Nice mate, good to hear there are a few more quad guys out there, hope the waves have been good over there. Friend of mine just moved to Aussie and loving it.
Cheers, yeah i'm excited to see if it goes as well as I hope. It's hard to get everything how you want it and I really like how this one came out so fingers crossed that translates into good performance in the water.
Hi. Yet to ride it unfortunately no waves but hoping it goes well as I'm happy with how it's come out. Build quality I would say is very good for a back yard builder. Im no pro but I try very hard to ensure everything is as good as I can get it. All fin boxes are glued in and reinforced properly and I double filler coat and sand the delicate parts by hand to achieve as good a detail as possible. The durability has been great. I have made 20 plus boards now and a few local surfers have them and they have been holding up really well. The combination of PU blank and epoxy resin is a good option for strength and feel. My boards are general a little heavier than shop boards so not necessarily quite as light to throw around they are made with more glass and quality materials so much better than any pop out and will way outlast many shop boards for durability. Will try to give a ride update once I have had a few rides. Thanks to your interest. Appreciate you taking time to watch a video on boards I make myself. As I say definitely no pro shaper but I'm proud to do it myself start to finish. Almost every template is a one off and I spend around 40 hours on each board. Definitely not viable to make any money but a rewarding process and nice to ride something you made yourself and have the freedom to make it how you want it. Cheers.
Cheers. Glad to hear i'm not the only one :-) lol Everyone that I know loves them in all the seaside models and other boards as well. I think everyone is ga ga for twin fins at the moment as well and they just dont work for me. Probably more just me but Quads are my favorite set up.
@@lawson45uk I tried them in my seaside several times and just didn’t like them. I’m a quad man as well (XL performers in the front and quad carvers in the back ) are what work for me in most boards. Just bought a slater designs flat earth but only surfed once (twin plus stabiliser) as I like they setup as well. Tried twin fin on my sweet potato 2 last Sunday and must be honest I struggled. Need to get used to surfing twins or just stick with twin plus trailer as I really like that setup. Nice board mate, looks like your shaping is really coming on !
@@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews Yeah I totally hear you mate.. Tail shape and fin position makes a big difference too. I had an MR Cali twin. That had the wing in the tail with the fins where they should actually be for a twin and trailer set up and it felt completely different to just throwing those same fins in a five fin set up. Only thing I find on step tails especially with a twin and trailer set up is to get a consistently good feel you have to have your back foot consistently in the right spot which is kinda good as it forces you to do what your supposed to anyway to get good results. I like the flat earth design. Would need a decent wave.. Potatos are deliberately designed with a lot of surface area at the back so I feel you have to put some fin where the surface area is to get them to work. again I have mates that ride them as twins but I always go the split keel on that type of board. Or even the twin and 2 trailers. Funny looking set up but 2 x AMT twins with 2 of the trailers in the quad boxes works great on my bean bag. Be keen to hear how you like the new potato I always loved the original one just wander if the new one adds to or takes away from the way the old one worked. I often wonder if changing the tail can still give you all the speed and grovel and still make turning easier or if you end up taking away some of the low end ability. Great looking board though I would love one but think it would cross over with my bean bag and send me down that track of trying to fix something that's not broken :-) lol
@@lawson45uk yeah I had the previous version and I think I preferred it for the very reason you stated. That bud wide tail and the fact that the board liked a quad set up. The new sweet potato is a good board but I wished I had gone smaller. My previous version was 5’11 and 47 ish litres. The SP2 is 6’0 and 49l. Whilst it’s fantastic for grovelling (last weekend I surfed 1.5 foot fistral and got 23 waves in two hours) , it definitely isn’t as responsive as the SP1. BUT that could also be the extra 2litres of foam? Either way for me the SP1 was a more responsive board.
@@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews Oh interesting your in that same volume range as me. Yeah there funny wee monkeys for volume aye....I had 5'11" Sweet and it was magic. 5'8" i tried and didn't like as much then the Baked Spud I had 5'11" and it was aweful but the 5'9" was amazing!! I think the Sweet can carry a little more volume than the baked and get away with it but there is definitely a tipping zone. I was worried about the same on the Seaside wanted the 6'0" but was worried about that much volume in a helium. I looked at a 5'11" SP2 in the shop and thought that looked about right again. Perhaps you can swap it out if you see a mint one second hand at a good price. Be plenty of people wanting to go down up up a size in boards like that i'm sure they are hard to get right too.
I think you made a really great board friend, only I would use it twin with EN futures fins, to increase the speed, looseness and maneuverability lacking in the mid lengths, and I would close the other fins boxes. I believe that the more you spend time on it, the more you will do incredibly fluid things that fill your spirit and heart, it happened to me with a board of measures very similar to yours, the first releases I understood it (used to my fish and my pyzalien2) then after almost a month that I inserted fins in the 5 boxes, between quad single thruster, twin has changed my way, now I am inseparable ... Congratulations, a really good job.
Hey mate. Thanks. People seem to have like the mids once they get used to riding them a little differently. Like you say takes a little time to get that fluidity going and not force the board like it's shorter than it is. EN's are good fins. I'm a believer in ideally making the fins and fin position suit the board design and sticking to one or two options ideally. I have made a couple of twin and trailer for a friend too that were specific to that MR style twin and trailer. Been out on this one a few times now only had small and poor quality waves but it's feeling really good. In early and smooth to ride. Takes a long time to get some of the features shaped really cleanly. I personally struggle to ride the twins which is why I made this a quad. Only really put a single in just to have that option and in case I was wanting to sell it but definitely keeping this one. I actually got a bit more tail area into this one and similar volume to the Sunday too so it's not bad for drive. Easier to keep momentum than anything I have had off the shelf so far. Thanks for your comments and support mate, much appreciated.
@@lawson45uk yes I understand, thanks to you for your videos, surely your experience of testing and surfing in general is much superior to mine, I had tried to make some myself but with poor results. Interestingly, it has left the tail wider and certainly by using it quad it gets more grip and performance. Mine is an elemnt wildcat 7 '(a board that was unknown to me and bought only for the price on a trip to the canary islands) it has a good rocker, but the tail is narrower (round pin) maybe that's why twin works well. I have been dreaming of a 'mote surfboard' for years but here in Europe it is almost impossible to get one ..... again congratulations and good surfing
@@user-uu1ql5bf4v Ah that's interesting... There seems to be a bit of a mix up on the web. I found the RJ twin labeled up as a Wildcat the RJ looks to be designed as a twin or twin and trailer shape and fin position. I see they have the Wildcat as a 4 plus 1 as you say and they also have some dedicated pure twins now. The double Yolk?? Guess that's maybe taken the Wildcat and modified it to be exactly what you are saying a dedicated twin. That looks a bit more pulled in at the tail too. Yeah I think pulling the tail in can be good for twins. The twins give the drive and the pulled in tail gives a bit of grip back. There nice shapes the Element boards. They have them in our local shop. Has the construction been good and durable? If it works for you and you like the feel that's everything you need mate. Virtually everyone I know loves twins. Seems to just be me that struggles to gel with them unfortunately lol but i'm really pleased with my own version and lucky it came out how I wanted. As you say it's definitely not easy making your own. Few scrubs and a bit of chasing any inperfections around suddenly it's not what you wanted anymore. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk yes, i am referring to wildcat 4 + 1 eps, tail pulled, runs very tight, great sturdy glass, unfortunately made in china but they wrote it ... surely a wider tail matches quad or twin channel's better, let us know yours opinions how you feel with your creation, cheers
@@user-uu1ql5bf4v Yeah nice they actually have some really nice shapes and the volumes and rockers are sensible too which is great. Had considered them myself a few times after looking at them in store so good to know the construction is decent too. Not necessarily anything wrong with made in china just has to be using good materials and have good quality procedures. I have been disappointed with a few in the past but the same can be said for other much more expensive brands with certain constructions. The boys in the local shop also said feedback had been pretty good on the elements. Yeah I agree. Especially in terms in behind the fins. I think if you have a big area behind the front fins and no features or fins to control it your likely to have a slippery board. Probably is why a lot of twin designs have swallow tails, step tails and round tails to help maintain control but i'm no expert. There are lots of amazing shapers out there who know how to combine elements of the design to make everything work well. Glad you found a board and fin set up you love and it's giving you plenty of wave time that's what its all about to be happy and keep progressing. Cheers.
Well, 'Captain America' is definitely the model name in my eyes mate!!!! Keen to try it out here in Australia, East Coast..... I'm a quad guy 👍
Nice mate, good to hear there are a few more quad guys out there, hope the waves have been good over there. Friend of mine just moved to Aussie and loving it.
Nice job...
Cheers mate :-)
Looks epic - looking forward to hearing how it goes in the water
Cheers, yeah i'm excited to see if it goes as well as I hope. It's hard to get everything how you want it and I really like how this one came out so fingers crossed that translates into good performance in the water.
how does it ride? and how is the build quality, durability?.... - the key questions
Hi. Yet to ride it unfortunately no waves but hoping it goes well as I'm happy with how it's come out. Build quality I would say is very good for a back yard builder. Im no pro but I try very hard to ensure everything is as good as I can get it. All fin boxes are glued in and reinforced properly and I double filler coat and sand the delicate parts by hand to achieve as good a detail as possible. The durability has been great. I have made 20 plus boards now and a few local surfers have them and they have been holding up really well. The combination of PU blank and epoxy resin is a good option for strength and feel. My boards are general a little heavier than shop boards so not necessarily quite as light to throw around they are made with more glass and quality materials so much better than any pop out and will way outlast many shop boards for durability. Will try to give a ride update once I have had a few rides. Thanks to your interest. Appreciate you taking time to watch a video on boards I make myself. As I say definitely no pro shaper but I'm proud to do it myself start to finish. Almost every template is a one off and I spend around 40 hours on each board. Definitely not viable to make any money but a rewarding process and nice to ride something you made yourself and have the freedom to make it how you want it. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk love your channel. And your approach to the content
I didn’t like the machado quads either
Cheers. Glad to hear i'm not the only one :-) lol Everyone that I know loves them in all the seaside models and other boards as well. I think everyone is ga ga for twin fins at the moment as well and they just dont work for me. Probably more just me but Quads are my favorite set up.
@@lawson45uk I tried them in my seaside several times and just didn’t like them. I’m a quad man as well (XL performers in the front and quad carvers in the back ) are what work for me in most boards. Just bought a slater designs flat earth but only surfed once (twin plus stabiliser) as I like they setup as well. Tried twin fin on my sweet potato 2 last Sunday and must be honest I struggled. Need to get used to surfing twins or just stick with twin plus trailer as I really like that setup.
Nice board mate, looks like your shaping is really coming on !
@@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews Yeah I totally hear you mate.. Tail shape and fin position makes a big difference too. I had an MR Cali twin. That had the wing in the tail with the fins where they should actually be for a twin and trailer set up and it felt completely different to just throwing those same fins in a five fin set up. Only thing I find on step tails especially with a twin and trailer set up is to get a consistently good feel you have to have your back foot consistently in the right spot which is kinda good as it forces you to do what your supposed to anyway to get good results. I like the flat earth design. Would need a decent wave.. Potatos are deliberately designed with a lot of surface area at the back so I feel you have to put some fin where the surface area is to get them to work. again I have mates that ride them as twins but I always go the split keel on that type of board. Or even the twin and 2 trailers. Funny looking set up but 2 x AMT twins with 2 of the trailers in the quad boxes works great on my bean bag. Be keen to hear how you like the new potato I always loved the original one just wander if the new one adds to or takes away from the way the old one worked. I often wonder if changing the tail can still give you all the speed and grovel and still make turning easier or if you end up taking away some of the low end ability. Great looking board though I would love one but think it would cross over with my bean bag and send me down that track of trying to fix something that's not broken :-) lol
@@lawson45uk yeah I had the previous version and I think I preferred it for the very reason you stated. That bud wide tail and the fact that the board liked a quad set up. The new sweet potato is a good board but I wished I had gone smaller. My previous version was 5’11 and 47 ish litres. The SP2 is 6’0 and 49l. Whilst it’s fantastic for grovelling (last weekend I surfed 1.5 foot fistral and got 23 waves in two hours) , it definitely isn’t as responsive as the SP1. BUT that could also be the extra 2litres of foam?
Either way for me the SP1 was a more responsive board.
@@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews Oh interesting your in that same volume range as me. Yeah there funny wee monkeys for volume aye....I had 5'11" Sweet and it was magic. 5'8" i tried and didn't like as much then the Baked Spud I had 5'11" and it was aweful but the 5'9" was amazing!! I think the Sweet can carry a little more volume than the baked and get away with it but there is definitely a tipping zone. I was worried about the same on the Seaside wanted the 6'0" but was worried about that much volume in a helium. I looked at a 5'11" SP2 in the shop and thought that looked about right again. Perhaps you can swap it out if you see a mint one second hand at a good price. Be plenty of people wanting to go down up up a size in boards like that i'm sure they are hard to get right too.
I think you made a really great board friend, only I would use it twin with EN futures fins, to increase the speed, looseness and maneuverability lacking in the mid lengths, and I would close the other fins boxes. I believe that the more you spend time on it, the more you will do incredibly fluid things that fill your spirit and heart, it happened to me with a board of measures very similar to yours, the first releases I understood it (used to my fish and my pyzalien2) then after almost a month that I inserted fins in the 5 boxes, between quad single thruster, twin has changed my way, now I am inseparable ... Congratulations, a really good job.
Hey mate. Thanks. People seem to have like the mids once they get used to riding them a little differently. Like you say takes a little time to get that fluidity going and not force the board like it's shorter than it is. EN's are good fins. I'm a believer in ideally making the fins and fin position suit the board design and sticking to one or two options ideally. I have made a couple of twin and trailer for a friend too that were specific to that MR style twin and trailer. Been out on this one a few times now only had small and poor quality waves but it's feeling really good. In early and smooth to ride. Takes a long time to get some of the features shaped really cleanly. I personally struggle to ride the twins which is why I made this a quad. Only really put a single in just to have that option and in case I was wanting to sell it but definitely keeping this one. I actually got a bit more tail area into this one and similar volume to the Sunday too so it's not bad for drive. Easier to keep momentum than anything I have had off the shelf so far. Thanks for your comments and support mate, much appreciated.
@@lawson45uk yes I understand, thanks to you for your videos, surely your experience of testing and surfing in general is much superior to mine, I had tried to make some myself but with poor results. Interestingly, it has left the tail wider and certainly by using it quad it gets more grip and performance. Mine is an elemnt wildcat 7 '(a board that was unknown to me and bought only for the price on a trip to the canary islands) it has a good rocker, but the tail is narrower (round pin) maybe that's why twin works well. I have been dreaming of a 'mote surfboard' for years but here in Europe it is almost impossible to get one ..... again congratulations and good surfing
@@user-uu1ql5bf4v Ah that's interesting... There seems to be a bit of a mix up on the web. I found the RJ twin labeled up as a Wildcat the RJ looks to be designed as a twin or twin and trailer shape and fin position. I see they have the Wildcat as a 4 plus 1 as you say and they also have some dedicated pure twins now. The double Yolk?? Guess that's maybe taken the Wildcat and modified it to be exactly what you are saying a dedicated twin. That looks a bit more pulled in at the tail too. Yeah I think pulling the tail in can be good for twins. The twins give the drive and the pulled in tail gives a bit of grip back. There nice shapes the Element boards. They have them in our local shop. Has the construction been good and durable? If it works for you and you like the feel that's everything you need mate. Virtually everyone I know loves twins. Seems to just be me that struggles to gel with them unfortunately lol but i'm really pleased with my own version and lucky it came out how I wanted. As you say it's definitely not easy making your own. Few scrubs and a bit of chasing any inperfections around suddenly it's not what you wanted anymore. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk yes, i am referring to wildcat 4 + 1 eps, tail pulled, runs very tight, great sturdy glass, unfortunately made in china but they wrote it ... surely a wider tail matches quad or twin channel's better, let us know yours opinions how you feel with your creation, cheers
@@user-uu1ql5bf4v Yeah nice they actually have some really nice shapes and the volumes and rockers are sensible too which is great. Had considered them myself a few times after looking at them in store so good to know the construction is decent too. Not necessarily anything wrong with made in china just has to be using good materials and have good quality procedures. I have been disappointed with a few in the past but the same can be said for other much more expensive brands with certain constructions. The boys in the local shop also said feedback had been pretty good on the elements. Yeah I agree. Especially in terms in behind the fins. I think if you have a big area behind the front fins and no features or fins to control it your likely to have a slippery board. Probably is why a lot of twin designs have swallow tails, step tails and round tails to help maintain control but i'm no expert. There are lots of amazing shapers out there who know how to combine elements of the design to make everything work well. Glad you found a board and fin set up you love and it's giving you plenty of wave time that's what its all about to be happy and keep progressing. Cheers.