Cancelled ALIEN 3 Was Going To Have The Xenomorph On EARTH!
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- Cancelled ALIEN 3 Was Going To Have The Xenomorph On EARTH!
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The original teaser for 3 hinted that the Xeno would be coming to earth.
"on earth everyone can hear you scream" great tagline for a movie we never got
H seems to have forgotten that lol
The William Gibson Alien 3 script, graphic and Audiodrama are excellent. Hicks and Bishop actually voice act in the audio.
It was horridly superficial, IMO. Turned the series from 'Alien' to 'Resident Evil', with random characters turning into Aliens. It felt very cartoonish.
It was exactly what fans actually wanted ,not to mention that ending was pretty much a setup for adaptation alien earth war if alien 4 had followed that storyline
Someone eventually made this film: “A Quiet Place #1.”
A lot of the early Alien 3 stuff has been around for sometime. Eric Red took the farm idea Renny mentions and placed it on a ship, which s where the alien-animal hybrid idea started. The best pitch was Clive Barker's: If it's Alien 3 or "cubed", what happens when something eats the being that contains the Alien gestation
I would have loved to see Vincent Ward’s Wooden Space Ship Alien 3 film.
That was a budgetary nightmare but an amazing aesthetic and idea
Fox clearly never understood the franchise. The best thing they could have done was adapt the Dark Horse comic that was a direct sequel to Aliens.
The creators of Alien vs Predator Extinction on the PS2 very mich brought that point up that Fox didn't understand let alone really care about them.
Absolutely! Ever watched Alien Theory channel? Does a dang good job. May not sound like a ringing endorsement but I love falling asleep to them lol
To be clear, does a good job on Alien audio comics…
Alien 3 was my introduction to the franchise so I don't hate it. I have fond memories watching my recorded VHS with adverts included
I have watched it many times I just hate how they rushed the intro to the film it was so shoddy and poorly done the rest of the movie isn't bad but nowhere near as compelling as the first 2 films.
What?! I never knew this. I STILL have the "Alien Earth War" comics (Darkhorse Comics) that I picked up in the late 80's which was awesome! That story was crazy cool. BTW dude you and I are on the same page as far as being diehard Alien fans. You would LOVE the Alien Earth War comics if you haven't read them yet.
I remember seeing Alien 3 in the theatre and was like what the hell is this? It grew on me over the years but definitely was a bad move after the masterpiece that was Aliens.
I was hoping to that they would do the alien earth, wars series from dark horse comics. Ventures alien was halfway decent, but I was expecting the earth wars.🥲
I also have those.
I really want to like Alien 3 more than I do. A film inspired by the Earth Wars comics would have been great.
Raptors in the tall grass...
Don't go into da long grass!
They also planned Ripley landing on a wooden planet inhabited by space monks. I thought that would be interesting.
William Gibsons rejected screenplay set on a space station is what I really wanted for Alien 3
Much better idea
Absolutely love Alien 3. The birth of the Dragon is such a haunting scene. The eulogy, music and the birth of the xeno all mixed together, it's just incredible (the one with the dog).
The best thing about Fincher’s Alien 3 was the camera work. It was dreary and aimed super low after Cameron’s and Scott’s takes.
Yeah definitely and I get the feeling it was the only thing the studio would allow him to do
That's bad if that's the best thing about the movie. If it's not the story, you have a garbage movie
I don’t think it aimed super low, imo Alien3 had a great vision and is a great ending to the trilogy 🍻
Still a good film, shame fincher didn't have full control could of been epic without studio interference
@@Dr.Disregard funnily enough part of an appeal to a certain film is how it is shot and lit. Who da thunk it?
If you want a good replacement for Alien 3, check out the Aliens comic by Dark Horse by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson.
It was a direct continuation of Aliens, following the story of Hicks and Newt. After Alien3 was made, the comic was adapted to the novel Earth Hive, and the names changed from Hicks and Newt to Wilkes and Billie. Reprints of the comic have since changed the names to Wilkes and Billie, but know that origianlly it was a DIRECT sequel to the films.
Yup it was good too
They've changed the names back to Newt and Hicks in more recent printings of those comics.
Face huggers latching onto farm animals. Imagine the variety of Xenomorphs that would be birthed. We could have gotten Bull Alien, or Horse Alien. Pig Alien? Chicken? Lol
Horse alien, pig alien, chicken alien sounds ridiculous when saying it but just imagine how cool and awesome it would be to see a four legged xenomorph the size of a horse galloping and jumping to kill people would be.
I think the best example of what an alien movie on earth would look like would be the movie Signs (but imagine with xenomorphs)
Batman vs Alien we got a face hugger on a crocodile and the xenomorph was the size of a dinosaur, truly a sight to behold.
never thought about that but your totally correct if they made it back to earth even birds flying Aliens
Like the 90s,toys. Bull alien, scorpion alien etc
The director cut of 3 is better movie than the theatrical realise .
I agree. But I like some of the scenes that were cut. The only thing I didn't like about it was then using an ox, but I digress
I love the directors cut!
@@shadowbeast2276 I had a rottweiler so the ox was better for me 🤣
@@kevd690kd ahh. I can understand that 💯%👍
Hope it was a sweet thing. They have such a bad reputation
Alien 3 is a movie I hated when I was young but now I see as the perfect end to Ripley's story.
Hicks & Newt are still alive and living happily in a bungalow in Coventry 😑
Give us Aliens: Earth Wars
We kind of got the corn (wheat) field thing in Covenant.
I liked Alien 3 but didn’t love it, I liked some of the ideas such as the setting in a prison but I think a Prison on board a Space Station would have been cooler & why not still have more than one Xenomorph imagine a Xenomorph Prison riot and I can also see there was too many cooks in the kitchen on what was suppose to be David Fincher’s Alien 3. I would have loved that pay-off teased in Alien & Aliens of Weyland-Yutani getting their hands on a Xenomorph Queen Specimen & see how they would try to weaponise it maybe even using the prisoners on board a Space Station Prison as illegal test subjects for all kinds of dark experiments etc
That's alien resurrection 😂
I don’t mind Alien 3 and the Assembly Cut makes it that much better, i grew up with all the films so i have a soft spot for Alien 3, Resurrection though i can't stand, it's a parody of the series and i only watch it if i want a guilty pleasure experience.
Sigourney Weaver _refused_ to do Alien3 until WB promised her a script that had no guns in it. She signed onto Aliens without reading it, and wouldn't have signed on had she known there were any guns (Weaver is _demented_ in her anti-gun beliefs).
_She's_ the primary reason the Alien movies failed - big time. She of course compromised her beliefs for Alien Resurrection - once the check had enough zeroes.
Yeah but she was also brilliant in them.
They were gonna go for hicks as the lead and her in a coma but she kept changing her mind about coming back
I remember seeing a BTS for Aliens with James Cameron explaining why guns were in the movie to her, : "You're not playing Signourney Weaver, you're playing Ripley. And Ripley wants to live."
Wouldn't say that's the reason for failure. Bad writing has been. No reason a gun-free 'Alien' film can't happen which is still written amazingly well.
That's lame. Hollywood sucks
@@Xenomorphine Bad writing very often falls back on having to rewrite already existing concepts, because they bring in other writers, often more than one, that doesn't have a clue when it comes to what was intended with the original idea, while each of them are pulling it in their own direction..
the assembly cut is watchable
The best in the franchise
The Alien 3 assembly cut is a vast improvement over the theatrical release. Unfortunately, the tech needed didn't exist.
It's OK in some parts and I liked the fact that they went with a singular Xenomorph but hate the dog hybrid thing. But Aliens should be in space and not Earth to keep more Sci-Fi.
I think one of the factors that contributed to what happened to Newt was the fact that Carrie Henn had aged between films so they couldn't exactly keep continuity with Aliens since people aren't supposed to age in hypersleep.
The franchise just ran it's course after aliens. They couldn't come up with a great script involving carrie henn as newt. They could have changed the actress with somebody else to play her in the third movie. But i think at that point fox didn't know what to do with alien 3. So it just ended up being an average conclusion to the first two films with ripley being killed off!
@@PAUL-MH Alien should not have involved Sigourney Weaver. They should have gone with a new story with a new lead since Weaver herself said she did not want to star in another film.
@@BReal23-qm8hs Agreed. Alien 3 should have gone in a new direction.
There were things they could've done, but I think they just lacked the imagination to come up with them. They needed to allow them to come back to gateway station and figure out a setup from there instead of sticking alien eggs on the sulaco with zero explanation of how they got there. The derelict ship very well could've been out of range of the blast radius so you just have a story where the company goes back to retrieve samples then later on all hell breaks loose at gateway station. Perfect setting for the 3rd film.
So, recasting doesn’t exist in Hollywood or something? That’s the lamest excuse of all.
The "Director's Cut" re-edit for the Blu-ray release was brilliant, IMO. I highly recommend giving it a chance.
I thought this was well known - there was an early teaser trailer for Alien 3 with a slow egg reveal and a voiceover saying "this time on Earth, everyone can hear you scream"
🎶Shut up and Charles Dance with me!🎶
The original teaser makes it seems like they were going to earth
I don't think a cornfield would have worked... we already had Critters which is essentially the same premise. Would have been more interesting for a urban city outbreak. Especially if you actually linked it with Bladerunner universe or something akin to it.
I actually love how Alien 3 turned out for the most part (including the deleted scenes form the extended cut). I thought it was a great ending to the Ripley story.
I do not agree.
I appreciate Alien 3 for trying to take the series back to its horror roots. It had an impossible challenge in trying to live upto Aliens. The world, atmosphere, cinematography and score were fantastic! I also think that the Alien design was the best in the series. The rod puppet special effects range from great (for the time) to abysmal.
I remember when I first watched the workprint cut, I couldn't believe how much it improved the film overall....
I can only hope that one day Fincher puts together a cut closer to his vision (if possible) with some updated special effects! Highly unlikely but one can dream!
That Alien 3 would have basically been Aliens in Bladerunner, which sounds awesome to me.
I like all of the original alien film series. There were a lot of good character actors in #3 which carried it .
I really like Alien 3. The first 3 movies may be very different from each other but I like them on their own terms.
Assembly cut of Alien 3 stands shoulder to shoulder with Alien and Aliens.
It is better and a good sequel but this isn't at the same level of the 2 first ones if we have to be completely honest
Assembly cut is worse than theatrical.
Nope
Haha hell no- Aliens is untouchable compared all other alien films.
Great video. I grew to see Alien movies 1 - 4 as 1 Horror from Sci-Fi, 2 Horror from Sci-Fi and Action, 3 Horror from Sci-Fi and Drama, and lastly 4 Horror from Sci-Fi and Comedy.
Audible has an audio drama that uses the original script for Alien 3. If you want to hear what it would have been like you can do it there.
I think a good idea for Alien 3 would have been a battle on Gateway to stop the Aliens getting to Earth. It would have rounded out the trilogy quite well because the whole conflict has been between the company trying to capture an alien for profit, and Ripley and the soldiers trying to destroy them. A battle on Gateway would have seen all 3 sides, the Aliens, the Company, and then Ripley, along with a small resistance, trying to stop them.
I would have loved to see William Gibson's version. I don't like the idea of Alien on Earth, cornfield or not.
I remember Paul WS Anderson talking in the AvP dvd extras about the teaser for Alien 3 saying 'On Earth, Everyone Can Hear Your Scream' and his disappointment with the finished film.
I know AvP isnt great but at least it wasnt missold 😅
The first draught was set in a monk colony on a mechanical wooden moon. Sounds nuts, but I would LOVE to have seen that.
I really appreciate the version that we got because I know the crap the director(s) went through to make it. There are some issues with it, however I think the majority can be attributed to studio interference.
I thought William Gibson’s part 3 screenplay was the great
missed opportunity for the franchise.
Having aliens on a futuristic farm would have been awesome. The cool future farm tech and a largescale farming operation would have made for amazing set pieces and action scenes.
Alien 3 had something that prequels didn't have, character.
The compelling characters all get killed off early, save for Dillon. And his demise is... Weird.
David didn’t have character?
@@oldsoulnc310 His actor always put in a good performance with virutally every production, but there was very little character in the script for him to work with.
So this is a different version than the original William Gibson script that got adapted into a comic book a couple years ago
It still has one of the most beautiful speaches commited to film.
"WHY............"?! Spine tingling.
The version by William Gibson, involving Lance Henriksen (Bishop), Michael Biehn (Hicks) and Rebecca Jorden (Newt) is the best one that could have been filmed as it followed the story previously established in Aliens 2.
I think the play for "Alien on earth" was not Aliens running through a cornfield, but Aliens in a Blade Runner type mega city. The look and feel of that would match the Alien universe aesthetic.
Alien in a cornfield? I'm glad that never happened.
Once I saw the alternate version of Alien 3 it made a lot more sense. The alien comes out of an ox not a dog so the special effects scene of the alien getting up off the floor looked normal once it came out of an ox not a dog. They spliced the same scene in with the dog version and the alien appeared to be just as big as the dog when it had just burst out, so that was some choppy garbage the studio did. All the extra footage of the outside of the colony on the surface of the planet was great as well in the alternate and the biggest thing was keeping the part where they actually capture the alien and Golic sets it loose. In the original version I remember in the movie theater when they got to the scene where they were implementing the plan to capture the alien, it was the first part of the film where things were starting to get really exciting and the studio just butchered it and cut out them actually capturing the alien and instead chopped it up so it all blew up in their face. That actually sucked the life right out of the film when it was just starting to get good so yeah, really fckd up the feel and pacing of it, but the final parts of the film with the tunnels, high speed chases, and lead works are all really badazz imo.
I think there's a master cut between the original and the alternate if I could make it myself because not everything they added into the alternate was needed, but def the Ripley washing up on shore, the oxen, and the alien capture and Golic subplot all needed to be in there.
If you view Alien 3 as a stand alone piece of sci-fi horror it's actually a really good film, it's just that they way they cheat and put an alien on the Sulaco, kill Hicks & Newt off is just really bad decision making as far as I'm concerned. My story would've required no aliens on the Sulaco. I really don't like that after the fact cheating to work a monster into a sequel.
Xenomorphs in a cornfield gives off Signs vibes
I just want to say that I like those Mobile Suits Gundam's on your shelf!! (Pretty sure one is a GP-01/fb)
i love the assembly cut of Alien3. It is bleak, it is dirty and gives the Riplay story a fitting end. The Xeno always wins in the end
Mrh, there is a chap making his own cut of alien 3, using the assembly cut and theatrical release. He has also been painstakingly remastering the dodgy effects and lightings. He’s funded this himself. If you do some digging online you can find the webpage. Personally I love alien 3. So under appreciated. Dark, nihilistic. Proper sci-fi horror.
Alien 3 was average big step back from one & two the whole alien puppetry effect threw me off as well
Alien3, for me, represented everything that could go wrong from concept, to script, and then production in the movie business. There were so many conflicting rumours swirling around at the time, first one director, then another director, yet another script writer, and so on and so on. Fincher became a cheap option for something that had spiralled out of control long before he was brought onboard to direct. At the time he made the best film he could given the applied budgetary restraints, but the damage had already been done and the studio wanted a film released as per contract in as quicker time as possible. Is it any wonder it has so many mixed opinions from the fans of the franchise?
I know there's a comic out there that basically is a visual novel of this script. (I think, I last heard about the project a while ago. There's also a comic about the original story treatment by Ron Sushett as well, too. Before Ridley Scott had made some tweaks.)
I like Alien 3 cornfield with aliens that sounds pretty cool
The corn field did sound cool when I read this along time ago but there are really bad ideas in this script like at the end the xenos make an xeno zord
The first draft of Alien Resurrection had xenomorphs chasing soldiers in a wheat field on the ship.
Ohhh what could have been. Then again, a David Fincher Alien movie should be incredible. But if it's being mismanaged, no matter what idea they green lit would have had issues.
Love these videos H been watching some of your older videos lately.
Obviously Hicks and Newt being killed off sucked but i love Alien 3 nowadays. The extra scenes added were overall pretty good but i thought the Ox addition was a downfall, even though i understand why they offered an alternate alien birth.
I've had torn feelings about Alien 3 over the years. The egg on the Sulaco is what bothers me the most now. The Hicks/Newt stuff angered me as a kid, but it doesn't bother me as much as the plothole with the egg on the Sulaco. Its also just so contrived to have Ripley being not only the sole survivor again, but conveniently is infected with a Queen embryo.
However, Ridley Scott's lazy Covenant gave me new appreciation for Alien 3.
The cornfield poster idea I usually tell people just imagine the scene in The Lost World where the Raptors are going through that tall grass but it's Xenomorphs instead. Yeah that could've made for an amazing scene.
I did not mind Alien 3 but I do wish Hicks and News lived hey!! We also did get Aliens on earth with the 2nd Alien vs Predator movie.. Alien vs Predator: Requiem!!
There are so many parts of the DC of Alien 3 I found so entertaining and strong. But my heart struggles to acknowledge that it exists in the same strong canon as the first two. We developed such an emotional connection to Hicks, Newt and Bishop to have them sidelined so callously.
Every Alien movie needs corridors. There are no corridors on the cornfield
Tunnels? Um um eh yeah?
Signs more than effectively used‘aliens in the cornfield’ trope.
Having the Aliens on earth is a terrible idea. In a cornfield?
I think Harlin's version could have been great, or it could have ended like Alien 3 that we got, who knows? I'd love to see the futuristic Earth Harlin had visioned.
I absolutely love Alien 3, specifically the Assembly Cut. Everything about it bar some wonky effects is exactly what I wanted in an Alien movie.
I saw Alien 3 in theaters when I was nearly 13 years old. I grew up on Aliens. I thought Alien was ok but slow and old feeling. As an 80’s kid I felt the same way about Rocky and Rocky 4, and A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. Aliens was tense, scary and a good action thriller. So watching Alien 3, and seeing how the happy ending of sorts of Aliens from my youth was undone in such painful and bleak circumstances with them killing off Hicks and Newt, it was just sad. The whole damn movie was sad. Cause you knew Ripley was gonna die too. F** off movie ( said in Scottish accent )
You know that's canceled version of Alien 3 sound a bit similar to the dark horse comic Alien story Earth War It's really good story I wish that became a movie.
Just so you all know, CZcams is pushing your archive videos more than your main channel.
Considering the difficulties surrounding its production, I think it came out very well. Alien 3 was the first Alien film I ever watched, I was only 9 years old at the time, and my Dad let me stay up late and watch it with him, haha. So, it holds a special, nostalgic place in my heart. Personally, I love it.
I absolutely hated ALIEN3 on its release - I remember waiting eagerly for the release in the cinema and was very keen on reading up on it going through various articles at the time - And the ideas that FOX and the filmmakers had which really intrigued me were the ones by William Gibson, Vincent Ward, and Renny Harlin - The cornfield idea was from Vincent Ward's version, which was on a wooden planet, and this version was a complete horror movie version in the realms of something Satanic like THE OMEN and CHILDREN OF THE CORN etc etc. This was a frightening one but the studio let Vincent Ward go. I loved the Renny Harlin version which was the Earth set one which had an 'ALien train', and some warped horrific visions by HR Giger. When Fincher came on board the idea was screwed up and not great. Fans and audiences ripped it apart, the scale and look of it didn't compare to the previous movies. Things improved when RESURRECTION came out, which went back the more science fiction feal with a bit of fun (Yes it got great reviews at the time). However the quality of movies has dropped since then, and now I look at ALIEN3 with affection, it's not the worst in the series anymore, that title goes to COVEnANT and PROMEthEUS.
The directors cut of 3 is tremendous
There's no director's cut
@@evgenigradinar2731 assembly cut then.
The story of aliens on Earth could go only 2 ways
1. Realistic - fool scale war and humanity lose at the end.
2. Unrealistic (corn field) - Aliens for some reason would be present only in one location.
Guess what would they have chosen.
i pick Number 1 idea over Number 2 idea because number 2 is a bad idea
Always like A3 directors cut, i think its more in tone to Alien compated to Aliens which was a mid action movie
A mid action movie ??
Wow.😂
My brother and I recently watched the Assembly Cut. We thoroughly enjoyed it. I do enjoy both versions but I enjoy the Assembly Cut much more.
Isn't Sigourney Weaver on record saying she just wasn't interested in a Xenomorphs on Earth film? The Vincent Ward treatment for Alien 3 would have been incredible. The William Gibson treatment would have been an Aliens-esque blast (with elements of the Thing for good measure). Interestingly, elements from both these treatments have turned up in later Alien films - not least the cornfields (from Ward) and infections (from Gibson) in Covenant. A Quiet Place is an excellent aliens on Earth film, but you have to go micro - drill down into a single, essentially finite, location - the farm and farm house. So it can be done - just within boundaries.
Alien³ holds a special place in my heart. I love how dark and atmospheric the whole movie feels.
I am glad that the work print of Alien 3 is out there, because to see that other version of the movie is pretty fascinating.
'Took place in cornfields'?? Is that how Marvel comics grab that idea and made a comic series few years ago?
Excellent videos brother and Alien and Aliens are amongst my favorite movies and sci-fi genre. Keep up the great work and we support you brother.
Alien 3 is a good example of a movie sequel that had writers at a creative standstill
Directors cut is my favourite 💯
I had a very vivid dream after watching Aliens. The Aliens were jettisoned down in cryogenic pods onto my school yard and we were all standing around looking at them through the frosted glass. Then the glass doors started to raise and everyone made a panicked scramble for the exits 😂
I remember seeing a short teaser trailer in the theater for Alien 3 and it being set on Earth. I can't recall the exact text but it was a play on the original "In space nobody can hear you scream". I was excited for that. Then the movie finally came out and it was a stinking pile of shit. I HATED, HATED, HATED it!! I've spent the decades since trying to unsee it. What a spectacular way to torpedo a fantastic series.
"On Earth everyone can hear you scream"
I remember the original dark horse comics had that happened it made the most sense!!
I think a perfect example of changing the aesthetic of a movie and having it work and keeping it in your universe is terminator one and terminator two terminator one was more of a sci-fi horror, and terminator two was definitely more straight up sci-fi with a complete different field, but managed to blow everybody out of the water so it’s possible if done, correct
I think it would’ve been aesthetically jarring to go from the Nostromo to Hadley’s Hope to…. A farm in the Midwest of the US. Seeing Xenomorphs in any environment that feels even remotely contemporary just doesn’t sell for me personally. Even if the characters feel relatable. If it had an incredibly industrial, lived in future, aesthetic outside of the cornfield then maybe it could’ve worked. but I just don’t see how Ripley, Hicks, and Newt would’ve logically ended up involved in the scenario in a farm somewhere.
I love alien 3. I love the score, the plot, the sets and atmosphere and setting itself. The acting was superb. I also loved tales of the wooden planet and Cameron's idea for alien 3 as well. That film went through pure hell and I appreciate it for what we got. I also loved the ending. Alien 3 brought the Ripley story full circle.
In the words of Micheal Beihn "FUUUUCK ALIEN 3"
Adam Gibson script should have been the Alien 3 movie we deserved
wasnt there a comic called the earth war and it was a hit with the alien fans ?
I would think most young fans at the time were terrified of Alien as i was and had nightmares and thoughts of Xenomorphs on earth. I always envisioned on in the house. After Aliens i assumed a third one would take place on Earth