What If Guts Never Left Griffith And The Band Of The Hawk?
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What If Guts Never Left Griffith And The Band Of The Hawk?
It's a question I think is worth asking. There's a scene the Golden Age Arc that is the ultimate turning point for the franchise, Berserk. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Somewhere in an alternate reality the Godhand is just sitting around waiting for Griffith who is still chilling with Guts enjoying his kingdom
Hey man I'm so glad you checked out my video!
Yeah, sometimes I wish there was a happy ending to Berserk. In reality, the story's core theme of struggling is a happening with chapter releases. It's next level dramatic irony.
void: "look he's gonna sacrifice them watch.... any second now"
I don’t know, I don’t think much will change if Guts didn’t leave because for Griffith to his own castle he has to marry Charlotte and the king would start to despise Griffith and torturing him again but I don’t how Guts would play into that if he didn’t leave maybe Guts would’ve stopped the king before he captures Griffith but who knows.
Or kill Griffith and find a way to destroy the red orb.
Void: This is not part of the script.
Imagine Guts ever being happy for more than a year
You mean the golden age arc?
u mean 3 years with The Hawk?
Guts needs therapy
It almost seem like it's "not him" to enjoy anything like that. Poor guts......
I never really considered the tragedy of Griffith's fall, the characters all acted without evil intentions until Griffith was broken. The eclipse is all the more cruel for the fact that it theoretically didn't need to happen. The law of causality really twisted some relatively decent people into monsters. It's perfect considering the overarching story is about Guts' struggle against fate.
Can somebody explain why the eclipse doesn't have to occur ?
12:31 the fact that a casual exchange of words in that matter could've prevented everything is hilarious. Has me laughing. 😂
i don’t think that it would,Guts is a man with a real will to live,and he was tired of being an instrument in grifith’s hands,he wanted to go his own path,and imagine Griffith,the man who had control and power over every single member in his crew,until Guts,he made Casca fell in love with him,he proved that he is stronger mentally,physically,and now he want’s to leave,to truly understand why this wouldn’t work you need to understand the psychology of Griffith and Guts
12:33 I really smiled here. This sounds so delightfully reasonable, like asking your boss for a leave of absence. But if there was no conflict and no drama, we wouldn't read Berserk.
Not only griffith lost the duel but if you read the mnga you ll see that guts did to him what he consider himself impossible to do against guts to stop the sword on his shoulder without hurting him he was planning to injure him but not hurting him was considered impossible he only feared he might killed him if he hit his head instead. Guts basicly proven himself his way superior in combat much more than Griffith was imagining
Exactly!
"And how it would likely never conclude"
Jesus fucking Christ, that's haunting considering how Miura died almost a year after this video was posted. Either way, amazing video man. I decided to check out more of your content after coming across a Samurai Jack video that popped up when I was binging clips.
Berserk seriously depressed me, the concept that one's fate is predetermined is truly terrifying. Great video bro.
Dude, if Griffith just said "why are you doing this?" It'd probably happen differently.
Griffith was straight up lying to Charlotte when he was giving his speech.
Not exactly lying to her. More like lying to himself. It was his philosophy that he wright for himself, like a lot of young people, do when they think that they "crack a life code", he wanted that to be true because that let him distance himself from his people, to not gen emotionally hurt if he loses them, to not get attached. But in I case of Guts, he got attached anyway, proving his talk wrong, but he was not ready to acknowledge it yet.
I love the alternative reality you’re telling but what about Ganishka? I feel like Griffith would fall to the emperor eventually which would bring about the eclipse either way. It’s all about Causality lol
We all wished for that happy ending but we know it was never to come doesn't mean we still don't want it.
ft1992 Miura the creator of berserk said that berserk won't end in a pessemestic way.
@@TheAngelmisa welp
@@bekrox64 :(
@@ruileite4579 mate :/
@@TheAngelmisa which means berserk would had good ending?
If Guts were to mention taking a year off with a Blacksmith at the base of one of the mountains, then I can see Rickert hearing about this, and getting with Erica early there. If Guts loses an arm during a duel or one of the competitions, or just plain recklessness, then I can see him getting that kickass setup he gets in the Black Swordsman Arc anyways. Griffith: KING BRO LEVEL. Guts: GETS HIS FRIENDS AND HIS MECHANICAL ARSENAL. Casca: GIVING GUTS A BABY. Battle Scars... Mostly Mended.
*But there's still Kushan to deal with...*
Beautiful video, man, such an incredible tragedy for everyone involved
Griffith's final moments after the rescue/before the Eclipse are so haunting to me
The inability of social communication and lack of understanding really sucks. I've always wished that Guts and Griffith at least talk things out together.
I think Kushan may cause Griffith to use the red behelit in order to beat him because he can't stand losing his kingdom. Guts and everyone will be marked and sacrifice for him to have a fair fight against that apostle
Then the story would be a wholesome but serious underdog story.
It's why even though I like all of Beserk, my favorite part of beserk was the golden age arc back when Guts had a family and had Griffith as his best friend.
guts never left, the bands become a kingdom and griffith reaches his dream, a big event came and creates conflicts, guts died and griffith became desperate, enemy saw it and use it as an advantage, the band loses, and griffith suffers...
"This entire channel is a mystic relic...
I shall make great strides in my research."
-Abbot Hugo. Maybe...
The idea that griffith saw guts as a friend already is something I never thought of, and honestly makes it even more tragic
That damn staircase scene 😭 if only Guts hadn't of gotten emotionally damaged by that. The man can take a beating from 100 warriors, but his heart needed only one man to take it down
Awesome video! You brought up some amazing points, and your prediction of what that conversation between Guts and Griffith would have been like felt so spot on to be honest. On one hand, I think to myself “if only that had gone that way”, but on the other hand, I’m like “If it had, we wouldn’t have the epicness that is the rest of the manga, and the Black Swordsman arc would be meaningless as well”. This deserves more views if you ask me.
We are beyond lucky that Berserk is still continuing. R.I.P. Miura.
The first anime series that made me really sad huhuhu thank you and good job honey!!
Great video as always Noble.
Give this man more views and subs!
@12:32 I was thinking the same thing lol he could’ve asked Griffith for a vacay, wait a few months, and then disappear to avoid conflict with Griffith. Then everyone lives happily ever after.
You earned my sub nice video btw.
Thanks for the sub!
I wish they just talked 😭
Such a good story-teller you are
Watching much later after chapter 371 was released. We still moving but videos like this still interest me. Thanks for the content.
please keep putting out vids i love ur voice and vids
I plan to, and thank you so much for the compliment
It's like 364 chapters it's not that long 0:27🙁💀
I'm a fan of detective Conan, one piece, and Hajime No ippo. So my frame of reference for long is +1000 chapters lol.
BUT BUT BUT I WANT THE OTHER REALITY
What if Griffith never had a bejelit?
Shot dead in a river by an assassin after rearing lady Charlotte's horse.
@@NobleAbsinthe who?
Got destroyed with guts by Zodd in their first encounter
Underrated videos
Nice video great work
Thank you that means alot
@@NobleAbsinthe btw are you planning on doing another dbz video in the future?
@@nunotorres6314 depends on the topic, I'm always up for one.
@@NobleAbsinthe nice
Interesting to think about.
I'm surprised you're only at five k
please share the video and thank you :)
You're telling me
@@NobleAbsinthe agreed
I just started watching it a couple weeks ago and I'm learning that it will never finish and the author passed away, that is just heartbreaking
The Manga is much better and is still being produced by his assistants and best friend who miura told the outline of the ending to before he passed. It's worth it to see this journey to the end
Intresting theory. Anyways I was wondering ever heard of Robb Banks? He's a rapper. he is a fan of berserk and he is also a Griffith fan. Robb refers himself as femto...He made a rap song called Griffith did nothing wrong. I wonder if Robb hates Guts. I like Guts and I sometimes compare myself to Guts... I hope Robb Banks is a sane berserk fan.
What if guts switched roles with griffith?
He doesn't even have an overarching goal
@@firaxolegirein9816 Guts has no ambition at all.
Guys couldn’t leave with griffiths blessing, he had to leave against his wishes. To protect his decision even against Griffith.
Man.. griffith never considered guts as an equal , never , he only felt comfortable because he finally being superior to someone that actually really strong , thats why he want him in the first place , thats why he dont want him to leave , thats why he slept with the princess after guts left , cmon people 🤦♂️
do you still remember what Casca said to Guts in the cave? there's a reason why she said all of it, we all know that Casca loved Griff, and she can totally see how much Griff valued Guts, not only as soldier but more than that.
There's also many more evidences that can proved that Griff cared for Guts as a person, not only as a soldier or tool. Guts even made Griff forgets his dream.
How can you say that when the evidence shown clearly makes a case that Guts was more important to Griffith for a time than his dream? I think you're getting confused by a single line of dialogue that within context was nothing but Griffith manipulating Charlotte.
@@JOJOrequiemyearsago do you also know for someone that has been always supressing his feeling can suddenly feel something deep and strong to something that make the person really comfortable , didnt he rape casca in front of him to make it clear they werent equal
Nice ❤️❣️
,,Only 300 chapters,, what only nah that's is not only
please share the playlist
What if guts never returned and stayed fighting in the arena?
If guts knew what he does now I’m pretty sure he would cut down Griffith before he even recruits him
If he knows what he knows now if he went back in time, Guts would kill him but it would make Casca hate him.
Thankfully, there are going to finish the series. The last arc of Berserk will be released in November 2022. The author’s best is concluding the series for him.
I was thinking if guts didnt return and just focus on his own would the eclipse still happen?
didnt zodd says the eclipse is inevitable?
Sorta, only if Griffith ever fell into despair.
In an alternate universe guts and griffith had a long talk and guts left on good terms returning with the dragon slayer now prepared to make griffith king who did not fuck the princess
What was the song at the beginning
if gut didnt left, i would be like chap 0
Or ģuts just realises griffith sees him as an equal
😭😭😭😭
I feel like the "Tell Me Why" opening means Griffith trying to understand Gut's decision. Like imagine that song playing while Griffith was having sex with the Princess.
I mean I like how you entered the depth of the characters you did a great job, but regardless sooner or later if guts leaves or not Griffiths fate is held by the God hand so they'll just manipulate fate to break him into femto ofcourse still with Griffiths free will intact
I think Griffith would become a member of the godhand even if Guts never left, or even if Guts never joined
The Idea Of Evil made all of the little things happen so Griffith would become Femto, It could do it again
But free will is still existing in this world. The Count refuse to secrefice his daughter after all.
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Guts and griffith would of married and lived happily ever after with their pet casca
Griffith doesn’t try to rape casca. He try’s to comfort her like he used to be able to by putting his hand on her shoulder. But falls over.
its only 360 chapters no biggie
Nice vid, very thorough with the retelling of the events that took place and I completely agree on the communication part between Guts and Griffith. Gut's should've just told Griffith he heard him talking to the princess about his idea of a 'friend'.
However, maybe this is just my POV, but I'm pretty certain Griffith wasn't trying to r*** Casca in the carriage, he was trying to comfort her the way he used to when she was upset but couldn't move well enough to come across as the 'strong, comforting, trustworthy' leader, he didn't have the ability to rest his hand as heavily and soothingly too, which is his normal way of comforting her.
This was likely coz he heard Casca telling Gut's her worries about his weakened state, and wanted to do something for her, but ultimately just ended up flopping on her and trying to talk to her as usual, forgetting he had no tongue.
His weakened state, made him more vulnerable to his own emotions. He couldn't fool anyone anymore about his feelings not even himself, and he knew Casca had seen him in a similar vulnerable state before when he clawed his arms up in the river reflecting, so he trusted her to understand, but Casca's composure was almost always dependant on seeing Griffith maintain his composure, in that carriage scene he lost it as he forgot his own inabilities and allowed emotions to move him thinking he'd do as he'd done before.
Griffith doesn't seem to fully understand how he really effects the people around him.
This would've broke Casca; seeing Griffith all wrecked yet still trying to comfort her, only to struggle which was why Gut's found her crying beside the carriage.
If he wanted to have s*x with Casca or r*** her he could've done it any time when he was in his prime, but didn't, because his morals went against it and he knows how it'd look since he was the one who saved her from a rap**t. He had no problem having his way with the princess, because she was a ticket to him (yet also had an interest in him even tho it was different) and an outlet for all his pent-up, unprocessed emotions towards Guts.
I find the bedroom time he had with the princess, was more like a type of self-harm/devastation since he's shown self-sacrifice behaviours and even spoken of sacrificing himself (what he said in the river scene with Casca) in the series.
Gut's was the one who agitated all of his pent up emotions, because he saw Gut's running and thriving by his emotions with his 'live in the moment and experience life in the moment' approach to life.
But Griffith never really got to fully express himself or let loose (obsessed with his dream), so when he became Femto all that he regarded as 'wrong' would've turned into an opportunity for power, including seeing Casca as an object to dominate before Guts to show-off power. Femto transformation was like some demonic force entering his body and operating his mind/feelings like a remote control, conveniently so Griffith could have his dream.
for me, it looks like Griff was so desperate, he knew that he can't achieve his dream anymore bcos of his state, he already lost Guts, so he forced himself to Casca in order to secure his future, bcos he knew that Casca will take care of him, but since he saw that Casca was already close to Guts, he did that. That was a desperate move for me.
8:30 men this is f'ing easy: Just one question Griffith should pose: Why you want to leave Guts? Especially Griffith as the socially intelligent leader should pose at least the question. Cause he as the great brains who wants to understand should clearly first ask before striking. I always found that this is unrealistic after all the dialog which happened between the figures over three years! But Miura f it I want drama so let's act the figures like total morons especially Griffith out of character.
Why does he have to kill guts?
The point where you realize this dude completely misunderstands Griffith & Guts' relationship is when he says that Griffith killing Guts would've ended in him living happily for the rest of his life.
trolololol
He should have killed the Griffith because of that they all suffered
You pronounce Casca wrong.
guts didn't have a goated so without griffith berserk wond'not be interest till now
Griffith did nothing wrong!!!