@@darrenjones1413 I was thinking about upgrading my primary gaming tv to a new Sony 4k oled. At first I was conflicted because it only has hdmi ports, but on this particular Sony, composite av output is actually built into the tv and can be done by getting a little adapter that plugs directly into a little video jack on the back.
I stored my PS2 up in my moms attic (100 degree weather) for the last 18 years and the other day I took it out of the box and turned it on and it still works! 😮
The fat PS2s seem very well-built indeed. Mine still looks brand new, and works just fine aside from a dead clock battery. But that's inevitable, and I'm sure it can be replaced.
@seltzerbot8730 The clock batteries can be replaced quite easily. I’m just too lazy to do it myself lol, especially since I already opened my system to clean it and don’t wish to spend half an hour working on it while my son is climbing on me. And yeah, the two phat models I have still work after 20+ years. Take really good care of them, and they will last even longer. :)
For Christmas in 2005 or 2006 i got a PlayStation 2 fat my brother tripped over the controller cord it fell on its head to never work again he bought me a ps2 slim to replace it and the thing was damn near indestructible and for that reason alone i always preferred the slim
One of the things that makes slim more resilient? An external power supply. The internalized ones, especially when the system got hot, could easily fail if they suffered either surges (the supply failing was a 30$ fix vs 200$+) or drops. Given it was marketed as the first truly vertical console, that's probably not surprising drops happened more frequently.
@@nolankuffner3573 I had the SPCH-900x series and it had an internal power supply and it worked very well surprisingly, no issues faced with the internal one.
Never had the Slim myself, I had (and still have now) the FAT model. It still works! Opened it up this year to clean out dust and it works great. Still plays PS1 and PS2 games. Love it.
For a bit more information, the SCPH-7900x slims do not have the same disc scratching flaw that other slims do. This is because the SCPH-7900x does not hold the ribbon cable down with adhesive, instead using plastic clips. The SCPH-700xx slims also don't have the compatibility issues others have, with the exception of Final Fantasy XI, and that's because the 700xx has a similar chipset to the fat models.
@@ExplodingNoobofMCis there any small modification you can do to stop this ribbon from scratching your discs. I've been collecting rare and valuable PS2 games to sell and I was going to test them to see if they were working on a slim PS2 I don't want to start scratching up games like silent Hill games that are worth over $100 while trying to test them
@@XxxXxx-br7eq Search for "PlayStation 2 Disk Saver Ribbon Shield". It physically prevents the laser ribbon cable from ever being able to curl up and touch the disc.
The original just looks cooler as well and is more nostalgic for me because that’s what I grew up owning, until the laser stopped working and I made the dumb decision to toss it in the trash and buy a slim.
@@chiefdabwinninghe is showing the launch model phat with the twin motherboards and the auto tilt this original model is impossible to install a modchip and completely unreliable
For me its the complete opposite. I hate the original ps2, its ridiculously big and looks clunky and dumb, the ps2 slim grey is what i grew up on and that fucker is the only real ps2 in my eyes.
@@spochysrandomnetwork2865 that’s weird because soap and water always did the trick for me I’d put soap on it, wipe it around slowly and then put water on it, then I’d wait for it to dry and/or wipe it off. I did that to a copy of SvR 2006 and it started working again!
It's the laser ribbon glue, it comes undone over time so when the laser is moving back and forth the ribbon sticks up too high hitting the disc while it spins, making a perfect circle.
I think it came down to economies of scale. The PS2 was so popular, Sony could afford to make the hardware tinier and tinier and cost less to manufacture. Coincided with a time when consumer electronics really started getting smaller, and smaller, and more compact... Compare a similar example: the Sega Genesis which has had MANY design variants over its nearly decade in production, starting from 4 major ICs (the 68k, Z80, VDP and YM2612), going down to 3, then 2, then EVERYTHING mashed into a single ASIC. The console didn't shrink nearly as much, but the PCB shrank. You could tell how much less it cost Sega to manufacture by the end of the console's lifespan. Crazy!
My uncle had a fat PS2 out of the box that wouldn’t read CD based PS2 games which has the blue back, but would read PS1 games and PS2 games on DVD. Also another story, my friend got a PS2 slim, this was for his bedroom, he had a fat model as well which was in his family room which was a fat model, so at this point he had plenty of games, so anyway, out of the box his slim model wouldn’t read DVDs or DVD based PS2 games, only PS2 games on CD, he was so pissed and I thought it was hilarious. He got it exchanged though so there was a happy ending.
I have the same experience as your uncle! My SCPH-39001 model is great with DVD-ROMs but not CD Roms! My SCPH-75001 model is good with CD-Roms but not DVD roms.
I still have my childhood silver slim from 2005, we went through 3 fats in under 4 years due to the infamous disc read error problem. The slim scratched a couple of my discs in like 2013, however what I didn’t know at the time was what an easy fix it is. Push the ribbon cable behind the laser down, if the adhesive has worn off take a piece of double sided tape and put it under the ribbon cable and your golden. Ended up finding the slim in the basement when we were getting ready to move earlier this year. Super grateful we found it I love that little guy to death and I’m glad I still have my exact childhood console all these years later
Thanks for the tip, i’m definitely going to try that. I got a free PS2 slim after buying something off some dude on FB Marketplace. It was just the console, so I went on a full on journey to acquire the OG power cord, Guitar Hero, and some other games. Started it up and I played through just one song until the system just went blank, then wouldn’t read the disc. I turned it upside down and voila, it worked 😂. But, as a back up I got another Slim off marketplace with cords, controller and a few games for $50. Absolute steal. Now i’m in a dilemma on which model to keep. The 75 or 77, or should I buy the fat console 30001R. I’m going to try your method but i’m slowly learning that each one has its pros and cons. So I might just keep the one that’s working the best and in best condition, then trade in the other for the fat PS2 just a collector item - or resell it one day.
Another thing that makes the OG PS2s better that the slims is that most especially the model SCPH-39001 consoles from 2002 seem to hold up pretty well for their age even with minimal maintainance. I look on ebay and see a lot more broken slims than OG "fats" and I've wasted money on 2 slim consoles (one from ebay and the other from my local pawn shop) that can't read DVD's and PS2 DVD ROMs. I had a PS2 SCPH-39001 that I bought from my local GameStop preowned back in 2010 and it worked better than my piece of junk slim SCPH-79001 that I bought brand new in 2008. I bought another 39001 from my local Goodwill in 2019 that still works and later on sold the one from GameStop in 2021 "still working" and still have the one from Goodwill. I played THPS3 And ATVOF3 on my 39001 this morning and it's crazy to think that it still works flawlessly 22 years later.
bought two slims, one brand new at EBgames and a used one. they stopped working after a year whereas the phat one which I bought since 2003 still work like a charm.
I have a FAT PS2 3900 model. With INTEC STAND SPEAKER system. Modded HDD with 300gb. 59 HDD games. 2 Logitech Wireless Controllers. 2 MAD CATZ wired controllers. 6 Magic Gate Memory Cards. 40 PS2 Games. Rocket Fish Component Cables. Magnavox 19" HDTV. (Looks like a PC MONITOR) 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Never had scratch Issue on my PS2 slim back then.. I really cared for my cds if you want to play my games I alone will put it in and take it out a simple scratch I would be mad thats because I bought my own CD with my allowance.. it took time but totally worth it specially the Resident Evil 4 mall price was like 2k in pesos around $30 to $40 back then..😅😅
i had a ps2 fat originally but either the hdmi or av port was fried and no audio would play at all so i exchanged it for a slim and i had a lot of memories with it for a few years.
I don’t think the slot on the back is for hard drives. Unless there was more than one use then that slot is for a Ethernet connection pack so you could plug an Ethernet cable in.
Honestly, I do remember on the phat model, opening the disk drive and the disk still spinning on its own weight as the CD reader just dropped the disk as it was still spinning and it spun in the tray, leaving a nasty ring around the disk that would not come off. Don't remember what caused that, but others who had a phat PS2 that did that knows the terror of hearing that, and having to just sit and wait for the tray to open fully.
I had one slim in PAL. I got the phat NTSC from base thrift, and I still got the latter today. It has the internal plastic missing from the first controller port, but it still functions fine (although I'll probably stop playing PS1 games on it to reduce wear and because I finally netted that console in the wild). Definitely can't beat the original! I guess you can stand the slim up, but og is built for it. The convenience in such a form factor cannot be overstated.
This is false. Outright. The slim has shown itself to actually keep heat BETTER than the ps2 fat, as weird as it sounds. It’s just a part of physics. Phat, large objects build up more heat and don’t dissipate it as well as Slim, small objects. As for design, that’s for you to decide, but the slim does have better power efficiency. I love the fat though
That hard drive is numero uno on my list. Being able to easily mod the PS2 and dump your discs onto the drive. You get all the advantages of original hardware without the need to go about swapping discs. Not to mention, the laser is usually the first thing to give you problems on any model.
FAT PS2 had DTS decoding for DTS movies. The other models didn't have it. That upset me a lot because i was watching my movies in DTS on my console before I had to replace it with the slim. I went straight back to the FAT model.
@thebroskis6364 Yes, it does. I've been doing it successfully for 20 years. All PS1 and PS2 games are compatible with the slim. If you have a game that's not working properly then your disc has a problem. It's not your slim.
I bought a pair of those from amazon and they work great. Only downside is they work on AAA batteries instead of an internal, rechargable one but besides that, they are great and don't have any input lag.
@@DrDIYhax anytime, mate. Forgot to mention that it pairs with the reciever as soon as you turn the controller on(has a small switch between the analogs) without any effort and the recievers come in the same color as the controller, so you'll always know which is which. Tried them in games like GOW 2 and Midnight Club 3 and they respond as well as an original wired controller would. Got the bundle pair for around 27€ (don't know how much it may be in US$ or other currency)
about the PlayStation 2 Slim scratching games, I think it only scratches because of the optical reader's flat cable, which touches the disc as it rotates, which causes scratches.
The FAT PS2 scratched five of my discs with a death ring. My slims never did that. The only problem of the SLIM is the power cable: don't remove-attach it too often, or the piece will break.
Im using both 🤣🤣🤣🤣 since only one PS2 plays Midnight Club 3 Dub Edition Remix I use my other consoles for other games. I have 2 SLIMS and 1 PHAT console. For whstever reason it's not scratching Midnight Club 3 at all it scratched my other games in the past so i bought another slim didn't scratch it problem it didn't play my favorite game but played every other game And the phat one for whatever reason i never had a phat it felt good to own one bought one a while back. Rare as hell it ran me bout $349.99
I have the original black fat version of the PS2 and it will read most of my games apart from Gran Turismo 4 which ever thought the disc is clean it won't read whilst it always playes fine on my family's PS2 slim.
I love the build in LAN Port in the Slim version. The adapter for the FAT version is very expensive. I store my games/roms on our homeserver. This is a perfect solution for me.
The main reason I have the slim is because I don’t have very much space for consoles, so its compact size is convenient. Plus I can easily throw it in my backpack and take it on the go with me.
On the slim model depending on model #, can scratch your disks due toan interior ribbon being loose by time. but there is a fix modding to keep that ribbon from being loose. id look into that slim #model amd doing some modding.
Slim 7000 Series owner here. NEVER had any issues with my discs scratching or my console overheating (my cousin owns a 9000 Series, and his shut down due to overheating multiple times). Ive also had the best PS1 playback from my system. Recently the laser failed, Ill have to replace that
Of course if you put the disc in there like a BOT it will scratch. I’ve seen videos of people putting in a disc on a ps2 fat and the way they do it it’s mind blowing the tray doesn’t break from the pressure they put down on it while placing the disc/game
There is many versions of the slim. There is one that has the original ps1 processor like before that can do everything the big one can do. It’s the 70000 oness with the screw posts in the back.
All models except maybe really late models of the ps2 slim (2006 era 9000x models) can play any ps1 game. The CD player may get a bit worn out on any ps2 over time not to mention the disc itself not being up to snuff, but other than that any ps2 is good
My ps2 slim was been through 4 houses (through my siblings me, my sister who doesn’t take care of stuff, my brother, and me once again) I had no problems at all
The slim only scratches if the ribbon cable in the disc drive gets loose, but it's not guaranteed The phat has it's own issues, like dying lasers (most phats I come across that have never been opened up either can't read blue discs, gold discs, or movies), loud fans, slow boot up times, etc. I own both and both have their own pros and cons, but with having close to 300 games, I've never had my slim give me issues with compatibility on any of them. Most people won't have that issue either
The only issue I had with the slim was that for some reason, it couldn't play Xenosaga and some other dual layered disc. Lost count on the amount of times I went back and fourth to gamestop and even got a brand new copy of Xenosaga, and it STILL red screen. Both versions had compatability issues with PS1 games. Neither could play Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Red Asphalt. Red Asphalt it hung at the intro movie and MKT often had no audio.
Cool fact abt ps2 slims is that there’s software to play burned disks where as the og ps2 cant. No modding required. Patch your games with said software, open img burn, and burn to your hearts content on some dvds.
When it comes to scratches, it depends on which slim, but even the bad ones rarley made disk breaking scratches, usally just circular ones that interupt the game a sec, or maybe make it take a few tries to launch lol. Either way a fart could scratch thoes disks. When it came to the hard drive expansion possibility, man its the ps2, I dont think Ill ever need that lol. I never heard of support issues for the slim, especially considering the slim came after, and was well known to be better built and have more reliable quality than the original, not to mention it sounds more like a fan than a jet engine. The scratch issue i think came from just how the ribbon mechanism worked.
I wish i knew that sooner, i have been playing the ps2 slim for a long time, like i think 4-5 years, my games are fine with some small scratches but they read fine, but after seeing this video and looking it up, i am definitely gonna buy and switch to the fat model, also nice to see another dragon ball z bt player,
The slim model never scratched any of my games
I think there are specific ps2 models that do
Same
Bro yh exactly
Like its gonna scrach If u put it in like a npc
@@flamer7143 "like an npc" lol I love it 😂
Been using the same slim console since it came out and have had 0 issues
The only issue I have is my modern telly not supporting it unless I get convorters or hdmi adaptor
@@darrenjones1413 I was thinking about upgrading my primary gaming tv to a new Sony 4k oled. At first I was conflicted because it only has hdmi ports, but on this particular Sony, composite av output is actually built into the tv and can be done by getting a little adapter that plugs directly into a little video jack on the back.
You must've treated it like it was the only ps2 in the world lol
same but you really should check the ribon connected to the eye, eventually it rides up and potentially scratch the discs
Same som people don't know you have to wait for the click I guess
I stored my PS2 up in my moms attic (100 degree weather) for the last 18 years and the other day I took it out of the box and turned it on and it still works! 😮
The fat PS2s seem very well-built indeed. Mine still looks brand new, and works just fine aside from a dead clock battery. But that's inevitable, and I'm sure it can be replaced.
@seltzerbot8730 The clock batteries can be replaced quite easily. I’m just too lazy to do it myself lol, especially since I already opened my system to clean it and don’t wish to spend half an hour working on it while my son is climbing on me.
And yeah, the two phat models I have still work after 20+ years. Take really good care of them, and they will last even longer. :)
Why would it not work if you haven't touched it???
Yeah sonys consoles are beasts i left a ps3 in my car for over 2 years and it still works fine lmao
@@Baguenaudeurhumidity, pests, the plastic just breaking down bc its old?
For Christmas in 2005 or 2006 i got a PlayStation 2 fat my brother tripped over the controller cord it fell on its head to never work again he bought me a ps2 slim to replace it and the thing was damn near indestructible and for that reason alone i always preferred the slim
I dropped mine as a kid and it broke 😭 they are fragile. While the ps2 slim is more of a tank
I've literally had the PS2 slim chucked to the floor multiple times because of some one tripping and it always worked like a tank. Loved it.
One of the things that makes slim more resilient?
An external power supply.
The internalized ones, especially when the system got hot, could easily fail if they suffered either surges (the supply failing was a 30$ fix vs 200$+) or drops.
Given it was marketed as the first truly vertical console, that's probably not surprising drops happened more frequently.
@@nolankuffner3573 I had the SPCH-900x series and it had an internal power supply and it worked very well surprisingly, no issues faced with the internal one.
Never had the Slim myself, I had (and still have now) the FAT model. It still works! Opened it up this year to clean out dust and it works great. Still plays PS1 and PS2 games. Love it.
What’s your go to game?
@@DiverseTech it's a close tie between Jak and Daxter and Final Fantasy X for me, you?
I have 3 fats and they all don’t read discs. My childhood slims disc cover is gone and looks like it was thrown by tom brady but it still works find
@@McSquirtsye even tho you can mod it and get every game you want on a HDD with opl so it isn’t that big of a deal
I have a slim and it still works great too! Most of my problems come from the condition of my games rip
For a bit more information, the SCPH-7900x slims do not have the same disc scratching flaw that other slims do. This is because the SCPH-7900x does not hold the ribbon cable down with adhesive, instead using plastic clips. The SCPH-700xx slims also don't have the compatibility issues others have, with the exception of Final Fantasy XI, and that's because the 700xx has a similar chipset to the fat models.
Does the SCPH-7700x models have the scratch issue?
@@rabbidcrazy787 Unfortunately, they do. All slims, aside from the SCPH-7900x, can potentially have the ribbon cable scratch discs.
@@ExplodingNoobofMCis there any small modification you can do to stop this ribbon from scratching your discs. I've been collecting rare and valuable PS2 games to sell and I was going to test them to see if they were working on a slim PS2 I don't want to start scratching up games like silent Hill games that are worth over $100 while trying to test them
@@XxxXxx-br7eq Search for "PlayStation 2 Disk Saver Ribbon Shield". It physically prevents the laser ribbon cable from ever being able to curl up and touch the disc.
@@ExplodingNoobofMCwait, how can the ribbon cable scratch the disc?
The original just looks cooler as well and is more nostalgic for me because that’s what I grew up owning, until the laser stopped working and I made the dumb decision to toss it in the trash and buy a slim.
Oh man that’s tough…
Should have mod it
@@chiefdabwinninghe is showing the launch model phat with the twin motherboards and the auto tilt this original model is impossible to install a modchip and completely unreliable
@@DiverseTechget rid of that launch fat playstation 2 with the link port on the bottom. it uses a auto tilt and a trash split motherboard
For me its the complete opposite. I hate the original ps2, its ridiculously big and looks clunky and dumb, the ps2 slim grey is what i grew up on and that fucker is the only real ps2 in my eyes.
Hooked up my slim to find out all my games have hells scratches from the ribbon smh
Yikes…
it can be fixed
@@jaytrax34 is there any other method than using that one machine that cleans it? i used water and it does nothing
@@spochysrandomnetwork2865 that’s weird because soap and water always did the trick for me
I’d put soap on it, wipe it around slowly and then put water on it, then I’d wait for it to dry and/or wipe it off. I did that to a copy of SvR 2006 and it started working again!
And if you don't have the expansion pack, you can stash stuff in there!
😅
All stoners in the early - mid 00s knew it!
Dude created an infinite loop.
"and those are......3 reasons"
😂
Ye was like "huh" by the end, then had to play end again to catch that.
Yes every CZcams short does that
@@zHexya oh is it? That's good to know, thanks for sharing :)
@@alissonreinaldosilva1119 I mean it's not like an automated thing but it became a trend and almost every CZcams shorts creator does that
Yeah, on slim ps2s sometimes you will see circle shaped scratches on the outside of the disc.
True…
It's the laser ribbon glue, it comes undone over time so when the laser is moving back and forth the ribbon sticks up too high hitting the disc while it spins, making a perfect circle.
@@TheNamesRyanwhat is the best way to fix that issue if you want to play disc games ?
@@jeff15 there's some 3d print files out there for a clip you can install in the dvd drive to hold the cable down
I still got my PS2 SPCH 30001, still works like a charm havent even dusted the thing out, still rockin 😂
I still have my 30001R version. Had to replace the lens and power caps. It's back on working.
I peeped you have Budokai Tenkaichi 2 & 3 those games are goated and so nostalgic
The slims doesnt have the cooling issues the fat had, so it actually runs better longterm.
Not once have I ever had any issues with my PS2 Slim. I got it 19 year ago and it still works just as well as the Christmas Day I got it
Good thing my cousin dropped a tv on my original.
😂
I never had any scratches on mine..never had compatibility problems..bought it new in 2010..still rocks on!🥳🥳
This short has the perfect loop.🙂
Also, it's still amazing how small Sony could make that thing.😮
I think it came down to economies of scale. The PS2 was so popular, Sony could afford to make the hardware tinier and tinier and cost less to manufacture. Coincided with a time when consumer electronics really started getting smaller, and smaller, and more compact... Compare a similar example: the Sega Genesis which has had MANY design variants over its nearly decade in production, starting from 4 major ICs (the 68k, Z80, VDP and YM2612), going down to 3, then 2, then EVERYTHING mashed into a single ASIC. The console didn't shrink nearly as much, but the PCB shrank. You could tell how much less it cost Sega to manufacture by the end of the console's lifespan. Crazy!
I prefer my slim. I still have it till this day working fine , I just need new cords.
With the original it scratches more
My uncle had a fat PS2 out of the box that wouldn’t read CD based PS2 games which has the blue back, but would read PS1 games and PS2 games on DVD.
Also another story, my friend got a PS2 slim, this was for his bedroom, he had a fat model as well which was in his family room which was a fat model, so at this point he had plenty of games, so anyway, out of the box his slim model wouldn’t read DVDs or DVD based PS2 games, only PS2 games on CD, he was so pissed and I thought it was hilarious. He got it exchanged though so there was a happy ending.
I have the same experience as your uncle! My SCPH-39001 model is great with DVD-ROMs but not CD Roms! My SCPH-75001 model is good with CD-Roms but not DVD roms.
I have the Slim version, bought it when released, still works and still plays every game. The only advantage of the fat version is the expandable HD.
go to work
y ni ventaja es xq la Slim le pones HD por la USB
You can mod it to install m.2 ssd or microsd card to run the games from it faster than from USB port. Cheers 🍻
@@jeff15how is it installed? If it’s by the USB port, then that’s negligible because USB 1.1 has really slow load speeds (1.5~ MB/s)
Jak x is unplayable in some slim ps2s
I still have my childhood silver slim from 2005, we went through 3 fats in under 4 years due to the infamous disc read error problem. The slim scratched a couple of my discs in like 2013, however what I didn’t know at the time was what an easy fix it is. Push the ribbon cable behind the laser down, if the adhesive has worn off take a piece of double sided tape and put it under the ribbon cable and your golden. Ended up finding the slim in the basement when we were getting ready to move earlier this year. Super grateful we found it I love that little guy to death and I’m glad I still have my exact childhood console all these years later
Thanks for the tip, i’m definitely going to try that. I got a free PS2 slim after buying something off some dude on FB Marketplace. It was just the console, so I went on a full on journey to acquire the OG power cord, Guitar Hero, and some other games. Started it up and I played through just one song until the system just went blank, then wouldn’t read the disc. I turned it upside down and voila, it worked 😂. But, as a back up I got another Slim off marketplace with cords, controller and a few games for $50. Absolute steal. Now i’m in a dilemma on which model to keep. The 75 or 77, or should I buy the fat console 30001R. I’m going to try your method but i’m slowly learning that each one has its pros and cons. So I might just keep the one that’s working the best and in best condition, then trade in the other for the fat PS2 just a collector item - or resell it one day.
PS2 slim, scratch so many of my desk, and then it stopped reading them😂 then were the days
true , R.I.P Pribce of persia
R.I.P Crash of the titans and
R.I.P Nemesis XD
but both are still ogs
Had to return 4 PS2 Slims in warranty when they were new.
Another thing that makes the OG PS2s better that the slims is that most especially the model SCPH-39001 consoles from 2002 seem to hold up pretty well for their age even with minimal maintainance. I look on ebay and see a lot more broken slims than OG "fats" and I've wasted money on 2 slim consoles (one from ebay and the other from my local pawn shop) that can't read DVD's and PS2 DVD ROMs. I had a PS2 SCPH-39001 that I bought from my local GameStop preowned back in 2010 and it worked better than my piece of junk slim SCPH-79001 that I bought brand new in 2008. I bought another 39001 from my local Goodwill in 2019 that still works and later on sold the one from GameStop in 2021 "still working" and still have the one from Goodwill. I played THPS3 And ATVOF3 on my 39001 this morning and it's crazy to think that it still works flawlessly 22 years later.
The original Playstation 2 , the motor of the tray always dies and you can't open it .
bought two slims, one brand new at EBgames and a used one. they stopped working after a year whereas the phat one which I bought since 2003 still work like a charm.
I have a FAT PS2 3900 model.
With INTEC STAND SPEAKER system.
Modded HDD with 300gb.
59 HDD games.
2 Logitech Wireless Controllers.
2 MAD CATZ wired controllers.
6 Magic Gate Memory Cards.
40 PS2 Games.
Rocket Fish Component Cables.
Magnavox 19" HDTV.
(Looks like a PC MONITOR)
😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
🔥
Didn't have any issues with my Slim. The local dentistry, though, did have a Fat in the waiting area. As a child I thought it was SOOO FREAKIN' COOL.
Great use of tekken tag music in the video! That soundtrack still slaps to this day!!
I salute your valiant effort to keep PS2 slim prices down for the rest of us.
~~The FDVDB development warrants second thought about the PS2 slim.~~
What was the point of memory cards in the big model when it had space for a hard drive?
If you can load backups in slim, I’d say in modern aspect the small size more than makes up for the disadvantages
I hid a baggie of something in that hard drive slot one time when I was young. then the fan kicked on and sent the smell through my bedroom…
😂
Never had scratch Issue on my PS2 slim back then.. I really cared for my cds if you want to play my games I alone will put it in and take it out a simple scratch I would be mad thats because I bought my own CD with my allowance.. it took time but totally worth it specially the Resident Evil 4 mall price was like 2k in pesos around $30 to $40 back then..😅😅
I remember I bought this with San Andreas, thinking I got scammed because I never heard of the slim model
i had a ps2 fat originally but either the hdmi or av port was fried and no audio would play at all so i exchanged it for a slim and i had a lot of memories with it for a few years.
That fat PS2 hard drive expansion slot was a great hidden compartment during my teen years. Had zero idea what it was actually for until just now
Damn that video loop was smooth at the end lol
Both of these are amazing I can't see any difference
I don’t think the slot on the back is for hard drives. Unless there was more than one use then that slot is for a Ethernet connection pack so you could plug an Ethernet cable in.
Honestly, I do remember on the phat model, opening the disk drive and the disk still spinning on its own weight as the CD reader just dropped the disk as it was still spinning and it spun in the tray, leaving a nasty ring around the disk that would not come off. Don't remember what caused that, but others who had a phat PS2 that did that knows the terror of hearing that, and having to just sit and wait for the tray to open fully.
I still have an original PS2 that still works very well. Purchased mine used over 10 years ago
Fat PS2 gives me the most disc read error issues. Less of an issue with my PS2 slim.
I had one slim in PAL. I got the phat NTSC from base thrift, and I still got the latter today. It has the internal plastic missing from the first controller port, but it still functions fine (although I'll probably stop playing PS1 games on it to reduce wear and because I finally netted that console in the wild). Definitely can't beat the original!
I guess you can stand the slim up, but og is built for it. The convenience in such a form factor cannot be overstated.
The Fat model also has the better design and doesn't overheat as much as the Slim one.
This is false. Outright. The slim has shown itself to actually keep heat BETTER than the ps2 fat, as weird as it sounds. It’s just a part of physics. Phat, large objects build up more heat and don’t dissipate it as well as Slim, small objects.
As for design, that’s for you to decide, but the slim does have better power efficiency.
I love the fat though
I remember as a kid pulling out the hard drive. I’m not even knowing what I’m doing I just liked when I would find things I previously overlooked.
Which games had compatibility issues? Didnt know about that? Do you have a list?
My slim never scratched any of my games.
ps2 fats had their issues to. I still have 2 of them, but the lasers would eventually stop reading the blue cd based disc games.
Exactly, I hate the Fat PS2 so much. My PS2 Slim literally plays all my 100+ games with ease including blue disc & dual-layered discs. 🥳
The hard drive functionality is easily the biggest unless you want the digital audio out
That hard drive is numero uno on my list. Being able to easily mod the PS2 and dump your discs onto the drive. You get all the advantages of original hardware without the need to go about swapping discs. Not to mention, the laser is usually the first thing to give you problems on any model.
The original ps2 used to crash after playing the blue discs, the slim did not have that problem. I'm still rocking my slim.
FAT PS2 had DTS decoding for DTS movies. The other models didn't have it. That upset me a lot because i was watching my movies in DTS on my console before I had to replace it with the slim. I went straight back to the FAT model.
Use to hide my skoal in that expandable hard drive. Good times.
My slim ps2 keeps overheating and it’s dead resulting that ps2 phat is even better
Fair…
Forgot to mention that the og ps2 has backwards compatibility
Ps 2 slim does too
All ps2 models play ps1 games.
@@gwarriorfromhellyes but the slim doesn't play all ps1 games
@@thebroskis6364ilr. Can’t even pkay “The Little Mermaid “ pS1 gsme !
@thebroskis6364 Yes, it does. I've been doing it successfully for 20 years. All PS1 and PS2 games are compatible with the slim. If you have a game that's not working properly then your disc has a problem. It's not your slim.
Did you seriously turn the disc in the tray? Wuttt
Are them cheap Bluetooth controllers with the adapter a good replacement for wired ? Also can you use 2 at once for splitscreen
I bought a pair of those from amazon and they work great. Only downside is they work on AAA batteries instead of an internal, rechargable one but besides that, they are great and don't have any input lag.
@@Bruce_Fernandes thanks man 👨
@@DrDIYhax anytime, mate.
Forgot to mention that it pairs with the reciever as soon as you turn the controller on(has a small switch between the analogs) without any effort and the recievers come in the same color as the controller, so you'll always know which is which. Tried them in games like GOW 2 and Midnight Club 3 and they respond as well as an original wired controller would.
Got the bundle pair for around 27€ (don't know how much it may be in US$ or other currency)
about the PlayStation 2 Slim scratching games, I think it only scratches because of the optical reader's flat cable, which touches the disc as it rotates, which causes scratches.
The FAT PS2 scratched five of my discs with a death ring. My slims never did that. The only problem of the SLIM is the power cable: don't remove-attach it too often, or the piece will break.
My ps2 slim is the 90 series so the cable is the same as the fat. And if it breaks, i can use my ps3 slim power cable
@@nalendraalif1116 the problem is not the power cable, but the thing where you stick it in
Im using both 🤣🤣🤣🤣 since only one PS2 plays Midnight Club 3 Dub Edition Remix I use my other consoles for other games. I have 2 SLIMS and 1 PHAT console. For whstever reason it's not scratching Midnight Club 3 at all it scratched my other games in the past so i bought another slim didn't scratch it problem it didn't play my favorite game but played every other game And the phat one for whatever reason i never had a phat it felt good to own one bought one a while back. Rare as hell it ran me bout $349.99
I have the original black fat version of the PS2 and it will read most of my games apart from Gran Turismo 4 which ever thought the disc is clean it won't read whilst it always playes fine on my family's PS2 slim.
There are also more PS1 games which have issues on slim models or straight up don't run.
Which ps2 slim models do it? I have the one where it doesn't have a rotatable ps symbol
I've been through a fair few slim ps2s but my fat has never gone faulty.
I love the build in LAN Port in the Slim version. The adapter for the FAT version is very expensive. I store my games/roms on our homeserver. This is a perfect solution for me.
Site your sources on that scratching issue.
The main reason I have the slim is because I don’t have very much space for consoles, so its compact size is convenient. Plus I can easily throw it in my backpack and take it on the go with me.
My original ps2 i know people experience the scary load disc wouldn't scan or read
It actually would read it as a dvd but then it gives you that screen because it doesn't recognize it and it's pretty scary.
@@Mysticgames136 the red screen of death 🗿🗿🗿🗿
I didn't even know there was a PS2 slim tbh, everyone I know only had original PS2s. Did have some slim versions of PS3, PS4
Yeah they did, but they were much better, as they did not scratch discs. In fact, the PS3 slim was the most popular model of PS3
@@straferzthe launch model of the ps3 was better imo cause of the backwards compatibility
MC2SIO is a fantastic alternative to a HDD for a ps2 slim. A 1tb micro sd card stores my collection and then some
On the slim model depending on model #, can scratch your disks due toan interior ribbon being loose by time. but there is a fix modding to keep that ribbon from being loose. id look into that slim #model amd doing some modding.
Slim 7000 Series owner here. NEVER had any issues with my discs scratching or my console overheating (my cousin owns a 9000 Series, and his shut down due to overheating multiple times). Ive also had the best PS1 playback from my system. Recently the laser failed, Ill have to replace that
Of course if you put the disc in there like a BOT it will scratch. I’ve seen videos of people putting in a disc on a ps2 fat and the way they do it it’s mind blowing the tray doesn’t break from the pressure they put down on it while placing the disc/game
There is many versions of the slim. There is one that has the original ps1 processor like before that can do everything the big one can do. It’s the 70000 oness with the screw posts in the back.
Quick question tho I'm pretty sure both of them had backwards compatibility with PS1 games right? Or just one of em
All models except maybe really late models of the ps2 slim (2006 era 9000x models) can play any ps1 game. The CD player may get a bit worn out on any ps2 over time not to mention the disc itself not being up to snuff, but other than that any ps2 is good
My ps2 slim was been through 4 houses (through my siblings me, my sister who doesn’t take care of stuff, my brother, and me once again) I had no problems at all
Used to be playing this mans on my ahrd wood floor grinding on ghost rider thinking they had them hd graphics
"game incompatibility" being literally 1 game that requires an HDD 😂
my father had the slims but the slims don't last and he blew through few of them shortly
Can WWE Games have glitches due to scratches from playing on the Slim? Just wondering
Not sure why but I've always enjoyed hearing the og ps2 start up because of the fan noise.
What controller an adapter do you use for your ps2?
Ps2 slim scratched one of my discs, so I 3d printed a small tab to keep the ribbon cable down and it’s been fine since. Still sketchy though…
The slim only scratches if the ribbon cable in the disc drive gets loose, but it's not guaranteed
The phat has it's own issues, like dying lasers (most phats I come across that have never been opened up either can't read blue discs, gold discs, or movies), loud fans, slow boot up times, etc.
I own both and both have their own pros and cons, but with having close to 300 games, I've never had my slim give me issues with compatibility on any of them. Most people won't have that issue either
The ps2 might scratch your disc but the fat over heat easily so the disc will be really hot after a long game play
First map on SotN doesn't load right on my slim but after that it plays fine
Does it also play region wide games or just region locked games
The only issue I had with the slim was that for some reason, it couldn't play Xenosaga and some other dual layered disc. Lost count on the amount of times I went back and fourth to gamestop and even got a brand new copy of Xenosaga, and it STILL red screen. Both versions had compatability issues with PS1 games. Neither could play Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Red Asphalt. Red Asphalt it hung at the intro movie and MKT often had no audio.
Cool fact abt ps2 slims is that there’s software to play burned disks where as the og ps2 cant. No modding required. Patch your games with said software, open img burn, and burn to your hearts content on some dvds.
What can you do if you have an expandable hard drive?
So happy i got all my og consples and the game collection
When it comes to scratches, it depends on which slim, but even the bad ones rarley made disk breaking scratches, usally just circular ones that interupt the game a sec, or maybe make it take a few tries to launch lol. Either way a fart could scratch thoes disks. When it came to the hard drive expansion possibility, man its the ps2, I dont think Ill ever need that lol. I never heard of support issues for the slim, especially considering the slim came after, and was well known to be better built and have more reliable quality than the original, not to mention it sounds more like a fan than a jet engine. The scratch issue i think came from just how the ribbon mechanism worked.
With modding the hardware you can give the skin back everything the fat had but far smaller and more modern
I had a black PS2 slim and I loved it, I grew up with it. My beautiful ps2.
I wish i knew that sooner, i have been playing the ps2 slim for a long time, like i think 4-5 years, my games are fine with some small scratches but they read fine, but after seeing this video and looking it up, i am definitely gonna buy and switch to the fat model, also nice to see another dragon ball z bt player,
I saw Brook Wingman PS2 adapter to connect #PS5 DualSense on PS2🎉
It gave you an expansion bay for a hard drive, you have to buy it separately and change out the ide and molex for a sata interface