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My 1.9 jtd is faster,something wrong with the engine.
Mine too
There is definitely something wrong with that engine it doesn't even sound like the 3.2 V6 it took years to get up to its top speed which wasn't that fast anyway
@@KevZX-10RC1H It is definitely the 3.2 V6, it sounds like it, the engine has issues though. Way too slow as you said.
@@nvl2691 ok Thanks
@@nvl2691 I will say though that I have the Alfa 147 3.2 V6 and it sounds way better than this car and it revs freely all the way up to about 150mph and that's the reason why I said it doesn't sound like a V6
this has to be the most accurate speedo on earth. good job alfa!
At least the speedo accuracy is fine !
Yeah it's safer to be like that Incase you've accidentally hit a certain speed limit your Speedo is just a little faster than it should be
By law manufacturers have to have speedometers that display more speed than the real one. This one is on the limit
I see its made by VDO. I used to drive an Iveco daily van with a VDO speedo that was just as accurate, so good job VDO!
@@franciscoribeiro9103 the maximum allowable tolerance is about 2%. The speedo has to indicate at least 2% more speed than the actual speed
...you won't believe, but for some reason my 159 has 100% gps accuracy... although I somehow cannot believe how 260hp in this car feel so small... barely hitting 220... my 2.4 Q-Tronic goes without a problem up to 240ish... and it is a SW Ti
What? 30s 100-200. This engine is broken.
@@MazzolaRiccardo plus it doesnt sound like busso!
@@urostomic8359 Not much sounds like a Busso hahaha, but this engine doesn't sound bad.
@@MazzolaRiccardo I read in some car magazine that this v6 (post-Busso) is originally derived from Holden, and polished a bit by Alfa, do you know if that is true?
@@mdfk667 brera and 159 engine is basically GM engine, and its pretty bad when you compare it to the old busso. Fun fact: 159 is actually Opel Insignia underneath.
@@urostomic8359 Види Србенде.
One of the most beautiful SWs ever! Too bad this GM/Holden V6 doesn't get even near to what alfa's own V6 3.0 and 3.2 did!
Its the 3.2
@@lupurednic8624 ohh I didn't mean only on the GTA, but on the entire alfa line... the 3.0 24v with 220hp on the GTV also did well! Even the 2.5 on the 156 pulled well.
@@PHAER because the Alfa 156's engine was the V6 Busso, look it up, while the 159's V6 is GM derived...
@@Nickoboss29 that's what he was saying...
My 1.6 giulietta is accelerating faster, there is a problem with this package engine
The most accurate speedo I have ever seen
I waited for someone to do a proper acceleration of this car for years. Thank you 💯. On the other hand I'm about to cry because I didn't realize all that time how slow this car really is.... It is my dreamcar after all. I have a 156 currently.
156 is way better!
Update. I showed the video to a friend of mine who has a 2.2 Brera and he told me that his car has similar acceleration to this. So I guess there must be something wrong with it... I can't explain it otherwise...
@ps_works I'm never selling the 156 anyway 🤩
@@dennispapadopoulos4920 This car unfortunately has carbon build up issues. Being a low mileage direct injection engine, the excess carbon from the combustion deposits in the intake ports. Normally, running the engine often clears the carbon out. But since this one only has 42'000 km, the carbon had the time to dry out and block the flow of air within the engine.
Result: power loss of almost 30%. It's probably making less than 200 hp. Stock, they hit 240 km/h easily, while this one barely goes over 215 km/h.
Objectively, the 159 is much, much better than the 156. It is safer, better looking, more comfortable, it handles much better especially with the Q4 AWD system, and it's a hell of a lot more reliable. It's only drawbacks are the high weight (which was partially fixed in 2008, new aluminium chassis components dropped the weight by about 100 kg), and the lack of the characterful but old Busso V6.
The 3.2 JTS is a great engine, it makes more power than the Busso, a lot more torque, while being more economical while pulling a car 300 kg heavier (with AWD too). It's just strangled by the 6 catalytic converters in the exhaust manifolds and downpipes. Remove those, and it makes 290 - 300 hp with a remap.
Result: less than 5.5s 0-100 km/h time, in part thanks to the AWD system, and a 255 km/h top speed. Want more performance ? Rebore to 3.6L using Holden bores (OEM parts), port the heads and intake manifold, and you're making over 350 hp.
Underrated cars these 159s. Superior to it's predecessor in almos every way, injustly hated upon by the community due to the fixation on the high weight, as well as the spread of false information (such as "It's not an Alfa V6" and "It's a rebadged Opel Insignia" which are both wrong - the 159 is based on the GM premium platform which only it and the Brera used).
@@nvl2691 can confirm, the AWD handles great. I had a Volvo S60R, also AWD before this. Despite the extra weight, my 2.4 Diesel handles just as well but the steering has much better Feedback than the Volvo ever did, without being overly heavy.
very bad for 260hp
@@MazzolaRiccardo V6 busso
@@nicoloferrarese not a busso on 159, it's a shitty Holden
@@MrBreakingBud I don't understand what holden has to do with it
@@MrBreakingBud It's not shitty, but it's not great either
Heavy Car mans......
Something is wrong with the engine ...some sensor or else is broken
no its not ; ) they are slow as fuck
There is something wrong with the engine. It's not a busso.
Nothing wrong - 159 is very heavy and the egine is very low on torque. Try a dragrace with 156 GTA and you will see, even a 2.4 JTD 156 will smoke the 3.2 159.
@@psworks6603 watch other videos its faster not too much but def.faster..
@@psworks6603 Something is wrong for sure, the 159 3.2 hits 240 km/h from the factory while this one barely hits 220 km/h. It's as slow as a 1.9 JTD 159. Something wrong for sure.
I thankfully had the privilege to have driven the famous Busso made V6 engine fitted on previous Alfas. To be honest, the sound and feeling of that engine is something I can't describe. At best I can say that it is mesmerizing and addictive and above all enough reason to not need a car radio. I haven't experienced any engine like it before and since
One the other hand, I have to say that this video of the 159 seems to give a good impression of the sound of the engine. It's always hard to compare it to how it would sound and feel in real life, but I must say that I think it actually sounds good and not as bad as I heard people say it does. Although again it doesn't come close to the Busso V6, I can clearly hear something that sounds like a distinct V6 roar. Thanks for the video!
0-200 kmh= 1 millenium
Good to see a speedometer that is spot bollock on.
I think it's one of the most beautiful wagons of all times, more so than the Giulia.
Did they ever even make a Giulia wagon? Part of why I bought my 159 was that it seemed to be the last of the Alfa Wagons
AutoTopNL Why do you show a test of a car that is broken and drives much worse than the stock car?
Probably the car what they got
@@JKV. *_If he’s a professional in this job, then he shouldn’t even have to take to test this car like that._*
*_But of course he is no professional. He only makes money from youtube and he only cares about that. If he cared about car testing he would work on some television and have his own car show as a top gear_*
Now that's one sexy looking wagon.
Very nice car, with a shitbox Opel engine....
ha ha
Mine 1.9 opel its faster and its reliable af. Dont get messy without brands
Not an Opel engine at all, do your research....
@@nvl2691 This is not related to the Alfa Romeo V6 engine, but is instead a derivation of the GM High Feature engine; built in Australia by GM Holden. GM,OPEL,HOLDEN,VAUXHALL.... So what do you think ?
Opel Engines outlast every piece of shit engine Alfa ever created lmao
One of the best sound from V6 couldn’t believe how slow it is for now
That's literally one of the worst v6 sounds ever lol
This alfa is so good looking
I have that engine with qtronic automatic gearbox in my SW Ti and it goes much dynamic 0-100 and 100-200. But mostly i shocked that vmax is 222km/h in this video. My Alfa goes 235km/h and i sure have at least power under my feet that i can go around 245km/h. Something is wrong with car that you showed
Its not that slow, but the speedo is accurate. It is not VW Passat showing 220kmh but actually going like 195kmh.😆
The engine is broken. Not normal performance.
Very accurate speedo and Dragy GPS👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
How beautiful car sounds ❣️
Sounds pretty bad for a 3.2 litre V6 tbh
@@CB-sh9zz Well go figure, it's got one of the most restrictive exhaust systems ever put on a production car. Kinda explains it... listen to one with a Wizard exhaust and you'll see how nice they sound haha
- what is 100-200 time?
- someday
Alfa Romeo really received the short end of the stick with this car from GM. If it had a lighter body, the performance would have been in line with the 156GTA
What a beautiful car
31 second 100-200 in 260 HP V6???? Something is wrong in engine of this car.I think 16-18 second 100-200 is normal time 100-200 for this car;-)
@@MazzolaRiccardo You have the Busso, this engine in the 159 is from Holden/GM. And it does not produce 260 hp, maybe 200, but not more.
@@seniso512 Most 3.2 JTS do make 260 hp, but the one in the video has issues that's for sure.
@@MazzolaRiccardo Yes, your Alfa GT without Q4 (meaning 15% lower drivetrain losses which really matter at high speeds), pulling 300 kg less. Simple physics really.
Something is wrong with the car. My is 159 1.9jtdm 88kw and it is going like this 215km/h with around 360000km
Sounds and performs like a 1.0 ecoboost from Ford.
Я не супер специалист, но мне кажется мотор уставший😔 но звук этого мотора прекрасен
No one will never understands why so quiet exhaust whit this V6 installed.
They should test cars before filming to check if something is wrong or not lol xD
Let's take a moment and just listen 1:33 🤩
Hard facts :
1.159 is generally very heavy
2. Holden V6 is low on torque and thirsty
3. Taking into account 1. and.2. the acceletation is legit.
Sorry, no it is not.. it is slower than it should be.
Yes, car is heavy. Yes, it has only 322Nm of torque, but this car shown in video barely reached 220kph and it took ages to get there. Car can easily go faster and way quicker.
I have 159 with this engine.
@@Matus.S you can't know, if there's a slope or a headwind. I've only driven a Spider with this engine in the city and it felt unapropriately slow as well. And I always feel, that any car goes faster, than a filmed speedo suggests. So for me the phenomenon of 3.2 JTS is the long gearing, low torque and high weight of the models it was installed on. Well even if you subtract couple of seconds to the car in the video, it would be slow either - the older V6 models are rockets in comparison, anyways. Not to mention BMW engines of this aera with comparable displacement.
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just as I started watching you again you come out with a video on my car. thanku gooood. there are two differences from this and my car tho. mines a 1.9 8v. buuuuuut, its a sedan
I own 159 3.2 (fucking heavy)
Same weight as G30 BMW 540i against body size.
Motor defekt oder ? Werksangsbe sind mindestens 240 km/h Vmax .
Das kommt dabei raus wenn ein Motor nie richtig gefahren wurde....?? Hallo....der hat 260 PS und läuft nicht besser als ein 150 PS TDI...
Agree, this engine def. doesn't have full 260PS. Healthy 159 with this engine is faster.
Tsi, other cars tdi bla bla. Be happy that you could see Alfa on road driving by herself. Dont complain
"Buy a Bugatti Veyron, be happy if you get 100hp" 🤦
When the AC is loudest thing on the car
My wife's golf 1.4tsi runs faster.
But still it's a nice car
what 1.4 is it? 🤔
@@willpark7483 tsi
@@willpark7483 1.4 tsi 170hp stock.
St2 ~230hp
@@ArtSkyNet Oh nice the mk5 gt ?
@@willpark7483 exactly:)
If i ever adapt a family, it wud only be as an excuse to buy this looker.
Busso should be proud of it...
except its not one
This i Opel/Gm engine :)
Busso is much better.
Are the timing chains reliable on these as I heard they can stretch over time and need to be replaced
I think I can keep up with this 159 with my 156 2.0 Twin Spark
Because this 159's engine has big issues. Much slower than it should be...
Your 156 2.0 TS is an awesome car though.
That engine is done.
Great looking car ❤
As fast as my E46 318i 😂
260hp I don't think so mabe 190🤨
@Muk heb'n Carbon build-up issues in the engine due to the low mileage.
Very slow
First time ever Speedo and Gps match
This engine had 211hp on the Vectra, I'm sure GM sold it at "260" to Alfa but in reality it was still 211hp
XD Its not the same enigne
the 211hp Vectra is much faster than this
@@MrRohanThomas Because this engine specific car has carbon build up issues. Makes less than 200 hp.
It's a completely different engine apart from the block. The heads and pistons are Alfa designed.
@@nvl2691 I cleaned my 2.2 jts with 150.000 km from the carbon on the inlets. But this is one just has 40.000 km on the clock 🤔
There is a problem with the engine
beautiful design
Engine has clearly a fault. That car does easily sub 20 seconds 100-200 and 240+ km/h
it should do 0-200 in about 27 secs,
Zeperfs says 24 seconds ...
To slow alfa or spedometer?
top job on making the alfa look slow, this one needs to come back when its fixed. there's clearly major problems with the engine.
Carbon build up, making less than 200 hp for sure.
@@nvl2691 this thing is max 160hp
@@nvl2691 I remember the alfa Romeo 159 150hp do 212
Good video
Its not broken people, its Alfa!
I like this car)
people that say it's slow or will breake down just don't understand cars....
deze gaat ook niet zo rap, 100-200 in 32 seconden is niet best.
Unfortunately this car shown in video can't have its full 260Hp. Healthy 159 with 3.2JTS is faster.
Now you gotta test a Peugeot 407 3.0 V6 please
Horribly performance...very very poor acelaration
My GT 3.2 it's around 15,5-16,5 in 100-200 km/h in GPS times, 100% stock... And my Giu QV 240 it's about 16,5-17,5....
The GT has the 3.2 Busso engine, not the GM/Opel/Saab block with an Alfa head. Alfa stats say the Busso is 2kW down, but it's never felt like that when driving them both. My non-Busso 3.2 in a Brera was closer to 17s
@@kanguruster
If you actually had both engines, you wouldn't say such nonsense. It is very typical to say that the GM is better than the busso .... when you don't actually have a busso. The 1.75 tbi and the busso are infinitely faster than the GM. Mainly because they move 300-350 kilos less and have better cx and a much more closed gear. The GM is not a bad engine, but it is a tame engine and heavily weighed down by the 939 platform ... If you still have doubts, watch tests or watch any video ...
17 seconds possibly in your dreams.
Jeje
@@rpp7187 I completely agree with you, except for how you've misread me. When I've driven a GT Busso, while I didn't time it, it felt faster than my Brera and I completely believe your 15.5 seconds compared to my 17-and-a-bit.
@@kanguruster
The time ranges that I have set for both cars I own are measured with GPS. There is always room for error, the unevenness always affects the condition of the car ... I have to say that the tbi is always a little faster at the beginning and then the V6 busso is faster. Times can vary 1 second, maybe 2. That's a lot. But in any case they are logical. They are similar to the test averages. A Brera 3.2 according to the 6 tests recorded by Zeperfs takes 23-24 seconds on average. According to AutoMotorundSport, almost 28 ... 17 seconds your Brera, is to do pure magic.
This car has some issue with the engine. It is definitely not full 260Hp under the bonnet. Barely reached 220kph and it took ages to get there. I have 159 3.2JTS Q4 and it goes faster (and quicker). For sure not that fast as GT with Busso (FWD with much less weight and more freely reving engine compared to AWD with engine more restriced due to emission standards and heavier platform), but it is ok for family wagon.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING. EVERY DAY I WATCH OR THINK SOMETHING. AND NEXT DAY SOMEONE DO VIDEO ABOUT IT. YESRTERDAY I WAS WATCHING ALFAS
Something is not right. İ have done 225km/h on my 1.9 JTDm 8V 120hp and it was keeping 220-225 no matter the incline (No tune, EGR/DPF working, stock exhaust) 215/60/16 Tires. With 2 people in the car.
The car weighs nearly 1700KG and has only 256HP
Have you idiots in the comments nevrr heard of power to weight ratio.
Too used to seeing tuned m140is
EDIT - I now agree there is something wrong with this engine, its still a heavy car but I have looked at other acceleration videos and they're much quicker.
What’s that under the hood? Ford Ka?
Crappy engine this for GM, also has less horsepower than they say, the older V6 Busso is so much better!
Without a busso, she is soulless 😢😢
Beautiful sound ❤
I am just amazed how much false information is being spread over the 159, its 3.2JTS engine, platform and about Alfa Romeo brand in general. Seems everyone is a specialist on Alfa Romeo and yet I bet, majority of the people here in comments never owned one. Thanks to guys like Nathan, trying to bring pure facts into this comment section.
Its a heavy car with long gears, what do you expect? It weights nearly 1700kg and has a BHP/ton of 154.
acc to the sellers description it is a Q4 and has full options so it probably weighs even more than that. 1850 kg I would assume. My full option Brera 2.2 JTS weighs 1600 kg
Should do 0-100 in 7 dead and have a top speed of 244 kph. That's E46 330i level, but it's hardly faster than a 320d.
my 159 2.0 170 defap+map 80-180 18sec (tacho)
How that car has 6 cyclinders. It’s so slow. Maybe, can be heavy weight
The 3.2 v6 from alfa only sounds good, other than that its trash!
@@momentum6743 this engine is from holden
@@momentum6743 it's not even an alfa engine, the JTS is from GM, this aint a busso
@@momentum6743 I saw that :)
Its heavy.
The best Engine you can get for the 159 Sportwagon, is the 2.4 JTDm that i got.
The 3.2 is rubbish. Even the 1.9 JTD is better. The Busso is a different class when compared to the JTS.
“Feels” slow?
Engine is bwoken
Audi A4 1.8t 190cv please 🙌🏻🙌🏻
as far as I know you can reach the top speed only in fifth gear
This doesn't sound right. I have the same engine in my Brera and the volume is higher and the speed is faster and it's not tuned.
Mine 2.0 jtd with remap around 205/210 CV hit the 240 mark, but doesnt made that sound. Only the sound of my wife screams
Hello
Alfa needs to bring back a wagon
Can't be right.
My Rover 75 2,5 V6 was barely any slower than this - and that's 90hp down on power compared to this on paper. Actually I think it's slower than my Rover was.
Por la performance ese ni siquiera es el 2.2 jts es el 1.8 mpi o 1.9 jts el v6 hace de 80 a 180 en 17 segundos promedio
Get the engine fixed and run the test again. There is clearly something wrong with it, this is not what one would expect from 260hp.
Schönes Auto! Ist der Motor in Rente?
hahahaaaa dacht ich auch... da ist niemand zuhause^^
da ist ja jeder 1.9 JTD schneller... da stimmt doch was nicht!! von 100kmh -200kmh 30 sec.... und er quält sich bei der Höchstgeschwindigkeit und hat es mit ach und krach auf 220kmh gebracht..
Why is it so slow, differential rate or what?
Its snail slow, but the speedo is correct, at least.
Is this car rare in Germany ?
Opel Astra F Gsi stock is more fast
But this one is more beautiful.
What a rocket hahahaha
Fuck australian v6, we want a new Busso please and make AR great again
Is there a ASR or VDC problem? That's why is so slow
Ottima,complimenti
it cant be 260hp. I have a bmw e90 320d with 184 and it drives the 100-200 in 28 seconds... a tuned e90 320d with 220-230hp goes from 100-200 in 23 seconds...
So something is wrong i think
yes, I have this 3.2JTS in my 159 and is definitely faster..goes faster and is quicker. Many horses died in this specific car shown in video.
Wow that Speedo is so accurate
Edit: how slow is this car lol
U sure this engine is okay? Since it looks like my 2009 Toyota Prius will keep up until 180.