Is The Sig Sauer P938 Worth it in 2023?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- This is a video about my thoughts on the sig sauer p938 and it's reliability.
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I've had a p938 for several years. After a few thousand rounds, no jams or tap throughs. Extremely well made, beautiful design. Feels great in the hand, easy to shoot. Little recoil I have the all black version with redwood handles. My permanent CCW. Highly recommended.
Totally agree
I’ve had my P938 since 2018 and never had a problem with it. I’m surprised to learn it’s no longer in production. I recall my county sheriff neighbor telling me: “You bought the best CCW out there. Get some good hollow points and carry the gun with you.” I heed his 40-years in law enforcement advice.
It is still in production. Only the Legion version though which is basically a $200 mark up for grey cerakote and a better grip.
@@dillonh321 A retired FBI friend also commented the P938 is an excellent CCW. Mine is the SAS variant.
They still make the legion version
I carry a Kimber micro 9 , had to return it at first but it works like a dream now after several years.
proud owner of the 938 LEGION; nice shooting 9mm has g10 grips, feels great in my hand,7+ 1rd. been shooting it for4 years NO mishaps. period. I traded my M11 A1 for it and never looked back.could never understand why Sig stopped production. it's a great little gun, hides EASILY under every kind of shirts wear right side OWBjust off the hip.
Just purchased P938 Legion and love it so far.
I got my 938 several years ago when I first started looking into ccw. It's what I used for my ccw course. It's not something I carry year-round, but I'm a small dude, and here in Vegas it's still my go to summer carry when it's like 110+ out and I just want something tiny to go with shorts and a t-shirt.
Not true that Sig has discontinued the 938. The 938 is still on their website and I just purchased the Legion version last week with a manufacturer date of 11-30-23.
Yes I meant certain variants
I carry my Sig P936 in a "Sticky" pocket holster, in my front cargo pants pocket. I use the 7 round magazine, but with a "MagGuts" mag spring to bump the round count to 8+1, w/o any more length. This little Sig does have night sights, but I added an "ArmaLaser" to make targeting easier under stress.
I believe Sig still makes these technically. They have three P938 models still on their website as of July 2023, and I just picked up a P938 Legion brand new at my local gun shop. I haven't started carrying my P938 much yet, but I bought it after falling in love with the smaller P238 which I found myself carrying more often than my Glock 43x or Sig P365 X-Macro. I find both the P238 and P938 easy to shoot accurately despite their small size, probably because of the hammer fired SAO trigger. It's a beautiful gun with a great feel to it.
They def do still make them
Yes I'm not sure but the regular version may have ceased production and now is part of the Legion series which I own and was told by the LGS the Legion will be the current production however one will still see the other versions for a while. So glad I get one .
Same here...
I am not a 9mm guy, but after THREE different P238s that were flawless, I tried the P938 and found it the best shooting gun that I have EVER shot (have owned/carried for almost 50 years), although the one that I bought (used) would jam with EVERY magazine...
I returned it, several months later, found another used one...
THIS one doesn't have quite as good of a trigger (I suspect that the first one had a trigger job done on it), but is still super nice to shoot...
I still carry mostly 380s, but sometimes, the P938 finds its way to my waistline...
Great video. Glad to see your channel return to firearm reviews, etc.
Sig actually does still make these but only a few variants. Bought a P938 BRG new this summer. Next best thing to a 1911.
Stay safe out there.
Thank you and you as well. I have to change up the channel a little bit do to the CZcams restrictions it’s not like when I started unfortunately.
I've got the same gun in the BRG option. I love it for a few reasons....its a micro 9, 1911 format and with me being left handed...ambidextrous safety.
Beautiful review.. i been carrying my p938 for almost 4 years with not problems the only issue i have is the sharp edges that keeps ripping my shirts
Excellent EDC weapon, carried it for the last 7 years.
First 30 seconds of this video summed up my thoughts. Recently got a sig 1911 scorpion and love it, but it's way too heavy for me to carry. I ordered a p938 Legion today as I like the form and function of a 1911. I will say I do own. A Kimber micro 380 and it's been flawless, but looking at the 9mm version they are getting pricey and I hear the quality has dropped as well. The 938 was a no brainer. I also carry a 365, but I really prefer a single action trigger. If the 938 conceals as well as the little kimber micro 380, I will be in heaven.
Well said…
Sig does still make the p938. I recently purchased a new p938 Legion. Manufactured Sept 2022
Yes I meant the two models I have. I want to grab a legion next myself.
Love the micro’s. Disagree about the kimber micro 9. I’ve only had one malfunction and that was one time I tried steel case ammo. Expanding shell would get stuck in the chamber. That was the one and only time. Anything else I put in runs flawless. Kygunco has a sig 938 Sas for 699. That came down some. Thanks for the review
I got a solid deal on a used one a few years back with 6 mags & love it for the art piece it is vs a carry piece not to mention it shoots solid 👍
absolutely
You can get the 365 cheaper.
I have the 938 for years now. Excellent gun, pleasure to shoot.
Great video, watched it twice. I appreciated the clear explanation regarding chambering and unchambering with the safty on. I have been carrying my 938 for close to 8 years. Love everything about this gun. I would suggest to anyone who has carried this gun for as long as I have to take a look at the main spring housing. Check the little nub that the sear spring locks in place with. Mine had worn off and as a result my sear spring had moved upward and rendered the gun unsafe, even though it would fire just fine. The issue was that one of the safety features was not functioning. Sig has upgraded the sear spring and main spring housing. They have made both beefier. All new parts fit first gen just fine..
What safety feature was compromised? Could it have caused a neg discharge?
I have this exact same model , it’s my EDC , 7+1 is all you need . I have small hands and it just feels so natural and comfortable in the hand .
The SAS is the Mac Daddy of the P938 with the dehorned stainless steel slide , two tone and Cocobolo wood grips .
I swapped out the front sight for a Tru Glo tritium / fiber optic one ( best upgrade I’d recommend)
I absolutely love this pistol , flawless function and impeccable performance !
you hit the nail on the head my friend I always find myself coming back to this as my daily and it is super accurate for a short barrel, sig does it right every time.
I called sig yesterday, I live about 45 mins from their nh manufacturing facility. I was actually inquiring about the p322 but thats not relavent. While I had them on the phone I asked if the p938 was still in production. They informed me only the legion model is still being produced. So if you want one, grab em while you can
It’s on my list
There are about a million USED legions on the market, I have no idea why...
@@855LeeHillBilly so for me the main issue with the 938 is the lack of a solid guide rod, and sig not fixing the problem of it eventually coming apart and flinging itself down range if your not vigalent about making sure it is screwed in. Their fix is putting red lock tight on it which is not somthing they do from the manufacturer unless that’s changed. Honestly if the guide rod was solid it’s prob my fav micro 9mm, all metal frame, basically a small 1911. All be it expensive though. Maybe the micro 9mm trend is ending.
I also wonder if people are selling it and swapping it for the p365 legion thats out now.
I’m pissed to hear they stopped production! I’ve had (3) of these 938’s and Loved them all with Sig Factory 7+1 mags! These are very sexy snd reliable in 9mm coming from the 1911 design. My 1st “Rosewood” model was purchased over 10 yrs ago and still looks like the day I bought it and I will “Really” treasure it more than ever! These Sig 938’s work , not sure about Kimber micro 9 and I’m a Kimber Fanboy just why buy theirs when this 938 is beautiful, shoots smooth and is reliable with night sights and Lovely “Rosewood” grips!#MyMicro#Sig938
I have and carried the Kimber Micro 9 for some time now and it is very reliable. Love it!
I carry the p938 with a pocket holster and switch between glock19 depending on the situation.
But the I started with a Kimber and loved it except I had failure to eject and a stove pipe. I then got the p938 in a trade and it’s been nothing but reliable and super accurate for a small pistol.
they are defiantly accurate and reliable
I own the Sig Sauer P938 Nightmare with a Crimson Trace laser on it and two extended magazines (7+1). This has been my EDC for about 7 yrs and will not use any other pistol. I love the 1911 platform as well and do not like Kimbers as I have heard they have a lot of issues. I have had ZERO issues with my Sig P938. Sig Sauer does make the P938 Legion which comes with some cool features.
Yeah I always find my way back to the p938
I bought a P938 Legion and i am very happy with how well it looks and conceals, really just a cool carry gun. I carry also the HK VP9SK at 3 o'clock but this little guy is perfect for quick trips around town and so easy to carry. Ive been watching your channel some and thank you for being a down to earth guy providing great content and as a USCCA member you show a professional manner in your videos so im going to subscribe to your channel 🤜🤛
Thank you very much!
You are wrong in saying that they do not make this gun any more. I recently purchased a legion version that was made the month in which I ordered it. And this not a micro version of a 1911. The trigger is not a 1911 trigger. It is on a hinge.
Absolutely worth it. I'm trading in a 365X after one day because of malfunctions that I'm just not going to tolerate in my EDC. I love P938
What malfunctions ?????
Awesome review. Glad to see new content. I’ll take the 938 over any plastic stack and a half that’s come out recently.
I agree, thank you and I have more gun content coming!
One of my favorite small 9mm CCW pistols. I purchased the FDE Emperor Scorpion model with factory TB. Never had a malfunction and very accurate. I have fired the pistol with a suppressor (Banish 45) and didn't have any malfunctions either. I don't carry cocked and locked but have used SA revolvers my entire life and can draw and cock the hammer like second nature. I prefer safety off, hammer at half cock. I typically carry mine in a Galco OWB belt holster. I value precision, reliability and accuracy highest in my CCW handgun which is a good way to describe the P938. Unfortunately, most people nowadays are interested in pistols that holds the most rounds and the P938 just is not it.
I’ll take accuracy over rounds and if it’s comfortable to carry you will have it on you
I figure if I need to employ a firearm, it’ll probably be within a ten foot distance. My little P938 is just perfect, small, lightweight, big bore.❤
Absolutely
I have something over 5k rounds through mine. Issues have come in twos; two failures to feed, two failures to extract, two failures of disconnector to reset, and two of hammer follow. Since paying for a trigger job to fix the hammer follow, and gluing the plastic bases to the tubes on the 7-rounders, no issues for the last 2k or so. Can't too highly recommend the Cylinder & Slide thumb safety, which makes operation of the safety much more positive.
What did you do to safety?
Installed the C&S replacement. It puts the safety in a more 1911 position, extended slightly forward, and upward angle when engaged, parallel with the slide when disengaged.@@yankeecowboy
nice I'll look them up. can you post a pic to my Facebook page or dm me a pic thanks@@kimisdaman
Hello from MA!
I enjoy your videos. Glad to see you back doing firearm related content.
Nice review and for guys like us in restricted states this is absolutely still a viable CCW.
One thing…as far as I know, Sig is still making these, but only 3 versions.
Keep up the great work!
Yes I think just a few versions at the moment, thanks for your support!
I have a p938 I got back in 2012. Had to get it through ppt (California, and I missed the deadline on the single shot exemption shops that were doing that for customers ) I’ve easily put 3000 rounds through it now. Two things I ran into 1. The guide rod tried to unscrew itself (fixed with a lil blue loctite, never happened again.) and 2. The pesky issue with chambering one from a full mag then releasing the mag, that next round creeps forward, won’t affect it running, but if it’s not oiled, the top round will fall out..not a big deal, but it bugs me. Otherwise it’s amazing. Only next best option would be the p365 ( and I can’t get one/won’t pay the off roster inflation of 1500.00)
Yes the guide rod is two pieces so lock tite and done. The round falling out happens with all of them and yes it’s a little annoying. Other than that fantastic little carry
Love my P938 Equinox; I carry it EVERYWHERE.
Edit: I thought Sig still made the Legion in P938?
Like you’re video, I’ve had mine for about 7 years. Easy to carry! Watching this video, I just learned that I can use those kimber extended mags… I’m gonna try to pickup a couple of them… just in case. Hopefully the kimber price is less than the Sig price!? Thanks for posting 👍🏿
The kimber mags are $27 on eBay and they are genuine kimber mags in kimber packaging.
My cliche' is "It get's me to a bigger gun". I agree with all your talking points. My main reason that keep coming back to this gun is small size. I've not found anything that can be as small but still have that comfortable 9/11 feel. I carry in my pocket. It sits in a very flat profile. My #2 reason I like it is safety. I can carry it condition 3 hammer down and feel safe with SAO. I also use the liberty self defense 9mm 2000 fps frangible ammo with less recoil. Won't over penetrate.
I love that I can chamber and unload with safety on
love my 938 sas
Where did you see they aren't making it anymore? All info I can find shows they still make it.
Not this exact model nor my equinox
Been carrying my 938 for years no problem and is one of my best carry guns
It really is, I’ll be keeping my eye out at the local shops I am after the legion next.
Just picked up a brand new 938 legion. Guess it was one of the last ones on the shelf
Good score
Had the combat model 938 but regretted selling it some years ago. Just found another one in my lgs lightly used for $300, snatched it right up!
You didn’t snatch it up you stole it for that price!!!
I hope it is still worth it. I just ordered a P938 Legion, due to ship 2/16. I've admired these for a couple years and finally decided to go for it.
I walked into my local shop Friday and they had a legion in the case but I held back lol, I’m going to try the kimber micro rapide next it’s the same platform as sig. stay tuned
@@yankeecowboy Kimbers are pretty but over priced, I think.
@@brianpendergrass5459 I agree but I still want it lol, I had a raptor but sold it.
@@yankeecowboy But, I've heard it said the P938 Legion is over priced. Didn't stop me so I get it.
@@brianpendergrass5459 no it’s fair priced for the quality for sure. I’ll probably pick one up as well
As of today Sig is still building & selling the P938 .
Yes the legion and one other version I believe
@@yankeecowboyFix it
I said certain models I'm not fixing anything
@@11binfantryfollowmeus.army95
I have a 938, The one with the rubber grips as the wooden grips make the gun a little too hard to control in firing. The rubber grips are great for keeping a stable hold. I have had to replace the guide rod and then the slide as the small ledge that bears against the recoil spring at the front of the slide broke off rendering the gun unusable, I love the size. IMO and I do mean opinion the Springfield EMP is a better carry option due to more gripping surface and it holds 9 +1 rounds. Mine has been very reliable and accurate. It is only about 1/2 inch longer in the slide and about 3/4 longer in the grip. It is heavier due to the bull barrel but is also less "snappy".
Interesting,I'll have to check one out I've never seen one
I love this pistol. I shoot small groupings on target with it. Much more than I can say for my other micro pistols. It just shoots well and the trigger action is excellent.
I totally agree
I have the Kimber. I have not had one malfunction. I like it for the summer due to its small size. The rest of the year my off duty is my Glock 26.
That’s an interesting sas version, I’ve never seen one with sight on it they always have the mepro sights.
Idk this is how this came
I love my p938 I got some pro mag 10 round mags for training they have a few inch extra grip . Amazing shooter have about 1000 Randy’s so far . Would love to see a updated version with a pic rail .
Perfect for EDC. I’ll probably get a leather shoulder for it from Andrews Custom Leather Holster when I find a SAS from a good shop. Thanks for the tip!
His holsters are amazing it’s all I really use.
I love my Sig 938 SAS, Thanks for the review.
right on!
Wonderful review and just what I was looking for! Thank you!
This was the new version of the Colt Mustang Pocketlite.
Pretty much
Yank, agree 1000%!...have exact same 938 and love it dearly although I just recently picked up the Kimber micro 9 Rapide Black Ice...no range time on it yet so cant evaluate just praying it's not one as you mentioned with issues...my edc is my 365 w/17 rd mag...love this pistol.. stay well my friend!.. 👍💥🇺🇸💥
It’s funny because I really want the kimber rapide myself lol, please let me know your experience with it one you get it to the range. Stay safe as well my friend!
@@yankeecowboy after I get the Kimber out I may make you an offer......🤣....btw, I'm kinda considering Sigs 365 Macro...have you checked it out yet?...and no, no fan boy..🤣.. .love my S&Ws, FN's, Glocks & Magnum Research all equally...🤣😂🤣...dig your channel..👍
@@devilsden2283 thanks my friend and yes keep me in mind if you want to get rid of it lol. Thank you for the support!
Where did you obtain the skeletonized trigger? Thanks.
beautiful and well made
Great clip,
I am with you, on the Springfield 911 gone before I had the chance to at least try it. This a nice firearm.
Be well
Thank you for stopping by the channel!
Thanks! Good information!
Thanks for watching!
7+1 in a micro chambered in 9mm is more than adequate.
This video is 100% INCORRECT. SIG does still make the P938 as of July 2024. The only thing they did was discontinue some models of P938.
if you actually watched and listened to what I said that certain models are no longer made like the equinox I have and the sas. the only model still made is the legion. appreciate the comment but don;t bash here please without the facts
@@yankeecowboy
1:00 you said “Sig Sauer does not make these anymore.”
You right after said that they made a lot of variations and you own two of them. You never said that it was only those two discontinued or that only some was discontinued.
@@dillonh321 I was speaking on models that I’ve owned and own. Only the legion is still currently being made.
@@yankeecowboy
1:25 “The only one that still makes one is Kimber.” Again the way you are saying this makes it sound like you are saying Sig no longer makes it.
@@dillonh321 ok so I don’t understand what your issue is with me, did I make a mistake perhaps yes I’m not perfect but you obviously are so you can make a video on it
I think the ez9 is a viable candidate. Same battery of arms.
You sure Sig discontinued all of them? Because I'm seeing the SAS and Legion versions in stock on some websites.
No not all but allot of past version are no longer in production.
I'd love one of these! Good video!
thank you!
I recently bought a P938 SAS. Out of the box the gun was perfect as I have smaller hands took it to the range to shoot it fourth round misfeed fix the misfeed finish the magazine put the second magazine in third or fourth round misfeed fix the misfeed finished the magazine, put the next magazine in third or fourth round misfeed And this continued with every magazine. I called Sigg and sent it back to them to fix
Before you send it back I have to ask two things 1. Have you tried another magazine 2. Are you limp wristing it? If you tried changing mag then I’d send it back they will get it right. I owned four of these in different variations and never a issue
I was told to try a Kimber micro 9. It wiggled in the mag well and would not lock into place - I do not limp wrist anything - small hands big heart (lol)
@@heywoodjablome7834 I have small hands and I run sig,kimber and the Springfield mags with no issues in my sas and my equinox
Here’s another thought. It may well be the ammo you’re using. Mine had all kinds of problems with FTE or FTF with Armscor 115gr. Zero problems with Fiocci and others. Try something different and see.
absolutely beautiful edc! i’m in the market of getting one. where can i find the skeletonized trigger? it seems to be discounted on my end along with the sas variant.
wengineeringusa.com/shop/p938/sig-p938238-skeletonized-stainless-trigger/
Good luck and the only versions they still make are the legion and the sas but it’s different than mine
What is the name of that Kimber magazine that fits this gun?
I own a P938 and I'm not sure why? Operator error I suspect. When I pull the trigger since it hinges at the top, my finger seems to slide down and the recoil from the shot pinches my finger between the trigger and the trigger guard. Strange but true. I've not shot many rounds through the P938. Mine is a Tan one with their Laser sight. So, instead, I've been carrying a Canik 9mm which is a large frame.
I have the same problem with the Trigger Pinch...
I just try to ride my trigger finger as high as I can on the trigger...
P938 is still the best 9mm that I have ever fired!!!
I would put the Smith & Wesson CSX in this category as well...
Yes it’s definitely in this group
I just bought a P-938 Legion, I wonder if they are making them , or it is “ new, old stock”I a Vedder Rapid Tuck ISW holster , its like you say, disappears
The legion is still being made but look on your box it came in it’s usually printed right on it
Sig still makes the P938 in a Legion model.
Yes
I "bit the bullet" and got the Legion version of this, after 2 shooting sessions, zero issues so far. I'm thinking about getting a couple more mags but I was thinking about the non-Legion ones, with the longer baseplate that matches the grip, instead of stopping a 1/2" short in back. Do you think they will fit?
Yes they should fit I also run the kimber mags but check with your local shop and ask to try a mag and see if it fits correct that's what I did before I purchased the kimber mags. Oh I also run springfield 911 mags fit as well
My P938 runs well but the trigger is horrendous. Hard to shoot well because the trigger pull is too heavy and is not consistent from shot to shot. If you are coming from a real 1911, you will hate the trigger. Impossible to accurately double-tap shots.
My sas has a different trigger in it and with some easy clean up you can have a very crisp trigger but you are right from a real 1911 no comparison
Thanks... helpful!
Your welcome!
Awesome review....what do you think about the z365? Expensive @$1,100
You mean the p365? If so yes that’s very high price
@yankeecowboy it's the new Z365 octane...check it out on CZcams or Google 🙂
@@benperea8483 personally I’d have side work done from fdez works and buy a ikarus grip. Zev is nice but over priced.
Great video..where did you get that trigger? I like that ..👊🇺🇸
Here is the site.
wengineeringusa.com/shop/p938/sig-p938238-skeletonized-stainless-trigger/
This has been my edc since 2018. The only way this gun could be better is a DA/SA
I totally agree and with a decocker
As of March 2024 the P938 is still being made.
I understand that,I meant certain variations are not made anymore
That was the 2nd gun I purchased after I got my p320. As with many of my guns . . . I should have kept it.
@Corey Newton I have bought and sold and rebought and resold so many guns that it's stupid. I just like changing things up and sometimes I find out that I shouldn't have sold something.
@Corey Newton Yes, the only gun I ever sold because I really disliked it was the Springfield Armory XD. It was awful! Pinched my hand constantly. I actually had to stop shooting at the range to bandage my hand up because the blood was making it slippery. I absolutely couldn't shoot it accurately at all. The p938 was a nice little gun but it was a very little gun so expect the kick.
What company was that IWB holster?
The 365 was the death of the 938 . Own both prefer the 938
I just purchased the P938 we the people
Nice! Enjoy it
Nice looking gun! So, basically I can’t get this particular model anywhere???
you can find them used
I am looking, I purchased a csx
If you can find a p938 used it will be roughly the same price so I’d go with the sig all day over the csx I’m not hating on it just I’ve shot both and had the 938 for a long time and it’s a accurate pistol to conceal carry
Shot a P238 briefly at the range and enjoyed it even though it felt small in my hands. They need to make newer versions with increased capacity. Where did you hear these were discontinued? Sig doesn't say that on their website, nor have I heard that from anyone else.
They have been out of production for a while.
@@yankeecowboy the SAS model has been out of production, yes, but not the entire P938/P238 line. In the video it seemed as though you were talking about the P938 in general in that respect. Perhaps I misunderstood your commentary.
@@rosemarsili9159 no the models I have, I believe they only make a new version of sas and the legion only now.
@@yankeecowboy OK. That makes sense. Thanks.
how does a s&w crx compare
The s&w crx feels like a toy compared to it and not too much lighter to make a difference.
For anyone willing to sell their 938 in CA los angeles area im willing to buy !
What trigger is that mine has the same one but can't find any info on it is it the w engineering usa
I believe so
Im pretty sure Sig is still making the P938...
yes certain variations
"If you didn't like it hit the Dislike twice..."
Well played.
lol only the sharp ones get it
I only carry 6 rounds
I shoot/carry a variety of single-stack pistols (and occasionally a revolver)...
I shoot six rounds in each, so that I KNOW how many our available in whichever weapon I go into combat with...
I know that sounds silly, but it works for me...
Still in production. My shop has 5 legions. I’m in nh. Wake up
Hit the dislike twice - I see what you did there. Nicely done.
lol it’s all in the details
Nice informative video...I had my eye on a 938 because sig makes a great firearm...but decided to go w/ Kimber evo rapter...I'm a not a plastic gun guy & both sig & kimber make quality handguns.
thank you
love the audio and vid quality... awesome.
Thank you I use very good gear and try to put out the best I can.
Hit the dislike twice Lols! Clever ! Good video though man thx! :)
Thank you lol
great vid.
Thank you
ten round state...... easy, LEAVE LOL