Flats Reacts to Asmongold's "is this a joke, blizzard?"

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  • čas přidán 25. 05. 2023
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Komentáře • 728

  • @GabrielxDesign
    @GabrielxDesign Před rokem +861

    Well, since I dislike Blizzard so much now, 1 hour of rant against them is great to me.

    • @manticoredog2501
      @manticoredog2501 Před rokem +37

      High five bro ✋
      Ever since the harassment cases, I just loathe that company

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +12

      ​@@manticoredog2501 the Cosby suite was my breaking point. Like, there's being a skeezball and then there's literally almost creating a crime syndicate by accident lmfao

    • @silversilence976
      @silversilence976 Před rokem +5

      no more shop purchases for me. been playing since ow1 season 1, sad to see it go so downhill.

    • @starhaven1881
      @starhaven1881 Před rokem +1

      a double Rant even.

    • @jebalitabb8228
      @jebalitabb8228 Před rokem

      @@manticoredog2501why does that matter tho, it doesn’t effect us. Them making bad games does, that’s only when it really matters

  • @alternativefactory7190
    @alternativefactory7190 Před rokem +648

    Guys, it's our fault. We didn't pay for the 45 dollar sigma skin that was funding PvE.

    • @thecupofbrew7955
      @thecupofbrew7955 Před rokem +6

      What are you talking about?

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +74

      Damn it. I knew I should have bought a skin for a hero I haven’t touched in a year

    • @tuff7915
      @tuff7915 Před rokem +52

      The problem is to much players bought the skins. They saw they can make way more money with this model than putting ressources in pve...

    • @TheNatos
      @TheNatos Před rokem

      @@tuff7915 100%. and it will continue until consumers actually start demanding better and stop throwing money at shithead companies like blizz.
      and frankly with people getting dumber and dumber every year... It's only gonna get worse lol

    • @Idle_Timer
      @Idle_Timer Před rokem +12

      Is PvE the name of Bobby's newest yacht?

  • @yacooss2058
    @yacooss2058 Před rokem +527

    I paused at 11:52 and realized. We've reached a point in society where we can spend time watching a video of a dude reacting to a guy who is reacting to a video that has him reacting to someone revealing something that 4 years later ended up triggering the first dudes reaction video.

    • @drateryako
      @drateryako Před rokem +46

      peak content, baby😎

    • @tami3456
      @tami3456 Před rokem +7

      Like you haven't seen reaction videos before...

    • @RemedieX
      @RemedieX Před rokem +7

      Just wait till you discover meta films.

    • @VideoGamesRus100
      @VideoGamesRus100 Před rokem +20

      Oh man you missed the asmon reacting to reactions of him reacting arc during the beginning of covid

    • @MrPepper0ni
      @MrPepper0ni Před rokem +4

      holy shit hes right

  • @Ro-fw3lc
    @Ro-fw3lc Před rokem +311

    "Flats playing push on the toilet"
    Jeez,his chat is something else..

    • @chigaoted5043
      @chigaoted5043 Před rokem +23

      Man you don't know the half of it; I'm a new watcher but I've caught a few streams and they have a whole copypasta they spam in the chat when he takes a break

    • @Ro-fw3lc
      @Ro-fw3lc Před rokem +8

      @@chigaoted5043 don't think I want to know the rest anymore,that's disturbing

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +12

      ​@@Ro-fw3lc ask about Asmon's blood wall. I love how deep his lore is

    • @incoherentreviews9516
      @incoherentreviews9516 Před rokem

      ​@@Ro-fw3lc You're definitely a thin-skinned zoomer. Grow up.

    • @x0gucx
      @x0gucx Před rokem +8

      Idk why but it's only when asmon is involved the whole chat turns into a bunch of degenerates. Any other streamer with a bunch of angels in chat as soon as asmon comes on "bald, bald, BALDY" " boring" "this is bull s*it" "speaking of s*it, how's your mom"

  • @Starrky923
    @Starrky923 Před rokem +125

    I love this part 29:30 It basically comes down to: "we can either deliver on what we promised or scam people, so..... we decided to scam people"

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw Před rokem +10

      The difference between No Man Sky devs vs Blizzard.

    • @masonmontgomery5025
      @masonmontgomery5025 Před rokem

      @@justjuniorjaw REAL

    • @zombievikinggaming4258
      @zombievikinggaming4258 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@justjuniorjawNo Man's Sky really turned shit around and stuck with it to deliver what they first promised

  • @BRUIN1821
    @BRUIN1821 Před rokem +278

    Worst part is them waiting so long to tell anybody about it bring canceled means no matter how much backlash & lost sales they face they can’t go back on the decision because them waiting puts it even further behind schedule. Most tone deaf thing they could have possibly done

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +11

      The fact that this means we will never have hero missions actually made me question being a gamer altogether for a moment but then I got pushed into finding other studios who are actually more in touch with their capabilities. Not everyone is greedy, or trying to push out a minimum viable product. Evercore, Starship troopers, Helldivers, Omega Strikers… even Pkmn Unite or Fortnite have been refreshing communities lol branch out, there’s hope. You’ll find a new “home game”

    • @1stNumberOne
      @1stNumberOne Před rokem +2

      Do you think your fav content creators didn’t know

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 Před rokem +2

      ​@@1stNumberOne they don't know

    • @1stNumberOne
      @1stNumberOne Před rokem +3

      @@CBRN-115 they did I can guarantee they couldn’t talk about it but they knew. I literally KNOW they knew..

    • @ganangfakhriansyah4552
      @ganangfakhriansyah4552 Před rokem +8

      ​@@1stNumberOne source?

  • @myco2408
    @myco2408 Před rokem +172

    blizard: comes into your house to kick your dog
    blizard: “DID YOU ALL LIKE THAT?”

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +18

      “Sombra rework in a few months btw” (door slamming behind them)

    • @kguytheguy928
      @kguytheguy928 Před rokem +3

      *_no_*

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify Před rokem +14

      Blizzard didn't just kick my dog, they burned my house down, stole my car and then told me i'd have to pay to access a battle pass to get my car back piece by piece.

    • @puppergump4117
      @puppergump4117 Před rokem

      IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND FORTNITE BATTLEPASS YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND TRUE PVE

  • @spacecowboy7193
    @spacecowboy7193 Před rokem +83

    I think Overwatch players underestimate how many creators in gaming were stoked for the PvE. People who don’t really PvP or have a different regular try hard game like the OW world and were so excited for the PvE. Everyone would have reviewed it everywhere and it could have been HUGE. No one will come back for drip fed one off missions.

    • @Minisynapse
      @Minisynapse Před rokem +10

      The potential was HUGE

    • @jacksonville9642
      @jacksonville9642 Před rokem +5

      They could've built a really amazing IP with that, and would've cleansed their name from their past mistakes in a single blow, so they obvioyhqd to fumble it

    • @scottjohnson1060
      @scottjohnson1060 Před rokem +1

      Problem was as hype as everyone was, the overall beta they did got heavily criticized so they tried to listen to players and change it which overloaded them into not doing it, why in beta you see like 5 skill changes and in dev talk they say their would have been 50 and improving gear drops for each hero etc..

    • @scottjohnson1060
      @scottjohnson1060 Před rokem +2

      But yea they should have outsourced it to someone with more pve skill instead of trying to do it themselves and ignoring pvp but then we wouldn't have diablo immortal or latest wow campaigns I guess

    • @jacksonville9642
      @jacksonville9642 Před rokem +4

      @@scottjohnson1060 factually wrong, they didn't get "overloaded" trying to listen to players and it wasn't supposed to be only 5 skills until players complained they were too little, they showed from the start what they wanted the skill tree to look like and stopped working on it because someone thought they would make more revenue by just selling skins and adding some random hero each 2 seasons

  • @yoonglebellz
    @yoonglebellz Před rokem +36

    I was in the game when OW1 was shut down, at this point I'm ready to pretend that was the end and leave it there 😭 the whole lobby was just dancing on the point is Oasis Gardens and saying RIP

  • @Raykon333
    @Raykon333 Před rokem +35

    32:38 - the main problem with Wrath of the Bride was that it was really fun, but only for a game or two, and I think it's very indicative of how story missions will feel like.

  • @ayeitsdesy5770
    @ayeitsdesy5770 Před rokem +9

    "tiktok guy Philip defranco" flats drfranco is one of the og youtuber LOL, had me cackle😭

  • @TheGabberManiac
    @TheGabberManiac Před rokem +51

    Let's say you order a eggs benedict at a restaurant but the waiter comes back with just a hard boiled egg. That is basically the situation we're dealing with OW2.

    • @rvspbxri1342
      @rvspbxri1342 Před rokem +7

      No bruh not even it's a Burnt boiled egg and since that was there last egg the waiter will say they ran out of eggs but still charge you for the fact that you ordered it😂

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Před rokem +9

      @@rvspbxri1342 its not even a burnt egg, its a picture of an egg the waiter cut out of a magazine.

    • @unfortunatedisgrace246
      @unfortunatedisgrace246 Před rokem +1

      wait they cooked it for you?

    • @rvspbxri1342
      @rvspbxri1342 Před rokem

      @@Shiirow lmfao even better and they said they will have cancled making eggs

    • @jello7380
      @jello7380 Před 9 měsíci

      More like you order an eggs benedict and they tell you, if you wait 30 minutes they’ll have fresh eggs and free bacon on the side, you end up waiting an hour at which the 30 minute mark they ask if you want to pay 20 bucks for a different tablecloth and when you actually get your food it’s a rotten hard boiled egg with no bacon.

  • @zalantra4753
    @zalantra4753 Před rokem +16

    "Was Push the game mode you were playing on the toilet earlier?" made me laugh harder than I would like to admit.

  • @pingufan1239
    @pingufan1239 Před rokem +41

    Forget about dad leaving with the milk
    It’s now PVE leaving with the watch point pack money

    • @ThatPig8
      @ThatPig8 Před rokem +2

      Wonder if a lawsuit could be filled for false advertising
      Probably if you could prove they were canceling it back when it came out

    • @Reddzion
      @Reddzion Před rokem +2

      the cardboard skin is being brought by many too as if people have forgetten the lies already) Flats too which is confusing,

    • @pingufan1239
      @pingufan1239 Před rokem +3

      @@Reddzion well you can still buy the skin? Even though PVE is canceled you can still buy skins and enjoy them. The watch point pack is an entirely different case compared to the card board skin for example

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      @@Reddzion the vast majority of the playerbase just plays the game. They don’t watch CZcams videos, catch the Blizz news, etc. they’re kids, they’re overworked adults relaxing, they’re unaware and populating the queues, you even logged in to see them lol part of the problem while complaining about others just enjoying the game for what it is

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      @@pingufan1239 it actually isn’t a different case at all. We bought the watchpoint pack for cosmetics, it had nothing to do with pve directly. We were just under the impression that everything we have will be usable in pve, which is still is, we just won’t have hero missions. Which is scummy, but, legal af hahahah. The story missions are the minimum they could get away with, so they are

  • @Idle_Timer
    @Idle_Timer Před rokem +98

    Was pooring a drink and heard asmon say, yeah lets hear it jeff, and my heart got sad. Hope he finds a studio that appreciates his work and ideas, and all the others who left over this. We know the devs worked their ass off to make our dreams a reality. F you actiblizz, youve officially beat the soul out of all the blizzard ips.

    • @miltortmanapaste6302
      @miltortmanapaste6302 Před rokem +2

      They really have. My only hope is that Microsoft forces them to shape up, but I don't have much hope

    • @bloocheez3
      @bloocheez3 Před rokem +10

      @@miltortmanapaste6302 Microsoft let Halo languish and rot for a decade, they have no idea what they're doing either.

  • @elliottaddison8116
    @elliottaddison8116 Před rokem +81

    3:35 may be the most ive ever resonated with a Flats take as someone who was born in 95

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +5

      My bday is 6/9/91 so I feel like everyone's daddy I mean daddy I mean daddy I me

    • @Xathion
      @Xathion Před rokem +5

      As someone born in '96 I feel this.

    • @user-cu5mj5eq5e
      @user-cu5mj5eq5e Před rokem +2

      Absolutely relatable. Same feelings, when i watched this moment.

    • @rezq9109
      @rezq9109 Před rokem +2

      '96 kid here
      we are too young to be millennial and too old to be gen z

    • @elliottaddison8116
      @elliottaddison8116 Před rokem

      Rise up Gen Windows 95

  • @AndragonLea
    @AndragonLea Před rokem +61

    Asmon looks genuinely excited in that trailer reveal reaction. Like, actually genuinely hyped.
    Thinking back, I think just about everyone I knew in gaming was excited, actually.
    To imagine that we now live in a timeline where a company could get such a massive wave of genuine, optimistic support and anticipation and decide to unzip and unload a massive dump all over it at a time when they so desperately need a PR win is... I'm bereft of words.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +5

      Mike, when I saw the OG cinematic coupled with the pve proof of concept I was weeping. Watched it on loop for weeks, theory crafting builds and whatnot. It is literally all I want in gaming, but that amount of depth and polish is rare. Especially coupled with the variety of events and pvp to mix it up. I think Granblue Fantasy Relink will be my next home game, since that’s at least pretty close 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @AndragonLea
      @AndragonLea Před rokem +2

      @@nailinthefashion Yeah, same here. It sounded absolutely amazing. Everything I wanted in one of the best game universes I've seen in a long time.
      I knew the writing was on the wall when PvE wasn't in the Overwatch 2 release, but part of me was still hoping.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      @@AndragonLea I figured covid would set anyone back, let alone a million dollar project, but boy was I right in the worst way possible lmao

    • @Minisynapse
      @Minisynapse Před rokem +2

      They tossed a goldmine in seeking short term gains

    • @AndragonLea
      @AndragonLea Před rokem +1

      ​@@nailinthefashion Yeah, but Blizzard is a billion dollar company and Overwatch made MAD cash even years after release and during the content drought, so while I expected Covid to slow development, I also expected Blizzard to hire as necessary to meet their promises because they clearly couldn't claim poverty preventing them from doing that.
      Just the box sales alone - they had 50 million box sales as of April 2022 and the game was sold for 30 bucks without discounts. That's 1.5 bil in revenue just from the box sales, no skin sales.
      They didn't publish the numbers for all of their skin sales, but the charity ones they had to publicize - Pink Mercy made them 12.7 mil in two weeks.
      Even if we assumed that most of the leggy skins sold for less (and that's debatable, some of them were much better than Pink Mercy in my opinion) and lootbox sales were low because the game was generous, they must've still made out like bandits.
      I want to give them slack but the only reason I see for them to cancel the PvE is because they decided Overwatch 2 was selling as many battlepasses as it would with the PvP and didn't want to spend the money to make PvE reality if they didn't have to and couldn't use it as an excuse to monetize it more than the game already is.
      This is corporate's attempt to weasel out of putting their money where their mouth was in my eyes.

  • @brandonray4493
    @brandonray4493 Před rokem +17

    Highly replayable to barely playable.
    Bliz: The fans won't notice.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      The fact that that was literally their train of thought and going for freaking high scores would be enough LMAO overwatch 1 archives all over again

  • @brendanruggles4575
    @brendanruggles4575 Před rokem +28

    It was not unreasonable to be upset about getting rid of loot boxes for a battle pass and 20$ for a skin. Loot boxes are not ideal, but they are a hell of a lot better than the system they have now. At least with loot boxes you could unlock content by playing the game. Now you have to spend a ridiculous amount of money to have any type of customization. 60$ vs 100s of $ within its life span. They know what they’re doing.

    • @plague8163
      @plague8163 Před 5 měsíci +1

      If the battlepass wasn't so predatory and didn't lock skins and earned credits behind premiums i wouldn't actually mind the change, but lootboxes were better all around.

    • @brendanruggles4575
      @brendanruggles4575 Před 5 měsíci

      @@plague8163 fr

  • @Stylus02
    @Stylus02 Před rokem +10

    I like how we started with a room full of cool shit, we were promised a bigger room with cooler shit, and now we don't even have a room, just an empty box

  • @zachemorgan
    @zachemorgan Před rokem +122

    you can tell by arrons face he couldn't even say it without losing there was a reason that guy did it and not arron. seriously though how many years till they make overwatch classic.

    • @madara992
      @madara992 Před rokem +26

      praying for overwatch 3 and doomfist becomes a support

    • @Droben
      @Droben Před rokem +15

      @@vopcracker3193 cope

    • @KaboomGeneral
      @KaboomGeneral Před rokem +13

      ​@@vopcracker3193 Yeah he really showed that "I already knew"-face when he watched the reveal...and when he talked with the boys about it...
      you should do a little bit less of that stuff there. Yo brain aint working straight anymore

    • @infer2311
      @infer2311 Před rokem

      @@vopcracker3193 loser

    • @wizardpirate
      @wizardpirate Před rokem +2

      @@vopcracker3193 help me i think theyre after me please help me

  • @plain-bagel
    @plain-bagel Před rokem +30

    Aaron looks so uncomfortable the whole video, but his face when Jared makes the announcement is just so defeated

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Před rokem +9

    "I thought it was just gonna be a new mode!"
    He's a prophet.

  • @Brendanj101
    @Brendanj101 Před rokem +16

    My issue wasn't going from lootboxes to battlepass in OW2, my problem was including the new hero in it locking out others, not have the "buy once" battlepass that pays for the next one and lastly rewarding F2P players WAY less than they used to when it came to lootboxes.

  • @davidandrew3304
    @davidandrew3304 Před rokem +13

    A full fledged story mode with the lore and characters would’ve been so cool

  • @drexlyn8206
    @drexlyn8206 Před rokem +3

    My wife was recently watching Doug Doug play through Stanley Parable Ultra Deluxe with his brother. Doug Doug's brother, Davey, was the creator of Stanley Parable. They were making jokes and asking each other questions about the game while Doug Doug played. Doug Doug gets to the "New Content" section and Davey asks "What do you think the new content is gonna be?". Doug Doug says "Overwatch 2"...and that hits soo different/hard now!

  • @ninja666gaming
    @ninja666gaming Před rokem +7

    they brought over the candy crush team to make mischeif and magic.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +2

      Dude, I thought about that as a joke, but if they made a match 3 game mode with crystals on Blizzardworld I wouldn’t be surprised anymore hahahahaha. Horrifically tone deaf

  • @baddabing4494
    @baddabing4494 Před rokem +59

    Pay very close attention to the wording used in the official Blizzard statement about the PvE.
    Their language is so ambiguous, cold, yet it's intentions are specifically targeted to the sympathy of the playerbase.
    Then they compensate by making vague promises and points about the current game, and statements that are technically true to misdirect players into believing the game is bigger than it is.
    I'm not convinced this was anything other than higher-ups straight up making a plan to make a fake game to lure players into financially supporting a "new" game that is exactly the same as the first.
    It makes too much business sense to do that, for it to not be at least somewhat true. Clearly, live service PvP is the current trend. Blizzard will definitely focus on supporting that kind of model. So, if your product representative of that model is beginning to slow down or lag behind, why commit resources to a new risk when you can create the illusion of a new product that happens to just be exactly the same as the first.
    The point of OW2 wasn't to release a new project that innovates on the formula and fixes its issues, the point of it was to simply keep the brand alive; not improve it, but keep it alive.
    Furthermore, in many nations lootboxes became illegal, therefore they are a far less lucrative platform for revenue. How can you retain or increase that revenue without committing extra resources to it? Change the model to fit the current trend. How can you get players to be at least as invested in a product as the previous one, with no commitment to deeper development, AND a steeper microtransaction platform? Make them believe the new product will offer something unique.
    And, how can you ease that newly lured playerbase into becoming fully invested in the new product? Release the basis of the two products that are identical early "just because," or better yet increase the interest in the false lead by saying "we're taking longer to work on the new product so we will release the same product sooner."
    Then once you have them, allow them to believe the new product is still on the way for long enough so that a consistent and steady revenue stream can begin with the new micro-transaction platform. Then, once you have that and are passed the point of a greater potential financial loss, cut the new product and claim it was too big, too complex; I.e.: "too groundbreaking" to be sustained by the team in order to release.
    By that time, you have:
    - Taken no new risks
    - retained a satisfactory percentage of the previous player base
    - Avoided loss of potential markets for the previous financial in-game platform
    - Established a new financial in-game platform that actually increases the potential profits and in more markets than potentially before
    - Avoided committing resources to a product which wouldn't have been able to produce a revenue stream immediately to support itself, or profit as soon and as well as the already existing product
    - By the time you announce the new product's failure to launch, you'll have established a revenue stream sufficient enough to profit
    It's fucking sadistic, toxic, theoretically should be illegal, but it's genius. Bobby Kotick exploits his consumers in very carefully thought out precise attacks.
    In reality I can only believe there are two scenarios:
    - Bobby Kotick intended to allow the Overwatch team to innovate and develop something new and interesting that had a high potential for revenue, only at a delay and coat of resources.
    Or
    - Bobby Kotick played a long strategy to exploit a player base he knows somewhat trusts the dev team, who are used to one type of gameplay and would be invested in the idea of a different kind of it, then exploited them to trick them into investing in the same product twice under the guise of a project that "was too big to continue" even though it was in development for several years.
    What's honestly more believable? Lying to impressionable players to get them invested in a new platform that follows new market trends, through lying about a ghost project? Or investing time and resources into a project that could've innovated on a currently existing project but with much lower potential revenue over time.
    This is from the same company that fostered sexual harassment, Assault, theft of personal objects, all under the acceptance of a CEO who managed all the games of the company.
    Look at how the other brands and products of Blizzard have been treated during the leadership of Bobby Kotick. Diablo Immortal, WoW, Diablo 4 even.
    Ocham's Razor: The solution to a problem that requires the least amount of assumptions is more often the most likely answer.
    I guarantee you, Bobby is carefully monitoring the player base reaction to this news, not because he's simply the one responsible for the success of all of these products but because he's testing the tolerance of the consumers. The minute there's an accelerating trend of revenue decreasing or player counts decreasing, he's pulling the plug on the game AND the dev team. It keeps happening at big companies like this, and it will continue until it no longer results in future successes.

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před rokem +7

      Longest comment ever

    • @daridon2483
      @daridon2483 Před rokem +6

      Which means this will be over soon, last game people still have some hope on is diablo 4. If bobby manipulates that game to drain your cash as quick as possible, people will lose all the little trust left on blizzard and will forever be the scam company, so activision can just send it to the graveyard as it cannot be squeezed for money anymore

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy Před rokem

      well, let's hope then that OW2 dies soon, because I honestly couldn't care less anymore, luckily I didn't spend any money on it.

    • @Xx_HD_xX
      @Xx_HD_xX Před rokem +5

      Finally someone who gets it. He not only played the fanbase in investing he also played the people that were generally interested in O2's PvE mode outside of the main fanbase and also those who were under influencers/content creators that were excited & practically promoted from their reaction alone. It was all to boost interest in OW. It's genius but man it's so unethical.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +5

      Imo they capitalized off of not only the our passion but the devs too. I imagine we were all genuine and on the same path until you get just above Jeff. Whoever was making the deadlines and whatnot, that’s the real devil here. I think they were like “you can try to make the mode but if you can’t do it fast enough we’re gonna pull the plug” “nah we’ll get it done”. But then they tried getting just the 6 heroes into working order for the proof of concept and were done, that was by the time they wanted to release Echo, and then did the math and were like well if just 6 took us 6 years and there’s endlessly more… it just became too much so an executive was like, cut your losses and make your bed so we can put the thousands of dollars that are going into millions somewhere else, where it’ll be immediately profitable.

  • @michaeljellicoe9932
    @michaeljellicoe9932 Před rokem +72

    As someone born in 1997 Flats comment of "We are the forgotten generation" hit the truth button soo hard

    • @pewnit
      @pewnit Před rokem +6

      Yeah, but PHILIP DEFRANCO???? Once one of THE biggest names on CZcams???

    • @ScooterDoge
      @ScooterDoge Před rokem +4

      As someone born in 1983 I do not recognize you as being a person

    • @Meowblivion
      @Meowblivion Před rokem +3

      I was born January 1998! How do you think I feel?
      Most folks call me the extra late ZOOMER generation!
      I’m way too old for that and I refuse to claim that!
      I’m not doing Fortnite TikTok floss dances!
      Screw all of that!
      We fooled ourselves into thinking we’re 90s kids!
      What am I supposed to do!!!

    • @fitnessdicinyourmouth1438
      @fitnessdicinyourmouth1438 Před rokem

      @@Meowblivion I’m 98 are we not gen z? I thought I was an early gen z but I’m a millennial?

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi Před rokem +1

      ... They're not, they're just zoomers who are in denial about being zoomers. xD

  • @Quicksymphony
    @Quicksymphony Před rokem +8

    We still haven't discussed the catch 22. The Battle net allowed you to use currency to get overwatch stuff from other games in their system. So it'll affect the store also for complaints on refunds into class action concerns
    It's about to get messy...

  • @DoctorPhilGud
    @DoctorPhilGud Před rokem +31

    Had no idea flats was the same age as me. Much love brother we will get through this without the gen Zers or the millenials

  • @Kittynelson4
    @Kittynelson4 Před rokem +9

    My favorite part is when flats is reacting to Asmongold reacting to old Asman gold reacting to blizcon 2019 Truly a, CZcams moment

  • @Kradd
    @Kradd Před rokem +1

    The "oh, no" at 11:11 got me hearing a ghost "it's a combat Carl"

  • @Lame_Connection
    @Lame_Connection Před rokem +2

    Do you guys remember an Overwatch 2 meme that XQC reacted to where it shows the Overwatch 2 logo and someone says “does that mean Overwatch is back?” And Winston says “Nope” it’s real

  • @noshitsherlock4375
    @noshitsherlock4375 Před rokem +5

    I wouldn't be so upset, if the team didn't have 18 months to say something and spare those who supported the game for the very thing they were originally promised.

  • @JonezBBQ
    @JonezBBQ Před rokem +3

    It’s so obvious that they never intended for a PVE mode to begin with. Just used it as a means to transition to the f2p model to make more money, while putting in bare bones amounts of effort.

  • @lawnmowergirl
    @lawnmowergirl Před 5 měsíci +1

    Notice how the deva are in still frame when they start asking questions. Blizzard said hold on a smile keyframe

  • @karite2
    @karite2 Před rokem +28

    I played about 80 hours of OW1, came back for OW2 cause they promised to add what I wanted in OW. I spent money on OW2, I bought the BPs and some skins, I put in another 100 hours. Now I've uninstalled the game. I've been with Blizzard since I was a kid watching my dad play Warcraft. I got into WoW when I was 14. 16 years later I'm looking at Blizzard and only really seeing current retail WoW and hopefully D4 as having anything to offer me, and that's it. I played Hearthstone, now it's dead for me due to the over saturated card types. I played HotS, until they abandoned it. I never had much interest in SC, but looks like Blizzard hasn't either. D3 was a mess for most of its lifespan. And WoW, my one main reason to stay with them, had a good xpac in 2016, and the one now is decent too. That aside, what else is Blizzard doing outside of SA lawsuits???

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      D4 is gonna be a mess too but it might be fun despite all this

    • @MidnightRah
      @MidnightRah Před rokem +1

      Please don’t minix it cause I’m like half way in half way out.

    • @mezma4886
      @mezma4886 Před rokem +2

      ​@Robert Harris you still have faith in blizzard after ALL this?

  • @OmniVenom
    @OmniVenom Před rokem +4

    Blizzard went to Lizzard from all the L's they been taking. You can also say what they done was slimy.

  • @AndysBackpack
    @AndysBackpack Před rokem +2

    "Youre such a little gen Z boy"
    Flats: I'M TWENTY SEVEN!!
    LMAO

  • @frayziedaisy
    @frayziedaisy Před rokem +5

    seeing that 2019 content is like looking back to a beautiful lost relationship and they just broke up with you..

  • @soupsipper4614
    @soupsipper4614 Před rokem +2

    They were cooking nothing, but still managed to burn it...

  • @undercoverotter4277
    @undercoverotter4277 Před rokem +3

    With the star watch event game blizzard suggests that we have been playing pve x pvp the entire time :o with symmetra turrets, Torbs turret and bob. Do you think hamser mines and bap disk are also pve x pvp in blizzards eyes?

  • @brotatoto
    @brotatoto Před rokem +4

    Blizzard dropped the ball on securing Dota2 when they turned away Icefrog, and they haven't recovered since. They ALMOST had a good thing with OW1, then they proceeded to flush it down the toilet with OWL and now OW2.

  • @miniespeon158
    @miniespeon158 Před rokem +16

    Currently in the ER waiting on a doctor to see me, thanks for helping me pass the time and take my mind off things ❤❤

    • @joshqim3110
      @joshqim3110 Před rokem +5

      You're in the hands of professionals, you'll be okay ❤️ hope you recover quickly!

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +2

      They’re gonna give you that third leg you’ve been begging for 🥂

    • @miniespeon158
      @miniespeon158 Před rokem +1

      @@nailinthefashion bruh what

    • @miniespeon158
      @miniespeon158 Před rokem +1

      @@joshqim3110 i did!! I think i have POTS. Im not sure tho. Or my blood pressure dipped for whatever reason.. but i see my pcp on the 7th!

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      @@miniespeon158 bruh

  • @anthonyohler2029
    @anthonyohler2029 Před rokem +1

    How we truly know he’s an overwatch masochist “this hurts. Let’s keep watching”

  • @SnakeSkinz
    @SnakeSkinz Před rokem +20

    It absolutely was worth watching. Also BUTT LIKE CLOGGERS

  • @AarPlays
    @AarPlays Před rokem +1

    Blizzard doesnt have a foot left to shoot. They're shooting their kneecaps at this point

  • @malachite9071
    @malachite9071 Před 7 dny

    “Nobody left behind” except tank #2

  • @daintyonion
    @daintyonion Před rokem +3

    I cried actual tears watching this

  • @robertsummers3360
    @robertsummers3360 Před rokem

    quite enjoying the reaction videos flats

  • @Waauugh
    @Waauugh Před rokem +1

    Wait, there was a Doomfist bot in Starwatch? I didn't even notice!

  • @syvulpie
    @syvulpie Před rokem +3

    """"Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 2 players can play together""""

  • @Triforcebro
    @Triforcebro Před rokem +18

    Glad its an hour! Now I can farm D2

    • @manticoredog2501
      @manticoredog2501 Před rokem +3

      Oh no. My man is stuck in the grind

    • @daanmeer2876
      @daanmeer2876 Před rokem +1

      crafted nation of beasts be bussin

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      @@manticoredog2501 as long as he’s having fun, it’s fine. I’m even happy for the OW pvp enjoyers.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      As soon as I fix my pc I will be back too. I’m a D1 beta enjoyer but haven’t played 2 much. Shoulda never left. Thorn will be waiting for me though

  • @nailinthefashion
    @nailinthefashion Před rokem +2

    3:50
    Accidental dab on the haters. Pure

  • @SharpShadow777
    @SharpShadow777 Před rokem +2

    Philip Defranco is from youtube

  • @SaintoftheHonest
    @SaintoftheHonest Před rokem +20

    What made Overwatch a colossal success was that it had elements that appealed to EVERYONE. The story and characters got/kept casuals involved, with competitive gameplay. Now the indepth infinitely replayable story mode being gone has fucked the casual players, while the competitive players were fucked repeatedly as the dev team balanced around normies. I miss Goats.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +4

      I miss goats too because it meant the heroes were dynamic enough to even establish a meta. Right now, the only defining meta is if they have cc or Ana you go Kiriko. There’s no seasonal identity since they’re afraid to piss anyone off, but Goodman and Jeff knew something more modern designers don’t: pissing off a few players is FUN. I never played Bastion until goats. Never swapped off Mercy or Moira til then. Everything was shaken up and I finally learned Ana. I hate the idea that they’re trying to make everyone viable. We should have had an even stronger Genji with his mythic release, and then let Queen dumpster him, then Kiriko, and so on. Too scared 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @tropicata
      @tropicata Před rokem +1

      The irony is Overwatch has arguably become the least accessible multiplayer game out there. I would say even more than MOBAs at this point. The sheer amount of heroes, maps, context specific rules and interactions and spammy/oppressive abilities makes the game more punishing than anything else I've ever played. It's exhausting for ME with 2000+ hours clocked, I can't imagine what it's like for newcomers

  • @Scotchietape19
    @Scotchietape19 Před rokem

    Can we please appreciate the ES Oblivion OST in the background lmfao.

  • @nocfox3050
    @nocfox3050 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sometimes I come back to this Video just to see the early aftermath of Overwatch 2 turning into Overwatch *Recalled*

  • @MultiShadow18
    @MultiShadow18 Před rokem +1

    They could have just released like 4 or 5 hero missions like solider, mercy, rein, tracer and Winston as a bonus and been like hero missions is taking longer than expected so were gonna release these 5 and then be like reaper, ball, Ana and genji are expected to be released later this year with more to come as they are finished

  • @thelifeless1
    @thelifeless1 Před rokem +1

    "my career is shorter then how long we've waited for PvE"
    that's fcking painful

  • @OmegaSaurus
    @OmegaSaurus Před rokem +3

    "No one gets lets behind"
    Except new players having to play over 100 matches for a "Complete" roster and unlock new characters one at the time or pay for the recent pass.

  • @luminen4051
    @luminen4051 Před rokem

    This is like worlds colliding for me

  • @worldsaway1002
    @worldsaway1002 Před rokem +1

    Best ending to a video 😂

  • @awesomeguy9513
    @awesomeguy9513 Před rokem +6

    Can we get a push to change overwatch 2 to Overwatch 0.9 or 0.5? They whole point for the sequel is gone and the game has less features from OW1, we lost on fire but somehow the voice lines are still there like wtf why remove it. Also I think we had less maps on launch or currently have less maps either or it’s still not good

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před rokem +1

      I kept wondering why I hear the line but dont see it lol

  • @Rentis2DamHi
    @Rentis2DamHi Před rokem

    That filter on Mr. X - LOL - just born smooth

  • @blank8324
    @blank8324 Před rokem

    I am dead with that “new content” clip 😂 I can’t

  • @x0gucx
    @x0gucx Před rokem +7

    What are people talking about "removing loot boxes was a good thing"
    Everyone who actually played ow 1, including flats, misses the lootboxes. Even playing casually once in a while could get you legendary skins and if not, you had most of the voice lines and sprays with enough money to get something else and that was free. They had the best lootbox system and replaced it with a shop, how is that better?

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před rokem +1

      I cant understand the hate for loot boxes. I loved the idea of free chances to get skins. It didnt matter most times I got nothing. When I got something it made all the wait worth it. Now there is really no benefit to not paying for skins at all which kinda means hardly any reason to play the game

    • @cementarii8458
      @cementarii8458 Před rokem

      I myself cant believe im defending lootboxes, but this new system is so baaaad in comparison, it makes me wish them back.

    • @user-tl1sz5xs7l
      @user-tl1sz5xs7l Před rokem

      What all of you people that praise the lootbox system don't understand is that in no way would you be able to earn free lootboxes while the game is also free2play. If they were to remain in OW2 they would have been available exclusively from the shop and than you wouldn't have liked them that much would you? Thats why if we have to pay to get skins its better with a paid battlepass so you know what you pay for than lootboxes which are random.

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md Před rokem

      @@user-tl1sz5xs7l it wouldnt have mattered if they were only in the shop because essentially that is how it is now. They also wouldnt really be loot boxes

    • @lundinstrom4749
      @lundinstrom4749 Před rokem

      @@user-tl1sz5xs7l did you forget that Apex exists??? its also f2p and you get a loot-tick just about every other level for free (it starts scaling differently later in levels and cuts off after like 500 (which is when you'd get a free guaranteed heirloom)). OW2 very easily could've just done a similar system and made every other BP level have a lootbox for free and not have them in the store so there isn't a way to "purchase them for gambling" since that was the issue and just keep them as a simple, easy, and free, way to give players older skins/credits.

  • @theslx7911
    @theslx7911 Před rokem +1

    When he said Kirito instead of Kiriko, i almost shat myself xD

  • @ShelloSongz
    @ShelloSongz Před rokem

    Flats' wheezing gets me everytime man 😭

  • @MajorSilvaa
    @MajorSilvaa Před rokem

    Idk why Oblivion music is playing but I love it

  • @kwood6013
    @kwood6013 Před rokem +2

    The gaslighting is infuriating. Like we haven’t been through this for 3-4 years already, we read through the corporate PR Bullspeak. Treat us like adults.

  • @thatsovietspy1974
    @thatsovietspy1974 Před rokem

    Blizzard really said “I’ll give you something to cry about.”

  • @ump3368
    @ump3368 Před rokem +1

    Seeing how proud Jeff was when he announced it is heart breaking. Fuck blizzard and what they did to his vison and dreams!

  • @LilOlWaxy
    @LilOlWaxy Před rokem +2

    From now on im referring to the company as Lizard entertainment with extra emphasis on the L

  • @nailinthefashion
    @nailinthefashion Před rokem +5

    26:11
    It isn’t a matter of opinion, Asmon, it is a lie even if by virtue of incompetence. It isn’t miscommunication; they actively chose to hide it as long as they could to profit off of our morale. I’m not saying the devs are responsible, they had their legal bindings. But it was a bait and switch.

  • @gabxp3095
    @gabxp3095 Před rokem +1

    Should have watched Kira’s video “blizzard just rugpulled OW 2”

  • @prestigiouschili7911
    @prestigiouschili7911 Před rokem +3

    3:36 As a person born in 1995, this spoke to me😂. I haven’t been able to put it into words how I don’t feel like a millennial or a Gen Z better than this. Forgotten generation is what I’ll call myself lol.

  • @Nightout88
    @Nightout88 Před rokem +1

    lol "was push the game mode you were playing on the toilet" i laughed so hard at that. @9:38

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 Před rokem +1

      it was good though.
      It's a joke about when you go to the toilet and you have to "PUSH" to get it out lmao.

  • @BobOrKlaus
    @BobOrKlaus Před rokem

    22:20 Starwatch was pvp+, literally a feeding bot and some lvl 3 torb turrets lmao
    oh, and the stationary grav things noone really used (aside from the challenge to destroy 3 lol)

  • @nathanwofford8646
    @nathanwofford8646 Před 7 měsíci

    I sure would love an opportunity to discuss and disclose this whole issue on one of the streamer's live shows.

  • @lruddy8820
    @lruddy8820 Před rokem +1

    i like how asmon is like i dunno what to say and then makes a 42 min video

  • @krenzo_sam3985
    @krenzo_sam3985 Před rokem

    i tear up when i see the ow2 announcement trailer, its something i never had but feels like i lost something dear to me

  • @JustShiiro
    @JustShiiro Před rokem

    A reaction to a reaction to a reaction. This is prime youtube.

  • @potato9455
    @potato9455 Před rokem +3

    The thing that makes me saddest about PvE is that Blizzard ignored another option on the table - update the workshop into a full map editor like the ones they released in WC and SC. WC3 was literally still running with an active community 18 years after its initial release in 2002 SOLELY because it had a massive backlog of custom games created in its powerful map editor. Games like DotA, which went on to become Valve's cash cow because Blizzard told IceFrog to fuck off when he approached them about releasing it as a full game. And then they killed it with reforged because we can't have nice things, thanks again Blizzard I was just coming around to thinking there might be hope in this world.
    If you're focusing entirely on monetizing OW2 with skins and the store and giving up on actual content, why not give your community the tools to make your actual content for you? It just baffles me that not only are they acting scummy, they're also acting STUPID while doing it.

    • @MrKogarou
      @MrKogarou Před rokem +1

      But Blizzard thinks they can avoid losing the next Dota not by being a better partner, but by not providing the full map editor at all.

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 Před rokem +2

    What they should have done.
    Put work on the story and pve of the game and complete it.
    Release it with the heros that have finished skill trees.
    Release new heroes with skill trees as they finish them.
    What kinda of stupid higher up decided to waste actual years of work.

  • @cameronagha1449
    @cameronagha1449 Před rokem +1

    You know that pathfinder BD1 skin I literally already got it years ago. Nothing new happened for me in apex. I was like bruh I already had this and I felt like they gave it out jsut for Jedi Survivors release cuz that’s why we got it last time.

  • @myco2408
    @myco2408 Před rokem +1

    24:17 they made very sure that idea was seeded without crossing a line, legally.

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před rokem +1

      It was basically just a proof of concept video, and a cosmetics pack to profit off of the promise and it worked ssoooooooo well on me, a super fan of Tracer 😭 I just wanted my pulse bombs to duplicate, dayum….

  • @danielchase2700
    @danielchase2700 Před rokem +18

    "I'm the forgotten generation between gen z and millennials, I'm the one nobody gives a fuck about"
    Holy shit Flats I'm also 27 and damn near pissed myself laughing. I'm never heard our generation summed up so well 🤣

    • @Arastat1
      @Arastat1 Před rokem

      you have the freedom to choose between Z and millenials :D
      (I would choose Z)

    • @RPGgamerWolf
      @RPGgamerWolf Před rokem

      Don’t listen to the dude above, join us millennials! We have cookies and bacon! 😂

    • @ae-qw5xi
      @ae-qw5xi Před rokem +1

      aren't 27 year olds millennials tho?

    • @gammaraytrey8084
      @gammaraytrey8084 Před rokem

      @@ae-qw5xi they are but everyone hates millennials rn so they would rather distance themselves

  • @AFopMostFoul
    @AFopMostFoul Před rokem +1

    Feeling Flats forgotten generation rage, right here with ya buddy!

  • @Jugokazooie
    @Jugokazooie Před rokem

    40:18 HOLY F LMAO

  • @hookbait4221
    @hookbait4221 Před rokem +2

    Aaron looks like he aged 20 years since the first time we have seen him to now, its bad when he looks that stressed and pressured

  • @kalebcampos1064
    @kalebcampos1064 Před 10 dny

    I think Blizz didn't fail on titan and OW2. They just fubled titan twice. Once where they made OW2 as a salvage project of titan. And the second time when they couldn't even salvage the pve aspect of titan and failed to deliver.

  • @okgamer2158
    @okgamer2158 Před 11 měsíci

    Imagine an internet historian video detailing everything that went wrong

  • @Haunter5959
    @Haunter5959 Před 7 měsíci +2

    13:14 is that Mauga in his talon skin??

    • @vortex_beast1585
      @vortex_beast1585 Před 5 měsíci

      holy fuck it actually could just be sold as a mauga skin

  • @Kumbunchamushroomppl
    @Kumbunchamushroomppl Před rokem +1

    Someone needs to find Kaplan and interview him. The content would be sooooo good.

  • @GiantDad553
    @GiantDad553 Před rokem +2

    Brig having a 53% pick rate in OWL (JUST OWL not regular comp or quickplay): BUSTED CHANGE WHAT ARE YOU DOING
    Junker Queen in just about every game making all the other tanks basically useless: zzzzzz honk mimimimi hoooonk mimimimiim zzzzzzz

  • @Night_Times
    @Night_Times Před rokem +1

    As a Valorant player, I really liked OW pvp system and was actually interested in it more due to the lore and pve. Kinda dissappointed that they had to drop it off. Was really lookin forward for it.

  • @HeavyyyD
    @HeavyyyD Před rokem

    Dont aak questions, consume product

  • @lucasfleming2716
    @lucasfleming2716 Před rokem

    Thsi destiny music in the background is crazy