Denon's BUDGET AMPLIFIER with BLUETOOTH! - DENON PMA-600NE Amp Review!
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► DENON STEREO INTEGRATED PMA-600NE REVIEW
The PMA-600NE is a stereo integrated amplifier with both analog and digital inputs, a moving magnet phono preamp inside as well as Bluetooth. Thanks to the dedicated subwoofer output, you can add your own subwoofer for deeper bass. At $449, the Denon 600NE is a good entry level amplifier with a lot of great features but are there better options at the same price or for less? So which Denon amplifier is best?
INTRO: 00:00
SPECS & DESIGN: 00:47
ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT: 02:26
BLUETOOTH: 03:33
DAC: 04:13
SOUND QUALITY: 05:12
DRAWBACKS: 08:00
COMPARABLE PRODUCTS: 09:13
OTHER DENON AMPS: 11:04
CONCLUSION: 12:34
END OF REVIEW: 13:18
KRISTI'S TAKE & BONUS CONVERSATION: 13:26
SIGN OFF: 23:27
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I’m a budget buyer. My most important concern was how do I get my Apple Music delivered tunes to be able to stream aac over Bluetooth directly from MacBook Pro and IPhone. I also looked at THD. .07 would be low correct?
@@creativeslink The Denon's THD is not going to be that big of an issue -especially over BT. Note, I'm not the biggest fan of the Denon's BT performance, but it works, is solid in its connection it just isn't the most refined BT I've heard.
Thanx Andrew...I have been checking this amp out lately...the bluetooth feature does not seem to a high point or a plus factor..
@@earlismarks7108 I wouldn't buy this amp for its BT capability, but if you own a budget turntable or already have digital source components it's worth considering, but the Cambridge pieces referenced in this video (and in the links) are perhaps "better" so check them out.
@Douglas Blake it’s hard to do Math with the music turned up so loud ;)
I'm a huge fan of the fact you are reviewing under $1000 products. I watch reviews of very expensive amps and speakers but I'm not spending $9500 and up on anything except a car.
We have a whole playlist dedicated to budget gear which you can see here: czcams.com/play/PL0M9xqvUDwdxizrQVGYr2giwb_sL4fnht.html
Real talk! 🏆
I look forward on Sunday to see and especially hear not only your review, but also Kristi’s views on particular products. My Sunday is complete. Thanks you both for your insight.
I've been in this hobby for almost 20 years now with systems in three homes. Finally in my current home I was able to build a dedicated room. That said I've owned Bryston. Naim. Rega. Cambridge Audio and more. Full setups from all of them. All were good in their own ways and did a lot of the hifi stuff right. Detail, prat etc. As I close in on 40 next year I have grown tired though of listening to my stereo more than I focus on the actual overall enjoyment. I do way more long listening sessions now and some of these brands are great at a flash but over time made me want to rip my ears off. Bryston being one of them. So recently I settled on an Arcam pre/pro setup and wow. What a wonderful "pleasing" big warm and still detailed enough sound. I see why Arcam has a cult following. The Arcam draws you in over time. Such a pleasant listening experience, and my favorite to date. Exactly what I was looking for. So why this long post? I get what your saying about sometimes things just need to be pleasant. I feel you pal. Thanks for the great videos.
Nick I can relate. I too have had many a so-called high-end setup and more often than not have retreated back to setups that were simple and just sounded good. Appreciate you sharing. your personal experience!
So what ? your comments are totally out of the subject and we don't care about your personal story !!
Good morning everybody! The sun is finally shining here today! Who else needs a daily dose of sunshine to avoid the blues? 🙋♀️
I drove to the Texas hill country to enjoy it. We’ve got Texas singer songwriters on the onkyo powered jbl built ins!!
So that’s where the sun went :((
Finally got a little sun here in Ontario. Makes me forget that it was snowing while I cut my grass yesterday. True story.
I'm in Southwest Louisiana. Hopefully we'll get some sun soon as well.
Kristi which budget friendly intergrated amp (or regular amp) do you like?
I love the focus on the lower end components. There are way more folks looking to buy in the lower range than the higher range. Keep it up.
For anyone who wonders what this channel is all about, this is the perfect video. As a recent subscriber/supporter, I really appreciate the effort Andrew and Kristi have put into explaining why they LIKE certain gear, regardless of its specs, and why some people might prefer something different. This is really helping me make my own decisions about what I might like based on the EXPERIENCE I want to have, and not what other people say I'm SUPPOSED to like. Keep up the good work, and thank you.
Thank you Andrew and Kristi! I am just starting in the two-channel world - this is exactly the content I’m looking for! 🙏
Glad to hear you’re finding it helpful!
Thank you for the review of this Denon. I have been loving the bonus conversation and Kristi's input. Your motto of "Remember the only person who has to like the sound of your system is you" pretty much covers it all IMHO. That statement changed how I look at buying gear for personal use! Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much Johnny.
2:39 I did almost the same. I have this amp and running near $2000 Totem Rainmakers. I have more expensive amps but the Denon 600 outmatches them with ease. Should be called a giant killer. Great amp! Nice video!
Just received this two days ago! Very happy with it so far. Works great to drive my B&W 607's which I bought on sale for my Project turntable and tv. As someone who recently finished my studies and lives with other flatmates, I don't have much to spend and look especially for a do it all system. This Denon ticks all those boxes.
Keep up the good work, greeting from Amsterdam
Thank you for weighing in and for sharing your personal experiences with us!
I don't think I would be as good as explain all of this to newbies as you are. I would drown them in jargon and confuse the hell out of them with too much confusing information. You guys do good work!
tldr; Thank you for the review, Andrew! I'm an owner of PMA-600NE. You nailed it with sound description! IMHO amp has warm & relaxed coloration, good connectivity, functionality and value. It is not perfect, but really "good enough" when played with. ^_^
Thank you for the great video and content you are making, Andrew! It is always a pleasure to the eye and interesting to hear your take on different Hi-Fi aspects. I respect them because of the honesty of your opinions that I somehow (think I ) feel even though I don't agree with every point you make.
Watched your video on my system with DENON PMA-600NE and Yes - it is my first amp I started this hobby with. ^_^ Reasons I bought it over other products were: price, connectivity and power (70W which, as turned out, is given for 0.7% THD). All-in-all it is a very nicely made component for the price.
Sound wise you simply nailed it! I have been A/B comparing it with ICEPower based amp on two sets of speakers and sound stage in both cases was way further behind and also narrower for DENON, as you mentioned. So I can confirm - it is warm and relaxed (read: boosted bass and laid back highs) sounding amp, which I personally have no problem with. :) I really liked your point that it is actually not a big drawback as someone might think. In my opinion, it is a nuance that makes this amp so easy going. I will go as far to guess, that it is a most likely a calculated and smart move by DENON, since many "budget bookshelf" speakers, it will be connected to, have boosted highs and thus combination will not be too bright and analytical sounding.
In my set-up I have DALI OBERON 1 and I like the pairing. I admit that I have boosted highs just a bit to my taste to have that room filling sound and image is simply too far when I am "critically listening". Which brings me to a suggestion / question to you, Andrew: Do you play with tone controls to tune the sound to your ear when you hear that amp has a certain coloration? If yes - why not include some of your suggestions in reviews? IMHO it would be interesting and helpful for a lot of people. After all, there are these tone controls on the front panel so why not use them for an improvement? Greetings from Latvia and cheers!
P.S. Thanks for the Moby - Everloving song suggestion! Listening to the entire "Play" album and it is a true gem!
priced right and all very clean looking hitting these reviews out of the park you guys .
Thanks @westcoast! Appreciate you tuning in this morning!
I've got a Denon AVR-2400 from 1998 that I still use every day in my office, sounds great to me. I guess that's "vintage" now. I also have a Sansui AU-505 from the early 70s that is REALLY vintage, and I just bought the Cambridge ARX85. They all sound great to me. I guess I'm blessed in that I really just hear the music and not the equipment. Yea, good speakers make a difference.
OMG!!!!!! FINALLY A VIDEO THAT 80% OF PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE IN THIS CHANNEL RATHER THAN SOME SPEAKER AND AMP THAT COST MORE THAN HOUSE PLEASE KEEP DOING VIDEOS LIKE THIS PLEASE!!!!
This was a highly PLEASING review =) This Denon is old school nostalgia, bringing me back to the 90's and the Sony and Technics amps of those times. I appreciate these reviews with "normal" consumer electronics, it puts things into perspective in a good way. I also like the fact that you reference music albums and how they sound through the system. It makes the information much more approachable and recognizable for us who now that particular music. If I could suggest anything, it would be to include even more albums over broader genres. Great review!
In the 80's back in the UK I had a Denon amplifier and some Wharfedale speakers along with my record player, 14 band EQ, a dual tape deck, and a Sony CD player which my brother just bought along with the only CD available (Bruce Springsteen). He "borrowed" it (whole system) for a party at a friends house and blew up the amplifier and speakers. Neither of us had money at the time to replace anything, so everything got placed in a cupboard until we did. We both joined the Navy shortly after that and our sister sold everything whilst we were gone. I had a fledgling album collection and my brother had a huge singles collection, boy were we mad! Now that vinyl is making a comeback I wish I had some disposable income for a modest audio setup as listening to the radio just isn't the same quality as a good record through a decent amp and speakers.
Thank you for providing a balanced (and in this case quite contrary) view of the products you review through the conversation part!
I just got this after much deliberation. It pairs easily with my iPhone and bought Elac Debut 2.0 UB5.2 for $200 so it suits my needs. It's very easy to stream music. I also have an optical wire from my QLED TCL into the amp and the speakers sound great for better TV sound. I'd love to get the Power Node but $899 a bit steep right now. Maybe upgrade in the future. Thanks for the honest review.
Hi Andrew. Just want to thank you. I was confused for months on what amp to buy with my Kef speakers and I finally bought the Naim Unity Atom after having seen your review. I am amazed by the quality of the sound and its performance despite its modest 40 wpc. Thanks and continue the good work.
Patrick that makes me so happy to hear! I love it when a system comes together. Enjoy!
I was a Technics fan - but I bought my first Denon last summer - and love it!!
Thanks for the fantastic review. I now have one of these and will probably be filling the rest of my house with Speakers, amps, etc. from now on.
You are one very articulate dude. I enjoy watching your reviews.
I had a choice to get this OR the Marantz PM6006 and ended up getting the Marantz. I liked the dynamics better in the Marantz and also ended up getting the NA6006 Network Streamer, very satisfied! Thanks for yet another good review, cheers! Take care!
Bought a denon avr-x2500h 2 yrs ago which is the only denon product I own. Before this I have had pioneer receivers (10yrs old, that I still use). Cant say much about integrated but the denon receiver has served me well thus far. Use it in a 2-channel audio/ video setup driving kipsch rp-6000f. This setup sounds very good, room filling sound. Not sure how this would compare to a more forward receiver/ amplifier as Klipsch have been notorious for being a little harsh (although I dont feel that way). At the end of the day, I believe it is subjective and the best way would be to audition yourself.
BTW.. I didn't know you guys were in Texas, not sure if you will be going to the Austin record convention this year.
For who don't know, general admission is free this year.
I really like what you had to say about access to gear. I live in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago, I certainly should have access to a great variety of gear to go listen to at dealers. Yet I never do (pandemic notwithstanding). I rely on reviewers like yourself to get me 90% of the way there. Your experience and my watching of your reviews whether I'm interested in the gear or not gives me a very good baseline to go from. If I don't like something, I'll return it. Unfortunately, the one thing that I can't bring to an audio dealer is... my room. So far, so good. Yours isn't the only channel I watch but as with yours, I've tried to watch everything on those channels as well. This gives me an idea of how to gauge a review relative to your other reviews. At this point, I can pretty much guess how you will rate a piece of gear in comparison to other reviewers. More important, I'll know if I'm going to enjoy it.
I got a 90s Denon (integrated) for 60euro on Wallapop (sort of Ebay) and I absolutely LUV it! I use it with a Denon CD player (that I got new) and I only listen to it thru headphones (hd600s, Sundaras, and several AKGs and Beyerdynamics). It takes me to heaven and back, every time.
Props to you Andrew, today things are tight financially for
Many of us after Covid. Denon was always a good go to for quality sound at a good price.
Sounds like the perfect amp for the front room after a hard days labour. Think I will get one.
Loved this review. Looking forward to the Cambridge AXR100 (I have an AXR85 in my office, great budget piece of kit IMHO). To QOTD - I think people are absurdly snobby about Denon. I remember my father had an early Denon CD-based minisystem that was well ahead of its time in both features and sound. The current product suite is well suited to a a range of budgets and will do absolutely fine for ~80% of people.
This is not a bad amp. I have this amp paired with elac b6.2, a sub and modi 3 with chromecast for streaming. Total cost was less than $900 and I'm pretty satisfied with it. I found it worked well for both music and movies with decent amount of bass. My main system is about $3500 and it only sounds good for music. Like Andrew always say the only person who has to be satisfied with your system is you. I love your reviews Andrew keep up the good work.
With all the equipment you test it's only puzzling how you manage to keep your apt so tidy. 👍🏼😉
This is definitely a cool looking piece. I love the one tiny little accent of the words "High Current" in the fancy font. Makes it look a little bit 80s/90s retro.
Had the Cambridge and Denon side by side with my q3050i and kept the Denon. Smoother, weightier but still a nice clear top end to me. Enjoyed the reviews though.
Loved the bonus conversation on brand loyalty. Great take on it.
Thanks!
Particularly about limited availability depending on where you live.
Hey Andrew, 1st for me is accessibility. I am way out in the sticks in NE Oregon.
Recently purchased the KLH Model 5s based on several reviews, including yours.
Recently convinced a friend to let me do some basic cleaning of his Marantz 2385 receiver.
Definitely a beast to carry. 185 per channel I believe.
The Marantz brings out so much of the KLHs' soundstage and other pleasing qualities.
I'm jazzed about the KLHs.
Now I'm looking at amplifier options. The Denon doesn't seem to float my boat. The next Denon too expensive.
I have no experience with Denons.
The Rotel sounds nice. How about reviewing competitors and the Rotel.
Excellent reviews by both of you and your wife.
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIEW! I was looking for budget friendly amps under 700$ with at least 50w and hopefully bluetooth and a remote and Cambridge is one of few that have it. While I can always add bluetooth with an adapter (like the Zen) I just found the lack of coverage of affordable integrated amps sad. Thank you again!
Yes!! this should be so good to watch thanks for this one
I think Andrew hits it on the head: most of us are obligated to our own financial parameters, as well as location accessibility.
However, I will say this. It is very accommodating to have at least two systems in the house, if possible.
As Andrew discussed, using that Alanis Morrisette album as an example: most of us love many albums that were not recorded very well, and often excessively compressed.
So, having another system in the house: that presents a more pleasing presentation of some of our beloved, albeit badly recorded/compressed music; is a musical godsend.
That's why components like this Denon are important.
Thank you for the review!!
Excellent review! Going to check more of your channel out. I am looking to use this for audio listening as well as to play my TV through. My main goal is audio then TV in 2.1 with a SVS sub and B&W bookshelf’s.
Your review is excellent; my thoughts matched up with yours when I gave this unit a trial period. When using a reference track, ( The Man's too Strong) the swells didn't have that lunch they would on my other vintage unit. ( HK 560 ). It's nice to see these findings in words...
Glad you found the review helpful.
That was thorough, & furking excellent in delivery! This is a classic case of a company purchasing & merging two different brands/sonic signatures - both are watered down to the point both brands choke each to the point of self destruction. I look at the back of that Denon & it looks identical to Marantz amps I've owned in the past. Marantz are in the doghouse BIGTIME with me for the way they have treated Mr Ishiwata & his legacy after his passing.
Another outstanding review. Love the honesty. Have to say I am a Denon fan for the reasons you cite Andrew. Loved Christi’s perspective and her self reflection about whether her taste in sound has changed over time. Think it’s amazing two people can listen to the same setup and walk away with totally different perspectives on the impact of the sound/musicality of the experience. After all is said and done, isn’t it the experience (as audio folk...won’t say audiophile) that we seek?
Okay, now my question...I’ want to setup a second system starting with my Klipsch heresy IVs. Looking for an integrated amp that has a really good sound stage, depth and width, as I am realizing (like Christi) that my preference is changing. I’m becoming a more critical listener. I often find myself sitting in the dark or eyes closed while listening to music. Any suggestions for less than $$1500? Pretty much and analog listener (CDs and LPs), but do stream from my iPhone/iPad occasionally. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated
Thank you to you Both; being forthright is awesome...Kristi is just such a delightful reviewer🎶
I think you have a good discussion going on in the video. When I bought my latest amplifier I did not have the chance to hear a lot of different things. But, after doing some research I went with the Denon PMA 1600ne. One thing I noticed was that for a long while the 1600 seemed to fall a little flat. But after about 6 weeks this lackluster character was gone and the presentation was much more involving. Often, when I am watching a review or reading a review I have to wonder just how well broken in the component was before it was reviewed. There certainly are products that shine right out of the box, but this isn't always the case. BTW, about the Rotel ,Rotel has made some great pieces over the years. I am not surprised that you speak so highly of the Tribute amp. I think Rotel has been overlooked for the passed decade.
I had a similar experience with my Denon 600NE...6 weeks seemed to be the magic number for me too and the thing started opening up like crazy all while retaining its powerful yet smooth presentation. I feel like this thing got a bad rap because it’s definitely one that needs a little more play to show you what it can really do.
Thank you Kristi and Andrew. Glad you reviewed another budget Hi Fi component.
Sure thing. Thank you for watching!
How would this compare with the marantz pm 5005??
I have the Rotel A12 I assume a close experience the A11 tribute. Looking forward to that review! I love your channel! Keep up the good work.
This channel has become so interesting! While you(andrew) are a recovering audiophile, Kristi is a budding audiophile! Two vastly different disciplines! Keep going, guys! Mad respect!
I agree S.S. this is a very informative I have learned so much...there is something to be said for having a pragmatic approach to reality....😁
Thanks guys currently looking for an amp to replace my old one. This is the sort of budget I have so any thing in the thousands of pounds area is a total no no. I have been looking at both the Audiolab 6000a and the Cambridge AXR100 so can't wait for your review of the AXR100. Keep it up guys awesome channel.😃
Great point to also review more affordable units, but I enjoy watching your reviews no matter what the price range is. I do like that so many integrated amps are now back with a built-in phono pre-amp, something that was nearly impossible to find some 15-20 years ago.
We do our best to bring you all a range of products at every budget level. Thank you for checking out today's new video and for joining us this morning!
...Word.
Thank you for honest reviews.
Thanks for the review! I had an old Sherwood RM-AX-45 Stereo amp in my study, paired with bookshelf Mission 731's. I had to replace the amp and got the PMA-600NE. My immediate, can I say, disappointment, was die lack of bass definition (like you're saying). I said to a friend, it's like the bass interferes with the mid-range sounds... The old Sherwood had a bi-amp and the Missions are 'bi-wired'. The combination sounded remarkably good for the age and budget. But, I can live with the Denon.
Wonderful presentation. A comparison of the denon/ cambridge audio with the yamaha a-s701(sub 1000$) would be helpful. Well done to Denon for putting out an amplifier with a warm / laid back sound. Because out there, most speakers are from a little to very bright (in the pursuit of "purity")..... That is why the denon who is warm/laid back can be combined with most speakers out there and make a neutral or relaxing sound! Remember there are many many listeners out there than can not tolerate the new "modern" bright sounding amps.Some say(not me because i never heard a denon) that old denon was more warm.Also some reviewers say that cambridge amp are so "small"compare to denon amps. Love pluralism.For me PMA 800 ne is the sweet spot and compare with cambridge,yamaha,rotel.
Great work! Love to see you reviewing entry level stuff for normal people like me (kids, mortgage, ...). To me is either this or cambridge. Thanks a lot for the insight. easily subscribed.
Congrats for another great review. You guys produce unique content whereby we get to hear two very interesting opinions on one product! Kristi, keep speaking your mind the way you do, it's so refreshing. Andrew, your take on branding, product loyalty and hi-fi trends in general is great! Cheers from France!
Thank you for watching through to the end Raphael! I miss France.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I bet. Remember watching your French trip vlog at the time... beautifully shot! And the opening on the Nespresso machine was priceless! That coffee machine sound is ubiquitous here in France! Might be in Normandy soon for a long weekend. Will think about you guys! 🙂
Nice Review.
I recently bought the Onkyo -r-n855. I always loved Onkyo of the 1990s. This is the first stereo set I have bought since then. Unfortunately they all have problems with that burnt down AKM factory last November. It serves the purpose for me. No it is not the best but I like the features (Netradio very important to me because I am an international listener) and has enough power to fill a medium size room. I still need a decent set of speakers.
I always liked Kristine post-review comments, but not this time...LOL. I just bought the Denon PMA-300 ( my first Denon) to drive the Klipsch R-802, which sounded disappointed with an old Pioneer Elite. Wow, everything comes alive... So happy. Keep up the good work Andrew, thank your better half for being totally honest.
Thank you for this review. This is the range I am in for budget audio even though I could spend more, I have trouble justifying it. I will give Cambridge a serious look in the next 4 months.
I like the look of them. I can’t comment on sound but you mak a very persuasive argument to get this amp as a secondary system.
I really enjoyed this review, not so much because of the Denon, but because of other issues raised during the review. First of all, Kristie, you like what you like and that's really all there is to it. I know that's rather simplistic, but nobody should feel that they have to defend what they enjoy. As was discussed, having access to so many different pieces of equipment allows you to get a better feel for what it is that you enjoy. Stating the obvious, everyone is different. We hear things differently, we assess things differently and that makes things more interesting. But I like this review, and more specifically this channel because you give honest reviews without denigrating other people's taste in gear, and you don't come off as gear snobs that will only review the high-end stuff. I would love to see you review one of the affordable Yamaha A-S#01 integrated amps, because there aren't a lot of reviews available. Yamaha is sort of looked down on by "serious" Audiophiles, but I think they make solid gear, if you like the sound that they produce. Thanks for keeping things honest and accessible.
Yessss! Mini sneak preview review of the Tributes!
Stay tuned! Thanks for joining us this morning!
I really appreciate this trend of reviewing budget audio gear. I'm waiting as well for the reviews that you've mentioned. I also would like to have your opinion on Yamaha N-R202D and 303D. I only like components that are warmer so for me Denon is something i'll have to look at and you've made my decision easier because i can now exclude the Cambridge amps.
Yamaha is rarely/virtually never warm.
Usually somewhat the opposite.
Just bought one of these...was between this and a second hand Audiolabs 8000A. Looking forward to hearing it for myself in a few days
I have the Denon PMA-680R (29 years old) paired with JBL S99 speakers (52 years old), a Technics turntable, and a Yamaha CD player. Absolutely wonderful sound.
Perfect timing. I was just researching this for my little brother. He’s almost ready to graduate past a sound bar.
I recommend the Emotiva TA-100 over this. The Emotiva has a better pre-amp, it's cheaper, more power, and had a more widely accepted sound signature, because of its more competent DAC over that of the Denon's.
@@arena_rock_man9030 if it was for me, I would agree. But it’s not. I’m looking at the outlaw RR2160mkii
Nice! Now the fun starts.
I also opted for a not expensive soundbar but I returned it the day after.
I own this Denon and it s a great amp with a lot of inputs.
Even the bt sounds great for a not picky listener and when you don t want to start the pc, tv or whatever digital /analog source.
It’s a solid amp. I bought it for my gf. Ran it on my Martin Logan’s. And it sounds very impressive. The source knob has such a solid clunk changing. It’s so satisfying. The volume knob moves automatically with the remote. The only little thing is since the volume knob is motorized it’s not the best at micro volume adjustments with the remote. The Bluetooth sounds plenty good enough for beginner critical listeners.
And the other problem is the market is pretty limited at the moment with popular models going out of stock and no clear idea when it will be back in stock.
There has been a university study conducted in Germany (I think it was in 2005 or 2006 if memory serves) that tried to determine how listeners respond to music reproduction and what makes them perceive a component or a chain as having a "good sound".
The results were quite interesting because it turned out that there are basically two extreme types of listening. One is all about precision and timing (as in a loudspeaker's step response and time-alignment of the chassis). This type of listener will usually prefer components with a "fast" impulse response and won't care too much about a linear frequency response as long as the sound is not too coloured. Also this type of listener puts some emphasis on a proper soundstage. But precision is everything. These listeners usually don't go for bass-reflex ventilated speakers but tend to prefer exotic concepts like transmission lines. Also, they like their crossover networks as simple as possible for best phase accuracy.
The second extreme would be the listener to whom tonality is everything. They are less susceptible to flaws in timing/precision but will instantly notice if a chain will add a slight discoloration to their favourite female jazz singer's or soprano's voice.
And the study concluded that both of these extremes form a spectrum of preference and expectation. Which is probably what the lady of the house was talking about.
I really love Kristi's honest personal feel of commenting. It makes this channel very honest despite other people criticizing your channel. What can I say Andrew, I guess people probably thought you were too much of a nice guy to get down and dirty with criticisms lol. As for me, I love the Andrew and Kristi dynamic!
Can the amp control the Subwoofer volume / level / deactivate the sub out if you don't want to get up? And does is not charge the sub bass as you adjust the main speakers?
Loved the stories myself. Listen to records and cassette years when I was deployed to Japan bought my first CD player nothing hifi but loved the ease of use of Cd but recently going to records now old 80’s classic like me.
I recently ordered this Denon from Crutchfield. I’m waiting for it to be delivered. I’ve been a Yamaha fan. Since the 80’s I’ve bought Yamaha recievers. I got a Yamaha CD player this past week. So I was looking for a small amp to hook it up to. This is going to be in a small work room and I didn’t want a big receiver .Hearing your comments I think I made the right decision of my purchase. I want a laid back sound for the this room and I will hook some Polk Audio Speakers to it .
I’m in the same camp as you.. right down to the Polk speakers! I’m a CD listener looking for a lower budget amp in my office/music room. What’s your opinion of the Denon 600NE at this point? Cheers.
In answer yo your question of the day...I still have my Denon AVC-2800 powering my secondary system, and I couldn't be happier with it. If, in fact it had a little more balls i would have retained it to power the magnapans, but it just didn't have enough. Denons sound has always been to me a real laid back sound that was always pleasing to me. They always seem to have features that were(are) important to me. Sub out, pre outs, etc...things you don't always find. Denon will always hold a warm spot in my heart. True class act components.
Comparison to the cambridges & rotel was helpful, thanks.
I got the pma 6 like it n done tone of research mostly very positive. Probably not on great for a guy who already had much better .that being said love your reviews honesty is important especially when it's dollars.
Interesting discussion at the end. I have a Denon PMA-2000IVR circa 2005, which is a predecessor of the current PMA-2500NE (basis for the PMA-A110). I think you get a lot of value with Denon if you buy used because they have not really changed the power amp topology for these amps in like 20 years. Google photos of the guts for the PMA-2000 and the PMA-2500NE and they are very similar. I can't speak for the entry level PMA-600NE or 800NE or the premium level PMA-SX series as I have no experience with those.
I feel a connection to Denon. My first stereo component as a kid (early 90's) was an old Denon DRA stereo receiver that I thought sounded great. My dad had a Yamaha stereo receiver in the living room that I thought sounded a bit bright and thin compared to my Denon. I like Denon's full bodied sound, which to me sounds refined and has a pleasing blackness between notes. Some may interpret that as "dark" or lacking detail. To me it sounds natural and unforced.
I enjoy watching the channel and am in the process of upgrading an older Denon and Elac system. (Classic Garrard turntable!) Its in a 14x14 family room and I want it to do double time with the TV. Can't decide if I should have a two channel system or a 3.1 (both with Sub) as music quality is important. I'm not married to any particular brand as I've had Sansui, Yamaha, Denon, all with good results and all worked fine the day I sold them.
Good review as always Andrew! Kristi's opinion is always a must to hear, I guess because she is less analytical and perhaps represents better the impressions of a more regular consumer, but with a lovely voice...
Thank you for watching to the end! Kristi’s input is invaluable!
Hey Andrew I just wanted to say something I have noticed the last few videos is that when Kristi talks there is some background hiss. Love this review. I have a denon in my sound system at home and I can totally see where you’re coming from
I bought the Denon and compare with my Marantz and NAD. I like the sound of the Denon 600. I think it is the matches with speakers that count.
This may be the perfect opportunity to have an extremely productive conversation about different sound preferences...as you know, Steve G audiophiliac was so blown away by this amp that he made it his reference budget integrated for over a year now. I don’t know if you have a relationship with him but it would be awesome to see you two have a conversation on why you have such a polarizing difference of opinion on this Denon. ❤️
I feel like listening to everything through a pair Cornwalls has to play a role for Steve's impression of things.
@@DBB57 If I'm not mistaken, Steve Guttenberg uses the Denon 600 in all his speaker reviews to see how they perform with a budget amp.
Yes, it appears Steve has driven a lot of speakers through this Denon since he decided it could stay in his setup.
Denon is excellent. For that price point. It is a taste of high current sound. The Rotel A11 Tribute looks very nice and apparently it is one of the best sounding amps ever made at that price.
Just bought it. Thank you for your video 🙌
Hope you enjoy it!
Me as well. Got it last night and will be delivered this Thursday:)
You may want to consider adding the NAD C316BEE v2 to your list of budget integrated amplifiers to review. The C316BEE has been on the market for 12 years and people are still buying it.
NAD also have a couple of turntables on the market. They're built from Pro-Ject parts to NAD specifications and have a lot of classy features that Pro-Ject themselves have overlooked in their own designs.
I personally own and use the C558 turntable and the C316BEE v2 (in tandem with a Cambridge Alva Solo phono stage and an AXC25 CD player) and I'm a happy camper.
Great review as always Andrew and Kristi! I love that you hear the great combination of the Denon and the Arylic S50 Pro! I am trying to tell people that is a great combo 🤘! Add the Kef Q350 if you want to party on the patio or the Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 if it's a rainy afternoon of listening and music and chill is on the menu. We just got a full week of it as well in Fort Worth! Keep Trailblazing my friends!
Thanks for hanging out with us today! I would love to know what those KEF speakers sound like. But man that company is hard to get product from.
I would vouch for the combo any day of the week as it is really good. I didn't make a big enough deal out of this point in the review, but I would advocate for those interested in the PMA 600NE to get it over the 800NE in order to leave room in the budget for an S50Pro from Arylic. Just got some new KEFs in house and am eager to see how they sound. Have a great rest of your weekend!
@Kristi....I am lucky and privileged enough to have Randy The Cheap Audio Man close by and he let me test them out in my set up. The Kef Q350 are amazing! They are a budget audiophiles dream. It's a taste of how the "other" side listens. Lmao
Best audio reviewer by a mile.
Had an AVR 2800 in the late nineties and it’s still one of the best amplifiers I’ve had. Would sell my soul for that Japanese only integrated beast they have.
great vid, and review
Man, Kristi is a deep thinker on the Denon subject. The questions she raises are complex and valid. Now, makes me wonder as if I am just accepting of a certain sound or, is it the diminishing returns creeping in (which I do believe is a thing).
“Deep thinker” = Full of soup
One of my first high fi systems was a Denon mini system, I loved it for years . Then one day I went to the local hi-fi shop and heard some different amps , musical fidelity , a NAD and a Rega. I then realized that my little Denon sound wasn't engaging. Sadly it sounded flat and boring like a soda with no fizz. I had no idea why at the time. Looking back I think the little Denon had very little dynamics. That exiting Ooomph wasn't there. I still have the DCD-F101CD player it is very compact and sounds fine with the optical output. I don't think Denon is bad it just doesn't do it for me anymore.
Hello Andrew, would you think Denon PMA-600NE Stereo Integrated Amplifier paired with Klipsch RP-600M Reference Premiere Bookshelf Speakers complement with each other?
Your comments during sign off... words of wisdom.👍
That Moby album brings back some memories alright, thank you for the well presented, informative reviews Andrew. Would you be able to review the NAD C658 by any chance? I'm interested to get your opinion on the NAD as well as the Dirac Live room correction software it utilises...
I was considering this unit but went with the Emotiva TA-100. I am very happy with the Emotiva and their T0+ towers and a Songbird streamer.
I watched the review and thoroughly enjoyed it. I too, grew up with Denon from the early 1990's as I discovered Dolby Surround and later Dolby Digital. I have a low-level Denon AVR 1513 which does "okay" for stereo listening with the Definitive DR-7 tower speakers also from the early 1990's.
I would love to hear how this amp compares to the 2-channel Marantz version you did about a year ago. I'd also like to understand your thoughts on the PMA 110 if you are able to get your hands on it.
Enjoy the reviews, keep them coming. God Bless! -Scott
Hello. Can you please tell me which amplifier you could recommend for use with floorstanding speakers (not powerful): denon pma 600ne, denon pma 800ne, Magnat MA 700?
I really like the conversation at the end. Brands are a bit like religions. Everyone's ears are different and everyone should respect and embrace diversity of taste and budget. My first home theatre set up was a Bose acoustimass 7 paired with a Sony AVR (1998). 12 years later I upgraded to a Kef set with a Denon AVR. 5 years ago I bought an Atmos bundle from Onkyo. I just bought the Klipsch Atmos reference set from Costco and in the market for a budget AVR to replace the Onkyo AVR. Audiophiles would probably laugh at my set ups. Every setup I've purchased though has delivered better sound - at cheaper budgets (when you factor in price inflation). My ears are probably not the greatest judge - but having listened to higher budget set ups - I can't hear where the money goes. So I appreciate Andrew's reviews of budget tech. There is some amazing value to be had if you shop around.
Have decided to upgrade my "work at home" workplace with an integrated amp (just some easy listening in the background while streaming from pc) and it looks like Denon has just the product for that. What kind of smaller speakers would you recommend?
Such great content in this channel. Articulate reviews, then cogent and MATURE conversation to wrap it up. Love it
Thank you so much, Jordan M! We appreciate you watching.
Hi I’m looking at adding a two channel amp to an existing Denon receiver, to power an additional left and right channel. Is this particular device what you would recommend?
Did you major in Psychology? I totally agree with your end assessment. My 2 Denon avrs are from 2007 and 2009. They both still work perfectly and for the prices that I paid at that time sound great. I use them for 90% home theater/tv viewing though with multiple SVS subs. I am currently looking at several Yamaha integrated amps for music but all are over $2k.