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How Paper Rex Show Us The FUTURE OF VALORANT!
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Paper Rex have ALWAYS been the ahead of the meta and ahead by so much that they literally predict the future meta but by the time others catch on they have already moved ahead to the future
A perfect example was how forsaken used Yoru in 2022 on bind and only in 2023 we saw other teams like Tenz on Sen and Asuna on 100T play Yoru on Bind.
@@ragesggamingI perfect example of this being false was the breeze comp in Copenhagen finals
@gilgameshcicero8169They shit on nrg last year what in the fuck are you smoking?
can’t wait for absolutely NOBODY to apply this idea to the acent meta
Ascent and stifling creativity. Name a better duo
Bro cant wait till EDG nobody dominates the ascent meta
EDG nobody and Acend? were those puns intentional?
edg nobody
Everyone except prx who did try and change their comps
I agree with you. I thought the way PRX approached comp-building through the lens of strong util combos was genuinely inspiring. It was especially prominent on Bind, with their Reyna + Skye double flashes, Harbor creating gulag pockets for Reyna, even how they adapted Gekko into their comps/play styles.
This so good for the game in terms on keeping it from becoming a slug fest where everyone plays reactively. Instead we’re seeing a lot more thinking on the fly and more proactive play, it’s fast but still well thought out.
Agreed. Now that the game has been out for awhile and the top players have gotten so close in terms of mechanical skill a team really can’t relay on one star player like they used to. It really is becoming the team game we’ve wanted and not a one man show anymore.
I think you're right. And to be honest, seeing their Sunset comp from AfreecaTV and them making something play Gekko feels like they prepared really well for the Skye nerfs. Even in 2023 they had CGRS who is a Gekko main so they probably have good ideas of what Gekko is capable of and... their Tokyo run was with Gekko. It really feels like they're looking ahead in terms of meta. They started the Yoru on Bind on the international stage and now everybody else thinks "Wow Yoru is actually really good" and they're running him on multiple maps across the board.
That yoru flash fade haunt combo was sick!
teams just need to realize that playing to their strengths is way better than playing the meta. Optic ran chamber on every map despite him being mot meta on split, breeze, ascent, and haven. Loud played harbor viper on every map and no one could beat them on it. Fnatic played extremely default heavy comps that couldnt change tempo bc boaster was good at midrounding and they had really aware players that would win a lot of their dry fights. Prx created comps based on their aggression, the fact that jinggg could only play raze, and unusually high apm. If u think these players were just better youre wrong bc fut played kayo on every map bc they didnt have a good skye player and qualified for everything. Zeta put laz on chamber on won lcq. Edg has strats entirely based on attack oping. Even back in the day Drx used breach when no one else did bc they had the best breach in the world prob to this day. JUST PLAY FOR YOUR STRENGTHS GODDAMMIT
I like how you went on a passionate rant, and that it actually makes sense.
Agreed, make ur strenght as your main weapon
PRX be playing Skye and Win just to Mald TMV 😂😂
no they did not run skye on split like usual but they did run TRIPLE DUELIST AND WON 2 TIMES ON SPLIT (vs T1, GENG) they just replaced forsaken's skye to yoru bro wth 🤣🤣🤣
DUDE I JUST met your channel and I am in love with it! I like so much this kinda content and the others analyzing Comp games, keep working on it!
Paper Rex always been ahead of the meta, until Sentinels start thinking they’re hot shit and claim Tenz is the one forming the new meta
Edit: PRX Forsaken is the first one to pioneer Yoru meta on bind but Sentinels made a vid saying it’s Tenz who pioneered the meta and how he’s changing the game
I mean that's how EG were undefeated on fracture, they had sick combinations with their utility and ults
I totally agree with the whole “maximize your strengths.” I’ve been trying to tell my friends when we 5 stack that we shouldn’t care abt the things we are bad at, just do what we do well really well. I’m bad at aiming but am pretty aware of how to utilize my util fully. So I stay alive and use my util to provide advantageous fights for my team rather than try to take duels all the time. Some might consider it baiting but I’m just trying to maximize my use. The truth is my aim is so bad that it’s worse for me to try to take duels than to just use util and push last so that my team has my util the whole round.
yea but if you do want to rank up you have to inprove your aim. theres no use having good util when you cant have a 50/50 fight that is actually 50/50. Hear me out, lets say you brought the odds to 80% in your favour due to your good util, you still have to win the fight.
@@mqegg well yeah, obviously, but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that unless I have a stupendous advantage, I will not take a fight unless needed like pushing in with a player disadvantage. I play duelist prob once every blue moon
Love what ur cookin here but in general I think the philosophy of Duelist Initiator Controller Sentinel and a Flex (who might be initiating or controlling or another duelist) still works with this “focus on util combos” type of thought process, in fact I think structurally it helps make those combos more obvious
Maybe I’m faded tho
I just want PRX to use more Gekko so I can learn some pro Gekko strats!
I'm sure they will, something plays a lot of gekko in ranked
With the Skye nerf I’d expect to see either fade or gekko get a lot of play, they can both gather util, both have “drones”, both have strong util that can debuff/gather intel, and can combo well with good duelists. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see PRX running gekko or fade a lot soon
Something playing gekko on sunset.
i'm watching somethings gekko and i learned lot from him
Boostio had some crazy lineups on bind
this is why we love PRX. the on the spot stuff is sooo coooolll.
TMV analyzing a force round from Acend to show that they're decent. What a lad!
prx has always had a very very strong flash combo entry they understand which parts of the map are zoned out through their utlis what i noticed is when in a recon meta eg. sova/fade theyve yet to set up strong utli for that kind of entry curious to see if d4vai can use fade more effectively this season considering the skye nerfs are pretty damning
sliggy has been singing the praises of reyna for quite some time for this exact reason. there’s ways that you can make use of weird agents if you combo them with others on the fly, which i think is really refreshing because it negates the need for as structured of a game plan as some teams think is needed
Its time for Yoru to shine my brothers, the age of teamplay is here!
I agree with your analysis and that valorant is trending in that direction at least on the pro level. I just don’t know if I’ll like it in the long term because if players become too reliant on utility, midrounding will get dull quickly once teams get countered or ruin their util executes
I think it is idyllic in the sense that I can't really see all teams shifting their philosophy away from a more simplistic game however as the years go by and the game evolves, teams will eventually have to change whether they like it or not if they want to remain competitive. Now does that mean a shift towards the philosophy mentioned in the video? Maybe, maybe not. I think there is a high likelihood but who knows.
very true, part of the reason valorant is so boring in high ranked compared to unrated is where you get to see this utility combos that work well, but you never get to see in pro play. maybe the casuals have been onto something for a long time 😂. i am tired of sova jett kayo omen cypher/kj. just make a comp that’s good at one thing (beating that comp) then play to its strengths.
When I thought of the start of Valorant where it was called counter-strike with abilities this was the kind of stuff that first came to mind! I was thinking of the teamplays from MOBAs like LoL and Dota. I personally would enjoy this kind of game but I don't know if everyone agrees.
i love it when i actually understand the people passionately screaming in these clips lol
The silvers and bronzes have been already doing this for a long time (at least in asia servers), all because they have bad aim. I guess now people with good aim are trying it
Don't underestimate asian low elo player their aim is better than average low elo or even gold eu and na
I still cant believe you have not made video about Diamant playing Omen and Astra on few maps(VCL surge east0
Tbh it will happen at some point, to me the way u are seeing this is giving me a bit of CSGO vibes, where there was a lot of aim at the start of that game but after astralis and the way they revolutionized that game teams started using more utility combos, I think at some point paper rex will be that astralis team, doing absolute combos and dominate and then pro teams will start to combo util more and more
i think you are right.. but imo its gonna be slow, and only really a thing for the top teams for quite some time.
Its a more risky way to approach the game, and takes real trust in your team mates to pull off consistently, but yields great rewards if you can pull it off. Weaker teams wont adopt it for a long time because they wont have the coordination to pull it off, plus it reduces the safety afforded by your playbook.
PRX is enough of a proof that SEA is still one of the best servers with crazy talents in Valorant
Let's see what they're cooking in 2024 tourney
Hey @thinkingmansValo As a college coach for Valo i've been espousing this exact thing since Lock In last year. I think Fanatic and Mini had an especially good understanding of this. And I think if you watch how Potter coached EG, a lot of her impact and some of the comments she made I think were directly referencing this. I think you have a great call out with how PRX commit to the idea with their entire comp. Where I think you see FNC and EG use very meta comps but design all of their interaction on this idea. I think where you see the development of the game is in the marrying and polishing of these ideas.
Look at this in comparison to how some CS2 games start. A lot of util thrown at the beginning of the round to define map space, while its not a direct correlation because of the nature of the util I think this idea is the mature evolution of these two concepts coming together. Beyond that when you can start defining the value you can get out of certain combos the economics become even more exploitable. Thanks for all great content man
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I think the orgs are just playing it safe financially. If they copy half of one of fnatics slow ascent defaults then they will have a 50% wr, stay in the league, keep getting paid, and not have to spent too much on players.
The randoms in my game need to watch this video
Paper rex just reminds me of an era when in CS astralis is the only pro team
This is I think would the difference between Valorant and CS pro. There are arguably infinite amounts of combos if they keep adding agents and maps.
Brotha your content is really good, but you should definitely invest in a better camera at this point, bump up the production value and it'll feel just like a vct analyst segment. keep it up!
If this is true then deadlock will be meta, insane combo potential on her kit
Alecks big brain
amem brother
cant wait til valorant gets goats 😍😍
In 2022, I think all of this combo stuff got negated by Chamber, hence the lack of these types of plays. DRX had been like this from the start
Im all for it..
not cope at all, i wholly agree. synergy and creativity is going to be the name of the game in the long run. Valorant by nature is a heavily team based tactical shooter, and although people have gotten super good at the shooting part, the team part still has a lot to explore. The division of skills and abilities amongst individual agents is foundational to the game, and the efficient and speedy uniting of those skills and abilities on a team scale is the ultimate advancement.
Valid
Utility usage and team coordination taking precedent over individual mechanical skill?
Is . . . is Valorant about to have its Overwatch GOATs phase?
you can always improve your mechanics, csgo is about perfecting that aspect I think
Actually this is kinda was inevitable right? I mean you watch CS:GO it took astralis so many years to make molly flash smoke lineups that were basically gamebreaking and won them rounds they shouldnt have. Its the evolving of teams rather than meta imo, as the more a team experiments the better the results and who better to quote as examples to experimentation none other PRX.
PRX doesn't show the future valorant, PRX is the future valorant itself
I really hope you are correct.
um. sir, did you say nobody set themselves apart mechanically this year like yay did last year?
Demon1 would like to speak with you. he did what yay did without the chamber meta. he's arguably a class apart as a brim player getting those many kiils in fracture, or astra in some other maps.
Yeah, like something steamrolling LOUD in lotus? Or like Aspas almost destroy PRX in the first half of pearl? Or Alfajer, Less, or basically everyone else? You can argue that one player is above the rest, but in reality everyone watching knows that everyone is amazing mechanically...
That's why, the meta is shifting to util focused. When everyone is mechanically gifted, then no one is. Heck, that's why alecks been forcing something to use Gecko, to train his util usage and cooks up new meta.
It'll just become siege then.
I dont think prx will win vct madrid and shanghai but vct champion will be prx
So... basically.....you are saying....that maybe....maybe....VALORANT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED LIKE CS? Is that what you are implying??? Is it?? Gee I sure hope that's what it is...
He means that teams shouldn’t play with the usual meta comps. Exploring other comps where they are able to gain significant advantages on certain areas but also get probably significant disadvantages on certain areas too
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Good luck trying to convince these boring ass pro teams TMV 😂
PLEASE get a better camera, I hate to be that annoying person but I'd love to not look at a 15fps video feed, show me your face in actual 60fps tyvm
Always love the videos otherwise,
“Ugh its 480p it’s unwatchable” 🤡🤡
I am going back to this comment section after they don’t qualify for masters 😂😂😂
I think if PRX don't qualify, TMV might like it cuz it means the other team have improved.
PRX was always shitt and will be , keep coping copium lmao
Go clean your streets please
Come to asian server u get rekted easily
Honestly PRX is kinda mid without Jinggg ngl but as long they can give me entertain playstyle. I dont mind watching them
I'll have to see it to belive it 👀