Was legalizing weed a mistake?
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2024
- A new disease called "cannabis hyperemesis syndrome" is on the rise due to increased marijuana use. In this video we explain the science behind what is going on. Some scientists think that the legalization of marijuana may be under threat, other think awareness is all the matters - let's see how it all plays out.
Written by: Gregory Brown
Edited by: Luka Šarlija
Drawings by: Max Simmons
Thank you to Marieka DeVuono, PhD for your help on this video.
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www.newscientist.com/article/...
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med.stanford.edu/news/all-new...
www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/health...
It's almost like everything needs to be done in moderation.
Right? What a surprise, who would've thought
i love breathing in moderation 😂 (just being a goof i totally agree)
quite literally everything. I got sober about a decade ago and I notice addictive behavior in people who are into almost literally anything. I personally had to give my finnances over to my brother as I started shopping and it was becoming an issue.
Who would've thought
Yeah, including met-
*breaking bad song starts playing*
“People are vomiting uncontrollably because of weed!”
Alcoholics: “first time?”
lmfao
Not the same. I've had alcohol poisoning, shit my pants and vomited all day the next day. But this is different someone near me had it and vomited all day unless she was in a hot shower for 2 weeks
*chuckling
Yet people still believe and want to pretend that weed isn't addictive at all..reap what you sow.
@@trophyscene5015True. It isn’t addictive in the chemical sense as in it doesn’t have any substances that is inherently addictive. But like porn, video games, and social media, weed is addictive in that way.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
Regular smoker for over 50 years I had something similar a few months back that happened every few days for a few weeks. I didn't see a doctor haven't seen one for decades. Have a variety of strains to switch between to reduce tolerance.
After realizing it was the gg 4 every time I was sick I then started inspecting the inside of the buds closely. What I found was small amounts of mold. And mold can cause headaches stomach cramps and vomiting.
I composted what was left from that plant. Haven't been sick since.
There is this place I use to visit where the budtenders would purposely sell moldy weed to people. Wouldn't the mold be killed in the combustion process though?
@@theghosttiger1446Heat doesn't destroy mycotoxins ubfortunately.
It’s almost like you should by legal marijuana that’s tested and QC
Or just learn to grow your own marijuana. Home cooked meals and home grown weed are the way to go. 😉
@@FreeThinker2024 I wish my man
Honestly, this increase in ER visits might not even mean an increase in total actual cases. Just now that it is not illegal, people are more willing to seek medical treatment instead of being fearful of what the authorities will do.
This is absolutely it
It's not like this condition is known to the average person, so most people won't link their vomiting to their use of weed. So this is highly unlikely to be the case.
@@10kanutt it's known to the average stoner here in Australia and the "weed sickness" has always been a thing between the daily weed smokers especially bong users here since the 90s at least, it definitely has a lot to do with eating habits and another thing about it is most people want to take a lot of really hot showers to feel better
I would agree with you in regions where possession is illegal, however in Australia possession or use alone has not been illegal for many decades in most states, you needed to have significant amount to be in trouble (ie. you were a dealer).
The uptick of hospitalizations in Australia appears to coincide with an increase in use, not how comfortable people are to go to hospital.
CHS is just reefer maddeness all over again. I've had stomach issues since I was born. A male with an Eating Disorder. I've been trying to get a diagnosis for 30 years, and nothing better than acid reflux.
Now whenever I go to the ER for vomiting, they ask if I smoke weed, and if I say yes they immediately call it CHS. Even when I try to explain that this has been going on LONG before, I even knew what weed was. Nothing. If you vomit and smoke weed, it's CHS. Of course, cases rise when you call ANYTHING dealing with vomiting as CHS.
“Weed shouldn’t be legal because it makes people throw up”
*looks at alcohol*
so alcohol should be illegal then?
@@danielz1666 nope I don’t think something should be illegal because some people take it too far.
Alcohol would be a class A drug if it were discovered today.
@@goku64100Not to mention people like me with chronic health issues that can’t really function without being medicated. I’m not talking simple back pain, I’m talking pure agony and being unable to step out of bed out of fear of how intense the pain would hit.
They had me on gabapentin for years till my body kept adapting to higher and higher doses, eventually getting to such a high dose that I couldn’t even sit up without getting dizzy and seeing the walls start to “breath”. My family has a history of addiction, so I refused to have any meds that would chemically hook me.
Ended up taking my mother’s gummies in the hope that they’d help, which they almost instantly did. Never was a drinker, never smoked or anything, let alone took a gummy before that. I’m not saying it “fixed me” but my quality of live hasn’t been this good since I was 12.
Weed makes life worth living, sure pain is still awful but I can always dose up on my bad flare ups. If it ever become illegal again, I probably wouldn’t “stick around” for very long.
@@richardbailey5541 I used to think this too but realized that alcohol is too easy to make to control it the same way as other hard drugs. It's not like you can buy a jug of apple juice, let it sit in your closet for a few weeks, and all of a sudden it's meth.
Long term smoker here, but living for 15 years in India. The plants we have here are non-hybrid and have lower levels of THC. The buds you have in North-America are sooo strong.
flower is childs play
@@JapaAppathis guy definitely dabs 😂
@@ronbergendee488 every hour on the hour
You know what, that shit got me sober, helps me with my Ed and confidence, and most of all helps block out CPTSD nightmares by not dreaming. This is the safest thing I’ve ever used,
and congrats to anyone staying sober and might use weed occasionally. Don’t let anyone dictate YOUR sobriety.
Just be safe, mindful, function, and know your limits ❤️
Well said.
Agreed.
Don't get blackout drunk, don't get scromit high.
You'd think it would be common sense
Its very sneaky though.
The symptoms actually don't always happen when you are high. So sometimes the connection between the two may be unclear at first.
Did you ever watch the video? It's not about getting too high. Is just randomly happens to some chronic users. As in people doing it all the time. 4+grams a day for a long time
also dont smoke 4 grams a day constantly!!!! who does that???
@@Justin-og9gu Agreed, but general rule of thumb is that any time you're taking pride in how high your tolerance is/how much you can consume, you're probably on your way to a bad time.
As a cannabis lover for over 40 years I can't imagine smoking 8 joints a day. I can't imagine smoking 4 joints a day. I can't even imagine smoking 2 joints a day. The flower today is so potent that just a couple puffs is all I need for multiple hours of effective results. If you overdo just about anything you will achieve a negative result. People need to learn to moderate their intake and everything will be fine.
I smoke a lot and you are 2000000% right
Lol 100%, all I took was 3 big puffs and I was good
smoking 8 blunts a day is actually insane lmao
@@Spaced0ut000 weel trust me is not when you are addicted, i can smoke 8 if don't control my self
@@SoulyG true, but i stg ive been smoking for 10 years and the most i ever had was 4 -5 blunts in a day but everyone handles their shit differently
So partaking in moderation rather than constantly trying to green out is the key to avoiding scrommiting. When I could still smoke the stuff it was a small amount. Enough to get a buzz and relax a bit on occasions.
I started doing drugs since my teenage. Got addicted to fentanyl for over 6 years. Fentanyl addiction actually destroyed my life. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 2 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
I've been looking to try shrooms for depression, just very difficult to get a
reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Sure of Dr.medshrooms
Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the morning after. So no hangovers. No depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now have a more calm mind
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
Cannabinoid hyperemesis*. As an ER nurse, you’d be amazed how many people present to the ER repeatedly with cannabinoid hyperemesis. This usually happens to long-term users and they either don’t want to accept or don’t believe this could suddenly arise after years of use.
FASCINATING!!!
Would this affect someone that smokes 3 joints per week? Or only heavy users?
What??? You mean to tell me the pot heads are in denial that their cruch is affecting them.
@@KavdaenMain Lmao chill out.
@@KavdaenMain As a daily partaker, we're not in denial that weed is affecting us, we're in denial about how weed is affecting us. There's a difference. Shouldn't a sober person be better off than a weedhead? Then why am I having to explain something so basic to you?
Doesn't the fact that weed is legal make the work of these researchers much easier? They have more and better data to work with since people don't fear legal retaliation. They could, eventually, inform the public about safe weed usage and its real consequences. Since, as you said, most of this research is done in placed where it is legalized, this may be the case.
BTW, I'm a frequent weed user and I love that your videos show the negative health effects of smoking pot. Better to be informed!
Weed isn’t federally legal so not as many studies have happened as i would’ve hoped for but as of this year, the government ordered exponentially more weed, mushrooms, lsd, dmt, etc than they usually would to be studied. Big step in the right direction
Edit: if you’re in the US
it is in Canada
@@Spartan0917Maybe for the US, but not all of us live there
sure, like alcohol, were thousands of lives are destroyed every month...
It wouldn't be a problem if it is treated like a drug, as it should be. It has both narcotic and therapeutic properties, which makes it much closer to being a controlled drug. Drug trials are routine, and that is the formal way of doing it.
We used to sell opium freely in the early industrial era and paid a massive price, probably why we became so hostile to weed.
Thank you for posting!!! I grew up with a stoner step dad and specialists never knew what was wrong. More research has come out and years later my now ex boyfriend was diagnosed with this. It answered so many questions for me because I realized he had all the symptoms my stepdad had. The oddest but most telling similarity was that the only thing to ease the symptoms was a hot bath. So many nights I remember my step dad in the tub. I told my boyfriend after a bad episode that I’d leave him if he didn’t stop smoking. I grew up watching my mom suffer taking care of my step dad and I wasn’t about to follow that path. I love weed, but if you’re a lifelong chronic smoker, know it’s really know worth this.
I've smoked everyday for 20 years and don't have this occurring. There are nuances to this life it's not as black and white as "If you do X then Y will happen".
Everyday smoker for fifty years, smoking one now, never have I ever seen anyone affected by this condition. I think it’s young people just being stoned and stupid.
Crazy thing is I just learned about CHS. Everything thats going on with me seems to be what others are experiencing. And I've been soaking in hot baths lately as it's been the only thing to really subside the pain.
When my kidneys were acting up two years ago I was heating my back with a heating pad.
That is absolutely true about the only thing easing the symptoms is a hot bath, when I had cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, that happened to me too
@@user-dj6hu9gq4tit's not. Some people can't handle their weed, just as some people can't handle their alcohol. This isn't generational, or anything like that, but it also doesn't effect many people, which is why you haven't met anyone who suffers from this. Either way, it's not the fault of the marijuana, but the person who's trying to get high. It's like saying planes are bad because some people can't fly them due to poor eyesight.
I used to work at an edible place and someone did get sick from doing too much! They were eating edibles on an empty stomach every single day and not having appetite for months so it was really just a matter of time. Hopefully people figure out how to chill instead of overdosing themselves
can't imagine taking an edible and not having an appetite, these damn gummies in my cabinet are the reason i can't lose weight lmao
Learning how to chill is hard, a lot of us hate ourselves and we all know that being around someone you hate all the time is stressful.
that compounded with the amount of marijuana never been consumed like this. this is the equivalent to throwing away all beer and only having moonshine every time you drink. Weed was never meant to be this strong, it was something kids smoked in the 60s and now has to be the strongest strand known to mankind enough to put you into a coma of euphoria
an edible place.. like a gingerbread house?
@@Ristaakthe realest comment so far
As a near-daily cannabis user for the past few years, I can say I've definitely felt nauseous at times and even started oversalivating, which typically happens before someone vomits. But I've never actually vomited. I just stopped smoking for the day and would be fine the next. It's definitely important for people to exercise moderation, especially as more people use cannabis to self-medicate
"self-medicate" as in toxic coping mechanism?
@@krisp1871judge much?
@@krisp1871 shhhh, no as in people have chronic pain that doctors have no idea what to do with. and even medicine that you are given isn’t enough and this is the only thing that gives relief. especially late in the evenings when exercise and such isn’t exactly an option anymore. broaden your thinking bro.
Just drink lots of water it works for me
@@krisp1871U gonna fix my autism?
A+ In 2011 my wife read about that Australian study. We thought it was everything from mold in the wall to bug bites but I have had CHS since 2006. I quit and it went away. I've since started smoking again. I've been able to "moderate" with quality concentrates instead of flower. If I go overboard it will still bite me, but it seems easier for me to keep track of with the concentrates. Great video! Thanks for sharing! More serious stoners need to know about this!
I have CHS. I promise you, even with moderation, it will come back. Keep this comment in the back of your mind, and come back to me when you inevitably have another episode. I'll be waiting.
i started smoking in 2019 and in 2021 is when the fits started getting bad. i've been hospitalized for diagnosed with CHS everytime. these puking fits would last days until i did go to the ER and i'd be puking every 5-30 mins. the worst stomach pain i'd ever felt. and the only thing that helped ironically was the weed, but i was too sick to even think about smoking. i'm so glad this is being talked abt
I had this happen to me, I was a heavy smoker for about 15 years, the last 5 years i would get intense bouts of sickness, sometimes lasting up to 5 days, just constant puking, I thought i was going to die a few times honestly, after I heard this could be the cause I slowed down my intake and it seemed to help, I've been weed free or over a year now and haven't had the problem since, just watch how much you smoke people! save it for a good time not use it for a long time!
Wow, fascinating thanks for sharing
I am curious about how much you were using? Flower or concentrate?
@@elephantoflight3362 I smoked the buds, skunk not pot/hash. I live in the UK where it isn't legal, I was smoking about 4 pretty packed joints per day on weekdays and about 6-7 on weekends
I'm a medical smoker so if this happens to me I am screwed either way.
@@Moostery 6 years + med patient. It's just dumb dumbs that smoke or eat too much with the rare accounts of adverse effects. 1g concentrate a week avg. Personal accountability is what is lacking. The higher the THC, the less I use. Balance.
It’s nice to see weed related diseases being taken more seriously. I wish there was more research on its relationship with anxiety. For myself and a lot of other people, once I started getting older, weed just made me anxious instead of feeling fun/good. It made it really easy to quit but I’ve always wondered why that was the case.
I have a friend and he doesn't smoke for that same reason. My guess is that just like how some drugs are effective for some but not others is the same reason, everyone's bodies are just different. Stinks that you get too anxious but I've had times where I'll get super anxious too, but Its usually due to my mindset and what I'm thinking about.
I've never liked weed for it's 'feel good' component. I honestly don't enjoy being high. I do like it because it calms my anxiety significantly. I've been on 10 different sleeping medications and nothing helped compared to weed.
Just slows my brain down enough to relax, really helps when I'm overstimulated (public areas) and when trying to sleep. Purely an anxiety medication for me
It affects everyone differently based on how/why they're using it. I use a tiny amount because of my low tolerance (0.05-0.1g vaped) at bedtime, infrequently use 2x in a day
From 17-29. I was your typical stoner, high every hour of every day, legit 24/7. Not a sober day in those 12 years. Always thought i was just a naturally anxious being. I had to quit for probation and not even 6 months without smoking, and my anxiety became almost non-existent. And my social anxiety was the worst. Going in public alone was never an option. I couldn’t even go into a store, or a corner shop, not even a drive-thru. Pretty pathetic, but real life.
I’ve always had some social anxiety within me, but over time it progressed to that.
I always thought weed was helping me, but eventually it became the reason it was so bad to begin with.
Never went back to smoking like that.
I support it in moderation. But do i think people need to smoke, every day, all day? Absolutely not. It’s pointless, a waste of productive time, and a waste of money. Haha
Andrew Huberman made a video about the effects of cannabis.
I don’t remember exactly why, but he said there’s commonly a flip that happens for chronic users and they’re even 4x more susceptible to things like depression
This happened for me too. But I’ve been able to use it again since I started looking into the terpenes of weed and being VERY careful about what I use.
Now I stick very exclusively to indicas (bc they just tend to have a terpene profile that works better for me) and I also try to find ones that have CBD in them (like 1:1s). Having CBD in there seems to help neutralize the unpleasant THC effects.
That and of course making sure to not ingest too much right off the bat. They make edibles that are infused (later in the process) with strains with specific terpenes and extra CBD and those have been a godsend. I don’t have to smoke and I can tightly control my dose. The process of making edibles apparently ruins terpenes, so the only way to re-include them is by adding something later in the process I guess.
Honestly I’m so glad I did give it another try, too, because cannabis helps me SUBSTANTIALLY with my mental illness, physical pain, and sleep issues. But yeah I’d love to know more about why that change happens as we get older!!!!
I have no problem just all of a sudden not smoking weed. No withdrawal symptoms at all.
The addiction thing to me is purely psychological. I may smoke weed every day for a very long time and then just one day not fancy smoking it, or maybe I run out of it, and it's not a problem at all.
Same here. Never have a problem when I travel for days or weeks at a time.
This is an amazing video very well written and proformed. Im gonna look at your other videos but i think im gonna subscribe to your channel.
I'm 51 and have smoked heavily with few breaks since I was 19. Never once experienced this condition or met anyone else who has.
I have CHS. I also spent many years making extracts for a living and trafficking bud/BHO and have smoked more than most. My point in saying that is that pretty much everyone I've associated with the last 15 years is a stoner and I only know 3 people who for sure have this, including myself. It's real, just somewhat rare imo. Also, the details and severity of CHS seem to differ from person to person.
I got it from thcp.
I believe that. Old skool smoke better plant cause they are lower thc unlike nowadays. Especially when these illness came from a heavy thc. Ive also seen comments each time the younger one that diagnosed but oldskool will comment like this guy👆🏻. Moderation is key.
Happened the first time I smoked - was very excessive smoking though.
@@AsibadabidaAsiIm actually 18 nd started smoking when i was 15, havent had this once. infact weed helps me eat as well as making me less anxious
Just answered all of my questions in under 7 minutes. Been seeing different doctors for almost 2 years dealing with these symptoms and every doctor has looked at me like I'm nuts. Thanks!
L doctors😂
Warm baths offer temporary relief.
Your best bet is to stop cold turkey until your symptoms go away. Then if you miss it you can do like I did and use in moderation.
Avoid gravity bongs, dabs, anything that people use to force as much weed in their body as fast a possible. Its unnecessary and way more likely to cause a CHS problem.
Pretty sure you have some other issue causing this, or at least interacting with the weed in a bad way. I have smoked for 21 years, and I have never heard of this.
hey man i had these symptoms 2 years ago and this video exactly explains what happened to me smoked too much and couldnt eat would throw up water and go for hot showers for relief but itll hit hard after my recommendation is to lay off the weed man trust me i stopped and increased my food intake after 2 months u should be fine to smoke again just dont forget to eat
Sounds like it's affecting more than your stomach if you've had this issue for 2 years and never put two and two together.
Governments need to realize that "regulating" recreational cannabis doesn't just mean taxing the hell out of the revenue generated from it, but QUALITY CONTROL as well. Not just anyone should be allowed to grow and sell the stuff.
One of my best friends had this issue. She had surgeries and multiple week long hospital stays and was diagnosed with gastro paresis. Then one day she found a Reddit forum talking about this and quit smoking and hasn’t had issues since. It’s crazy how real this can be.
IT is a form of GURD, My mother had it, and she's never touched marijuana. And she was magically better after coming to the hospital too. Ain't that why hospitals are 4?
You are thinking of a different syndrome, cyclic vomiting syndrome. They are distinctly different. @@DannyLeeOGT
@@DannyLeeOGT you're not getting it.
@@DannyLeeOGT ya dumb as hell, danny...
I have it. I had it for years before I was diagnosed. I wound up in the ICU with renal failure. I quit smoking in 2015 and except for one time when I had the flu, I haven't vomited since.
I like how "cannabis hyperemisis syndrome" just literally means "what happens when too much weed inya blud"
i have it it aint that bad and it isnt like 247 its only in the mornings for me
@@warzonii it be making me think im laced then I remember how strong tree is these days it's just not the same as 2018
@@Dj_Rancho6448 You have never had original White Widow or real Super Skunk from the 90's, it was at least as potent as these allegedly 25% + strains of today. To much inbreeding and sole focus on THC did not make weed better
I like how "cannabis hyperemisis syndrome" implies they actually can exclude the possibility it's pesticides, synthetic nutrients or mold etc causing this phenomenon
@@Dj_Rancho6448I miss pre covid weed
I've had serious gastroparesis since 2001 and have many ER visits for uncontrollable vomiting and many nurses have tried to say it was due to cannabis use when it obviously wasn't.
I’ve got this only after two years of smoking. I only ever smoked flower, never anything else, but I went super hard the last 8 months. Had 2 CHS episodes in that period, I’d rather die than ever go through that again, been clean 5 months.
I was diagnosed with CHS. It is honestly the most agonizing thing. I was severely underweight and had no idea what was wrong with me. I was hardcore in denial about it for about a month and then i quit. It was one of the hardest things I've done but after about 2 weeks it was like night and day. I wasnt an anxious mess and i wasnt having to lay in the shower everyday from the pain..best decision ive ever made
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Sounds like you were just anorexic.
Lay off the weed man
They did @@omgstephen98
@@omgstephen98 she did lol, she said it
I have smoked daily for almost 30 years and had NEVER heard of this or seen anyone affected by it.
Its moderation, most pot smokers wont ever be affected
It sounds like people don't know when to quit after getting stoned or baked. 4g's a day might be excessive to some. (unless you're a rapper! 😂)
That's because this is complete bullshit.
I've known a few people over the years who thought they were allergic to weed. It was probably CHS. Maybe those of us who started smoking way back in the day when nobody could find, much less afford, 4 grams a day allowed our system to get accustomed to it over time.
@@angeladansie4378 That's a pretty sound theory man.
Started smoking in 1976. Never had any issues with it myself, but I certainly never smoked more than 2 doobs a day.
I can roll one and take a few hits and put it out. I have no idea why someone would continue after the first few hits, because that's all you need to get the effects.
Look. I live in BC. I've known many people like this. Its complicated cause many long term users have disgestive issues. But consuming those volumes is pretty normal for a BC stoner. Impacts some but majority no... And honestly helps you keep moderation in mind. Thanks for the info!
I got misdiagnosed with this in the ER while waiting to get in with a gastroenterologist. for me I had an unknown gluten intolerance, GERD, IBS, and a hiatal hernia. so frustrating being handed pamphlets on literal rehab when I needed an actual endoscopy and a specialist 😅
Yes !!! Yess! Finally !! Somerone who had the same issue! I've been hospitaled twice and my dr's want to say i have chs and won't even consider that i have for years been treated for anexity, gerd, ibs, have a hietal hernia, and possibly chrons. i think i have cyclic vommitting. problem is i see a gastro and still don't have an answer. i will say this even tho i think i have cvs and not chs i am willing to say the chs is a possiblity but the symptoms dont line up nearly as well as cvs
@@fluffyashes i saw a thread on twitter today saying nausea meds don't work on cannabinoid hyperemesis. zofran, pantoprazole, and GERD meds (at different points) all helped. not eating gluten also helped immensely lol. the gastro didn't even entertain the ER's diagnosis, honestly. I was crying from hunger, dehydration, pain, and frustration and they said "aw, I know, it's a cycle isn't it" 🤬 they gave me milk of magnesia that didn't help lol.
@@milor6138 what fixes it for me is iv protonix and zofran. I take oral protonix daily and have oral zofran as needed to prevent the cycle. Have been on protonix and bentyl from gastro for years before this
Omg, I had the same thing and an ovarian cyst a couple times that was blamed on this!
@@MoonWomanStudios now that you mention that I did have an ovarian cyst burst ~5 months afterwards. it caused horrible pain but my PCP/obgyn wouldn't order imaging and blamed it on my ptsd 🤙🏻 completely awful. cannabinoid hyperemesis is almost always a lazy diagnosis to get people out of the ER.
I went to the ER once after smoking (hours prior) and they diagnosed me with cannabis hyperemesis but I actually had Norovirus, which was completely unrelated to my cannabis intake.
Awesome video! Your graphics are amazing!!!!!
People need to learn that too much of anything is a bad thing. Doesn't matter how good it is
I got it after only 6 months of regularly smoking back in 2020. Extremely unlucky and scary considering I was essentially dying of dehydration after throwing everything up including bile. Lost so much weight and had to get help to get my health back to normal. for a year or 2 after diagnosed even smelling weed would upset my stomach immediately and my night out was essentially over. Only "cure" is to stop smoking all together. I quit the minute my doctor told me I could be hospitalized. Love seeing this get more light bc nobody I know knew what CHS was until I told them. Im not anti weed at all tho, just love the awareness to what could happen to the unlucky few.
Totally agree with your last sentence. I have nothing but sympathy for people who are in this neverending cycle and smoke more to deal with the morning nausea. I dont think weed is bad, but a detox is def needed and some people might benefit from lowering the doses of thc they ingest. recently ive been trying to experiment with lower thc but consuming other cannabinoids. Our weed is so strong nowadays lol
"This is literally the cause of the problem but oh no it's not bad. 🥺" FFS you're all ridiculous. 😂😂😂
@@MusicLoverInTheSky Peanuts are the cause of peanut allergy, which can be fatal. Does that mean peanuts are bad?
@@AzafTazarden 1) They're not the cause, they're the trigger. Very different things. 2) How many people are allergic to peanuts and how many suffer from usage of recreational drugs? 3) Nice try. 😂
@@MusicLoverInTheSky We get it you have a differing opinion, but why be a condescending asshole about it?
I’d be interested in seeing where these people affected are getting their supply of marijuana (home grown, government, etc) and how that changes things.
exactly! I bet the information would be very interesting
Or how many doctors just saw it in their system and just lazily said it was that.
Or how many are just trying it out and got paranoid after a bad experience.
Exactly I've never heard this from street dealers
Right?! This is straight up propaganda.
I'd be interested in wether these people took a certain medication recently...
For anyone thinking about smoking weed: I was stuck in a bubble and pushed away anyone who even made the slightest comment about me smoking weed. I had no idea I was such a pain to be around and that it had changed my behavior. There was no way for anyone to get me out of it, because I could not see that I was stuck. The only way was to ride it out until it went completely wrong. Losing my friends was the least of my problems compared to the mental health issues weed caused me, and I still have to deal with that 11 years later. It is always good to share the personal downsides of drugs, because the people who say that it is nothing but positive, will scream the loudest and ignore the people spiraling out of control in the process. It is such a big risk for undiagnosed people...which can be anyone. Sure it can have positive effects for certain people, but don't gamble on it. If you or any direct family have mental health issues, than don't just start doing drugs. Take this from someone with schizophrenia and other psychosis related problems triggered because of weed.
Appreciate this vid, lower quality bho is what causes this for me, seems life threatening tho when you can't sleep eat or breathe tho
My brother got affected by this. I remember looking it up and found a some forum post that mentioned that neem oil poisoning shares similar symptoms. Neem oil being a pesticide used in some weed farms
had stomach issues for years. also been a smoker for years. doctors told me it was related to my weed use, and although i told some of the doctors that i did not smoke they all assumed this was what was bothering me. i was in pain and vomiting uncontrollably for months on end. I even gave up smoking for months as well, nothing seemed to help. turns out my appendix was inflamed and i had to have an emergency surgery. glad there is research on this subject, but doctors seem to lazily slap it onto patients in some cases such as mine. i am a heavy smoker, and fortunately have not smoked until ive had to scromit.
I don’t have an appendix. Could’ve simply been appendicitis, & not the weed. I’m an avid smoker since 16, appendectomy was done at 13…doubt it was the weed. I’m 25 now
I think they probably slap it on anything too. My friend was old and really underweight already. Its a syndrome, not a disease. But it is not hard to quit when you make up your mind.
Why was your appendix inflamed?
scromitting is terrible
Occam's razor and NAXALT; 9 times out of 10, it is not ebola or monkeypox, it is a common flu that shall pass but every now and then there will be an outlier that has matches with something in the media or in the minds of the collective hivemind.
shiiiiiiit. Thanks man. Ive been consuming for years daily, around 1-2G around 30% THC+. I felt like it was fine, but now i know what i need to look out for. Thanks man!
It's one of two things:
1) Inexperienced cannabis users are consuming far too much, causing them to become dizzy and disoriented, resulting in nausea and vomiting which is actually pretty common, especially with giant collage sized bongs.
2) Chemical fertilizers that haven't been properly flushed from the plant are being ingested, which some people have a severe sensitivity towards. Mind you, these chemicals are carcinogenic and make the weed taste terrible, and burn unevenly with black ash. Always go for clean, well flushed, organic flower and avoid larger industrial scale producers that will cut corners at scale.
one more potential cause: the munchies. Overeating, especially in conjunction with the other stated factors, can cause someone to throw up
It's actually the natural pesticide called neem that causes this.
with CHS u will feel sick for weeks and sometimes months after taking weed, not only while high
The argument was always you have to take so much to od but the strains are getting more powerful everyday
Youd have to smoke your body weight. We arent making strains that can actually kill someone physically
We've reached pretty much peak strength for cannabis at this point I think. Unless you start going into concentrates. But you're not wrong either. I know a lot of people who were getting "good shit" from their dealers and figured that they'd go with the strongest strains at the stores. A lot of them got absolutely messed up by how strong those were since the internet keeps saying legal strains are trash... Not that there wasn't any strong strains on the black market either, but anecdotally, it seems like people really overestimated the quality of what was going around before legalization, at least in Canada.
People are dumb. Just smoke less
You still won't be able to OD. If anything people reach psychotic breaks before any sort of physical overdose. However, with the huge THC content and non-existent CBD content, there's evidence being discovered that those ratios can actually create some sort of physical dependency. Not just mental anymore.
@@qwerfa Oh most definitely. I'm 38 and STILL hear arguments from people like Dead Heads who claim the weed so much better in the 60's-70's and I"m like, "there's NO WAY weed was stronger growing illegally in a random field versus a heavily monitored controlled grow farm.
I’ve had 2 CHS episodes. The last episode was the worst. I had severe abdominal pain that not even pooping could help. Eventually, there was nothing in my system to poop out because of the constant need to vomit, which then became dry heaving. I felt like I was dying and sounded like I was dying to everyone else 😅. All of this went on for a few hours until I went to the ER. There, they gave me an IV and some sort of steroid pills to ease the swelling in my esophagus. Felt better after another few hours and then went home. All of this happened overnight.
CHS affects a percentage of heavy smokers. I was taking bong rips several times a day, just feeling medium. I also didn’t drink enough water throughout my day to support this habit. Be careful with how much you smoke. You can still smoke (at least I can), but everything in moderation. Drink lots of water and eat your green vegetables 👍🏼
There are 3 stages:
Prodromal, Hyperemetic, and Recovery.
If you are feeling symptoms, chill out on the weed and purge on water. Don’t overthink if you might have one either because anxiety may be able to trigger more symptoms. You're body is most likely digesting, or maybe you ate something recently that is upsetting your stomach. Whatever you do, resist the urge to throw up as much as you can when in these moments.
Thank you for this advice. My roommate had this syndrome, but he always told me weed had no side effects and was perfectly healthy. I've always avoided it because when I get high I get anxious, but I never judged him for smoking. Then recently, he started getting like this and I didn't know what to do or why. I think this might be why and I'm gonna ask him to see a doctor about it, but until then I wanna use these tips to help him feel better !
@@cakiepop2038 glad that helped!
I've been smoking weed for 20 years, I don't know anyone who have been throwing up from it.
This syndrome is a hoax. It is actually caused by the use of insecticides derived from Neem oil, used to deal with spider mites in indoor grows. This builds up in the body over time and causes the symptoms. It has been known for several years.
Loooong time heavy user here. This really is a thing. Definitely have had random pukes with seemingly 0 reason. Didnt even feel sick. Moderation is key guys 👌🏻
People need to realize that everyone reacts differently ..
Consuming 4g a day, everyday, in any form is just an absurd amount of cannabis. I also think having such a high amount of THC on the market doesn't help either. 20% and higher is waaaaaay to much. Recently a dispensary near me started selling "old school" weed that's got around 6% THC and 15% CBD. Its a great option, and definitely going to be my choice moving forward.
Right?? Some dispensaries in Winnipeg have started selling weed rolled in hash or whatever, it's like 45-50%!!! Absolutely insane
Louis CK actually has a GREAT bit about weed today v weed back then.
4g is,, not that much to smoke for a super heavy stoner lol,,😅😅😅
I don't know how much is a normal amount, but that's the problem. Limits would be nice to keep people from getting sick. Lower amounts might help people understand how much is too much, although there will always be people who want to overdo it because they're self treating some mental health issues.
@@aellalee4767 i smoke half or 2/3 of a joint like every 2-3 hours each with like 0.3g of weed with a bit of tobacco (not really much because tobacco can knock me down easy) so around a gram a day maybe. In my mind i am smoking all day every day but I am pretty sure I am in the low end of the graph about heavy users :D
I had to quit back in 2021 because of CHS. I was using a pen everyday for 8 months straight. One night I did my typical routine and suddenly felt really shaky, weak, and sick to my stomach. The pain and extreme nausea lasted for a week straight until I finally went to the ER and got some IVs. If you do smoke, please stay hydrated and TAKE TOLERANCE BREAKS. A couple years later I still can’t smoke without the nausea and weed induced anxiety kicking in quickly
The same exact thing happened to me but no one believed me , thank you so much for speaking about you experience now 7 months weed free 🙏
You can’t smoke ever again or you will get sick again. We can recover from chs but it never goes away meaning once we start using again we will get sick again.
I'm the exact opposite situation. 20 years of trying to get a diagnosis for my eating disorder, now everyone wants to call CHS. Even stopped smoking and vomiting increased. Weed was the only medication that works. So I have to continue smoking. But now I can't see any doctor or admit I smoke or else they just believe I have CHS.
I will have to live my life undiagnosed solely due to propaganda of CHS.
Sounds like a panic attack?
This homeostasis imbalance is an indirect effect connected to two major things, and a few other factors that you mention. The two major components are;
1) mental health, specifically negative emotional states such as depression and anxiety. This can lead to overuse and a lack of moderation. Much like the cycle of use an alcoholic (or other drug user) might experience. Not specifically connected to younger people, but more specifically an immature cognitive function. As you mention this effects the body's hormonal balance, in a similar way that other drugs cause a dependence (as opposed to an addiction).
2) genetically modified crops and chemicals used in (especially) commercial growing/pest control that create a microbial and hormonal imbalance. It's a similar set of reactions coming together as someone that gets sick in a similar way when they have a terrible diet, full of edible crops farmed mono-culturally using these disruptive chemicals (especially corn and other grains, legumes, and even coffee, for example) usually processed into convenience or fast foods/drinks.... which compounds the issue with those that binge on such foods when they get the munchies. But a compounding factor that someone observing a carnivore diet will not experience, unless they are exposed to these chemicals in other ways.
Many people develop a similar reaction to alcohol made from cheap ingredients, such as Durham Wheat. I have been looking into this type of thing for over a decade, because I became so ill I was literally dying and couldn't function or look after myself properly. I had to make drastic changes to my lifestyle and my mental health, or my mental health and my lifestyle, because at that stage it had become a vicious cycle that needed to be broken before I couldn't get out of bed at all and wasted away into nothing.
That scromitting, (or however you say it) is similar to the uncontrollable vomiting that someone might experience with alcohol poisoning.... not pleasant, let me tell you.
I have CHS but it doesn’t make me vomit. It just gives me intense pressure in my left rib cage and gives me a feeling like I’m having a heart attack. I had CHS for 3.5 years and then finally decided to quit and I’m coming up on 3 weeks clean and I’m so happy I don’t have to be sick anymore. I wish I could still smoke but it’s sooo not worth the pain.
Please mention the temperature symptoms! When you have CHS you almost always CRAVE heat like a warm bath. Like uncontrollably crave it and it temporarily relieves the nausea when nothing else works. Its one of the ways you can tell it apart from other illnesses with similar symptoms.
I had a CHS episode way back before ER docs knew what to call it. I still smoke but less volume and so far have been feeling well for 5 years since my episode. I love to tell my friends since often they have never heard of it. CHS was some of the sickest I've ever been. Unable to keep down food for 11 days.
Agreed. A hot shower was the only thing that helped. This shit is real and very scary when it happens.
*fist bump*
Yep, was taking 2-3 showers each hour around the clock during my vomitting episode. Sleep, wake, vomit, shower, gatorade, sleep x30-40 times a day.
This is exactly how I found out that’s what I was experiencing. I felt like I was a fish outta water. 😂 but then I was waterlogged. I lived in the shower with steam for days until I connected everything together. Moderation is the key to everything
Same, I think something that people haven't examined is HOW you smoke might make a difference too.
I wasn't smoking a huge amount when I got CHS but I was using a gravity bong.
After going to the ER several times, I stopped smoking for several years. I eventually started again but in addition to moderation I decided never to use gravity bong again. No problems even after smoking daily for the past few years.
Yes! I keep telling my Dr's that heat makes it so much worse which is why i think i have cyclic vommiting instead of hyperemesis. I thought the hot shower thing was a well known symptom of chs? I'm worried my dr's want to keyhole me with chs instead of even considering cvs. it's such a catch 22 the symptoms that give me the cvs are medicated by the substance they are telling me is causing the issue. Depending on if its chs or cvs they're right
i was diagnosed with this back in 2020 but i didn’t quit smoking. It’s been about 3 years and i haven’t had a vomiting episode.
I saw this as a nursing student a while back and had never heard of it before and living in a not so weed friendly location I thought it was BS at first. When I got home and looked more into it, I was intrigued. The thing i remember most from this patient was the doctor having to perform rounds on him in the shower because it was the only place he could find relief and stop vomiting. Thanks for shedding more light on this.
I really don't understand "if they stop vomiting in the shower, it must be CHS."
Do people not understand a cold or hot bath can help shock you out of a lot? A hot shower can reduce a heart attack. A cold shower has been used to cure hangovers for a millennia. Ei vomiting caused my alcohol.
CHS is completely made up. We are the first generation to only be eating processed food. There's thousands of studies showing how the unhealthy food we eat is causing adverse effects. Two Crack pot studies pointing to weed as the culprit and everyone jumps on board.
More people are smoking, and more people are open about it. Correlation does not mean causation.
Please don't believe this propaganda. I'm not sure if he knows it is or not, but this is 110% made up and does not exist. Both studies have been debunked and proved biased.
I've smoked regularily since 1996 and have never had any problems. I doubt I ever will.
Yes, I am currently dealing with this atm, feel nausea, feel like throwing up, and belly pain
I'm Dutch and I like a joint every once in a while as well ;).
Marihuana has been condoned here in the Netherlands for almost 40 years. Yet, the Dutch do not know many cases of Cannabis hyperemesis syndrome. After watching the video I did a little bit of reseach about what's known in th Netherlands on the websites of the Dutch drug-information institutes and even institutes that combat drug-use or treat addiction in the Netherlands, like Jellinek, state that cases are very rare, though it might be that there are more cases, but misdiagnozed. Furthermore they state that taking a warm bath can relieve the symptoms and quiting the use of marihuana immediately stops the symptoms all together. Excessive showering and hot bathing is also done often by people who have developed CHS. Still, it hardly appears here, even though smoking or ingesting marihuana products is relatively socially accepted here and has been done for a long time.
Pharmaceutic companies and many doctors actually would like a full legalization, due to the potentials for new medication that aren't allowed to be researched at this moment.
Studies on especially CBD that have been done do show amazing resultst for cancer, Parkinsons, Alzheimer and depressed patiënts and people with ADHD (and more).
I'm speculating why there is such a rise of CHS cases in countries that only recently condoned or legalized marihuana, like the US, Australia and Canada, compared to countries that have condoned/legalized it for decades, like the Netherlands and Portugal.
It might be that the composition in American marihuana is different, like way more THC or CBD. I know the marihuana here is checked here to ensure not too much THC or CBD are present. This system is quite flawed though: there's only a check on the sold marihuana from stores (which we call "coffeeshops") and not on the level of production (which ironically is illegal).
So there's a lot of weed and hasj going around that exceeds the allowed limits. Still, most of the marihuana products aren't contaminated (much) with other chemicals. Many other countries like Spain and Portugal also have systems of condoning/legalizing marihuana use and also here there is strict supervision in the composition and distribution (better and stricter than in the Netherlands). Maybe this is different in the US and Canada (and Australia)? I honestly don't know much about the production, composition, consumption, sale or checking procedures of marihuana outside of Europe. So I can only guess here.
Or possibly there are behavioural differences, like perhaps American users just use more marihuana or in higher dosis in one sitting than the Dutch, which might explain the difference in cases?
The average Dutch(wo)man has a more physically active lifestyle than the average American (we cycle and walk A LOT and cities and villages are designed to suit cyclists and pedestrians rather than cars). Also, most Portuguese walk a lot and have a relatively active lifestyle. Maybe having a better stamina and physical condition reduces the chance of developing CHS? It does work that way with many other ailments, both physical as biochemical. I mean, eating a lot of meat and having a sedentary lifestyle increases the chance on heart failure and arthritis more than eating loads of meat, but exercizing a lot (cholesterol and vit A)(though switching up some of that meat for veggies would be waaay healthier :P). Spending all your time indoors increases the likelyhood of a depression more than when you take a long hike outside in the sun every day (vit D). Maybe CHS works similar? Is there any information about other binding (behavioural/genetic) factors in the known cases? Or is there a specific group of users that is statistically more likely to get it? Or maybe even environmental influences?
Or perhaps American doctors are just easier to freak out over drug related ailments? Or the European doctors don't freak out enough and therefore miss cases?
Maybe the Americans visit their hospitals straight away when vomiting, while most Europeans have to visit their physicians first for non-life-threatening ailments, before being send to the hospital? I don't know
I do hope you guys let us know more, once more information becomes available, I'm curious :). Love the channel, keep it up :D
Very interesting ideas 😊
You have s lot of interesting questions. Definitely worthy of some research.
As I understand. There's a big difference in what types are accessible and how potent. Between North America and Europe.
When I was younger, I would occasionally smoke weed at parties.
Every single time I smoked while drunk. I puked, as soon as the weed started worked.
Whereas if I only started drinking after being Stoned, I never had a problem.
Don't know if that's a general thing. And if so, if theres a difference in how alcohol and weed is generally consumed in different countries, that could be part of the discrepancy you mention.
I'm from Denmark. Our alcohol culture is pretty insane, and cannabis is illegal. So we Don't have many studies from here.
I would read all that, but I wouldn’t do that to myself on a friday
These ideas are interesting and probably close to the truth.
Considering states where recreational weed is legal, the THC% can be quite high! Some states regulate the percent of TCH available for recreational vs medical use, where some states limit the type of product. For example, in my state, I can purchase 97% TCH in a vape, but I can't get 40mg TCH per gummy, and can only get 10mg THC per gummy. In another state, I can get concentrates (I'm new school, so I've heard "concentrates" described by old school people as being 'more potent than hash', and it comes in a form you have to melt without lighting on fire).
So, that + consider that the average American simply has more body fat and more sedentary lifestyle. Marijuana is stored in your fat, and bod fat effects how much you hold, and how much longer you hold onto it. Losing or gaining weight can also effect how the high feels/lasts.
If you have less THC overall, and the body isn't storing it as much, you won't be as likely to get sick from it. It IS hypothesized that the higher potency of THC is why we're seeing this more now, but it was possibly existent, but extremely rare in the past before marijuana was being bred and refined these ways.
I was morbidly obese and also was getting sick all of the time. I was doing a bunch of research into this. It wasn't the marijuana in my case, but I lost weight and cut back. Anecdotally, I've noticed that the weed does effect me differently now that I'm more active and have way less body fat.
Culture and enirnoment is everything
It’s almost like pumping the plants full of different chemicals to increase potency has caused some weird side effects.🤔
No this is directed linked to THC, not random foreign chemicals introduced to the Cannabis.
Its more complicated than that, there's many variables that goes into who get CHS besides chemicals added. Research definitely needs to be done on this.
I do remember the first time I had this happen to me, it sucked. I felt like crap for a whole day. Didn’t need to go to the doctor, just needed to get hydrated and lay down for a while. As other people have mentioned, “too high”. I’m also epileptic and deal with severe ADHD, so that may be a factor too. The last time I had that happen was back in high school when I was still a teenager and I’m over 40 now, so it’s been a LONG TIME.
My good friend got this syndrome after 30 years of regular use. The thing that tipped off his doctor was the fact that the only thing that seemed to help the nausea was sitting in the bathtub with warm water showering down on him. Apparently they’d heard that before in regards to this condition.
Been smoking forever and I’ve never thrown up or felt sick, the only time I’ve been close to throwing up is from coughing after a big hit or something, besides that I’ve personally never gotten sick or known anyone to get sick.
That’s what I’m saying, I probably breathe more Mary Jane than oxygen and never had an issue besides maybe 🤮 from coughing too hard which rarely happens
It's still better to be safe. A lot of people say they were fine and then suddenly they weren't. A lot of people are also saying that they couldn't go back to doing it after getting CHS. I'd say take their advice and take tolerance breaks and make sure to hydrate so you can keep enjoying cannabis and it's effects without having to worry about getting CHS one day.
Black market supply or a source you can trust that there are no pesticides or additives?
@@alexanderleuchte5132 a medical dispensary
this happend to me when i was a senior in high school and steadily smoked more and more until I was smoking 4 times a day. I ended up in the ER twice with uncontrollable vomiting and dehydration. needless to say I eventually quit smoking weed and felt like myself again after. Glad to see coverage on this syndrome because noone ever knows what I'm talking about when I say CHS.
It's a medical disease called "pusscake babywuss" it's a very serious and lifelong condition.
4 times a day! Rookie.
Many years ago, after a modification to my antidepressant regiment, before I realized what was going on, I had already begun experiencing nerve issues near my upper arms and legs. The day I found out, I had smoked a bowl to help with my nerves, and as a part of my routine, begun my morning meds. Very shortly after the pills settled in my stomach, I immediately and forcefully vomited medications that would have likely made my emerging serotonin syndrome worse to the point of seeking hospitalization. I was down for a few days afterward and made a healthy recovery without burdening our healthcare system listening to irrational patients while I drank cheap coffee in a group therapy room for a few days. Because of cannabis stigma, we may never know if the silent minority of people who are helped by cannabis is actually a silent majority when it comes to lower healthcare expenditures.
I've smoked weed for almost 10 years now, 1g joint every 3 days. Pauses every 2-3 weeks and I ve never felt any of this.
It's just like any other drug, if you smoke 10 cigarettes a day or if you drink 8 beers per day, eventually you're going to be sick
My boyfriend didn’t have an issue with marijuana until a few years ago. He didn’t partake regularly at all (when he did partake, it wasn’t in excess) and seemed to show up out of nowhere. All the symptoms described here is what he had gone through and it was bad enough of an experience that he won’t even chance with even the tiniest amount. I wonder if some people are predisposed to this disease/disorder based off other factors
Seems to be highly related to other stomach issues from what I’ve noticed. The few people I know who have it are very skinny and also have gastrointestinal issues like me lol
A few years ago, I began trying to stop smoking weed but found If I don’t smoke for more than a day I start to get nauseous. Goes away after about a week. My body definitely has developed some kind of reliance. Can’t be great.
I can Relate been smoking since my dad died and I can't go a day without being sober
Try getting a nausea medicine, and see if that helps you quit.
Modern strains (especially legal strains) have done their best to jack up the THC and dropping the CBD content as much as possible. There's also evidence (not nearly enough to call it a fact) that such a vast dichotomy in percentages creates actual physical dependence. Which would explode the long-held belief that THC isn't physically addictive.
You're not addicted, you just have nausea. You should actually see a doctor and not get medical advice from the Internet.
@@TypicalZamasuI am sorry to hear that, man. I know from my experience that, if you start smoking weed regularly as a trauma response because pot high makes you feel good, it’s a dangerous path, you build dependence. And It's not good.
Once I became aware of my dependence, I chose to fight the hard battle of withdrawal. I did cold turkey. The first 4 days were AWFUL. But I hold on to the sheer power of my mental will. And after 7 days, it got easier. I eventually completed a 2 month cannabis break. Now I enjoy smoking a joint once every 2-3-4 days.
My daughter has CHS. It took 2 yrs to diagnose her and she has 3 out of 6 of the rare symptoms such as, seizures, shock, and muscle spasms.
My doctor misdiagnosed me with this. Only had 1 symptom of it, vomiting. It wasnt as extreme as the disease describes, it was random, and almost always before or during work. He was a crappy doctor. I told him, I didnt think it was that, he didnt wanna listen. It ended up stopping when I quit my job. My job at the time was highly toxic, and I would get screamed at by managers and customers, daily. The scheduling manager also decided to make my life as inconvenient as possible, going as far as to say I can have a day off for an appointment, and then changing the schedule the literal day before to make me work that day. They also gossiped and spread lies bout me to other coworkers. Once I quit that job, everything was better. And I could still keep smoking (within moderation) 😊
He refused to change the diagnoses by the way, even after being proven wrong. He just dismissed it as weed addiction, and that I was being an "uncoroperative patient". Im in Colorado btw. So based on anti-weed doctors, Id question the prevalence.
I use it both recreationally and medicinally. Because of this I treat it like I treat alcohol or other migraine medications, respectively. Everything in moderation.
I use it socially, or when I'm trying to wind down after a rough day, like I would with a glass of wine.
If I'm having a migraine, I only take enough to manage the pain, which, for me, is low enough that I don't really feel high.
For me, microdosing has been very helpful. 3mg edibles is enough to relieve my pain (or one short hit from my pen if I need instant relief), and 5mg is enough to get me buzzed without being blitzed.
I was actually diagnosed with this and have quit smoking weed because of it. Best change I’ve ever made!
Good for you! Positive changes!
you started it yourself tho lol
@@dereknueveuno no one cares about your opinion. I’ve made changes and I’m proud of it you keyboard warrior
I been battling this for years . Happens to me like 2 times a year , horrible.
I need to quit smoking any tips ?? Thanks 🙏
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A close friend of mine got CHS and it was terrifying for her, she was vomiting everything for a few days because her body was purging all of the thc, and now she mixes cbd with the thc to mellow it out and not cause another episode. You can’t overdose on thc but that doesn’t mean you can infinitely stuff your body with it safely.
A person I know had this for several months. Several emergency room visits, no help, even though she stopped using marijuana. Then, her doctor asked her what she was using to intake marijuana. No one had asked her that. She had used a vape. The doctor told her to stop using a vape. Within a DAY she began feeling better. She has smoked marijuana in a regular pipe or joint since then with no recurrence of "scromiting." Before blaming marijuana, more questions need to be asked.
I got CHS last year. I’ve been smoking regularly for about five years and daily for two years. Worst two nights of my life. Thought I was gonna die. Was dehydrated from nonstop vomiting. Worst of all, I kept smoking trying to get some relief. I didn’t know it was CHS. I ended up in the emergency room and the doctor told me to lay off the grass for two months
I like you ❤
What happened after 2 months?
This is interesting. I was easily smoking as much as 4 joints/day in my early 20s. I had a med card, and convinced myself that cannabis was the best route to helping with depression. However, one day, I fell extremely ill after smoking. I got the spins, felt extremely hot, got tachycardia, and spent a good part of the night vomiting. I had had a few bad experiences from overdoing it over the years, but nothing came even close to that. It took me a while to smoke again after that, and most of the time when I would try to from then on (especially when taking edibles), those feelings would return even when I consumed very little. Being high became synonymous with extreme anxiety and nausea, and to this day I can't take more than a hit of a joint every couple months (and I usually regret it when I do).
What's more, I became a far more anxious person afterward. I had always had bouts of depression, but had never really experienced anxiety until that point-and unfortunately it's something that has stuck with me. It actually seems rather similar to PTSD in some ways. Anyway, what you're describing does sound pretty similar to what I experienced, and I've never really had a potential explanation for it until now, other than assuming I had some sort of mental breakdown.
Sounds like cannabis induced panic attack
Cannabis hypermieses syndrome Is the worst only 3/10 smokers get this , our body is basically allergic to it
My sister has to vomit just when exposed to the smell of marijuana. I had to pull my car over to let her vomit when the smell came wafting into my car via the AC vent from the car in front of us. The doctors say it's an allergy. She's also very sensitive to prescription drugs and a little affects her like a larger dose.
I was in a residential facility for youth with mental health and addiction issues back in 2020 and met someone with CHS who told me about how she spend days in the hospital vomiting uncontrollably and she said it was the worst experience ever. The result for her was essentially a cannabis allergy, if she has any at all, her body immediately rejects it and she ends up back in the hospital. She explained how she was in a car with her friends and the guy in the passenger seat lit up a joint while she was in the back and just from that, she ended up back in the hospital vomiting. She was a super heavy user, I’m not sure what age she started but she was only 16 when I met her in rehab, so she started young. Her story is the reason I’m far more conservative with my marijuana use, especially since I’m quite a bit smaller than her and have autism which has the potential to make weed affect me slightly differently since my brain’s a little different.
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I smoked weed every day for years. One day I couldn’t stop throwing up, went to urgent care and they told me I had CHS. they said more than half of the patients who came in uncontrollably vomiting were doing so due to weed, specifically the highly concentrated weed we have today.
I quit that day. It was horrible. I couldn’t hold down water for a couple days. I couldn’t hold down food for 5. I lost almost 30 lbs over two weeks. I’m 5’11” with a regular build and went from 160 to 133 lbs.
anyways, shit sucked.
Me too brother. Quitting was the easiest decision I’ve ever made
you where lied to becuase its not even a REAL disease its a made up one because drs are to lazy to find out the real reason why folks are picking but even folks who do not DO Canabus in any way are having bouts of this issue
Sorry you went though that. Did this episode just put you off weed because how horrible it was, or is it that once It happens to you the symptom is permanent any time you take it/smoke?
@@itsmeLori both. I wanted to continue smoking, but the doctors said that it would continue to happen if I did. I did some research and decided it wasn’t worth that risk.
Ugh i take cannabis for medicinal reasons it's the only thing that works for all the injuries I got in the military (beside harder pain killers) it helps me sleep with some nasty muscular skeletal injuries I got during my time in the service so if I end up like this I am screwed. I don't want to go back to using opioids if I end up with this condition 😑
What a lot of people don't realize is that unlegalized drugs can be MORE dangerous because illegally buying drugs is more dangerous and having drugs be illegal can lead to people buying drugs illegally and winding up with other, more dangerous drugs in the mix
The data doesn't back up your claims. This very video is evidence of that.
That’s stupid
legalising drugs puts an idea of them being safe into general populus´ minds
exactly. when illegal drugs are illegally purchased from illegal sources, the illegal drug user tends to illegally wind up with illegal drugs containing illegal substances other than the illegal substance that the illegal drug user meant to illegally buy from their illegal dealer of illegal drugs. did i mention that all of this is totally illegal?
Yeah, the best path to go forward is legalization and **control**! There are norms on how much alcohol you can consume. There are classification norms. (Like, there can't be 70% alcohol beer). There's testing and certification, so that methanol doesn't appear in drinks. If the same is done with cannabis - we can reduce the risk and crack down on illegal cannabis
Yep. I’ve seen it several times in our ER.
There also needs to be added is that the strength of cannabis products has significantly increased over the past several years
yall are still slaying the science video scene after all these years. keep it up!
This happened to me when I was in HS, I used to smoke every single day back then until the vomiting started. Luckily I would only throw up once or twice each time it happened, but I quit cold turkey since it just wasn't worth it after a while. Back then I thought it was caused by panic attacks from the THC exacerbating my anxiety, but this explains so much, thank you!
Weed has been legal here in Washington for 12 years, but I was a prolific daily smoker long before legalization. I have developed a lot of these symptoms and never even knew it was a thing. I wish I could do things in moderation, but I lack that kind of discipline. This is why I can't have nice things.
I can’t count how many times on my finger I went through this talking about stomach aches , body aches , uncontrollably vomitting and sweating the weed today is definitely not the same and will stress your body and stomach I’m happy I’m done with weed and relived that I found a recent video taking about the issue
I have Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome and CHS is making my life more difficult. They won’t treat my CVS properly until they give me a drug test that is clean. Which takes time and it makes me suffer longer before they help me. It’s really obnoxious. :(
I'm sorry that it's making your life harder :( 💙 I hope you find relief 💙
I really appreciate this kind of approach to science, though you are favor of smoking personally, you pursue objectivity and inform us to be critical and aware, you are awesome ❤
I got misdiagnosed with thise
twice because I'm a hispanic male. I was struggling with constant nausea from panic attacks in my early 20's and my doctor's didn't want to help me much unless I stopped smoking, which was the only thing that was helping me at that moment. I had to switch doctors offices to be treated. Years later, I got on a high dose of Zoloft that my body reacted poorly to. I was vomiting almost daily and had to go to the ER due to dehydration... they told me to stop smoking marijuana. Turns out I have OCD and ADHD witch tics. I feel very mistreated every time they bring it up, like my struggles could only be cause by drugs because I'm a young hispanic man :(
I have Chron's Disease and I've experienced what can only be described as "greening out" a few times over my life.
weed anxiety, shakes, feeling really nervous or uncomfortable.
Ironically wether its from Dabs, Edibles, or Bong rips I've never felt even the slightest bit of nausea, it's the opposite and always has been! Lucky!
You know, I acknowledge that this is an actual problem that people have, but it still makes me angry that doctors tried to blame weed for my nausea multiple times. When I'm pregnant I get hyperemesis gravidarum, which is nonstop puking. I got so weak I couldn't get in and out of the shower on my own and barely could get out of bed, I couldn't eat or drink anything. Now, the doctors gave me medications that were supposed to help reduce my nausea but it was like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound. Doctors tried to give me stomach acid reducers after I started repeatedly tearing my esophagus and started vomiting blood.... Now I had smoked in the past before getting pregnant, but I stopped any and all smoking once I got that positive pregnancy test. What makes me angry is I'd go to the ER vomiting blood and they'd tell me because I smoked weed that that was why I was vomiting. I got angry with one of the doctors and was like "do you really think I couldn't and wouldn't stop smoking for my child?" And he kinda rolled his eyes at me, I told him none of the medications were working and he asked me "well I don't know what you want me to do for you" I just wanted to be able to drink water! I started smoking after that visit and I was finally able to eat, I was able to sleep, and my body stopped being so incredibly weak and shaky because I could finally eat and drink without consequence. As a result of me smoking I had to deal with doctors being judgemental and I had to deal with CPS saying I "neglected" my child, I was doing what was best for us both. Not only me, but my whole family and my husband were afraid I was going to die before I started smoking weed... So how is it wrong, how did I neglect my child? I was just doing the best thing for us both. Now I have a perfectly healthy and happy baby who is growing really well and is off the charts smart. So again, I acknowledge this is an issue with certain people, but for me marijuana was my saving grace and it quite literally saved me and my child.
Doctors did the same to my wife, she’s gotten ill when she got pregnant with our daughter. The sickness was supposedly caused by toxoplasmosis, and she is also a type 2 diabetic, this has been going on for 6 years and she has had multiple surgeries. Magnesium seemed to help for the most part but marijuana has always been a part of mine and her lives. Never had a problem with it until she went through child birth, but that doesn’t stop the doctors from filling up her file with “marijuana overdose” claims.
@Rustyshackleford752 why do people keep saying weed makes you vomit when it does the opposite that makes no sense to me
Wellp at this point I just straight up hate doctors so, all I really have to say to that is. Yep. I believe every world you wrote and honestly I imagine your experience is worse than you fully remember or even know.
I work at a dispensary. We're forced to give out pamphlets that tell of the "dangers" of smoking weed while pregnant. I mostly laugh at them. Obviously, burning weed, or literally anything, introduces carcinogens, something we don't want babies to be in contact with. That being said, if you eat meat, you've been ingesting just about as much. Smoking weed isn't especially dangerous to a fetus, and I regularly sell weed to pregnant women, and I always do my best to make sure they don't feel judged for it. You do whatever you feel you need to for that child and yourself. Have a great day, and congratulations on the kid!
You are feeling like that BECAUSE you arent smoking weed anymore. You think marijuana is the solution to your problems but in reality its only the “solution” to problems that it itself created
So I actually came down with this when I moved to Long Beach.
I was smoking one joint a day. Just one.
The doctors claimed they didn't know what caused it. But they were basically saying that my Vegus nerve shut down. I started having uncontrollable panic attacks and couldn't keep food or water down so I had to move back to the east coast due to not being able to work. 😢
cannabis hyperemesis syndrome needs to be more commonly known!! im a pothead myself and i think any potential user should be aware of health risks like this
I relate actually, for a long while I was smoking more than I needed to, I was throwing up until is was only stomach acid coming up, horrible appetite, and I continued to smoke to try and get my appetite back which made it worse, I went to a doctor and they thought it was a stomach bug or bacteria in my gut. During this I moved and didn’t have access to weed for a few months and I was completely normal again. I really didn’t think much of it until it happened to my friend. This video really helped have things make more sense, since no one talks about the bad side effects of weed. Throwing up nothing up stomach acid all day every day, cant drink water or eat food was torture. Moderation is key. I smoke still but in moderation
I had the same issue but I'm still going thru recovery. How long do u go cold turkey for and since u slowed , have you had any chs attacks
@@moistbreadd4051I’ve had this for years . I only get sick like 2 times a year . I feel like it’s when I start smoking more and more. I’m a daily smoker about 3-4 times a day I smoke 1-2 bowls each session .
I’ve noticed when I slow down i don’t get sick but when I’m smoking and eating a lot it triggers the vomiting. Kind of weird .
I’m looking to quit weed .😢
thank you for this video it’s so important I live in a mega stoner town and have explained this condition to substance use counsellour s who had never heard of it so clearly it needs to be talked about more!! also I didn’t know the decrease in appetite from chronically smoking can turn into this and now i’m quite afraid 😅 just another good reason to try to cut down on
So because a few people cannot demonstrate self-control, everyone else that is completely unaffected by this problem has to suffer?
reading these comments really shows that people dont know what a tolerance break or self control is, like yeah if you smoke too much with 0 tolerance yeah that anti vomiting chemical aint saving you and if your absorbing more weed than food you should expect to be dry heaving. an 8th a day is not keeping doc away
People wouldn't be having this issue if they didn't do far too much concentrates.
A little can go a long way with cannabis and this is especially so for concentrates
I used to smoke roughly the amount of like 2 joints a day. I also vaporized it as well so I'm not sure if vaporizing has over inhaling heavy amounts of smoke. Personally, I don't know why people get THAT high. You're just hurting yourself after that amount as it increases anxiety and paranoia. Man, this is almost like certain people are ruining it for others. That being said I don't smoke nearly as much anymore. I've only had two bouts of extreme disconnect from my body and that's when I got too high, too quickly. I learned my lesson and smoke within reason.