts is one of the things that made Warzone so unique, and fun. Back when my friends actually played, it was fun to chat about what guns we were we each using that game. M4, Grau, Ram7, Amax and then the XM4 and CWAK and Krig, etcc......and all of them worked. They were each unique, but they all worked well enough for casual play. We could play for a few hours pulling different guns each game - that was FUN. Now it's like, meh...use whatever but these 2 guns are going to destroy you if you don't always use them. Why even have loadouts if 90% of them are the same guns. And this Kar meta now is terrible. The glints look like fireworks, alllll over the place....everyone has a Kar and they're camped up. And the AA on the KAR shots is wild, there is just no counter except stacking 8 smokes - or just grabbing your own KAR and hiding yourself.

  • @tyruido1175
    @tyruido1175 Před 8 dny

    I absolutely agree. When they went through and nerfed like every single SMG, players were so desperate to find something fun that they managed to find a pistol which when used with a macro had a busted ttk. This shows how annoying these adjustments are.

  • @brigel1401
    @brigel1401 Před 8 dny

    They want to create that “top dog”. People will buy blueprints out of the store if there is that one dominant gun that everyone knows is the meta. They will change it and then sell more blueprints of that meta weapon. All about the sales and income.

  • @Warhammer6578
    @Warhammer6578 Před 8 dny

    I have honestly stopped playing cod and have been taking a break from it till BO5 comes out. I’ve had enough of the hackers and cheaters and for some reason it feels like every gun kills so fast there is no skill in this game anymore. It makes me sad that there is no more skill left in cod😢

  • @XVPSYCOVX
    @XVPSYCOVX Před 8 dny

    I wish they would go back to the blackout weapons system, no weapon grinding for the "meta" attachments. You had 2 choices for barrels, extended or silenced, same with mags fast or extended.

  • @kylewilliam487
    @kylewilliam487 Před 8 dny +1

    I just wish they wouldn’t throw the guns from the last cod in a closet and never look at them again. So many guns that I would love to use that are not viable. I hate that about this game.

  • @Samsmith01
    @Samsmith01 Před 8 dny

    My main reason for leaving warzone is not being able to keep up with the meta. I don’t play for very long and when I do I have to go level the new gun. The gun will be locked and I just don’t have the grind time to unlock, level the gun, then actually have time to go play and use the gun in an actual match. Just a waste of time. Then the gun gets nerfed and I have to restart that process

  • @Jamblin1991
    @Jamblin1991 Před 8 dny

    Zach do you think they will ever bring back floating loot? I despise how it drops to the floor in a mess on top of each other it’s cost me my life tons of times 🤦🏻‍♂️ especially when your in a rush in the gas or the circle is closing in on you 😭

  • @micosworld
    @micosworld Před 8 dny

    That's what I have been saying for a long time! Buff not nerf that's how you diversify! All weapons should have closer times to kill, but have advantages and disadvantages depending on your game style. The MTZ 6.8 is an example of how you nerfed a whole category to the point of being useless, until the Kar-98 made a comeback.

  • @ChrisOosthuizen-xn9rp

    I agree would love to see this aproach but not only with smgs also snipers ARs BRs and lmgs maybe shotguns so everyone can pickyourpoison on their playstyle preferences

  • @ChuteMi-df2es
    @ChuteMi-df2es Před 8 dny

    I get nervous honestly when we as a collective (your viewers) discuss the different loadouts provide for people to try, whether it's in BR or Resurgence, people start to use them and the Devs catch on to how effective they are, and in turn they receive a nerf. A good example of that is the JAK Signal Burst Holger 556, paired with the JAK Scimitar FJX Horus. Those two together are a deadly combination, and just the Scimitar on its own with the low recoil and high mobility, I already expect it'll be getting a nerf at some point. As for the Signal Burst, I don't know.

  • @sn95cruiser
    @sn95cruiser Před 8 dny

    The Meta gun of the month is almost always the one in the battle pass, forcing players to get the battle pass to be competitive.
    My biggest gripe with the limited warzone experiences I've had, is that nearly every weapon so under powered, it may as well be airsoft at this point. Nothing feels good to use unless it's a straight laser beam. Then it's, "oh look I got beamed by another dude with a *insert gun* cross map, again."

  • @mbeck6477
    @mbeck6477 Před 8 dny +2

    I agree they need to buff more useless weapons and nerf less...

  • @ppll2215
    @ppll2215 Před 8 dny

    In my opinion this is a huge reason the KAR has become so op. First, all of the other snipers are simply worse… idk how they managed that. But more importantly, the mid-long range rifle meta has become so slow that you just can’t compete with the fire rate of the KAR. We didn’t see this in wz1 because we had things like the amax which would kill you in as much time as it took to get your second shot off with the KAR

  • @bsnay504
    @bsnay504 Před 8 dny

    I haven't been a fan of any of the AR's this year...I've been using the SOA Subverter since it released--I love how it feels and it hits like a truck if you hit your shots.

  • @bountycollector1090
    @bountycollector1090 Před 7 dny

    I’ve been saying it for years. Make damage and recoil based on the caliber of the gun. 556 less damage but lower recoil when compared to a 308 that will do more damage but more recoil. I think they have made EVERYTHING way more difficult than anything. But no matter what a sniper should be a one shot drop. One 50 cal sniper isn’t magically less powerful than the other. Tired of only being able to use one true sniper. Think they dropped the ball and fell on their face with a lot of this.

  • @surestrike4893
    @surestrike4893 Před 8 dny

    They do need to evaluate all weapons adjustments by looking at the overall weapon pool. Not just within the category. The Kar98 is the perfect example of this. People screaming for it to get nerfed but not thinking about the implications for the category. For instance before the Kar98 who used a marksman rifle? *crickets chirping*. There is no meta for the marksman outside of the Kar98. While there is always a meta option for SMGs, ARs, LMGs, BRs and snipers. Is the Kar98 outperforming snipers? Then there is a problem with the snipers.

  • @MasterPeeps34
    @MasterPeeps34 Před 8 dny

    Every gun categorie should have the same ttk ur attachments should make the deference, u should pick ur attachments carefully according 2 ur play style, power ads or handling

  • @ryansmith302
    @ryansmith302 Před 8 dny

    Great video (as always), and I love the idea of having 4 or 5 viable weapons (depending on the category) instead of 1 or 2. Whenever a new weapon is dropped, I always feel like I'm playing catchup to grind and rank it up for WZ. By the time it's ready, the meta has come and gone.

  • @k0ntroversialgaming
    @k0ntroversialgaming Před 7 dny

    Remember when we have ONE weapon that could compete with the Kar past 40 meters? Then the devs decide it's "too dominant" and nerf it into the ground leading to one of the worst and most frustrating seasons in Warzone history (and I'm not even talking about the cheaters this season).

  • @haterpro0f
    @haterpro0f Před 8 dny

    I totally agree! This meta right now is prime example of that. Not everyone like to snipe and if you don't then you're at a disadvantage long range. So you have to focus more on CQC and mid range fights. Not only that but they way they do it isn't friendly to casual players like my brother n friends. They play other games and dont own multiplayer. They are not going to take time to level up every meta gun like I do. They still use the DG and striker 9. They just need better balance overall imo💯

  • @lloydjohnson2681
    @lloydjohnson2681 Před 8 dny

    I do not think we will see a significant lifting up of MW2 guns where they are on par with MW3 guns because time is quickly passing and we will see BO6 drop. I also think as you have pointed out that if the MW2 guns are not cut out of the upcoming seasons of Warzone we will just be overwhelmed by too much of a selection...most of which will not be used anyway

  • @riosecco4142
    @riosecco4142 Před 8 dny

    Hey Zack, you hit the nail on its head! I stopped buying camos, blueprints, and the battle pass because of the reasons you mentioned in this video. In fact, I haven't spent a single penny on the game since Caldera. I also stopped doing camo grinds. When I did buy a "Pay to win" blueprint and they nerfed it made me feel like a chump or a sucker. I have often wondered if we buy a gun for certain specs and they nerf it, isn't that a bait and switch?? I mean it is like going to buy a new V8 Mustang bc of the horsepower and you drive it around for a few weeks. Then one day you open your garage and all of a sudden you have a V6. If you buy (pay cash!) for a blueprint it should not be nerfed. It is bad business and they will not get any more of my money

  • @Esoterric
    @Esoterric Před 8 dny

    As much as I would like it, I don't think it matters more than money. When something like the KAR comes along and is so strong and/or nostalgic, it drives some people to spend and buy whether it be a battle pass upgrade, a pack in the store, or just generally playing more (player engagement comes up on earnings calls) to get it right now. Being there are millions of players, if 1 in 100 buy a pack for $20 that's at least a gun that is 7-figure profit.
    It can't be that hard to balance guns with algos that take recoil, movement, damage ranges, accuracy (aim sway/hip/tac/visual distortion), mag size/reload time into account (especially if you limit some of these attachments).

  • @tonyk92
    @tonyk92 Před 6 dny

    I 100% agree with this and have been saying this forever. There's a few different guns that I love the feel of but they just don't stand up when someone has the current meta.

  • @TheBourbonWrench
    @TheBourbonWrench Před 8 dny

    Changing the settings on a weapon is something a dev can do during their poop break. It’s simple; buff weapons that a team has been working on skins/store bundles for, let it go for a couple of weeks, nerf it and buff another gun the team has also made store bundles for. Money money money. That’s all this is. It isn’t about the game, it isn’t about the players, it isn’t about fun. MONEY. No amount of complaining will ever change it at this point. Now that the cash cow has been established, this will be our reality.

  • @bighaus224
    @bighaus224 Před 8 dny

    It's not rocket science. It's just money. You can't sell skins for guns if they aren't constantly churning the meta.

  • @Jimstone216
    @Jimstone216 Před 8 dny

    Call of duty usually does a pretty good job with counter attacks (perks tacticals etc) so we just need weapons to counter counter weapons, the dg58 I didn’t personally use as I am a sniper but it was great counter to me sniping, made me pick and choose my battles a little different which I liked the challenge of and kept it feeling fun and refreshing

  • @realpandalol1841
    @realpandalol1841 Před 8 dny

    would be amazing to see gun play much like earlier titles where everyone had their specific guns they ran and they would still do damage to lobbies and it was cool seeing so many different guns all the time. i.e. now its all KAR98k, superi or fjx and thats it

  • @davidcook1057
    @davidcook1057 Před 8 dny

    This is exactly what I would like to see. All the nerfing has killed this game for me. I stopped playing and don’t have any desire to keep grinding new guns. I understand certain guns need to be nerfed as mentioned. But the constant tweaking is exhausting, and I don’t have the time to keep finding and grinding new guns. Trying a new style of play is fun. But working on your 5th AR, or 6th SMG - just dumb. You can’t get comfortable with a load out - knowing it will likely be nerfed and the feel will be destroyed.

  • @johnlayne2956
    @johnlayne2956 Před 8 dny

    Smg feel like their in a pretty decent spot right now. Need to focus on the other classes more.

  • @johnlayne2956
    @johnlayne2956 Před 8 dny

    Marksman Battlerifles and ARs just feel useless right now. And ehy the hell is the holger 26 quicker than the 556 lol. Its weird.

  • @wwhisperwolf
    @wwhisperwolf Před 8 dny

    This can be solved by just having all weapons equal in its category…. That’s it . Let people chose their favorite weapons. This whole “Meta” is to draw more attention to the store which will never end. It’s exhausting to turn a game on two weeks later and you have to go grind a new weapon because is the new meta.

  • @julio3421
    @julio3421 Před 3 dny

    There's 10 categories of weapons. That's one meta for each. Make it last 3 weeks then change it up again on each tier

  • @joshuamorford6990
    @joshuamorford6990 Před 8 dny

    It would be nice to see a game mode with higher health like, 500 or 600 most of that being regular health, not plates. Extra plates was a terrible idea, i think mostly because when you dont have plates youre at a bigger disadvantage and it plays super cheesy

  • @JoshuaAaronLopez
    @JoshuaAaronLopez Před 8 dny +5

    Anybody else getting tired of 1 shot snipers. You can’t push anyone without having 2 sniper glints look at you

    • @JohnsBond007
      @JohnsBond007 Před 8 dny

      The Game Has Been a Joke For Quite some time !

  • @bloodyangels69
    @bloodyangels69 Před 8 dny

    I've been playing warzone only since MW3 dropped and I've been having lots of fun. I then discovered a website to look out for builds and stuff and the website also showed a certain percentage of the guns usage and when i started the top guns weren't even in the 3-4% people using them. Since they just decided to nerf the top dog instead of just buffing other guns, the top 5 guns on that website are all going from 5-10% of people using them, which make a really boring meta because it's pretty much always the same guns that we see on people ( right now, superi and kar98k obviously ). Would love the same as what you said and what many people are saying, just buff guns to bring them more in line toward maybe the meta weapon or close to so we can have more variety and a more diverse warzone experience!

  • @nicholasgangwer4895
    @nicholasgangwer4895 Před 8 dny

    I’m having success with the MTZ 556/Bryson 890 combo. The Kar 98 is clear cut meta but this combo works and is a good way to close the gap on these stationary snipers

  • @mikenunz
    @mikenunz Před 8 dny

    Here's the problem: Acti is devoted to making a lot of guns so that you will 1) grind and increase playtime 2) buy a DLC or 3) both. It's that simple. They dont really care about weapon balancing and healthy gun choices because that would limit their ability to make you play more or buy $hit.
    Instead of having 70+ guns to choose from, or an endless scroll time trying to find the one scope you actually want, they could just make like 20 guns that do uniquely different things to match game style. Fast guns, guns for distance, guns for close quarters. Like 2-3 guns each type. That's it.
    It'll NEVER happen.

  • @itswebb4799
    @itswebb4799 Před 8 dny

    That would be awesome. So tired of using the same 2 or 3 guns all the time. Would be nice to be able to pick between a good amount

  • @XDoGG117
    @XDoGG117 Před 8 dny

    Updating the MW2 attatchment pool with better statistics more comparable to the MW3 attatchments

  • @dorianbrito8956
    @dorianbrito8956 Před 8 dny

    100% agree with buffing more guns than nerfing the best to the ground. keeping a handful of guns top tier is the way to go. Example being the DG and the Holger 26, before the DG became META they were neck and neck and you had the freedom to use either gun and you wouldnt be punished in game for using one over the other. Only after they buffed the DG was the Holger not considered.

  • @austinmcginley8212
    @austinmcginley8212 Před 8 dny +4

    Weapons are inconsistent tbh one day the bp50 is dominating then the next day I can’t even knock ppl

    • @austinmcginley8212
      @austinmcginley8212 Před 8 dny

      It goes for all weapons

    • @DGRIFF
      @DGRIFF Před 8 dny

      The other day, the superi sucked for me. My teammates were having the same problem. It's like they secretly nerfed it or something. We haven't played WZ since so not sure if it was a fluke or what.

    • @austinmcginley8212
      @austinmcginley8212 Před 8 dny +1

      @@DGRIFF also like my ms goes up to 123 and I lagged when I try to kill or get near certain players

    • @DGRIFF
      @DGRIFF Před 8 dny +1

      @austinmcginley8212 yes. My game runs fine until a gunfight and then it stutters. Xbox Series X here.

    • @dash-4150
      @dash-4150 Před 8 dny +2

      That's the AI controlled game play to keep you on as long as possible

  • @donovansmith9463
    @donovansmith9463 Před 8 dny

    Your so right i don’t even know what ar to use it’s a smg game

  • @blicky308
    @blicky308 Před 8 dny

    Im enjoying the superi and kar before they get nerfed . also sucks that the meta changes so much that getting prestige camo on a off meta gun seems pointless . i have small pool of obsidian guns i hope the new meta shifts to those when the new prestige camo drops . fingers crossed for damascus but will most likely be diamond prestige

  • @Brando222
    @Brando222 Před 8 dny

    What gun camo is that? The one in the thumbnail, thanks for the vid appreciate it

    • @WhosImmortal
      @WhosImmortal  Před 8 dny +1

      One of the season 4 warzone rewards ones

  • @nachoneira4852
    @nachoneira4852 Před 8 dny

    Totally agree. If you keep nerfing the best guns, over and over, we end up having only bad guns. Right now, long range gun play (AR/LMG) feels kind of sad. They need to change their balancing strat..

  • @Itskyoku
    @Itskyoku Před 8 dny

    Yup, we definitely need this mentality towards future updates.

  • @PattyCakeJake
    @PattyCakeJake Před 8 dny

    I’m still bitter about the SOA nerf. I loved that BR and it was in a good spot.

  • @Falascoa
    @Falascoa Před 8 dny

    I never understood the nerf first mentality. I don't see anything wrong with buffing the trash to make them usable. I'm not talking about broken guns. The dmr back in verdansk had to be nerfed.

  • @brunobegic3841
    @brunobegic3841 Před 8 dny

    Seems like every time we get a gun that's very good it always gets nerfed into the ground in a few weeks and then we're left with a dull meta until the next good DLC weapon comes out.
    Watch them nerf the Kar98 hard next week and make it unusable instead of tweaking it a bit and making other mediocre weapons more viable.

  • @b3aronyt
    @b3aronyt Před 5 dny

    This is why I'll never buy a gun skin in the store. What's the point of buying a skin for my favorite gun if it'll be nerfed out of existence.

  • @kingjack1813
    @kingjack1813 Před 8 dny

    Completely agree. Battle rifles and marksman rifles are basically useless because of all the nerfs.

  • @kingnaina
    @kingnaina Před 8 dny

    At the end of warzone 1 was a really good time you could use guns from mw19 Cold War and vanguard and feel like you could use a wide range need to get back to that time.

  • @musharaffiqbal7112
    @musharaffiqbal7112 Před 8 dny

    Any gun should have a difference of 30 ms ttk from its counterparts this should include with all the attachment too, lower ttk should give other rewards like movement , recoil or range to compensate, these things would never had been this complicated if they had kept a lower number of Guns and not shitload of gazzilion guns

  • @aminmazloum
    @aminmazloum Před 8 dny

    true , I really want to use the MCW or the Holger 556 ...as long range for example , but no of course I can if i want to but I will be in disadvantage bcz it is mediocre , all the AR's are mediocre in general , like we are forced to use LMGs which is ridicules , the AR's have no place ! what a shame !

  • @ChiliCheesin
    @ChiliCheesin Před 8 dny

    they really should test guns before it comes out imo because I can really only use a variety of weapons on mp because they aren’t great on warzone