Is Streaming as good as a 4K Blu ray disc? | Dolby Vision Comparison in 4K HDR!

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  • We see once and for all whether streaming a Dolby Vision movie is as good as watching it on 4K blu ray disc.
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  • @tHAvIlLaMaN
    @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +40

    2019 Sony X950G 4K HDR TV
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    • @michaelfoster3441
      @michaelfoster3441 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Yes i had an apple tv i have super fast internet and would get audio dips often same thing with nextflix .

    • @campkira
      @campkira Pƙed 4 lety

      No the blu ray not the best.. but internet connection is depend on external.....

    • @michaelfoster3441
      @michaelfoster3441 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@campkira its straight garbage

    • @JeremyCovington.
      @JeremyCovington. Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Have you tried downloading the video to a hard drive and then streaming it to the Apple TV? That is what I do with movies I buy from Apple.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Pƙed 4 lety

      Huge difference

  • @tomchapman128
    @tomchapman128 Pƙed 4 lety +328

    Finally, a video comparing HDR that is actually in HDR!

    • @roflcopter3625
      @roflcopter3625 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      are you stupid? the comparison is in dolby vision which is not supported by youtube which makes this video as every video of that kind disgusting clickbait betrayal of the common noobs.

    • @GoodKingMort
      @GoodKingMort Pƙed 3 lety +35

      @@roflcopter3625 You can reply to people without being rude, you do know that right?

    • @roflcopter3625
      @roflcopter3625 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @@GoodKingMort that's actually true. forgot that.

    • @GoodKingMort
      @GoodKingMort Pƙed 3 lety +13

      @@roflcopter3625 Thanks for your honesty 😉
      It's sometimes easy to forget that there are people behind the screen, reading what you write.

    • @diegogustavomonroysalazar6946
      @diegogustavomonroysalazar6946 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@roflcopter3625 I would not think is the same as those videos, is not dolby vision but a comparation without the basic HDR is still worse than one that has it

  • @blackridgeproductions2738
    @blackridgeproductions2738 Pƙed 3 lety +135

    I’ve always been a fan of buying the Blu-ray Discs vs streaming. I know I’m guaranteed full quality while it’s playing. I’m always worried that my internet might lag and drop quality while streaming and I want it to be constant at all times. Also I enjoy having a physical library of films.

    • @nicotipro2
      @nicotipro2 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      i totally agree ,tho i gotta admit streamed video are much much better than they used to be and still pretty fuckin watchable ,but a local playback with a physical disk is unbeatable hahaha the crispness of the picture and unparalleled sound on home theater ,truly perfect!

    • @sumedhvats1395
      @sumedhvats1395 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      That's why i pirate even having a Netflix acc

    • @shivajithakur7735
      @shivajithakur7735 Pƙed 2 lety

      agree

    • @geraldlawson1011
      @geraldlawson1011 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I agree wholeheartedly but I’m getting older and I decided at my age to stop purchasing DVDs and steam my movies. No need of having a bunch of hard copies for my love ones to toss in the trash once I have transitioned.

    • @blue4059
      @blue4059 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Not anymore for Disney's IMAX movies, the proprietary "expanded" scenes are only available on streaming. Also Dolby Vision is exclusive to streaming services for some films.

  • @ferrari77773
    @ferrari77773 Pƙed 4 lety +742

    Audio is always superior on Blu-ray.

    • @alexf8148
      @alexf8148 Pƙed 4 lety +45

      Superior but many can't tell unless you do a side by side comparison

    • @Cux1970
      @Cux1970 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Ferrari, So true

    • @Mat-hr1dg
      @Mat-hr1dg Pƙed 3 lety +89

      @@alexf8148
      If you have a home theater system it's easy to notice the difference.

    • @alexf8148
      @alexf8148 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      @@Mat-hr1dg not if you don't use anything else besides home theatre lmao

    • @josecuervo8487
      @josecuervo8487 Pƙed 3 lety +15

      Yup. That's the reason i stick to physical media.

  • @jayjustgames1725
    @jayjustgames1725 Pƙed 4 lety +358

    Physical disc all the way for me. Stream for only shows on networks that aren't on disc.

    • @jonathanoxlade4252
      @jonathanoxlade4252 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Physical disk or downloaded onto a solid state drive yea your right I rather download movies like this onto a drive

    • @panthertrain1984
      @panthertrain1984 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      I agree 100, it just seems like 4k blu ray is a dying format and all of us technophiles will have no choice but to go streaming unfortunately

    • @sixfeetunder0105
      @sixfeetunder0105 Pƙed 4 lety

      panthertrain1984 no you wont stop crying

    • @SonGoku544
      @SonGoku544 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      The prices of 4k disks are ridiculous though. Streaming ftw

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Pƙed 4 lety

      HipToupee Not dead yet

  • @Zoranurai13
    @Zoranurai13 Pƙed 4 lety +341

    I absolutely hate compression of shadows and highlights tho. Those blocks that form in the dark are highly distracting

    • @MrStatusqwo5
      @MrStatusqwo5 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      Yeah that's the warst part blockiness and posterization in dark parts as well posterization in bright even colours đŸ€ąđŸ€ź

    • @pioneer2321
      @pioneer2321 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Mario Borojevic current 4K oled are the king for macro blocking and near black uniformity and banding.

    • @pioneer2321
      @pioneer2321 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Ger - all oleds suffer from near black macro blocking, banding and are very prone to artefacts near black. yes they have got better but most just crush black so detail is lost and the artefacts are hidden.

    • @pioneer2321
      @pioneer2321 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Ger - sorry no lcd for me. Just oled. And a last gen plasma.

    • @TheJnkh
      @TheJnkh Pƙed 4 lety +2

      its not good to be that spoiled

  • @David25522
    @David25522 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Great topic plus great video!
    The sound quality on physical media sounds much better to me.
    Just subscribed!!!

  • @peterotremba8980
    @peterotremba8980 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    This is the exact video I was looking for! Thank you so much!

  • @evanhlavaty
    @evanhlavaty Pƙed 3 lety +6

    You’re videos are great and the fact they are HDR as well is awesome, keep it up!

  • @nintendoconvert4045
    @nintendoconvert4045 Pƙed 4 lety +30

    Love the subtle Street Fighter “Perfect!” in the intro. 0:31

  • @keithkraegel5080
    @keithkraegel5080 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Great video Villaman, I love your channel! And I love the fact that you record in 4k HDR. Nice touch bro. Keep it up.

  • @joeparkhurst57
    @joeparkhurst57 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    I subbed. I have had this question myself for about a year, but I never bothered to test it out. I actually put my Sony 4K Blu Ray player away but I'm pulling it out after watching your video. There is night and day difference. Watching on the disc is 15% to 20% better than streaming. The image is clean, and has the contrast necessary to really showcase Dolbyvision. I've got the LG OLED C9 series and this weekend I will be sourcing a place to get Blu Ray videos on the cheap!

  • @TheBluuHouse
    @TheBluuHouse Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Great video!!!!! Great topic. I'm old school in the sense of wanting the best quality available. Both platforms have their advantage. But I'd rather get the best out of the 4k disc knowing my AVR is running 96/192KHz sample rate and my speakers are tuned to get as much detail as possible. 🙂

  • @denisebunch812
    @denisebunch812 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Appreciate your channel & your unbiased review. I preferred iTunes streaming 4K until I started using up my Xfinity monthly data limit of 1.2 TB on a regular basis.

  • @prezidenttrump5171
    @prezidenttrump5171 Pƙed 4 lety

    I've been jumping from video to video looking for a good one on comparisons. I found yours that is actually in HDR, not standard like a lot of uploaders. I appreciate your extra effort and it's looking good!

  • @dwp1slyfox
    @dwp1slyfox Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I find that many videos I search for on youtube certain names keep popping up....villaman is one of them. After this happens a few times, I get the hint. Subbed. Good work.

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety

      Haha is that right? Well that’s awesome to hear. Welcome aboard!

  • @vyasamaharshi
    @vyasamaharshi Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Quality analysis man, keep up! You deserve more subscribers

  • @JoeyGlover
    @JoeyGlover Pƙed 4 lety +41

    Great video, top work. brilliant production value. subbed. I'm off to check out your other stuff. Here's an idea for a video. 4K streaming from Apple/Amazon/Netflix compared. Is it the service or the device that streams it that has the last word in quality.

    • @eredthemaster
      @eredthemaster Pƙed 3 lety +5

      That’s the thing. Apple supports up to 50 Mbps, While Netflix right now with corona supports up to 16 Mbps(this is not even the regular 1080P bandwidth), Amazon tops out at 20Mbps and Disney at 30 Mbps. All four not even close to an blu ray which can top out at 128Mbps(but in most cases is 90-110 Mbps).
      So comparing it to the best 4K streaming service might not have been so fair. Because if you are buying, you should get it physical. If you are streaming. You are most likely using Netflix/Amazon.

    • @blackyraypatrick9041
      @blackyraypatrick9041 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      I'm always looking for such a side by side comparison but nobody does like to make one :/

    • @elliemap9319
      @elliemap9319 Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

      I’m going to tell you this as a person that knows the answer Apple wins hands down beautiful after a year of buying movies on apple and Amazon Apple wins not even close please save your money buy Apple Store movies I’ve wasted so much money on Amazon

  • @jakl10
    @jakl10 Pƙed 4 lety +92

    I see Alita as thumbnail, I click; very easy

  • @RuanLFC
    @RuanLFC Pƙed 2 lety

    How is this channel not got more subs like wtf quality of the vid is insane good job :)

  • @alexvaldez83
    @alexvaldez83 Pƙed 4 lety +19

    Physical media > streaming

  • @joserej8827
    @joserej8827 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    I think it depends on the situation: A) Quality. We should buy just the 4k discs we like the most or the ones we know we are going to take advantage of quality of a disc over streaming.
    so we have the best of both worlds depending on what need in a specific situation

  • @rhetthathaway1593
    @rhetthathaway1593 Pƙed 3 lety

    Wow! You presented this very well!! Been looking for a techtuber to follow!

  • @coopher1978
    @coopher1978 Pƙed rokem

    Dude this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I would have been curious to learn about the type of file being put on the disk compared to the file being uploaded on streaming platforms.
    Subscribed!

  • @MrKenn1230
    @MrKenn1230 Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Another great video, VMan! You were right- There weren't many differences in the PQ between streaming and the disc based PQ. The streaming algorithms are definitely getting better but there is still (technically) a big difference between video streaming bitrates vs disc playback bitrates. I wonder if the differences are more easily identifiable with very large screen sizes where any dithering or smoothing from streaming would be more apparent? I also definitely agree with your final comments of the sound quality difference- compressed streaming Dolby Atmos and lossless Dolby Atmos playback from discs can sonically be very different. Another concern I have between streaming and discs is licensing. You physically own the disc but with streaming, you're purchased a license for the usage of that video file. If the manufacturer (or Apple) decides to stop carrying that movie (or that version of a movie) you're out of luck. It has happened to me!

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Thanks! That’s a very good point about ownership. That’s definitely something people don’t often think about when buying online.

    • @redrock425
      @redrock425 Pƙed 2 lety

      Sound is usually a big difference.

  • @YTZack408
    @YTZack408 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    It would be interesting to compare classic films in 4k. I wonder if the difference between the two versions would be less noticeable than with a new movie.

  • @BRIANSTECHTHERAPY
    @BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Pƙed 4 lety

    Great vid! Nice job bro!

  • @santydolby
    @santydolby Pƙed 4 lety +23

    factoring in all the youtube-induced compression, this was a near-perfect way to compare and contrast. a damn good job!

  • @BenjiGator23
    @BenjiGator23 Pƙed 4 lety +25

    I have a very hard time seeing any visual difference between 4K HDR streaming vs 4K Blu-Ray unless I’m pixel peeping. Even then, the difference is negligible. Where I do see a HUGE difference between streaming and blu-ray is in the audio. Listening to the dynamics of a lossless blu-ray soundtrack is noticeably better than its streaming counterpart. That’s where I see the real difference, in the audio rather than the visual

  • @nsbancroft
    @nsbancroft Pƙed 3 lety +24

    Thanks for this review. This has helped me know that streaming 4k is good enough for me. The difference is negligible and the convenience of AppleTV is worth that price.

    • @caioviniciussilveira7426
      @caioviniciussilveira7426 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Be aware that this is a highly compressed CZcams video... when you're in the room, streaming is waaaay worse

    • @CaBdosdos
      @CaBdosdos Pƙed 11 dny

      ​@@caioviniciussilveira7426 you are correct. When i played Lawrence of Arabia and compared it to the 4k stream that was final. The colors and definition all around was so much more crisp. The audio made me say wow when gun fire went off i never heard that with streaming audio.

  • @eternalbeing3339
    @eternalbeing3339 Pƙed 4 lety

    Good comparison man! Subscribed!

  • @christophercharles3426
    @christophercharles3426 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Subscribed my man... physical discs all day long.. bit of streaming in the house in my den though no sky etc.. purely for movies.. was the same when I had my pioneer krp in there now the Panasonic oled even more into discs with 4khdr.. great channel by the way..

  • @TheFellCloud
    @TheFellCloud Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Like many people in the comments, I have to agree that audio on physical discs is much better. Plus in my experience, streaming can come with the odd missing frame here and there or sudden compression and that might have more to do with my connection but I'd rather avoid experiencing that altogether. Also owning a physical copy of a film gives you "psychological ownership" which you don't get by streaming. I find it satisfying to have my favourite movies on my shelf. Great video! Thanks

  • @shedrickjohnson789
    @shedrickjohnson789 Pƙed 4 lety +94

    I prefer the disc i think it's way better than streaming.

    • @michaelangst6078
      @michaelangst6078 Pƙed 4 lety +18

      @ A moron like yourself wouldn't be able to tell the difference

    • @SonGoku544
      @SonGoku544 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      The high price of the discs is not worth it all

    • @Dreyz-pg2zz
      @Dreyz-pg2zz Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@SonGoku544 what do you mean blu Ray's are usually cheaper and plus I lik to own my movies

    • @SonGoku544
      @SonGoku544 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@Dreyz-pg2zz are you high? a 4k blu ray Disc is expensive as hell.. like paying for 3 Month of Netflix, where you can watch like a thousand of 4k Material for 10 bucks a month

    • @Dreyz-pg2zz
      @Dreyz-pg2zz Pƙed 4 lety

      @@SonGoku544 I was talking about regular blu Ray's which can go for like a dollar

  • @tripas421
    @tripas421 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Wow everything looks brighter and better on the disc :o thanks for the video!

  • @ccchhhrrriiisss100
    @ccchhhrrriiisss100 Pƙed 3 lety

    Wow -- this was very helpful!!! Thank you!

  • @djlowtek
    @djlowtek Pƙed 4 lety +21

    After doing comparison on 150Mbps isp and fully ethernet lan - I can ABSOLUTELY say without a doubt: disc is superior.

    • @JoseRodriguezFrio
      @JoseRodriguezFrio Pƙed 3 lety

      whet

    • @Lead_Foot
      @Lead_Foot Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Doesn't really matter how fast your isp is, streaming video services don't exceed 20mbps bitrate.

    • @JoseRodriguezFrio
      @JoseRodriguezFrio Pƙed 3 lety

      @@Lead_Foot says who

    • @DeadManInBlack
      @DeadManInBlack Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Well streaming services themselves also are known for capping it at the moment especially in europe during all the lockdowns

    • @JoseRodriguezFrio
      @JoseRodriguezFrio Pƙed 3 lety

      @@DeadManInBlack true

  • @Downhuman74
    @Downhuman74 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Dude, I love your approach to split-screen with the change in color on you LED lights. Instant subscribe.
    But on the subject of streaming vs. disc, the day when streaming overtakes discs is already here - kind of. The IMAX-enhanced Marvel titles on Disney+ easily outpace their UHD Blu-ray counterparts in terms of HDR implementation and available screen information (HDTVTest just posted a comparison). And that's not to say they couldn't have done this on the disc as well. But they chose to put the superior presentation up on their streaming service to drive subscriptions -- which is a smart move on their part. Still, I will continue to buy discs as long as they're available as I prefer to actually own my media. And for that reason I'll continue to buy them even when streaming eventually does become truly superior to discs.

  • @UnnDunn
    @UnnDunn Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Subscribed simply because you're the first CZcamsr I've seen who actually uses HDR in your videos talking about HDR. Too many TV reviewers will tell us how amazing the HDR is, but won't let us see it because they use SDR.

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety

      Thanks and welcome aboard! It can be a challenge creating HDR videos, but it’s certainly worth it

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 Pƙed 4 lety

      yess he is the first man i saw who shots HDR. its even coming in yuhtube quality.

  • @sajithtg
    @sajithtg Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Very useful review - thank you. How would you compare the streaming quality between Apple TV 4K and Fire TV cube 2022 model ?

  • @stephantranquille6681
    @stephantranquille6681 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    i Believe the streamed image appears to be smoother. In some cases there is a quite a loss of detail. It is even more apparent when streaming in 4k and a 4k disc.
    Blu Ray and 4k discs anyday over streaming hence my collection of +850 discs.

  • @DoctorHades
    @DoctorHades Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Compression artifacts and colour banding are the things that annoy me the most about streaming, usually when the content drops from 4K or 1080p to 720p or 480p as a result of network interference (which happens even though I have a reliable 420 Mbps down and 35 Mbps fibre direct-into-the-home connection, so no copper wiring at all). Discs at least offer guaranteed consistent playback and image quality plus far better audio quality and bonus extras, which I like to watch. I only stream stuff I don’t own or cannot get on disc.

  • @markwelch7125
    @markwelch7125 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great content keep it coming

  • @logan13231
    @logan13231 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you for doing this. This is exactly what I needed. I just bought a PS5 and only one they had was the disc version. Thought maybe I would keep it because I heard 4k blu rays would be better but I don't really see much of a difference to justify the extra $100. Really liked the comparison videos.

  • @asadianbelifont3875
    @asadianbelifont3875 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I absolutely notice the muddiness of the streaming in comparison to the BR Disk. It's not extremely prominent but in things like trees it is obvious

  • @bludhound73
    @bludhound73 Pƙed 4 lety +12

    If I am going to spend that much on a TV and sound system, I want the best source feeding them. Streaming will get better as codecs improve.

  • @Quetzalcoatl0
    @Quetzalcoatl0 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great video!, This is a type of content i'm after.!

  • @mgiebus1869
    @mgiebus1869 Pƙed rokem

    Really appreciate this video as I'm getting back into physical media. The differences are negligible for me but I like having something tangible.

  • @Lewis360
    @Lewis360 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Just one small correction, Blu-ray is still compressed, to a way lesser extent than streaming but still compressed, for storage and bandwidth limitations. Great video and editing nonetheless, here's a well deserved "like"!!

    • @moShineAnimation
      @moShineAnimation Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Even theatrical screenings are compressed to a lesser degree.

    • @MrStatusqwo5
      @MrStatusqwo5 Pƙed 4 lety

      Of course all 4K blue ray's are croma subsampled 4:2:0 and lose the information below 16 black
      One thing is that with blue rays you get white above white all the way till 250, and with streaming only 16-235.

  • @anthonyortiz4254
    @anthonyortiz4254 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    I'm basically a hard core physical 4k media buff on my Pioneer LX-500. Compression is compression, so you lose something. However, Vudu 4k streaming has surprised me as of late, I just turn up the sharpness for a clearer image.

  • @Nandao_Vs
    @Nandao_Vs Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Oh man, what such explanation! I have a question... In your opinion there is any difference about quality resolution between watching movies UHD in Apple Tv 4K, Xbox one S and Smart tv apps (4K of course) or in the end its all the same thing? Because budget is a really matter issues.

  • @frediusmaximus1
    @frediusmaximus1 Pƙed 4 lety

    Great comparison video. Now on to making some decisions on which UHD Blu-ray player to get. Where did you get your Old Skool hand holding NES controller t-shirt?

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Thanks!
      The T-shirt is from the merch store teespring.com/stores/villaman-store

  • @davidtorres7838
    @davidtorres7838 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Thank you bud. I've been waiting a lo g time for a streaming vs 4k blu ray comparison. Personally I always buy the 4k disk since you get the streaming code anyways. The 4k always blows streaming out of the water especially with sound on atmos soundtracks. What bothers me is that not a whole lot of 4k disks have Dolby Vision.

    • @pecke86
      @pecke86 Pƙed 2 lety

      Finally somebody says that ! the sound is just terrible on Netflix compared to blueray, right ? I want to see this properly compared

  • @Raiderblack
    @Raiderblack Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Thanks I've been struggling with the decision to get a uhd player... So it's back to yes again...haha

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Haha glad I could help!

    • @NorthlandDWJ
      @NorthlandDWJ Pƙed 3 lety

      @@tHAvIlLaMaN The problem with this video though is that CZcams compresses everything. So its hard to tell the differences unless we actually test it ourselves. I notice most of the detail gets lost in shadows and dark scenes in the blacks where you can see the block shapes. Thanks though.

  • @hi-fihaven2257
    @hi-fihaven2257 Pƙed 4 lety

    Great work on the comparison video. This one is really great for me, because I have an Apple TV 4k, and the same Sony UHD player. I also have all of the movies that you used for the comparison. I have experienced a negligible difference in picture streaming vs. disc. The main difference I have experienced is with the dynamics of the soundtracks. The discs winning that battle. One of the advantages that I have with streaming is some 4k movies are a lot less expensive than their counterparts on disc. Their have been some movies that I have picked on streaming for 14.99-19.99, that I am really glad that I did not pay 29.99 to 34.99 on disc! I have 501 4k movies in my 4k and HDR section on my Apple TV 4k. @ 360 4k movies on Vudu that I watch via my Roku Ultra. 325 4k movies on disc. Thanks for another great video!

  • @KevinBritain
    @KevinBritain Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Awesome stuff man.. what’s your thoughts on the Xbox one s or x (only blu ray playback) vs something like the Sony or Panasonic players?

  • @irmadisimone2963
    @irmadisimone2963 Pƙed 4 lety +9

    the convenience of streaming takes the cake for me well and the cost as well

  • @nacthenud
    @nacthenud Pƙed 4 lety +8

    Blu rays are not an uncompressed source, they just use less compression and have a higher bitrate.

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Of course it’s not. The size of the clips for only this video alone is over 100GB. I meant it was the reference and the streaming version is compressed even further. Thanks for pointing that out for those unaware tho

  • @FariD-hf9ed
    @FariD-hf9ed Pƙed 4 lety +2

    great video as always man but when you are showing us gaming on the 950G ?

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Very soon. Already filmed but needs editing

  • @lordw9609
    @lordw9609 Pƙed 3 lety

    Finally! This is the comparison we needed

  • @mikej6565
    @mikej6565 Pƙed 4 lety +14

    EVERYTHING is more obvious on a high-end large projection setup! The Panasonic UB820 4K disc player is phenomenal for more reasons that I can list...

    • @bearlycamping
      @bearlycamping Pƙed 3 lety

      What pj do you have? I have the Epson 6050 that only does hdr10 which I'm struggling to decide getting a dedicated bp instead of just using my ps5..

    • @mikej6565
      @mikej6565 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@bearlycamping I have a JVC w/anamorphic lens, and an acoustically transparent screen in a built-out theater. It's a great room, but I'd recommend a TV for PS5. There are just so many good choices. Sony has a 100" 900 series coming out this year that might be an epic choice. Also the new generation of OLEDs are getting better as well. Either way, a projector cannot do Dolby Vision and JVC's are the only projector that does exceptional HDR out of the box for ALL content (due to the onboard dynamic tone-mapping).

    • @bearlycamping
      @bearlycamping Pƙed 3 lety

      Actually I use my Epson for HDR gaming on a 135" screen on a 5.1.4 audio set-up and is phenomenal. Was just curious to see if it's worth picking up the standalone player for movies

    • @mikej6565
      @mikej6565 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@bearlycamping The UB820, UB420 and UB9000 are going to help tremendously with 4K disc HDR. Probably the best bang/buck you can make with your setup.

    • @bearlycamping
      @bearlycamping Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@mikej6565 Well I guess that settles it. Thanks 👍

  • @cheesysped
    @cheesysped Pƙed 4 lety +30

    The problem with this video is we're watching it via a highly compressed youtube video...so we're not going to be able to tell the difference. While physical media is a guarantee you're getting the best source, I do think people harp on about too much to justify their costly collections. You hear terms like "the difference is night and day" as if we're talking about a VHS vs a 4K Blu-Ray. The difference is a lot slimmer than it's made out to be, and it also depends on what the source is.
    Eg. An animated film presented with a 2.35:1 ratio is going to require a hell of a lot less bitrate than a 16:9 heavily grained film, such as Saving Private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan not only would have a more complex image requiring a higher bitrate to capture the grain, it also has about 25% more area to store with it's 1.85:1 aspect ratio, over a 2.35:1 film. So, I think the blanket statement that Blu-Ray is a million times better from most home theater enthusiasts is silly.

    • @MrStatusqwo5
      @MrStatusqwo5 Pƙed 4 lety

      Whait what are you saying that grain is information like part of the picture and not side product???
      I also think private Ryan is 2.35:1đŸ€”

    • @cheesysped
      @cheesysped Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@MrStatusqwo5 grain is part of the source, and the codec has to replicate the source. Heavy grain reduces the efficiency. If someone is filmed with a static white wall behind them, a clean digital capture would be able to be stored at a lower bitrate than the same video captured with heavy grain, because all that grain is detail that has to be displayed. The grain changes every frame, so inter-frame compression is not as efficient.

    • @markoliimatainen2565
      @markoliimatainen2565 Pƙed 4 lety

      4k 60fps youtube video crushes uhd bluray quality every single time. 24 frames is way too little for 4k resolution. Even slight movement in camera makes video lose its details at 4k what makes it distracting to watch. Thats why uhd bluray format is doomed to fail moment they created it.

    • @markoliimatainen2565
      @markoliimatainen2565 Pƙed 4 lety

      @Zombobo Smith It does make sense. As it has more details, it means motion blur will destroy all its details even in slow movements. 24 frames per second is barely accetable on full hd, but even then during faster scenes, you will lose details. Normal hd or in vhs quality 24 fps didnt matter much as there was no any fine details.

    • @marcfavell
      @marcfavell Pƙed 4 lety

      @@markoliimatainen2565 24p/24 FPS is a motion picture standard in pretty much evey movie except The Hobbit at the theater 120FPS at like 8 places and Billy Lynn Long Halftime Walk I believe is the only 4K HDR UHD Bluray at 60FPS you can get but originally at select theaters you could see in 120FPS at one of like 8 theaters worldwide

  • @theparkerstudio
    @theparkerstudio Pƙed 4 lety

    Great video and presentation -- subscribed.

  • @charlesm.9858
    @charlesm.9858 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Love the shirts!!! I was just wondering as I was watching this Video, “where does he get those shirts!!??”

  • @furivs
    @furivs Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Hi! Very nice review! I have a question : is there any difference in picture quality when you watch the same 4k movie via a 4K blu-ray disc player and via external hard drive connected to your tv?

    • @jwallace7230
      @jwallace7230 Pƙed 3 lety

      I know its an old comment but it Depends on how you got that 4k movie onto the hard drive and what compression was involved.

    • @MOHELS-rw1bz
      @MOHELS-rw1bz Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      ​@@jwallace7230 ​ I ask the same question no any compress i am used make MKV to but the film on the external hard it is supposed to be lossless audio and video quality is that true?

  • @TDamsma
    @TDamsma Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Awesome upload! I really don't see that much difference in regard to image quality, but where I always experience the differences between streaming and Blu-ray is the quality of the audio. If a movie is recorded in for example DTS HD Master then the difference is rather huge in comparison to something like Dolby Digital +, which Netflix uses. This is where physical media really shines, to my opinion and others..

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @rahb2096
      @rahb2096 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      easy solution apple tv has dolby atmos. nvidia shield does as well.

    • @rahb2096
      @rahb2096 Pƙed 4 lety

      @F a imo the difference is very hard to notice and its more of a fluid picture then comparing image to image.

  • @mazensmz
    @mazensmz Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Excellent video, the difference doesn't worth buying and waiting for the BR to arrive and also backing up 50GB.
    But, what about streaming from other providers?
    And What about the Audio format?

  • @Metaris
    @Metaris Pƙed 3 lety

    Great comparison. Thanks for doing this.

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 Pƙed 4 lety +29

    But the issue is Sony tvs dont use a Dolby vision chip it's done other relays and even allows apps to process the Dolby vision themselves not a good way to get Dolby vision this is why lg and Panasonic look so so much better in Dolby vision

    • @fadetoblack.-
      @fadetoblack.- Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Good observation I was getting ready to ask him if that was my old and 950g that he was doing the test on.

    • @reviewforthetube6485
      @reviewforthetube6485 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@fadetoblack.- yeah this is why he doesnt see much of a difference between the applications but I will say streaming Dolby vision has gotten alot better but that's because Dolby themselves of course have influence on it as they have to

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +8

      It’s funny you say that because I originally filmed this using the C9, but it had some weird motion issue with the Blu Ray, so I scrapped it. The results were the same tho

    • @fadetoblack.-
      @fadetoblack.- Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@tHAvIlLaMaN I have the same issues with my C9 as well. And my Sony player because Sony has a different implementation how they do Dolby vision. That's why I'm getting rid of my Sony player and getting a LG player. Or I'm going with a Panasonic player if I get up the extra money. Plus the whole turning the Dolby Vision on and then turning the Dolby Vision off switch is a serious turn off in Sony's players.

    • @reviewforthetube6485
      @reviewforthetube6485 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@tHAvIlLaMaN it's not the c9 it's the Sony player that's doing it lol

  • @YEAHMAP
    @YEAHMAP Pƙed 3 lety +33

    very good video! Keep it up

    • @daniel_960_
      @daniel_960_ Pƙed 3 lety

      Why do I find you all over youtube 😄

  • @mgaming7
    @mgaming7 Pƙed 3 lety

    love your videos. i always wanted to know the answer to this very question

  • @ONE_OF_300
    @ONE_OF_300 Pƙed 3 lety

    Great review and thanks for confirming my thoughts as well. If you value higher quality video and audio, then disc is the way to go.

  • @nickxcore74
    @nickxcore74 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    I’m still old skool and prefer using my Sony 4K Blu Ray player. That Sony X950G panel suffers from really bad blooming, I’ve seen it in the flesh.

  • @Double7__
    @Double7__ Pƙed 4 lety +26

    Physical disc all the way! Streaming can never touch the crispness, depth and clarity of physical media, especially if you own a great 4k player like the ub820 with its amazing hdr optimizer capabilities.

    • @debrabander6892
      @debrabander6892 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Physical?

    • @aardvarkansaw
      @aardvarkansaw Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@debrabander6892 diskette as opposed to a data stream.

    • @FastEddie86
      @FastEddie86 Pƙed 3 lety

      What settings do you have optimized?

    • @TheDethring
      @TheDethring Pƙed 2 lety

      Agreed. USB works just as well especially with REMUX versions. The highest GB and closest to authentic u can get

  • @wildeman32
    @wildeman32 Pƙed 4 lety

    Great video as usual!

  • @Espedals
    @Espedals Pƙed 3 lety

    Excellent comparison, just what I was looking for.

  • @TA_Tech
    @TA_Tech Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Something weird is happening with this video. Every time I open it, my phone brightness would go to maximum. No other video does that I checked.

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +8

      It’s because it’s in HDR. This is how videos were meant to be on your phone haha

    • @alexf8148
      @alexf8148 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@tHAvIlLaMaN HDR explains why it's not showing up on my non HDR monitor. no picture at all even reloading

  • @jdmsz9378
    @jdmsz9378 Pƙed 4 lety +9

    You should invest on the panasonic ub820. Blows sony blu rays processing out the water. But I think sony tvs are the best in terms of picture quality and upscaling

    • @artfartzy
      @artfartzy Pƙed 4 lety +1

      How about Oppo ?

    • @jdmsz9378
      @jdmsz9378 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@artfartzy oppo is overpriced now since the company closed down. Not worth it. Besides reviewers said the ub820 and ub9000 has the edge over picture quality with hdr10+

    • @aardvarkansaw
      @aardvarkansaw Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@artfartzy Panasonic 820 is said to be better than any OPPO.

    • @artfartzy
      @artfartzy Pƙed 4 lety

      @@aardvarkansaw Okay

  • @Comp625
    @Comp625 Pƙed 3 lety

    I only just stumbled on your video but +1 for doing the comparison. IMO, the findings still hold true as of Jan 2021.
    - Visually, streaming and disc can be comparable as long as you're using a high bitrate service (iTunes and MoviesAnywhere).
    - Other streaming services like VUDU and Netflix use *far lower* bitrates resulting in more artifacts with even lesser detail.
    - Streaming audio remains lacking due to heavy compression but likely not discernable by the casual listener (especially if they're using TV speakers or a soundbar).
    - There's extra audio "clarity" that AV enthusiasts can pick out when listening to the Disc version.
    VillaMan, if you haven't already, I'm curious for your thoughts on comparing a movie that has DV via streaming, but only HDR10 on disc. Star Wars: Rogue One and The Dark Knight Trilogy come to mind.

  • @mystickid1
    @mystickid1 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Fantastic analysis!
    By the way, what do you do for a living?

  • @madhousenetwork
    @madhousenetwork Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Blu-ray for my favourite films always!

  • @DELTABOY04
    @DELTABOY04 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    I knew A was streaming right away lol

  • @cusodha1
    @cusodha1 Pƙed 2 lety

    You worked really hard to make this video 👏

  • @alexf8148
    @alexf8148 Pƙed 4 lety

    Whether if one can tell between two, depends on 1) how much detail the viewer can tell, 2) how it was compressed (compression 264 or 265 hevc), 3) source they use to compress, 4) what display you're using (4k bigger screen shows more), 5) how close you sit to the tv screen (closer shows more detail).
    I have a 2k tv so if the 2k is compressed using 265 hevc, it'll be really hard to tell from original unless you compare them side by side in dark scenes.

  • @JL-nb1yc
    @JL-nb1yc Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I'm amazed at how good the streaming quality is.

    • @zZiL341yRj736
      @zZiL341yRj736 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      It's not tho, a 4K streaming video is compressed to 15Mbps, a 1080p Bluray is 40Mbps.

    • @crowntotheundergroud
      @crowntotheundergroud Pƙed 3 lety

      @@zZiL341yRj736 but hdmi 2.0 is what 18gbps? Are there 4k blu ray players w hmdi 2.1 and does that make a difference?

    • @zZiL341yRj736
      @zZiL341yRj736 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@crowntotheundergroud 18Gbps is enough for 4K videos because movies are 24fps. The only reason you need HDMI 2.1 is for a current gen console which can output 4K 60Hz/120Hz, Full RGB and HDR.

  • @caesarc.4079
    @caesarc.4079 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Awesome video. I do really prefer disc over streaming since there’s always compression in video and sound. Kudos for you

  • @superboy305
    @superboy305 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Peaked my interest đŸ‘đŸŸ, I starting asking this question a while back.

  • @The_JL_Podcast
    @The_JL_Podcast Pƙed 4 lety

    Please help.... My LG Nano 9 and Onkyo receiver have one Optical Audio. If I get a 4k/HDR/UHD player will I lose the high quality audio if I only use a HDMI to connect player to TV?

  • @grinsk3ks
    @grinsk3ks Pƙed 4 lety +14

    The difference is pretty big imo. The streaming source is muddy, unsharp and has a lot of blocks in dark areas.

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw Pƙed 3 lety +1

      You need better internet.

    • @cenktheangel
      @cenktheangel Pƙed 3 lety +1

      There is no difference at all in terms of picture quality.I have an LG OLED B7 ,7.1 Atmos system,XBP 700 Sony UHD BP and recently got an Apple TV 4K. After made some side by side comparison i was shocked by the results. The difference between them ranges from extremely subtle to zero from 15cm. From a normal view distance,zero.Believe me I am a good video and audiophile.

    • @IGOBYTHENAMELOVE
      @IGOBYTHENAMELOVE Pƙed 3 lety

      @@cenktheangel well maybe your not as good as you think

    • @cenktheangel
      @cenktheangel Pƙed 3 lety

      @@IGOBYTHENAMELOVE yes I am.

  • @williambrown1172
    @williambrown1172 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Physical media always... for quality, as well as, protection of the material. Streaming is ones and zeros. How many times have studios been revisionist of their material... if you own a digital copy you have what they want you to have, not necessarily what you bought at the time of release Don't get me wrong, I redeem all my digital copies but they are my second copy.

  • @logesh07
    @logesh07 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thanks for the video.
    I have a question about how to get the Dolby Vision support in my 4K smart TV. I have a 4k UHD smart TV that supports only HDR but No Dolby Vision as per the specification.. In this case If I buy a Chromecast 2020 Model (supports DV and DA) will I be able to watch the Netflix Dolby Vision content on my 4K TV?

  • @JtotheRizzo
    @JtotheRizzo Pƙed 3 lety

    Great video content! Man, if people are nitpicking about the quality of their steaming 4K vids, they got some serious issues.

  • @ajharris1984
    @ajharris1984 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    The quality ain't far off. Dolby vision looks amazing on an LG OLED through apps like vudu and Netflix. The convenience of clicking on a movie and buying it and getting all the latest video and sound formats is đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„. No need to buy another piece of hardware

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      You aren't buying a darn thing. Purchasing a streaming file is only leasing. You own NOTHING!

    • @ajharris1984
      @ajharris1984 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      These streaming services aren't going anywhere. Vudu isn't going anywhere Netflix isn't going anywhere. Most ppl stream nowadays. Physical media is dying

    • @fosho8214
      @fosho8214 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@ajharris1984Sure they will be around, but your movie may not be, the point is Streamers like Netflix from can remove any show/movie from the library at anytime they want and they do. You own the blu ray. Spotify does the same thing with music.

    • @ajharris1984
      @ajharris1984 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@fosho8214 that's Netflix Tho. U paying monthly for Netflix tho thats different that's like paying for cable shows and channels change we already know that. But Vudu for example is free u just buy the movie. They're not gonna remove a movie u paid for

    • @bludhound73
      @bludhound73 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      They’ll change stuff on you. I had 4k movies I bought in iTunes that the studios reverted to 2k. With 4k, I don’t buy as many as I did with blu-ray. 8k, Hell no. The other problem is that most of the movies we see in theatres now are in 2k. Even the 4ks are upconverts. The main benefit is HDR and/or Dolby Vision.

  • @OniMirage
    @OniMirage Pƙed 4 lety +4

    The difference is greater as the quality and size of the devices used increases. If you have a large "high quality" display you will notice the differences between contrast, saturation and per-pixel sharpness. As HDR uses meta data to tell the display how bright a scene is, HDR on streaming or disc will be mostly the same which is why HDR even works in 8bit. The same goes for audio, as the size of the drivers increases and the quality of the components goes up the chances of noticing the differences in audio also increases. For casuals none of this matters and it is all the same anyway, until they come over to your house and they experience the actual difference.

  • @gustavoesquivel6116
    @gustavoesquivel6116 Pƙed 4 lety

    Great video, question many of us got.... What about 4k player VS Netflix!?

  • @sdg326
    @sdg326 Pƙed 4 lety

    how it the picture & audio quality of 1080p streaming from synology onto kodi, vs. blu ray player?

  • @Antimonkat
    @Antimonkat Pƙed 4 lety +12

    Blu ray is still compressed, just not as compressed,

    • @tHAvIlLaMaN
      @tHAvIlLaMaN  Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Everything is compressed for final delivery. If not the file sizes would be insane.
      Just my recordings of these clips were over 100GB. But Blu-ray is the gold standard right now

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 Pƙed 3 lety

      @FirstMinutes higher bitrate = higher quality only applies if the format is the same though. Higher efficiency codecs are still actively developed allowing for higher quality at the same bitrate or less space required for similar quality.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 Pƙed 3 lety

      @FirstMinutes That most people seem to confuse higher = better when comparing apples to oranges.
      Something like 320kbps MP3 is superior to 256kbps OPUS, but they don't take into account the latter is a much more efficient audio codec.
      So higher = better only applies for the same codec.

  • @athenaiswild
    @athenaiswild Pƙed 3 lety

    This guy is a pro, thanks for this simple but enlightening comparison.

  • @MrRidikolus
    @MrRidikolus Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for doing this. There's another video out there that seems to have less dynamic range on the blu-ray. I'm using a 325ES projector to I'm thinking the difference will be undetectable.

  • @JonathanvanZuijlekom
    @JonathanvanZuijlekom Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Blu-ray is not uncompressed, it's compressed the same as streams. Just different bitrates.

    • @NeoAcheron
      @NeoAcheron Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Yup, if you had uncompressed video at 4k HDR, you're gonna need a lot more discs...

    • @cos3
      @cos3 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@NeoAcheron An average movie would be about 5 terabytes in size if it were uncompressed 4k