Team Liquid vs TSM | Week 6 Day 1 S10 LCS Spring 2020 | TSM vs TL W6D1
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LoL eSports S10 NA LCS Regional Qualifier - TSM vs TL | League of Legends NA LCS 2020 Team Liquid vs TSM VOD 1080p Full HD.
Second match of the day - Team Liquid vs TSM best of 1.
TL vs TSM W6D1 full game in HD 1080p.
Team Liquid Line-up:
Impact - Top Sett
Broxah - Jungle Gragas
Jensen - Mid Zoe
Tactical - ADC Miss Fortune
CoreJJ - Support Braum
Team Solomid Line-up:
Broken Blade - top Kayle
Dardoch - jungle Sejuani
Bjergsen - mid maokai
Kobbe - ADC Varus
Biofrost - support Tahm Kench
Patch: 10.4 - Season 10
Game date: 29.02.2020 | 02/29/2020 | February 29th 2020
Game place: LCS Studio
Casters: Kobe and Phreak
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Glad to see broxah happy that he’s finally in the states.
Tsm: Puts Bjerg on a carry like syndra
Wins
Also Tsm: Maokai Mid baby
lmao syndra was banned
He can only play syndra or zilean, hes been subpar on everything else. Maokai is a good pick into zoe, he just doesnt know how to play it. He doesnt know how to team fight or peel for his team. He runs away first.
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Lost to TL with shernfire and now lost to TL with tactical🤣🤣🤣.
Harrison They did the same thing with Shernfire and J4 so what is your point? They stuck a rookie on what was probably a comfort champ which is a good logical draft choice. TSM could not expose a late substitution 2 games in 1 season. But, TL destroyed this game as opposed to the week 1 game.
@@andrewkravmaga1833 I didn't say it was a bad choice. I'm just saying MF is braindead and insanely strong. It was a good draft move. I'd draft MF too if I was a coach, especially for someone who isn't comfortable on the big stage since it's easy to execute.
Also J4 is way harder than MF.
@@vgamedude12 braindead yeah but in teamfight her ulti timing and position also very important. Coz beside w passive extra movespeed, she very vulnerable.
@@vgamedude12 Watch Teddy play MF vs anyone else. Hell look at caps on MF to see how someone can be so useless. Honestly MF is a lot better seeing someone perform on compared to face stomp kaisa/xayah from last season where they melt you after 2-3 items.
@@harpreetbasra6127 Caps had like 2 bad mf games lmao calm down. He can play much harder champs than mf at a much higher level, why do you think people like rekless whined so much about playing mages? Because they couldnt
if TSM won with maokai mid, soloq will be flooded with maokai mid. and thank god they didnt win.
true i find it rly cringy when pro players try some crazy comp and then u get plats and diamonds playin it ... and goin 0/10
@@daotainvasion had a soraka jng..... went 0/22
It's pretty impressive that all TSM members have 100% kill participation.
Or is it sad that the only kill they get all game required 5 people? xD
12IQRodentWithWings r/whoosh
12IQRodentWithWings even worst that the tank got it
@@Onestonedbake The joke didn't go over my head you silly fuck xD
Silver lining
are those X Men jerseys from TL? can someone explain?
yeah theyre partnered with marvel. they had some other marvel jerseys last split and they used cpt. america last week i think
@@scottdinh5120 they look good honestly
Marvel is one of their partners/sponsors.
@@scottdinh5120 last week was Endgame Quantum Realm travel jerseys.
Pain,agony,desperation you can have all of these If you're a TSM fan.
Experience is speaking.
LOL'd at Biofrost leaving Kobbe behind at 27:35
ye you right he should have waited for kobbe so jensen can get the double
@@Sarubotai I think they could have taken Jensen out or at least dissuaded him with the amount of time biofrost can stall. But yeah ace would have been nice
You're supposed to be able to enter as long as Tahm Kench hasn't gone underground yet. Either that was changed, or he's misclicking.
that was kobbes fault
I think kobe can at least force jensen back 2v1 varus has damage
LOVE seeing muh boy Maokai in professional play. Brings a tear to my eye 🥰
Nice to see that relationship between broxah and impact 🤖
Whats the bug with sunfire?
21:12 biofrost pls
i really dont want TL lose for broxah bec they might blame him if they lost
He got mvp
Subbing in Tactical was a Tactical decision
Summoner
Doublelift:........
Tactical actually big brain, buffers bullet rain on where he predicted Brokenblade would flash 27:30
Doublelift: guess I continue to get sick agn is wise choice :)
can someone explain why doublelift wasnt in this game? been busy w schoolwork so i havent been catching up on any of the leagues lately
Chibi Pantheon sickness
TotalWarKS oh damn well hopefully he gets better
Got deported to China after bringing coronavirus.
I hate being a tsm fan 🤣
It wasn't all too bad a few years ago, now it's fucking painful
Try being a CLG fan.
@@givemeoats you got us there
Jee Vang it’ll never happen tho, look at the tsm subreddit, they worship him like a god lmao. Never seen a player get sucked off harder by his own fans.
@Jee Vang bjergsen is part owner of tsm lol. And in any case bio and brokenblade are performing a lot worse than he is in their losses
Did bjergsen even W zoe or Mf one time? Late ults, doesnt peel for his team. If you dont know how to play it, why even pick it.
Maybe you should play for him next time....
TEAM LIQUID IS ONLINE BABYYYYY!!!
TREESM IS BACK BABY
wow bjerg's beard! bravo! how come no ones talking about THAT... really rare for a player to grow a proper beard these days in this line of business
beards don't win you championships.
where is DL?
Wtf where's dl
Let's goooooo Impaaaact!!!!!!
For picking a broken champion? You literally don't even need to be good to win games with Sett right now.
@@danhelsing5131 Because his opponent picked a scaling champion? Sett ain't even OP.
DanHelsing TSM fab spotted
@@annie4584 I mean people called sett broken when BB played it and used that as an excuse why they won.
Glad seeing tactical doing good, I have seeing him soloq duo with corejj a lot
Overall doing well beside early laning phase lose some cs against varus.
Tactical looking hella good. Wp.
? its either me not getting the irony, or you watched an other game :D TSM made it kinda free, not the draft, but the execution. Kayle top donates 2 freekill - without much pressure from TL - so scaling got delayed. From 25:35 you can see how much vision they had knew only 2-3 enemy's position thats not how you go into a teamfight/disrespect maybe? which clearly unaffordable in their case :D
Talent Suppression Machine has Kobbe Trap in there for 2 years!!
TSM just bent over and ate that loss. Maybe their 2-0 last week made them complacent but jeez that far behind and they play like its even...
It's not happy to see they're messing with their timing for team fights. The roaming for Sejuani not that visible. At least they could have gone suffocating the mid or bot but it did not transpired. Brokenblade needs time to amplify his damage. And Bjergsen needs to carry not with a tank...
Phreak, you high? Malphite didn't even get buffed by the sunfire change
There is the free sm I know and love 😘
Make every game bo3 please
ok wow idk if anyone else noticed this but 27:32 predicting flash was pretty clean of tactical.
YESSS MAOKAI IS. BACK
GJ by Tactical!
Alright now make Tactical play Senna
doublelift leave TL??????
TL not looking good enough to beat C9 yet, but they're looking way better. Good progress.
What happened to doublelift?
he's just sick
@@TheLima290 corona?
Got deported to China cause of coronavirus.
Hi bro ^^
I like the idea, HOWEVER! Broken Blade can't solo carry. Bjergsen case had games of putting his entire team on his back and solo carrying them to victory. Broken Blade, although being a great player, can't do that, no matter how many times they try it. Granted I don't think they would have won even if Bjergsen was on Kayle, but I think they would have stood a better chance.
Chad Braum PogU
Don’t know where all the hate is coming but I would just like to say that it’s just the start of the year, these people are complaining about bad drafts, plays, and even players. If you guys don’t understand then here, this split doesn’t mean anything it’s basically just an experimental split to try out new teams and see how they would do against the others, it doesn’t mean that they should be playing like they are on the verge of elimination because this split doesn’t matter, the real split that matters is the split before the worlds. By that time, the teams have grown to understand each other more and theoretically be able to play more with their newfound play style and or picks. So to all the haters out there, not just tsm haters but haters of other teams, let me tell you this, don’t whine your ass off just because they aren’t playing and or drafting well, and don’t hate on the players if they are playing bad, it doesn’t mean that they’re bad overall (yes they might be underperforming) however it doesn’t mean that all underperforming players are dogshit in playing the game, at the very least, they understand the game more than you and play the game better than you.
AruKiri OωO it’s just their win or die mentality and they’ve been losing for the past 3 years with the reputation of their champion mindset
Do you know how much the game will change untill worlds? If teams suck now they will suck next split unless the meta really favours for some players. Thats why C9 loseless because they know the best whats the good gameplay right now while other teams just copying and dont do shit behind the scenes.
?? Why r u like this. Only the top teams from the spring split go to playoffs and from there they can bave the chance to go to MSI wdym it doesnt matter hello?
What happened to Doublelift?
sick
Fired
Murdered.
Abducted by aliens
corona
Is it just me or has Kobbe been just...underwhelming this split? I know he's adjusting to a new team and whatnot, but it seems as though he hasn't played poorly but I can't think of a "popoff" game of his yet.
He's been really consistent so far. This game was kinda weird as most of his deaths weren't his fault in particular. He had 3 tanks in the frontline for him and a Kayle to ult him, but TL flanked really well and was able to pick TSM's team apart in most teamfights. This and 2 big mistakes from Biofrost.
its the role
i swear to god varus is the most worthless, high picked champs, in the pro scene. like what is he gonna do into that comp? they just run anyone over without mobility. maybe if BB wasnt down for the count all game they could use his ult like theyre supposed to but idk man. id much rather have something with mobility
@@Pozhinat varus can deal alot of dmg in term of dps with his w and passive.(with bork and rage blade) His ulti also can be a engage tool to lock down enemy. But varus lack of mobility skill, so tsm try put tahm sp to protect him.
@@mahiruchan6424 completely agree. The Varus was actually a good choice with Tahm. TSMs comp wasn't bad (although I didn't liked). The problem was they couldn't play it well. If the survive a bit longer with a reasonable gold deficit (and protecting their carries) TL can't kill anyone and TSM just take whatever objective they want
Bjerg plays Maokai like he plays Syndra.
BB gets caught out knowing that sett smashes =kayle early game
He quite cautious tho for me after he get 1st blooded by impact. U can see by he sacrifice alot Cs there when he assume and know broxah was camping top side.
Why the hell they give bjerg champs he's not good with? Give him zed,ahri,syndra,ori damnnnnn!
Excus eme,Where's DLIFT??
He’s sick
He has laryngitis and cannot play
Quarantine for coronavirus.
aids.
He has socma.
Tactical had a really good game. His ults where on point and he looked so relaxed for his first game. A promising player :)
while i dont agree that bjergsen is bad, he is still a very good player in the league, but one trend i noticed is that he seemingly dodges Skillchecks with other top tier midlaners in the league. Against Jensen he played Zilean vs Orianna and Maokai vs Zoe, Nisqys Qiyana he counterpicked with renekton, against PoEs Syndra he picked Taliyah. These are all champs that you essentially pick and will never look bad on in the matchups. With Zilean you throw bombs to clear the waves and ult when necessary, you never look bad on that, on Maokai you just farm up and do maokai things in teamfights zoe will never really threaten you no matter what, with Renekton you cant look bad vs Qiyana considering how powerful Renektons early is vs qiyana fairly weak early and with Taliyah you just shove waves and go roam. Normally i would expect from one of the best Midlaners that he would try to prove that he is better than his peers and be like "oh you banned my syndra/LB then i gonna whack you with Midlaner X" especially when you have now Dardoch, arguably one of the best mechanical jglers in NA, on your team. instead he always opted for the matchup that wont do bad, but also isnt likely to carry by itself, a player that is confident in his ability wouldnt do that. Maybe this would be fine if it worked out but so far this has always backfired, when you ban Syndra/LB Bjergsen seemingly doesnt have a carry champ anymore or at least is feeling like that he can only compete on those two against the other top tier midlaners. Maybe it's because he is more focused on shotcalling now and can't be simultaneously a good carry player on a variety of champs, but then i might think that this is actually a waste of his talents, especially since shotcalling seems one of the major problem for TSM (yet again). They try to play around this problem by trying to enable BB up top while Kobbe/bio holds the fort on bot, but i dont think playing toplane focused is really that viable. here maybe lies the second big problem for TSM in that i think TSMs players just dont fit together stylistically in this fashion at least. Carry Top/Mid with utility Bot/Jgl can work, but i dont think thats dardochs strength and bjergsen cant deliver carry performances to reasons i mentioned. Carry Top/Bot can work, but thats not what Kobbe/Bio are good at. Carry Mid/jgl with Top/Bot utility can work, but that is not what BB has been best at traditionally and again bjergsens carry pool seems to small. In essence TSM has to find out how they really want to play the game and best approach imo is go for Carry Mid/jgl, find someone who can shotcall top and supp and can play utility or at least try to coach BB/Bio into that direction and play Bjergsen/dardoch as primary carries.
Bjerg is a 2 champ player. Have you seen his zoe? They think its easier to win if they rely on BB which is sucks in this meta i agree. Bio is in worst 3 supp atm. How can you position soo bad. He's straight nonexistant without rakan. My impression about Dardach he is only proactive if the lanes are hard winning otherwise he just afk farming.
@@kenvuaturmikszgep6362 Ye Bjergs Zoe was pretty unimpactful and somewhat confirmed my thoughts on him. Honestly most supps look pretty uninspiring this season, only real standouts are CoreJJ and Vulcan, the rest is underwhelming. Though i wouldnt say that bio is per se a problem, TSM just doesnt seem to know what to do sometimes and just falls apart in one game and performing well next week (usually with bjerg on LB/Syndra). And dardoch who was prolly best NA jgler especially in terms of aggression and mechanics turned into a more farming passive jgler in TSM, so pretty much the story of every jgler to ever join TSM, somehow they manage to make every jgler worse who joins them.
No chance at all to support TSM rn since they dont even look like a finalist this split
I hate to say it but tactical was a beast this game
No Impact and Broxah were beast this game. Tactical was losing in the laning phase. He had one really good ult to clear the wave and set up that mid lane team fight. The triple kill was just him cleaning up doing adc things. He looked alright. Nothing like a beast though
When Tactical whiffed that MF ult at bot lane I literally wanted to cry. It was the perfect ult but he straight W H I F F E D
Imagine being TSM and vod reviewing this game. Tactical is struggling to CS from the get go. He has boosted ults and yet TSM is down 3k gold. How bad of a team do you have to be where one guy isn't even playing at a decent level and yet you're getting smashed this hard.
He only missed one relax he did fine
@@harpreetbasra6127 he was 10 cs behind for most of the game - thats not really struggeling
@@AlexanderTrefz It might not be much in lower elo, but at that level, 10 cs is a huge difference. I can't remember that one pro, but he said, "I was destroying him in lane, I was ahead by 11cs the whole time."
In high elo, they know how to take the smallest of gold leads and snowball it
@@AlexanderTrefz He was down 10 with no jungle pressure from TSM. If you look at the laning phase, there was never any wards from TSM side or any pressure from dardoch while having full bot side control. FYI, a lot of those cs miss were just uncontested pressure.
In pro play you can't over extend in fear of TP/jungle ganks so eventually the lane gets ping pong. Just FreeSM style where they don't happen to play on their strong side.
Why did TSM draft Maokai mid?
@@headie3737 in reality, it falls behind and gets 1 shot by her anyways. i liked the idea, just like i liked renek on paper. but in practice; no one else picking it for a reason
Sunfire cape buff that's why they pick for maokai. Mid tanks is too popular meta right now. ...Ornn mid is too broken 😄
shouldve picked lucian
They made get a scaling comp with tanks as frontlines.
Jee Vang how many times are you gonna comment that mate
bio just ate dardoch and let kobbe die at the 1940 skirmish..... idk man as much as i love vincent i think its hurting the caliber of their botlane these r things supports learn when they play in diamond level teams............
go broxah
STOP MAKING BJERG PLAY TANKS
Where doublelift??? Corona virus?
Its some kind of sore throat, I think.
Deported to China.
He has socma.
agents what is socma?
Man... I don't know the game like they do, but I watch a lot of sports, and I never see a team put their players in a different position, and going well. You have one of the best mid lanes north america has ever seen to put him as a tank? I know there are strategies at the game, whatever... But play simple, most of the times, is the best way.
Have you ever thought that they put him on a tank because he isn't one of the best mid laners anymore?
@@prof1crl Maybe, but that's not the point. Look at TSM's team. He still the best player they have. So you put him to carry.
@@_BrunoSouza He isn't the best performing member by far. Look at his games. Even though his scores might be ok-ish, he is under performing as a midlaner. Kobbe and BB have been much better so far.
What a surprise, TSM playing like garbage against a decent team and the only one who even got a kill was Bjergsen.
If he wasn't given partial ownership of the entire brand, he really should've left that dumpster fire of a team.
If Bjerg actually cared about winning he would not have taken the ownership, he is happy with money.
I mean TL has the better mid laner so... Bjerg never was better than Jensen. How many times did bjerg get out of groups at worlds, and other than that. Jensen wins lanijg vs bjerg in a much larger percentage of games.
@Jee Vang so he's only good on champions that require lots of skill?
Ok lmao
Kayle just scales too slow, at the fountain fight there, Kayle hit the 1 item support and did like 5 to 10% health per swing...on the support. They nerfed my girl a little too hard especially since games are decided much earlier this meta.
I just really wish they would revert the base stats and remove the channel from her ultimate while moving the dealt damage at the end of the ult duration so that it would give more time to enemies to react to leave the ult radius while Kayle now freely auto attacks enemies to death
hello again :)
greetings!
TSM just didn’t do TSM things. i understand them wanting to try new things and see what works or not. like in theory this should work as a team comp. they just never got ahead. dardoch was power farming on sejuani, instead of getting ganks off early. dardoch does best when he is able to synergize around top. however the lack of CC in the top lane killed them. BB got behind early game and the entire team fell apart. they really lost their identity this game and looked like that week 1 team again.
But that's exactly the point.Tsm did tsm things.Like that drake fight that cost them the game.
they just draft like shit. never seen bjergsen win on a tank in mid. like put the best midlane na on a tank. doesn make sense. also Dardoch is a absolutly sleeper, he wont try plays he farm and sleep in jgl
Hades Zero they did in the aspect of they lost the game in horrible fashion after looking pretty good. They just played what’s new this patch and it just didn’t pan out for them. They got too far behind early game and their comp was late game reliant. They didn’t try to contest any early game and went for bad trades. They need to get Dardoch on early game jungle like lee sin or someone with early CC. He wasn’t able to tank and get his lanes ahead and it showed this game
@@garrettvandorn5938 i think tsm got outplayed by sett. He chunked down kobbe cced carries and tanked alot. Also bb did literally no dmg the whole game and the reliant dmg was completly missing on tsm for the teamfights. Like Kayle will only do dmg late and varus just doesnt pack as much dmg as the meta adcs to carry fights
Get Rekt this is true. Their comp was heavily centered around late game. They lacked the damage to sustain and even compete in the team fights
Maokai and kayle, is this how you want to win? Just get bjerg on carry free wins
this is obviously tsm trolling draft. like, how could this possibly be a real draft
TL wins because they now got the best jungler
7 angry tsm fans disliked this KEKW
Why the fuck is Bjerg playing Maokai mid, He said in his drive or whatever the fuck it was he knew what he needed to do to win, clearly his brain fell out.
maokai mid? todays joke
sett is so op
WE HAVE NO FUCKING JUNGLER AND NO CARRY MIDLANER ! WHERE ARE THE OLD BJERGSEN CARRY PICKS ??????????????
“TSM is our greatest threat not TL. Oh and Dignitas is pretty strong too they can compete” - C9 Vulcan.
Meanwhile TL destroys both teams in a row. Don’t disrespect the 4-time champs! It’s only halfway thru the split kids, playoffs is different this year. Top 6 teams make playoffs and TL is already there easily.
What happen to my boy dlift
He got sick
Sick of losing*
Thien Hua He is “Sick” from playing professionally and retired.
Corona
@@Goodboyobito cololna
So wait we put jensen on a carry and we win surprised pikachu face
Still gets outshined by some noob on MF. ADC balanced btw
@@SuperAllelujah Look at damage tho. All from right click
@@vgamedude12 That's what adcs do?
@@SuperAllelujah Thats the point. Its bullshit
Harrison bruh an adc doing absurd damage is the point you do you know what adc stands for right
FREESM!
LMAOKAI
21:09 NA ult
Heyy Ti eS Lame, bring Dyrus back yo looooosers
what a bad comp from TSM
Three tanks, à scaling top, and what was bot again...
FreeSM
They need to keep Tactical. And I don't mean a 100% Doublelift is worse than Tactical but DL is unmotivated and is sucking right now. The stuff Tactical did in team fights should be basic shit but most pros have gotten so scared to properly commit to fights. So this is nice from TL to see. Let Tactical play for a bit and bring back DL later. 'Cause obviously TL at full power with a motivated DL will be what TL needs to do well internationally. But as of now I think Tactical shouldn't only just stay 'cause DL is sick. At least let Tactical play next week as well. Unless he plays today and feeds super hard vs 100T. But I've found that DL just doesn't follow the team enough. He's often farming waves while the team is looking to do something and when a fight does happen, DL is in the back. But Tactical was walking forward constantly. And Tactical is actually flashing abilities.
auTSM strikes again
NA, AKA EU/KR lite.
The irony is that Tactical was poached by TL FROM TSM! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
Poached? Really?
Throw
that ult of mf 22:01 if doublelift i think they have more kill than to 1
Brokenblade and kobbe aren’t that consistent
TEAM SOLO FROST
Nerf Sett pls.
So many mad tsm fans 👀. u rather them play the same shit over and over and over? Failure comes first before success. Game wasnt even that bad. Couple things that dont happen that game and its a dub 🤷♂️
AYYY 1st.
That aside, this was a terrible draft from TSM. Nothing to stop the other team from getting a decent early lead. 3K by 15 mins is never good.
Their late game scaling is great. They jus never reach that point and TL crush them early and mid game.
@@mahiruchan6424 that's the point. Their draft was banking on TL not doing anything. Kayle top was a terrible choice given the sej jungle.
@@triplea657aaa oh well I seldom see bb play kayle also Lol. Unless he spam kayle in his solo que streamers which I duno xd. BB usually a carry bruiser players for me. Guess they ban aatrox and impact 1st pick sett meta pick great choice.
Tsm srsly needs to change the coach 🤦♂️
Broken blade is worse than hauntzer lol
The sad thing is people have him #2 as a top laner. What games have they been watching? Hell even in LCK last year people still respect Kiin as top 3 if not best top laner in LCK when his team is dog. Broken brain has been a huge reason whenever TSM has lost games but I guess playing different picks against great talent in V1per/Kumo/Soaz/Hauntzer means he's a good top laner.
KAYLE TOP, MAOKAI MID.....
I think kayle is not bad, but maokai mid makes no sense.
They should pick another mid
TSM is such a joke these days, it's honestly pretty sad
Another game with Zoe in it, another game not worth watching
TSM promising a lot to us even if they trying hard, this promising players got no future in TSM.
TALENT SUPRESSION MACHINE
Jee Vang i do believed in them but not in the TSM