Why the post Jurgen Klopp era may bring some BIG problems to Liverpool 🍿 | ESPN FC
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- On ESPN FC, Nedum Onuoha, Mark Ogden, Steve Nicol and Ale Moreno join Dan Thomas to talk in-depth about Liverpool when Jurgen Klopp leaves Anfield this summer.
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Never have i loved a manger so much. Thank you Klopp
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Which kop not like him ? 😂
indeed
Michael Edward's will show his worth as he has done before regardless who replaces klopp. It was a master stroke by fsg getting him back on board because he is exceptional at what he does
Nothing but respect for the manager and what he has done with LFC. What he said at his first interview he has delivered everything and over achieved😢🎉🎉🎉
As a Liverpool fan, it's a huge blow for us fans that Klopp is leaving, but its his choice and we have to accept it and thank him for the unbelievable journey. I was worried mmediately after the news what would happen, but recently when Michael Edwards accepted to return as CEO of all football activities and re-structure of the club has began quickly, I'm kinda more relaxed. Michael Edwards is one of the key figures of Klopp's era success and recruited the likes of Robertson, Salah, Van Dijk, Fabinho, Alisson, Konate, etc., and even Klopp himself to Liverpool.
The club is in very healthy state, with so many young prospect and young players. It would be great if we manage to keep all key players in the club and if we buy CB, CDM and right winger, it would be fantastic.
He is leaving a quality team behind? Much younger team an energetic midfield? Maybe a transition season next season? But no fall off like man utd after ferguson!
Klopp has been to 3 UCL finals with Liverpool. This is so wrong!
Real madrid owned them twice
@@davididehen2505 Bollocks they did. Ramos was a dirty c*nt on Salah, and Karius basically handed them (literally) one of the finals. The last final Courtois pulled off a once in a career performance just to keep Liverpool out. Owned? Behave yourself. Now, 5-0 over two legs? That's "owned".
@@davididehen2505 hardly owned. don't be foolish
@@davididehen2505Real was just lucky, lucky as f...k.
No they just wrote the stats idiotically, I also thought that at first
While Bayern and Liverpool fight it out over Xabi, United are fighting it out with absolutely no one to hire a manager who got his last club team relegated and is perpetually underachieving with the most talented English squad ever.
Southgate is the media’s darling. They are doing all they can to get him to United. No real fan wants him at the club.
Sorry mate. What's this statement based on. We need to stop giving energy to Southgate to united nonsense. Did you or anybody read a statement directly coming Manchester United Football Club saying they are entertaining Gareth Southgate's appointment as a head coach.
Please stop giving energy to these media nonsense. Keep your composure until you hear something from the club or a reliable source goddammit
Southgate better than Ten Hag anyway it's a hard choice
You're right Steve, I don't know what makes these guys think Liverpool will collapse after Klopp. Comparing Liverpool with Manchester United is absurd, these are two different clubs with different philosophy
So much ignorance being spewed here.
The Gerrard era was under Hicks and Gillette - hands down the most incompetent owners the Premier League has ever seen, and hopefully will ever see. They single-handedly took the most successful club in Britain to the brink of administration. That time under H & G is completely irrelevant to the club now. After that, FSG came in, and that is how you know exactly what a Klopp-less Liverpool will look like behind the scenes. FSG's first piece of business was to get the club financially secure. Then they brought in a transfer strategy which was to get players just before they got to the standard that Liverpool needed to get to the next level by use of predictive analytics. It's a very clear structure and resilient structure that will be in place for the next manager, just as it was for Klopp. When you add to that all the talent that is clearly there to anyone with eyes - they have by far the strongest squad in the league - they've spent the last 4 or 5 months with at least half their team missing, and half their backups missing too, and they have just kept winning. They won a cup final with multiple youngsters who had never played senior football before this year.
When Ferguson left it was after a season where he sacrificed everything, including the good of the club, in order to scrape out a final trophy for himself. When Wenger went, results had not been good enough for years, and what he left behind was frankly not good enough. These weren't people handing over a club when it was in a rude state of health - they were handing over basket cases which still had expectations from fans and owners which were well above their stations.
If you want to find reasonable comparisons, go look for clubs who had a handover from one man to another when everything was working the way it is so supposed to. Man United and Arsenal will tell us absolutely nothing about what awaits Liverpool post Klopp.
Excellent analysis,only comparé what is comparable.Klopp is leaving behind something valuable on which the successor can build on and continue contrary to what Ferguson and Wenger left behind.This is good management.
Lets see how these younsters play without the use of inhalers. It will be more like last season when they lacked energy lol.
The squad will still be there. The players know each other. Theres not going to be an immediate exodus. Further more Liverpool have not recruited toxic personalities in the changeroom which makes a huge difference.
Yeah Moyes also inherited the same winning squad in 2013/2014 😂😂😂
How do you know? Salah will probably go, Trent might be sold. Virgil already said he'll see what happens and consider his future..
@@TerribleEnglish They will wait to see what plans the new manager has for them before they make any decisions about their future. Simple as. All news is just speculation and stirring of the pot. Its all B.S. news until the new manager comes in. Liverpool are not looking to sell anyone. And we are no longer a "Selling Club". Unless it suits our plan.
@@themaharaniscloset I don't agree that we're not a selling club. The fact is, we haven't had any offers for Salah, Virgil or Trent. I think FSG would sell them in a heartbeat.
@@TerribleEnglish I did not say that we won't sell. I said that we are not a selling club. Meaning that we will sell if it suits our plan. Age and value would be considered. If we can get them at their highest level for another 5 years. Its would not suit us to sell, but if we feel we're only going to get 2 more years of their prime, and we have to renew a 5 year contract to keep them. then it may make sense to sell. That said I trust in our policies, and their decisions are always for the best of the clubs sustainability.
Michael Edward's next coach needs to be spot on
One of the greatest managers ever who won one league in nine years 😂
How incredibly reductive of you. Idiot.
He's adored the world over ,is your manager ? Is he even liked by most of your fans ? I'm guessing no lol salty much?
@@shaundavidssd I’m not going to text anything bad to you because I know you’re probably a kid.👧
Shankley - Paisley - Fagen - Daglish all succeful one after the other.
As an LFC fan, I'm chilled about this.
Benitez didnt have a quarter of the resources as klopp and dominated europe and had us challenging for the PL. Liverpool will be fine. The most important thing is getting all teams adhering to FFP and city getting prosecuted for 10 years of cheating
That is the sad thing. And that goes for everywhere he had gone to. Even at Madrid he had to play with what he had. He never got the chance apart from Valencia, where he won the league with David Silva and David Villa. Wish we got to see Rafa with some cash.
Benitez was total flop at madrid
What are you smoking mate?
Zizou used the same squad at got three UCL in a row.
😂😂 condolences to Liverpool
@@rabikafle8 anchelotti 1st time, capello, pellegrini, lopetegui all flopped at madrid. Some of the best coaches in the world. Circumstance is important.
@@davidmurphy4814 yeah Ancelotti failed as he won Madrid the most awaited La Decima
Nice logic mate
Klopp has been amazing, but I have no doubt we're a very attractive club to top managers. Klopp already did the rebuild needed for our midfield. We have lots of talented kids coming through. There's plenty to build on and who knows the next manager could win us another title or two.
What’s going to happen to Liverpool after Jurgen Klopp leaves whether they continue competing for trophies or go downhill it depends on who their next manager is and what players are staying or leaving the club.
Jurgen Klopp has had a transformative impact at Liverpool and while it’s easy to bring up the fact that he’s won just 1 league title in 8 years, you can’t deny the greatness he’s achieved there. In 2015, they were realistically a mid table team and if anyone told you that 5 years later, they’d win the premier league and the champions league, you wouldn’t believe anyone and that’s what he delivered them. That’s an incredible achievement them winning the champions league in 2019, and they won the premier league in 2020 which was their first league title in decades and more importantly, without them Manchester City would have 6 premier league titles in 6 years and they have a chance to stop them from winning 4 consecutive league titles this season as well. Despite their budget, Liverpool were a thorn in Man City’s side a team that has unlimited financial power who’ve breached literally 115 charges. At one point they almost won a quadruple and before Manchester United knocked them out of the FA Cup, they were in contention in all 4 completions. The state of the club he’s had a massive impact on it and has implemented his system to great effect some of the attacking football they play is unbelievable and installed this mentality monsters attitude within this team in a sense that they can win games without playing well and being behind doesn’t affect them as they find a way to get the result. In his rebuild he changed the team while also maintaining the same mentality and energy. Some of the players under him have reached an incredible level as well. When he was at Borussia Dortmund, they were very successful with him as their manager, but the season after he left they had some issues and since 2015 they’ve had multiple managerial changes post Klopp. I hope Liverpool don’t go in that same trajectory after he leaves in the summer.
Not reading allat💀
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NEDUM ABSOLUTELY SMAASHED THE FINAL WORD!
we love klopp, but liverpool was one of the biggest club itw even before him
I think Klopp is an amazing manager and thank God someone was attempting to stop Pep's City, but these guys are overhyping his career at Liverpool. Comparing him to Wenger and SAF is just disrespectful to two legendary managers (SAF, mainly).
Why shouldn't he be compared to those great managers. Klopp spent 9 years with Liverpool during which time he contested 6 of thoseseasons he contested in champs league. In those years, he got to 3 UCL finals and won one. Ferguson and Wenger did over 20 years. While SAF got to 4 UCL and won 2, Wenger got to only 1 and lost it. In Europa league, Wenger got to one final and lost it, same as with Klopp.
These two great managers( SAF and Wenger) won the league with fewer points tally than what Klopp won and lost the league titles with. Klopp is contesting against a war chest in Man City( a Country sponsored football club with possibly the greatest ever manager in Guardiola). We all know what Pep did to both Wenger and Ferguson( If not for the same Pep, Ferguson would easily have won a further 2 UCLs). Now imagine if Pep had come earlier to the EPL, both Wenger and SAF would have retired earlier and won less.
In summary, both SAF and Wenger and great. It is an unfair statement and and insult to say Klopp should not be compared to them.
@@ikennaalex2843 It's not unfair and it's not an insult. Klopp isn't on the same level as SAF or Pep. It's just the truth.
I see what you did there. Somehow, you have replaced Pep with Wenger. Gradually, you are rationalising. Just a matter of time.
SAF's body of work spans many years. Klopp has done alot lesser years with smaller budgets against established clubs. He did it with Mainz and BVB. I am aware SAF did wonders with Aberdeen too, and that's why I said you can compare Klopp to SAF. Mind you, I have not said Klopp is greater than SAF
Replaced Wenger with Pep......my bad. Lol
@@ikennaalex2843 I put Pep there in place of Wenger because I think Pep > Wenger, but Pep wasn't mentioned by Ogden in the video (Wenger and SAF were). lol I still don't think Klopp is on the same level as Wenger either tbf. He's below all three imo, but there's a gap between SAF and Pep to Wenger, and then Klopp is there. All my opinion, of course.
Lost two champions league finals and has won one premier league in almost 9 years...finshed below united several times,a mediocre Manchester united team for the last ten years but somehow people say his this great coach
Jurgen Klopp is no doubt one of Liverpool’s greatest managers ever however these before and after with some trophy hauls are incredibly misleading. From 1990-2010, Liverpool under poor ownership fell tremendously behind their rivals such as United and Arsenal and then fell further behind when Abramovich brought in Oligarch money to Chelsea and later Abu Dhabi taking over City. When the current Liverpool owners FSG took over, the club was nearly in administration. Riddled with debt, average players on big contracts, some long time sponsors like Adidas jumping ship. FSG’s goal was to implement a self sustaining model for the club and to gradually over time, reduce the debt, move on those players on big wages, refresh the recruitment policy through statistical analysis and risk-averse contracts to players who were younger with tons of growth potential. It took the better part of 5-7 years after their ownership began to implement these things. 2 of those 7 even were Klopp’s first couple seasons. It wasn’t until around 2017-18 season (Klopp’s 2nd full season) where the commercial revenues began to rise to similar levels as rivals. Now 14 years into FSG’s ownership, Liverpool are the 4th most valuable football club on the planet. Our commercial revenues are higher than the likes of United and Arsenal after trailing behind them for nearly 30 years. The current squad is a great mixture of experience, players in their primes or ready to hit their primes and really young exciting talent coming out of the academy. State of the art training facility and now a redeveloped 60k seater Anfield. With the appointment of Michael Edwards and Richard Hughes, the club is now in a position to sustain success rather than have to go through a period of having to right the wrongs of the previous 20 years.
Well said! I don't get these muppets that want FSG out! 🙈
and they have a comprehensive drug use strategy in which 22 out of the 35-man squad all suffer from asthma. The current squad are going to lose their world-class players in the next 2 to 3 years if not sooner. The youngsters are not good enough. The whole Liverpool success story which is not a success story is built on a sham. Yearend Flopp has failed more than he has achieved. He was given a huge headstart when arriving at Liverpool because he had 18+ players to offload thus handing him a significant headstart in the net spend war that Liverpool instigated. He lost two out of three finals in the UCL and has ended second so many times. He has spent loads of money and has a huge squad. His squad's salary spend is also high. He has been a disgrace with his behavior on the touchline, His antisemitic quotes and his behavior towards journalists is a disgrace. Now he is leaving as a serial loser. Good riddance to him
Won the league once in nine years 😂
@@user-bk3gn7wl1ebetter first 9 seasons trophy haul than Alex Ferguson 👍🏻
@@sinan_3384 Ferguson could handle the pressure.😂
So sad to know that Klopp will leave , I feel that it’s different to when shanks /paisley / fagan left and success continued because it’s all the back room staff going as well . I imagine the likes Ronnie Moran etc would have got respect which ensured that period of continuity
This Klopp/Liverpool PR is crazy. lol
Liverpool ownership is taking the right steps to replace Klopp by appointing Michael Edwards and Richard Hughes, expanding anfield, upgrading training facilities, strong academy, giving the next manager a solid base to build on. This is learning from the mistakes of Man U.
michael edwards, hughest, pedro, etc etc, together with the best senior management team in world football, the next team will become even better
Haha😂
3 ucl finals, 1 uel final, get ur facts right
This means Salah and etc are leaving so they’re hoping Nunez becomes elite next season I don’t think highly of either of the wingers Diaz and Jota are average at best. If salah leaves I do see them dropping pretty drastically without klopp
Are you sure hes won 2 FA cups with Liverpool!! ⛔
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It PGMOL who design the league winner not team performance 🤣
This is a great and young team mixed with experience in the right areas. We just need a decent manager who doesn't try and change everything then we will be fine
De Zerbi wants the job because the squad is excellent. None of the managers on that list use 4-3-3 formation so they'd be changing the way the team plays a bit. I think lean times ahead for Liverpool after Klopp's exit.
While I get what Stevie is saying regarding the key aspect of recruitment , I can't help but wonder if the strong affiliation and respect that the past greats already had with the club, could be considered as a big head-start to their time as managers.
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Even with the advanced notice that Liverpool have, there are still no real strong contenders that spring to mind; which, unfortunately, is why I worry that we're in more of a SAF ->
Moyes / Wenger -> Emery situation, thank a Shankly -> Paisley one.
As a NEUTRAL fan..KLOPP ♥️🙌🏾
@0:20 I assume the UCL figures in brackets are for finals that weren't won and that way the number stack up since 1992 with a win in 2005 and final in 2007 before Klopp and a win for Klopp in 2019 and two other finals in 2018 and 2022. The PL league finishes are correct. Klopp has only won 1 FA Cup. Since 1992 (and ignoring the FA Cup win that year) and before Klopp Liverpool won 2 FA Cups (2001 and 2006). The league cup wins are correct.
Klopp's departure would have massive impact. It remains to see what will happen to LFC after his departure.
If Alonso is to be the next Liverpool manager, the transition will be absolutely far less painful due to the quality of who Alonso is as a player/manager/coach and most importantly the affiliation he has with Liverpool fans/city already. The stars are aligning for Liverpool with Alonso.
@@Andre-hm5vothen hire
Gerrard better😂😂
That's why we should be focusing on winning the league this year, because we might no be up there again for a long time
With hard fixtures in April going to be hard 3 games in 7 that going to be very hard we always get beat after long fixtures list like arsenal and utd west ham going to have 7 days off@TerribleEnglish
@@andrewwright4195 We'll only have 2 games per week like everyone else, so I don't worry about that. I think we're not good enough, though. I think we are more likely to drop points than Ars or City.
I don't see it as a problem, but huge challenge... yes... and the new manager that come onboard will have one season to convince Salah, VVD and Trents to a contract extension cause it is going to stabilize the team for a few more years when the trio extend their service.
The new manager has 10 years to win 1 prem title n 1 championship league to equal klopp ynwa
I know bro the liverduds have only won one prem title in 34years absolutely pathetic for a supposedly big English club Lololololol 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 who is the biggest club in England then
@noobmaster1368 it doesn't matter. The point is that the standards are low
For starters We won the fa cup in ‘92, 01 and 06 before Klopp 🤷♂️
And only one prem title in 34years absolutely pathetic for a supposedly big English club Lololololol 😊
@paulkyriakopoulos3444 30years. 1990 was the previous league title. I think Man City was 44 years between titles. Man U had 26 years before Fergie and was relegated. Chelsea had 50 years. It happens.
It would be a mistake looking for a "new Jurgen Klopp" as a Liverpool's manager. Alonso for instance has nothing to do with Klopp.
Liverpool will be fine. The club and squad are in an extremely healthy position and managers, like players, back themselves to perform. You don’t become an elite manager if you have the mindset “that job is too big for me” or “I can’t replace x”
Every club will need a manager replaced at some point. That’s the nature of the sport.
We dont need a biased City pundit giving his opinion about this...ask him about the 115 charges instead!
Klopp exposed Man City Club.115... that's why his leaving
Yeah dude 115 fictitious charges stacked against them. But poor old liverspuds and their delusional supporters have been starved of prem titles. Only one prem title in 34years absolutely pathetic for a supposedly big English club Lololololol 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 yawn
@@gergis31 Flopp is a disgrace who cheated his way to his one and only PL title. His players are all on drugs. Explain to me how 22 out of 35 of Liverpools squad suffer from asthma? They are using asthma pumps to cheat. no team can match their energy levels even though every team trains the same. Im glad this disgrace is leaving.
This comment sounds so immature
I actually think LIVERPOOL will do better after Klopp...the man has laid such a good foundation its impossible to fail.
Sometimes, the greatest managers dont win the most trophy. Klopp has set the standards, I believe our next coach will bring in more trophies, but we will never forget what klopp has done for the club.
Steve sounds like Klopps assistant lol.
Xabi Alonso has to be the next manager of Liverpool to make this new transition stable, secure, exciting, yet more importantly familiarity. Alonso has the respect and love from the Liverpool fans already yet knows what Liverpool need and are as a club/city. He's the absolute favourite by a long shot with his impending success at Leverkusen, the stars are aligning luckily for Liverpool here to remain at the top.
I don't think Alonso wants Liverpool. After all, he'll have to produce miracles on a tight budget.
@@TerribleEnglish Liverpool have signed every player Klopp wanted bar Bellingham and Tchoumeni (both wanted Real Madrid) and Caicedo who was always gonna choose Chelsea. Klopp admitted it was his fault with the midfield last season. There is no tight budget especially when Edwards will sell players for big prices. He got 25 million for Solanke and 20 million for Brewster.
@@Ruscococo1 That's complete nonsense. How could you possibly know what players Klopp wanted? He's like Wenger, he protects the owners - his employers
@@TerribleEnglish He said it in interviews, then in Covid they made a profit, they have built a new training ground and redone the stadium twice which costs money and Liverpool are one of the only teams who are no where near any FFP breaches. Liverpool have signed so many good players there have been one or two flops but you compare it to United who every player is literally a flop.
@@Ruscococo1 It doesn't matter what he said. He's covering for the owners.
Condolences to Liverpool 💀
Who made the premier league big? Who motivayed other coaches in premiere league to do their best? Don't underestimate the whole presence of Klopp on this league. Its big
No 🤣
"The Gerrard slip era". What a comment from a professional analyst and fellow player. That insult is for tribalistic banter on the stands and in the pubs. Not coming from a professional. Just say 2014. Imagine an ex player insulting one of the hardest working pro's ever who carried one of the biggest clubs in the world on his shoulders for over a decade. The absolute neck. Oh wait he's a Man City ambassador. Professional pundit my clank.
The slip was soooo funny 😂 i love watching it in highlight vids on youtube 😁
I have said this will be the start of LFC finishing 6 to 8 because klopp performed miracles every season not straight away players under contract but you have seen already about some of the top stars leaving in the summer then its down to how much FSG back the new manager and i have no faith in them
Replacing klopp at Liverpool isn't half the job of replacing Sir Alex. United at that time were expected to win something every year, in Liverpool coming close is deemed good enough. They celebrate 3 champions league finals even tho they only won one. It's not gonna be an easy job for the new manager but definitely not even half the pressure of the United job.
😂😂 Don't talk wet.
Fergie wasn't up against an oil state that has 115 charges hanging over their heads.
@@RedBrigades are you trying to prove my point? I'm saying Liverpool have No expectations to win anything. Now you say it's because City have charges against them. It doesn't matter the reason what I'm saying is the lack of expectations makes it easier to manage than a team with high expectations.
Yea as long as they competed with city it's OK
@@djjamie4704 exactly my point. You don't have to win anything just be competitive.
3:40 Marc Ogden talks like he knows, but he doesn't. Fergie wasn't loved by United supporters? Pep isn't loved by City supporters? Arteta isn't loved by Arsenal supporters? Any coach who brings quality football to Anfield will be loved by Liverpool supporters. Marc's talk about personality being the reason for his relationship with the supporters is just rubbish.
I will need time after Klopp. That is for sure.
Klopp leaving Liverpool, taking over Germany and Adidas would be punching air. Nike however 💸 💸 💸
Liverpool about to return to their banter era after Klopp 😂😂😂
This talk is RUBBISH the next manager is walking into the best Liverpool situation since 1990 every other managerial hire has come after the club have been in a mess that’s not the case here.
You're looking at half picture..Most of the players will leave with Klopp
90s again baby 😂😂
Lol 😂
There's far more to losing JK than it being that simple. The man changed so much behind the scenes, he's a sports scientist and innovator, and his personality helped bond the players and fans. The only man I think would work would be Pep Lijnders who the players are supposed to want too. Very little would need to change, he has been hugely influential with the academy, and Klopp himself admits it's often Pep who makes the right call on tactics during games. I don't see any other manager out there who would be right for us.
Who put the stat before/after Klopp stat up? What a clown. Before Klopp Benitez made two Champions league finals not one. Beating Milan in 2005. Then losing to Milan in 2007 🤦♂️
That that stat works like this.
Before klopp two finals with 1 win and (1) loss.Under klopp 1 win and (2) losses.
The next manager has nothing to worry about, as long as liverpool finishes second to man city they'll be ok and they also have the 80s to fall back on, so no pressure really
this list is so wrong Klopp been to 3 UCL Finals Lost 2x Won 1x, Finished 2nd 2x won the PL 1x, Fa Cup 1x, Carabao Cup 2x
Lost 2 time to real madrid
& won against Tottenham ❤
OK,
Any legacy works with 2 people.
The maker and the master.
Alex inglethorpe is the maker in the workshop
Klopp was the master who could take the pieces to battle.
You need both.
Liverpool must maintain the flow of both
To say Klopp had a bigger impact at Liverpool than Ferguson did at Man Utd is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
And he's a United journalist, too. The dude hates United and it couldn't be more obvious. lmao
What does 'impact' mean, though? It's about sudden change. Klopp took Liv to the very top, challenging for the league with 95 points several times and 3 CL finals in 5 years. Fergie never reached those standards. I'm not saying Klopp was better than Fergie, I'm just explaining what he might mean
@@TerribleEnglish United wasn't great before SAF took over either. Within 5ish years, he turned United into the most dominant English team for the next 20 years until he retired. Klopp can't be compared to Fergie; not in results/trophies and not in his legacy at his club. It's borderline disrespectful to even make the comparison, especially coming from a journalist that's supposed to know United in and out. lol
@@CoconutJewce No he didn't. Fergie won the league about 6 years after joining and took another 7 years to win the CL. Klopp had 3 CL finals in 5 years soon after joining the club.
@@TerribleEnglish Just stop.
Stats are all wrong. He has been in 3 UCL finals (4 including Dortmund)and won 1 FA cup.
4:21 Moreno knows clones exist 😂
Enersto Varvede Bilbao is the right man
Ferguson left a team on the way down. Wenger’s team was not even challenging for the title… LFC are on the rise. Very different
Liverpool fan here. Dark days are upon us. I’m just happy he’s seen us get back to competing at the Top. 2 stadium redevelopments. Mel wood / kirkby transition. Excellent academy. EPL UCL and an almost ballondor . It was the best of times
Are you mad. "Dark days" Should Liverpool get Alonso, (which is a must) Liverpool will remain at the top competing. The stars are aligning nicely for Liverpool with Alonso now luckily.
"Dark days" is going too far.. for now. It's reasonable to assume that we'll at least be competing for the top 4 with the new manager, hopefully getting into the top 4. I just hope it's not a return to hanging around in 7th and 8th..
That's idealistic. This was a once in a fan's lifetime manager. He had the fans, owners, players and Largely media on his side because of charisma. Alonso is good but people forget he hasn't done it yet. At least not at the top. Klopp will be hard to follow, in fact if i were Alonso, i'd think twice. If he fails at Liverpool, it'll dent his career as a manager@@Andre-hm5vo .. Two draws on the bounce and fans will be saying Klopp would've got something there. Best Option would've have been Lidgers for 2 years and then New manager. My own opinion. He has his flaws ofcourse.
You'll be surprised. Klopp had the pull. In fact, our best summer signing isn't Alonso, but Edwards. Alonso is still a young manager. Not accomplished much yet. Edward's business acumen may keep Alonso in the Job for the first year. Most of our star players must be speaking to their agents right now. We shall soon find out there is no loyalty in football.@@TerribleEnglish That said, Hope we get Alonso and renew with our star players.
@@arindajordan179 I agree about Edwards and trust him to get the right man for the job.
Actually I now think Alonso is in a difficult position because he's done so well this season. If he stays at Leverkusen he probably won't be able to repeat it or do great things in the CL because he'll likely lose a few top players this summer. Then his stock will fall.
If he goes to Liverpool there's a very low chance of him living up to Klopp's standard, especially as top players might leave this summer too.
However, if he goes to Munich, the chances of doing well with them are very high. He'll do better than Tuchel for sure and will surely win the league with them next season.
So, really, Bayern is the safest option for his career I would say.
Tuchel followed upon Klopp on 2 clubs, how about 3rd one
It will be hard for a new manager knowing he has only 10 years to win a title 😂
When your discussing possibly the best manager liverpool have had in the past 30 to 40 years.and one of the best this country has ever seen.put a former liverpool pundit to discuss. Nedum onuha is former man city and quite clueless
One thing about Ogie he’ll always find a way to shoe horn Man United into a conversation.
European football leagues must disclose salaries
I don't understand why many football fans are against revealing players' contract salaries. I think player salaries are either too low or overrated. I think Haaland's annual salary is over $50 million. Honestly, there is no way the EPL salary would be that low. Does anyone know anything about Mbappe's contract? Why didn't you make it public in the first place? I don't know if it's after tax or before tax. The media always says different things. The same goes for the salaries of Griezmann and Suarez during their time in Barcelona. To begin with, La Liga is not sure whether some players' salaries are before or after tax. Always changing. First of all, the salaries of Messi and Ronaldo from 2011 to 2018 are estimated to be after-tax salaries.) And this is not accurate regarding Messi's contract. Laporta said Messi's salary must be paid until 2025. How much did he get paid? And many believe Mane's wages at Liverpool were £100,000 a week. First of all, Mane's agent said his salary is higher than reported in the media.American leagues disclose salaries. Messi's annual salary for 2023, as revealed by the MLS Players' Association, is $20 million. The base annual salary is $12 million. The media reports that it is over $50 million, but in reality it is much less than this. Conversely, if you look at the wage bill, EPL clubs spend more money than the media reports, with Manchester City spending more than 300 million pounds, and Liverpool and Chelsea spending more than 250 million pounds. (Please disclose player salaries, contracts, and salaries.
And why are some people asking (there will be comments asking why I don't disclose my salary, but I'm an ordinary person. Are ordinary people and sports players the same? And there is FFP in European soccer) La Liga also has a salary cap. If I were a soccer player.I would agree to disclosure of my salary. i am asian. Why do people who are opposed to revealing player salaries say that some players have high or low salaries? Football's wage is It's an estimate and unofficial. . , commentators, coaches, and even other players in the league don't know a player's contract and salary...As a side note, Saudi money is exaggerated. A Saudi reporter said that Benzema's annual salary is $50 million. Jordan Henderson's weekly salary was also not what was reported in the media
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Manchester City's charges are exaggerated. Not guilty without evidence
Most of the 115 charges involved not cooperating and not providing data. To be honest, I think there are about 10 important things, and the FFP violation is not guilty, right? Most of the evidence is fabricated. The CAS award emphasized that most of the alleged breaches reported by the Adjudicatory Chamber of the CFCB were either not established or time-barred. As the charges with respect to any dishonest concealment of equity funding were clearly more significant violations than obstructing the CFCB's investigations, it was not appropriate to impose a ban on participating in UEFA's club competitions for MCFC's failure to cooperate with the CFCB's investigations alone. However, considering i) the financial resources of MCFC; ii) the importance of the cooperation of clubs in investigations conducted by the CFCB, because of its limited investigative means; and iii) MCFC's disregard of such principle and its obstruction of the investigations, the CAS Panel found that a significant fine should be imposed on MCFC and considered it appropriate to reduce UEFA's initial fine by 2/3, i.e. to the amount of EUR 10 million
. City's 115 charges
54 charges on: Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18
. 14 charges on: Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18.
5 charges on: Failure to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
. 7 charges on: Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18
. 35: charges on: Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present.
in any case, most of the charges are unreasonable
Man City is the world's No. 1 team, but they don't admit it, right?
If any of the charges are true, they would have lost at least two titles. Look at Everton and N. Forest.
I ain't reading allat😂
The Prem has really good evidence on historical player and manager remuneration - this is the most proven issue that was dismissed as time barred by Cas.
It will be very very hard evidentially - and politically impossible - to prove the corporate fraud stuff.
But the Prem doesn’t need it.. off book payments to managers/ players combined with lack of filings/ information provision/ general stink will be enough for a massive points deduction plus fine.
I don’t know why southgate is not mentioned in this conversation lol.
southgate is joining manure as the new manager
Because he's not good enough for LFC. 😂
Southgate will join Manure @@Andre-hm5vo
Because everyone knows he's not good enough for a top club
You know exactly why. Your problem is as a Man U fan, you just won't admit it.
Did anyone mention Southgate as their option for the job?
Pep's the guy for continuity!
Nope! Need to move on from anything associated with Klopp as "Pep" is not Klopp no matter how connected they were. Xabi Alonso is the guy, he's a absolute must to take Liverpool into a NEW era of success and familiarity. The stars are aligning for Liverpool with Alonso.
Enersto Varvede Bilbao is the answer
Not tuchel not gerrard not Xabi but hoping for Nagelsmann instead 🍻🍻🍻
I don’t think you have a to a football pundit to see there’ll be a drop off when Klopp leaves. Cheers experts!
Why no Southgate to Liverpool BTW?
Godwilling
JÜRGEN LEGEND❤😊!! ALL DA BEST FOR LFC! (will the New gaffer be able to Do it with that money? 80 mio in 5 years...=NOTHING! Compare with Chelsea, Man City etc...)
People wil miss Klopp for a while, but in time, they wil get used to the ways of the new manager...
Didn’t klop only win one FA cup? The graphics showed 2 🧐
FA Cup
Before Klopp 2 (2001 and 2006)
Under Klopp 1 (2022)
When did Klopp win his second FA cup?
Liverpool are in a better situation now than when he arrived. So the next manager doesn't need to build from scratch. Everything is their .name me another team In Europe. With the business Liverpool has .stadium training camp youngsters coming through .money to spend. Why is it most of the top managers in the world love YNWA .the big problems Liverpool will have is too many people wanting the job .or scared of getting it .
Another delusional liverspuds supporter. Dude liverspuds have only won one prem title in 34 years lololololol absolutely dismal failure for a supposedly big English club Lololololol 😊😊
Get ready Liverpool will struggle for 2 years
ESPN, it is 1 not 2 FA Cup & he has been to 3 not 2 UCL finals
so to nedum onuha point re the next manager no it would be stupid if the new manager whoever it ends up being you cant copy jurgen klopp and start copying things like the fist bumps to the fans and things like that it would look fake and stupid🤣 you have to be yourself and get your own ideas across however I dont agree with this idea that is a nightmare scenario taking over liverpool right now if you are a decent manager and you back yourself whats the issue the squad is quite good that klopp is going to leave behind and comparing it to when fergie left m utd is not the same thing at all imo 🤔
3 chanpion league final , twice vs madrid
3 ucl final , 2018 2019 2022
We'll all be there to witness Klopp's beautiful fairytale ending with 2nd position yet again..Klopp will then cement Himself as the 2nd best Manager ..So proud 🥺🥲🙌
You do love a celebrating a cheat, don't you? How's the investigation going for cheating at your club?
He's going to win
Europe league and premier league ❤ynwa
Won carabao already
@eL--RaL They remember you absolutely bottling it 4-0 more than anything 😂😂And it obviously still triggers you as you're chatting 💩 about Liverpool finishing mid table. YNWA
Loserfool won't fall, they'll jist revert back to their route and who they really are, Irrelevant mid-table fodder team
When did we last finish mid table? And Barcelona have never been the same since we destroyed you 4-0😂😂😂
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 We LITERALLY won LaLiga last season 😂😂
NOBODY remembers Liverpool's 2020 Prem title 😂😂😂😂
@@eL--RaLhow’s your season going today? 😂😂
'loserfool' what are you, 12?
Loserfool? How old are you, six???
Lmao LIVERPOOL went to 2 ucl finals before klopp
2005 & 2007
Under klopp 3, not 2
2018,2019 & 2022
As long as they don’t try to fill it with Southgate size cabbage 😆👍
Hansi
3 UCL finals and a Europa League final.
Pathetic from Espn😂
Southgate ican do the job
Klopp hasn’t won that many trophies. One Premier League in eight years.
You're forgetting he was up against the biggest cheats in the history of sport. Klopp's been robbed of (at least) two league titles, and will be robbed of another.
You’re right, but he also didn’t walk into a team that could win the league immediately. He said we’d win it in 4 years, and we dis
Alonso will get cooked
The great Klopp only won 6 trophies. So overrated, theyve been second best his whole tenure.
Liverpool needs a manager like Gareth Southgate after Klopp.
Agree dude Southgate is a must for anfield 100%😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 He will field players whom he likes and never based on meritocracy. Maguire is the epitome of his personal preference. This guy is way over his prime, yet he captains the England team. Even Erik Ten Hag knows that.