Mo-Dettes - WHITE MICE / WHITE MOUSE DISCO - RARE VIDEO
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- RARE - possibly unique!
I can't change the front card on the video - so, to set the record (and my faulty memory) straight...
This video was Produced by Chris Reynolds and Simon Fanthorpe. Chris directed from the floor and operated one of the cameras while Ian Henges and I were in the gallery and ran VTRs and vision switched from there. Chris and Simon met the group at a gig and asked them to make the video. Later, I asked Chris if I could do my own edit and use the studio version on my directors showreel and I agreed. So apologies to Chris for forgetting the exact story - it was over 40 years ago...
Shot in the primitive studio at the London College of Printing in 1979... All I have left is this dodgy quality VHS - so, with apologies for that, sit back and enjoy one of the most under-rated bands of the 80s... All hail the Mo-Dettes...
Remember - No girl likes to love a wimp...
Main singer was actually my French Teacher in high school. I remember when she came out with the fact that she was in a band and we all couldn’t believe it.
Thats frikkin rad😎🤓
i concur with @
UnicornsandUfos... on that point (except, perhaps, the use of the word 'rad' in a sentence ;), probably would have gone with 'phat' myself :9 .)
though this proves it really is a small world after all - dope! :)
ayooo
dude she's mine currently-
Lucky you
I remember all the quirky New Wave bands I followed either broke up or became very commercialized after '83. People make fun- the dorky dance moves, thrift store fashions, but for me it was such a magical time.
Singer is absolutely gorgeous
Beats the hell out of what today's kids are being fed.
Talk about being "commercialized"-80s punk rock variety and style can never be matched on the scale that it was especially commercially! IE; Pennywise etc.....
stay chipper pretty lady
They look really cool!
No need to apologise for the quality of the video. this is just brilliant.
This was really ahead of its time considering. This was before mtv.
@@PixieKitsune videos were being made long before MTV... especially British acts.
This track is perfect in every way possible!
The voice of Ramona Carlier is fantastic Mo-dettes operational years 1979-1982 - formed by guitarist Kate Korris and bassist Jane Crockford and June Miles-Kingston (drums) the genre of this all-female band is Post-punk genre, WHITE MICE it's a piece, a track, a single from 1979 - DO NOT Dismiss NEVER always post rare videos. Clever HUMAN !^_^! COMPLIMENTS R4949
Whoever thought one of my old college projects would one day be available to the world!!! I remember my tutor at the time didn't think much of the video or the song...
this is great, both the song and your video
bought this on 45 epic
For the uninformed, like me, could you please say how this came to be made at the London School of Printing, please ?
Thanks very much.
@@heathstjohn6775 The LCP (London College of Printing) was (and is) a multi-media college with a great film and tv department. Now called the Loncon College of Communications to clariofy its main function.
@@R4949 Hello.
Thanks for the reply.
I wonder if they stayed late one day to film it; and if they mimed to the song they could hear ?
Regards.
Ramona is a teacher now... MY teacher to be exact! She hasn't changed a bit.. :)
Very common for musicians and DJ to become teachers.
@@sammencia7945 I can personally vouch for that. I love it!
WOW so strange - I was looking at her and thinking ''teacher'' that is cool
I just discovered thus band and I already love them
Still amazing in 2020. Who's with me?
In 2021
especially in 2020s i'd say
In 2022
@@anthonyardisone1161 I concur. October now.
2023 and Hell, yeah!
This was actually produced by Chris Reynolds and Simon Fanthorpe. This
is only the studio shoot section of a video that contained much location
footage. Rather than Direct what was my project, from the studio
gallery I directed much of it from the Studio floor whilst operating a
Sony 300 portable TV camera. David Rose and Ian Henges were present and
sat in the studio gallery and ran VTRs and vision switched from there,
so they were involved in the production. Before the studio session
neither David or Ian had heard of the group. Simon and I met the group
at a gig and asked them to make the video with us and we arrange all the
logistics. Following the studio shoot Simon and I shot more material
outside and in their flat. Later, David Rose asked me if he could use
the studio version on his directors showreel and I agreed. I did not
expect him to claim it as his work decades later.
Would be great to see the completed video do you have it anywhere?
best part about being 50, seeing bands like this.
lol, how true! Saw them at a 'Rock Against Sexism' gig in 79 I think. : )
youandwhosearmy? All you beat there, was crime ma friend x ROCK AGAINST
true that.
same here!
Yes , I totally agree. everyone says a similar thing about the era they grew up with but I really think that the only times where music, culture and "'feeling' " were so enjoyable, important and still relevant, is the 60s scene and the Punk / Post Punk scene. of the late 70s and early 80s .
There seems nothing now that people can relate to and express themselves with that is so " whole politically , culturally and socially . and just so obviously enjoyable.!
The lead singer's look is so cool and timeless, don't forget this is 1979!
yes people dressed cool in that era 🙄
@@thecapricorn11 The mainstream didn't (they were still pretty flared-out, even at that late point), whereas the minority (i.e. the post-punk/new wave set) did..
@@duffbaker9554 ok
@fogdust this was ahead for 1979. They were at the front of the wave that rode into the 80s. They were making it!
@@hannahmccoy8336 sure
‘If I was a homely girl I’d like to marry you.’ I love that line!
Brilliant line! That, and you can stock my larder line! It's one of my best earworms too !!
Just awesome!!
Loved the mo-dettes. I used to write to them and still have the letters AND the badges they sent me. Shoulda been far bigger!!
katastrophenschutzwa but if the badges were bigger, they might not fit in the post...
😉
I've taken the liberty of fixing the sound on this and submitted it as a response. It took quite a lot of work as the VHS seems to be running at about 97.5% the speed of the original. So I had to spend hours cutting and tweaking to make it work. This song has been in my all time top ten since I was a kid so it was very much a labour of love. Sadly YoutTube have 'detected third party content' on mine and slapped an advert on it :( Hope you don't mind :)
they once sang happy birthday to me at a gig in London, beat that !!
I'm back to the late late 70's (perhaps early 80's)
I saw them at the London Lyceum with Nina Hagen and then in my home town of Bedford at the Bunyan Centre. Both times they let me take photos of them back and front stage which I now treasure.
Thank goodness for You Tube
Guitarist Kate Korus, who had previously played with the all-female bands the Castrators and also Slits, was originally from the States, although she'd lived in England since 1974. Bassist Jane Crockford was a teenage runaway whose claim to fame was sharing a squat with Sid Vicious and Johnny Rotten. Vocalist Ramona Carlier, a former ballet student from Geneva, Switzerland, had apparently moved to London due to the lack of punk culture in her home country. Prior to joining Mo-Dettes, Ramona was the original singer of another band Kleenex / Liliput, under the pseudonym Regula Sing. And drummer June Miles-Kingston met Kate on the set of the Sex Pistols' film The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle, where they were both employed as musicians.
All true except for The Kleenex bit 🎶🖤🎶
I didn't know she was in Liliput too; I've still got both this single and one of theirs.
WoW! What a treat to see a video for this old fave of mine. Takes me back to when I was young, snotty & pimply (mind u, only one of those 3 things have changed in the intervening 35 years - lol). Punk & New Wave saved my life. Thanx 4 sharing this!
Bass player is Jane Crockford, former member of Bank of Dresden. She also sang some lead vo. After a lengthy battle with cancer, Jane passed away at South Lake Regional Health Center, with her family by her side on Wednesday, September 23, 2009, in her 57th year.
Er nope . Not true!
No way, she was the coolest! 😭💔💔💔
@@silviasubstance5125 she is not dead! The above is nonsrnse. Her surname changed when she married. She's currently lives (althoufh divorced) and works, as an artist, in London. Ive reported the above message to CZcams as missinfomation nut they have ignored it. Im sure someone with the same name, poor thing, did actually die, but Jane is still kicking! (iz alive)
She is not dead & lives in London
saw them live back in the day. limited repertoire meant we all screamed "white mice thrice" and guess what happened to the encore 😭 thx so much for the upload 👍
The vhs quality adds to the brilliant song....tyvm for this wonderful share.🙋🐈👍 be well... Toodlepip 🙋
Love the bass line running through this song.
WOW! LOVE THIS and bought it when it came out when I was about 13. Had lots of pictures of Ramona on my wall - I loved her! Jane (with the funny eyebrows) was married to Woody from Madness and used to work in my local hairdressers - she was ace.
Got into punk in 1982 or so. when I was around 11 years old. My older brother and all his friends were deep in the scene. From Peni to Adolescents, from Blitz to Bad Brains, etc... But we've always loved this song so much. It was brilliant. I still have the original 45 and the cover that's shown at the start of this video. Still very much into the more hardcore punk, but this song(and Masochistic Opposite which is side B) will always hold a place in my heart.
Thank god for college radio in Boston during this era. It was the only place to hear this great music
Had this tune on "The Last Stiff Compiliation" - later found the single for sale at the local import record shop.
I was buying British music magazines - NME, Sounds, Melody Maker and the like - found an article about the Mo-Dettes - more importantly photos!
Right then I decided I would propose to Ramona Carlier. If that failed - June. All these years later seeing this video brings back some fond memories of the 80's. especially women's hairstyles, and clothing. I miss the 80's
Good performers, the bass line is very well done, surprising they did not have more air time in the 70s
this was shot in december of 1979 fuck off and take your ignorance elsewhere
Still have this single and still frakken
I remember seeing them back in 1980 at Jacksons Lane Community Centre London, they were great!
Lyrics to White Mice written by Jane Perry Woodgate nee Crockford 1979 / Verse Three: I’m not dumb / I’m on the run for someone / Sweet and tasty / Young men always / Turn my head / Can’t help acting hasty / Now it’s said / It’s straight to bed / No need to make it harder / I believe in plenty of / Nice things to / Stock my larder. Chorus
I always got a kick out of "White Mice" by The Mo-Dettes. I had/have this song on a vinyl album/LP titled "The Last Stiff Compilation," a sort of "greatest hits" by acts from the former (and now revived, I understand) Stiff Records label, a roster which at one time included Elvis Costello, The Damned, Ian Dury & the Blockheads, Lene Lovich, Nick Lowe, and Wreckless Eric, among many others.
One other novel aspect of that LP was it featured Lene Lovich's unbilled Japanese version of her cover of Tommy James & The Shondells' "I Think We're Alone Now."
Stiff Records also had some great ad slogans. among which were--
"If you can't be sure, Be Stiff!"
"Undertakers to the industry"
"Where the fun never sets"
"Surfing on the New Wave"
"Round records for square people"
"Hit records for missing people"
"Our record is extremely good."
"The vinyl is final."
"If they're dead - we'll sign 'em."
"If it ain't Stiff, it ain't worth a fuck."
AND this highly creative gem--
"In '78 everyone born in '45 will be 33 1/3 (a play on the RPM speeds of vinyl records, for those too young to recall)."
+gymnastix DEVO too!
Rachel Sweet made me stiff forever and a day, so petite, she can't be beat, but I beat it anyway
Thanks for having this and making it available. Had this on tape some 41years ago and now it’s on my Spotify favourites list. Love this sound. Oh what times those where.
This girl is destroying her bass. Does she even know how awesome she was?
Philippa Denney Jane could play great bass and she was a tough cookie but a nice person. We were neighbours for a while during the 80s. She was married to Woody for a while but they split up. I wonder what happened to her. I thought she was great although some folks were a bit scared of her.
@@commonsense5401 I knew her in the late eighties, when she was a bicycle messenger for a while. She was crazy and fun. She was also a lot prettier than in this vid, with really long black hair.
@@flip1325 you complete idiot!!!! Haha!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@flip1325 you'll see soon enough your group think, victim mentality bullshit is completely unnatural and in fact completely misaligned with the natural order of the WHOLE WORLD!!!!!!!! The lad quite obviously meant no offence at all when he was commending the bass player's capabilities but you FOUND OFFENCE IN A COMPLEMENT because you are a FUCKING MORON GETTING OFFENDED ON OTHER PEOPLE'S BEHALF!!!!!!!!!!
@@flip1325 you're trying to take the moral high ground like a typical lefty, passive aggressive, simple minded moron. Go grow a backbone you weakling.
Brilliant, never seen this before.loved the LP at the time. love the fact it is so lo fi and jangly excellent.
them Kleenex and about 5 others were underrated
X-Ray Spex, The Rezillos, The Rings, The Models and The Cortinas.
raincoats, delta v, the slits
Au pairs, essential logic, maximum joy, suburban lawns, the flowers...
Girls At Our Best! Check out their "Getting Nowhere Fast", a killer from 1980.
Pylon
A Lydia lunch link brought me here. How did i miss this for so long ?? Absolutelyin love
Really like the old time quality of the video; it adds a lot. Plus great band! I think I'm in love.
Awesome early 1980s video technology! I LOVED the Mo-Dettes, thanks for sharing!
What an absolute gem! In my youth me and my mates used to get up on stage at Mo-dettes gigs and join in with them belting out Twist and Shout for their encore. A wonderful band that always did a great live set and deserved more success.
Love this tune and its 70's Bass Guitar punk sound...Classic!!!
Just listened to it again, this is a tune
I’m only 2 years old and I really love to rock out to the Mo Dettes
Rodney on the Roq used to play this song a long time on KROQ. 😁 Good old memories!
Don't why it's taken me 10 years to find yo this.
I do know that 40 years on I still love this song.
Ta!!
Fantastiic, great song and great band, good memories from a good time in life!
I still have this 7" single from rough trade records,,,,an amazing bassline even now....unfortunately I never got to see these ladies play live...thanks for uploading the video :) :) :)
Christ on a bike!! Takes me back a bit. I bought the 45 and loved her sexy voice. Played it so much it drove my old feller mad. Thanks for posting.
Well now, these ladies were DEFINITELY an influence on The Epoxies. TY for the upload.
Still the coolest song I’ve heard in my life. The fabulous Rhino comp Starry Eyes introduced me to this years ago.
damn I love these rare gems.
One of my all time favorite forgotten 80's jams. I rock out to this song all the time! Who knew there was a video?!?! Thank you sooooo much for posting this!
That is damn good, that bass is killer!
Very "militant/rockers" Reggae bass style...
Thanks so much for uploading this.
Great stuff, one of the first bands I ever saw, love this track, thanks for sharing.
Never really could understand the lyrics at the time , so really grateful for the translation! remember as kids me and a couple of mates played this to death...we loved the intro.
This song has aged very well. Everything on this song is right. Vocal, Bass,Guitar..and boy those drums!!!
misternylon The guitarist, Kate Corris, was a founding member of The Slits before getting replaced on guitar duty by Viv Albertine. This was well before "Cut" came out in '80. I've read she had a two second stint in an early incarnation of The Raincoats as well, don't know that for sure, pretty sure they didn't record anything while she was there. Not sure about the bios of the other members.
Unforgettable top tune.
HOLY CRAP!!! I practically almost forgot about this band, and the song! The last time I heard this was back in 1983 on a little college radio station in Allentown, PA. This brings back some memories. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR UPLOADING THIS!!
Thank you. This is fantastic...
Bring back the 80,s, and have the time of your life. It beats every era or music since music was invented
Again I have to admit this is one of the greatest bass line of the 20th century…. :)
+gerard cousineau, horrible bass sound (typical of the Höfner 'violin' bass), but a naggingly groovy bass line nonetheless.
I guess that's a compliment Mr. Smell, considering that the bassist of the Beatles use a Höfner, and he is consider by many as the best bass player of the 20th century ! I finally found thatJane Crockford shows that a Höfner bass can be hot, really hot and sweet, purely delicious ! I love the sound of this Höfner in the hands of Jane Crockford simply brilliant ! She composed this song also.
gerard cousineau I'm partial to the bass line in "The People in Me" by the Music Machine.
Jane Crockford still undefeated by anyone so far the Music Machine are pretty good but not quite Jane ! :D Anyway thanks for the comment Qrayon!
gerard cousineau best bass player of the 20th century? Lol. I love Macca, but seriously.
Que bueno que hayan subido esto!! no sabía que tuvieran videos. Genial!
Rodney Bingenheimer played the Modettes!!! I remember and miss those days!
Rodney on the ROQ was the best thing on the radio.
i've got this record i've never seen them perform before thank you for putting this on here
Fantastic, you have to tbink this was late 70's early 80s it's of it's time but fantastic.
Loved it then still do got the single on vinyl. Like an early Fuzzbox.
Mmmmmmm mo-Dettes.
Amazing video. This will always will be one of my favorite songs; thanks for sharing this.
Loved these girls, they had a huge fanbase in Sunderland.
So good. Saw them in..1980/81.
This is tremendous! Thanks for posting.
I have been looking for the Modettes on CZcams for a while and just did a search again for the first time in a while. Fantastic vid, thanks for sharing, Your prof was a twit.
mag on the snare, god bless you for posting this... wickedly wonderful. thank you.
I bought the Mo-Dettes LP when it came out, I still have it
Saw them play in the basement of Rough Trade records when they used to be over in Chiswick (or was it Fulham). In around 1979-1980. I was given this song on a 45 with the artwork you see at the start of the video. It wasn't exactly a gig as such, I only recall this song. I was struck that it was four young women playing together in a girl group. They were pretty rare at the time. Thanks for video.
That is friggin awesome! This was mixed in with my (very cool and punky) aunt's tape of The Pretenders first album, I never knew who it was, but finally looked it up (with the very few words from the lyrics I could even make out) and found this! Wonderful, blast from my distant past, well done sir :)
loved this song when it was new. loved it. Love the video! yes we did dress that way. :-D
Lyrics to White Mice written by Jane Perry Woodgate nee Crockford 1979 / Verse One: Smile so sweetly / So completely / Dazzle everyone / A smile like yours / Should be on show / Oh Gosh / it’s such Good fun / And there’s a lot / Of other things / About you that I like / The only thing that’s lacking / Is a 1000cc bike. Chorus: Don’t be stupid / Don’t be limp / No girl likes to Love a wimp / Dance and make fun / Nicely done / Come and be my number one.
Isn't it fantastic when the actual composer of the song remains so proud of her art to come on here and inform the many fans that remain.
This is the best footage i have ever seen of this great song. Thanks very much for posting. Wayne
Still have this single!!
Great video. Love everything about it. Cheers!!
omg-I never saw them live-thank you!
Kathleen Cabot I did ! at the London college of printing, Elephant & castle SE London where this video was shot, Great days.
I still have my Mo-dettes flexi discs, scared to play them but treasured no less.
Miss the 80’s 😢😢
one of the best videos....its great! Thanks for posting....xoxoo
Nice one! great wee tune fae way back then!
Absolutely the coolest video I have ever seen.
No way...what a find...memory of this...everyone was talking about the banshees..apart from me.You made my morning,thks.
love it,saw them at madness gig in 79 and wow they are absolutely gorgeous
I am addicted to this video, "dodgy quality" dates it, ads to its charm. Thanxs for posting we need more videos like this!!!! CZcams Rules!!!!
Love it!, Apparently they supported Madness & The Specials!, also the bassist Married Woody from Madness, split up after 15 Years though i think!.
Blown away by how similar a certain video by an American pop band (from 5 years later) is to this.
You were thinking of "Head Over Heels", perchance?
Saw them live just the once and so much fun to dance to this and more. I actually thought they were singing in a foreign language most of the time.
Lmao. The other day, I was ducking around on guitar and realized I had the chords to this song. And I was like, sure why not. Let’s learn a song in another language. And when I looked up the lyrics, I was shocked to find that it’s been English this entire time. Lmao
They were the first band that I ever saw live at a plaice called the Coach House , even bought the 7inch version of this track. They also did a cover version of Paint it Black.
I was obsessed with this band and this song whe it came out. Still have the 45 but had never seen this video. Brilliant!!
P.S I totally cracked up when the ole "infinity" effect kicked in at 2:34. That dorky effect was EVERYWHERE back in the 70s! But the vid's a goodie nonetheless. :-D
MothraBlues Sure but to be fair, it does actually fit with the echoey dub vocal effect in that song. So it’s absolutely necessary & welcome :)
Great band. Saw them at Eric's, Liverpool not long before it closed...support was Wah Heat! Didn't know this video existed. Check out the LP" The Story So Far" if you can still get a copy .....
I was at this recording, at the time I was working across the road from the school of printing in Hannibal house above the elephant & castle. I was a punk at the time and heard they were doing this so I managed to sneak in!
Thank you for sharing this gem!!
Pop Mo-Dettes !
First gig I ever saw...
Great bass playing on this.
Thank you much for sharing. They are great!!