I Love Filming In This No Train Horn Zone, Sooner Or Later Someone Will Crash!
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Iron Mountain, Michigan is my favorite city to film trains in because they have a NO TRAIN HORN law and no gates protecting railroad crossings that allow people to drive right thru activated crossings. Sooner or later I will catch an accident if I film here long enough.
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After the rich people started moving into my town, the sirens on the firehouses were silenced and some removed. Then the church bells were silenced. Now, no-horn-blow railroad crossings are coming! Am expecting they’ll silence ambulances and fire trucks next! We old timers have no say and are outnumbered!
I don't mind the train horns as much as I mind the privately owned vehicles that are equipped with overpowered sound systems. These thoughtless souls are capable of disturbing the peace wherever they drive.
The City of Saint John and NBSR established a No horn crossing on the line that connects to the port, watching NBSR heading to the port with a train of containers, the engineer laid on the horn big time. not sure why but was unusually funny. great work.
As for cars egnoring signals may not be your first stupid move but might b your last
Some day you're going to record a vehicle getting hit by the train.i can't believe how many people take a risk crossing in front of the train.
Then Jason will be the RR's best friend with that evidence for the lawsuit. Because you know in the idiot in the car's eyes it's always the trains fault!
I mean its going like 4 mph austin powers slow death scene
Props to the train operator for ignoring the (stupid, dangerous, ill-informed) law, and choosing instead to do the right (safe, correct) thing. He's a hero in my book. Hope he doesn't take any flack for it.
Bring back the train horns in no-horn zones! Safety first!
I left the U.P. 55 years ago all my U.P. family is gone now to hear your accent feels like home.
We have a railroad crossing on a major street near downtown. Fortunately, use of the train horn isn't prohibited. The trains creep through anyway. I can't recall any collisions, and I've lived here since '67.
I believe Smart Siding is a wood fiber product impregnated with resin. The smell you commented on may be the resin off gassing.
I’m like the guy in the black Suburban. I stop early sometimes so I can watch it cross.
FRA: “You must blow your horn or you’ll be fired, and held personally liable for injuries or deaths caused from your negligence to blow your horn!”
Also FRA: “Thank you for the donation, we will make 100% sure crews won’t blow at ANY crossing in your town.”
i like the no train horn zone best but still nothing beats an EMD thanks for sharing.i have a friend who lives in that town
The rain does make it look very green & lush though Jason, its the same in Ohio its had a fair bit of rain but everything is so green & growing fast. @Jaw Tooth said today in his video. ❤😍
Nice video. I miss Iron Mountain. Born in 66 left in 74. Lived on B st.
Oh a rainy Iron Mountain, a beautiful train to look at though! ❤😊 👋 Jason
How was a quiet zone authorized here? Those require supplementary safety measures like quad gates, and I don't even see regular gates.
As a Danish citizen I´m amazed how safety is underrated in America. Regulations are there for a reason.
THANK YOU! I was going to ask the same thing too but checked the comments first. The crossings don't even have basic crossing gates, much less four-way protection. Does somebody WANT to get their butts sued off when a collision happens?
I bet the folks who live in the houses a sidewalk distance away from the tracks can appreciate the no horn rule.
Thank you for the video this day. Always interesting to watch! See you on the next, Jason! 👍🙂🇺🇸
Course there's always gonna be some jackass who complains about the train horns
Just so you know, trains have to honk before a road, they have to honk thru the road...so when you have streets like this, it will be a constant horn all the way, even at that slow speed.
Seems odd to watch these trains moving so slowly. I retired from Southern Pacific. Our slowest trains were 65, unless you had a restricted car. We also went 70mph if going toward San Francisco. As a brakeman I once caught Amtrak as a fireman out of Yuma to West Colton. Amtrak's speed at that time was 79 mph.
Wow finally logs going north on a big way!! 17 cars.
Back to odd numbers again !!!
They can blow the whistle if they are coming to a crossing to avoid a accident they just the have to report it immediately to the train dispatcher the crossing location and time and the reason.
What gets me about this, according to BNSF (the train company in my state), no horn crossings have to have divided lanes, besides cross arms. I see absolutely no crossing arms on any of these intersections. I live way out in the country, and every crossing out here has crossing arms. I'm shocked they don't have any crossing arms here, especially in the no horn zone...totally crazy.
I'm out in the sticks too, most rural crossings have a sign and that's it.
In San Diego, the FRA de-authorized the downtown NO HORN zone north of San Diego station for three weeks even though the tracks are plied by both frequent LRT trains and passenger trains, and there are gates at every intersection. Then we have this situation in Iron Mountain, MI. The FRA's justification for San Diego was that too many pedestrians run across the tracks--as if that should be a railroad problem. There's no fixing stupid.
But a life is more important than a train. They should stop and protect. As freight traffic in the country continues to dwindle to truck, the time to stop and protect won't make any difference.
@@SWITCHMASHER Most rail traffic in San Diego is passenger, including LRT. Railroading is thriving in southern California like never before. Stopping passenger trains and LRT is illogical.
Someone should report this to the same person at the FRA that investigated San Diego's Quiet Zone.
I do wonder if the low speed of the trains had something to do with it, but there's definitely something fishy with this one.
@@stphinkle - The rail speed limit in the NO HORN ZONE in downtown SD is only 15 MPH. That E&LS train looks to be going about 30 MPH, and it is a heavy freight train, not a 6 car Surfliner.
I love that there is a no horn zone in the first part of the video but i love watching train videos because we have trains here in New Zealand
I am suprised that they allowed this to be a quiet zone without 4-quadrant gate systems, and no "No Left / Right" turn lights for the road parallel to the tracks.
I enjoyed that video👍👍
You can Blur out the Taxicab details in Post production from your editing software in the phone. Don't let them advertise for free. Ask Jason about the Rates.....😊 7:32
Nice job Jason 👍
17 colors of logs going back along with yet another car of glue apparently when you're cranking out that much siding they really burn through it so the one car train is almost like those Auto Parts cars where they are just in time deliveries or the plant shuts down
Great vid Jason - like the longer ones you do
Great video. You earned a sub toward 100,000.
Nicely done, Jason. Enjoy the back stories you share!
Seems you may still be a bit under the weather, feel better!
It could be the glue they use
It is my carefully considered opinion that A) quiet zones outside of major population centers are stupid & B) quiet zones MUST have well maintained and perhaps even specially designed gates that block roads sooner than regular ones.
they're supposed to have proper gates, and quiet zone status SHOULDN'T mean trains cannot use their horns if someone is being an idiot.
@@themagitechie9955 I don't know what constitutes "proper" gates to you, but I don't mean the usual one on one side of the tracks and one on the other. I mean literally complete road blockage on both sides of the track with something more substantial than a flimsy arm with a couple of lights on it.
That crazy clanging can drive anyone insane. So glad I live where we can see trains approaching. Hearing them is optional.
Nice trains, thank Jason, I look forward to your videos
Perfect leveled tracks. Nice vid!
Pressure treated lumber under the wrappings - distinctive odor.
They should add gates. But always it's important to look both ways
Always enjoy these, Jason. I pity the crew having to run long nose forward
good train video
Dang it! I was hoping that Ford would make a left in front of the coming train. Thinking about working for GP in Corrigan TX
There can only be a nonsensical reason for a no-horn zone.
It's called, "Culling the herd" or "Mercy Killing"! Sorry, Zucchiniburg ! Offends your 'delicate senses', feel free, to step in front of a "HIGHBALLING", SD 90, and hold up your hand!
Seems like LP has really ramped up production, and where are they logging all that timber from?
I’m a new subscriber watching from Honolulu Hawaii
You only have lava trains going through lava tunnels to cross.
Those houses so close must be the cheapest houses in the city........$20,000. not $200,000
All of those crossings are a crash waiting to happen. No gates, no median to keep cars from crossing, and no signs(presumably) saying it's a No Train Horn Zone. I hate these "quiet zones'' with a passion. Waste of money and time, and if some Idiot decided to go through the red signals, especially where the building on the right blocks your view of any approaching train, a collision is almost certain.
You just proved why "bicycle riders" are so dam stupid! You state no no no no EXCEPT FOR THE SIGNALS....tards, like you, will ALWAYS ignore lights,signs, signals, crossing gates ect.
I wish I could put a stop to the ruthless engine drivers that pass my house and blow their horns as annoyingly as possible at all hours. Some of them blow their horns respectfully with a little da.......da......dah. And others blare them with what sounds like a half mile of blahhhhhhhhh.blahhhhhhhhh.blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhj. It's like the driver wants to share his miserable life with everyone who lives near the tracks. I can see why they have a no horn zone in that town.
"one day, but that day is NOT today." But, yes, it WILL happen.
Why are Americans so obsessed with train horns? Here in Germany, and I think all over Europe, train horns are only used at crossings without gates or lights. And there is even a bell on the crossing and on the train, and the train is going really slowly. So why would you need the horn?
When I see Videos of American trains, the excessive use of the horn always seems very ridiculous to me, especially at crossings with lights, gates and bells.
Because multiple studies done by the FRA (Federal Railroad Administration show that train horns reduce the number of crossing accidents. When the horns stopped being sounded at many crossings, it often resulted in 2x-3x the number or crossing accidents. I think this is because the sound of a train horn instantly puts the image of a train into someones head. Or because it tells people the train is close, and people are not as willing to try and beat it then.
Another reason is if a crossing has two or more tracks, the possibly of a second train showing up after the first appears. A second train sounding it's horn tells people another train is approching, so people are much less likely to immedietly drive across when the first train ends. Even in quiet zones where train horns are banned, trains are allowed to sound horns when passing another train at a crossing.
Basically, it's proven to save lives.
In countries with fenced and gated tracks, horn blowing isn't so important. And in some, not used at all for crossings. In the US they have the mandatory 2x long, 1 short, 1 long for every crossing. It does seem somewhat over the top to those of us outside the USA, especially through towns with closely-spaced crossings. But that's how it is.
In Australia it's usually one medium-length blast several hundred metres before the crossing and another, often shorter, just before the crossing. Seems to be to the discretion of the crew how long and frequent the horn is sounded.
America is LOADED with really bad drivers. Some are even Darwin Award winners. The excess horn blowing is an attempt to keep the body count low.
Is there a Diner along the route they can sneak off to? 😊
And a working FREDDIE!
That’s the stupidest quiet zone crossings I’ve seen on CZcams
Sneakery. LOL.
Darwin is waiting......
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Hi Jason 😊
Maybe he stopped to enjoy the train passing.
Not the worst way to run a train trough a town (the worst (in Germany totally unthinkable) way would be 100% on street like a 100+ years old tram line) ... this line of tracks is far better suited for a tram line (due to no train horn + many cropssings + the tram can break much faster) & in fact if you replace the train with a KTM5 tram and add a 2nd track it´s exactly like in Siberia of Russia ...
fraight train lines shuld be relocated outside the inhabited zones (especially city centers) zones and as many level crossings as possible should be removed (use bridges, sometimes tunnels)
Notice the big empty space under the frame. Looks like there is room for a second fuel tank of the same size.
Depends on what railroad owned the locomotive before
It could be an ex-Milwaukee Road locomotive.
In some cases, the original owner specified a smaller fuel tank to reduce the locomotive's weight for use on branch lines that still had lightweight jointed rail. Most of those lines have since been upgraded or abandoned.
What do you think most of the wood on that train will be used for? L
Tooth picks?
Why do so many take unnecessary risk just racing over the crossing?
A slowly moving train with a length of several miles takes ages to pass.
@@FrankHeuvelman well, that CERTAINLY makes the risk of losing your life worth it! At least you'll NEVER be in a hurry, again!
@@vernalc2449
I didn't say it was a valid argument.
@@FrankHeuvelman just emphasizing your point.
@@vernalc2449
Why? People in general don't listen anyway.
Most have a 'far from my bed' attitude towards real physical trauma. Wait, was that a pleonasm?
And what am I doing here in the first place..?
It must be nerve-racking to be a train engineer in America.
more nerve wracking for the railroad legal staff..railroads are favorite lawsuit targets. I installed grade-crossing cameras in locomotives as an electrician and did so in almost every locomotive shopped to our diesel shop just for that reason.
why? ever see trains in asia?
There is a bell ringing its head off, what else do you need?
horn is 120 dB at 100' , bell is 105 ish at the same distance.
lights barriers ,some people don't hear
Cars keep getting better at keeping "noise" out, that it impacts the ability to hear emergency vehicle sirens, the train horns, and truck horns, all of which are louder than that bell ringing.
A bell and a horn sound different to drivers.
The bell sounds like "Excuse me, there's a train approaching the crossing, it might be wise not to cross the track right now." whereas the horn sounds like "IM A F***ING TRAING GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN WAY!"
@@jhonbus if you can hear
Why is it that Americans need train horns when there are clearly waring signal that say stop? The Japanese who have the most successful and sophisticated rail systems in the world need no such horns at grade crossings.
There is a line in a famous musical which although not about trains does offer some explanation, "Tradition!" And then there's the factor of Americans not being Japanese.
The Japanese government has spent the equivalent of billions of dollars to eliminate many railroad crossings from major roads (with the exception of streetcars/trams of course) and replacing them with overpasses. Also, for the remaining crossings, all drivers in Japan are legally required to come to a complete stop and look both ways before proceeding.
There are major differences in societal norms between Japan and the United States. Respect for Authority, obeying The Rules, and concern for the safety and welfare of others have been ingrained in Japanese culture for thousands of years. America, on the other hand has many citizens who, although still in a minority (I hope), have little or no respect for authority, hate rules, hate government, consider themselves "entitled" to do anything they like, and have no concern for the safety or welfare of others. Plus, in the event a motorist causes an accident, here in the U.S. they are much more likely to sue the railroad for damages.
All true, but you still occasionally read or hear about some random Japanese guy running amuck with a sword or knife. Crazy and stupid are truly international.
@@evanstauffer4470 I've got a healthy distrust of authority, a healthy skepticism of arbitrary rules, a healthy distrust of government in general, but you best bet I'm stopping for a train, because trains don't care about any of the aforementioned.
SD40-2!?
Pembine? Hey I've been through there!!!
Escanaba & Lake Superior?
What A Stupid Crossing With No Gates. You Have Some Nice 4k Train Videos. Nobody Watches My Channel
Gates arextremely expen$ive and require frequent inspection and maintenence. Unneeded. Mee-mool lights *(o)T(o)* not enough warning for you?
Do you expect gates at Stop signs or even at traffic lights? The Railroad Crossing crossbuck on its own really should be enough for people to slow down and check for trains before crossing and treat like any other intersection without traffic lights. Flashing lights were originally only used at busier crossings so that everybody didn't need to slow down and look for trains which would hold up traffic. But now they're expected everywhere.
Needs more cowbell
They need to make it a Federal Law that Trains Need to Blow Horns at ALL Crossings. No Exceptions. No Train Horn Zone are the Dumbest Thing Ever and Should be Illegal Everywhere and Lawmakers should be Ashamed of themselves For even allowing this to Continue.
Advance yellow *(RXR)* and mee-mool lights
*(o)T(o)* arenough warning. No need for horns blasting everywhere and not at just the grade crossing.
Ho-lee-$%#%*&!!!!! What did they do? Chop down an entire forest to load that one train??!!
Pulpwood is like corn...planted, quick growth, harvest. Slash pines, loblolly, etc grow in a decade or two. Replanted and thick green land two years later.
I know where that's at, I know where this is at also.
Replacing most of the far to many level crossings in America with bridges or viaducts is the key to getting rid of those noisy bells and horns in railway dinosaur land. Add to it overhead catenary, and the diesel engines will disappear too.
Building bridges and viaducts cost money.
Money that the shareholders prefer to put into their pockets as dividend.
It's called capitalism.
@FrankHeuvelman Sure, and thanks to the tax cuts they don't even pay their fair share of taxes. That is how much America loves it's super rich and doesn't care about infrastructure.
Where are you going to get the electricity when the Americans are tearing down their power plants and trying to cover their land with windmills that are already getting destroyed by their tornados? They want everyone to drive electric cars at the same time that they tell people not to charge them to avoid blackouts.
@@allenra530Electrified freight trains are not a new invention. They are profitable in many other countries and have been so even before most of the windmills were built.
@@allenra530 You're such a GOOD, LOYAL, and OBEDIENT magaT cultist! Repeating what #Vonshitzenpants says, word for word. You forgot to add that windmills kill whales and refineries NEVER blow up, catch fire, or FAIL as they did in Texas a couple of years ago because BIG OIL didn't want to spend the money winterizing them!
It's been a long time since 501 was an EMD Demo unit. I think ELS should repaint it, and 502 like 503, green & orange. What do you think Jason?
Is it owned or leased? If leased, the lessor might not permit painting.
@erie910 E&LS owns all the logos on their roster. They did lease each of 500-503 to start, but eventuality paid them off in a lease-purchase type agreement.
BTW, 501 was not a demonstrator unit. It was built as MILW 22 in '73. Then became SOO 6306 after it bought remains of MILW. SOO traded thex-MILW unit for newer power, which EMD placed in their lease fleet as 6306 after some refreshing. See the "EMD Leasing" is still on cab sides. The unit was sold to Independent Leasing service, from which E&LS ultimately purchased the unit.
IF.... if E&LS had the cashflow for paint, that $ would be better spent on track maintenance. A properly performed strip, prep & paint application takes a Loco OOS for about 2 weeks & runs about $100k each.
Yes, I agree if they have the money, ELS should improve their physical plant first! That is more important than repainting equipment.
What I can't understand is why isn't our Governor & the State of Michigan doing more to improve the RR's to insure the safety of our towns, against Hazmat spills, like the one in East Palistne, Ohio?
@@joebliss3609Why?……(Democrats)
This is why no horn zones should be banned by the FRA, public complaints be damned. Because there's always that one idiot that thinks it's funny to try and beat the train across the grade crossing.
If people don't like hearing a train horn at grade crossings when they're trying to sleep, they shouldn't have bought a house within such close proximity to the tracks. It's that freaking simple.