I put a Morpheus II on my 5700xt and I had the same issues. Memory getting hot for some reason. I have a waterblock on it now and everything is nice and cool
So from the horse's mouth, seems like there's no taming this thing without a full cover solution, hopefully AIB partners figure it out. Thanks for this comment. So many people saying the Morpheus is better when Ranjitek told me they are trying to figure out a better method of cooling before they sell a 5700xt approved version.
@@TimmyJoePCTech I followed a thread from a guy on Reddit who did the Morpheus 2 as well and he solved it apparently with liquid metal and really cranking up mounting pressure. I feel like the cold plate is way too big for the small die and it's difficult to get it to get enough pressure on the die alone without significant mods but the memory is another issue and maybe a better system for attaching the heatsinks is necessary. I guess I didn't try too hard because I ordered the waterblock anyways.
@UCTH891dCUxTZb-nBULGNLTA I don't really remember what my memory temps were but I know I was shocked. My edge temp was 57 and my hotspot was 100 and I remember that cause I put it in a post when I asked the guy who posted about it. www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cb3oq3/fitting_a_morpheus_ii_to_your_rx_5700_xt_a_visual/?
This is also common with the Radeon VII, not particularly the memory, but the hotspot is unforgiving without some kind of AIO or waterblock, Einswolf 240 AIO is way better on my Radeon VII than my Morpheus II was, despite the Morpheus being better than the stock cooler, it was far less consistent temp wise.
Do not stop. Do no give up Timmy Joe. You, YES YOU TIMMY JOE one of the few TechTubers that still care about overclocking like it's still 1998, I love you for that. So please, keep it going!
i had the same problem on an rx 480 with the accelero. what helped me was thermal tape or whatever its called, thermal pad thats sticky on both sides. that way i was able to tape half the small heatsink onto the memory where it wouldnt interfere with the plate. gave beautiful temps and never any issues. thermal arhesive is definitely a pain inthe ass to work with
@@ban6_ja9o59 Founders Edition card with its heatsink discarded, your own water-cooling solution instead (with a proper radiator. Not the shitty small square AMD used to sell their R9s)
Hey I just wanted to stop by and say that I am currently using a 5700xt with an accelero xi extreme and it's been working great! Load temps cap at about 75 C and has been extremely quiet. I still recommend getting an partnered cooler but if you have an reference model, after market cooling for noise especially, works and can be worth it
What you needed was the Raijintek MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION Graphics Card Cooler, you put x2 120mm fans of your choice on to it, and it works well. But i would also suggest under volting the card to see if this stabilises the card temps
That thing costs 75-100$ without tax AND without fans, that would price it above the 2070S which is the better card even without an overclock. Plus you void your warranty.
A proper cooling solution for the xt series includes the memory as well.. So the water cooling solution would be best to use but again the card is pretty much maxed out.
The point of something like that is better fin area means lower volume for high performance. It's not necessarily to get any additional performance over what lesser fin area can do. You can always compensate for low fin area by slapping a jet engine like fan on it.
A German site had no issues with the arctic cooler but they had the back plate cooler attached as well. I’m waiting to see how the AIB cards are before choosing a new card.
Incredible how the dent in the cooler literally says, "Im broken garbage by design". The irony escapes out the window, with all its bells and whistles.... props for the effort Timmy.
Hey Paul. I’m looking at the Prolimatech. It looks nice! Did you add small heat sinks to the chips when installing it, or just the cooler and fans? Thanks!
@@brinkbodin9239 you can, but they're not the best sticking ones ive seen. for ones that'll NEVER fall off, pick up a set of ENZOTECH VRAM heatsinks...
@paul taylor / Im looking for this card. Found an asus tuf version which is the hottest card. But have plans for change the cooler to a better one. These 2 coolers you are talking about is it plug and play and where can i find a guide for the whole process? Please give me some inputs. Thanks.
Hey Timmy, I think you have a missed opportunity here. You should document all of the issues with the aftermarket cooling solution reach out to the company that provided for you and asked them if they could make a modified kit that would address the issues you found. It would be pretty cool to see a video a couple of weeks down the line that shows a new model of that cooler that is adapted to the feedback that you provided if the vendor is willing to work with you. They like you enough to send you the cooler, they may like you enough to work with you on this and come up with a cool improvement. This is how a lot of you tubers and content creators start getting industry contacts and come out with the own versions of products. Either way I’m sorry to see that that cooler didn’t work out and Thanks for documenting the attempt.
@@VelcorHF it seems arctic made the mistake themselves, sending timmy the version3 ,people in the comments here all seem to be saying the version4 is the one that works better, maybe as timmy mentioned to do with cooling the ram chips directly above the gpu better ? (he mentioned they were getting no airflow with the version3 baseplate)
Just an additional note: Steve from Hardware Unboxed tried a custom water block for an open loop setup and had no noticeable improvement in overclock and overvolt.
You're totally correct but yet I can't help but find it really sad and boring that these days throwing a safer and lesser voltage through your chips actually brings better performance... where's the fun in that?
I powered my fans externally. Seemed like the card had even better clocks from either the reduced power draw, or the extra cooling from the psu power directly giving 100% to the low RPM accelero fans.
One day late for me Timmy Joe... I did this mod yesterday and it was so annoying and it looked stupid and it didn't work right. Good video, listen to this man!
AMD did their best to lock down performance on RX 5700 to force you to buy a faster card they'll release soon. How much sales did AMD lose on Vega 64 from people under clocking/modding Vega 56?
I dont think they lost much, since most of the vegas (either 56 or 64) was sold. Some of it went to gamers, some of it went to miners, some of it went to compute monsters. (I saw pcs with 6-7 VEGA64 running BOINC...)
Thanks for making this video! I did the washer mod a couple days ago to my RX 5700. Which I was super happy with.. but you know we all got that itch to do more. Thanks for saving me the headache. With the SPPT topping out at 78c at 1950 mhz with Furmark. I'm using an older case from 2011 that has one of those side intake fans right over the gpu, I'm guessing that's helping out a bit with the blower style cooler. lol
I used the artic accelero 4 and it actually works really well, keeps everything nice and cool and quiet and looks to be much easier to install with its backplate cooling the vrms than the little heatsinks the 3 uses. My card can only get to 2050mhz on the core regardless of temps, but is significantly quieter than the reference cooler.
before watching video from comments I'm assuming memory/VRMs aren't being cooled well enough. I usually have used aluminum flatbar thermal-taped or screwed onto mount-holes, and then added heatsinks to it with a small fan for watercooling with universal blocks (my 7850 and 480 and 580 all needed extra Big heatsinks to keep high level memory OCing.). for aircooling, I usually stuck pads on to couple it to the main heatsink. the flatbar was absolutely necessary, those dinky little heatsinks individually were not sufficient. edit: I see exactly that was your problem. Having flat bar, a drill, and a saw to make your own heat-spreaders goes a long way.
Its possible that you weren't able to install the aluminum heatsinks properly because that cooler wasn't designed for those cards. Sure, it might physically fit on the card and cool the die but the memory chips look closer to the die than on previous cards and that might be something that wasn't accounted for when the Accelero 3 and 4 weren't designed to account for. Another possibility is that you used too much of the glue. I would have picked up some thermal tape instead since its a very thin adhesive. Another thing is that perhaps the aluminum heatsinks aren't able to dissipate heat quickly enough, maybe you'd have to use copper heatsinks.
Not too much glue, I used a dab, a dab will do. Like I said, this card is just too hot, it's got a hot power delivery. I've been waiting patiently to see what buildzoid thinks of it but he gave up on doing this content I think.
@@TimmyJoePCTech You guys (the reviewers) are more of an expert on the the 7nm cards than I am having not handled one. Maybe more airflow, maybe copper heatsinks, but its definitely something that needs to have something designed to cool that card and not a universal one size fits all kind of solution that the older Acceleros can properly address.
Aftermarket fans. I know all about it. RPM doesn't matter that much, its mostly about CFM of airflow. CFM stands for cubic feet per minute. The blower fan design still does good compared to three crappy fans. At least put Noctua fans on that heatsink !
@@AsmongoId bahahahahah, Nvidia just hate like 10 sub 300k tech tubers over to head office for a little ball tickle and I wasn't surprised that I wasn't invited, I'm quite vocal on my nvidia stance, don't pay full price!
wich accelero did you use, did you try out the version with the big backplate ? and then adding small heatsinks to the memory ? it runs so damn fine in my system ...
Idk man, the accelero III is a pretty beast air cooler. I like it for my zotac amp 1080ti. Not an apple fan didn't seem to have troubles. You had a bad time, I get that. I just feel I'd wanna see other people with the same cooler and see if they get the same results/have the same attaching problems you did.
He doesn't know how to install the cooler, the Xtreme 3 is probably the best cooler you can get for a graphics card, without having to get a water cooler. So people started figuring it out and recommending these Arctic coolers, then uninformed people decided to get the Arctic 4 which they thought would be better... The problem with the 5700XT is that it's VRAM heat sinks are not very good, so if you were to just get the Xtreme 3 with come custom copper heatsinks, you would get very good performance. People that have this setup have OC'd to over 2100, sometimes 2150 or 2200, with memory at 900-925, and their performance is reportedly near stock 2080 levels.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 This. How is someone who is obviously an amateur getting so many viewers? The xtreme works a treat, or it wouldn't have been around so long. What an awful video.
Hi Timmy, I am not an expert by any means, but I was able to put an Accelero Extreme IV on my 5700xt and it dropped the stock temps by 15 to 20 degrees. And after doing some undervolting and playing around with Wattman I was able to keep temps at around 68 degrees while under load. So maybe you have an older version of the Accelero cooler? Mine came without those things you had to paste, and it had a big back heat sink. I hope you can get this card sorted. Best of luck.
Timmy Joe : well the problem is that you are missing the VRM heatsinks if you use the Arctic Accellero 4. I used it on my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC but my card has a separate heatsink.on the VRM-s as well as the backplate is actively cooling the backside of the VRM-s with thermal pads....so yeah, I predicted that in your previous video. But the main problem is the GDDR6 overheating in general. RTX Pascal refresh cards have been having problems with overheating and artifacting GDDR6 since they launched, remember.
I would add thermal pads to the back of the card where the memory is so they can make contact with the backplate. Or use higher quality copper memory sinks like the Enzotech ones and see how that works out.
What about designing your |||closed||| PC case for significant positive pressure- which should push more air through the blower style card (without the fan)? Every major video review I've seen for any modern card is always "open bench" or "open case", so that could be another option to try and get better/quieter cooling with the stock reference blower card (to help keep the temps down longer).
What method did you use to remove the VRM and VRAM heatsinks? I contacted Arctic about that and they said its non-removable. Seems that cooler you have there is an old model that they dont sell anymore, because now they sell it with some black plate.
I'd like to make a complaint about this video. Lots of users are probably scared about the vram temps, but you had an accelero iii. A german channel did a video with the accelero iv that has the backplate heatsink, and the vram, with adequate airflow over the backplate heatsink remained about the 80C mark. That's a huge difference. Please retest this with the accelero iv for the sake of your viewers.
Honestly i think you just lost the lottery man which sucks because my card beats yours and its a Standard XT. The only things i did was settings in MSI Afterburner. But love your videos man keep them coming sorry for your luck.
Actually I've bought a Morpheus II and use it on my 5700XT,use it at stock and it cooled more than with the stock cooler,my card was going at 92°C and about 101 on his hotest point but W/ Morpheus i've got about 71°C and 89°C at his hotest point so for me it worked out well and it's silent.
I lapped the cold plate and did the washer mod and some kryonaut and it helped. About 80c on the GPU and 90c on the junction and about 82c on the GDDR6.
Hi, so I had similar issues with my Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon and the Xtreme III (keeping the stock backplate) - flaky performance in certain games and it actually crashed in Anno 1800 despite showing RAM temperature below 90°C in GPU-Z . I found that the easiest way to "fix" it was to remove the backplate alltogether (it was acting like a heat trap) and point an additional 80mm fan at the board in the GPU Area (From the side). Do note that I'm using two Noctua NF-F12 as main Fans in Pull configuration (TU150 Case exhaust, 1100rpm @load + 50% = 210W)) and an additional NF-A8 pointed at the board itself. Anyways thanks for the Video, it really helped me pinpoint the issue with my setup. PS: I will report back once i get my 3mm Thermal pads to stick between the backside of the Memory Chips and the stock backplate - maybe this can help to reduce temps even further.
I put an Accelro Xtreme III on my XFX rx5700XT this week and had alot of sucess with lowering temps and noise. Those were my goals, and I have bothered trying to overclock it other than turning up the power limit to +50%. Because I had been running Unigine Valley for a while before replacing the cooler meant that when removing the cooler from the gpu the thermal pad did not break or get damaged and just stayed as a single piece on the stock cooler. I did use different heatsinks than came with the Accelero. I had some black aluminum ones from ID Cooling. They came with some double sided thermal tape you apply yourself, on the VRam I turned them sideways and left about 1mm exposed on the inner area for clearance of the Accelero cooler. For the VRMs I cut a thin strip thermal pad to sit ontop of the VRMs to raise the height to be level-ish parts next to them and the placed a line of heatsinks over the top. I held those in place for a few minutes, as the initially bond was terrible due to the thermal pad being a a touch too thick (the ID cooling adhesive tape is intiaitially week, but because very strong after a day or so). * I also place a line of heatsinks on the back side of the card directly over the VRMs. Tbis time without any thermal pad. When applying the cooler I had some trouble with the plastic stand offs. The one I used on my rx480 were to tall preventing contact with the gpu, and I could not find the other ones provided when I first modded my rx480, so I just carfully proceeded without any (this can be a bit risky). Generous application of Kryonaught later, and my temps are down from 98° (junction peak 117°) to 73° (Junction peak 91°) when using stock fan curve. Noise has significantly decreased from 61dBa to 42dBa under load at max fan speeds. The noisiest part of my PC becomes the PSU when under load withe Accelero installed. The only thing I am unhappy about is the GPU area of my case heating up, but that is a issue with my Cougar QBX being so small. I am going to try swapping the Xtreme 3's triple fans with a pair of slim can fans set to exhaust.
ID Cooling iceflow 240 its a 240mm liquid cooler, with a 92mm fan for the vrms and memory. I've installed it on 2 5700xt and it is literally the only solution that works, my temps were 55-60 on the gpu core and max 80*f on the junction temps. (THE JUNCTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TEMP) Also have to buy a raspberry pi heatink kit and put them on everything, on the ram, vrms, wherever a heatsink will fit or you think there should be one, put one on it! It literally changed the card and was super quiet. Again this is the only solution I have found to work, and I had different 5700xt cards with different fans and different manufacturers. Total cost is about $120, and a few hours time to get it all right, but it works!
I just got a AIO Watercooler block for my 5700 (Bios modded to 5700xt) and it runs so much better now it's actually insane. I notice now that there is much less micro stuttering and more consistent frames. HOWEVER, I had to put small heat sinks on all the memory chips as well as junction points to make sure they remained cool.
I have the RX5700 not the XT i put the Accelero Extreme lV with the back plate for memory and so on. I was disappointed i got temperatures of 87C on core and 70-80C on memory. But i didn't give up i threaded the back plate for screws instead of the plastic holdings put Teflon tape on the screws to isolate them also to keep them from loosening over time. Put arctic silver thermal grease on the GPU chip and i connected the fans to my fan controller on the front of the case. Now i have max temp on core of 71C at 1850mhz without changing settings in radeon software. Memory sits at 60-68C at max at 1750mhz. Fans spinning at 1980RPM. Also worth saying is that i have a 250mm fan on case directed at the motherboard. What my conclusion was for threading and putting screws thru the back plate was the fact i didn't get an even pressure on the thermal pads wish also resulted in uneven contact for the gpu core for the cooler. Hope it helps someone. www.arctic.ac/eu_en/ax4.html
I don't blame you, AC coolers are difficult to mount properly. I would try again if i were you. Also, check if the cooler itself is not a defective unit. Yes, they did send it to you, but from what i see it is in retail packaging.
This entire video is amateur hour. You should clean the memory properly then use and eraser to make sure the glue adheres to the memory chips properly. Then you spread the glue on both the heatsink and the memory chip and let it settle for a minute.
i have a regular 5700 xt with a ek thermosphere waterblock and a be quiet 80 mm fan pointed at the memory and vrm of memory controller, gpu vrm is also watercooled temps below 60 and memory temps around 84. That was worth it. gained a much more stable frequency, altough my card is not a good overclocker.
Timmy, love your videos but I had the complete opposite experience with the Accelero III on my 5700xt. I purchased my card on launch day and couldn't get it to survive even stock clocks with the blower. Here is my post on LTT forums explaining my issues then covering the Accelero installation with pictures + tips linustechtips.com/main/topic/1086542-accelero-xtreme-iii-and-iv-5700xt-tips/ My combo is an R5 3600x and 5700xt. You can check out my 3dmark scores all under user name CartridgeCrusadingDesh but my best Timespy run was: Total Score - 9284 Graphics - 9699 CPU - 7476
Checked out your post after being really tempted to try out the Accelero IV (I have the room). In your LTT post you never mentioned your memory temps after installing the Accelero, could you do me a big favour and check those for me? Really want to do this mod but insure if it's worth if memory temps would still be 90c+
5700 XT, stock hardware and using the auto undervolt which is keeping my max temp at 82C rather than 88C that I was seeing a week ago. Will do the washer and paste mod and hopefully, once we're in the 70's, I'll start fiddling. Thanks for the video :)
This washer trick is actually originally from the xbox 360, the first gen 360's had insane over heating problems, and the community came up with this fix for it. no doubt Steve was one of if not the first to do it on a 5700 and I hate to take credit away from Gamers Nexus but this mod has been around for years.
I remember your aftermarket cooler mod video and I just didn't liked the idea as a RX480 reference owner, blower fan is a must if you don't mind the sound from it, in this case you just needed an adjustment to make it cooler. Blower is made to be used at 100% under load taking all the bad hot air to outside of the PC. Sadly the aftermarket cooler hype will kill the blower desing on the next RX 6000 reference model.
You should've had the Accelero Extreme IV, which has that giant heatsink backplate. I have a GTX 1070ti where I use both the little glue on heatsinks directly on the chips, and that giant heatsink backplate, and it's cooling the entire card really well. I also used a better heatsink glue than the one in the box, which has higher thermal conductivity and it dried faster. Might have been enough to keep this card under control, if you want to keep it aircooled. Water cooling will of course do better, but that's a whole new can of worms to open for most people. :)
Hey Timmyjoe, thx for the video. IMHO you should use the superior Accelero Xtreme IV rev. 2. I used both that and the Accelero Twin Turbo III; the GPU I tested (RX 480 blower, GTX 980 Ti) runs cooler and with less noise. The backplate helps cooling a lot. For me less noise is THE reason for an aftermarket cooler (a bit extra performance is a nice gift, extra). But all will not help if you lost the silicone lottery. To be honest, besides nice numbers... OC is for the real world not important. Unplayable FPS will not reach super smooth levels. All the best from Germany, Pepe
I use a thin layer of JB weld for permanent heat sinks it is thermally conductive and works awesome , it takes over night to set , it is also electrically conductive so care has to be taken it has metal particles in it according to a powerful magnet.
Guys the thing is: Morpheus coolers are getting very hard to find 2 of the 3 versions arent even avaliable in germany anymore for example, and Raijintek themselves didnt send Timmy one, i dont know if we get to test this thing ever... And its probably not even worth it; yes temps will go down to i guess 55-60°C but that wont do much as RDNA doesnt scale well above 2Ghz which got demostrated here and the memory, there only difference in cooling which is: thermal-adhesive-pads are beeing used opposed to thermal-glue as seen here. So what are your thoughts? I now would only see that new video just to see a Navi-cooling video with actual luck and achievement in the end...
The days of buying a CPU/GPU and just clocking the hell out of it are over, I think. My aging 2700K is OC'd to 4.6 GHz all-core on air from a base of 3.5 GHz, but any more the mfgrs have already wrung that performance out of the hardware and it's riding the edge of what it's capable of right out of the box
I own an Arctic Accelero Extreme V. It has a big back plate to cool the vrm and ram. It makes your gpu a 4 slot card but it works and completely reversible. Its a complete solution but it is for the more advanced users, I could see people messing up the mounting lol.
I'm always seeing your videos in my suggestions, with a thumbnail symboling the pure desperation of your failed, crazy hardware projects. Haha always good for a great laugh. Good stuff :D
You've put a lot of time into this, I know the feeling spending time on something like this and not getting the results you want. Well in my case just fixing a laptop overheating! My laptop gpu used to over heat all of the time and every time I tested new thermal paste, I had to almost fully disassemble the laptop each time, get the motherboard out to get to the gpu/cpu. I had to do this like 5 times! I eventually got it sorted using Noctua's NTH1 thermal paste- it worked perfectly for the gpu but now the cpu overheats! Now I need to take it apart again and put NTH1 on the cpu! After disassembling the laptop many times, I became faster doing so, then I recorded a video of it, replacing the thermal paste too. The laptop is the: Acer V3-571g 17.3" 1080p display, gt 650m 2gb gddr3. still a good laptop, can run Apex legends! kind of... I love your content keep doing what you are doing!
You could do what I did when I accidentally broke 2 fans on my 1070 strix while dust cleaning it with a blower (cut my fingers when it shifted and the fans were spinning fast). I took off the shroud and cabletied 2 120mm desktop fans to it and it runs cooler than it did originally. The idea came from Linus saw a video where he did the same thing once. Or just wait for the Aib cards
Mounting the Casefans on the card upside down could help, because the air is getting sucked through. I saw a video with this solution in an DAN A4 Case which worked very well.
My EVGA 1070 Ti SC hybrid overclocks +225 offset for 2126 MHz stable in games at 59c steady state gaming load. It sound like the "AMD winning again and again" crowd doesn't know what a good experience looks like.
You don’t have a Titan is why... my Titan Xp Collectors edition runs within 3c of thermal limits at stock (ahem, on an open air test bench at 100% screaming jet fan mode...). My laptop 1070 stays cooler (and I have it beating overclocked desktop 1070), and that’s a super thin MSI GP63, so it’s like 0.5 inch thick laptop! Nvidia sucks at blower coolers even more, but at least it’s not as bad as the horrifically bad drivers they make! Also you’re comparing the hybrid? Fury X was a stock card by Radeon, and it kept cooler than what you mentioned even though it was a much more power hungry card. The issue is radiator support in cases, and a lot of people have trash cases (like the new NZXT H510 they reviewed today), case companies keep making the most $hit cases even at $180 and they thermal throttle almost any component! Radeon reference cards cannot change user cases, and they know some idiots will be putting these in heat coffins so they end up needing something that can work adequately for those worst cases (obviously there is compromize, personally I’d use 200w fans to make absolutely sure it overclocked well and stays cool, but I’m sure OSHA and consumers don’t want an electric leaf blower in the case, hence you’ve got to compromise when you are making a component that will be used by everyone from pros to complete idiots, the idiots won this design...)
maybe the 5700xt has some imcompatibility with the accelero, but that doesnt mean that you have to wait a night for the thermalglue to dry up. usually in an hour its ready. maybe you got some defective thermalglue or something.
The problem is that the memory heatsinks doesn't connect to the big ass heatsinks. That little cooler is not enough. So I got that, what you try to say, but the Arctic fans have no problems, it's perfect. You tried this cooler with other fans and the problem still exist, so the hot memory problem is not the fans fault. I think this is the GDDR6 problem, because on a GPU with GDDR5, I have no issues with this.
Well you could use little heatpipes and plunk them onto the card as well, like with the Morpheus but some ppl forget to apply that, sadly. The memory does get hot as all hell but welp xD
@@rwdturbo quite significant on memory temperatures, the accelero 3s memory heatsink are quite bad when blowing air straight into the PCB, but are quite good when you set the fans in reverse.
@@RBsRealm sounds feasable mate , being that the ram chips without airflow then get some by being in the path of the INCOMING air rather blocked from outgoing air good comment :)
I've actually seen two people mod their but with the arctic accelero IV, they reported that everything worked out and their idle went from 41c to 34c with a max of 101c to 88c. Dont know how much weight I will give it without seeing it done personally though
You can buy little copper heat sinks for the memory and VRM's people use them in custom water cooling solutions like when using kraken g12. They might help dissipate some of that heat with your custom air solution.
I put a Morpheus II on my 5700xt and I had the same issues. Memory getting hot for some reason. I have a waterblock on it now and everything is nice and cool
So from the horse's mouth, seems like there's no taming this thing without a full cover solution, hopefully AIB partners figure it out. Thanks for this comment. So many people saying the Morpheus is better when Ranjitek told me they are trying to figure out a better method of cooling before they sell a 5700xt approved version.
@@TimmyJoePCTech I followed a thread from a guy on Reddit who did the Morpheus 2 as well and he solved it apparently with liquid metal and really cranking up mounting pressure. I feel like the cold plate is way too big for the small die and it's difficult to get it to get enough pressure on the die alone without significant mods but the memory is another issue and maybe a better system for attaching the heatsinks is necessary. I guess I didn't try too hard because I ordered the waterblock anyways.
@UCTH891dCUxTZb-nBULGNLTA I don't really remember what my memory temps were but I know I was shocked. My edge temp was 57 and my hotspot was 100 and I remember that cause I put it in a post when I asked the guy who posted about it. www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cb3oq3/fitting_a_morpheus_ii_to_your_rx_5700_xt_a_visual/?
@@DavidArcher76 You REALLY REALLY need a custom heatsink solution for this If you are serious about modding this card...
This is also common with the Radeon VII, not particularly the memory, but the hotspot is unforgiving without some kind of AIO or waterblock, Einswolf 240 AIO is way better on my Radeon VII than my Morpheus II was, despite the Morpheus being better than the stock cooler, it was far less consistent temp wise.
Do not stop. Do no give up Timmy Joe. You, YES YOU TIMMY JOE one of the few TechTubers that still care about overclocking like it's still 1998, I love you for that. So please, keep it going!
Its funny how we use to mod everything in the 90s good old days.
@@1967KID I miss modding in general, like soldering and such where they mod chip consoles and modding games to overhaul it and such.
Beck in the day when you'd mod different crystals to the motherboard as a way to higher base clocks...
hahaha, remember pencil mods?
@@neavo8421 yep, the old days of shunt modding was a wild west, not too different from using liquid metal though when you think about it
Literally started the video over to see you fall awkwardly again! LOL
i watch it 4 times over it doesn't get old XD
His laugh sounded like Kristy the clown too 😂
i had the same problem on an rx 480 with the accelero. what helped me was thermal tape or whatever its called, thermal pad thats sticky on both sides. that way i was able to tape half the small heatsink onto the memory where it wouldnt interfere with the plate. gave beautiful temps and never any issues. thermal arhesive is definitely a pain inthe ass to work with
They are coming out in less than 2 weeks so. No point in modding now.
Between day 13 & 16 of August different media says (depending of the manufacture)
I know right. Patience Anakin.
Take a seat Skywalker.
Rog Strix rx5700xt with 3 fans :>
@@ban6_ja9o59 Founders Edition card with its heatsink discarded, your own water-cooling solution instead (with a proper radiator. Not the shitty small square AMD used to sell their R9s)
Hey I just wanted to stop by and say that I am currently using a 5700xt with an accelero xi extreme and it's been working great! Load temps cap at about 75 C and has been extremely quiet. I still recommend getting an partnered cooler but if you have an reference model, after market cooling for noise especially, works and can be worth it
Same, except I am using the Xtreme III. 72° peak (91° junction), while being much quieter.
What you needed was the Raijintek MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION Graphics Card Cooler, you put x2 120mm fans of your choice on to it, and it works well. But i would also suggest under volting the card to see if this stabilises the card temps
That thing costs 75-100$ without tax AND without fans, that would price it above the 2070S which is the better card even without an overclock. Plus you void your warranty.
A proper cooling solution for the xt series includes the memory as well.. So the water cooling solution would be best to use but again the card is pretty much maxed out.
The point of something like that is better fin area means lower volume for high performance. It's not necessarily to get any additional performance over what lesser fin area can do. You can always compensate for low fin area by slapping a jet engine like fan on it.
A German site had no issues with the arctic cooler but they had the back plate cooler attached as well. I’m waiting to see how the AIB cards are before choosing a new card.
Incredible how the dent in the cooler literally says, "Im broken garbage by design". The irony escapes out the window, with all its bells and whistles....
props for the effort Timmy.
dude, you got the wrong cooler. Morphius Vega or Prolimatech mk-26... Yes, they both work. Ive tried and both hit 2100+
Problemen is that artic have tell that this coolers works on the rx5700 xt .
But the ram coolers with the pack just sucks .
Hey Paul. I’m looking at the Prolimatech. It looks nice! Did you add small heat sinks to the chips when installing it, or just the cooler and fans? Thanks!
@@brinkbodin9239 you can, but they're not the best sticking ones ive seen. for ones that'll NEVER fall off, pick up a set of ENZOTECH VRAM heatsinks...
@paul taylor / Im looking for this card. Found an asus tuf version which is the hottest card. But have plans for change the cooler to a better one. These 2 coolers you are talking about is it plug and play and where can i find a guide for the whole process? Please give me some inputs. Thanks.
@@abiyhmor how's it going with 5700xt tuf3?
Hey Timmy, I think you have a missed opportunity here. You should document all of the issues with the aftermarket cooling solution reach out to the company that provided for you and asked them if they could make a modified kit that would address the issues you found. It would be pretty cool to see a video a couple of weeks down the line that shows a new model of that cooler that is adapted to the feedback that you provided if the vendor is willing to work with you. They like you enough to send you the cooler, they may like you enough to work with you on this and come up with a cool improvement. This is how a lot of you tubers and content creators start getting industry contacts and come out with the own versions of products.
Either way I’m sorry to see that that cooler didn’t work out and Thanks for documenting the attempt.
true, instead of bashing and cof favouring AIB incoming solutions cof
Anselmo Oliveira He isn’t wrong, the parts clearly do not fit. Universal not so universal in this case :)
@@VelcorHF it seems arctic made the mistake themselves, sending timmy the version3 ,people in the comments here all seem to be saying the version4 is the one that works better, maybe as timmy mentioned to do with cooling the ram chips directly above the gpu better ? (he mentioned they were getting no airflow with the version3 baseplate)
Just an additional note: Steve from Hardware Unboxed tried a custom water block for an open loop setup and had no noticeable improvement in overclock and overvolt.
Timmy the new overclock is undervolting the cards for better Temp and performance.
Thanks Moore's Law is Dead subscriber!
You're totally correct but yet I can't help but find it really sad and boring that these days throwing a safer and lesser voltage through your chips actually brings better performance... where's the fun in that?
@@tinopimentel5734 It's not dead, but the rate is slower
@@willl4575 because QA doesn't want to set low voltage and have a few cards go unstable in a production run. So they put extra 'to be stable'
@@classic_jam its a youtube channel
I powered my fans externally. Seemed like the card had even better clocks from either the reduced power draw, or the extra cooling from the psu power directly giving 100% to the low RPM accelero fans.
0:34 I can´t stop looking at Timmy´s hair wiggling when he moves his head xD
One day late for me Timmy Joe... I did this mod yesterday and it was so annoying and it looked stupid and it didn't work right. Good video, listen to this man!
AMD did their best to lock down performance on RX 5700 to force you to buy a faster card they'll release soon. How much sales did AMD lose on Vega 64 from people under clocking/modding Vega 56?
It's so true it hurts!
powerplay table mod?
Vega 56 Pulse on 64 BIOS is GOAT!
I dont think they lost much, since most of the vegas (either 56 or 64) was sold. Some of it went to gamers, some of it went to miners, some of it went to compute monsters. (I saw pcs with 6-7 VEGA64 running BOINC...)
Thanks for making this video! I did the washer mod a couple days ago to my RX 5700. Which I was super happy with.. but you know we all got that itch to do more. Thanks for saving me the headache. With the SPPT topping out at 78c at 1950 mhz with Furmark. I'm using an older case from 2011 that has one of those side intake fans right over the gpu, I'm guessing that's helping out a bit with the blower style cooler. lol
I used the artic accelero 4 and it actually works really well, keeps everything nice and cool and quiet and looks to be much easier to install with its backplate cooling the vrms than the little heatsinks the 3 uses. My card can only get to 2050mhz on the core regardless of temps, but is significantly quieter than the reference cooler.
before watching video from comments I'm assuming memory/VRMs aren't being cooled well enough. I usually have used aluminum flatbar thermal-taped or screwed onto mount-holes, and then added heatsinks to it with a small fan for watercooling with universal blocks (my 7850 and 480 and 580 all needed extra Big heatsinks to keep high level memory OCing.). for aircooling, I usually stuck pads on to couple it to the main heatsink. the flatbar was absolutely necessary, those dinky little heatsinks individually were not sufficient. edit: I see exactly that was your problem. Having flat bar, a drill, and a saw to make your own heat-spreaders goes a long way.
Arctic sends a cooler
Hopes for advertising and positive review
Timmy joe : i will destroy this product's fame
@MegaAlpakka Yeah, this is pretty atrocious to be honest. The cooler works great from what everyone else is saying
Its possible that you weren't able to install the aluminum heatsinks properly because that cooler wasn't designed for those cards. Sure, it might physically fit on the card and cool the die but the memory chips look closer to the die than on previous cards and that might be something that wasn't accounted for when the Accelero 3 and 4 weren't designed to account for.
Another possibility is that you used too much of the glue. I would have picked up some thermal tape instead since its a very thin adhesive.
Another thing is that perhaps the aluminum heatsinks aren't able to dissipate heat quickly enough, maybe you'd have to use copper heatsinks.
Not too much glue, I used a dab, a dab will do. Like I said, this card is just too hot, it's got a hot power delivery. I've been waiting patiently to see what buildzoid thinks of it but he gave up on doing this content I think.
@@TimmyJoePCTech You guys (the reviewers) are more of an expert on the the 7nm cards than I am having not handled one. Maybe more airflow, maybe copper heatsinks, but its definitely something that needs to have something designed to cool that card and not a universal one size fits all kind of solution that the older Acceleros can properly address.
the extreme 4 might actually work better on this with the huge backside cooling "sucking" the memory and vrm heat through the pcb
GINGER BISCUIT DIPPED IN TEA FOR TOO LONG = TIMMY JOE
Looking like melted ice cream
Is not because The fan is not Good enought. But that it dont make contact with The memory. The GPU was only 65c.
That gddr6 memory must run hotter, I ran that very same arctic 3 fan cooler on my old R9 290x and it was superb.
Aftermarket fans. I know all about it. RPM doesn't matter that much, its mostly about CFM of airflow. CFM stands for cubic feet per minute. The blower fan design still does good compared to three crappy fans. At least put Noctua fans on that heatsink !
what does CFM stand for?
My disappointment is immeasurable...
And my day is ruined
Classic
calm down... hes hired by nvidia
@@AsmongoId bahahahahah, Nvidia just hate like 10 sub 300k tech tubers over to head office for a little ball tickle and I wasn't surprised that I wasn't invited, I'm quite vocal on my nvidia stance, don't pay full price!
@@AsmongoId terve munki nimi onh santtu
@@AsmongoId the guy isnt capable , its clear he has no tool room experience.
wich accelero did you use, did you try out the version with the big backplate ? and then adding small heatsinks to the memory ? it runs so damn fine in my system ...
Idk man, the accelero III is a pretty beast air cooler. I like it for my zotac amp 1080ti. Not an apple fan didn't seem to have troubles. You had a bad time, I get that. I just feel I'd wanna see other people with the same cooler and see if they get the same results/have the same attaching problems you did.
Same
Yeah, way too many people online with great results on this. He made a mistake here.
He doesn't know how to install the cooler, the Xtreme 3 is probably the best cooler you can get for a graphics card, without having to get a water cooler. So people started figuring it out and recommending these Arctic coolers, then uninformed people decided to get the Arctic 4 which they thought would be better... The problem with the 5700XT is that it's VRAM heat sinks are not very good, so if you were to just get the Xtreme 3 with come custom copper heatsinks, you would get very good performance. People that have this setup have OC'd to over 2100, sometimes 2150 or 2200, with memory at 900-925, and their performance is reportedly near stock 2080 levels.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 This. How is someone who is obviously an amateur getting so many viewers? The xtreme works a treat, or it wouldn't have been around so long. What an awful video.
Thanks for taking one for the tech community. In the GPU market for my daughter's rig. good information.
Hi Timmy, I am not an expert by any means, but I was able to put an Accelero Extreme IV on my 5700xt and it dropped the stock temps by 15 to 20 degrees. And after doing some undervolting and playing around with Wattman I was able to keep temps at around 68 degrees while under load. So maybe you have an older version of the Accelero cooler? Mine came without those things you had to paste, and it had a big back heat sink. I hope you can get this card sorted. Best of luck.
its not that he has an older version ,if you look and listen he has A DIFFERENT VERSION his is the version 3
He is using the 3, same one that I used.
I also dropped my temps and noise on my 5700XT but I was using a different set of heatsinks with my card.
Timmy Joe : well the problem is that you are missing the VRM heatsinks if you use the Arctic Accellero 4. I used it on my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC but my card has a separate heatsink.on the VRM-s as well as the backplate is actively cooling the backside of the VRM-s with thermal pads....so yeah, I predicted that in your previous video.
But the main problem is the GDDR6 overheating in general. RTX Pascal refresh cards have been having problems with overheating and artifacting GDDR6 since they launched, remember.
I see you took the comment from your previous video for this card! Happy to see us help you in some way! I honestly though you already saw his video
I would add thermal pads to the back of the card where the memory is so they can make contact with the backplate. Or use higher quality copper memory sinks like the Enzotech ones and see how that works out.
Damn, a swing and miss. Keep up the good work and don't get burnt out. We need consistent content
The Chris Farley of tech CZcamsrs, keep ‘em coming! 😂
What about designing your |||closed||| PC case for significant positive pressure- which should push more air through the blower style card (without the fan)? Every major video review I've seen for any modern card is always "open bench" or "open case", so that could be another option to try and get better/quieter cooling with the stock reference blower card (to help keep the temps down longer).
Paul from not an apple fan has one of those on his and his works fine?
What method did you use to remove the VRM and VRAM heatsinks?
I contacted Arctic about that and they said its non-removable.
Seems that cooler you have there is an old model that they dont sell anymore, because now they sell it with some black plate.
I'd like to make a complaint about this video. Lots of users are probably scared about the vram temps, but you had an accelero iii. A german channel did a video with the accelero iv that has the backplate heatsink, and the vram, with adequate airflow over the backplate heatsink remained about the 80C mark. That's a huge difference. Please retest this with the accelero iv for the sake of your viewers.
Honestly i think you just lost the lottery man which sucks because my card beats yours and its a Standard XT. The only things i did was settings in MSI Afterburner. But love your videos man keep them coming sorry for your luck.
I put a Morpheus core II on my card and it worked like a charm. Just remeber to use the low heatsinks on the ram.
What are low heat sinks?
i have a coolermaster cpu liquid cooler on my 5700xt and hetsinks on memory :D worksa great
Actually I've bought a Morpheus II and use it on my 5700XT,use it at stock and it cooled more than with the stock cooler,my card was going at 92°C and about 101 on his hotest point but W/ Morpheus i've got about 71°C and 89°C at his hotest point so for me it worked out well and it's silent.
Timmy joe an expert??? At breaking anything with amd written on it???
LMAOOOOO!!! .. Still gotta love him tho, even if he is the Mr.Butterfingers of the pc world!
Maybe try the r9 390x aib cooler mod like you did with the regular 5700.
Conclusion: Do not be a Timmy Joe, harsh but true 😂
Hey Timmy Man, did you consider a Kraken G12 and 280mm AIO with that :D ? Just saying.
I lapped the cold plate and did the washer mod and some kryonaut and it helped. About 80c on the GPU and 90c on the junction and about 82c on the GDDR6.
You should be using the Raijintek Morpheus 2, its actually compatible with Navi o_O unlike what you used.
vega edition is compatible too
Hi, so I had similar issues with my Powercolor 5700XT Red Dragon and the Xtreme III (keeping the stock backplate) - flaky performance in certain games and it actually crashed in Anno 1800 despite showing RAM temperature below 90°C in GPU-Z .
I found that the easiest way to "fix" it was to remove the backplate alltogether (it was acting like a heat trap) and point an additional 80mm fan at the board in the GPU Area (From the side).
Do note that I'm using two Noctua NF-F12 as main Fans in Pull configuration (TU150 Case exhaust, 1100rpm @load + 50% = 210W)) and an additional NF-A8 pointed at the board itself.
Anyways thanks for the Video, it really helped me pinpoint the issue with my setup.
PS: I will report back once i get my 3mm Thermal pads to stick between the backside of the Memory Chips and the stock backplate - maybe this can help to reduce temps even further.
Try Morpheus II. They don't use this stupid glue on the memory.
I put an Accelro Xtreme III on my XFX rx5700XT this week and had alot of sucess with lowering temps and noise. Those were my goals, and I have bothered trying to overclock it other than turning up the power limit to +50%.
Because I had been running Unigine Valley for a while before replacing the cooler meant that when removing the cooler from the gpu the thermal pad did not break or get damaged and just stayed as a single piece on the stock cooler.
I did use different heatsinks than came with the Accelero. I had some black aluminum ones from ID Cooling. They came with some double sided thermal tape you apply yourself, on the VRam I turned them sideways and left about 1mm exposed on the inner area for clearance of the Accelero cooler.
For the VRMs I cut a thin strip thermal pad to sit ontop of the VRMs to raise the height to be level-ish parts next to them and the placed a line of heatsinks over the top. I held those in place for a few minutes, as the initially bond was terrible due to the thermal pad being a a touch too thick (the ID cooling adhesive tape is intiaitially week, but because very strong after a day or so).
* I also place a line of heatsinks on the back side of the card directly over the VRMs. Tbis time without any thermal pad.
When applying the cooler I had some trouble with the plastic stand offs. The one I used on my rx480 were to tall preventing contact with the gpu, and I could not find the other ones provided when I first modded my rx480, so I just carfully proceeded without any (this can be a bit risky).
Generous application of Kryonaught later, and my temps are down from 98° (junction peak 117°) to 73° (Junction peak 91°) when using stock fan curve.
Noise has significantly decreased from 61dBa to 42dBa under load at max fan speeds. The noisiest part of my PC becomes the PSU when under load withe Accelero installed.
The only thing I am unhappy about is the GPU area of my case heating up, but that is a issue with my Cougar QBX being so small. I am going to try swapping the Xtreme 3's triple fans with a pair of slim can fans set to exhaust.
ID Cooling iceflow 240 its a 240mm liquid cooler, with a 92mm fan for the vrms and memory. I've installed it on 2 5700xt and it is literally the only solution that works, my temps were 55-60 on the gpu core and max 80*f on the junction temps. (THE JUNCTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TEMP) Also have to buy a raspberry pi heatink kit and put them on everything, on the ram, vrms, wherever a heatsink will fit or you think there should be one, put one on it! It literally changed the card and was super quiet. Again this is the only solution I have found to work, and I had different 5700xt cards with different fans and different manufacturers. Total cost is about $120, and a few hours time to get it all right, but it works!
I just got a AIO Watercooler block for my 5700 (Bios modded to 5700xt) and it runs so much better now it's actually insane. I notice now that there is much less micro stuttering and more consistent frames. HOWEVER, I had to put small heat sinks on all the memory chips as well as junction points to make sure they remained cool.
I have the RX5700 not the XT i put the Accelero Extreme lV with the back plate for memory and so on. I was disappointed i got temperatures of 87C on core and 70-80C on memory. But i didn't give up i threaded the back plate for screws instead of the plastic holdings put Teflon tape on the screws to isolate them also to keep them from loosening over time. Put arctic silver thermal grease on the GPU chip and i connected the fans to my fan controller on the front of the case. Now i have max temp on core of 71C at 1850mhz without changing settings in radeon software. Memory sits at 60-68C at max at 1750mhz. Fans spinning at 1980RPM. Also worth saying is that i have a 250mm fan on case directed at the motherboard. What my conclusion was for threading and putting screws thru the back plate was the fact i didn't get an even pressure on the thermal pads wish also resulted in uneven contact for the gpu core for the cooler. Hope it helps someone. www.arctic.ac/eu_en/ax4.html
I don't blame you, AC coolers are difficult to mount properly. I would try again if i were you. Also, check if the cooler itself is not a defective unit. Yes, they did send it to you, but from what i see it is in retail packaging.
This entire video is amateur hour. You should clean the memory properly then use and eraser to make sure the glue adheres to the memory chips properly. Then you spread the glue on both the heatsink and the memory chip and let it settle for a minute.
i have a regular 5700 xt with a ek thermosphere waterblock and a be quiet 80 mm fan pointed at the memory and vrm of memory controller, gpu vrm is also watercooled temps below 60 and memory temps around 84. That was worth it. gained a much more stable frequency, altough my card is not a good overclocker.
this seems like the worst experience owning a piece of hardware ever.
Timmy, love your videos but I had the complete opposite experience with the Accelero III on my 5700xt. I purchased my card on launch day and couldn't get it to survive even stock clocks with the blower. Here is my post on LTT forums explaining my issues then covering the Accelero installation with pictures + tips linustechtips.com/main/topic/1086542-accelero-xtreme-iii-and-iv-5700xt-tips/
My combo is an R5 3600x and 5700xt. You can check out my 3dmark scores all under user name CartridgeCrusadingDesh but my best Timespy run was:
Total Score - 9284
Graphics - 9699
CPU - 7476
Checked out your post after being really tempted to try out the Accelero IV (I have the room). In your LTT post you never mentioned your memory temps after installing the Accelero, could you do me a big favour and check those for me? Really want to do this mod but insure if it's worth if memory temps would still be 90c+
5700 XT, stock hardware and using the auto undervolt which is keeping my max temp at 82C rather than 88C that I was seeing a week ago. Will do the washer and paste mod and hopefully, once we're in the 70's, I'll start fiddling. Thanks for the video :)
It's the small memory heatsinks, those small heatsinks are really really not enough for that vram
3:25
the orginal thermal paste from AMD is conductive.
you should make sure that nothing comes on the board.
This washer trick is actually originally from the xbox 360, the first gen 360's had insane over heating problems, and the community came up with this fix for it. no doubt Steve was one of if not the first to do it on a 5700 and I hate to take credit away from Gamers Nexus but this mod has been around for years.
I remember your aftermarket cooler mod video and I just didn't liked the idea as a RX480 reference owner, blower fan is a must if you don't mind the sound from it, in this case you just needed an adjustment to make it cooler. Blower is made to be used at 100% under load taking all the bad hot air to outside of the PC. Sadly the aftermarket cooler hype will kill the blower desing on the next RX 6000 reference model.
Man you have been unlucky with that card...
You should've had the Accelero Extreme IV, which has that giant heatsink backplate. I have a GTX 1070ti where I use both the little glue on heatsinks directly on the chips, and that giant heatsink backplate, and it's cooling the entire card really well. I also used a better heatsink glue than the one in the box, which has higher thermal conductivity and it dried faster. Might have been enough to keep this card under control, if you want to keep it aircooled. Water cooling will of course do better, but that's a whole new can of worms to open for most people. :)
Hey Timmyjoe, thx for the video. IMHO you should use the superior Accelero Xtreme IV rev. 2. I used both that and the Accelero Twin Turbo III; the GPU I tested (RX 480 blower, GTX 980 Ti) runs cooler and with less noise. The backplate helps cooling a lot. For me less noise is THE reason for an aftermarket cooler (a bit extra performance is a nice gift, extra). But all will not help if you lost the silicone lottery.
To be honest, besides nice numbers... OC is for the real world not important. Unplayable FPS will not reach super smooth levels. All the best from Germany, Pepe
I use a thin layer of JB weld for permanent heat sinks it is thermally conductive and works awesome , it takes over night to set , it is also electrically conductive so care has to be taken it has metal particles in it according to a powerful magnet.
Guys the thing is: Morpheus coolers are getting very hard to find 2 of the 3 versions arent even avaliable in germany anymore for example, and Raijintek themselves didnt send Timmy one, i dont know if we get to test this thing ever...
And its probably not even worth it; yes temps will go down to i guess 55-60°C but that wont do much as RDNA doesnt scale well above 2Ghz which got demostrated here and the memory, there only difference in cooling which is: thermal-adhesive-pads are beeing used opposed to thermal-glue as seen here.
So what are your thoughts? I now would only see that new video just to see a Navi-cooling video with actual luck and achievement in the end...
i woulnt be sending him any merc after what he did to their product lol
Sounds like manufacturers are already hitting the limits on what some of their hardware can do.
The days of buying a CPU/GPU and just clocking the hell out of it are over, I think. My aging 2700K is OC'd to 4.6 GHz all-core on air from a base of 3.5 GHz, but any more the mfgrs have already wrung that performance out of the hardware and it's riding the edge of what it's capable of right out of the box
I own an Arctic Accelero Extreme V. It has a big back plate to cool the vrm and ram. It makes your gpu a 4 slot card but it works and completely reversible.
Its a complete solution but it is for the more advanced users, I could see people messing up the mounting lol.
Timmy J is doin the community a big fav with this video! AE stock is good. Don't need to mod. No one else is doing this work!!!!!
that looks like the accelero III, i put the accelero IV on my old r9 290 ref style and some 3m self adhesive chip coolers on worked a treat
The question is do we still need Timmy Joe PC Tech
in 2019?
I'm always seeing your videos in my suggestions, with a thumbnail symboling the pure desperation of your failed, crazy hardware projects. Haha always good for a great laugh. Good stuff :D
You've put a lot of time into this, I know the feeling spending time on something like this and not getting the results you want. Well in my case just fixing a laptop overheating!
My laptop gpu used to over heat all of the time and every time I tested new thermal paste, I had to almost fully disassemble the laptop each time, get the motherboard out to get to the gpu/cpu. I had to do this like 5 times!
I eventually got it sorted using Noctua's NTH1 thermal paste- it worked perfectly for the gpu but now the cpu overheats! Now I need to take it apart again and put NTH1 on the cpu!
After disassembling the laptop many times, I became faster doing so, then I recorded a video of it, replacing the thermal paste too. The laptop is the: Acer V3-571g 17.3" 1080p display, gt 650m 2gb gddr3. still a good laptop, can run Apex legends! kind of...
I love your content keep doing what you are doing!
I think that it is memory limited. Try overclocking the memory as far as possible when you get the waterblock.
You could do what I did when I accidentally broke 2 fans on my 1070 strix while dust cleaning it with a blower (cut my fingers when it shifted and the fans were spinning fast). I took off the shroud and cabletied 2 120mm desktop fans to it and it runs cooler than it did originally. The idea came from Linus saw a video where he did the same thing once. Or just wait for the Aib cards
Lol mad lad but great job!
A true aftermarket cooler made specifically for this card would be cool
Moral of the story is ??? Dont buy sucker's edition wait for AIB one
what about the red devil cooler you put on the other card a few weeks ago?
That was a VisionTek cooler off a 290X on a 5700 or 5700XT
Me: *Reads title*
Also Me: "Wasn't planning on doing that chief"
1:05 A full-cover water block is never the wrong answer if you're not talking about price. All performance characteristics will be better.
Mounting the Casefans on the card upside down could help, because the air is getting sucked through. I saw a video with this solution in an DAN A4 Case which worked very well.
I found a killer deal on a 5700 reference, and was planning on getting an accelero for it. I guess I won't be buying either now :(
Why do you use the Xtreme III, you have to use the IV, this got a massive Ram/VRM Cooler
I have Xtreme IV and memories go up to 98C.
My EVGA 1070 Ti SC hybrid overclocks +225 offset for 2126 MHz stable in games at 59c steady state gaming load. It sound like the "AMD winning again and again" crowd doesn't know what a good experience looks like.
You don’t have a Titan is why... my Titan Xp Collectors edition runs within 3c of thermal limits at stock (ahem, on an open air test bench at 100% screaming jet fan mode...). My laptop 1070 stays cooler (and I have it beating overclocked desktop 1070), and that’s a super thin MSI GP63, so it’s like 0.5 inch thick laptop! Nvidia sucks at blower coolers even more, but at least it’s not as bad as the horrifically bad drivers they make!
Also you’re comparing the hybrid? Fury X was a stock card by Radeon, and it kept cooler than what you mentioned even though it was a much more power hungry card. The issue is radiator support in cases, and a lot of people have trash cases (like the new NZXT H510 they reviewed today), case companies keep making the most $hit cases even at $180 and they thermal throttle almost any component! Radeon reference cards cannot change user cases, and they know some idiots will be putting these in heat coffins so they end up needing something that can work adequately for those worst cases (obviously there is compromize, personally I’d use 200w fans to make absolutely sure it overclocked well and stays cool, but I’m sure OSHA and consumers don’t want an electric leaf blower in the case, hence you’ve got to compromise when you are making a component that will be used by everyone from pros to complete idiots, the idiots won this design...)
Would the morpheus 2 run better?
it has a better setup for the memory/vrm cooling at least. As he pointed out, the accelero just barely fits.
maybe the 5700xt has some imcompatibility with the accelero, but that doesnt mean that you have to wait a night for the thermalglue to dry up. usually in an hour its ready. maybe you got some defective thermalglue or something.
The problem is that the memory heatsinks doesn't connect to the big ass heatsinks. That little cooler is not enough. So I got that, what you try to say, but the Arctic fans have no problems, it's perfect. You tried this cooler with other fans and the problem still exist, so the hot memory problem is not the fans fault. I think this is the GDDR6 problem, because on a GPU with GDDR5, I have no issues with this.
Well you could use little heatpipes and plunk them onto the card as well, like with the Morpheus but some ppl forget to apply that, sadly. The memory does get hot as all hell but welp xD
Is the GPU mounting bracket on TOP of the backplate at 6:41 or am I looking at it wrong?
Have you tried setting the aftermarket fans on the Accelero iii to blow away from the PCB?
I know it sounds weird, but it works.
Have you done this with the 5700xt? What's impact did it make compared to blowing on the card?
@@rwdturbo quite significant on memory temperatures, the accelero 3s memory heatsink are quite bad when blowing air straight into the PCB, but are quite good when you set the fans in reverse.
@@RBsRealm sounds feasable mate , being that the ram chips without airflow then get some by being in the path of the INCOMING air rather blocked from outgoing air
good comment :)
I've actually seen two people mod their but with the arctic accelero IV, they reported that everything worked out and their idle went from 41c to 34c with a max of 101c to 88c. Dont know how much weight I will give it without seeing it done personally though
yo timmy do you have a i7 3930k/e5 1650 you wouldnt mind parting from?
This is really a bummer. I guess only the aftermarket cards will decide my purchase.
You can buy little copper heat sinks for the memory and VRM's people use them in custom water cooling solutions like when using kraken g12. They might help dissipate some of that heat with your custom air solution.
Worked great on my r9 290x! Had to chop up see spare heatsinks cause they don't ship enough of them...