The Truth About Anti-Vaccination: A Scientific Look
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- It's true that less children in the United States are getting vaccinated. What is causing these lower vaccination numbers, and what are some of the myths and fears around vaccination? In this episode of SciShow, we'll break down the science of the anti-vax movement and discuss what effects it truly has on the health of our society.
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Sources:
Meta-Analysis of the Safety of Vaccines: pediatrics.aappublications.org...
The Internet and the Psychology of Vaccination Decisions: www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewA...
Naturalness Bias: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18...
Omission Bias and Vaccines: mdm.sagepub.com/content/14/2/118
Difficulty in changing minds once they’re made: pediatrics.aappublications.org...
Onset Patterns of Autism: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
Bad is Stronger than Good - Negativity Bias: assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/715...
Parental Vaccine Decision Making: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24...
Read more about Risk Perception: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_pe...
And Explanatory Style: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explana...
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If you think about it, people who are vaccinated have a higher chance of growing up with austim
But you actually have to grow up for that to happen
This right here. Of course we have an increase in certain disorders if we make those individuals be able to survive.
ももこ〜 exactly
Logic humor lol I love it
People that are not vaccinated don't die and im not even anti-vaccine but i know a lot of people who have lived a healthy life without it
Roasted
My dad had an autoimmune reaction to a vaccine given by the military that made him unable to continue working, or even walk up and down stairs or stay standing for long periods of time (it's better now, since there are newer medicines that control his symptoms with fewer side effects). It turns out they had given him and the other people on the base much higher doses and with far shorter intervals between shots than is recommended. So I have a legitimate reason to be cautious of vaccines. And you know what? Even with that my whole family keeps up to date on our vaccines, because we know that what happened to my dad wasn't the fault of vaccine, it was doctors trying to rush things and breaking protocols that are in place for a reason. I have no sympathy for people who claim that vaccines are bad for people because a TV celebrity told them so. I don't let them off the hook with the excuse that they are just ignorant. They are willfully ignoring tremendous amounts of data that almost irrefutably prove them wrong, and they put their lives, their children's lives, and everyone else's lives at risk because of it.
Thank you for not letting personal bias get in the way of the health of you family
You are the real MVP ;_;
Well, your getting stab with chemicals, there are going to be risks. And people can have allergic reactions to just about anything
Your dad's autoimmune reaction is even more of a reason for others to get their vaccines. With more people vaccinated, people who can't vaccines for whatever will be at less risk in their community.
Emma Crossman he handles normal vaccines just fine, it was just that one specific set they gave him that they administered incorrectly that went wrong
JW Fuentes ????
I thought this video came out this week, but now I see that it's 6 years old, and even more relevant.
Isn't that terrifying? I see 4K dislikes. I was just happy to see that the likes way outnumbered them. I've seen people die because of their reliance on "natural" cures. Everything is natural! What else would it be? Supernatural? (Although supernatural cures would be awesome, a la Harry Potter! But I digress.) . I'm not crazy about the pharmaceuticals "industry" myself, but since most of this tech is developed with public money at universities, and it wouldn't be in the drug company's best interests to kill their customers, most drugs are pretty safe.
@@hollyw9566 yeah but covid vaccines are entirely different science than the standard vaccines
Except it's not "entirely different science." It's research that has been worked on for decades. And there aren't "different sciences," just people without a scientific background claiming other strategies work better.
Whoa, I hadn't noticed that! It showed in my feed today, so I assumed it was recent as well.
@Fiona Gibbs Yes. But that isn't the point of the video.
Autistic person here- I just gotta say that the fact that parents would rather their child/children suffer and/or die from a preventable illness than have autism is very sad. Vaccines don't cause autism, but these people believe they do, and they still choose preventable illness. Autism is not a horrible thing, autistic people are just as valuable and worthy as any other human. I know this video is old, but it's still very relavant and the misinformation surrounding both vaccines and autism is terrifying.
yes
I agree. It’s also frustrating as a parent when people com at us from three sides of “your child has a speech delay because of you” and “your child is like this because you vaccinated them” and them “well we don’t know why she’s not talking but we’ll say autism for now”.
Grouping diagnoses together as a best guess is damaging too. But by no means is that making me not vaccinate my kid. I’ll love her no matter what. But we shouldn’t need a diagnoses for early interventions. Everyone neurotypical or neurodivergent deserve help.
I hope your parents support you as you are 🥰
you're not autistic bro lol
I definitely agree with that on an individual basis, but in terms of society, if there IS something responsible for higher rates of autism (not vaccines, obviously), then it's probably best to do something about it, since I'm not sure how well society as a whole would function if everyone was autistic... Not that there is anything wrong with it, but just that if everyone was that way, it might make things more difficult.
As far as I am aware, I am not on the current autism spectrum, but I'm also not "neurotypical" considering that I do have ADHD and OCD, and I can only imagine how dysfunctional society would be if none of us could concentrate on anything or go a day without obsessive anxiety, where even the medication to offset one of them worsens the symptoms of the other... It's a source of suffering for me personally, and if I could choose to have a "normal" brain, then I would rather just do that. But, unfortunately, it's not a choice.
@@dwntherabbithole9785 I know right lol
As the son of an "all natural" non-vaccine, no gmo, all organic mother. When I was in middle school I noticed that I was the only kid in any of my classes that had a special paper that said I didn't need to be vaccinated, I thought it was because I was special or immune for some time, after that I asked about it and the answer I got from my mother was so abstract and disconnected from science that I asked my health teacher who explained the majority of how vaccinations worked, she also had me do a lot of research on the subject through trusted scientific websites rather than just having me google vaccination, so that I could learn about it myself. In the 8th grade I did a project for the science fare about how vaccinations have some of the most important pros and few of any cons. During the time I spent researching vaccines I was becoming more and more worried about not being vaccinated myself, but every time I asked my mother to get me vaccinated she told be that I would puff up and get really sick, even though I knew this wasn't true, I tried to convince her, she wouldn't allow her 14 year kid the choice to get vaccinated for very real diseases because of very fraudulent reasons. At least on my 16th birthday I could overrule the medical decisions of my legal guardian and on the day I turned 16 I got 4 different shots that prevented 7 different ailments, since I started the vaccination process so late in my life i'm still going to be having them when i'm in my late 20s, i'm 23 and got accepted into a military aeronautical engineering position in the air force and I'm unable to join until I have all my vaccinations. It should be considered child abuse to prevent your child from getting vaccinations.
good for you elijah
"few of any cons" They do exist, "if any" raises the impossible idea that perhaps there are zero side effects of this medical procedure. But the government has a fund for these "cons", and have paid out billions of dollars to vaccine damaged children
Des Troya to prevent your country from having outbreaks like Africa? Really?, it sure is comfortable living in a 1st world country that has never seen any outbreaks during their lifetime
the biggest and as far as i know only con to vaccines is that a very small amount of people (about 1 in a million) get an allergic reaction but that is still not a big problem most of the time because it is almost always just some discomfort and can easily be solved by medication
+Aaron Tan My point is that it has potential risks which should be considered, and it is irresponsible for propagandists to call vaccines perfectly safe
I hate how autism is treated like a fate worse than death. Sure, low-functioning autism is pretty bad, but high functioning autism, which almost certainly is far more common, isn't actually a bad thing. I'd say that individuals with high-functioning autism may even be at an advantage in some cases.
Low functioning autism is unfortunately much more common
victoneter
I don't know about that. It's estimated based on how frequently people get diagnosed that ~1/68 people are on the spectrum, but there was a study from South Korea a while back showing that if everyone went to get tested, because of how mild the symptoms for HFA can be, the rate goes up to about 1/30, the majority of which are high-functioning.
Most people I know who are on the spectrum (high functioning specifically) didn't get diagnosed until they were teenagers because of just how mild their symptoms were, and many of them have undiagnosed family members who behave almost identically.
victoneter or diagnosed more.
victoneter I doubt, but considering you can't prove it and I can't, we must agree to wait for proof.
It's not worse than death but it sucks
What a shame that the only group of people that needs to see this would consciously do their utmost to ignore it.
Lol hi. If it makes u feel any better, i am part of this group that you speak of and i still watched this video and as i usually do, will share this info with others. There are definitely alot of open-minded people, like myself, willing to watch and learn about the many sides of an argument. They, like all others, just simply choose to stand by what works best for them. The thing that i feel comes into play the most is when a group believes that their version is RIGHT because ‘science’ or because of their biases as mentioned in this video. It is my belief that ALL answers and responses are valid and that science, like literally everything else in Life, is subject to the perspective of he/she that perceives it☺️. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” Either, way, you and i are brethren and for that simple reason, i love you. I hope that wherever you are in the world, and whatever you are doing, that you are choosing happiness and Love. 💖
That sounds like your [the op's] own cognitive biases to me. To me it looks like the title is very carefully chosen to appeal to readers from both extremes of the debate.
People don't click or not click on videos like this because of the content. They choose to or not to based on their disgust for the assholes in the comment section. Case in point.... See your own comment.
I like that the title is almost clickbait for them though
@@MsHoneyBBQ Science is not subject to the perspective, since science is not an opinion or decision. Science is based on true evidence and facts, but you can choose to believe them or not.
The bottom line is there is no trust left. Decades of manipulative commercialism has left everyone victimized by things we don't fully understand. The consensus should be to repair this trust and remove potential corruption or conflicting interests.
When I was a little kid I watched "Land Before Time" and in one of them the river was drying up and the angry Triceratops just kept blaming different thing, accusing in no real logical way. The Brachiosaurus said to him, "it doesn't have to be anyone's fault." The Triceratops responded, "but it has to be someone's fault right?" Which it turns out that a bad storm had dislodged a rock or something and it was blocking the river way up the mountain.
All this reminds me of something I learned when I was like 7 years old, so if the rest of the world could catch up, that would be great.
Cool anecdote, I watched that with my Son last night.
Those movies are some of the best things your child can watch my man.
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I bet Land Before Time is immensely more educational than Fox News.
Land before time was a childhood staple for me :D It greatly impacted my personality in many positive ways. Great kids show/movies.
parent: i will not get my child vaccinated
measles/polio: *it's free real estate*
THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE !
Polio:OHMIAWA MU MO SHINDARU
yo legs:NANI!
@@shinedog2156 ur lungs too
I think I should be ashamed of how much that made me laugh
Btw u forgot small pox
Somehow my gut feeling is telling me an Antivaxxer saw this video, saw that Hank said something they didn't like or understand and immediately disliked the video. They seem like the type to just not completely digest the information given to them.
it all jus part of the comnulist agender to ban freedumb,, bruther , the gubermint putin real babies in chicken nuggies from mcdonals
Explain the explosion of Autism after policy changes made in 1989, bring the receipts with you, just the facts, just the science, thanks.
@@PilotOdyssey Correlation isn't causation. Explain why sea levels have been rising ever since the disappearance of pirates. Obviously, it must be because pirates were responsible for keeping sea levels stable, rather than the fact that industrialization made pirates obsolete at the same time as it started rapidly melting the ice caps.
Reality is complex, and there are many factors that you avoid taking into consideration by starting off with the assumption that vaccines must be to blame. Despite many years of these claims, there is still no empirical evidence to support a direct link between vaccines and autism. It could just as easily be caused by the pesticides and preservatives that our beloved corporate overlords have been putting into our food for the past few decades. It could be the widespread use of prescription medications while pregnant. It could be any number of things, and there is not enough data to conclusively prove any one of them. So, there is no logical reason whatsoever to latch onto vaccines in particular.
You're asking for proof against your claim, but proving the non-existence of evidence is just like proving the non-existence of unicorns. I can't show you a non-unicorn, in order to prove that there are no unicorns. So, it is a nonsensical thing to ask for.
The comment above me :/
@@PilotOdyssey 0:57
Watch the video.
A giant man-eating squirrel would be TERRIFYING. I don't need to see one to know that!
And you would be correct. That WOULD be terrifying. But the problem isn't in perceiving the threat as terrifying. The problem is in perceiving the threat as REAL. Since no one alive has ever seen one we all perceive the threat as a myth. Just a many do with measles and polio and smallpox. How bad could a world war with a genocidal despot really be??
Vaccines won't help against that (just guessing), but I have an elephant gun that might.
It's funny, I am from Brazil and since I was a baby, I took all the vaccines I can get and should get and I am completely fine. I have never heard of vaccines giving Autism until I came here to the U.S. and I am surprised at how U.S. citizens think that when Brazil citizens who don't think that, and on top of that, they live in a country with a lesser medical care.
Everything is a conspiracy in the U.S.
Carson Troeh illominarty
Billy Mays In Brazil, I am assuming that you, or certainly your parents at least, have seen people suffer from vaccine preventable diseases. Like Hank said, that personal experience has a huge effect on shaping the thought process of everyone.
teehee1604 Although that is true, I support and believe in vaccines because I have never actually seen a case where vaccines have done something bad. While I do have a friend with a son that got autism from a vaccine, it was apparently the nurse's fault and a fault in the make up of the vaccine.
Billy Mays Or maybe he *didn't* get autism from the vaccine and the two are not linked. It's like saying "Fred eats more ice-cream than John and Fred got skin cancer, so ice-cream must cause skin cancer", when in fact both are the result of a third variable - time spent in the sun. Correlation does not equal causation!
Honestly it's a shame that people are more worried about their kid having or developing autism as opposed to their kid possibly dying from not being vaccinated.
Actually the WHOLE family could die if the illness is very contagious and the bug lethal.
autism can be horrid
Dying from some virus that is easily preventable is arguably worse.
sometimes people prefer to die to avoid horrid things. Also, certainly horrid > uncertainly horrid
They'd rather there kids die than deal with a kid with autism, i'm not saying it gives you autism.
As someone who has autism, it is so insanely scary how much people hate autistic people. Like the lengths I’ve seen parents go to prevent their kid from getting autism is something I will never understand. And the lengths I’ve seen parents go to “cure” their child with autism is inhumane. We’re human beings with thoughts and feelings, we’re not something that needs to be “fixed”.
That kind of view is called interpersonal ableism. Parents with autistic children deny that their kid is autistic and would try anything to "cure" them. I've seen and experienced this before.
@@kellster333you’re dead wrong! I have autism, and am extremely happy that I had the mother I had. Why, I hear you asking? Because what you are referring to is those who are parenting extremely poorly. A good parent will ABSOLUTELY NOT try to “fix” or “cure” the child; a good parent will look for how to better their child’s life. My mother was, of course the latter: she absolutely never wanted to “cure” me. So to say that all parents with children with autism want to “cure’” their child or children with autism, is so extremely stereotypical, it makes me sick! Also, news flash for you: autistics grow up with autism. This disorder is lifelong. Therefore, the individual with autism’s quality of life can and is usually diminished just as soon as they turn 18 years, and want to experience life; I.e., moving out, and expiring holding a job, or go to college. A good parent aids in finding the very best quality of life for their child (now adult) with autism. My mother had, and I am quite content with what she had left behind for me as the very best services and help absolutely anyone with autism could ever wish for. I am an advocate for the disorder, trained. So, whatever your “comeback” to me is to this comment from you is, will not phase me.
@@katherinetaylor9886 I'm sorry if I offended you. As someone who grew up in an ableist household, I got to say, it took years for me to finally acknowledge that I had autism.
is it so bad to not want a handicapped kid for 40 years?
@@dallassegno It's a possibility for everyone who has children. You should consider that, if you want kids, there is a chance that your child may be disabled. If your child being disabled is a deal-breaker for you, you should reconsider having kids. Also, autism is a spectrum. There are tons of autistic adults living independent, fulfilling lives.
This video is sorely needed today, so much more than five years ago...
except sadly would be even less likely to persuade the anti vaxers today than back then .
The people who think that going All natural is a good thing forget about the most important natural thing. Natural selection.
I hope natural selection takes them out
Ladies and gentlemen
*we gottem*
@@knocknockify Takes who out exactly?
Anti vaxxers. Saldy, being anti-vaccine isn't only bad for the individual, it's bad for the population, so, anti-vaxxers are more likely to die but they're gonna take millions of people with them.
Also a lethal dose of Cyanide it's all natural
I like how he says "humans are complicated" instead of "humans are idiots". Very classy.
ThisUserIsDumb I like your profile picture.
it's also crazy how this rationale could explain every whacko group out there - flat earther's, white supremacists, people who actually think there are TWO Olsen twins when in fact it's just one woman moving back and forth really fast... the list goes on
HUMANS ARE FUCKIN' IDIOTS
Humans are complicated idiots.
this is still the best comment ever....
My favorite theory about historical cases is that the myth of the "changeling" child is a result of autism.
I’m pretty sure I’ve read that they used to leave “changing” children in the woods to die. And that this was even encouraged by people as “prestigious” as Martin Luther
We need to teach kids how to find, read, and understand credible sources from all different media: websites, news publications, academic journals, etc.
I agree but seems too many are too lazy or just get info from one source.
We can't expect them to do that kind of research for every issue, but the big ones of the day require due diligence.
Thomas Edison said this about thinking. "5% of the people think; 10% of the people think they think; and the other 85% would rather die than think." I would amend it to 5% of the people think, and the other 85% haven't a clue how to think, and even if they did, they wouldn't do it.
And America bring back the Fairness Doctrine Act.
Don't read the comments. Trust me. Leave before it's too late.
Too late
I hope you at least made some popcorn for the rest of us.
WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN!?
Blake Bartenbach Don't worry bro i got some armor on
If that "armor" involves you sucking down every vaccine and pharmaceutical the paid for doctors and scientists push your way, don't count on living a long and productive life.
As a high functioning autistic individual, it feels offensive sometimes when people view autism developing in their child as the end of the world. As far as I understand the data, the vast majority of people with the disorder are high enough functioning to learn to adapt to the outside world, it just generally takes some therapy to get there sometimes.
@@rugrat1235 autism is a spectrum. There a people with it that you may not realize have it, and there people who have it real bad and can't talk aswell as other problems, and there is every in between.
There are primarily two types of well known autisms...ASD, as talked about in the video, and Asperger Syndrome, a high functioning version which is the version I can only assume you're speaking of, usually Aspergers would simply be played off as someone being incredibly coy or introverted, and while that may be true, that's all it ever was before newer ways of diagnosing Autism came about, hence why there seemingly is a rise in autism rates. I know this since I had dealt with this to a lesser extent, I'm borderline Aspergers and I'd just like to say I share your frustration..
E. Paige Sergent you probably didn’t even do any research yourself and your being like the “YOU MEDIOCRE PEICE OF SH*T” guy
As someone who regularly interacts with autistic children, sometimes we need to learn to adapt to autistic people as well. They're generally rather sweet, nice people they just play by a different set of rules so to speak.
Ulrichthedragonslyer i think that Page understand the problem but the main poster who has autism does not understand how extreme many cases are. Having daily seizure multiple times a day, smearing feces on walls and body, no ability to talk, or walk, or communicate, attacking people in rage, being awake all night and sleeping during the day, no ability to take care of themselves on the most basic level are all quite common conditions to name just a few.
People made a fermented alcohol....
Ohh it's natural.... let's drink this as much as we can because it's natural
It makes me happy to know somebody out there is keeping it real and science-based and not bashing on people for their flaws. This is way more productive than most vaccine ads. Videos like this make people think about themselves and their biases for once. That's where real progress starts. Thanks Hank.
This video is 6 years old. People have been hearing this. But all of a sudden they would prefer to listen to anecdotal evidence because it makes sense.
Except that there was no science at all in this video. He did not even mention the fact early vaccines were loaded with mercury, (Thimerosal), why, and what that did.
Kid: when I grow up I--
Anti-Vax Mom: Imma stop you right there.
Slow down there buckaroo
X to doubt
Stolen meme
So true
3, take it or leave it
Oh yes the naturalness bias. Because if it came straight from the earth it must be healthy right? On that note I have stopped drinking Mountain Dew and have switched to crude oil because that comes from the earth; it is natural.
@@Based-wn9jg funny thing is, there is something natural, one of the if not, the most deadly 'living' things on the planet that if we consume if healthy for us, though it's not a virus it's close to one ya might say.
I will stop eating hot dogs and replace them with RAW ONIONS! They are plant based so they must be perfectly healthy and there cannot be any problems with eating onions raw.
Rhys Logan I also have stopped drinking Pepsi in place of turpentine because it comes from the distillation of pine tree resin, which is all natural. I also eat raw meat now because I’m all natural and I’m a mammal, and other mammals eat their meat raw.
pigl4t1 Wait, are raw onions supposed to be bad?
@@Lolzilol123 If they are, I died 35 years ago.
I really just thought this was new because it popped up and is insanely relevant right now.
I'm on the spectrum and it doesn't feel like a disability to me. I realize I'm "different" but I honestly dont care what people think.
This was a good video. Luvzya Hank 😘
Same
same, i'd rather have some issues communicating and be more sensitive to sound than most people than die of a preventable disease. i'm aware that it's a spectrum and that many people on different parts of it have a harder time dealing with the way the world is than i do, but i think a lot of people forget that a considerable amount of autistic people are not that incredibly different from them and that it's better to become more understanding of different ways people's minds can work than to bring polio back.
Your not disabled your differently abled
@@mrdirtslife2688 both is sometimes the answer. Yes, it is foolish to judge a fish by how well it climbs trees, however you can be differently able and still disabled at the same time from autism. I say this as a "high functioning" autist that can mask relatively well, but sometimes the autism directly prevents you from things even when judged by the standards of being differently able. Which is why the label high functioning feels insufficient, but yeah. Fun fact, according to a study autists on average are far likely to actually adhere to their moral code at all times, while neurotypical people are more likely to break their moral code if it gives them advantages and nobody will know they did it. We are basically don't arrogantly think of ourselves as some special magical exception to the rules but actually understand the consequences.
Same! There are always going to be struggles but I wouldn’t trade my brain for a neurotypical one ever. The struggles have never even come close to outweighing the good 💖
Me: * Has autism. *
Doctor: * Vaccinates me. *
Me: **LEVEL UP**
Lol
Me too 😅
Gold!
@@TheCrochetCritters Thanks.
Lol these comments lol
Your explanation of cognitive bias is making sense to my cognitive bias.
Well. That’s cuz you’re smart enough to understand. We need to trust the scientists.
They saved us from those that told us to trust the church, so we gotta trust them.
Especially the soft science of psychology. They need trust now more than ever.
Keep it science comrade.
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 I know what you're saying, but the whole point of science is not to trust individual scientists, but to have confidence in the system of science as a whole....
joe public
I found khan university videos on this topic. In those videos, Wakefield’s argument is broken down, precisely what he claimed and found through his study. The second video about why he’s wrong.
Sharing that sort of information arms someone who arguing with a family member about whether to vaccinate. After watching this video, all a person could do in that situation is shake their head at how dumb their family is being.
If someone were on the fence and watched this video, two options. The person is weak minded and decides to trust science, or the person is strong minded and distrust poor arguments so they don’t vaccinate.
This is a disservice to humanity. Total misrepresentation of science. Pure psy-ops.
good one andy!
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 It's not really about being smart or not
Just as you may think you are smart for "understanding" something, someone who is Anti Vax may think they are smart for believing in their arguments or someone else's
We should be worrying more about what is actually important than about calling out/praising who is right or who is smart, because we all might be much more (or less) biased than we realize
In other words, worrying about how to prevent or deal with autism and whether vaccines are actually beneficial or not, in evidence
Whether we "believe" or think we "understand" something, whether that is believing that vaccines are harmful or understanding they're necessary, doesn't really matter in the longrun
Thank you for sharing this. The biggest step toward working things out in a disagreement is to understand the other side
I saw another CZcams channel in which a woman took her dog to the vet. The vet said, "I have to give your dog a rabies vaccination - it's required by law." And the woman replied, "I don't want you to make my dog autistic!" :-[
How very, very pathetic. Especially when rabies is 100% fatal.
ms. goofy had too much time on facebook looking at vaxx stuff
If confused, you are far more likely to hurt yourself in confusion.
+princeZx9 I perceive the actions you completed in view.
THAT'S POKEMON LOGIC
+Alannah Munro lololololol
+Alannah Munro LMAO FOR SOME REASON I GOT IT RIGHT AWAY
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Lv.1 Vaccines
Lv.100 Essential oils
That's how anti-vax logic works.
Level.420 dead
You don't know what an essential oil is. Examples of the compounds present in common plant's volatile oil fraction include: Carvacrol, Thymol, Eugenol, Linalool.
Don't believe everything you hear just because everyone around you says it.
@@Acetyl53 bro press read more
Supplements and homeopathy fit in there to... who do you think funds this nonsense?
Paranormal Encyclopedia hahahaha! Bc big essential oil is right up there with pharma!! The adults are talking, hush.
It's sad to see America ordered 200% vaccines to population but only 50% are vaccinated. Most of the vaccines went expitrd and people in my country are literly fighting to get mRNA vaccines.
Haven't seen many of the videos on this channel, but all have had controversial titles but actually contained very high quality information and was presented in a way that didn't pick sides. Very nice to see that in a world of mudflinging between different perceived sides.
Everyone's about anti vaccination until their dog gets rabies
Except they should be keeping their dog indoors, not out playing with wild animals.
crazy808ish No, I'm going to let my dog out when she has to shit. And i can't stop her from chasing an infected cat so, I'll get her vaccinated. Dogs don't live shorter lives by being vaccinated
Buzz Killington That is true. Pets have it way worse than humans.
crazy808ish i know but, being vaccinated isn't a reason
Buzz Killington True. Their food probably is #1.
we need to teach social psychology and critical thinking in school. give people the tools to make informed decisions, whatever the future is like
They do teach that,you can take psychology classes and I’m pretty sure some schools put critical thinking into the outcomes of many subjects
me me True, our school system isn’t great at all. It needs change.
I have been saying that forever!!! We need to be taught how to see the world in the most objective way possible. It should be mandatory, not optional.
We're humans. We're not supposed to be smart or anything that scares me make it go away.
(Crawls into safety bubble)
Manipulation of social psychology and a forced lack of critical thinking are the backbone of our school system... which is in place to keep people in line, not to create a more intelligent society.
So unfortunately, nurturing critical thinking tendencies is the exact opposite of the purpose of school, and will never be welcome in the system. Not without entirely restructuring it and it's purpose, that is.
In short: School is not a place for smart people...
Anti-vaccinators: 'dont give their kids vaccs'
Kid: 'Has autism anyway'
Anti Vac: Imma pretend i didn't say that
I'm not sure you are right, but this could be an excellent subject for research. Perhaps it has already been done. Anybody know?
*see
Do I trust vaccines 100%?
No.
Am I vaccinated?
Yes.
Am I on the autistic spectrum?
Yes.
Do I dislike the way I am?
No.
Have I had measles, mumps, or rubella?
No.
Am I glad that I'm vaccinated?
Yes.
If I had kids would I have them vaccinated?
Yes.
I think that about covers it.
I'm highly functional autistic. I don't think believing vaccines causes Autism or negativity effect the immune system. And it doesn't means you don't expect and value people with Autism. That's a logical fallacy.
Do you always take vaccines with no long term studies?
@@MentalDeviant There is a lot of lack of logic going on these days. I just try to love and accept myself as is. And I try to do the same for others. And do with my health what seems right to me. And leave others to do what they feel is right for them. I think it would be a better world if people would not fight as much and accept each other more. But that's just my opinion. To each their own. ✌
@@migueltigrelazo I haven't had a need to until now. I also haven't lived in a time with a novel virus until now. We make the best decisions that we can under the circumstances. Like I basically said in my other responce, live and let live. To each their own. ✌
I don't blame the anti-vaxxers, I blame education. As mentioned here (and pointed out extremely well graphically), humans are full of cognitive biases. We absolutely suck at collecting and analyzing and understanding data unless we systematically force ourselves to do it right. So critical thinking is a skill that must be learned...and yet we don't teach kids how to do that. At least where I went to school, I wasn't able to take any psychology, logic, or critical thinking courses until uni. That means I had 18 years in which, if I hadn't been personally interested in the subjects beforehand, I would never have learned how to think. I mean, sure, we learn the scientific method relatively early (which is great!), but we're convinced it's only something that doctors and lab techs do. Humans innately overestimate our mental abilities, and until we learn how many (many, many, many) different ways our brains lie to us, we trust ourselves more than the facts. (This is the basis for why democracy is generally considered the best form of government, though it's not...but I digress.)
So really, I think we need to be teaching children about psychology and logic and critical thinking skills long before they turn 18. As in, starting at least in 6th grade, if not primary school.
I personally think the world would be a much better place if public schools required critical thinking and/or basic philosophy classes. In matter of fact im writing a persuasive speech to be presented for my debate club relatively soon.
Dylan Ost
Good luck! :D
Dylan Ost My high school does offer philosophy and psychology classes to anyone interested. However, they are not mandatory, which is sad. I personally find the thought process quite interesting.
Raptor980187
You are at a lucky school.
IceMetalPunk Eh, the education is nice, but the kids here suck. Though, that is for a new topic for another day.
Where I come from it's considered child abuse not to vaccinate your kids.
You could actually face some jail time for disregarding basic human rights. (Well it's basic in my mind anyway)
That means you live in a smart country
Leo The Viking What country is that?
Good country. Harsh, but good.
What is wrong with you guys? Do you not know that there has never been a real study of vaccines? Where you get 100 ppl take 50 n give them the vaccinations and then give the other 50 a placebo! Never been done!!!!!!!!!! How can you talk about anti vaxers and human rights being tooken away from them? Last time i checked human rights is to make a choice for thyself. Now ask yourself why you never heard of the CDC whistleblower who did the last test to see a connection between the MMR vaccine n autism, he said they hid data because there was evidence that linked the vaccine to autism and has the documents to prove it. Look it up!!! How in the world are you pro vaccines when 1 in 41 boys have autism in America and all of our congressmen are asking the cdc are they doing studies on the most biggest epidemic in modern times, amd they are not!!! Countless amounts of parents witness their child develop normally walking and talking then losing all previous abilities and going into seizures and banging their head off the walls directly after the mmr vaccine. Have you ever seen the congressional hearings about vaccines n autism? So if your pro vaccines point me to one study they did as a control study, 50 get it 50 dont wheres it at? Every drug has to go threw that testing why not vaccines? Ever heard of vaccine court? Vaccine companies are immune to being sued, cost the tax payers billions to pay the vaccine injured families, congress will tell you that! Use your brain, 1 in 5 kids have a learning disability!! America has the #1 infant death rate within a year of being born and 1 day olds aswell, we lead the world with infant deaths!!!! Oh yea guess what, we give the most vaccines in the world!!!! Sometimes 9 in one day to a little child!!! Whats wrong with you ppl? Please watch what your congressmen are saying to the CDC face to face! You people are voluntarily dumbing down the nation. In NJ 1 in 29 kids have autism! R u kidding me? 1 in 29??? Thats damn near the beginning of the end of NJ. When they get older you know how much its gonna cost to take care of all the autistic adults after there parents die and family cant do it no more?
Jackie Crone how dumb can you be? Studies show? Theres not one study the CDC has done between vaccinated and non vaccinated.. I hope the kids you teach can think for themselves and say hey do you have those studies?
This argument was based on "there are no varying quality vaccines" and "anti-vaxxers only care about autism".
I only wish this topic can be treated with utmost seriousness, since things have become very different these days.
To me it doesn't matter what causes autism as my wife has it and I love her regardless of how she got it.
3.1k people disliked this video...3100 people said “ahh screw science, it’s full of crap anyway”...THATS TERRIFYING
If they disliked the video it doesn't mean they disliked the information. It can be bunch of other reasons like the guy talking or the way he made a video. But yeah, those people are scary..
There's no one who says "ah, screw science" better than Flat Earthers!
I'm scientifically literate and I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but i don't like this video... This video doesn't address the fact that big pharma's report card isn't exactly great when it comes to quality control and "for profit" corner cutting.
Do you really trust your government to do what's best for you? The pharmaceutical companies are making billions off the vaccines and their lobbyists are paying off the politicians to promote vaccinations. As with everything, follow the money. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourself.
Jun Gleno honestly they’d be making more money by not having vaccines and just letting people get sick. $5 shot vs $5000 medical bill...
I have autism and I find it so funny when people say vaccines cause autism
My thoughts exactly lol
What is the cause then?
+Des Troya Genetics, obviously. It's not rocket science.
Des Troya
I've seen your comments. Correlation =/= Causation. Most of the time, Autism can be diagnosed after a child was supposed to get a lot of vaccines, which is why people think that vaccines cause autism. They later search it up, find the first google result to confirm it, and then proceed to think that vaccines cause Autism. This does not apply for every anti-vaxxer, of course.
I have Autism myself, and I find it extremely insulting that one would choose possible death over Autism.
Same. I have ASD and when it is considered something so horrible and terrible it frustrates me. I live with it everyday and would prefer it a thousand times over to any disease I could get from not being vaccinated.
Education and kindness is how we get others to see our POV. Well done Hank as well as the rest of the sci show cast.
This wasn’t a science based video, it’s video on perception of reality which actual reality isn’t discussed no disapproving a claim with evidence just judgements on people who question the “science”.. talk about the 35 Ingredients in the “mandatory jabs”
That's what I'm saying he said we'll get into the science but not once did . What are the effects of aluminum and mercury long term and the possible harm
@@ajcardenas8691
What are the effects of cell phone use in 50 years?
How come you idiot anti-vaxxers are focused on theoretical "long term effects" that you have no proof could even happen and can never be proven?
With the amount of misinformation out there now readily accessible to people through the internet, I think now's the time for public education to start incorporating real critical thinking into the curriculum. Teaching kids about how to actually assess the information that they're constantly bombarded with through social media, and how their own brain can hold onto ideas that aren't necessarily true.
Anti vaxxers will lose it
@Shrek LMAO the funniest thing about those people is how narcissistic it is to believe that what they believe after reading something on Facebook has more credibility than a doctor or biologist
Yes please because the older generation missed that boat. Especially Generation X, that’s the generation who support the most conspiracy theorist. And if you don’t believe me pay attention and observe.
@@maddie9185 ya i quit facebook because i realized the majority of the people i went to school with were idiots.
Young people are much less anti-vax than older people, in my experience
This fits my personal biases.
Me
😂
That's hilarious
Good point
🤣
What Hank said: “It turns out, humans are complicated…”
What I think Hank meant: “As we all know, humans are stupid.”
"We objectively believe the universe is amazing and fantastic" - I agree with this part of the statement "amazing and fantastic" from my cognitive bias but I argue this is not objective, but a subjective observation, or an opinion. :)
Could not see the curvature of the earth in this video. Earth is obviously flat.
You have to look through the fish bowl
Haha I was thinking the same thing, anti-vaxxers are very likely also flat earthers.
vaccines cause earth to be flat
why is the fbi here
The earth is definitely flat. That's why people have gone to the moon hahahahhahahahhaha.
I didn't vaccinate my kids and the ones that lived turned out fine!
Because of herd immunity because other people getting vaccinated
troll or flat earth moron.
@@zookdom3347 Whoosh
@@Alexagrigorieff no
@@buildawall5803 yes
It's not that autism is "increasing" among the general population, we're just finally realizing what it is, and realizing it's an extremely broad spectrum that would have gone undiagnosed years ago.
Recommended this in 2021. Very depressing how little things have changed/actually gotten worse...
Ah crap I got polio. *BuT AtlEaST i dOnT haVE AutIsM*
Or ass-burgers
@@buildawall5803 There was a story some time ago on Reddit from some tattooist who had an Asperger's sufferer come in and want a picture of a hamburger tattooed to his butt cheek. It was a...unique request, to say the least, and the tattooist was reluctant, and finally said that the guy should wait one year, and if he felt as strongly one year from that date as he did right then, then they'd happily do his tattoo for him. Sure enough, one year later, the guy came strolling back in, got his tattoo, and walked out pleased as punch.
@@ZeoViolet Legends has it he is still WORKING A BURGER KING
@@buildawall5803 I have that actually and I always thought the name was funny
Lmfao right?
I always ask these idiots if they'd rather have an autistic child or a dead one.
I have yet to get an answer.
CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION!!!!!
at least someone gets it
And in this case there doesn't even seem to be correlation!!!
kellybroganmd.com/cdc-youre-fired-autism-coverup-exposed/
Justin Dolan
When you cant produce a single research paper in yars, and all you tout as proof are silly conspiracy theories, you know you have lost! So congrats on that!
If you (or anyone else concerned) did your own research you would find scientific research by the CDC that made an undeniable link to autism. Even just reading the insert with a vaccines you can see the potential for damage.
Whoah, this video is six years old in 2022 and we need it more than ever!
EVEN IF vaccines caused autism, I'd rather my child be autistic than crippled by polio or permanently scarred by smallpox or dead from measles so 🤷🏻♀️
Take that anti-science people... we'll use science to understand you! Muhahahaha!
It would be the exact same video.
***** He's basically saying that scientific people are using science to understand why non-scientific people choose to be non-scientific :)
Well these people aren't exactly anti-science, that would be absurd to say. They are simply people with their own ideas and doubts about the legibility and safety of vaccines, and the scientists and government behind it.
David Lam well, they are ignoring the scientific consensus when it comes to the subject of vaccination
***** did you even read the article you yourself linked to? it talks about specific ideas from certain branches of science being pseudo-scientific, for example "psychoanalysis"! "physics" would also be on the list, if one interpreted the article as you (wrongly) did
When I was 12 I had French Toast for breakfast and came down with the Flu shortly afterwards. They are in no way related but I didn't eat French Toast for 15 years after that.
@nikon12x42 That did happen, wasn't a joke. I understand, you're just not intelligent enough to get the difference between real life and a joke.
Same with my experience. Pasta and clams and i got intestinal flu
I ate chick fil-a twice and got very nauseous both times. Due to that I refused to eat chick fil-a again, after years of not eating it one day I decided to try it. Nothing happened, and I am willing to eat it again.
@@justinraphael3838 I have had that a lot. I take a medicine which makes me feel slightly sick every week, and if I eat something before I take the medicine I don't want to eat it for a really long time after that. This happens very often, and I know that it's the medicine, not the food, but for some reason I still don't want to eat it.
@@Fawful-bg5zf well, Hepatitis A is associated with consuming raw clams... ;)
One thing I find weird is that some people I know are adamantly opposed to vaccinations for themselves and their children... but vaccinate their pets almost religiously. What's that about?
Cognitive dissonance of course. 🤣
Seriously?
True, that's weird.
Cognitive bias is exactly why the scientific method was developed and why it is so critical. The fact a presenter of information may be a scientist does NOT mean their information is not biased! Peer review of results is a critical step to help ensure the results are non-biased.
Absolutely. The difference between legitimate science and "pseudoscience" = is *WHO* establishes validity. In pseudoscience such as drives vaccine opposition the individual rather than the evidence is supposedly determining what is real and hence true. Yet as you alluded to the individual is subject to bias and error of deduction. So *OUTSIDE* validation is required to filter out all that subjective analysis.
p.s. - this applies to Dunning-Kruger as well as circular reasoning. Because the person believes only what they believe + they lack a background in most cases to discern what is credible or not in esoteric matters = false sense of validity premised upon ignorance - aka Dunning-Kruger. Meanwhile because they reject "outside" information to only accede to what they alone believe = they are trapped in a fictional world of circular reasoning.
_"Things are supposedly true and hence real because they believe them to be such = and because they believe them to be such things therefore must be true and hence real............and round and round they go"_
I agree. Test and retest. Study the significance of the data!
In addition, usually a scientist is fully aware he or she is biased. In contrast to people who believe something just to be true, a scientist knows exactly well that he could be wrong. So good scientists are not mad when proven wrong but curious because new research fields were opened - if the arguments are good.
You're clueless. Peer review is a gatekeeping operation of lies and biases.
@@shakdidagalimal "Peer review is a gatekeeping operation of lies and biases." - stated with nothing backing it up whatsoever, without the slightest awareness of the hypocrisy and level of projection.
Please, more. I can use a good laugh!
As an autistic adult, can I add two very critical additions to this specifically in regards to the vaccines cause autism thing?
1. Every time someone says this, they're telling me, an autistic adult, that they'd rather risk their child dying of a preventable disease than become like me. Maybe not intentionally, but that's what they're saying. Imagine that's being applied to some attribute you have, that someone would rather their innocent child getting a deadly disease than be like you. You as a person.
2. Autism is NOT an inherently bad outcome. Even the autistics who society see as severely disabled, the ones who are nonverbal and have learning disabilities, have by and large STRONGLY agreed that if there were a cure for autism they wouldn't want it (link at bottom of comment). We autistics, in general (and those of us who haven't been programmed to hate ourselves), like being autistic. It's not a disease, it's a state of being. It's who we are. Yes, there are challenges, I would never dream of implying that there aren't. I know how hard it was for my parents to raise me, and I know what it's like to be disabled because society wasn't built for me. I know. But that doesn't make it inherently a bad thing. Most autistics, given the right support and the ability to love themselves and play to their strengths, will grow up to be functional, happy people. In fact, many of us who don't, find ourselves struggling BECAUSE we've been taught to try to not be autistic and we're fighting ourselves in a world where we need to be supporting ourselves as much as possible to succeed.
To summarize my second point - again, I am NOT saying that autism isn't a difficulty. It can be disabling (though not always), and it can definitely be extremely hard on caregivers. I know firsthand. But painting it as a 100% problem or bad outcome instead of what it actually is - a way of being that isn't inherently bad but comes with it's own strengths and challenges - is not accurate nor is it helpful to all of us autistics who are FREQUENTLY harmed by people hating or fearing autism.
Link to the survey of LOTS of autistic and non-autistic people that resulted in nonverbal autistics/autistics with learning disabilities, agree that they don't want a cure: autisticnotweird.com/2018survey/
I'm waiting to get into a psychiatrist as I think I might be on the spectrum, but I've never understood this. would people rather have a child with challenges growing up than have a dead kid or a kid with severe brain damage caused by an entirely preventable disease?
@John Monday Please read resources from actually autistic people, such as Autisticnotweird, The Thinking Person's Guide to Autism, Musings of an Aspie, and so many more.
Here's a survey that specifically checked how "low functioning" autistics feel about a cure. We don't want it. autisticnotweird.com/2018survey/
I cannot explain why, so please look into others who have already articulated it. You've just told me that if people like me can be prevented, why not. Because I'm a person, I'm valid, and so is every other autistic person. You can't separate autism from the person's individuality.
And if that's not good enough for you, how about because most actually autistic individuals LIKE being autistic, or at the very least love our autistic selves, including what you label as "low functioning". Listen to the people who are actually living through the lens of autism, who are actually experiencing it firsthand.
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YES
We don't know if vaccinating kids can affect autism rates.
We do know that not vaccinating kids will affect death rates.
Given studies consistently show autism rates among the unvaccinated are identiv to among vaccinated I'd say your first point is off. But your second is spot on.
Autism causes vaccines, not the other way around
@@osmacar5331 that makes no sense
@@BenjoCovers r/whoosh
@@raneesahaney5147 r/whoosh
This makes sense.
My parents would always blame videos games whenever something bad would happen to me.
My parents had clear cognitive biased against video games
Finally a viable answer. Thank you for this. No baloney, no fear-mongering. All facts. This is why I love science. It's paints a much clearer picture about what's going on around us.
The Covid vaccines don’t prevent transmission. The vaccinated carry the same viral loads as the unvaxxed. Funny thing is the unvaxxed are 15-40% more likely to be symptomatic. The vaccinated spread unknowingly since they are 94% asymptomatic. Enjoy the propaganda that says “trust the science” without acknowledging actually knowing the science. This can all be found on the CDC website.
All facts.👍
@@roughtakes5491 The whole point of a vaccine is to boost the immune system to target and destroy a specific pathogen. Sure, that pathogen can still enter a vaccinated person's body, but rather than take hold, cause infection, and successfully multiply, it is rapidly targeted and destroyed (ideally).
The risk of unvaccinated people is this: every successful infection provides a pathogen with the opportunity to reproduce, and each reproduction is an opportunity to mutate. Therefore every successful infection is an opportunity for the virus to mutate beyond the effectiveness of current vaccines. In this scenario, everyone who has been vaccinated becomes susceptible to this hypothetical new strain, the unvaccinated person becoming patient-zero for another round of outbreaks.
This is why there was so much discussion surrounding the delta variant even after vaccines had become available in early 2021, because the scientific and medical communities were worried that a significant mutation would render the vaccines ineffective. Of course, this only fuels the fire because anti-vaxxers can look and say, "see, all those people were vaccinated and still got sick. Vaccines don't work." In reality, it's a result of ignorance of the mechanism by which vaccines function.
This is also why there is a new flu vaccine each fall- flu mutates quickly, and new strains are different enough to require a targeted vaccine. With smallpox and polio, Americans, and people worldwide, recognized the issue as significant, even if they didn't understand the science. Vaccination is a team effort, and we can't win if a large chunk of people refuse to be team players.
@@Lawrence330
FALSE.
The Covid vaccines are what immunologists call “leaky”.
Leaky vaccines do little to support your “team effort”.
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Article:
“‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses”
Healthline, 04/05/2019
My own bias is a memory bias. I'm old enough to remember when almost every street in Mosgiel had at least one child who would be crippled for life because of polio. The polio injection was the most painful, worse than that for tetanus (and I remember children dying of tetanus), but we all got it because we'd seen what it could prevent.
What's polio
I mean I know what it is but I'm a 2004 baby you know new to the generation bunch so some insite would help me
Mosgiel in NZ? I grew up down there back in the early 2000s
I worked as a trainee at a vet in my early 20's, and i saw what not vaccinating dogs can do. 8 puppies died from parvo within 2 days, it was just tragic to see them die one after another from dehydration, covered in their bloody diarhea... It wasn't that the owner was antivaxx or anything (and if she was, she probably wasn't anymore afterwards) but the year before that she said she thought vaccins were too expensive so she refused to get her 3 dogs vaccinated and as a result one of them carried parvo (adult dogs are way less likely to have symptoms) and infected the litter.
@@dawn1568 if the other dogs in the household just got vaccinated, 8 puppies wouldn't have died. I have never seen any dog or cat die as a result of vaccination, and we vaccinated them by the dozens or a regular day.
Deaths due to vaccins: 0
Deaths due to not vaccinating: 8 in two days, and i'm not even mentioning other cases that could have been prevented that barely made it through. In my time there, just 6 months, i saw so many sick animals that could have been prevented, and none of them were recently vaccinated, and no animal has been reported that it died after vaccinating.
Doctor: Would you like to get ur child vaccinated?
Mom: nah they cause autism
*3 weeks later*
*at little jimmys funeral*
Mom: Welp at least my child didn’t have autism!
XD
and it turns out they had autism but they did not diagnose it
3 weeks?
Jeez, they’re old!
Little jimmy got polio and died
Bee Phenix I’m still alive along with millions
Those people think they are better with a dead child than with an autistic child...
It's interesting watching this now that the neurodiversity movement has taken off. Me being neurodivergent myself and diagnosed in adulthood, it's very interesting how most of us late diagnosed people find that there is a massive negativity bias. If you don't show the negative traits, but show the positive ones, you don't get a diagnosis and have to pay thousands of dollars as an adult to get any diagnosis or help with things like autism or ADHD. For me, I had two sort of "losses" in ability, one at age 12 where I went from being top of my class in science, English, and arts, to being middle to lower of the class, and then again when I started university and had meltdowns at least 1-2 times a month, going as far as breaking my phone because I lost control, and uncontrollably crying when we got a new couch. But like you say, people blame it on the most recent event, so for me, it was all, "oh, that's just from the divorce (at age 5)," even when that clearly wasn't what was going on. My family on my mom's side has a history of ADHD and autism, with 8/10 of my cousins and myself being on some medication or put in special education at some point, and the other two I just don't keep in touch with, and my dad is dyslexic, also part of neurodivergence, so I get my ADHD, dyscalculia, and possible autism, honestly from my family, the same way I have my grandmother's gluten intolerance. I wish there was more research into things like how to help people, and education on how to make things more accessible, rather than going into "cures" that we don't want, or phony research like what A$ does.
Anti vaxxer: I'm not going to vaccinate my children! (Insert argument for why)
Doctor: Well, you don't have to vaccinate your children,
you only need to vaccinate the ones you want to keep.
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@@epicgamer8646 Um...buddy...sodium chloride is salt. It's a necessity for our survival.
It’s a joke r/wooooosh
@@epicgamer8646 Sorry. You were very convincing.
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I really understand this. I have always been very analytical and science-minded, and always knew I would vaccinate my children without hesitation. That is, until I became pregnant. Last month I had to make a decision about getting a flu shot. It seemed like the obvious thing to do. It is not only deemed safe for pregnancy, but is highly recommended for pregnant women by the CDC. When my baby is about a month old, I'll have to take her on a long train ride. This unavoidable travel will potentially expose her to this year's flu (which can be deadly for babies). I want to keep her safe, and it's been shown that newborns (who cannot be vaccinated against the flu themselves until 6 months) receive their mother's immunity when she's vaccinated while pregnant. So it was a no-brainer, right?
Only it wasn't... I, of all people, struggled enormously in finding the will to follow through with this vaccination, for pretty much all the reasons covered in this video. I was responsible for protecting this precious life growing inside me. It seemed riskier to introduce vaccine chemicals to protect against something we may not even be exposed to. I was healthy when I went in for the shot. If something did go wrong, I knew I would feel worse if it was the result of something I did (get a shot) than something I didn't (in the case that she would catch the flu). I did some research, and though I could see that the overwhelming medical consensus was that I should have the shot, I also found several online articles and forums where people wrote about how they got this vaccine and then miscarried or had a stillbirth the following week. I know better than to count anecdotes as data, but I almost walked out of the doctor's office without the shot. Still, in the end, my reason overcame my emotion and I took the vaccination. Afterwards I went home and cried, still worried I'd made the wrong choice.
For the record, my baby survived and has continued to grow and to behave normally in utero. All tests indicate she's in perfect health. She will be born any day now, and she will be immune to the flu. As with all preventative measures, I will never know what the alternative might have been. I'll probably forget about the shot altogether. I'm unlikely to write a blog post about how I got the flu shot during pregnancy and literally nothing happened (a factor that may contribute to availability bias, which could be interesting to discuss in future videos on this topic). But I'm glad I followed through.
As hard as it will be, for all reasons covered in this video, I will keep getting my child vaccinated as she grows up. I will have to put my reason ahead of my fear for the ultimate well-being of my child, and for the well-being of other people she'll encounter as she grows up. I hope this video helps other parents see where bias is clouding their judgment, so we can all make better decisions for our kids and for society at large.
angolangel
*You are amazing!*
You are beautiful and strong, mama. I struggled too. But not with autism worries. My friend works in daycare and has seen kids suffer with the side effects of vaccines. There are mild reactions like fever, vomiting, etc, but in rare cases people can get paralysis, get extreme allergic reactions, or die.
But, really, the chance of a baby dying from measels is *significantly* higher than my daughter being crippled from a vaccine.
There is something about the fear of holding your dead baby and knowing you did it to them that is absolutely consuming and immobilizing.
You can't be immune to the flu. Its is constantly evolving. The CDC basically takes a stab in the dark and says this is the strain that will hit this year, and they vaccinate for that strain. In 2016, the flu vaccine proved to only be 8% effective. They were wrong. The flu vaccine is the dumbest vaccine ever.
@@BradR89 No, we cannot be constantly immune to a current version of the flu, but the immune system remembers what illnesses you HAVE caught previously, INCLUDING previous versions of the flu. Basically, after getting one version of that disease, your body is immune to it forever. Just because the flu vaccine in 2016 proved to be 8% correct doesn't mean that all other flu vaccines will be as ineffective and hey, though I'm not sure how many lives were affected (I'm sorry for all that), we'll most likely not have to deal with that strain ever again. And besides, humans grow from past mistakes.
Thank you for improving our herd immunity! Rest assured that your child has benefitted from your decision. As a person who has seen people undergo chemotherapy, I can understand how terrified and helpless you can feel when you no longer have an immune system to protect you, and you and your future child will help protect and save these people. You deserve a salute as heartfelt as one I would givr to an armyman.
Now I'm afraid of giant man eating squirrels. Thanks SciShow.
I was shocked when I found out that one of my friends hadn't been vaccinated for Covid - and wasn't going to be, because she "didn't trust the government". Later, she told me that she knew the Earth was flat "because I've walked on it and it FEELS flat." (I should say ex-friend, not friend.)
I'm never getting that poison
Christ, the entire comments section for this video can be compared to people on two different planets throwing rocks at each other. Some are better at throwing rocks, some have a harder time seeing the already impossible to see rocks that the other planet is throwing, and none receive the rocks from the other. It's amazing how hard people will try to get their rock to hit somebody on the other planet, and it's amazing how far they come from actually doing it. The human mind is a stubborn planet.
wh-what do you even mean
BLU Robot Soldier He's saying how nothing either side says will actually "hit" or affect the people they're throwing their arguments at, they try so hard to use long words and explanations to convince themselves that they are smarter and are correct when the other side will simply do the same and not be affected at all by the other's argument, funny thing is that this is confirmation bias in itself, neither side will even consider the possibility that they are incorrect because they have already accepted what they believe as the absolute truth.
ian langford yeah I guess nobody paid attention to that part of the video 😂
deep
*throws a rock"
How about this idea? Have people sign a document consenting to be placed in court for attempted murder if the childs life is put at risk for not being vaccinated.
PERFECT
*****
Then how about listening to history. Death counts to disseases that were made practically extinct since the start of vacination.
Yes there is a lot more cases of autism, but there is also a lot more cases of cancer. So are people gonna blame vaccines for that to?
But i digress. I would totally agree with you, if not for one small fact. The number of studies made that proove smoking is very hazardus for to you doesnt stop women from smiking during pregnancy, nor does it stop people from smoking round pregnant women. This is something that is prooven 100% that is hazardus and people ignore it, while they are searching for reasons why not to trust something that practically decimated child mortality rate due to disseases.
So sorry if i dont share your view, but people are fucking stupid. And if my kid gets put in danger because of someone elses decision you can be sure ill be waiting with a baseball bat in a dark alley.
Also ever notice how practially all of this vaccines = autism debate is kinda synonamus with the US of A. The rest of the world either doesnt care, or is begging to get vaccines so their children stop dying from the flu or measles.
+Grega Meglic So which Boogeyman disease is going to kill your child? Chicken pox? That's one of the vaccines now. Many schools require it. Are you going to beat people senseless when your kid gets it? There are a few key vaccines which are VITAL (I'm looking at you, Polio), but some less so. Also, not all vaccines are equally safe.
Now they failed in this video in their due diligence, as the Autism scare came about with a now debunked study linking the two. However, there have been numerous vaccines which contain mercury. The controversy led to more scrutiny and most of those mercury containing ones are off the market.
Also, some children have violent allergic reactions to certain vaccines, with some vaccines being more often problematic than others. The scheduling from the CDC does not take this into account.
Why is this a problem? Many vaccines require multiple rounds of dosing, and usually several different vaccines are done at once. If your child reacts horribly to one, you have no clue which when they are clustered. If you space them out so you can identify the culprit, you can forgo the next dose, or ask for it in a different form.
Furthermore, most of the vaccines are for diseases which don't kill children, and are more important for adults to avoid, but adults take shit care of themselves so the medical community has decided to exploit our protectiveness over our children to attack some of these diseases.
Everyone interested in not being ignorant on vaccines should should The Vaccine Book by Dr. Robert Sears. It is well researched and presented and includes information your doctor likely lacks or only vaguely remembers. It properly arms parents to make a conscious choice based on science good information rather than fear and ignorance.
Actually the CDC just admitted fraud and admitted they altered and destroyed data that contained a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. So think again. Don't be so reliant on the government and what the media tells you. Make a decision based off of real research looking at both ends of the spectrum. The vaccine industry paid out 4 billion dollars to vaccine injuries. Also when you get vaccinated they make you sign a consent so that basically you can't sue if you get seriously injured or have a reaction. That should be a red flag right there.
Ashley Evans
Wait what? There is nothing of that sort over here. Basically unless its an alergic reaction that was unknown to them, the hospitals are responsible. And even if there is an alergic reaction, some heads still roll over here.
Savage intro. First 30 seconds had my wife and I laughing so good ;)
I personally am unvaccinated from covid but that’s because I got a blood clotting issue that could kill me with any kind of injection
Another possible reason cases of autism have been going up since whatever year is that we've recently started accepting things on the spectrum of autism that weren't considered anything but quirky or odd before- more people are getting diagnosed because our parameters for diagnosing them are changing to include more people. This happens/has happened with all psychological disorders, and with some physical ones too.
Good point. In generations past many people were likely not diagnosed or misdiagnosed.
My maternal family tree implies there have been at least four or five generations with autism in some of the branches, and as several of them were farmers it wasn't something that worked against them... So they were seen as just "quirky" at most. The changeling myths were based on children with age "triggered" issues, including autism. Because while a professional can usually identify autism in children when they are still less than a year old, laymen don't realize something is really off until around 3-5 years old when the child may even seriously regress in developing. Living in the medieval ages and your child appearing to suddenly change in personality was probably all sorts of terrifying and inexplicable, and assuming they were replaced wasn't farfetched with their knowledge.
I studied biology in college. One thing I learned was that vaccines need to be very specific. One anti-vaccine proponent told me that vaccines are mutated viruses. If this were true, the vaccines would, likely, not work. This completely invalidated anything else that person had to say. Another person told me that vaccines don't work. To that person I ask, "When was the last time you heard of someone getting smallpox? So many people don't understand how science works. When they see a study that supports their ideas, they don't look at the study with skepticism. They just use the study to tell people things like, "Vaccines are mutated viruses," or "Vaccines cause genetic mutations." Make sure you learn about how research should be done. Then go over your sources with a fine tooth comb.
anti-vax is confirmation bias aland fear mongering at it's finest!
You just described the pro-vaxx propaganda assault perfectly.
Kimberly Moraes Walker if we are to analyze the claim that:the virus has mutated. A mutated virus wouldn't be recognized as the same virus because it's "mutated".
So the right question "is not" to ask:When was the last time you seen someone with smallpox? The right question to ask is: has the smallpox virus truely been eliminated?...or has it mutated into a new disease under a new name; One of the thousands of new diseases killing many people today that did not exist in the 1700, when smallpox was an epidemic. Are we replacing an old epidemic with a new epidemic?
These are some of the questions you should be asking to properly guide your research of the specific claims you presented. Unless you're dealing with the biases this guy just talked about.
The thing that makes the claim vaccines causing genetic mutation for me at least is completely thrown out the window when you come to think that just your cells splitting causes genetic mutation the thing that makes sure your not still an infant.
Kimberly Moraes Walker People fear what they don't understand. They don't understand science and they think they're geniuses which leads to stupidity. But it is not them to blame, it is their upbringing and their own minds
My mom is a doctor and she actually really didn't like the idea of having me vaccinated for some ancient disease and have a terrible fever from the vaccine after words for a week. But vaccination is mandatory in China so I had to do them all. It was a pain even from as little as I remember. So it really is just a balance of what is reasonable, and how to communicate it reasonably.
Just wanted to say that autism is not a disease
big facts
I like how I arrived here 5 years later and this video explain why people are freaking out about covid-19
8 months ago and we are still here.........
@@ChinChinMandarin cv19 vaccine can cause a hyper immune response causing massive inflammation, a cytokine storm, especially in the elderly, so go figure. I like my chances better with vitamin C which supports systems not destroys them.
Kostynha i would love to donate my vaccine to you or your family !
@@Noor-jw2tn Except extra vitamin C isn't effective against covid-19...
@@Noor-jw2tn Vaccines don't destroy your immune system, also Vitamin C and all other vitamins and Minerals cannot treat or prevent Covid-19. Stop blindly believing in unproven conspiracy theories and do your own honest research. You were lied to by Moronic Anti-Vaxxers and Conspiracy Theorists.
I have autism, and tbh it's not the end of the world really :) I'm pretty darn good with Rubik's cubes & puzzles, and a bit shy/antisocial, but I don't care. I'm happy how I am thanks :) what I would find the end of my world though is getting measles, mumps, rubella, polio..... anything like that, and losing the ability to do stuff I love, or you know, casually die or whatever... I think I prefer being autistic to dead.
Also, why do people who prefer not to vaccinate their kids think autism is worse than a physically crippling or deadly disease? If they can google vaccines and autism, then why not google what the vaccine is preventing? If you're gonna research because you don't know something, do it properly. :P
why is this a discussion? vaccines don't cause autism.
You type way better than those without it. Good on ya.
autism sounds great well soon 50% of kids will have it
what a horrible thing to write to someone! Truly shamefull.
You a cuber?
About 6 years ago, I was in the emergency room, and a woman came in with a baby, about 1 year old, who was crying, coughing, and choking. It was horrible! She had refused to vaccinate her baby, who had developed a case of whooping cough. The baby did not survive. I love my children. That's why I got them vaccinated. I wouldn't want anyone I love to go through what that poor baby went through.
Rockefellers approve
A normal anti-vaxxer life:
Doctor: Would you like to vaccinate your child?
Parent: Nah the disease is dead.
Doctor: The disease is dead because people vaccinate themselves dammit.
Parent: .... still no
lol tru
well almost dead disseased that are truly dead aren't vaccinated because you can't get it
Neon Starlight USA sickest children in the "free" world. Thanks vaccines these are the only first at anything we get anymore.Highest Infant mortality in the first 24 hours too highest in the developed world. There is another first we can claim. Vaxxers must be proud due to their insanity we can lead the world in medical forced deaths
Neon Starlight oh tell those who were part of the government 40 injection of syphilis into afro Americans carter ended it but you make fun of those who don't trust their government wow how sad
Neon Starlight oh we are former Vaxxers not antivac god forbid yours gets to be the loosing end of the stix
that was the kindest way to say their brains failed them
pinazee it's what they want to hear not what they need to here.
Dr. Wakefield is probably much smarter than you or I.
Just for an FYI go to vaxxed.com on CZcams because there are many anti Vaxxers and you can show them evidence
So how do I kindly say that to you? Your cognitive bias perhaps?
@@josephtaylor2085 its propoganda you moron
You are wonderful. Thank you for presenting this info so clearly. "Taking sides" and getting angry at folks who dont agree with you in this debate has obviously not gotten us anywhere as a society. Understanding the resistance to vaccinations will hopefully lead to better strategies for informing the dubious or fearful.
OK. And you consider this video not as "taking sides"? Clear to me which side you're on then.
At the end of the day you are putting something in to your body that you don't understand from people you don't even know...
We use things every day that we’re unsure about every single ingredient or component, yet we happily consume and use them. But to draw the line at a vaccine that has been used to fully vaccinate 3 billion people is ridiculous.
@@Puggalugthere’s something to this. i was treated horribly due to questions ninjas regarding these mrna medical products. due to the lack of critical thinking, harsh criticisms, and even worse treatment - i won’t ever take another...
@@PuggalugThe smug little guy in the video is now a cancer patient.
I've seen a few people moaning about the amount of mercury in vaccines and crap, but I realise that the properties of mercury will definitely change when bonded to different elements. If not, then we should be swimming in the ocean and be able to function fine because there's oxygen in water!!
Sodium violently reacts with water and chlorine is a toxic gas, but when you combine the two you get salt. People who use mercury to scare people are the same people who want to ban dihydrogen monoxide, because it's a scary sounding name.
there is no safe dose of injected mercury in any form
Plautus Satire You're an idiot.
Jordan Smithson how many vaccines have you had?
Not that it's really any of your fucking business.....All the standard one when I was young, flu shots over the past 28 years, the odd tetanus booster, and most recently a Tdap. I haven't traveled to anywhere that I need specific immunizations for.
4:40 is the most important part of this video that almost no one commenting here chose to pay attention to. Keep insulting vaccine hesitant people, you'll only contribute more to their hesitation. The more polarized this issue becomes, the more people will abandon vaccines altogether.
He was just stating a feature of human psych
@@freewyvern707 Thanks for your contribution.
That's fine, the leper colony and quarantine are excellent preventative methods that protect the general population.
Anyone wanting to leave the quarantine colony is welcome to - if they can get through the minefield and interlocking fields of fire.
There is no issue, there is no polarization at all.
It is like if some kids cannot say 2+2=4. ... Is there any debate between them and their teacher. No there are ignorant kids vs their teacher.
To understand why these kids dont trust their teacher is the question.
@@user-wd8wx5md5z There clearly is an issue. And you're correct that it has everything to do with trust. The point I was highlighting from the video is that you don't gain trust by insulting or even punishing. Those methods only serve to further polarize. It takes more than good science to change someone's system of beliefs.
Imagine how much those kids would trust their teacher if every time they questioned whether 2+2=4, they were told they were idiots and other comments to be found on here.
Great video. Very informative!
I think if you moved the bit that "there is no debate" to the end, a lot more people would hear the information, that "you're being, from a certain perspective, logical" and might have their minds changed but hey, can never know if they would change.
Great video, I will use these points to convince anti vaxxers
Goodness me.
I wasn't going to comment on this, but the comments really made me feel like I have to step in.
The anti-vax movement is absolutely ridiculous. I am a support worker for adults with learning disabilities and severe autism, and I have never met such incredible people.
So here is what I gather from the anti vaccination side:
You believe that if you vaccinate your children against diseases that have and will kill those who are unprotected, you will save your child from getting disorders like autism. Let's think about this for a second,
Not everyone who is vaccinated is autistic, and you want to avoid autism. Autism is often portrayed as this massive disability that makes everyone miserable, unable to live life to the fullest, etc. In most cases, you won't even be able to tell who has and hasn't got autism. In fact, a lot of people with autism don't even know they have it- it's usually so minor!
But let's say vaccines do cause autism, and they do give a very small percentage of people autism. You could choose NOT to vaccinate your kid, which puts them at risk greatly from infection that could disabilitate, or kill them, and by the time they are in hospital, there is very little the doctors can do to cure the kid. The child could very easily remain permanently or long-term ill or disabled, or even die, because you believed an injection that would have stopped this, could have a teeny tiny chance of causing minor developmental disorders.
Like I said, i support people with learning disabilities and they have better lives than me! They're independent, can go where they want, and they're happy.
The anti vaxxers are ridiculous in my opinion and don't seem to have a full grasp of what autism is.
Vaccines contain toxins?
So does most food you eat. All those preservatives, dear me :((
Contains metals?
So does a lot of fruit....??
Vaccines are a weakened version of the disease that gets into your body, and because it's so weak, it can't damage you. Your body then learns, and remembers the virus in case you get infected with the real thing.
If vaccinations cause autism, measles, the common cold, and a lot of other viruses and infections will cause autism too, right?
Please do some bloody research and stop picking out the "facts" you get from biased media to support your own claim.
Also... if the government are hiding the "truth" about vaccines, how on earth does that benefit them? In fact if vaccines caused autism, and a percentage of those people went into care, wouldn't they essentially be paying for.....
Nothing?
Perfect logic and reasoning!!
Beautifully stated.
Well said! 🤓
nawh nawh, you're dealing with me now.
so if my food contains toxins..................if the universe contains toxin...........then my healthy herbal treatment should "naturally" contains toxins too? yeah.......no let's just keep the vaccine clean only the virus is fine please
if there's a virus or bacteria or food that causes autism? why is vaccination always taking shots at?
cdc and who i'm pretty sure they benefit from selling their vaccines to other organizations or every single hospital? like i'm not sure but yeah things like that is sure logically profitable? i mean im not an expert....but i know i can watch taylor swift on youtube.....and dont have to pay money to watch her sing....cause youtube pays the company and ads pay youtube.....you're wayyy out of your expertise here
and i did do my research and my research told me aluminum causes nerve damage thats hard to detox and aluminum is in the H1N1 vaccine
i believe in immunization.....but i don't believe in aluminum or formaldehyde and thymerisol
but honestly your best argument is viral bacterial induced autism i want to know more examples and information about THAT cause i've never heard of that before.....i just only here about parents complaining bout vaccines so as i look whats in the H1N1 vaccine it's hella disgusting so you tell me why some kids have sudden autism appearing after 8 - 15 years of age...???
so if it's a big deal to you, DON'T worry....if you AND your child is vaccinated....you don't have to worry about me or anyone else being vaccinated or not.....you're IMMUNE........
@@jasonchu4400 there are extensive videos explaining why vaccines have aluminum and thimerosal.... I'm not wasting my time typing it all out for you to read.
Now why are people "suddenly" having autism after 15 years? Easy, because they were not diagnosed as children. Female and high-functioning male autists are similar enough to neurotypical people that they are not recognized as neurodivergent. Especially women. 4 males are diagnosed with autism for every 1 female that is diagnosed. And autism does not affect more males than females, it's just that males act more outside of the social norms/conventions than females, which means, higher testing rate, which means a higher diagnosis rate (fyi, it's the same thing that happens with child prodigies, more male prodigies are found in comparison to female prodigies because parents take a closer look at their male children than their female children).
Believe it or not, adults are getting themselves tested because they want their neurodivergence recognized as part of who they are. Neurodivergence is NOT an illness. And these testings are demostrating that the definition of autism was not wide enough when it was first used.
vaccination has been around since some dude figured out that if someone caught relatively harmless cowpox, they were immune to smallpox
Sukul22 ._. No it’s been around since this one Chinese dude blew stuff into people’s noses
Bee Phenix. It didn’t work all the time though
The cowpox method was more successful
Yeah but that was the first recorded thing called “variallation” (at least I think)
Drs need to explain better the risk off illness vs the risk of treatment. The 2 must be weighed.
1. All pills have side effects
2. Vaccines have side effects
3. Even surgery is bad... you are getting cut open. Could get infections.
Weigh the probability of harm from each. Both options have risk.
You presume the individual is in a position to plausibly understand what you say physicians should articulate to the patients - when the truth is they are not. So a doctor will articulate the main points they feel should be noted and it falls to the individual = trusting that the doctor for whom they recognize as the expert in the field knows their business.
So the whole "informed consent" argument used by vaccine opponents is really a red herring as absent the person either being a doctor and/or are knowledgeable about the medical science in question = they have no plausible basis from which to try to second guess the doctor. They either accept it - or they don't. As an aside. There is already a host of information about many medical things available online via credible public health sources. So it is not as if the person can not validate what a doctor tells them as relevant medical information vis a vis side effects or ingredients and whatnot are a few keystrokes away for most. 🤔
@@varyolla435 seriously? A normal member of society cannot understand quantity of risk and reward and net balance?
This segues into the current cesspool of conspiracy theories regarding the COVID vaccine. Perhaps an update to this video would be a good idea?
The video is pretty self explanatory. Do your research, check your biases, and know "the more successful vaccines are, the less likely people are to get them later." Essentially, its cyclical. It was the same in 1918, people refused flu vaccines and to take precautions, but yet vaccinations were at an all time high during the mid-century (height of polio and measles). George Washington implemented a primitive vaccination system with his troops, who were suffering smallpox. No one had a problem with it, but we no longer need smallpox vaccines. Some against vaccines use this as a talking point (why do I need measles vac if measles isnt around anymore? Success=refusal)
I have nothing against people who take vaccines. But if I do not want to my rights should not be taken away from me and I should not be oppressed. Just look at Australia. Are you going to tell me that is for good of the people as well?
@@tomislavvinkovic827 - You do not have a right to be a danger to public health. That has been well established in the United States for more than a century: see the Supreme Court's decision on Jacobson v. Massachusetts, decided in 1905. If you don't like it, maybe you should move to Brazil or Russia, and stop threatening American lives.
@@tomislavvinkovic827 You have individual rights only insofar as they do not infringe on the individual rights of others, which I think is perfectly reasonable. If you don't want to be vaccinated, then I don't think you should be held down and forced against your will to receive the injection, but if you are banned from participating in normal societal activities as a result of your decision, then as far as I am concerned, that is an acceptable reality. Because you do have a choice in the matter, and other people may not want to risk their own health by being around certain people who do not respect or care about the health of the public.
If you want to remove yourself from the rest of civilization entirely, and maybe go off to live alone in the woods somewhere, then there is no problem. You are entitled to that sort of solitary lifestyle (in fact, without a job, you won't even need to pay taxes). However, if you want to associate with everyone else and live amongst the rest of society, then you have to play by the rules of the collective, and that means sometimes making personal sacrifices for the sake of others. That's simply how it is, and there's no reason to complain about it when your choices have consequences you don't like. There is always the option to make a different choice.
@@TechBearSeattle I do not even live in America🙄