HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision HDR Comparison | Best HDR Movie Format

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • Today we answer the other question of whether Dolby Vision is better than HDR10+, the other dynamic metadata HDR format.
    The Vizio P Series Quantum X is one of the only TVs that support all the HDR standards out there, and we’ll be using it for our comparison
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  • @tHAvIlLaMaN
    @tHAvIlLaMaN  Před 3 lety +32

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    • @junkpusha
      @junkpusha Před 3 lety +2

      I fully expected to like the Dolby vision better but I prefer the 10+. Thanks for the great video

    • @JonathanKamminga7
      @JonathanKamminga7 Před 3 lety +1

      Why would you not be using an OLED in this type of video, the LED in comparison to LG’s C9 is a world apart and real world wise would the OLED destroy that led model..
      Awesome videos and I’m definitely a fan 🤙🏼

    • @akuno7294
      @akuno7294 Před 3 lety +1

      I see a problem with your comparison. HDR10+ and DV are mastered separately. If HDR10+ is overall brighter then this is a studio decision, not a limitation of one of the standards. As you said in the end, they both look nearly identical. I say if any standard wins (like with blueray and hddvd) let it be the one that is more open and costs less. This will only benefit the consumer in the long run.

    • @danielp6878
      @danielp6878 Před 3 lety

      Hi Villa man do you still think this holds true. Deciding between a 85 inch q90a 2021 or a LG C1 77 inch .

    • @toyin.dindoinlove9236
      @toyin.dindoinlove9236 Před 2 lety

      If my firestick has hdr10+ but the tv no hdr+ will there be an improvement in video quality or if I get a firestick with no hdr10+ but the tv has hdr10+ will the video be better?

  • @Pmhz.
    @Pmhz. Před 4 lety +913

    Watching this in 360p with blue filter

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Před 4 lety +104

      😅

    • @anmolthakur8384
      @anmolthakur8384 Před 4 lety +8

      Pmhz I literally hate comments like this !

    • @Pmhz.
      @Pmhz. Před 4 lety +70

      @@anmolthakur8384 try to relax, geez..

    • @DrunkenRhinoceros
      @DrunkenRhinoceros Před 4 lety +28

      @@Pmhz. Looks great on my 13 in black and white with rabbit ears decoding algorithm. Works best on UHF 20.

    • @DroneCorpse
      @DroneCorpse Před 4 lety +22

      @@anmolthakur8384 I literally hate comments like this !

  • @felixarzuaga5805
    @felixarzuaga5805 Před 4 lety +11

    Idk why the hell this guy has only 34k subscribers! Best videos you can watch on all this technology. Perfect picture quality and really good explanation on what you watching. Good job buddy you should have way more than 34k subscribers.

  • @djlowtek
    @djlowtek Před 4 lety +353

    Just like EVERYTHING -- it depends on the source content 100%.
    You can have a HDR10+ video that looks better than Dolby Vision.
    You can have a Dolby Vision video that looks better than HDR10+
    You can have two Dolby Vision videos that look incredibly different from one another.
    You can have two HDR10+ videos that look incredibly different from one another.

    • @DV-ou1yu
      @DV-ou1yu Před 4 lety +19

      It's ridiculous and too random now lol

    • @Cuthalu
      @Cuthalu Před 4 lety +11

      So just like everything, when you compare apples to bananas you can get all kinds of results. But that has nothing to do with the question which is better format.

    • @djlowtek
      @djlowtek Před 4 lety +14

      @@Cuthalu Yes, it does. Are you so stupid really can't see the point? You can compare the SHARED components of each thing... Apples and Bananas are both fruit, they both grow on trees, they both have fucking skin, they're both sweet. Don't be a dense difficult asshole in life and people will think you're a bitch a bit less.

    • @TheCrucialQ
      @TheCrucialQ Před 4 lety +1

      DV processing is DV processing, your TV gamma setting can have a negative affect on PQ. 2.2 is the expected gamma, just hope your display 2.2 gamma is a correct factory calibrated 2.2.
      Also, remember that colorist have control over the brightness of any element in the content, DV represents the creators intent.
      Your Panasonic is known to have some DV processing issues. So make sure to turn off enhancement settings when DV content is played.

    • @nuitarix8160
      @nuitarix8160 Před 4 lety +10

      @@djlowtek You left out the words "that" and "you" right after calling someone stupid.

  • @jryanmood
    @jryanmood Před 4 lety +4

    Great video! I actually have a Vizio P Series Quantum X 65 inch so I loved seeing this comparison video and I’m glad it supports all the HDR formats! It’s interesting how hdr10 is overall brighter and I love that my Xbox One X supports 4K hdr10 games. They look amazing too. Keep up the good work villa man! 😀

  • @rocked30
    @rocked30 Před 4 lety +6

    Great video, kept them coming. That's definitely a comparison I wanted to see.

  • @gerRule
    @gerRule Před 4 lety +204

    I was watching *Our Planet* earlier today on Netflix in Dolby Vision on the LG C9 and it was very bright! Looked amazing

    • @romance27
      @romance27 Před 4 lety +7

      This tv is a masterpiece

    • @MisterReen
      @MisterReen Před 3 lety +3

      @Haywire Infinity it’s a matter of taste. I personally set the max Brightness to „medium“ on my E9. This limits the hdr effect a little bit, but for me personally it’s very fine. The max setting was too bright for me.

    • @PixelPotionCafe
      @PixelPotionCafe Před 3 lety

      Visio PQX does 3000 nits 😜

    • @ball182
      @ball182 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MisterReen brightness isn’t brightness it’s black level.. if you don’t know what you’re doing it’s best not to touch those settings

    • @kingofkingz235
      @kingofkingz235 Před 3 lety +1

      I got that tv last year and I love it LG C9 plus the sl10yg soundbar it's amazing

  • @jeanp.5929
    @jeanp.5929 Před 3 lety +24

    HDR10 seems to be just fine where as HDR10+ brightens everything up and Dolby Vision has good color contrast. I'm really fine with just HDR10. The difference isn't that noticeable unless you're trying to compare them. Even then, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision have minute differences from HDR10.
    But, between HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, I would pick Dolby Vision. But in real life, lol, I bought a HDR10+ capable TV. So, I want to watch movies in HDR10+.

  • @JohnnyOrgan
    @JohnnyOrgan Před 3 lety +1

    Exactly the kind of comparison I was looking for. Had no idea what HDR10+ was til today. Subscribed for you being so easy to understand and helpful. Also left this comment and a Like.

  • @JilesMcCoy
    @JilesMcCoy Před 4 lety +4

    Love your channel man! Always good stuff! If you are ever down for a collab let me know!

  • @ledooni
    @ledooni Před 4 lety +264

    HDR10(+) seems to make more sense combined with (Q)LED because of their higher black levels so that the details are displayed brighter. For OLED on the other hand with its capability of true blacks I assume the darker parts of the picture in Dolby Vision would still retain most of the detail and you would actually be able to increase picture quality with the higher contrast. So I think LG’s and Sony‘s approaches both make sense to focus on the technology that favors their type of panel.

    • @tuwdc
      @tuwdc Před 4 lety +12

      HDR10+ and HDR10 are identically on a calibrated Oled. No difference in any Movie. From what i Heard, the + Tone Mapper is for Displays with less than 500 Nits only. Alita on an Oled has much More Contrast in Dolby Vision

    • @LK-yf1ov
      @LK-yf1ov Před 3 lety +41

      @@tuwdc "from what i heard"
      OK tkanks for ur opinion
      🤣

    • @Nodirm93
      @Nodirm93 Před 3 lety +24

      @@LK-yf1ov he heard or read from somewhere.. just like others. you being useless, thats my opinion and its real one.

    • @asianhavoc1872
      @asianhavoc1872 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Nodirm93 and True

    • @robitaillecopeland1996
      @robitaillecopeland1996 Před 3 lety +1

      that's not how this works...that's not how any of this works

  • @randall96
    @randall96 Před 4 lety +75

    I didn't know HDR+ and Dolby have changing scene brightness. That's amazing!

    • @NecroMorrius
      @NecroMorrius Před 4 lety +7

      This is the point of Dolby Vision, it has metadata to control brightness

    • @kagenotatsumaki
      @kagenotatsumaki Před 3 lety +7

      I actually hate that about DV, it's distracting to see the whole picture shift brightness imo.

    • @Sheoloch
      @Sheoloch Před 3 lety +5

      @@NecroMorrius So does HDR 10+

    • @mailson3469
      @mailson3469 Před 2 lety

      Resume in qled vs Oled war again haha, i prefer qled(hdr10+), Netflix Will use it someday?

  • @chrisjfox8715
    @chrisjfox8715 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm glad these comparisons exist...but my takeaway is almost always that if you have to study side by side comparisons to notice the difference then it becomes fairly irrelevant to the times you're just enjoying a movie.

  • @milldude19
    @milldude19 Před 4 lety +65

    Good test and well done. I watched on my tv in 4K w/HDR and my opinion is the the DV coloring is better, but too dark. HDR10+ details were better in the darkness. So I agree with your take.

  • @tommi7554
    @tommi7554 Před 3 lety +52

    I've noticed this too, HDR10+ does make better overall job in various contents.
    I have two tv's , another with dolby vision and another supports hdr10+, and after days of comparing, hdr10+ was slightly better.
    Ofcourse if i wouldn't have anything to compare, i wouldn't miss a thing.
    Most of the people won't even see the difference, they watch a movie, not the details and contrasts...

  • @fish3010
    @fish3010 Před 4 lety +31

    You got me at "We also review audio here"

  • @dajuangordon2007
    @dajuangordon2007 Před 4 lety +20

    Definitely subscribed because I for sure was staring at them speakers 😂

  • @Odank
    @Odank Před 4 lety +23

    Great comparison. It would be interesting to see how the Dolby Vision compares between this Vizio, an LG Oled and the Sony to see how processing may affect the overall presentation. At least for me personally, DV on an LG 2017 Oled looks brighter in average picture brightness than regular HDR. Some low luminance scenes can look “murky” but you can still see the detail in shadows and what not.

  • @Biglover29
    @Biglover29 Před rokem

    I love that transition between the overview & first comparison. This was pretty informative, thanks.

  • @iansteventon4221
    @iansteventon4221 Před 3 lety +3

    Best comparison video on you tube.
    New subscriber, thank you for your efforts.
    I always had a feeling that dolby vision was crushing my blacks /shadow detail on my oled v hdr 10.
    In my own comparisons (ub820 dolby vision v xbox hdr) I found the same results as you did.
    Keep up with the good work 👍 (oh and nice t shirt, but it's COLOUR! (🇬🇧 🤣) ✌️

  • @hungrynapps
    @hungrynapps Před 4 lety +9

    I feel like I have watched this before.. lol.. I love your videos with hlg hdr. I think u should do a how to get perfect vid settings on a lg tv and other brands

  • @eldementecentrino
    @eldementecentrino Před 2 lety +1

    Finally, a well put comparison. Explained & perfect side by side view. Thanks for that!!

  • @bobby1970
    @bobby1970 Před 3 lety +1

    I just want to know which of these formats will look best on a near future micro LED panel display? Also, is Dolby Vision the only format that supports 12 bit technology?

  • @allnovieveryday
    @allnovieveryday Před 3 lety +4

    Super useful thanks. The differences remind me of RAW camera files where you can simply just slide contrast or highlights around to whatever exposure you want. The difference is there is no "correct" it all comes down to which you prefer.

  • @arjunt973
    @arjunt973 Před 3 lety +8

    I didn’t even know youtube videos can be in hdr lol good stuff man

  • @chrisholmes4037
    @chrisholmes4037 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video brother. I swear that I try to prefer the Dolby Vision, my tv always seems so dark (Sony A8G). I have the Panasonic Ub820 and love it. I use it for physical media, but for VUDU, things are so dark.

  • @theredoutdoors
    @theredoutdoors Před 4 lety

    Just curious to what camera you are using to make this video?? Picture quality is unreal and your reviews are incredible, thanks for all the info brother!!

  • @ch0ch1s
    @ch0ch1s Před 4 lety +5

    You are wonderful! Thanks for this kind of videos, this is what actually matters to the consumer!

  • @jedione12345
    @jedione12345 Před 3 lety +1

    Have had the LG E9 for about a year now. What I've learned is basically HDR10 uses Gamma 2.2 and Dolby vision uses Gamma BT.1886. HDR10 is a bit better for daytime viewing but at night time the blacks may look a bit grey or as some people call it "raised blacks". Dolby vision depending on the content sometimes has more crushed blacks. But overall slightly better looking image.

  • @shieldtv593nvidia7
    @shieldtv593nvidia7 Před 3 lety +57

    Feels like For QLED HDR10+ makes more sense and Dolby Vision for OLED's

    • @abhaydabas79
      @abhaydabas79 Před 3 lety +1

      I have a QLED with Dolby vision and 4k I think it is good

    • @coke252010
      @coke252010 Před 3 lety

      In the Sony x900F (2018) the dolby looks so good!

    • @rohit-gk5lr
      @rohit-gk5lr Před 3 lety

      @@abhaydabas79 which qled does support Dolby vision?

    • @abhaydabas79
      @abhaydabas79 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rohit-gk5lr TCL - [55c15] WITH (4k 55-inch screen with dolby vision and dolby atmosphere and HDR 10)

    • @Noob-oc1wp
      @Noob-oc1wp Před 3 lety

      While me using chinese Direct LED TV and it has both Dolby Vision and HDR 😜

  • @ro-ninma-ta3871
    @ro-ninma-ta3871 Před 3 lety +3

    On my Sony xh90 I can always choose between division dark or bright, on darker movies the bright setting helps to see the details in darker areas...

  • @adnap
    @adnap Před 2 lety +1

    I have a question.
    It’s now nearly 2 years later now, and the Vizio P Series Quantum X ( I have the 2021 75 inch model)
    It has improved greatly and continues to improve via firmware updates.
    Are we there yet ? Are we now getting full use of Dolby Plus and HDR10+ ?

  • @Subhranil.
    @Subhranil. Před 3 lety +9

    Damn that hdr10 plus
    And thanks for the HDR upload man..

  • @mnormansell1984
    @mnormansell1984 Před 4 lety +6

    Maybe DV isn't as huge as people say going off this.
    DV 4000 - 10000nits
    HDR10+ 1000 - 4000nits
    Yet these films were brighter in HDR10+.
    No mention of better colours from DV 12bit colour palette, and to top it off DV caused black crush, i thought the tone mapping from DV would be better . . . . . . Apparently not.
    Actually he does mention the colour looked slightly better on the DV with the girls top, not a big difference but better regardless.

  • @chrisward9531
    @chrisward9531 Před 4 lety +3

    Does this change some of your past recommendations. Previously you raised Samsung tvs lacking DV as a concern, but if the reality is it does not make that much difference and the panels don't support 12 bit to begin with should DV really be a reason not to buy a Samsung at this point? How does streaming content compare? Meaning Netflix content in DV on a Samsung vs a comparable Sony model? What I would like to understand is, do the other features of a samsung cause hdr content to be displayed better still even without supporting DV compared to the similar sony model? Thank you, and appreciate your content.

  • @Sgtbigmike
    @Sgtbigmike Před 4 lety +13

    I think the dark scenes in HDR10+ are fantastic but for bright scenes I like the Dolby Vision. Also if it's an in between scene then it might be a tossup for me.

    • @salexander3801
      @salexander3801 Před 4 lety +1

      Sgtbigmike yeaa, They literately are black and white. I believe the dolby with a higher brightness will make it look better overall

  • @leahzellers6703
    @leahzellers6703 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Loved how you did comparisons!!!!

  • @dennisbohner6876
    @dennisbohner6876 Před 4 lety

    With the multitude of settings available in my Vizpx, I use different ones for the differing replay formats. I adjust to please ME.
    I can because I live alone.
    One thing comes to mind. Does the TV itself make these differences notable. A separate evaluation could be beneficial to lock this down a bit more. Also, damn me, I went out of my way to make sure I had the DOLBY compatibility. Maybe I just needed to spend more to fully realize any benefits of DOLBY?

  • @radsan3006
    @radsan3006 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the terrific comparisons!

  • @Truth-Justice-Freedom
    @Truth-Justice-Freedom Před 7 měsíci +3

    IMO the brightness of HDR10+ shows MUCH MORE shadow details so we can see things more/better in the shadows/shades/deep color areas. I prefer it!

    • @ugoewulonu4936
      @ugoewulonu4936 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I totally agree. I hate the idea of having details crushed in dark scenes.

  • @RyleyYoung
    @RyleyYoung Před 3 lety

    Combining your thoughts from this video + your streaming 4K vs 4Kdisc video. What are your thoughts on discs that are released with only HDR10 where their streaming counterparts have DolbyVision. Would you still see the improvements?

  • @Jerry-rf8bn
    @Jerry-rf8bn Před 3 lety +1

    At my age, for better or worse, I am a bit of a "tin-ear" when it comes to listening to music or other sounds and a bit of a "tin-eye" when comes to evaluating visual equipment. Still, I do enjoy your videos. Your opinions and information have been very helpful. Thank you.

  • @karadawy
    @karadawy Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing. I was searching for this comparison
    Is HDR10 pro out of the comparison?

  • @valessarous
    @valessarous Před 3 lety +23

    Great work, sir!
    Confirmed my suspicions. I always thought that Dolby vision looked slightly dimmer on average than Hdr10. Both can deliver stunning images but for some reason I always found myself drawn to Hdr10.

  • @venugopal940
    @venugopal940 Před 4 lety +60

    Hey villa great efforts and editing skills......

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Před 4 lety +8

      Thank you!

    • @hipolita2309
      @hipolita2309 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tHAvIlLaMaN my Tv is Phillips 43pus7334/12. When I watch video with HDR10+ or DV the picture is accelerated ... in any HDR mode (normal, movie) is this normal ?. how to change it?

  • @danrazART
    @danrazART Před 3 lety +1

    I subbed because... That logo of yours is QUALITY! 😂
    Top reviews my friend.

  • @dady5000
    @dady5000 Před 3 lety

    Appreciate the video. Makes me feel a little better about the lack of dolby vision on ps5 isn't a huge difference here it seems. Will look stellar either way.

  • @MJOLNIRMARKSIX
    @MJOLNIRMARKSIX Před 2 lety +2

    Every article I've read lately says Dolby Vision is better. I hate that. I prefer to see for myself. Thanks. For me Seeing what's in the shadows is important to me so HDR10+ is what is best for me now and simplifies my decision.

  • @scross086
    @scross086 Před 3 lety

    wow, very well done! More professional then ANY review I've encountered on YT or anywhere else!!

  • @fotoulis88
    @fotoulis88 Před 3 lety

    Hello there can you PLEASE tell me if you have any opinion for sony xh8196 and samsung qled q60t ? Sony has dolby vision and sammy hdr10plus.. I am between the two and i cant decide... are they worth it ? Or i should go with a better 2019's tv ?

  • @anthonyk453
    @anthonyk453 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, helped a lot. Thank you.

  • @ASuwan22
    @ASuwan22 Před 4 lety +1

    Another banging video my man!

  • @thomasnichols872
    @thomasnichols872 Před rokem

    Just curious, but which Dolby Vision setting was this test run on? There’s typically Dolby Vision Dark, Bright, or Vivid. Vivid looks best to me, as it’s hands down the brightest. Just wondering which you used

  • @sirqdoled1203
    @sirqdoled1203 Před 4 lety +44

    It's funny how everybody falls over each other for a simple comparison. There is simple no right or wrong answer here. Sometimes even hdr 10 looks better then those two others.

    • @roflcopter3625
      @roflcopter3625 Před 3 lety +3

      just no 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @jacobmarley2417
      @jacobmarley2417 Před 3 lety +6

      @@roflcopter3625 Just yes, it is completely subjective outside of things that actually alter the image like ghosting.

    • @timppaUT
      @timppaUT Před 3 lety +1

      Area you suggesting that if picking up your HDR system is just a gamble, that ENGINEERS are wrong!? STOP THE PRESS!

    • @_Chad_ThunderCock
      @_Chad_ThunderCock Před 3 lety +2

      @@timppaUT no I don't think that's what their exactly trying to say. For the most part Dolby vision will be better, but in some rare anomalies it's possible that hdr10 actually does better (tho it's very rare). Overall it's safe to assume Dolby vision > HDR10+ > HDR 10:

    • @timppaUT
      @timppaUT Před 3 lety

      @@_Chad_ThunderCock Oy IS safe assume: WHY? Because toi happeen to like high contrast version of HDR? I myself was More like shocked that there was that much difference between those three!? (Well. More like two. 10 and 10+ were otettu same) If I was the leader of The global HDR development team, I would gonna keep long meeting because of that.

  • @dollarswhite2272
    @dollarswhite2272 Před 4 lety

    Awesome thank you my Hisense tv is just HDR10 2020 model but looks great in my old eyes

  • @myasin2974
    @myasin2974 Před 3 lety +2

    Which size is good for gaming in sony 4k 49 " or 55 "

  • @512SolidSnake
    @512SolidSnake Před 3 lety

    I would like to see the same test but with a receiver in the chain that is also HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision compatible like Yamaha or Devon. Technically it will just pass through the signal, but I wonder if it will do any adjustments.

  • @dwp1slyfox
    @dwp1slyfox Před 4 lety +8

    I would definitely like to see this test run when an oled that supports Dolby Vision and HDR10+ becomes available. It would be interesting to see if the differences in the levels of detail in dark regions of the images could/would be similar on an oled. Ideally you would be able to get two (or more) oled's with different processing capabilities, but that's not going to happen in 2020, unfortunately, as unless I'm mistaken Vizio will be the only oled manufacturer offering all the formats. Great test though.

  • @leecarroll1982
    @leecarroll1982 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’ve always preferred HDR over DV, overall all to me a brighter picture is a clearer picture

  • @CanalDojogames
    @CanalDojogames Před 3 lety

    My friend! I loved your comparison.
    I have two tvs to buy, one is philips 6674 or 6794 (67 comes with hue led installed on it) agains samsung 50q60t
    Philips has dolby vision
    Samsung has hdr 10+ if im not wrong. So which one you recommend me?
    I like much philips image equilibrium but when i saw samsung q60t on the last of us part 2 on youtube testers i got amazed by the details,processing of movement and depth between grasses. Love at first view you can say.
    But them which one you recommend me if we going to talk about hdr? Do you think its better choose an qled panel against the led ? Or hdr matter more here?
    Both menus and navigation are great but samsung comes with assistents from alexa,google and bixby.
    Im almost geting samsung but i arrived here.
    I know we dont have much dolby vision contents yet...its 5x dolby vision vs 12x hdr10
    Thank you

  • @WooDeWow
    @WooDeWow Před 5 měsíci

    What TVs are you using for this ? Is this like the Sony A95L Dolby vision VS Samsungs S95C HDR10+ ?

  • @garycambridge5513
    @garycambridge5513 Před rokem

    What’s the best for showing film grain though ? I’m torn between upgrading my Sony hdr 10 player to a Sony Dolby vision player ? I’m still not 100% 4K is better as I think 4k is too dark on a lot of movies I have

  • @ammaaressa
    @ammaaressa Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this video, but i noticed on some specs of LG TVs it says it supports HDR10 pro what is that?

  • @HQLondon23
    @HQLondon23 Před rokem

    I don't know much about tech. I bought a Bravia OLED and netflix has the dolby vision. It looks good but what is it? And the tv offers imax for some films too? Is this better than

  • @kenmoser82
    @kenmoser82 Před 4 lety

    Does the P Quantum X use a player led or set led Dolby Vision profile? There seems to be a significant difference in the application of that protocol. LG OLEDs utilize player led profiles while Sony uses a set led standard. It seems many prefer the player led application.

  • @marcus9x9
    @marcus9x9 Před 3 lety

    Hi, will the HDR highlights of an HDR content work if that content is sourced from the USB port as opposed to HDMI port?

  • @Andyyybeeeee
    @Andyyybeeeee Před 2 lety

    Question, I have just purchased a player that supports both, please tell me that in 2022 that that is possible and I haven't been roped in by amazon marketing ? Thanks ans great video

  • @suly3243
    @suly3243 Před 4 lety +2

    I would assume dolby vision(DV) is more suitable to oled than hdr10+ since it can benefit from the infinite contrast, where on lcds shadow detail will look more crushed and harder to handle since DV is more contrasty than HDR10+. And if that's the case then it makes sense that samsung didn't license dolby vision on its tv line up and only licensed HDR10+ imo.

  • @darthdank1993
    @darthdank1993 Před 4 lety

    If you have a hdr 10 disk can you get a close approximation to dolby vision by turning up the contrast? Based n how u describe it here? Interested in doing a test? On oled too?

  • @QuicksilverSG
    @QuicksilverSG Před 3 lety +9

    Both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision are based on the PQ gamma curve, which as is brilliantly exemplified by these movies, was designed for calibrated cinema viewing conditions (i.e. a dark room). The fundamental mismatch of PQ for consumer HDR viewing is its display-referenced absolute luminance scale, which forces mastering labs to pick a specific max brightness level (in nits) for the entire film. The PQ luminance scale ranges up to 10,000 nits, far beyond the capabilities of consumer TV's (typically up to 250 nits for SDR panels and anywhere from 500 to 1000 nits for HDR panels). HDR10+ films are commonly mastered at 1000 nits, while Dolby Vision can range up to 4000 nits (which NO consumer display can match). This creates aggravating compatibility issues with HDR panels which cannot produce such high levels of luminance, not to mention consumers' need to set their own preferred brightness level. This is why HDR10's static luminance metadata was not flexible enough and HDR10+ and Dolby Vision use dynamically-scaled metadata for each scene. IOW, they are both retrofitted metadata patches tweaked to fix a fundamental, self-inflicted flaw in the PQ HDR standard.
    By contrast, the HLG gamma curve uses scene-referred relative luminance levels, which automatically scale to match both display panel peak luminance and consumers' preferred brightness level. This is why HLG-mastered films need no additional metadata streams, in addition to being backward-compatible with legacy non-HDR displays (which are likewise scaled to relative luminance levels). These features make HLG-mastered videos far more consumer-friendly and adaptable to widely varying viewing conditions.

    • @SP95
      @SP95 Před 3 lety +1

      There is nearly no films mastered at at 4.000/10.000 nits because their own cinemas cant even use this brightness
      And when they do its on 3 pixels for 4 seconds (litterally) They even rarely use their P3 Color space. Even DolbyVision TV Shows are dimmed.
      On the other hand, HDR 10+ has been designed with TVs in mind which are way brighter than cinemas, hence getting the best out of our TVs.
      And its proven on this test once again, colorists have more freedom with HDR 10+.

    • @dolbylaboratories1158
      @dolbylaboratories1158 Před rokem

      @@SP95 Have you looked at the HDR10+ on a few TV's simultaneously along with a reference display ? I'll send you pictures if you haven't. The images are inconsistent because it is left to the individual TV's/screen's ability. Colorists care about how close and consistent the the end result looks on any screen(oled, led etc.) with the different levels/profiles of metadata that match and map to all the certified displays for color accuracy. That service and quality guarantee is what drives content adoption across platforms.

    • @dolbylaboratories1158
      @dolbylaboratories1158 Před rokem

      10-bit HLG or HDR HLG is not backwards compatible(no idea why the industry sent this confusing message). Try it on an old SDR TV and it'll black out. Some TV's that support 8-bit HLG play 10 bit HLG but the luminance and contrast are way off - scenes are too dark and skin tones look sun burnt.

  • @challasomesh2397
    @challasomesh2397 Před 3 lety +3

    Watching at 2160p HDR on my iPad , It’s amazing 🤩

  • @teme007
    @teme007 Před 4 lety

    Nice job. This helped a lot 👍.

  • @yogabyaakaash
    @yogabyaakaash Před rokem

    Would picture mode make a diff? FM mode on HDR would be less brighter than Cinema or Expert Bright. Which would be more accurate : DV for better contrast or HDR for more brightness?

  • @JuanDarwinAlvarezMaldonado
    @JuanDarwinAlvarezMaldonado Před měsícem

    Great video! I would only ask for a version with the hue lights off since I kinda feel like it affects my overall apreciation, also there's a chance it might changed the cameras setting if it was on auto (?)

  • @SwirlingDragonMist
    @SwirlingDragonMist Před 2 lety

    Nice work man! This is great!

  • @TheFunLuvnCRIMINAL
    @TheFunLuvnCRIMINAL Před 3 lety

    Could the artifacts be due to motion blur? Feels like dolby uses something similar to elmb which sacrifice nits to achieve reduce motion blur.

  • @heinzhugeanzein2015
    @heinzhugeanzein2015 Před 3 lety +2

    Well AND clear comparison.
    Although i prefer sound over the vission.

  • @mygreeneggsandham
    @mygreeneggsandham Před 2 lety +5

    The black crush on Dolby Vision would drive me nuts. What I would like to see is both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision settings calibrated optimally. If they were, it would be a more interesting comparison. I imagine the saturation and contrast on HDR10+ could be increased and on Dolby Vision I would like to see if the black crush and loss of detail could be mitigated.

    • @zr1129
      @zr1129 Před rokem +1

      I think Dolby Vision is more correct. The blacks being "crushed" is more a creative decision behind the editing of the movie. Everything looks a bit more washed out with HDR10+ so it's not like an improvement. If the creators of a film decide to do better HDR beforehand the end product with Dolby Vision looks amazing.

  • @TheChcam
    @TheChcam Před 3 lety +8

    didn't realize I was at 480p these samsung screens on their phones are truly amazing.

  • @davidtaylor3390
    @davidtaylor3390 Před 3 lety

    Question, what type of tv are using to do your comparison since some are Dolby vision and others are HDR10+? The Sony 820M2 only plays Dolby vision and not HDR10+. Panasonic is the only 4K blu ray player that plays both.

  • @brucelee5620
    @brucelee5620 Před 4 lety +7

    I read a minute ago they say the joker 4k Blu Ray is reference picture quality hope you can use the movie in the next comparisons/test of new TVs. Okay that's it 😓

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Před 4 lety +3

      I heard that too. I still have to go pick it up

  • @MichaelBeeny
    @MichaelBeeny Před 4 lety +3

    It's like the, which sound system is better? Dolby vs DTS. As you said, probably more the encoding and variations of the decoders. It's all getting a little silly when 95% of the public, cannot tell ANY difference or simply do not care. Price and size is what sells a TV for most people.

    • @512SolidSnake
      @512SolidSnake Před 3 lety

      Personally, I felt DTS sounded better than Dolby Digital back in the day.

  • @agericofunelas8195
    @agericofunelas8195 Před 4 lety +1

    Can I get dolby from soundbar without dolby. But TV(source) has dolby. Thanks!

  • @mgurmgur2
    @mgurmgur2 Před 3 lety +1

    An incredible video - instant subscribe!

  • @steeveabitbol2466
    @steeveabitbol2466 Před 3 lety

    I just picked up Lg OLED 77 gx series, and a blu ray player that doesnt have dolby vision but HDR+ should I get another player that has dolby vision?? I want the BEST possible picture??

  • @SteveMuller1976
    @SteveMuller1976 Před měsícem

    Just wondering if your TV'S are professionally calibrated? That would make a big difference as well

  • @billcrampton4476
    @billcrampton4476 Před rokem

    I’m not sure if settings are off on my Samsung but hdr10+ seems very dim not sure if I need to put contrast enhancer on high or adjust the gamma

  • @LK-yf1ov
    @LK-yf1ov Před 3 lety +1

    Hi VillaMan, can you please do comparision on Dolby Vision vs HDR10 using LG OLED vs Samsung Q90T or 80T by streaming or playing couple of movies or last series of Mandalorian on Disney+? Much appreciate.

  • @scottjung992
    @scottjung992 Před 2 lety

    Hi,
    I am in a market to upgrade my projection theater (Panasonic pt ae2000) and I came across with two products that caught my attention. Sony VPL-XW6000ES and TCL 98" Class XL Collection 4K UHD QLED. My viewing area (home library) is not dedicated dark room but does not have direct ambient light which made me leaned little towards to the TV for upgrade, however I do like to movie like atmosphere.
    Since they are in similar price range, my question is which has better pictures? Which HDR looks better since one supports dolby vision (TCR) and other only supports HDR (sony) w/its own HDR enhancer. If you can provide your expert opinion, I would really appreciate.
    Scott

  • @remcovanderslot5387
    @remcovanderslot5387 Před rokem

    I find the hdr10+ the most pleasing due to better brightness. But when you adjust this in dolby vision what is the result then?

  • @lucifergames4295
    @lucifergames4295 Před 3 lety

    Hello sir.. I have a question... Xbox is introducing Dolby vision to the gaming for the first time..and Dolby saying it will have 12 bit colors...will this be big gaming as compared to gaming consoles already having hdr support and how and what is the role 12 bit into the gaming industry

  • @princesharmaclass12com39

    Villaman i have questions for you which one is best HDR ,HDR plus, Dolby visions

  • @TheJustina102085
    @TheJustina102085 Před rokem +3

    It’s funny I’ve always preferred HDR10+ content even though everyone says Dolby Vision is superior. DV certainly has more content out there especially on Blu-ray. That being said, this video at least made me realize I wasn’t crazy.. haha I also have yet to understand why Dolby Vision has to be so dark at times. It crushes details and for me personally that’s important to me. If someone is wearing a black suit, I want to see the detail of the suit not just blackness.. The only way to get this is to crush the picture quality and colors, by using dynamic contrast on LG c2. It’s also unfortunate because Dolby Vision looks amazing in some scenes such as the outdoor scenes with brightness and scenery such as Forrests etc.
    Idk, maybe I’ve just become so spoiled these days with all our tech expectations, but I think DV has some work to do.. or they need a newer better HDR Codec… first world problems I know haha

  • @TidyGameplaya
    @TidyGameplaya Před 3 lety

    What ambient light are you using. I want one. Looks good.

  • @TheCrystalGlow
    @TheCrystalGlow Před 14 dny

    Question 4years later. What camera were you using here? It’s super clean. I’m wanting to buy one

  • @pmw350k
    @pmw350k Před 3 lety

    It was a fair test. Impossible to have completely matched sources, so no test can be perfect. It was a good idea to film it in HLG as you did.

  • @milango01
    @milango01 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you. Very nice comparison. Question. Does the TV setting allow us to choose Dolby vision or HDR10+ For a particular movie we watch if the respective original source is Dolby vision or HDR10+ and so on?
    Or does the TV have the capability to adjust itself automatically depending on the respective codec used in a movie? 😊
    Thank you

    • @markcampbell9584
      @markcampbell9584 Před rokem

      I have a sony bravia OLED and Panny UHD DVD player both support DV/HDR10+. if a disc has both the Panny selects DV first. To force HDR10+ you disable DV support checkbox in the Panny player settings, then HDR10+ is output.

  • @TheAbsorbant
    @TheAbsorbant Před 3 lety

    What I don't understand is how you obtained clips of the same movies in both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. Aren't movies usually exclusively released in one format or the other?

  • @Siniestro
    @Siniestro Před 3 lety

    good video but... bump your brightness to me watching it in HDR this video was darker that other HDR content (and for example to play/pause button was at full brightness so its not my settings) i don't know if i am the only one. (it doesn't happen for example on HDTVTest videos)

  • @trevormallery1966
    @trevormallery1966 Před 3 lety

    im thinking of getting a samsung tv, so thatll do hdr10+ but ive got a sony 4k spinner that only outputs dv. im getting worst of both worlds, should i be thinking of changing spinner or changing my planned tv?