Ep. 339 - Genocide, Apartheid, and the Cheapening of Words | Fireside Chat

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    Dennis was brought to Washington, D.C. to debate those who claim Israel is an apartheid state that is committing genocide. The left understands that if you say anything enough-no matter how crazy, absurd, or factually incorrect it may be-people will believe it. That is why they toss around terms like “racism,” “apartheid,” and “genocide” without any regard for their true meaning. The left is cheapening words, destroying language, and with it, truth itself.
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Komentáře • 93

  • @lustforlow-end6022
    @lustforlow-end6022 Před měsícem +22

    I’m amazed by how many times I’ve heard that Israel is an apartheid state. The truth is that it’s the only place in that region that isn’t an apartheid state!!

    • @sarahmyob6862
      @sarahmyob6862 Před 28 dny

      They better be, they have enough charity going that way! 14k Palestinian CHILDREN have PERISHED in Gaza over the last couple of months! Remember that from your place of comfort! Don't bank all your eggs on an earthly retirement and neglect your eternal retirement through Jesus! Isreal wasn't around during the time of Jesus! It was Palestine! I am not anti isreal but I am pro childrens rights and BASIC human rights! After everything these Beautiful Children have endured, they're still so well adjusted and articulate! They're all so kind to one another! The kids truly amaze me by how Sweet and Kind they still are& kids who've stepped up to the plate at 7,8,9yrs old to care for younger siblings.. You would half expect them to be emotionally damaged but many of them are more mature than the adults from the opposition! Their parents definitely raised well adjusted kids! You can always tell from where someone is coming from by the fruits they produce. And I'm NOT talking about matetial world fruits.. I'm talking about fruit of the soul! Those CHILDREN are Precious unto the Lord!! 💜🕊🙏🏽

    • @ultramarineblue-mq7fp
      @ultramarineblue-mq7fp Před 21 dnem +3

      What about the city of Hebron in the West Bank? Under international law that land belongs to Palestine, and yet their are roads in the town that only Jewish drivers can use, security check points in the street to control the movement of only Palestinian citizens. The IDF have a right to enter your home. These are classic examples of apartheid and segregation.
      Plus under Israeli law Arabic is now officially secondary to Hebrew despite the fact that when the British established the state Hebrew, Arabic and English were given equal status.
      In Gaza, Israeli authorities do not allow the inhabitants to swim in the sea.
      Maybe you haven’t seen the apartheid because the apartheid wasn’t directed at you. Just a thought 🫶💕

    • @dolev-wq3si
      @dolev-wq3si Před 20 dny +1

      @@ultramarineblue-mq7fp The hebron agreement (witdrawl of the IDF from hebron) didnt go through because the jews and muslims have an important site in hebron called The Cave of the Patriarchs, hebron is really important to both jews and muslims but terrorism is very common in the area and the idf are there to protect mainly the jewish people of hebron (also this is why there are so many security checks). about arabic being second to hebrew i mean out of almost 10M people in israel about 2M - 3M are arabs (not including gaza and area A in the west bank). im not so sure if when you said "British established the state Hebrew, Arabic and English were given equal status" if you where talking about the british mandate or the UN partition plan so if you could explain more about that. in gaza (before the war idk what is now allowed) the people living there are allowed to swin and also fish in the sea just not too far because of security reasons (basically out of fear that terrorists will try to enter israel which still happend on october 7). all in all there is no specific law in israel that is discriminating towards the muslims of israel.

    • @dolev-wq3si
      @dolev-wq3si Před 20 dny +1

      @@ultramarineblue-mq7fp Hebron is 80% palastinian control and 20% idf control. hebron is important to both jews and arabs because of the cave of the patriarchs and terror attacks are very common in hebron which is the main reason for all of the security checks and restrictions. israel's population is almost 10M and out of that about 2M - 3M people are arab (not including area A) so it makes sense that hebrew is the main language. im not so sure about the british giving equal status for hebrew arabic and english but if we are talking about apartheid did you know that in the british mandate, the white paper stated that jews are not allowed to buy land in the british mandate and immigration of jews and holocaust survivors was limited? what you said about gaza is very stupid and not true, in gaza (before the war) the people could swim and also fish in the sea for food and money, it was limited tho because of fear that terrorists will enter israel (which still happend in october 7). an apartheid country is a country that in its laws has a law that is deliberately discriminating a specific group, israel has no such laws and israeli arabs have full rights and they can vote and have representatives in the Knesset.

    • @EbluestarE
      @EbluestarE Před 17 dny

      @@ultramarineblue-mq7fplisten this person ^

  • @stinger4712
    @stinger4712 Před měsícem +24

    No word has been cheapened more than antisemitic and antisemitism.

    • @rudyv3129
      @rudyv3129 Před měsícem

      no shit, the terrorist murdered approximately 2,000 people and people call it antisemitism. Israel massacres 30,000+ people and refuses to call it a genocide

    • @JH-rk9gd
      @JH-rk9gd Před 24 dny

      Racism is up there

  • @BenjaminThomas-me3nm
    @BenjaminThomas-me3nm Před měsícem +8

    South Africa has become a third world hell since the end of apartheid

  • @yingyifan7851
    @yingyifan7851 Před měsícem +3

    I'm learning and know how they lie...

  • @jeffreybaker7406
    @jeffreybaker7406 Před měsícem +2

    God bless you for all you do!

  • @yingyifan7851
    @yingyifan7851 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for teaching, analysis and sharing. ❤

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Před měsícem +4

    PRAGERU!!!!!

  • @ferdinanddaratenas3447
    @ferdinanddaratenas3447 Před měsícem +9

    They did it also with words like "fascism", "racism", "white supremacy", "patriarchy" and so on. In Israel's case they started with "occupation" (which is debatable but not unreasonable), then they realized it didn't achieve practical results so they moved to "apartheid", but it didn't make much impact on the ground. So now the code word is "genocide" and almost nobody takes them seriously. After a while these words lose any meaning, like the boy who cried wolf. After this hyperbolic accusation they have nothing left.

    • @carolynnunes3922
      @carolynnunes3922 Před měsícem

      They have what they’ve slways had: their twisted form of martrydom!
      A Christian sees martyrdom as dying for their personal faith and belief in Jesus Christ as their savior. For Muslims, killing others and dying while doing it is their form of martyrdom! Totally different motives and scenarios!

    • @toniwhy8415
      @toniwhy8415 Před měsícem

      Never about the man made system or what type like cap or social or whatever, it is always between God vs the world, which countries are not sinning against God? We are sinning against God with wall crimes by using wall to gain good life in America. And the “Juice” is doing sin to God and innocent, God will Judge the “Juice” is real

  • @TexasWildcat
    @TexasWildcat Před měsícem +2

    Trust me, if a country attacks the US, these countries actions
    would be devastating to our country, especially being
    caught off guard! Eveyone pays for the stupid actions
    of others and they will suffer the consequences!!🤔🙄😭😭

  • @JH-rk9gd
    @JH-rk9gd Před 24 dny

    My wife is from Iran and lived in Haifa, she wishes the accusations were true

  • @freemyboitrump
    @freemyboitrump Před měsícem +12

    AMERICA FIRST

    • @toniwhy8415
      @toniwhy8415 Před měsícem +1

      God First

    • @freemyboitrump
      @freemyboitrump Před měsícem +3

      @@toniwhy8415 not your God

    • @toniwhy8415
      @toniwhy8415 Před měsícem +3

      @@freemyboitrump My God is Lord Jesus Christ

    • @toniwhy8415
      @toniwhy8415 Před měsícem +1

      @@freemyboitrump without God America is nothing, like the past Israel and now

    • @Yofi12
      @Yofi12 Před měsícem

      G'd never abounded Israel😂 if he did we would've been destroyed long ago​@@toniwhy8415

  • @abdulrahmmanabbad1723
    @abdulrahmmanabbad1723 Před 27 dny +1

    4:30 you forgot to add the word anti-Semitism in

  • @francispitts9440
    @francispitts9440 Před měsícem

    It’s not far fetched that they would remove you. They are currently doing it.

  • @samsonvaliaparambil4709
    @samsonvaliaparambil4709 Před měsícem +6

    Dennis Prager, Thank you for enlightening us with your wisdom. God Bless you abundantly.

  • @stephanc6138
    @stephanc6138 Před měsícem

    for media who uses such world loosely
    those still thinking, trained to adapt. either double take or disregard considering who its from. basically not to listen to them.

  • @androcracy
    @androcracy Před měsícem +4

    God bless you Dennis! God Bless Israel in Jesus name.
    We resist all the fake Christians & liars who pretend to love Jesus but hate Israel. If that is you… you need to read your bible!

  • @Amyella1
    @Amyella1 Před měsícem

    Do unto others as you would have done unto you

    • @TorontoJon
      @TorontoJon Před měsícem

      If only Hamas believed that.
      It's simple: If the Palestinians laid down their arms and refused to terrorize Israel, there would be peace. If Israelis laid down their arms, they would be annihilated by Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and the Iranian regime. There would be no Israel, so it's simplistic to say, "Do unto others as you would have done unto you."

    • @arronfrazier7873
      @arronfrazier7873 Před měsícem

      If that was the case, those whites calling themselves Jews in majority in now Israel would have never came there in the late 1800's to colonize that land. That goes for the West the last few hundred years since leaving Europe in the late 1400's.

  • @MollyOKami
    @MollyOKami Před měsícem +1

    FOR THE ALGORITHM!

  • @Letsplay222
    @Letsplay222 Před měsícem +8

    It is an Apartheid state. There are 5 million Palestinians without rights living within Israel's borders. If you want to say, "they aren't Israeli" ok fine, then give them their own state. And when I say "give them their own state" I mean not some demilitarized, economically crippled, Swiss cheese-geographied state that is always beholden to Israel.

  • @danielhopkins296
    @danielhopkins296 Před měsícem +3

    Dennis quickly brishes iver his phrase " mass murder incident"

  • @barneydenstad2148
    @barneydenstad2148 Před 26 dny +1

    Re pro-palestinian playing with words. A variation today is to have a counterweigh with Israeli accusations, feks from 7 / 10. . 1. Rape. Which Hamas did much 7 / 10. Israel had done many shady things to palestinians, but rape doesnt seems be any of it. But now, I heard a demand UN analyses how it was about IDF killings and rapeing... 2. We know all Hamas did many terrible things 7 / 10, aside of rapes; not least to children there. (I suppose they were sky high on drugs or adrenaline?). So now they have come with their own accusations: These provisorical graves around war hospitals, did contained lotsa of naked, bound and tortured children... Which is of course bs. Provisorical burials, of course they were there. Common enough in war hospitals... But tortured children and women, IF anybody did thus - it was surely Hamas. We know Hamas can be horrible to their political opponents. And IF IDF did such evil deeds, they wouldnt leave them in local graves to be found... They would either tidy up the bodies - or take the bodies out to bury in the desert... But Hamas wouldnt bother, as they work with terror as one of their weapons.

  • @Bobknowsthecraic
    @Bobknowsthecraic Před 29 dny +3

    I am a fan of your channel and I agree with most of your points but there is a lot of confusion about Zionism. The following is why millions of people across the world are outraged and are protesting, perhaps if you address these points it might be productive:
    A mass shooting at a music festival is always a terribly sad and troubling thing and the people responsible should obviously be arrested and punished accordingly, but please understand that it is confusing for people that there still hasn't been any proof brought forward that babies were murdered on October 7 and some Israeli officials have stated that there were no babies murdered and have admitted that they had a military helicopter in the air that was responsible for "accidentally" shooting Israeli civilians in friendly fire. This is puzzling...
    It is also puzzling for people, why Israel decided to have a music festival next to a concentration camp where there were known terrorists inside and despite it being one of the most heavily militarized zones in the world, Israel seemed to have removed their defenses during the festival long enough to allow those terrorists to bring hostages back into the concentration camp unopposed.
    Out of revenge, the concentration camp received one of the most devastating bombardments in history and thousands of innocent children were blown to bits, killing thousands and leaving hundreds of thousands badly injured and without any hope, hundreds of journalists and aid workers were murdered so they wouldn't be able to tell the story, the hospitals and ambulances were attacked so they couldn't help and when patients resorted to using tents instead, bulldozers came in and buried those people alive inside the tents (a particularly troubling and difficult video to watch).
    Despite Israel shutting off all food, water, electricity, and internet in Gaza and the place now being all dust and rubble, the people still managed to document some of this in videos and thankfully got them online for many to see but it seems the algorithm has kept these horrific scenes away from many Americans, however, the evidence can still be found with some effort and I encourage everyone to do their own investigating.
    I'm not taking sides here, I'm like most normal sane people and I am against all forms of oppression, aggression, and violence. I admire the good non-extremist Jewish community and I have Jewish friends(who are against Zionism) but as you seem to have a clear understanding of this topic, can you please help explain some things to us?
    1. Why would any moral and sane human being consider the appropriate response to a mass shooting and kidnapping to be the complete destruction of a city and the collective punishment of all of its citizens?
    2. Do you think this approach is effective and is it something that you believe would work elsewhere such as after the many mass shootings in America?
    3. Why do you think that Israel has refused to give any solid evidence of most of what they claimed?
    4. Is it at all concerning to you that extremely radical individuals who were known to their own people as being psychotic in the past, some of whom have stated that they believe most humans are animals and deserve death, have gained power in a government that has one of the most heavily armed military in the world including nukes and are actively training Ai to find targets on its own?
    5. Where are all the billions of dollars going exactly and could that money be spent more positively and productively?
    6. Do you consider it to be ok to murder journalists and aid workers and block, outside humanitarian intervention or investigation by neutral organizations and when is that justifiable?
    7. Do you think that a heavy-handed, "fight fire with fire", approach to terrorism is effective and if so why does it seem to always lead to an increase in extremism, terrorism, and instability, not a decrease?
    8. Isn't it problematic to assume that because a group including "young people" has believed a lie in the past then another totally unrelated group is also believing a lie simply because they also include "young people"? Wouldn't it be more effective to look at the administration that is spreading and promoting the lie and be cautious that more of what they say might be lies?
    9. Do you think that Israel's behavior over the last 75 years is good for the Jewish people or for humanity for that matter, is it going to benefit anyone in any way and how?
    10. Weren't Jewish and Muslim communities living relatively peacefully together in Palestine before Zionism and didn't Muslims welcome many Jews initially after WW2? And isn't the idea of Zionism in conflict with the teachings of Judaism?
    I look forward to learning your perspective on this. Thanks!

  • @williamoverton7775
    @williamoverton7775 Před měsícem +2

    I hate to play devils advocate, but Antisemitism is a phrase loosing meaning because of it's liberalism. technically not all of it is bad. if a Jewish person tries to pick your pocket and you stop them technically that's antisemitic. that's a problem because Jewish people want too much compliance sometimes. like I said some antisemitism is a good thing. that is why it is such an overused description of Jewish problems and makes an accusatory suggestion that might not be applicable. that said it perfectly describes current political attitudes

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 Před měsícem +1

    17th, 2 May 2024

  • @jamesmurphy1389
    @jamesmurphy1389 Před měsícem +1

    Given that we must choose our words wisely, what word might be chosen for the razing of an entire region resulting in the deaths of thousands of women and children, Dennis? - Charity? Your adoption of a ‘my country right or wrong’ attitude is truly mystifying to those of us who have admired your powers of objectivity. Gaza is a nightmare from which I fear Israel’s reputation will never wake.

  • @myrrhbear
    @myrrhbear Před 27 dny

    I came to this video because I thought this was going to be a helpful defence of the horrifying lies and hatred aimed at Israel. I fully expected this video to be a positive light. I fully believe the intent is positive, but a) dragging in other extremely widespread and deeply held beliefs, like being trans, means anyone who holds those beliefs will immediately be turned off by this video and no help for Israel will be achieved. b) fixating on the political polarisation argument, this force that already divides half the country in vitriol against the other, is also destructive and will obviously turn off a massive number of people, given that about half the country (including about half of our fellow Jews) votes left wing.
    To be clear, yes, there is a predominance of the anti-Israel and pro-Arab narrative on the left side of the political spectrum, BUT and crucially, that is not because the left hates Israel! It's because the left fixates on championing compassion and equality and abhors the idea of cruelty, AND the Arab PR war for decades, which has targetted specifically this attitude of empathy and justice has been successful in swaying the narrative in those circles. HOWEVER, this is not due to any less intelligence or any less good will, and it is most definitely not some mystical hatred for Jews - rather, it's honest and intelligent good will being warped and manipulated by the Arabs who want Israel destroyed. By viewing all of our left wing fellow people as our enemy we are giving the Arabs who wants us dead a DOUBLE victory. Not only can they do savage terror against us with impunity, but we, the Jewish people, will reject our own allies, seeing them as our enemy.
    In order to repair the view of those who have been turned against us, we need to BEGIN by believing in them as being the same as ourselves - as smart, and good-hearted, and seeking the very values we who treasure the Torah hold most dear: going out of one's way to be good to each other, seeking justice, doing kindness, and compassion - tzedek, mishpat, chesed, and rachamim. From the standpoint of belief in and identification with each other we can then shed light on the weaponized lies aimed at Israel, and begin to repair the damage done. Like Rebbe Nachman says - if you believe you can break, believe you can fix. Or as with R. Akiva - even if someone is stubborn and resistant like rock, the water that keeps dripping, bit by bit can wear away at the stone. And as the sages said - it's not for us to complete the task, nor is it for us to desist from it. Or as you pointed out yourself - people are strongly swayed by anything that is repeated enough. We can't control the situation - it's not in our hands, it's in G-d's - all we can do is our little part.
    The lies against Israel need to be brought into the light and repaired. We need to foster an attitude of belief in and respect for the people whose minds we aim to change.

  • @ThatOne77
    @ThatOne77 Před 24 dny

    I do wish there was a concerted effort to debunk every meme and video online that claims IDF is doing this or that.

  • @TorontoJon
    @TorontoJon Před měsícem +9

    As someone who lived in South Africa during part of the 70's and part of the 80's during Apartheid, I can attest that Israel is NOT, repeat NOT, an "apartheid state", but practically every Muslim country is given how badly non-Muslims are treated, oppressed, persecuted, and forced to pay a jizya tax for not being Muslims.

    • @larrye3602
      @larrye3602 Před měsícem +2

      I agree. I grew up in SA during 70's and 80's and have worked in Israel. Israel has no Apartheid!!!

    • @Christian___
      @Christian___ Před měsícem +1

      I don't remember SA carpet bombing Lesotho...

    • @larrye3602
      @larrye3602 Před 29 dny

      @Christian___ What does that have to do with the term Apartheid?

    • @Christian___
      @Christian___ Před 29 dny

      @@larrye3602 It means that it's unfair to call Israel an apartheid state, because South Africa didn't do half the stuff Israel has done.

  • @DerekJones
    @DerekJones Před měsícem +1

    I'm sorry but Dave Smith is not anti Israel, nor is he anti semitic. Keep the critique in perspective for people.

  • @jackcarraway4707
    @jackcarraway4707 Před měsícem +1

    The burglar justifies his crime.

  • @STTPMASFTNE
    @STTPMASFTNE Před měsícem +2

    Christ Is King

  • @charlesmcgregor1579
    @charlesmcgregor1579 Před měsícem +1

    Jew!

  • @danielhopkins296
    @danielhopkins296 Před měsícem +1

    Dennis Isareal shill

  • @fanman12
    @fanman12 Před měsícem

    describing liberalism

  • @joebauers8031
    @joebauers8031 Před měsícem +4

    You mean Israel First

    • @carolynnunes3922
      @carolynnunes3922 Před měsícem

      Bottom line? Yes, Israel indeed!
      Isaiah 62:1
      For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation(Yeshua) thereof as a lamp that burneth
      Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
      Isaiah 59:20-21 ESV
      “And a Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who turn from transgression,” declares the Lord.
      21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.
      Joel 2:1 ESV
      “Blow a trumpet in Zion; sound an alarm on my holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming; it is near”
      Joel 3:16
      The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
      Zechariah 2:10
      Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord.
      Psalm 129:5-6
      Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.
      6 Let them be as the grass upon the housetops, which withereth afore it groweth up

    • @toniwhy8415
      @toniwhy8415 Před měsícem +1

      God First, Is real is sinning against God, God will judge them, as the past “is real.