ULTIMATE HYBRID? 2023 Toyota Prius Prime Plug In Hybrid Review
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2023
- 2023 Toyota Prius Prime review by The Straight Pipes. The 2023 Toyota Prius Prime is putting down 220 horsepower from a 2.0L 4 Cyl Gas engine with an electric motor. At $46,990 CAD, would you take it over a Toyota Rav4 Prime?
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I have put my name on a list at the local Toyota dealership for when the new Prius Prime comes in.
Watching your video now raises two concerns. This nonsense about subscriptions will need to be looked at closely. The second thing is the car watching the driver's eyes for "inattention." That is a deal breaker if the system can't be omitted or, at the very least, deactivated.
I'm waiting for the GRMN version 😉
@@pauld6967 Hey Paul, Iv'e worked on some earlier toyotas with similar features and they can usually be deactivated or the sensitivity reduced. However check with your dealer in case government regulations prevent this on newer cars
@@justmechanicthings I will. I am still waiting to hear from the salesman that they have one for me to look at/test drive.
Looks like Akio Toyoda's "no more boring cars" is coming to fruition. That's a Prius I wouldn't mind owning.
Toyodaaaaa!
better than a Tesla, you get 44 miles ev range for the daily commute, and you have 60+ mpg and 2 minute refueling for long range roadtrips. In a Tesla you need to recharge every 2-3 hours
Try any base model 3ed edition and you will buy any made after 2011, they don't require much service; Spark Plugs and breaks will need service around 100,000 miles, also all fluids will need to be serviced somewhere around 60,000-100,000 miles, you can always send samples of fluids into a laboratory for testing, finally don't forget to change your Synthetic oil and filter every 5,000 mile...
They're slowly getting the number of exciting cars in the lineup higher. Plus I think they fired the designers a few years ago. They shoulda fired them 15 years ago. I couldn't imagine anyone saying they love the Prius design. Now I have to say I find it attractive too... Plus it's a lot faster.
I'm thinking this will sell well even despite declining small cars sales. It looks good, is functional, reliable and fun to drive.
It'd sell better if they actually made enough to meet demand 🙄. I swear they're gone before they arrive on the lot right now.
Can you really consider it a small car? Maybe in the US, but here in Europe it's more of a mid size car.
@@P4LL3R it's small, lol. Everything here is like truckdor the chonkinator size. I feel like I'm in a clown car when I'm in my C6.
What makes it fun to drive? It's a very pedestrian little sedan.
It's actually a bigger car than the older Prius.
A Prius so stylish that I'd actually consider buying one!
It's not stylish. It's just that every other car out there is so butt ugly our standards have fallen.
@@paul562 The Prius still looks like a Prius. A wedge. They called it a wedge in this video. I'm telling you, new cars have gotten so ugly (KIA, Hyundai especially). The Prius didn't change much. Everyone else did.
@@V8Brah eh the Gen 5 Prius looks far better than any of the previous generations
@@V8Brah I definitely agree with you about Hyundai/Kia, but the Prius didn't change much? It appears to have change a lot.
@@V8Brah Tesla Model 3 compared to this looks like crap.
Finally, a Prius I won’t be ashamed to drive.
This thing looks pretty sweet
Still a Prius still a shitbox
😆
Yeah…the music makes it so much more desirable…yeah…
Yeeeess!!
I have one of the non prime models (XLE) and I regularly get 55+ MPG. I’ve seen 65 MPG on short city drives
You bought the new Prius? If so was there any markup?
For reals any mark up ?
@@andymartinez1426 Nearby dealer in California told me 10k markup... got a mazda cx-5 carbon edition instead
@@TheAquaticCraft no way that sucks
The hilarious thing is I'm back home in Europe right now, have a diesel BMW 1 and am averaging around 4.7l/100km, which is 50mpg. And that's not a hybrid. So efficiency is possible.
this car is a game changer. the 40 mile commute is around the average commute in the US and with gas you don’t have to worry about battery
Chevy volt has entered the chat....
@@peoplesactionsnottheirword8760 Dumbest thing GM has done in the past 5 years was to cancel the Volt. It needed a redesign that would bring it's cost down a bit. It's one of the best plug in hybrids made, with hardly anyone beating it's all EV range and it's unique powertrain system.
Second dumbest thing GM has done was canceling the Bolt, the Volt's replacement that was the best selling EV in America outside of Tesla. GM just likes to kill good things.
Love my volt.
@@TheLightypantsTotally agree, I nearly bought one and was shocked when they got rid of it. I still like the Gen 1 look, don’t like the Gen 2. Not sure how the batteries degraded over time maybe I’ll look for one
@@douglarsen4801 I've got a 2018 Volt and the battery still holds up. I can get over 50 miles on it during Spring and early Fall. Between 40-50 in the Summer and Winter. I'd guess my yearly average MPG is around 100 by driving around 75 miles a day.
The solar roof is cool if anything because you could park it at the airport of for long periods of time without being plugged in and not worry about battery loss over time. In a week long trip at the airport you might come back with 10-20 extra miles which is pretty neat.
Teslas usally die if you leave them in an airport unplugged, this is way better than neat. Imagine rushing to the airport with near zero left in the tank and coming back with enough to make it to a gas station, so you don't need to waste time refueling before your flight
Only works when car is on
@@ambivertical no, it only show you how much power it get when it is on but still absorbing sun light and charge your battery while car is off.
@@merrichoang6858 really? Hard to believe
@ambivertical it said in the brochure that you gain X amount of kw after X hours of parking. Common sense, people don't leave car running while park. When the car is running, the solar power is powering the accessories so it take less car energy to make it more efficient.
I'm not totally sold on full EVs yet but this would be something I'd consider. Actually a nice looking car and great fuel economy.
Hybrids are garbage. stay gas or go electric, this stop gap to meet EPA requirements is a joke. Double the complexity too
@@MaxCaud What are you talking about? They have almost 2x the range of EVs, and an infinitely more convenient fuelling experience. Priuses have been around since the late 90s and are proven to be highly reliable. Best of both worlds and the perfect transition vehicles to a low-carbon future.
Yeah I’m waiting a couple more years till I get an EV. I want more options as well as more mileage/faster charging. However as mentioned, the most common problem is lack of charging ports. Even tho I’m from a big city, there’s a ton of electric cars that most of the charging ports are taken.
@@MaxCaud I have gone electric and I completely disagree with this. There are people that aren't tech savvy enough and can't charge at home to go fully electric, or live in a city surrounded by terrible charging infrastructure. Prius are also very reliable, I know someone that bought the original, kept it 19 years and only got rid of it because the 2020 model had an AWD option and he wanted a newer car
@@MaxCaud have you seen the 918 Spyder?
Great video you guys! Toyota absolutely knocked it out of the park with this new generation. Stunning design. And that can't be said about the average new vehicle!
LOVE the solar roof. As a college student who drives twice a week about 10 miles, that would mean I wouldn’t have to refuel for months on end.
WTF....do you even have a car for?
@@joesmith9216 Still need a car for shopping, going on dates, etc. I try to walk/bike as much as possible
@@ZircoBen Oh yeah, I agree. But you said you drive twice a week, my advice to you though is to make sure you have a car depending on where you live, if it's a major city, you need a car because all major cities are dangerous now, you can't be on foot.
@@ZircoBen sounds like you should just use car sharing services instead
@@davidyang9902 agree, ot just sell the car and go to Europe or something
The new Prius has been getting a lot of love in the car magazines I subscribe to, but I'm much more interested in hearing The Straight Pipes' take on it! Let's go!
We've got a 2013 (Gen 3) Prius with 227,000 miles that we've had for 7 years. Great car. Extremely reliable.
It's a Toyota.
They last forever.
Wow I agree about the armrest and gauge cluster position. Damn. That's why I like these reviews because you get the genuine takes on even the little things, and it's the little things that matter. That armrest is a deal breaker for me.
I had a Subaru Solterra for a rental but it has the same gauge cluster. It's horrendous. You cannot see the gauges at all while driving in any normal, comfortable position. Deal breaker for me.
Wow for a Prius it actually looks good for once! I was never a huge fan of the car but this is a really nice change
Yuri is an expert in reach arounds.
Best looking Prius ever. Actually futuristic in a cool way. Love the direction.
Looks sharper than a Tesla or Ioniq for sure.
The bickering is 10/10 on this one hahah. Love y'all!
haha the comments about the cup holders is so true! and your POV driving is spot on!
I saw the 2023 at the LA Auto Show late last year and really liked it. I was completely surprised because I thought they were going to discontinue the Prius. I own a 2004 Prius I bought new and was ready to pull the trigger on an Ioniq 5 in Cyber Gray, but in LA they are still selling for several thousand dollars over sticker. But after seeing the new Prius I changed my mind and will buy the new Prime version instead. The Toyota dealership where I put down the deposit has a policy of not charging over MSRP.
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My biggest issue with hybrid was most things with good fuel economy is low hp fwd which does not meet my needs, but anything higher power and awd will end up with a big car that used to get 18mpg and now 25mpg which isn’t great either. This is perfect, 200hp awd 50mpg.
It's crazy how long it took cars to adopt the solar roof. I remember the fisker karma having one and that came out 15 years ago.
The development of solar cell technology has improved a lot in the last decade and is now being sold as a feasible charging supplement for the car and is almost a perfect blend of functionality with gimmicks. It'll be interesting to see where the integration of solar cell batteries with automobiles will go in the next few decades
Local Toyota dealer said:” If you ordered one now, you can get it in 2028!” Nice job Toyota!
Sometimes I think I'm a nitwit thinkin the big car makers are conspiring against billions of customers since these brands (inc toyota) could spit out millions of cars that easily last 30yrs & runs on either of 2 fuel options (for customer choice and national security measures) … and then I hear of comments like yours. YEAH THE CAR INDUSTRY IS AND WILL ALWAYS B A SH?.T SHOW. 😡
I think so
Yeah, or maybe 2030
Haha Toyotoa wont even be around then.
@@peternystrom921 Um, they are an asian company, they will be around.
I never thought I wanted a Prius so much! Well done Toyota! Well done!
the exterior design of this thing is 🔥
I legitimately want one of these. It's a little expensive, but it looks good, gets good gas mileage and isn't painfully slow like the old Prius. What more could you want in a daily?
I feel the same, but dealer markups will kill any value.
@Paul 40mpg vs 54mpg in the prius, but the ability to almost never have to use gas is pretty nice
@Paul not everybody wants a crossover
@Paul Not even close to the same mpg.
Looks good? Lol...
Love the wedge design!
Great review! I'm excited to see this. Certainly an attractive car with great specs! You mentioned briefly about tires on this Prius Prime. That's one thing I'm concerned about - the wheel/tire dimensions seem a bit odd - large rims with very narrow tires. Most tire rim size I can find with 195mm tire width are 14" or 15" rims, but these are at least 17"; and for 17"-19" rim size, the width for most tires are at least 205-215mm. So would I have trouble finding the right size winter tires? Even for all-seasons, would my choices be limited to stock only? If I get winter tires WITH rims, how far can I stray from the stock dimensions, e.g. if I have a Prius with 19" all-seasons, can I go down (in rim size) to a 195/50 R16 or go up (in width) to a 215/50 R18 winter tire?
The visor pocket is for parking stubs, it is very practical to stash it in the visor. Same as my Lexus.
What was ever wrong with the dashboard?
This is on my short list for suuuure. Looks great, killer gas mileage, and the electric only range would probably cover most of my commute anyway.
Just get a Honda Clarity PHEV. It’s the same car but by Honda.
The little slot in the visor is perfect for parking slips or toll road tickets.
I use the card slot in the visor to stash the toll card. In some places, you get a card when you enter the toll road and then that card is used to calculate your toll when it's time to pay.
Like all the stying and mechanical improvements. That almost horizontal rear window is going to need a wiper in the winter though!
I was fully ready to commit to preordering this car but as soon as I sat in one at the Toronto auto show I realized I couldn’t see the gauge cluster. It’s the same with the Solterra and Toyota’s version. 6 ft 2 inches for anyone wondering.
Same with most cars for me, at least some portion is cut off. I like the old Prius and Yaris with the center cluster more. Not to mention I miss REAL BUTTONS!
have u ever considered getting hit by an anvil so u can lose a few inches
I sat in a regular 2023 Prius and I had no problem. I'm 5'-11"
@@theexmann yeah three inches makes a big difference
@@theexmann thanks for your input
So happy you guys got this particular review out.
Thanks guys... I was waiting for you to post so i didnt watch amy other review 😊
🙏 watch them after tho
BTW, did you guys notice if the Prime had a slightly higher ground clearance than the regular Prius? I had read that the Prime would have a slightly higher clearance. Thanks.
Love it! 10 out of 10 Toyota!
I gotta say. The side profile reminds me of those 70's wedge concepts as a production car.
would have been interested in a baseline trim review! at this price point I think people will go elsewhere typically. keep up the good work fellas.
This is way better than our 2019 Prius Limited. Like it’s shocking honestly.
Is it better than your 1996 Chevrolet Impala SS?
@@concorde__ impossible!
the amount of hybrids growing on the roads looks to show Toyota's long term plan of favoring gas electric hybrids over pure EVs for the near future is panning out well
It's nice looking now and has a long range/fuel efficient. Seems perfect
I love this car!!
OMG!! "Double Reach Around" Ha ha ha ha 🤣
Yuri is the type of guy to be really passionate about hypermiling when he receives a Prius, but then gives up after feeling awkward when he inevitably holds up traffic.
Would you guys be able to do the new Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid?
Keep up the great work guys!
My first impressions from appearances alone is that it’s a huge improvement
my boss only drives like 4 miles round trip to work every day, he could technically only use the sun to charge it for his commute. which we have plenty of here in colorado
8km solar recharge would be about 20% of my daily commute. I can basically get 1 “free” driving day every week.
"Double-reach-around". I'm using that term from now on. Thank you!
We got a new Prius Prime Advanced back in 2017 and my only complaint is that it doesn't have enough miles per charge. Sure it gets what they said it would but why not at least 50 miles on the battery. Very nice car. Solid. Plenty of power. Comfortable, especially compared to our 2010 Prius which is a very good basic and reliable hybrid. I wish someone would come up with a Prius Prime kit that would do away with the gas motor and give it 300 miles range on a battery pack where there ICE resided. I'd pay 10 grand for that.
This thing is actually surprisingly SO COOL
Should make a Prius with the RAV4 prime powertrain
That would honestly be kinda badass
GR Prius
The tech in this car is insane! On my short list for a used pick whenever we need a car
I want this Prius. We don't have the infrastructure for EVs just yet. And this car is the perfect middle ground.
Good luck getting one. I’ve been on a waitlist for a RAV 4 prime for 6mo now. Dealer says it could be 6-12 more months. :/
Well by then, next years will be out
I got lucky and found a 2023 Rav4 prime. Someone originally ordered it and cancelled their reservation and I reserved it during its build phase. Took 2 weeks to come in from the time I reserved it. No markup. Great car so far!!
Yup, inventory levels are a joke. I hear they're improving, but not fast enough. I feel they're purposely keeping levels low to keep msrp up.
@Paul yes definitely. They originally had a $5k markup on it but I was able to negotiate it out. I did all negotiations over email. I found the Prime on CarGurus on a nationwide search. It did however take me several dealers to find one willing to drop the market adjustment. I took delivery on the 30th last month. Maybe they were motivated to move it to meet monthly quota.
You need to find a different dealership. The wait time for a RAV4 Prime is only 3 months.
Damn 4 Prius reviews in my feed all posted at the same time, I guess embargos just got lifted
We owned every generation of Prius,s plus the plug-in and Prime. Two inches lower is a deal breaker for us good bye Toyota. We bought a 2022 VW ID.4 and love it.
Only thing but I may have missed it. How much leg room for driver? I’m 6 ft 3 in and my 2010 rav4 driver seat doesn’t go back far enough for my legs to stretch.
Lowering springs/ coilovers and a new set of wheels would make this look absolutely amazing!!!
Yeah.....I suspect there will be a weird aftermarket tuning sub-culture for this like there was for the 'new' VW Beetle back in the late 90's. Cat-back exhausts all round!!
Lightweight 17s but slightly wider than factory
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 I want this car with 15 inch tires and thinner
@@PhaseSkater Yeah so you'd want it geared toward better fuel economy, and I'm assuming you mean 15 inch wheels, right? I'd also want smallest wheel diameter possible for lightest weight and best fuel economy, but also slightly wider tires for better cornering, since reviewers have mentioned the limitations in cornering with the 195/65s
It sucks that they are not offering that sick yellow color in North America. It's only available in Japan. Once I get my Prime, I might wrap it in a similar yellow. I usually go for dark rich colors, but there is something about the design of this car and yellow that really go well together.
re: "It sucks that they are not offering that sick yellow color in North America." no worries they're just not offering it the FIRST YEAR in 'Murica, but wait till the 2nd or 3rd years. because: Product Planning.
@@phillyphil1513 I probably would wrap it in yellow after a couple of years.
@theexmann yeah that's a good idea, could probably find a close match of that color in a wrap while protecting the original finish.
@@phillyphil1513 That's true. I didn't even think about the protection aspect regarding the original paint.
love the breakfast guest appearance at 7:20
The slot on the visor is actually for parking ramp tickets. Very usable feature!
I don’t get why they won’t sell these in the U.K! I’d drive this.
Apart from doctors, Uber drivers and vegans, no one bought the old Prius for it to be a viable vehicle
@@H.K_R Very true, but this looks so much better than the previous versions.
@@Chicken_Lips I know, Toyota UK has really dropped the ball on this occasion.
"I don't mind and ugly looking Prius."
"Yeah, I know. You have a Prowler."
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Savage!
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Your pic in the video is the 2nd gen Honda Insight, first one was that 2-door model from '99.
Basically a revived Chevy volt. Speaking of which you guys should review one. They were ahead of their time
I feel like the solar roof will be charged in 5 minutes in Florida 😂
Floridians park their prius under the sunlight then go catch alligator, come back, the battery is full no need for gas 🤣
You made some points I haven't read or seen anywhere else. Thanks.
Thanks
Awesome review, I've been eye balling this since the announcements! Heck, I can go to work AND BACK FOUR TIMES and there will still be charge left! Maybe not with the A/C or Heating blasting through....three times then :)
You’re EV reviews need to be on No Pipes.
No, YOU are EV reviews!
Hopefully the styling convinces owners to drive faster in the far left/passinglane 😂
Keep in mind, sometimes there is a left entry onto a highway and all the impatient drivers passing on the right make it impossible to move over. And LOL at the idiots honking and flashing their lights when I am getting ready to take a left exit. So much hate when I am in my Prius vs my F150 (which is FAR slower).
The only time a Prius is in the left lane is if there is a left exit coming up. I've never witnessed a slow Prius in the left lane. Plenty of slow ones in the right lane, but never the left. I have a feeling that some of the people who complain about slow Prius drivers are lead footed people who drive too fast in the middle lane and get mad that a Prius is in the middle lane doing ONLY five over the speed limit.
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 Yeah. I'll happily rib on/stereotype Prius drivers, but them sitting on the left lane going slow AF is not a common sin of theirs...
Yuri : "I dont mind ugly looking car.."
Jakub: "Yeah, you got the prowler.."
Whoa, shots fired! 😂
{the banter never gets old, youre the best guys!}
The card holder on the sun visor is useful for gate and toll cards.
It's supposed to work as a generator, (besides the 1500w per electric outlet), I'd like to see that in action like the F150 Powerboost.
The amount of time I’ve lost to Prius drivers in the left lane is incalculable
Ha ha, that blast off at the beginning🤣
I like how the car lock sound produces a B-Flat Major chord lol (I just know that because I'm a music major)
It looks awesome, and not just for a Prius
The first decent looking prius
I would love to have one, but every dealer within 250 miles of my home in NorCal has anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 markup on them (and most are still in transit). Saw an AWD Limited for $50,000 with the markup. Insane.
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The advanced hybrid technology is truly impressive. 🤩
Would love to see a comparison of a 2019 Chevrolet Volt Premier against this thing. Volt is still the range champion and charging speed champion. But this Prius is the nearest thing to a Volt successor.
The only bad part about the Volt is its MPG in hybrid mode. The gen 2 could only manage 42 MPG while the 1st gen was a little less than that. A Prius or Prius prime is 20 mpg higher in gas/hybrid mode.
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 agreed it's lower MPG, but in real world driving my Prius I had to drive extremely efficiently to get the mpg numbers promised. The Volts mpg as many owners know, as I do too, is quite understated and 42 mpg is easily attainable on a second gen at very high speeds. I have seen 60 mpg in hybrid mode driving similarly to my Prius. But agreed this Prius is still an achievement in looks, spaciousness and range. Spaciousness wise, this Prime soundly beats the Volt. No question of that.
@@matthewlibanio8227 Gotcha I didn't know the gen 2 Volt's real world mileage was that good. Good to know. I've actually done pretty well with a gen 3 Prius. Averaged 58 mpg with one, 55 with another, the latter having a noticeably worn out battery. Both of these are summer gas MPG numbers, winter being 3-4 mpg lower. In regards to the new Prime beating the gen 2 Volt overall, sure it does, though it's several years newer and not necessarily a "fair" comparison. It's too bad Chevy axed it and is under EV-only hypnosis now. I've always been an EV fan but the idea of mandating them for everyone is nuts.
Toyota really upper their design game with this generation of Prius!
Forget the frost. We got about 20 cm snow here in Thunder Bay Today
People in AZ, TX, NM, CA will love the roof solar panel.
Kind of looks like a modernized Dodge Dart… thanks for the review 🥂
the absolute deal breaker for me is the gauge cluster. when i sat in this car and positioned my seat and steering wheel, the gauge cluster was pretty much blocked from my view. I don't understand how toyota could allow such a dumb mistake
That’s what I’m saying - Jakub
On mine…raised the seat up, and steering wheel down👍see just fine 5’8”
Prob designed in Japan
Peugeot vibes 😂
Jakub - Did you notice a difference between the roof height getting in and out of the driver's seat between this and the previous gen? I have the previous gen Prius Prime, & I'm afraid this new one will be harder to get into because I'm super tall. Thoughts? Also, great vid as usual! Thanks!
I tested it at the Toronto Auto show, it is kind of tight (I'm 6'7")
@@mauriceetal1426 Thanks, Maurice! :)
Yuri, what would this look like with a lift kit and side cladding?
Such a great update on the exterior looks, in my opinion.
i personally think turn signal sounds should be annoying and intrusive so you always know if it's on or not. so many times i've seen a driver just go 5 miles with their left turn signal on
Just put down a $500 refundable deposit for a 2023 Prius Prime in the L.A. area. They couldn't tell me when they would arrive. I did get to look at the inside and outside of the 2023 Prius Limited edition. This dealership had about 8 in stock and they were all sold except for the one they where using to show customers. I have a 2004 Prius I bought new and this 2023 Prius feels very similar in some ways. Though I could immediately sense the lower roof line once I was inside the car, but the back seat had noticeably more space. And the car sits lower to the ground, but not drastically so compared to my Prius. I had no trouble with the driving position and the dash. I'm 5'-11" and had no problem seeing all of the dash in a comfortable driving position. The seats were more comfortable than my Prius.
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Prius Prime'da ki krom süsleme bizim TOGG'un makyajlanmış halinde değerlendirilmeli, çünkü segmentinde ürüne ''sükse'' katmada trend olmuş bir uygulama ve sanırım 2-3 sene sonra da 'trend' olarak geçerliliğini koruyacaktır, yani yarı ömrü ve devamında yerinde olacak gibi görünüyor.
Putting the volume knob on the opposite side of the infotainment is the dumbest thing ever. Would love to hear their reasoning for that.
Steering wheel 😊
we're gonna see this car doing 90kmh on the left lane of the highway
I love Priuses because they seem so practical, I just wish the gauges and things weren't so wonky. I just need a clearly visible speedo, maybe a tac and temperatures. How hard is that? Instead I have to flip through a dozen menus?
3:27 The blue circle logo at the trunk beside the “Prime” badge is actually Toyota’s “Beyond Zero” logo symbolizing its new gen of electric cars
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