5 things that WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE in Finland!
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- In this video I talk about things that will get you in trouble in Finland. This is a rather serious topic and I wish that if you are planning to come to Finland to study or to work, please take these issues seriously.
Disclaimer: I am absolutely not claiming nor asserting that international students or workers would commit some of the infractions more than native Finnish people. Instead, the sole purpose of this video is to inform you of some of the differences in both culture and law between Finland and your home country so that you can avoid unnecessary situations whilst staying in Finland.
0:00 Things that will get you in trouble in Finland
0:23 Avoiding paying taxes
2:33 Use of drugs
3:33 Sponsorship disclaimer
4:22 Plagiarism and academic cheating
6:26 Sexual misconduct
9:54 Discrimination
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I am an American Ive never left my country before... How would someone get to Finland? Are there any programs for low income? How would a Foreigner get work? what are the dissability services like? What type of education does Finland have? Do they have any transfer programs how would someone apply for an exchange program?
has a transwoman living and working in the UK. i know we have the same discrimination laws, but employers have learnt how to discriminate, within those laws, effectively, and making them useless.
I find the lack of freedom of association disturbing.
Alcoholism is considerably worse then cannabis
@@jaynedavies2757 Should people be forced to hire others? I think your answer is "yes". Little Adolph.
I really really appreciate your intolerance for sexual misconduct. I've been living in Espoo for ~4 months and I definitely feel much safer here than in my home country. Now I can wear whatever I want without fearing some guy is gonna comment or shout something at me. I really love finnish values
Thats wonderful to hear Laura! Im very glad to hear that you've had a positive experience so far. Surely there are as****es in every country and actually just today it was reported that some 30 something guys had been yelling crude things to a 17 year old girl in Finland. All Finns. She had luckily recorded the discussion and posted it on tiktok and how the video has gone viral. That kind of behaviour is absolutely unacceptable and those men should be ashamed. Im proud to say that women dont have to be afraid in Finland so hearing things like what we had in the news makes me (and a lot of other people to be frank) just so mad...
@@RoadtoFinnish Oh I didn't hear about this... But still I do think Finns are very respectful and that 17 year old case must have been an isolated case (although it is still unacceptable)
@@RoadtoFinnish Those clowns should get a spanking for sure at least a verbal one. Our country is so nice the way everyone can feel safe, especially us ladies. How dare they put a stain on the real truth.
In her interview this girl actually mentioned that this happens to her all the time. Again, the issue here is that while these might be isolated cases, they can easily form the public image and idea of Finland. This is why i hate these people - all it takes is a handful of douchebags to change the public perception even while the clear majority of people condemn these kinds of actions.
The great thing is that she started recording this. Its good that these things come out so that we can have a public discussion about such issues.
you forgot bribery! you should not try to bribe anyone in Finland. i know that bribery is very common even in european countries but please do not attempt to bribe anyone.
Well this is definitely true. However, considering that Finland is one of the least corrupt countries in the world (source: www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/index/nzl), i didnt even think of this as a realistic issue 😏. However, point taken 👍
actually my history teacher told us...I guess a week ago that, "when people are coming from Russian boards, they warn them that 'you can do whatever in Finland, but do not try to bribe the cops'". he told that it's common (for example) in Russia, but if someone is gonna try to bribe in Finland, it's a huge disrespect.
@@iam_sherlocked8421 Oh and a huuuuuuge crime 😅. I would not try this unless you want to go into jail for quite some time
Correct! There are zero tolerance of bribery in Finland!
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just...be a good citizen and/or take responsibilities from your actions
Hitted the like button when you handled the sexual misconduct part. As a Finnish guy I thought you nailed it very well and spoke it out loud and clear without ruling out different minority groups.
Hey Joonas and thanks so much for the positive feedback. I do appreciate that 👍. Not sure if you were aware of this but im actually also a Finn (born and raised in Helsinki). Not a big thing but just wanted to let you know in case you didnt.
These are super important topics and i think the communication about them is still lacking quite a bit. I think its super important to acknowledge all of these issues and to help people from different cultures understand what kind of a culture, rules and norms we have in Finland. Just to re-emphasise this, im absolutely not saying that i would be pointing a finger at foreigners as a cause of any of these issues. Instead, im trying to acknowledge that people move to Finland from all around the world and these norms and rules are different in other countries. I feel its important for people to have an idea about the country that they are moving into 👍
Yes, open discussion, information, statistics, research and hearing from women regarding rape and sexual harassment is truly needed from all sides in a democracy.
@@chenlin4996 it doesn't happen that way in England there's an epidemic going on by a certain group
The culture in Finland sounds much healthier than in the USA, especially in the last few decades. There has been a breakdown here in the cultural expectation that people tell the truth, and someone who lies is not only tolerated but admired if their BS succeeds in getting them whatever they lie to obtain. Similarly, people dodge taxes without penalty either from the community or the tax authorities, whose enforcement efforts are focused only on the very poorest taxpayers whose unpaid tax monies are not guarded by expensive lawyers. Our wealthier class has more or less decided that since it's cheaper to pay lawyers than to pay their taxes, they need never worry about refusing to pay what the law requires as their contribution.
It's not only unpleasant to live where people expect others to lie, and where you are lied to as a matter of course by the gate-keepers to certain necessities (health care, for example), it's very bad for the long-term health of any society.
So true.....especially with our last President Trump. He made lying and cheating not only acceptable for SOME people, but actually bragged about it as being a great skill for doing business. Many (not all) people think it's OK to do whatever you want and so what if it hurts people....Our society here may never recover from the damage he did..........
The US is basically a toddler with nukes. We have a tremendous amount of growing up to do.
@@kingofcastlechaos no shit usa
Has a way of interfering, in this case with Europe and messing with its culture
Yes! i too reside in United States and what you say has been very evident, absurdly prevalent in our country for Decades. 🖤🤘☕
I want to move to Finland! I love the clarity of boundaries!
I would move to Finland were it not for the winter. Olen Suomalainen-Amerikkalainen
Oh Yes I absolutely hate when at a bar for example a guy comes in and asks whether I want to dance and I politely say no thank you, and they don’t leave but instead they linger at my table and keep begging me to dance. It immediately makes me very irritated and what ends up happening is I have to leave my spot at the table and move elsewhere to avoid them, which I hate. This has seemed to be more common with foreign guys which I would pin mostly on cultural diffences, but it’s really not cool. Some of my friends have gotten way more pressuring into some physical stuff they don’t want to do, cos the guy just won’t take their polite no seriously (I’ve gone in between that a couple times and they required very hostile wording and attitude to believe they don’t have chances and leave). But I do have to say I have met several foreign guys (maybe students, I’m not sure) who have randomly come to me on the street to ask me on a date or ask for my number and they have taken my polite rejection extremely well and left me alone immediately, so it’s definitely not all men or all foreign men.
All these 5 things are considered the merits of living in Finland for me
Thats really cool to hear 👍. One thing that i want to note though. I know that there has been a lot of debate about the legalisation of weed and the Finnish parliament is e.g. discussing this topic based on a petition a few years ago. However, im not personally stating that weed should be legal or not. I think this is an interesting question and it should be thoroughly researched before any decisions are made by law makers. Just wanted to throw that out these.
@@RoadtoFinnish I think weed is more healtier than alcohol well this has been proved but enough of comparing. I think they should legalize weed first its just weed, and they can tax it then black market gets major competion. More tourists (well its coronatime now but in future), Then most important people gets weed not chemical added bs.(well that goes just for few plugs) and they get help more easily if they are in trouble and the price would drop and people save lot of money and the danger when dealing with drugdealers who rob people. And then the health benefits painkiller benefits it should be used in some cases because the medical cannabis legal thing is bullshit almost nobody gets it when they have reason to. Its just goverment PR thing. But you were rigth this is interesting subject and theses lot to debate with the "anti legalisation" but some thing its dangerous but for real it is just non toxic plant. And the history of weed is not talked did vikings use it? they did use shrooms in religion events. But yeah i like your videos keep making them i see it taker lot of work these kinda videos but thanks!
@@mrbonanza3107 weed is healthier for body, but it'll destroy human's mind a lot faster than alcohol
@@hotdawg6924 Depends on person mostly its otherway around
@@hotdawg6924 wrong. Alcohol is much worse for one's mental health.
To quote Aamuisin by Zen Cafe
"Jokainen euro jonka maksat veroja auttaa sinua myös."
Which means every euro you pay taxes helps you too.
Well said 👍. We might not always remember this when we see our payslips but you will thank the tax collectors if you ever need to go to the hospital to get an expensive operation done.
I can think of zero reasons why a youtube algorithm would have pointed me toward your channel. I'm a retired American - never been to Europe, and may never get there because of pup . . and yet, I find it interesting. . . .
Perhaps the algorithm is giving you a hint to have a happy retired life in less expensive country if you are living in expensive city of states
Again, I can't begin to explain how on point ALL these suggestions are!
I love your videos. If you'll excuse an anecdote about the opposite of plagiarism: As a schoolboy I got carried away writing an essay on Il Risorgimento in Italian history. I came up with a poetic phrase but felt embarrassed about putting it in the essay. So I pretended it had been written by a famous historian of 19th Century Italy (GM Trevelyan) and created a citation to a passage which didn't exist, to give it some authority. My teacher, Mr Willans, spotted it, and told me it was a very good essay, but I should have the confidence to show my work as my own. I learnt that lesson well, and I'm still grateful to him for his kindness.
A good, well presented video. You’ve covered some important points very clearly and concisely.
Thank you kindly! I hope that this brings some value or new information for people. I think these are important topics that are not discussed enough in the public so i wanted to do my part.
That is very good guide/info, respect everyone’s personal space. I all situations, in grocery store, grocery store checkout etc..I mean all situations ..
This should be common sense but this also depends a but of the culture that everyone comes from.
About discrimination.
The right of being treated equally does NOT apply to the military. Which means that men have to go either in the military, civil service or if you refuse from both of those then prison with no parole, women can volunteer if they want, but they are not forced to go to any of these things.
Ach yes. This is an age old question about gender equality. However, because of the political nature of this topic, i cant comment on it even if i had a personal opinion on the topic. Regardless, i thank you for raising the issue.
Kind of an obvious point but: For any of the expats out there, this only applies to national citizens of a certain age. You can live in Finland as a foreign national with a visa or you can apply for citizenship after you turn 30, and you will not be conscripted
@@RoadtoFinnish I think you just inadvertently revealed a flip side of the culture of Finland. It appears that political sensitivity is more highly valued than free expression is.
@@ericbosken3114 Not necessarily. Personally, I see it this way when it comes to these kinds of societal / political issues: CZcamsrs speak in a professional capacity on their channel. Just because they have a personal opinion on a controversial topic does not mean they have to bring it up in a professional capacity. So, if the pure expression of personal opinion is out of the picture then the other option would be a complete recapitulation of the discussions on the topic where every argument is adequately represented. And here that seems way beyond the scope of the video. This is a video aimed at non-Fins. The topic raised is, however, an only-Fins issue. Bringing it up here is not the right place.
With each video I grow more impressed with Finland. What an impressive place!
It all sounds terribly civilized! I love it.
I love what you are doing on your channel. Really want to visit Finland.
Finland Is my idea of utopía. This 5 things aré expected things to happen anywhere not only in finland, I studied a semestre in Turku, AND felt so safe AND respected, that instead of going back, I try to change muy comunity, I try to talk about integrity in each of my clases (I am a teacher now). Loved Finland, AND loved almost every fin I met.
Very important video Oliver. Congrats!
Glad you think so!
The same thing in Canada for Canadian Educational Institutions. For example, for my Environmental Citizenship course last semester I reused an article for another Discussion Board Assignment however, I didn’t not reference specific text and left it up for students to read at their own judgment but the second time I did reference certain text within the article but put a disclaimer on how it was not specifically referenced the first time and does not fall under self-plagiarism which is taking old works and reusing them for a different class. Some colleges colleges have Plagiarism Agreements I had to sign before starting a course.
Oh this is actually a very good and important topic on its own. Self-plagiarism is definitely something that most students dont know about and im pretty sure that a big portion of students reuse their own works at least a few times during their studies. The fact that this can be interpreted as plagiarism would have never come to my mind especially if the text i was working on was just another weekly assignment. Very good point, thanks for bringing this up 👍
@@RoadtoFinnish Your welcome. I never reuse old work for that reason but my whole problem with these Plagiarism Codes of Conduct there becoming to strict! I get it with the Internet but it’s almost like you can’t afford to make a mistake even if it’s an accident that’s my problem. For example, in my Social Media class we are creating blogs. There are different ways, how to write, cite, and reference compared to Report Writing. Not everyone knows how to blog!
A very good indeed. I wholeheartedly agree with you and this is actually the very reason why i did note in the video that one should not be panicking about references because as a student, you are in the end at school to learn how to do this. Sure, the further you get in your studies, the better more careful you should be. However, this doesnt mean that you would be persecuted because of a small mistake 🤓
We have been trying to tell people no means no here for decades. I wish everyone would get the point
"No does not mean try harder." We need that on a shirt!
The whole conversation needs to be flipped to "yes means yes and anything short of yes is no"
I'm sorry about that. I understand it's extremely frustrating when foreigners want to force their habits on the native habitats and twist the law.
Love your videos!
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Hhhhhh , I have got you
Agreed 😂
Drugs can get you in trouble in Finland. That being said, cannabis use is quite common in young adults, especially in major "cities". Discussion of decriminalisation has been going on for some time, though no real progress has been made.
I think this pretty well summarises the situation. This is also the reason why i wanted to let any internationals seeing this know that even while cannabis has already been decriminalised in many other European countries (and even while this has been discussed here for quite some time), we are pretty much behind other nations and thus, you can still get into trouble here if you are used to actively smoking in your home country. Its just something thats really good to keep in mind.
No, it luckily isn't. I only ever encountered cannabis users twice in my life in Helsinki and both of them were over 30 years of age.
@@akumayoxiruma Yes, it is. One in four Finns has at some point of their life used an illicit substance. Most of them cannabis. Maybe you just dont see it.
@@akumayoxiruma Oh it is common. I smoke, my upstairs neighbour smokes, a few of my friends smoke. You just don't see it, cause we do it at home.
@@akumayoxiruma it's very common there. They're just not making it obvious. Because it's illegal. 🤣
Thankyou for this information 👍
Also, I wish dating culture in North American culture was like in certain European cultures in some ways, if the guy or girl doesn’t like you it’s just straight up “No.” No second guessing or playing hard to get. It wastes no one’s time!
Thats an interesting point of view! I had not thought about that.
This I think is rather different though between North and South of Europe. Southerns being definitely more to push on it. But in Finland it indeed is so. A NO means no - never, not at all and don't attempt again. And even with in a relationship set sexy moments must be agreed up on by both. A Finnish man will NOT cat call a woman on the street, just like he said. And using the word 'love' is in fact very serious decision to make. We don't speak it constantly repeating it to each other or replying with the same if one does - not always. But that does not mean love isn't there. In English, the use of the word love is often the same as in fact saying 'I like'. Americans especially (sry to say), but I have noted that they love everything - but that does not really mean 'love' but to 'like'. And so if a Finn tells their significant other that they do love them 'rakastaa, rakastan' in Finnish - it will generally mean something honestly deep. Now there are people everywhere who lie with words, but in Finland using the word love is taken seriously.
I think Lyriga had some really good points here. This is definitely an issue that will vary somewhat with the cultural contexts. Also, as you mentioned here, there are dick people everywhere so its always good to keep in mind that while the things mentioned in the video and in Lyrigas comment are generally true and a part of the Finnish cultural context, there are always some individuals who are the exception to the rule.
I get what you mean but there isn't one "European culture", Europe is very much diverse. Talking about dating culture, you can say the southern and especially the eastern Europe still has the macho culture, more or less.
@@lyrigageforge3259 "And even with in a relationship set sexy moments must be agreed up on by both."
Same in finnish please. I dont understand.
Tämähän oli todella hyvä. Toivottavasti moni Suomeen pyrkivä kuuntelee.
Kiitos. Toivottavasti tästä on hyötyä mahdollisimman monelle. Ei niin, että olettaisin ulkomaalaisten opiskelijoiden syyllistyvän mihinkään näistä, mutta on hyvä muistaa, että ihmiset tulevat Suomeen valtavasta määrästä eri kulttuureja.
Very useful, thank you
Glad it was helpful! Anything in specific that stood out to you?
@@RoadtoFinnish I think it reminds you to be a good guy especially in here, cause if you are an honest and decent person, these tips wouldn’t bother you, but it’s also very good to remind you there are redlines which shouldn’t be touched. And also environment is important, bad environment can make a good person bad cause he might think it’s no big deal to do bad things like plagiarism, but a good environment can make people with bad habits don’t dare to do it, so I think its meaningful
This was extremely useful!
Im very happy to hear this! I know that some of these topics are hard to cover because of their sensitive nature. However, i really, really wish that everyone coming to Finland knew about these societal rules just so that we no one has to go through a process where they might have made a mistake because they didnt quite understand how the cultural context is different.
@@RoadtoFinnish This is very insightful indeed and was elaborately elucidated without the video being horribly long. Infact information was quite terse yet detailed. This will help us to keep these various points in mind if in the future if we go to Finland....Also Oliver, I had a few tech course related queries and Aalto University related doubts...I do not know how to approach you.....They are quite a few....If there's a possibility I can drop you a mail if that works?
Thats so much for the feedback, it is highly appreciated 👍. You can always send me an email to the address that i have listed in the video description. However, i just want to note that im getting tons of messages and emails every day and its very hard for me to keep up with everything. This is actually the reason why i set up the community Discord server. It simply makes it easier for me to get back to everyone and answer everyones questions. Also, it does help that we have around 550 members in the server because people can help each other with their questions.
So my recommendation is that you should send any of the questions that are not personal into the public channels in the Discord server. This will allow me to get back to you asap. However, if you have some rather personal questions, i would ask you to dm them to me on Discord. This is again because i keep a more active eye out on the server compared to my email or instagram dm's.
Heres a link to the server: discord.gg/W2guppc
@@RoadtoFinnish Haha I realised I ended the first comment on small talk; so thought would rather elaborate later. Also thanks for this discord link ..... I'll try to consolidate my queries and drop it in the public discord link whichever isn't very personal.....The other personal related doubts I can dm you on the discord portal.....I would like to say that I was unaware of this portal. This is very helpful. Thanks once again🙏
I've recently started watching this channel. I find the content fascinating.
I find this video especially interesting. Americans are so uncomfortable about sex that even a frank discussion about what is and isn't appropriate might make some uncomfortable. Further, the Finnish definition of discrimination is completely admirable in my eyes. (I really don't like the term "protected classes" that one hears in the US. As if treating people with respect were in some way unusual.) I wish definitions were that broad and enlightened everywhere.
"No" means NO, no catcalling, respect people's personal space... sounds like being a decent person.
As italian I would like to have, in my country, the same strictness against the undecleared work or "black work" as we call it here.
You can't really blame them sometimes
Excellent info.
Makes me wish I could speak Finnish... If I could, and if I were younger, I'd definitely look into moving to Finland.
Hi sir.i just subcribed to your channel i really love finland thank you for doing this a lot of video about your country..someday i want to go in finland.
I love your videos is very educational..
Coming Finland for study 😊
*Regarding Harassment against racial minorities: Several years ago, I was working in the city of Pori, and my wife (who is Japanese) was harassed on a daily basis by the locals--whether they were drunk or not. It got so bad that she had a nervous breakdown and refused to leave the house.*
Well, Finland was the most racist country among the European countries that were included in a recent study.
@@daturave I was reading world review and it says that Finland is 6th least racist place. I believe the study was done in 2021
@@HopeGardner3amed Check a proper study (google the name) in "Being Black in the EU" by European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights from 2018. Tells quite a different story.
@@daturave That would surprise me as the original ethnic origin of Finns is quite sketchy so however Finnish they are, many of them aren't exactly Nordic types.
Why and how would someone harass someone else on a daily basis...a bit more to this story I suspect.
Ah the dirty word: taxes. As an American, I barely get anything in return for paying them. Most of the time it just goes to the richer people. It would be nice to live somewhere where my taxes actually benefited me in some way.
I can understand some of what you say. But if your house is on fire, or you call the cops….taxes support them. Did you go to a public school? Taxes paid for that. We pay lower amount of our pay to taxes than most other countries.
Really!? How about roads, water and sewer infrastructure, public schools, libraries, police and fire protection, court system, jails and prisons, parks (local, state and national), recreation facilities, subsidized senior housing, and medicare, medicaid, national defense, museums, colleges and universities, public health agencies, consumer protection and safety agencies, and many, many more. We all pay and we all benefit.
@@j.103 Really? Have you added up all the separate taxes most Americans pay, such as Social (in)Security, Unemployment Compensation, Workman's (injury) Compensation, State taxes in most, and often also local taxes. For most middle income Americans this all adds up to nearly half our income, for which we get severly limited protection from personal disasters. Quite different from Nordic countries.
@@cjtheisen5124 YES, which makes it hilarious how many people in the US have been propagandized to feel that socliaism is 100% evil. Can it be dismissed that the military (putatively fighting for democracr and capitalism) has most of the features of a fascist orgnaztion with a communist economy?
My 23 & me says I am 50% Fin. I enjoy your channel very much. Cheers from Spokane, WA USA
6:00. Oh my. I actually teach MLA and APA-style academic citation techniques to students who take my advanced World Literature courses. I can't tell you how many people I have to reprimand because of this issue of academic integrity. I never had the issue in Suomi, as I would always cite my work, and was already teaching University myself, back in the U.S.
As a woman, I can't tell you how nice the 6 feet of social distancing was. I like the Finnish mindset.
Thank you for the video. The standards you discussed are socially unacceptable in many countries, at least for the majority. I live in San Francisco and sexual harassment, plagiarism, not paying your taxes & oppression/ discrimination is not tolerated amongst people I know. The use of cannabis may be another story…..
I know someone living in San Francisco who gets cat called on a regular basis and the police there are just as racist as anywhere else. In the US many employers get away with discrimination because we don't have all the agencies he mentioned.
What do you think about Sat based admissions being continued the next year like most universities have does SAT admissions??
Ive never had to do the SAT's myself because applying to a Finnish taught programme is completely different. Having said this, ive heard that the SAT's are a good way of measuring once competencies in certain areas and the good thing is that there are a lot of material and services that you can use to prepare for the exams.
Do note that not all universities in Finland use the SAT's as an entrance exam. First of all, the SAT's are mostly used for Bachelor's admissions and even so, there are some schools that do not use this. Instead, they might have other ways of testing and grading the applicants.
Cant say if this is a good system or not - again because of a lack in personal experience.
Sounds like a nice country to be part of....thanks for the video..
I've faced with completely different experience about drugs usage issue.
I've lived in Helsinki for this spring semester with other foreign students.
My neighbors were smoking weed without any concerns about illegality of their actions.
During one of the party of them I called the police, but policemen just made them a notice.
My Finnish familiar told you need to strive enough to get into trouble if you smoking marijuana only. However, consuming heavy drugs is still criminal offensive.
Hey Anton and thanks so much for sharing your experience. Even with what i said in the video, i do understand what you mean and ive also heard similar stories. The thing is, the police does have a lot on their plate and looking for people to try and stop them from smoking would be a huge strain on their resources. I see this almost as the same as the police stopping people for jaywalking. Its not quite the same because jaywalking is actually not a crime in Finland but im this gets the point across. Smoking might be illegal under the law but its not as heavily enforced as many other laws - my guess is because in no harm comes to other people. However, getting caught of growing weed is a totally different case. Im pretty sure you wont get of with just a warning.
Just as a disclaimer here, im not encouraging anyone to smoke weed nor am i trying to state my opinion on the matter. Rather, i just wanted to acknowledge that Anton had a good point here and that your personal experiences are most likely not that off from the norm.
The police has given up on cannabis use. It doesn't help Finland has the least police officers per capita in Europe, and it's by a wide margin. They simply don't have the resources to do anything about it, and the government isn't interested in fixing the situation. I have experienced this personally as well. I live in an apartment building with a heavy cannabis user (or users), with the stairwell air regularly contaminated by the fumes. I once asked about it from a police patrol. While they obviously couldn't tell straight to my face to forget about it, they did try to make sure I wouldn't try call the police or do anything of that sort (forget about asking for the building's address). They weren't corrupt cops (hard to find those in Finland), just regular cops, but they know it's all useless as the war has been lost long ago.
As Oliver and Herra Käärme said the Finnish police do not pay much attention to the use of weed. While they might only give you a notice nor does it rarely get you in trouble. Quite often however when someone does get caught for the use of any kind of drugs they do receive an H-marking in the police registry. That information is not publicly available however it might stop you from getting a job. That is because it does show in your safety report if your employer does require it.
drugs are illegal in most countries, but that doesn't mean ppl will stop doing them, especially students.
About discrimination in Finland, such a shame that most job applicants are largely ignored by employers if they don't have Finnish-sounding names (as you mentioned in one of your other videos). This one sounds like more of a utopian goal than something put into practice...
As to 'free health care' and 'free childcare' or other 'freebies': i have tried to explaine these concepts to younger ppl that NOTHING is free. Some how, some way someone pays for it. You always end up paying one way or another in higher taxes, higher prices, lower quality, lower quantity, lower freedom, lower space, lower availability, lower variety...any I'm sure there are more. Its up too the populous of the legally defined area to decide how they want to pay.
LOL you need to educate yourself about European countries and how much less they spend on housing, healthcare and childcare because of what their taxes pay for.
@@dhsredhead how much less the government of the country pays or how much less the people of the country pay for housing, health care and child care?
Do you have policy around misconduct by an academic? Like say bullying a student? If not, why not?
As a Master's student in Australia I have been subject to bullying from a research supervisor. At one stage the academic was persisting in undertaking quantitative tests that should not have been conducted on the numerical data used. This supervisor also told me baldly that if I did not remove qualitative discussion they would not pass my thesis.
Regards my undergrad studies - I was let down by the school when it came to effective supervision on a field placement. One academic held me accountable for this, not the field supervisor. I had to be told by the Student Association I had to make a choice around getting justice (which consisted of the school taking ownership of its contribution) or obtaining my degree & employment after.
Useful video, thank you. However, there was no mention of drinking and driving, seriously taken in northern European countries.
Great video but I am surprised you did not mention drunk driving. When I left Finland in 1968 getting caught while driving under the influence earned you a tour to build Seutula airport. They even used to have "ratsia" to stop people without a probable cause.
They still do that. However "without a probable cause" in this context sounds like they'd do some extensive search of your property. All they do is make everyone blow into an alcometer, typically takes 10-15 seconds. Technically they're also allowed to check your driver's license and vehicle documentation, but I've never been asked to show mine. Anything else requires probable cause.
@@fl4shi238 Thanks for the reply. So it is still like they way it used to be in the sixties. I remember my father getting stopped at a check point in Finland where they were looking for drunk drivers. It was not intrusive and I did not mean to imply that it was with the "no probable cause" comment. Road blocks are legal here in the USA also but they are extremely rare.
That all seems... reasonable enough -- as it should, admittedly.
Though then again, I also found most japanese customs/rules to be reasonable enough, so maybe I'm not the kind of person this video is meant to be addressed towards xP
Oh yes, these are definitely reasonable things but sometimes people tend to forget some of the more basic societal rules especially when drinking. So just wanted to give a reminder to everyone so that we can avoid unnecessary issues 👍. Having said this, the issue with drugs and especially weed is something that people get into issues with because some have gotten used to being able to smoke weed in their home countries. Note, this is not a discussion over whether weed should be legal. Rather its just to remind everyone of the current laws.
What if you come from a country where your doctor has prescribed you cannabis for medical use? Can you bring it into Finland if you have proper documentation for it?
#6 opening a window while in a sauna
Oh boy, people have been burned at the stake for lesser violations 😅
I don't think it's no-no. I regularly open a window in sauna and haven't ever thought it would be a crime. :) And I'm Finnish.
Nothing wrong with Finnish standards. Better to have a definite line in the sand where you cannot cross.
Very much agreed 👍
Any traffic violation in Finland is same as going to the hospital without insurance in US. Also the the longest jail time or highest fine you'll get by stealing from the government, whether it's taxfraud or smuggling snus/alcohol/tobacco into the country.
Well i would not put it like this but the principle argument that i guess you have is that a progressive traffic ticket system is rather heavy for those making more per month. Cant argue with that but i dont really have an opinion on the topic in general. The second topic that you mentioned is something that i have not familiarised myself with so i also wont comment on it.
You're so full of shit. At worst the basic fine is about 200e, unless it's a case where you are fined with an amount of "day fines". With 10 day fines and 5k monthly net income, you're going to pay about 800e, which you fucking should afford with that income, and with 2k/month you'll be paying about 300e.
Indeed the fine system is extremely discriminating as it is based on revenues, which includes compensations for expatriates for instance. This would be considered straight discrimination in most European countries.
Also their are radars everywhere and speed limits are very low. A few people love to snitch also, so beware of you drive in Finland!
@@fuxpremier revenue based fines are common in some other European countries
@@fuxpremier how is fine based on income discriminating? 100e for a poor beggar is a big money, 100e for a millionaire is not a fine but a small license fee.
Only times I've heard of "snitching" have been with cases where someone is clearly danger for other road users.
Kindly add that when invoices are issued they must be paid. I was to pay what I'd call a caution fee for electricity because they needed my SSN and I had no idea it was the same as a Finnish ID. I got back to the company before the due date on the invoice and gave my ID/SSN to them after discovering it was the same number, stating that I was providing the number so I do not have to pay the caution fee. They acknowledged receipt but a few weeks later, my electricity was disconnected and I was slammed with a fee. After much back and forth, I was informed that once an invoice is issued, it must be paid even in a case like mine where I had given the necessary information. Except this is not common practice, I think foreigners need to know this. It was a rude shock for me given that I had reached out to clarify from the company, but they expected me to know automatically and did not say anything.
This is a great addition to the tips! Thanks so much for the valuable point 👍
what about working online like upwork? do i need to pay taxes?
Hey Maggie and thanks for the great question. All work based income while residing in Finland, no matter the source, is taxable income. The way and how much each source is taxed is a more complicated matter and you would need to contact the Finnish tax administration about this. Regardless, work done through platforms like Upwork, Fiver or any other freelance platform is considered taxable income.
For more details, please refer to the Finnish tax admin and if needed, please contact their customer service. They have a wonderful customer service team and they are most likely more than happy to help you figure out the details: www.vero.fi/en/About-us/contact-us/call-us/
By principle, you pay taxes in the country you live. If you live in Finland, then you pay taxes to Finland. Ask Vero for more details.
@@AleksiHimself Indeed. This was actually better summarised than my answer 🤓
I am a Finn living in France. I am partially tax-responsible in Finland for the property I have there and France taxes me for the income I have from Finland. That said, I am not one of those wealthy people. My income is tiny and I live here because my husband is French. I don't even have any French income being disabled. But because I live in France my main taxation is here. And I find that some folks here find it bit odd how seriously I take the both being almost overly precise about it. But I just don't want to make any mistakes cause I grew up knowing it is very serious a matter.
lmao i would have to disagree on the discrimination part... Extremely many finns are highly racist and open about it, like seriously it sometimes feels like we are back in the old days with how discriminatory some of us finnish people are.
Edit: There was a study done that showed that Finland is the most racist country in EU lmao
Yeah unfortunately many ppl are racists, and the racist political party gaining popularity and media space does not help
@Helzagore nope definitely not. Then again i don't even know what well founded reservation towards foreign people means. What i do know is that way too many finns are radically racist and discriminatory towards any non northern european. i don't know where you get the idea that everyone is treated the same here, that's definitely not true.
Extremely true. Some people from my Finnish customer did not hesitate to let me know what they think of Muslims for instance. Quite embarrassing in a work environment even though I'm not concerned at all.
@Helzagore Yes, of course, generalizing about Finns being xenophobic would just be xenophobic! I'm just saying, this image of tolerance is mostly a story Finns like to believe about themselves. Finnish society is actually very closed and xenophobia is not more socially severely condemned than anywhere else.
While I agree that there are openly racist people in Finland, to a point it is painfully embarassing, I can't agree with the message of this comment. As an expat Finn, I've heard shit at work that would not fly in Finland. And I am pretty sure that in EU states east from here, even more is tolerated.
The video gives a right guideline in this topic: Even if there are racist idiots in Finland, you may get into a trouble by being one yourself.
When you're Finnish and even you didn't know some of these: 👁️👄👁️
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ummmm how
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ummmm why
are you watching this as a Finn?
Im absolutely baffled over the fact how many Finnish people come and watch videos that are specifically made to inform foreigners (in this case international students and expats) and then complain how these things are self-evident. Well of course these things are self-evident if you were born or have lived in Finland your whole life! What did you expect - a list of extremely rare tax laws that only people with phd's in tax fraud know about?
Please step out of your small Nordic bubble and realise that if you come from a completely different cultural background, and from the other side of the world, many of these things might not be that self-evident anymore. In fact, you dont even have to go that far in terms of culture for some of these things to be quite different. For example, Canada has just two years ago legalised the recreational use of cannabis across the country. If something like that is now day-to-day normal stuff for Canadians, it is not far-fetched to say that people from a country that similar to Finland might get into trouble abroad because of something that they are used to being normalised.
@@RoadtoFinnish You answering to me? I answered this to a Finn who doesn't know basic stuff about Finland. It baffled me that someone who lives here doesn't know these things.
Wasn't about your video. It is very informative to those who don't live here.
Oh damn, apple stroodle. Im sorry. That was my bad. I should not have drawn any conclusions from your comment without asking. I get a lot of fellow Finns sharing comments like this all the time and im pretty fed up with it (as you might have noticed) so i automatically thought your comment was targeted for me. This was my mistake and I do apologise.
Can you talk a little about just spending time in Finland and learning the language?
The more of your videos I watch, the more I feel as if I was born in the wrong country and culture. Yours makes far more sense in every.
how about if you have part time? does the salary for this will be tax also? or it is illegal to d part time jobs? thanks
Part time jobs will be taxed just like full time jobs. All your income is counted together by the tax office and if your income is very low, you pay tax with smaller percentage. The higher your income is the bigger the tax percentage is. For example if your income per year is under 15 000€, you pay about 9% income tax and if you earn 40 000€/year you pay about 27% tax.
3:29 pretty sure we also have diffrent age restriction for stronger alchohol? Yes. I looked it online. You need to be 20 years old to buy alchohol stronger than 22%
Oh darn, itotally forgot to mention this in the video. You are 100% correct 👍.
Does one get any benefit from paying taxes if one decides to study alongside working (for experienced professionals)? Eg: Does one get some benefits in the tuition fees if one has been employed by a Finnish company and paying taxes as expected?
"No means no" should be universally understood...even in Western countries it's still an issue.
thank you
You're welcome
What is the total tax paid per say, 10k euros with income, vat, sales, sin, etc?
But tax officers be like: "EPIC TAX PARTY Original mix | Windows95Man feat. Epic Tax Guy"
That is hilarious 😅. If other people dont know what this means, this will explain everything: czcams.com/video/mMu32owW3rM/video.html
* cries in Sanna Marin's breakfast *
Its kind of iffy if weed is illegal. Police can give or not give a fine if you carry less than 10g. Most likely they dont bother.
Finnish Laws sounds very similar to Australian Laws, including The Drinking Age. I'll never forget the first time I ordered A Drink a few days after turning 18. My Older Sister and Her Family visited so We went out for Lunch. I ordered A Drink, My Brother-in-law said "Aren't You Under-age?" I explained that I wasn't, they checked my Identification and everything was fine. Back when My Brother and His Wife were Engaged, they came for a visit from England. She complained that Australian Men were too obvious. She'd have been shocked by American Men. I once watched a video on CZcams about an Australian Woman who moved to America. She moved to be with Her Boyfriend. The first time She went Shopping, they warned Her About Speaking To Strange Men. Unfortunately being a typical Friendly, Polite Australian, She talked to one. In Australia generally We'll Talk To Anyone. He said "Give Me Your Phone Number!" She politely said "No, I Have A Boyfriend!" He followed Her and Her Boyfriend's Sister to the Parking Lot. He used His Car to stop them from leaving and demanded "GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER!" In Australia a Man will Check Out a Woman. She will then Check Him Out or the other way around. If She's Interested She'll go and talk with Him. If She doesn't He'll understand and take "No!" for an answer. If We see or hear Someone Being Offensive to another person, We'll Speak Up. I remember once An Openly Racist Politician was running for office. A News Crew turned up at His House for an Interview. It was on National Television, needless to say He Lost The Election.
why do you randomly capitalize the first letter of some words lol
I'm sure it must seem confusing to you. But many people whose first language is English capitalise the first letter of a word for emphasis. It's not really random. I'm sorry if I confused you.
@@larissahorne9991 seems random considering some sentences have all of them capitalized while some don't, kind of loses the emphasis effect when the large majority is capitalized. And it seems like a lot of effort :D
Taxes are high for a reason but sometimes it feels like goverment does not do what they have promised to do with tax money (road maintenance) for example
Yeah sometimes there are inefficiencies in the system but having seen how taxes are spent in some other countries, i would still argue that we Finns get quite a bit for our money 👍
The thing is that if you wiggle out of the system and deliberately don't pay, then 0 % of your non-payment is going to go towards the goals you'd want.
Are you required to pay taxes if you get extra income from business like CRYPTO CURRENCIES?Thanks
Yes, income from crypto currencies is subject to tax just like income from any kinds of investments. You can read about the taxation of crypto currencies from the website of the Finnish tax authority: www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48411/taxation-of-virtual-currencies/
@@RoadtoFinnish thanks read the link later. Bit scared how many percentage they would get. New subscriber here
Finland has most insane high taxes but here comes but social benefits etc are better than most countries so in my eyes its understandable
Joo. Ehkä helsingissä nuo kaikki taitaa pitää paikkaansa ja pitäs koko suomessa mutta missä mie asun niin siellä ei ihan nää lait toimi tai ei niistä immeiset välitä.
Ikävä kuulla. Eroja löytyy tietysti aina alueittain.
" 'No' does not mean 'try harder' "
Srsly - I am printing this on a t-shirt!!!! :D :D
Question : If a certain religion states that woman are inferior to men and ought to be treated as such, but Finnish law says everybody is to be treated equaly regardless of gender AND everybody has the right to exercise their religion... How do the Finnish cope with this contradictory laws ? ? Would be interesting to know, since it is an existing problem.
This is an interesting question and i have to note that im not a lawyer nor a legal scholar and this topic is way too complicated and nuanced for me to talk too deeply about.
Having said this, religious laws have no bearing in the Finnish court system especially if they contradict the general Finnish law and especially the Finnish constitution. Im not even sure if the term "law" is the right one to use here. I think religious "rules" or "customs" would be a better way to put this as im pretty sure that these "laws" have no legal status in Finland (again, im not a legal scholar). Equality is an important part of the Finnish constitution and while people do have the freedom to practice their own religion in Finland, and while there are some exemptions granted to religious groups when it comes to the equality between sexes (as it comes to religious practices), any religious "laws" that interfere with personal rights and the right to self-govern should have no validity whatsoever.
In short, everyone can live their lives as they personally wish and people can practice their religion freely - as long as this practice does not involve tampering with another persons personal freedom. So just as an example, a man cannot dictate or rule over their wifes e.g. in terms of when, how and with whom they go outside. Sure, people can always mutually agree on common customs or rules (like that a man should not see other women) between each other, as long as these agreements are mutual and do not break any laws. However, one person cannot forcibly limit another's freedom.
So yeah, my simplistic interpretation is that there are no contradictions here because a religious customs cannot be considered laws. However, there are a lot of grey areas here that are yet to be contested in the highest courts. So lets let the constitutional scholars define the exact boundaries here.
All good videos and I enjoy then. I'd suggest fewer hand movements ... and, this coming from an Italian!
Lol
Do International students need to pay tax of their earning from part time jobs?
Hey Faridul and thanks for the question. Yes, international students do need to pay taxes on all work that they do. Does not matter whether its a part-time or full-time job or even a paid internship. Finland has a progressive taxation system meaning that the more you earn, the more you pay in taxes. So students working part-time do not pay much - but you still have to pay the taxes.
@@RoadtoFinnish I had almost made my dicision to study in Finland. But after watching your videos and considering the facts of extremely high tax rate and condition of job market, I need to think twice. Umm..I want to hear from you.Regarding these facts, will you still suggest me coming Finland for my bachelor study? [ I'll complete at least speaking and listening part of finnish language from my country before moving to Finland. Because I've realised knowing the language will solve the half of my problems in Finland]
It must be wonderful to live in a civilized country! I am from South Africa.
Frowned on morally as well. And ethically too.
And 6th never say you don't like salmiakki or sauna! 🤫🤭🤐😬
A good one 😅
The other thing with a visa is that you don't have the same rights as a citizen. You can have your visa cancelled and be deported for criminal activities. I'm a Finn living in Australia and we see this from time to time. If you have a drug conviction or fraud conviction then some countries will not give you visa to even visit as a tourist - so take care when you are a student as this can come back and bit you on the bum later on in life!
Who determines what is "your fair share"?
it's nice that the country has a basic bar of what's acceptable or not, here in the USA we kinda sorta have "standards"..enough that if it comes to light, some will frown and shake their fingers, but if the person is powerful nothing will be done, normalizing it a bit more as time goes on. :-( (everything is just an "opinion" it seems. freedom freedom freedom...sigh)
I came here from watching vids about the Winter War. Honestly worth it.
How good are job prospects for English language teachers in Finland?
For an English language teacher who cannot use Google?
@@pigeonlove Why would you think so?
I would love to move to Finland! I would donate my house in California for a tiny apartment in Finland…any takers???
if someone moves to Finland and tries to cheat on taxes it's easy to do that by recording your income on a offshore financial instituting.
Terve, voitko teteko yksy kysymys on sähköposti? Kiitos.
Hei. En valitettavasti ehdi vastata ihmisille sähköpostilla. Vastaan toki mielelläni kysymyksiin täällä kommenteissa.
I would have thought plagiarism illegal everywhere and at the very least dishonest and therefore despicable.
Yes most of what he spoke of exists in most countries. I think he highlighted plagiarism because a lot of his videos are pitched to people who may go on to be international students in Finland
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Wow …. Everything you listed on this video makes me want to leave the USA (right now I think we All want to leave, sad but true) . Just the respect for each person regarding sexual advances etc is AMAZING and gives me hope for Humanity. Things are slowly changing here, but it seems the Finnish have so many of our issues already handled. This channel has been very eye opening. Than you for posting.
All these things make me want to move to Finland. Sounds safer.
how can i find jobs in Finland. i want to settle there
I have multiple videos on my channel on the topic so i would recommend starting there 👍
I agree 100% my Finnish friend
I never got in trouble ever in finland cuz im a veteran finn in fine manners.
Do any of these things count in your "no go zones"?
Interesting question 🤔 personally, I haven't even put that much thought on it as I intuitively think we don't even have those kind of areas. Maybe somewhere in a bad part of Helsinki, or let's be real: anywhere in Lahti but even that would be an extreme stretch for the term no-go zone. Deuchebags can be found anywhere and Finland isn't an exceptions but I don't think that takes away the overall sentiment of our basic values, even in places where the bottom of the barrel population is more densely concentrated, like aforementioned Lahti for example. You may have surmised I don't hold the past home city of mine too dear to my heart 😄
how about the freedom to choose to get vaccinated or not?
Yes you can choose
@@onion9322 without loosing your job, not being able to leave the country, or dine in restaurants, go to clubs, concerts and so on?
Yep thta rule is gone now
Five ways to say "Do not be an asshole". Sad that it has to be written in law, but always good to have it written down, just to be sure.