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They were called air nomads DESPITE having dedicated temples because... they moved between the temples. Actual nomads have locations they return to, the only difference is that the places the air nomads returned to were made out of rock and on top of mountains so it was easy to just leave them be instead of rebuilding every time.
to add the temple's are both religous buildings and places that over housing the air nomads made the temples there homes but would also live on other spots therefor the people are nomadic in general
the housing is just a room and as the air nomads dont believe in ownership these were largely like a guest room its yours until you move out but you dont own it
Funny thing about Goku not being seen as an outlier in the odd world of Dragon Ball. After the first time Goku went Great Ape, Oolong asked, “So is Goku an alien or something?”
And the best part, I don't think Toriyama had planned on that being the case yet. It makes it even funnier. 😁
Not sure if that was dub thing?
@@TheArcSet It was in the Japanese version of the manga.
No Toryiama did plan that,, but he was improvising a lot@@Airier
The Air Nomads are 'nomads' because they mostly ARE nomadic, their temples are more like waystations and places to raise their kids until they're old enough to travel on their own. They had to have somewhere to keep artifacts, raise and train new air benders, and generally organize from. Those were the temples, most of the air benders were not at the temples most of the time.
Regardless of whether hyperspace ramming is as bad as people say it is, I hate the argument of "it's fantasy so no form of consistency or logic should ever be considered for any reason ever"
Randall: "You know what always confused me about Star Wars was Princess Leia's sovereignty. If you were her, wouldn't you be happy when Alderaan blew up? I mean, you'd be queen at that point!"
Dante: "Her mother was dead before the planet blew up, so wouldn't she be queen already?"'
Randall: "Ahh, the whole movie's flawed. Like that lightsaber stuff. You turn it on, and it goes yea high; how does it know when to stop??"
Dante: "Um... the Force?"
Randall: "Man, that's your answer for everything!"
@@michaelbryant3640 I did say consistency and logic, not realism. As long as that's just how the fictional technology works that's fine. That's different from the way it works or our understanding suddenly changing in ways that seem like a contradiction to some people. And setting aside the fact that a person can be sad about millions of deaths even if they gain some degree of political power, it isn't impossible for a country to need to officially recognize the transfer of title in some way. Plus I question how much additional ability to act she'd have suddenly had in the moment due to just that, making it less important than the military capabilities of every faction for millennia. All of which is completely beside the point. There's a lot of space between quibbling over everything and never being bothered by things that seem "off". Different people have different levels of ability to suspend their disbelief, and that's okay. They aren't objectively wrong to have any feelings at all just because of the genre, and it's understandable to be a bit annoyed if something you'd been enjoying for a long time very suddenly goes over your line and you can't get into it anymore. Which isn't to say being a dick about it is okay either.
There can be a whole spectrum of fantasy stories ranging from things where you don't even know if there were really any fantastic elements all the way to pure dream logic. More grounded fantasy isn't wrong for being what it is, and its fans aren't wrong for that preference.
6:44 airier, people hate hyperspace ramming because it breaks the universe. not because of some science or other
Sasuke is actually a *great* setup because he's the last true Uchiha. The other ones alive have either tossed aside the clan or have been forced away from it, so it's up to Sasuke to decide what the Uchiha are about. He is the last one living *as* an Uchiha even before the others die.
Now I dont feel the series *does* enough with this, but I've read a lot of great fic that explore this aspect. Honestly it goes hand in hand with the thing's Red talked about with Aang, just yeah the added wrinkle of others running around who aren't worried about the culture anymore.
My honest opinion, Naruto had a lot of great character potential, but somewhere during the 4th Shinobi war, or earlier for people with differing opinions, Kishimoto started to royally shit the bed and hasn't stopped with any new entry, The Last maybe excluded.
@@ChRiAn0815kishimoto was like:
"What does the Story need? More Uchiha"
@@ChRiAn0815 Yeah, as a huge Naruto fan, I have to fully agree with this. Kishimoto was great at world building and even making awesome backstories and setups for characters....He just couldn't grow and evolve those characters to save his life, especially the women.
I love the Trope Talks but I have to say, I would have preferred if you went with chronological release order rather than starting with the latest.
1:15 TV Tropes calls the phrase "I don't care what happens to these people." Eight Deadly Words. And it pretty much shows the same thing as "hated is better than boring/forgettable". TV Tropes description also includes "the opposite of love isn't hate it is apathy" in the description, which I would agree with.
5:00 Actually Vader being Luke's father wasn't planned back in a New Hope and was only added in Empire.
47:30 Cause they are nomads who move around. They do have temples as "bases of operation" but individual air nomads themselves move between the temples, not live in one for their whole life.
The cave/tunnel episode was the one with the two tribes who disliked each other that Aang claimed to know the founders of but did not.
This reminds me Tumblr quote "Warcrimes are fictional but my annoyance is real"
For your last, those were two completely different episodes; "the valley", the only true filler in the ATLA series, and "the cave of the two lovers" (can't remember if that's the real episode title).
@@draxomegaI thought he was actually talking about the Great Divide episode cuz it's the episode that Nickelodeon decided to air repeatedly until we grew to hate it but he kept mentioning a cave so I immediately thought it was the Cave of Two lovers. Idk he's probably not really remembering it
Yes, please watch Avatar: the Last Airbender. If you think you've seen the Cave of Two Lovers episode too much, you can skip all but the last couple minutes - the end of the episode does set up plot for the next episode (there is some nice world building in the rest of the episode that you might appreciate more if you watch the rest of the series, but it's optional). Also, don't be surprised if season 1 feels a bit slow or episodic - it is considered the weakest of the three, but is still quite good and sets up pieces for the next two seasons
I think he's actually thinking of "The Great Divide" episode, but he's conflating it with "The Cave of Two Lovers" episode and it's confusing us because he's mentioning "cave" a lot, but also mentions Friends as well at another point.
@rabbidcreature9681 I think he did mean the great Divide cuz he mentioned seeing an episode where someone knew someone as a friend and immediately it reminded me how they settled the Great Divide episode. So I think he just probably didn't remember😅
@@DianaDxD very possible, i was watching Macabre Storytelling's review of the series, and after he assumed the reason people hated the episode so much was because of something Aang says towards the end of the episode, some comments informed him that it was because that one episode was just aired _all the time_
you have it backwards Mark Hamil was to only one that knew the twist so he could react correctly. the guy playing Vader didn't know until he saw the movie as hid lines were dubbed later
Also according to Mark Hamil apparently during the premiere of the movie Harrison Ford turned to Mark after the scene and said to him "Hey kid you didn't F*king tell me that"🤣
Since you brought it up, baby Kal-El's spaceship landed outside the small town of Smallville. The state where Smallville was located was left something of a mystery, but it's not too difficult to figure out that it was in one of the Eastern Seaboard states (specifically Maryland). It wasn't until the 1978 Superman movie that Smallville was re-imagined as being in Kansas.
answering the question about the air nomads having set locations. Those set locations are the 4 Airtemples where the Children and talented benders learned to airbend while most of the Airnomads where traveling with the help of the Airbisons. Many of the Nomads where non-benders, wich is why the ty lee theory has some merit.
Uh where did u get that many of them are non-bender, because it is the exact opposite, all of them were benders this was because the air nomads so spiritual and air was the most spiritual, that thanks to living in such an environment all air nomads were born as benders as compared to the other nations where only some were benderd
Ngl when the "cave" epidode was pointed out as a bad episode, I was out right mad thinking it was the cave of two lovers, then figured out it actually was the great divide... And kinda agree
Yeah even I was confused cuz he mentioned the episode aired a lot so the Great Divide was the only answer that made sense. The cave thing kept throwing me off😅
Also, hard disagree that things like Hyperspace ramming doesn't matter. Yes it looked amazing, but the important part about stories is that they are internally consistent. No matter how hard or how soft they are, what's possible and what isn't should be consistent. Hyperspace ramming is something that would require a lot of explanation to make work within the decades of established rules, and that explaining wasn't done and what *was* done fell flat for a lot of people, me included.
The biggest problem with Hyperspace ramming is how easy it is. This bring up question like why nobody thought of this before. Hitting a small target(like a ship) over a long distance is hard, but a planet or a space station is very achievable; so no need for Death Star or firing at a exhaust port on said Death Star just a big transport ship filled with explosive
Whoo! More Trope Talk, with Airier!! Also, MASTERS?! Hot damn, man!
Might not be the best financial decision I've ever made. But it was really fascinating to do.
Steam Engines Locomotives could do well above 100 miles per hour. Also at that point you have electric locomotives that also can go faster. This is 1938, no 1838, where 30 miles per hour would be "high" speed.
I like how you literally brought up Saskue NOT being the only Uchiha in Naruto and then you think Red is referencing Supergirl as breaking the rule of "last of their kind". Yes, she does bring up Supergirl in the video, but I just thought it was funny how you implied that was the most obvious one when it wasn't even the one you yourself had just brought up.
The problem with ‘I am your father’ is that it became so famous and well known that new fans going in blind will know nothing about the show except for that twist.
Trains in 40's... Steam trains from the 60's held the record for fastest trains for decades... more like 130-250MPH range.
Actually steam trains from 40s-60s outperform most of the current trains on US railways TODAY!
You’re thinking of silver age Superman who dragged multiple planets.
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There is actually a trope talk on this very subject. It's the plot twist trope talk.
24:37 While I haven't seen the third movie (and there's a fourth one coming out), the first two movies were really good! Definitely recommend 👍🏻👍🏻
On Star Trek TNG's androids, Data was the last one, but in the series, it changed outside of Lore.
The first is Data creates a daughter, but due to the nature of not being able to properly process the positronic brain and dealing with too many new things at once killed her.
Second, Data found out the wife and assistant to his creator (Soun) died and her memories transferred into a android the good doctor build. She does not know she is an android and keeps it hidden at the end under the urging of a recording of his father.
Then there is B4, which was introduce as protype of Data's line that was part of a process of Shinzun's to steal Federation secerts to invade the Federation. In the movie and later series Picard, which I am telling you never watch for its frustrating on every level, he takes over the body after dying.
So retcon is right for Data is truly the last for all other androids are dead, and forever are dead. There are no other androids revealed in the single season of Picard. Yeah, there are no 3 seasons, and if anyone tells you that, know they are liars and should be ignored. Season 3 was better then STD but still poor at best.
2:34 I feel this! I act, so written out accents in scripts is a nightmare.
Also, love that you’re diving into trope talks!
I had a stroke reading that title🤣🤣🤣
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Bro Airier not knowing what kongfu panda is , is so frustrating 😅
Was kinda hoping you'll watch them in order of release (playlist) starting with, well, Beginnings, but just whichever trope catches your interest the most is fine too.
The air nomads for the most part do not live their entire lives in the temples, only those with talent for air bending would start in the temples year round, there was also the majority of air nomads who practiced the beliefs but did not have any bending abilities and spent just of their lives as wanderers making a living by doing trade and asking for temporary food and shelter in exchange for a temporary worker.
A slight correction because I am a nerd: Mark Hamill said, "Obi-Wan told me everything. He told me you killed my father," and the response he heard on set was, "No, Obi-Wan killed your father!"
If I'm the one in the wrong here I'll be happily corrected because it's always fun to learn something about things I like.
That is correct and Mark Hamill knew the truth. (he needed to react correctly, the rest of the people on set did not know the truth).
6:20 "theres a trend right now of movies trying to subvert expectation, like a certain starwars one..."
Dude, sorry to do this, but... Rise of Skywalker was 5 years ago, and the Last Jedi was 7 years ago.
Not quite 'currently' anymore.
Airier, if you want to watch any more trope talk, or anything Red that isn't legends or literary, watch Avatar, Red being a fangirl of that show is a trope in itself by now.
Red mentions AtLA is the free space on the bingo card.
13:15 Red actually also has a recent Trope Talk about Lampshading.
I'd also recommend her Trope Talk on Personifying Death, which is just one of the most gut-wrenching I've watched because of course it talks about Terry Pratchett.
you never heard, dc characters are gods playing human and marvel characters are humans playing god, i dont know how accurate that is though.
Hi Ariier this was a great video man another character that fits the topic of the video is Robin from one piece has the most tragic back story
As a child Robin was born smart and could figure things out and understand things that even adults could not but that was also her curse as well
Because when you live on an island full of smart people
Some one is going to be angry
The world government came to Robin Island to destroy it
She lost everything to them her home her mother her favorite library everything she had to fight in order to survive and then things changed for her she found friend that wood not abandoned her
So when her past comes back to hurt her friends she worked so hard to find she turned her self in in order to save all Tham as for how it ends go look into it
47:30 They rarely stuck to one location, they just built temples to help isolate themselves from material desires and focus on spiritualism, they weren't bound to those temples except maybe as kids.
Why would Mark Hamill have heard "I killed your father" in a French accent, when David Prowse (the guy in the suit on-set) is English?
edit: WAS English - looked him up to make sure I was remembering correctly, turns out he died in 2020. :(
Yes, more trope talks! Let’s go!!
Woo, finally dipping into the other formats, (I think they were the 1st I found).
Thanks for this reaction.
( I think there are 4 movies and maybe 4 TV seasons, but I've only seen the 1st two movies.)
Heeeey, so I heard that reacting to Avatar is a trend now… :P
The sake of my sanity, I'm going to hope you mean the TV show and not the shyamalan movie. 😨
@Airier, there is a new live action show about Avatar on Netflix
@@Airier
..not going to lie…
All of it.
*But!*
The show is the first one, obviously. Everything else is still optional.
13:50 Its especially painful in sci fi stories where the excuse could be as simple as "these survivors were out in space during the event that wiped out their race"
Most of these settings have pretty casual space travel, a few stragglers being offworld and surviving by luck shouldn't be a tough sell, ex: the Saiyans.
On the topic of Eccleston leaving Doctor Who,
The reason Eccleston left was because the production of series 1 of Doctor Who was a nightmare and certain crew members were not treated well. The BBC were originally going to keep his departure a secret which was what they agreed to with Eccleston, however, after Rose, Eccleston departure from the show was leaked and the BBC had to make a statement about it without telling Eccleston and they attributed a fake quote to him saying he was tired. Eccleston then took to legal action to which he was then blacklisted from the BBC and most of Britain so now he had to move to America to work as an actor.
we are talking late 1930s trains have been around for a while and they had made them faster over time steam engines and at this time diesel engine had been invented for a few decades and was being fased out in the 30s the fastest passenger trains were capable of reaching speeds of around 100-120 km/h (62-75 mph)
We need to hear your thoughts on Avatar. If not full reactions, at least give us your thoughts every few episodes.
The cave of two lovers actually sets up a lot of stuff. Introduced the badgermoles who are important for the world building, ends on a lead in to the next episode.
The other episode it seems you didn’t like was The Great Divide. Which most people don’t care for. Since none of the factions from it return, you can skip it consequence free.
At the very least, you simply must watch up to The Blue Spirit, which was what the studio was initially greenlit for.
Steam locomotives for the most part are more powerful than a standard automobile. Horsepower wise a steam locomotive is about 10 times as powerful as an internal combustion engine. So when the narrator says that Superman is more powerful than a locomotive he is saying that Superman has the ability to pull a train with 150 to 200 fully loaded boxcars attached.
there is actualy a 4th movie coming out.
28:29 not having seen "The Last Unicorn" is actually a crime
i don't know how fast the fastest steam locomotives were, but some modern refurbished steam locomotives can get up to 80 MPH. i'm sure there were ones that could get up to 100 maybe faster. of course modern cars can get up to 200+ some even getting close to 300. depends on the car of course, but depends on the loco. *shrug*
I can't believe the only 2 episodes of Avatar this guy remembers are the Cave of Two Lovers and the Great Divide, easily the 2 weakest ones in the entire series 😂I don't believe they're bad, the cave episode actually had some cool lore and the Great Divide was funny in my opinion, but that is some legendary levels of bad luck right there, man
Yes, some are just stating a personal opinion and many writers take it poorly (The comment of "Oh hey, that looks just like this character from this much more well-known thing!" has happened to me before... That character introduced me to Quiet from MGS. The individual saw me drawing this character of mine that has a nickname Rat and said something along the lines of "Quiet doesn't have an eyepatch or a shoulder-pad on one arm, or dog-tags". I had a twenty-minute argument with them, after they wouldn't accept that this character was not Quiet (Who are the time I said "Whoever that is") for various reasons. They then listed off everything about Quiet, to which we ended the argument when I said "Ok, that's cool, but Quiet's a human... Rat's a Werewolf that was experimented on in WWII, her eye is covered because it can't turn human-looking (Always a wolf eye), she has the shoulder-guard (Not a pad) because of an old injury and it helps protect her shoulder when using a gun that is basically an anti-aircraft gun she ripped off the ground, and she's German." They then read a short story I first ever wrote about Rat (Which was TWELVE YEARS before Phantom Pain was ever mentioned; they told me about that) and apologized for harassing me over a character I never heard of. We then bonded over MGS games as I began playing them soon after since I was curious to see this character they felt they had to fight about.
However, I have had MANY people outright claim I stole a work or character before, and then them ACTUALLY reading my stuff and apologizing when they find out that I may have never heard of something they were talking about or it's a COMMON design. Key example: Someone once claimed a script I wrote for a class in the style of Shakespeare was a rip-off of a movie that was popular... After I read the script out to them they realized my script is a gruesome romance story set in ancient Ireland and yeah once the violence in it starts they apologized.
Unfortunetely, your Luke/Vader reveal anecdote is completely wrong. Mark Hamill said in an interview that Lucas took him aside before they shot the scene and showed him a piece of paper which said "I am your father" and told Hamill that only he, Lucas, the producer and obviously James Earl Jones who delivers the line, know. The line that was made during the shoot was "Obi Wan killed your father". Other than that - everyone else found out during screening.
it's amazing how much this one video brought out of you in terms of opinions
One case of someone veing the last of their kind handled well is Solo from Megaman Starfoce he is the last member of a dead civilisation.
Unfortunately because he is different from the other people around him he was treated horrible this caused him to distance himself from others and only puts value in his people past.
11:55 Kansas specifically.
It's never too soon for the puns.
11:00 nothing came after, except the creater started a cooking show or something idk haven't seen it
Ah, the OTHER other great rabbit hold of OSP! Honestly they have a whole warren by now but that's beside the point. It is probably best to go chronologically with these because Red builds on them over time, although her Trope Talks on Plot Twists and Personifying Death are fantastic and her vids around the Five Man Band concept are just classics. Getting in some Avatar viewing is a good idea if you're going to react to these as Red goes to that well quite often.
Just like mongo, they move around but still have a sacred mountain which have a temple
Honestly, mate, i absolutely _lothe_ the arguement of "Its fantasy! Who cares?"
Every single _good_ fantasy story (Or every story in general) _must_ stay consistent with itself.
Lord of the Rings, for example, literally was built with rules _first_ before the story was written. When you establish rules, its vitally important to _maintain_ those rules.
Otherwise, the viewer will just.... stop caring about the story.
Why should I worry about X character when they always pull something out of their ass at the last second to save themselves?
Eyyyyyy please do more Trope Talks!!!
I’m going to assume Airier hasn’t actually seen The Last Jedi because he says the middle part of that movie has no point and only exists to “subvert expectations” (which was something that Rian Johnson said off-hand in a interview, btw). It should be embarrassing for someone who claims to have a masters in writing to not seem to have thought deeper than the surface level.
The real issue with “subverting expectations” is no one who complains about writers supposedly trying to do so has any idea what they’re talking about!
Hello, would you like to hear the word of "Serina: World of Birds"?
Awh... that means I can't share my opinions about some of ATLA's finer details until much later. Man, I was about to gush about everything.
I want to recommend a short film called GRUFF | A Short Film by Righteous Robot which reached 1.5 million views in 24 hours. It is paper art film which is a media that rare but emotional.
Day 3 of asking Airier for Monkey wrench reaction
You can do your puns if you want to. They really show your character.🙂
You do need to wach Avatar as soon as posible, red mentions it a lot because It's often one of the Best examples of tropes done right for most tropes
You absolutely should try the panda series. The bird is truly a great character, and voiced by Gary Oldman.
they just a discussion on Sun Tzu that you need to check out
Perfect name holy lord
The Temples don't move, the People move between the temples using them as stopping points
Moving Temples would be cool too 😅
I'd love to watch you watch the trope talk on accents, just by the comment on written accent
You haven’t seen Avatar?! Well, if your up for it that would be a fun reaction series
He insults harem anime. That’s one of my favorite genres. DxD, HotD, Rosario + Vampire and more are great!
There making a fourth Kungfu Panda movie.
Airier. Can you React too Error sans vs Error 404 sans (ANIMATION) Made by "NAME" its a good animation not like Underverse but its a good animation tho its your choice to React or not the choice is your Anyways have a good day i hope you see this comment and put a Comment to thi comment anyways bye.
Kinda funny you started to talk about accents while stopping video on Hatsune Miku (3:00), as this is linguistic joke for me as a Finnish person. I couldn't tell what original Finnish song, that Hatsune Mikus Ievan Polkka is based on, says since its words are from "just" over 120 years ago and from different region. I CAN'T AT ALL UNDERSTAND MORE THAN 20% WHATS SAID IN SONG!
I guess it depends also on how thick accent you are writing? :D Like having slight one is probably okay, but going full phonetic gotta be confusing in english
I'm sorry what did you say about the cave of two lovers?
Yes! Finally!
Did...did you, the English major, just pronounce the "g" in "paradigm"?
there i 4th coming out
hey maybe you could watch avatar with us so people could clerify things for you in the comments because the show is very deep and very detailed.
If need exrta content, you should know that ATLA fans love watching newbies react to the show.
Day 72 of asking Airier for ENA reaction (Goku, first thing that comes to mind)
I will gladly take a boring character over an annoying one
Yeah, you are definitely uncultured.