F-104 intercept / G650ER - "One More Orbit" World Record Flight
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- Gulfstream G650ER World Record Flight around the globe "One More Orbit" from the Kennedy Space Center and back through the poles. The flight took place between Jul 9-11 2019. The G650 was intercepted by a Lockheed F-104 over KPBI and escorted to the Kennedy Space Center to landing at the end of the record flight. One more formation flight was made the day after as a celebration of the new record.
My Dad, Retired Colonel Thomas J Hally flew the F-102 fighter jet
in Vietnam, over 328 combat missions. I just saw this today and it made me cry. He died Tuesday and is once again flying his jet.
...now your father can fly in peace in heaven 🙏.....and will protect you and your family from a higher Level.
Best regard from Germany
That is a beautiful sentiment, thank you for sharing
Dear Mr. Ciacchi you deserve a place in the history of aviation as well as F104, keeping it in flight in the second millennium !
F-104s are so sexy. No matter how old they are they look like they just landed from the future.
They just landed the day after yesterday
WORST AERODYNAMICS, LIKE FLYING A RATTLE TRAP BARREL. NICKNAMED THE WIDOW MAKER. THIS COMING FROM 104 AIR FORCE PILOTS. MAJOR DESIGN FLAW: WINGS TOO SHORT. (P-51 MUSTANG GALLOPING GHOST CRASHED DUE TO OVER MODIFYING WINGS: CUT TOO SHORT, LESS WING = LESS DRAG + LESS LIFT). I DO AGREE THE AIR FRAME SHAPE IS TIMELESS.
@Leo Peridot I prefer the Italian nickname "Spillone" (Big Pin). "Widow maker" was used by German publilc opinion due to the significant rate of losses suffered by its military aviation (292 losses over 916 planes total).
@@williampercival7662 Or the day before tomorrow.
@@seymourscagnetti1413 please..read NSTB report, before writing idiocy!
read also about history...about nickname
While admiring the F-104s close proximity of the much larger Gulfstream, out of no where the horrible F-104 / XB70 collision and crash jumped into my mind.
It was my first thought at the start of the formation flying. However I'm guessing the vortices put out by the Gulfstream are much less, especially with the winglets.
Yes, that was definitely very close. Deja-vu
Me too!
Though about that also, but didn’t roll it over the top😅
My Father had worked on the XB-70 inlet fairings and engine nacelles. He had some choice words for the Air Force Brass who approved an unnecessary photo shoot that led to the death of Walker in his F-104 and the XB-70 #2 and one of its pilots.
“To make landing speeds “reasonable,” The F-104 forced engine air through the wings to smooth the airflow and give more lift. With bleed air, the Zipper could land at the challenging but not extreme speed of 160 to 165 knots. If the air-bleed system was not working, landing speeds climbed to 240 knots.”
The mig-21 had similar bleed air flaps
Yes....very close. For the single seat, base turn speed with full flaps, is 200Knots min, speed on final 175 Knots min. With Flap T/O (no bleed) base turn min speed 230 Knots, final speed 195 knots min. No Flap, there is no base turn, only long final (15 NM or so min) speed on final, 230 Knots minimum. All these speeds are considered with no fuel. For each 1000# of fuel = speed adjustment of 5knots. Same concept for any additional weight (payload). The bird likes to go fast.
@@PiercarloCiacchi 1000ft 5nm ..... e ricordarsi di estrarre il parafreno sotto i 180kts 😉
Flaps in landing position: Bleed air comes right from the 17th compressor stage of the J-79s 8 and 4 o'clock bleed air outlet (uncooled), goes through the BLC (boundary layer control) valve, inside tubes in the wings and then directly on to the trailing edge flaps via a row of nozzles between the flaps and the wing itself. There is also a symmetric system with a cam which detects if the flaps are actually extended at the same time. If not the flaps automatically retract. I am currently working on 2-3 F-104G whose purpose is to act as practical exercises for us trainees. These are beautiful machines, but they are very hard to maintain because you literally can't reach anywhere without breaking your arms 😬
Reasonable speeds for a lawn dart. :-D
I had a flying instructor who had flown 104s in the Pakistani air force. He said they would go full throttle vertically, until they flamed out! Then they would tumble down, bump start, and land! Said it was dark at the top...lucky sod!!!
Dad did this often, once right over Cold Lake Tower.
The missile with a man in it…..one of the coolest nicknames for an airplane ever!
Aluminum death tube
Great stuff Piercarlo! Keep filming that 104, we can’t get enough.
Two things, That G-650 is gorgeous and Mr. Ciacchi you are an absolute pro and pleasure to watch work. Excellent video.
FANTASTIC, up n close POV all the phases of the Legendary Starfighter! Thank you so much!
That just made me realize how effing long I didn't hear a Starfighter. As a child, I heard them fly almost every day, that very high pitched hiss as they approached, that turned into a low and furious rumble after they passed.
That’s the coolest F-104 that I have ever seen. Excellent!
Interesting that you put some really long wings on the f-104, and, with a bit of "Skunk Works" magic, a U-2 appears!
Great video, Piercarlo! Thanks for sharing. It was great to fly with you on the first day for the intercept over West Palm!
These pilots and their jets are incredible! Flying in their dream with them thanks to your videos & you tube!
The F-104 is still the most elegant plane that I have see during decades. Fast and Furious air version :D
Don't associate this classic, artistic jet with that vulgar and idiotic low-brow franchise. It's an insult. If this jet was "Fast and the Furious" it would have neon lights and giant chrome wheels and a magical "NOS" button that makes the jet go Mach 4 whenever the button is pushed. The whole FF franchise is full of stupid gimmicks and unrealistic fantasy aimed at adolescent boy's imaginations. They are all trick shots and ridiculous, impossible stunts and cars dressed up like cheap whores. The F-104 is a pure performer, straight and simple, with lines of classic beauty, and with an air of actual tragedy and heroism around it.
Grandeeeee 🤗🤗🤗🤗 Good Sound!!! Inconfondibile e Indimenticabile..
unmistakable and
unforgettable!
Fantastico video. Lo Spillone dopo più di 60 anni regala ancora fortissime emozioni.
50 years old and still breaking records
More than 50
BOTH are _BEAUTIFUL_ airplanes!
I read an article about some mock dog fights/war games involving F-4s vs F-104s. The F-4 Phantom pilots were amazed at the Starfighter's raw speed. But once they started maneuvering, the F-104s were toast. Lot's of gun camera angles up the F-104's tails.
Very true....F104 not designed for dog fight.
@@PiercarloCiacchi a flight of 2 could turn with the Best of them!😉
Both beautiful airframes.
ma che MERAVIGLIA!!! Grazie !!!
*Gorgeous* F-104!!... just amazed that parts and service still available for that monster J-79 powerplant. Keep 'em flying!
Thanks for showing the gauges. great video
Great video! Excellent air-to-air photography, and outstanding formation discipline and airmanship! I retired from KSC after 43 years in 2009, and prior to 9/11 used to get permission to overfly the SLF when I had friends or relatives in town. They thought that was the neatest thing imaginable even though we were restricted to 500 feet above the runway. I'm glad to see NASA has realized the utility of the SLF and partnered with other entities since the end of our Shuttle program. It's a one of a kind facility and deserves to be utilized.
did you see challenger in '86?
that is pretty cool. You captured the sunball at 06:45 during the formation turn ! Very nice
Meanwhile, the TCAS on the 650 goes into meltdown! Seriously, two extremely sexy aircraft there.
I like the paint job on the F-104. The other jet even though I don't follow those kind of plains, looks nice. Good video, thanks for sharing, I enjoyed watching.
It can't get any better! Wow!
Wonderful skills, beautiful jet too. Well done 👍🏼😊
I loved the part with the guys in the 650 geeking out about the Starfighter and wanting to swap videos
Funny to find this Video .. I remember when you made this flight as you were right over my house a couple of times .....Good job and great Video
Thank to your videos & you tube ,For me this is a one of a kind facility and worth using.
Nice video man!
Always loved the shows as a child and young adult at tico airshow. The Starfighter was my favorite. Holy cow. The howl
The growl of the engine spooling @08:40 from the F-104 always gets me. I love that sound!
That was a excellent video, I think the F104 was one of those aircraft that was ahead of its time, if you ever need a back seat helper, I will put my hand up. best regards from Australia.
I can’t wait to get my hands on that 650! What a beautiful aircraft. This Qatar registry looked very elegant.
Lovely! Grazie!!!
Che esperienza fantastica , vedere il 104 ancora in volo è bellissimo...
Sicuramente l'avionica sarà stata completata con strumenti di nuova concezione
Asa-m ex Ami
Wow! Fantastic jets . Starfighter still flying is a thing of beauty. Gulfstream is too gorgeous for words...😊👏👏
I remember watching the Canadian 104’s at Cold Lake air base as a kid. Awesome machine.
That was incredible!
How could anyone give this video a thumbs down? Dear me...
That camera on the right side is money. It's cool watching you fly and see the engine rpm gage move with the throttle. I could watch that all day. You sir are so lucky getting to fly a classic like the F104. Keep making those videos.
Damn. Love “stick and rudder” supersonic jets
*You Win THIS TIME,* _Algorithm_
Incredible that the F104 still holds records .
Not that incredible. The M.C72 floatplane from the 1930s is still the fastest seaplane ever built. Because no one ever bothered to top it. Pretty much the same with the F-104. Afterwards there wasn't much need to go faster or climb faster (although the F-15 and F-22 and co. do in most categories). When the F-104 was built they needed to get the jet up and in attack position fast, since that was the only way to shoot the bombers down. Afterwards they started designing long range AA and SA missiles, and the need was reduced. Many later jets passed in incidentally in some areas, but no one was trying to built jets just to climb as quickly and fly as fast as possible anymore. So the F-104 has managed to keep a few records...because no one was really trying to beat them. Only militaries developing new combat aircraft have the kinds of funds needed to push a high-performance aircraft design project through, and if the military doesn't need speed and climb as the primary parameter any more, the jets the do built will be designed to other requirements. The military doesn't want manned missiles, and no one else can afford to build them. So here we are.
The F104 is the sexiest plane in the sky! I remember them at Homestead AFB when I was a kid. I was able to go out amongst them sometimes. Total thrill.
Good paint on the 104. Nice.
Lucky man flying the Starfighter ! 👍
Clean looking cockpit. Great looking 104!
Yes, the panel was not designed to dazzle the onlookers.
The guy flying the Starfighter called another airplane sexy! It was interesting when they had to break off because they got too slow at 180 kts. To make the point, he got the stick shaker at 7:30 on landing.
I'd give both my nuts to pilot an F-104! Heck a solid ride in one would be a dream come true!
I’d give that and both of my kidneys to get a ride in one of them! XD
Two comments here:
1. The F-104 was a Stone-Cold MONSTER as a high-speed, high-altitude interceptor (which is what it was designed for) - NOTHING like it until the F-15 was developed in USAF inventory (the MiG-25 was close, except that pig was worse than the F-4 Phantom II for maneuverability). However, the West German Luftwaffe HATED the F-104 - called it the "Widowmaker - because they were forced to use it as a Ground-Attack fighter-bomber, which it was NEVER intended for.
2. That stick-shaker at landing resulted because the bird had to damn-near stall to get slow enough to land without a drag 'chute or arrester hook, which I didn't see. The bird was just so clean, and ahd such tiny wings, that it had a screaming fast approach and stall speed.
畫質真棒看了真舒服
Pier, there are some serious avionics upgrades in that Zipper. I have met Rick "Komrade" Svetkoff and Tom "Sharkbait" Delashaw (RIP) was a good friend of my dad's. They flew the 104 together during their AF careers.
Great stuff!!
Grazie Piercarlo, mi son commosso. Un mito intramontabile il Chiodo e a te sta strana malattia di volarci sopra proprio non te passa eh? Un salutone dall'italia!
Absolutely beautiful birds!
Cool shot of the space shuttle at 9:11
Iconic fighter!
Beautiful...
Strange as it may:I saw one of the first post-deployment flight of F-104R in 1956. (Photo-recon flight over Hungary during the revolution)
Guess no Russian MiG then could catch it, huh? At Army National Guard Camp Robinson, Arkansas there is an old star fighter sitting there on static display. She has not been cared for like she deserves...
Russian MiGs were sitting on the ground during the Hungarian revolution. A very few helos flew with red stars, mostly VIP-transports to avoid having to use public roads. The rebels did not really have any anti-air capacities nor readyness. One Mi-4 was even mistaken by the folks as bringing the UN Secretary /I think it was Hammarskjöld/...but he was busy elsewhere. BTW: By last days of 1956 a limited-distribution, semi-secret Hungarian periodical of the army already reported a page-lon (incl. head-on photo) of the Starfighter. And as one result of this "visit"...Hungary received shortly some MiG-21 P13-s. /by April 4 1957 those appeared on the parade/. Until then the fastest interceptor they had were MiG-19 and Yak-25-s.
Reminds me of Lute Eldridge Lockheed F-104 test pilot in the 60’s in Germany and UK!
Personal friend.
In early 1965 we took a composite air strike force of F104s from George Air Force Base Ca to Danang AB Vietnam for a six month rotation. I believe that was the only time they were deployed to Vietnam. After fifty plus years, it still looks like a hot bird to me!
Yes sir! A year later they were in Thailand for about a year.
Professional flying! The 104 is simply sexy!
Too slow compared with UFO pliots
belle vidéo !! very nice
Incredible Aircraft.
Love all your videos. You've change paint scemes and serial numbers several times on these 104s. I worked on one of your two-seaters when it was at Cold Lake, Alberta in the 60's. Can you tell us the "origianl" serial numbers and air forces for your 104s please. Thanks..
I can't get enough of the Starfigther. 🤙💓
Ciao Piero, che piacere rivederti, ed ancora a cavallo del mitico spillone! Sembra quasi di essere ancora in quel di Trapani..a restaurare la motoape coni colori del Diciottesimo...Hugs from italy.
Ma grande Dario!! Un abbraccione!!! Che spettacolo!
Best job ever!
Sei un grande !
That was a close formation indeed. :)
Definitely always a PAC off takeoff!!! Great Stull gentleman
Re the remarks of the F-104 being the base for the U2. Maybe true to some extent but it's the wing that makes the aircraft not the "sexy" fuselage------attractive as that is ! !
Fantastico video! Vedere volare ancora il TF-104 mi riempie di emozioni. Ciao Piercarlo! Sono Roberto Saito, l'attuale presidente del 115' Club Frecce Tricolori di Gorizia. Ci siamo incontrati ad una cena del nostro Club, da Turri, a Gorizia, una decina di anni fa, quando era presidente Martina Bevilacqua, tuo padre faceva parte del nostro Club! Avevi scritto un po' di dediche sui poster delle Frecce, per i bambini, tra cui mio figlio Nicola, che adesso ha 19 anni! Seguo sempre molto volentieri i tuoi video.
47000 pounds per hour or 7014.92 gallons
All I can say is someone give this Gentleman a SR-71! Thank you!!
Let's do it!!
bravo Pier
Grande CIACHI complimenti.
Wow it is so cool!!
Incrível escolta.
Beautiful Jet - F-104
This audio is Top Notch.
My grandfather flew a bunch of jets in the USAF, including the Streak Eagle, but the 104 was his favorite.
I doubt he flew the Streak Eagle. There was only one of those ever built, a special stripped down version of the F-15 meant to take back the world speed and climb record from the Soviets. It was never a normal operational aircraft, and it went right to the museum not long after they broke the records. Not much point in keeping it around, since it was useless for operational duty and was a famous plane now. You probably mean either the normal F-15 Eagle, or the F-15E _Strike_ Eagle, the later strike version of the plane. Either that our your grandfather was a big muckity muck, but I find that hard to believe.
I thought for years that my grandfather served on "Heavenly Bodies", the B-25 that is now on display in the Smithsonian. I told all kinds of people about it. I asked him about it years later, and he was like 'no, no, it was just a regular B-25" (although it was a solid-nose gunship version). He took me into his office when I was a kid, because he heard I liked military aircraft and history, and he showed me a print he had hanging on his wall, showing the Smithsonian's "Heavenly Bodies". He said "that was my plane, the one I served on in WWII". I assumed that he meant THAT particular plane was his, and when I later saw the same plane in the museum, I was very excited. Turns out he just meant that TYPE of plane was his. I should have known better, but I was young and foolish.
Very cool 👍
Love the helmet and I swore I saw a Dynon Skyview, ha! If so thats just as cool as the flight! Experimental is the only way to fly!
Legend
Alright! very cool footage! were you in the 104?
Wonderful video! What is the function of that opening/closing panel at 11:54?
Favoloso il 104 !!! Manca il sibilo e la scia ...bei ricordi di quando ero bambino e sognavo di pilotarlo
Wow you can really see the connection with the u2 design in the thumbnail pic.
Yep its clear where they got the U2's shape from it from it - just stretch the wings. F-104 could zoom to 103kft. Some special versions, JF-104 and NF-104 went up to 120kft.
Nice video
A F-104 as chase ship is as classy as it gets.
Grazie Comandante.Grazie per condividere con noi l'emozione di vedere ancora in azione il cacciatore di stelle..una curiosità,era il G ex AMI?
Si Ex Grosseto! uno dei 3 che abbiamo qui in Florida.
What is the rectangular opening on the top of the fuselage just in front of the tail on the f-104 ? It is indeed a damn sexy jet, something out of "Captain Midnight" (the vey old TV series). Ha ha, that really dates me!
Hey, yes, so that spring loaded panel is one of a few around the engine compartment...they open automatically when the speed is less than some 300 KIAS...because of the lower pressure in the engine compartment. Those allow extra cooling at lower speeds.
I'd give "almost anything" to fly in the backseat of the F104!
we're two.
You can go for a backseat flight with their company.