Everything Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor Got Wrong
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- No one goes to watch a Michael Bay movie expecting historical accuracy. But the chasm between Pearl Harbor the movie and real Pearl Harbor facts, as shown in photos from December 7, 1941, is clear. The film contains an armada-sized number of errors about the military, including the wrong planes, nuclear-powered subs before the advent of nuclear power, and magical 21st-century radio technology.
....And then there are all the plot holes...
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If you want a great Pearl Harbor film, watch TORA TORA TORA
Move sucks
I watched it just 2 months ago after finding it on dvd at a flea market.
@@Dave-bj3pqwhy exactly does it suck, is it too boring?
I have seen Tora Tora Tora I actually heard it was a joint American & Japanese produced film...
TORA TORA TORA is the good Pearl Harbor movie. (Just ask the History Buff)
Sadly Americans HATE that version because it was made by American AND Japanese directors.
Also in TTT, the Americans are made a fool of because of all the stupid mistakes they made on the morning of the attack.
TTT is pretty accurate and the mistakes are far and between.
The movie "Midway" portrayed Pearl Harbor better than the movie "Pearl Harbor".
You got that right and also can really tell other parts in the Song about this in Team America as accurate as well.
referring to the 1976 version or the 2019?
Apparently you've never met a real American sailor. All you armchair movie critics sit and declare a film is full of moronic tropes while real sailors actually love Pearl Harbor for the 40 minutes of awesomeness it does have. We revel in American patriotism and that's why we work this job.
Michael Bay isn’t going to see this and give you a happy ending Swabby. I’m medically retired from the Army after getting blown up in Afghanistan, but if someone makes a movie about the war and gets all sorts of details wrong I don’t expect others not to be irritated or make fun of it. Heck, see how Iraq vets, especially EOD, talk crap about Hurt Locker for the mass amount of things it got wrong.
@@Floydric i read somewhere that midway 2019 was very accurate and midway 76 was not so much
Accuracy is not something that Michael Bay is interested in as he loves those "BIG MASSIVE EXPLOSIONS!!!"
All I hear is the epic rap battles of history version screaming “I take my checks to the bank and I sign em with my nutz!” 😂
And let’s not forget the big boobs.
It's to compensate for his tiny little manhood.
Booms and boobs = Bay films.
@@Salvador-wz7rwor South Park when the military is interviewing directors to find out how to defend against terrorists attacking our imaginations 😂
2:33 That is not Emperor Hirohito, that is prime minister Hideki Tojo.
I have read japans military favoring nationalistic government at the time had certain angles for warfare with other countries..ironically there WAS opponents towards war against west(its a little less known to some but historically accurate)
Yep. I caught that too😊
To he left we see his homie, Li'l Dojo.
On top of it, the whole "FDR contracted polio as a kid" spiel. Total bullshit. FDR got polio when he was thirty-fucking-nine. Hardly a child.
Franklin D. Roosevelt contracted polio in 1921 at the age of 39
THANK YOU.
"Childhood polio"....lolol
Now that is really something and highly doubt he's really standing out either considering that would be also news at the time aside from the war crime indications of bombing a hospital would go against the rules of war like other channels can indicate.
Also there's debate on whether it was polio FDR contracted too.
@@barrymaaslow3480 Yeah we can only question about that.
On April 1st, which is my birthday, the last survivor of the USS Arizona named Lou Conter died at 102.
Happy Birthday.
When it comes to Ben Afflek's character getting shot down before America was in the war, that's not an inaccuracy. Several American pilots took part in the Battle of Brittan. Some lost their lives. We may not have had declared war at that point, but we were definitely supplying allies, and some were "unofficially" fighting.
"By July 1940 France had fallen. England was under aerial attack. The RAF decided to group acceptable American pilots into one unit, 71 Squadron, known as “The Eagle Squadron,” which became operational in February 1941. Sweeny had designed a unit shoulder patch bearing an American Eagle, the source of the unit’s name. Enough American volunteers followed to form 121 and 133 Eagle Squadrons, operational by fall 1941. By the beginning of 1942 all three American-piloted Eagle Squadrons were flying sweeps over France, escorting bombers or performing strikes.
Among the first and the most experienced pilots in these squadrons were Vernon “Shorty” Keogh, Andrew Mamedoff, and Eugene “Red” Tobin. Each of them went to Europe in 1940 to fly with eight other Americans in British squadrons throughout the Battle of Britain that same year. All three Americans died before the United States officially entered World War II. Mamedoff was forced down in bad weather. Keogh died defending a coastal convoy. And Tobin lost his life in a dogfight between 71 Squadron and German fighters near Boulogne, France."
The Eagle Squadron became the 4th Fighter Group after the US entered the war. The 4th Fighter Wing still exists today. It is based at Seymour Johnson AFB in Goldsboro North Carolina. They currently fly the F15E Strike Eagles. They are still known as the Eagle Squadrons. They still have the same squadrons. The 33th Eagles, 335th Chiefs, and 336th Rocketeers.
What is an inaccuracy though is how it is portrayed. In the context of the film, Ben Afflek is a serving member of the USAAC who is accepted into the Eagle Squadron. However, active duty U.S pilots would not be allowed to serve in the RAF because doing so would be a violation of the neutrality act. For it to be realistic and accurate, he would have to resign from the Army Air Corp and travel to Britain as a civilian and volunteer for the RAF, which is how some American pilots did fight in reality. Others were already in England or in the RAF when the war started.
Yeah, Affleck's character gets "transferred" to the RAF for the Battle of Britain. That sort of thing never happened. We did have the Eagle Squadron over there (and the "Flying Tigers" in China) but in both cases the pilots were technically mercenaries, having either never served in the U.S. Armed Forces, or resigned their commissions.
In any case, it was exceedingly rare for a fighter pilot to switch over to flying bombers anyway. Multiple engine aircraft are from what I understand difficult to learn to fly, and it's supposedly something of a distinct art. They certainly wouldn't have (and didn't) recruit pilots for the Doolittle Raid from the ranks of a fighter squadron.
@@davidnicholas7516 oh, believe me, I get it. I'm just saying American pilots did indeed fight before America entered the war. It definitely wasn't by order of the military or the US Government, but they did indeed fight, so the scene isn't fiction, or "couldn't happen" because it did.
I know that the movie plays fast and loose with a lot of the facts (like flying bombers over fighters) and whatnot, but I was just pointing out that Americans did fight pre-American involvement. It just wasn't sanctioned by the US Government making them, essentially, mercenaries, as you stated.
The timing seems off by a year though. He's clearly fighting in the Battle of Britain in 1940, then given the events with the other cast it seems like only a few months have passed before he returns.
How many explosions do you want?
Michael Bay: Yes!
he did the math... he took the year it happened, added the numbers together, multiplied it by the number of letters in Pearl Harbor then subtracted 1 so as not too be too over the top
Glenn Miller played the trombone, not the trumpet...
But of course, that's one small error in an episode of a CZcams channel, NOT a huge Hollywood production with a nine-figure dollar budget.
While I enjoyed the 3 hour film, I wondered early on how many kids were playing baseball at 0800 on a Sunday…..
That one has bothered me.
I haven't seen the movie, but were the kids in Hawaii or the mainland. If Hawaii, then I doubt very few were playing baseball at 7:00 a.m. on a Sunday. If on the mainland, it would have been afternoon and many may have been. I'm 82, and think it would be difficult to better the movie ToraTora Tora. The theater were I live mounted very large speakers in the center seats and when the Japanese planes were taking off from the carriers, the seats actually vibrated. This was a time when the theaters were large, with balconies and the movies were being shot in Cinema-scope(sp). Movies such as Tora Tora Tora, The Ongest Day, Patton and Star Wars were very impressive. I have been to only one movie since they tore down that theater and replaced it with a duplex(about 40 years ago).
@@williamromine5715 the scene showed the boys looking up at the Japanese fighters. Like you, I think Tora Tora was excellent.
@@blakewilliams3702 In that case, either the Japanese pilots were very off course, or the director forgot about the time of day in Hawaii( most likely the latter). Thanks for the info.
@@williamromine5715 so, many American kids would be playing baseball at 7AM on a SUNDAY....in the middle of WINTER?
There were, in actuality 9 battleships at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941. One was technically a retired Battleship.
Three Battleships never returned to active duty after the attack at Pearl Harbor, The USS ARIZONA, the USS OKLAHOMA, and the previously mentioned retired battleship, USS UTAH.
The UTAH and the ARIZONA, are still there in Pearl Harbor.
The USS OKLAHOMA , was raised from the bottom of Pearl Harbor, but was deemed obsolete to be returned to active service.
After WWII ended, the OKLAHOMA was taken under tow, to be scrapped. While in transit to the west coast, the OKLAHOMA, decided that she would rather be a reef than razor blades, and proceeded to sink.
Came here to say the same.
10:30 "Why the studio couldn't afford to hire a consultant?"
When I was in the military, I served under this one major. Outstanding officer, a real stand up guy. I was proud to serve under him. Seven years after I left the military, I made his acquaintance again, and by this time, he was a movie consultant. He had turned into a smug, insincere, name dropping, real loser of a human being. Two of the movies (I won't name here) that he consulted on made major mistakes and he probably didn't care because he was schmoozing with the movie director and lead actor.
Know a story of a movie historical advisor. He spend three weeks eating Mars Bars and drinking Coke. One day they asked if the infantry would be carrying a flag. He said no. It was a cavalry pendant. They gave it to the infantry in the movie anyway, but they could say they had a historical advisor.
Glenn Miller went to Colorado University at Boulder where there is the fabulous Glenn Miller Ballroom in his honor. Glenn disappeared over the English Channel during a mission.
My dad, rest his soul, HATED this movie. This was a man that watched WW2 shows ALL THE TIME, AND was in 3 branches of the military, and worked for NASA. My grandfather, again, rest his soul, I still have a picture of him storming Normandy. While an entertaining Hollywood flick, it's so wrong, it's crazy. Take it for what it is.
Your dad was obviously a man of impeccable taste when it comes to all things military
I read a review of this movie when it was first released. One sentence always sticks in my mind...
"It was a relief when the Japanese showed up" 😂
"Blood Chits" were not always sewn on the outside of pilots' jackets. It was not unusual for them to be on the lining.
Glenn Miller played the trombone, not the trumpet.
This movie should be titled "From Battle of Britain to Doolittle Raids: The Love triangle of two airman and one lady and their wacky misadventures"
Well I didn't know that an operation that happened 6 months after the Pearl harbor attack was part of the Pearl harbor attack.
Really got some good casting with Baldwin as Doolittle. I thought they were twins it was that good!
Something to mention is that Danny and Rafe steal the heroic actions from Kenneth Taylor and George Welch who got in their P-40Bs (P-40Es were used in the movie despite obvious differences from the P-40B) and took down several Japanese dive-bombers, not fighters and were honored for their actions. Kenneth Taylor who was still alive when the movie came out heavily criticized his and Welch's omission from the movie; he called the movie "a piece of trash... over sensationalized and distorted".
2:34 thats tojo not the emperor
They all look alike
Also the emperor is not always seen traditionally in public all the time culturally and is treated differently(they say he’s Amaterasu’s descendant) the culture is different on some points😮
“An Intro to Japanese Culture” by Daniel Sosnosky is a good read on society
Fun Fact: Today April 7th is the anniversary of the sinking of the largest Battleship to ever be put to sea, the Japanese Battleship Yamato. It became sort of influential in anime and manga as a sort of basis for the idea of a space ship with a bunch of naval-ship esque canons but with lasers.
Even though part of its inspiration came from Star Wars but then again that's a given
@@BeyondDaXspace battleship predated star wars by 4 years.
Nobody cares about your cartoons
@@lifevest1what about StarBlazers?
@@danam0228 starblazers = americanized space battleship. I dont have the exact years but I know SBY originally came out in Japan in ‘74 and starblazers was late 70s/early 80s, I think?
Hollywood never lets the truth get in the way of a good story...
"Good story"? Don't you mean a good explosion? We are talking about Michael Bay here...
No, because in truth there were lots of massive explosions that actually happened at Pearl Harbor, so the explosions here are mostly true...
The channel History Buffs analyzes historical movies for accuracy. You might be surprised at finding that some Hollywood movies actually show a few accurate historical facts.
Or even a bad one
I'm currently active duty Navy and I get my medical care at an Air Force medical clinic. It happens.
have you never heard of Eagle Squadron? They were American pilots who volunteered to fly fighters for the RAF before the United States entered World War II.
I was in hawaii when this was filmed. You could see the set from my house where they filmed the bombing. Also. My dads friend is in the scene when cuba gooding jr is firing the machine gun. Hes one of the dead guys. 😅
I was in Hawaii when they filmed Tora, Tora,Tora
Not a hard to play role. Did he forgot his text?
@@drhkleinert8241 Tell you what, playing dead people in a film etc is not a bad gig $$$
The Doolittle bombers DIT NOT FLY TOGETHER! Eery damn movie depicts this wrong
Exactly. If I’m not mistaken, each plane had a target they were supposed to hit and the targets weren’t that close together
The story of Afleck's character is possible. US and Canadian volunteers flew in RAF "Eagle" squadrons, assisting the Brits in their defense of the U.K., much like American volunteers flew in the Fighting Tigers helping the Chinese fight the Japanese presence in coastal China. Eagle Squadron and Flying Tiger pilots were all accepted back in the US Armed Forces. BUT, I don't think any of Doolittle's Raiders were Eagle squadron pilots.
THE BEST THING from Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is the sound track. Its so good.
I’m always on the lookout for historical inaccuracies in history movies like this one! I want to thank you for making this video!
2:33 That’s not Hirohito, that’s Prime Minister Hideki Tojo.
That’s not Hideko Tojo, that’s Hideki Tojo
@@j.a.weishaupt1748 thanks for letting me know about the mistyping. It’s hard typing on an IPhone.
My Dad came home from England after the War on HMS Queen Mary. She was still the 'Grey Ghost'' at that point. Oh, & BTW, FDR's paralysis was hardly the result of a 'childhood bout of polio'. He was 39 years old when he had the disease that paralysed him.
2:34 that's Hidecki Tojo, if I'm not mistaken.
They should have gotten James Cameron to direct. He is always obsessed with getting everything accurate.
he created two fictional people for titanic and made the story revolve around them.
You missed the Spruance class Destroyers used as targets in the movie which didn't serve till 1975
You also missed all the modern warships used to be their WWII counterparts in the Pearl Harbour with no attempts to make them fit in that time period.
The Doolittle Raiders didn't have the fuel, nor was it planned for them to fly in formation. Each of the 16 planes were assigned individual targets.
I mean, Bay got the date right, so that's something.
And there is a military base in Pearl Harbor.
and there were definitely people involved.... so for a Bay film he is doing pretty good
A minor point wrong in both Pearl Harbor and Tora, Tora, Tora is that Haleiwa Field, the remote airstrip, was almost on the beach, not inland. Would have been cool to see the beach in the background, even if it was CGI.
The 2001 contemporary reaction to this was interesting.
Movie Critics: they got the emotion and and drama completely wrong! (film's drama is bad soap opera level, low 20% on RT)
Military Critics: they got everything with military wrong! (see above video)
Theater Owners: they got the marketing right! (one of the biggest opening weekends in history, totaled near half a billion gross in 2001 dollars)
Teen Girls: they got Josh Hartnett's face right! (became overnight superstar)
Where to begin? Military nurses to this day do not wear their hair down while in uniform, and they don’t wear makeup especially surgical nurses. The scene where Danny takes Evelyn for a ride in the P-40. That would be practically impossible since she would have had to sit on his lap. Not only would his foreword vision been blocked, but her legs would have made controlling the rudder pedals been dangerously difficult. Plus his ass would been busted big time.
The film shows Admiral Kimmell on the golf course. He was still at home when the attack began. Kids playing baseball as the attack began. At 7am on a Sunday morning?
And how did Rafe get sent all the way back to Hawaii after the RAF? (Which would never happen) There were plenty of commands he could have been assigned to.
And the seems aboard the USS Hornet: when the Japanese picket boat detects the American fleet, the admiral asks Doolittle what he wanted to do? It was the other way around. Doolittle was ordered to launch. And the B-25’s did not fly in formation to their targets. To do so would have required them to orbit over the carrier while forming up and they did not have the fuel to do that l. Once a bomber was launched they proceeded alone to their targets. And the scene where Rafe and the others returned home from the raid, and they had Danny’s body in a casket l? How did they do that? It took weeks for some of the Doolittle Raid survivors to get home as they were smuggled out of enemy territory. And Rafe and the others dragged Danny’s corpse with them ? I think he would have smelled pretty bad by that time 😂.
And then at the end when Evilyn said that after the Doolittle Raid that the Japanese never advance but only go backward?
The war had just started? There was 3 years of savage fighting ahead of them!
PH looks great but historically it is a debacle.
Glen Miller was a trombone player. Not a trumpet player. You should have considered consulting on that one. Seems Michael Bay isn’t the only one who didn’t do his research.
ha ha. I agree!!!!
Long Island does not have a Mountain as seen in the movie
This film got my grandad and the rest of the VFW chapter to walk out of the theater.
Nice!
Twice the film zooms in on Japanese bombs. One as it falls towards the Arizona; the other as it lands on Hickam Field.
The close up of the bomb fuze on the airfield shows the arming vane still spinning after the bomb comes to rest, and only exploding after it completely unwinds. That’s not how arming vanes work.
It’s a tiny tiny detail I know, but why go to all the effort to show one, just to get it wrong…
Looks cool, perhaps?
You ommited that the movie got an Oscar! For best sound editing :)
The song "Pearl Harbor Sucks" from "Team America: World Police" is poetic.
Yes it sure is.
Do Schindlers list next :)
The film "Pearl Harbor" made my dad angry, and he was there. Michael Bay did well with "The Rock", that was a good movie. Even Armageddon was fun (which was all it set out to be), but frankly, "Pearl Harbor" was a clusterf***k. Tora Tora Tora is still the best Pearl Harbor film, although the Japanese produced a couple that were rather well made.
Armageddon offends scientists the same way this film offends war veterans.
@@stuartforbes6954 I know a scientist who found Armageddon hugely entertaining. :) The distinction I would draw is that Armageddon is a B-movie on a blockbuster budget and manages to be fun to watch as a silly popcorn movie, while Pearl Harbor merely manages to waste a decent cast on something big, noisy and dumb that isn't even fun.
A+ video!
Fascinating topic and video, very thought-provoking!
I could go on for hours on what was wrong with Pearl Harbor. Some things are difficult to change since a lot of what was around during that time either is gone or has changed significantly but some things were just flat out ludicrous. I'll expand on a couple things you noted, or didn't note.
1. Rafe McCauley could never have flown with the RAF in the Battle of Britain. To do so was a violation of the Neutrality Act and McCauley would have had to resign from the USAAC and give up his citizenship to actually do this. Pilots that flew for the British before the US entry as well as for China (think Flying Tigers) were not authorized by the US Government to go there. To have a US Pilot, in Uniform fly for the Brits against the Germans would have been a major political error.
2. You mentioned that McCauley and Walker flew on the Doolittle mission. Yep, that was stupid. Not only was the Doolittle mission flown by dedicated B-25 pilots but it was a specific bomb group (17th BG) was selected and volunteers from that group were chosen to fly. The only pilot that wasn't a member was Doolittle himself but he was widely considered the best pilot in the US at the time and had air time in the B-25.
3. Most of the aircraft on the Japanese side were mismarked. The A6M Reisen (or Zero) was not green in 1941. This was a coloring used later on for A6M5 versions which were introduced in 1943. The color scheme of the aircraft was more of a tan color and if you want accuracy look at Tora Tora Tora for a proper representation of the A6M2 models that would have been used in the attack. Some things, like the tower at Pearl Harbor (which was really there) is painted in modern colors and not in the color scheme used in the film and the fact that most of the aircraft were either P36s, P-26s or early P40b/c models and only a very few P40E models were present. Again, understandable since only one or two original P40b/c models still exist and no P-36s or P-26s remain in airworthy condition.
I was saddened by this film. If you really want a true representation of what happened leading up and during the attack the film Tora Tora Tora is about as accurate as you can get, even with some errors.
Having watched this film, my first thought when I saw your video show up in my recommended list is disbelief that you could cover all the things it got wrong in just over 11 minutes. I would have guessed half an hour minimum.
They didn't point out that among the historical inaccuracies in this movie is the presence of Knox class frigates at PH, and they weren't commissioned until the late 60s. Missed by two wars.
While I do hate this movie, there is one thing I would like to point out. Army personal going to a naval hospital is not necessarily incorrect. Military personal often go to hospitals that belong to another branch, especially if they are stationed on another base. For example, Marines training at Ft. Lee often went to the U.S. Army hospital when I was in AIT. Also, when I was enlisting in the National Guard in Spokane, WA, I had tricare (reserve select) and had to go to a military hospital to be seen. This involved going to an Air Force Clinic since it was the closest DOD medical installation.
The studio and people that made this movie wanted to make money NOT honor history. There’s a big difference
The Doolittle Raiders were an already established Bomber Squadron that was stationed in Idaho when the war started. They were not fighter pilots who happened to volunteer to transition into bomber pilots for one special mission.
Thanks for the great video! Love the content and narration.. Side note, Glenn Miller was primarily a trombone player, not a trumpet player. Thanks for mentioning his music though, it’s one of my favorites!🎶🇺🇸
There were American pilots in the RAF during the Battle of Britain. They were in the Eagle Squadrons. However, none were serving military pilots at the time.
There were American volunteers in the RAF during the Battle of Britain, the problem is that Batfleck would never be allowed to join as an officer of the neutral Army Air Corps.
It’s also very unlikely that fighter pilots would have been allowed to transfer to bombers just for the Dolittle raid, in place of people who’d spent months training to fly it…
Even as a high schooler, I remember watching this movie and thinking, "this is all wrong." Not to mention that only about half of the movie actually took place in Pearl Harbor...
"A lot of directors don't want the pressure of a movie the size of Pearl Harbor. But I love it. I thrive on it." - Michael Bay
Pearl Harbor was a great movie for what it was - a Michael Bay & Jerry Bruckheimer film set in WW2. I don’t think they ever claimed it to be historically accurate and once you set that aside it’s a powerful and emotional movie with impressive scenes and a moving soundtrack.
It really doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets. As a WWII buff I enjoy it.
Several planes transforms into robots. Starscream, thundercracker, skywarp, ramjet, etc.
Historical inaccuracies aside, the effects held up pretty well at least.
9:50 Speaking of radio silence...at the beginning of the film No Hard Feelings (2023), Maddie (played by Jennifer Lawrence) was said to go radio silent by a former fling.
That is another way of saying "Ghosted."
I heard about Michael Bay yelling at a laughing extra during the scene where the wounded converged onto the hospital.
That should’ve given Bay a clue that he was making a bad movie.
Take a hint why at the Pearl Harbor gift shops they won’t sell this movie on the DVD stands.
I didn't know that. It does say something, doesn't it?
@@doolie1779sure does; GeorgeSickler who posted on IMDb said this:
“I was able to visit Pearl Harbor, including Ford Island, a few years back. My DVD of "Tora, Tora, Tora!!!" had finally worn out. ( I saw the movie when it came out back in the 1970s. ) The Visitor Center had sold out. But I did get a copy at the gift shop on Ford Island.
Neither one even had a slot on the rack among other relevant DVDs for this abomination”
@@doolie1779sure does.
@@doolie1779absolutely.
@@doolie1779absolutely they wanted no part of the distortion of facts.
6:18 Great to see all those stars as nurses!
Jaime King (from Omaha, Nebraska) was a nurse on the film too!
I want you to debunk Star Wars episodes 7-9... 😁
Why do you want to hurt him with that?
@@BeyondDaX Because he asked for suggestions, lol. Be careful what you ask for....
It starts even earlier in the movie with the inaccuracies, when they show a news clip of the german army overrunning europe, the "german" tank seen in the picture is Pershing....
There were still some scenes that are accurate. The scene where Cuba Gooding Jr fires an anti aircraft gun really did happen. Also, some nurses really did do triage by marking soldiers foreheads with lipstick.
It was actually explained in the movie how he fought for the Eagle Squadron. American pilots could volunteer, albeit they sometimes had to resign from their positions in the military and go as a civilian, not too different from the guys going over to Ukraine today. Also, after watching Masters of the Air and reading the book "The Mighty Eighth", it was possible to transition from a fighter pilot to a bomber pilot. Rosie Rosenthal actually trained as a fighter pilot before transferring duties to become a bomber pilot.
It’s crazy how little actual historical research went into the making of this movie!!
It is explained how Ben Affleck's character ended up flying for the RAF. He left the US Army to volunteer to fly for the RAF. Dozens of American pilots did this in real life. Also, Roosevelt was stricken with polio at the age of 39. This was a good video, but if you're going to do fact checking, you need to make sure that what you, yourself say is also accurate.
This was a really good video. It had a lot of information I didn't know. I didn't know that our relationship with Japan was that tenuous, although it does make sense. I just never heard it mention before. It makes you think.
I'm going to nitpick the nitpickers: FDR had polio as an adult, not a child.
The scene of the attack on Pearl Harbor was realistic enough for me. I had a relative die in the attack. My dad's oldest brother was s1c Broadus F. West & he was killed in the attack aboard the USS Arizona - 2 days before his 26th birthday. His remains were never recovered. My dad was a little boy at the time & worshipped his big brother. I grew up with stories about Broadus & details about the attack.
On another note, I also had the honor of meeting some of Doolittle's Raiders in Columbia, SC when they had their reunion to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the raid. They said Doolittle was actually a very devout Christian & didn't curse like he was portrayed in the movie.
0:46 I used to own the VHS of Halloween H20 (1998), Josh Hartnett's debut film.
Also used to own the VHS of his second film The Faculty (1998).
7:28 Southeast Community College (my community college) used to have the mascot of the Bombers.
This was such an aweful movie. If you want quality and Historically accurate movies:
Pearl Harbor - Tora, Tora, Tora
Dolittle Raid - Thirty Seconds over Tokyo
Bonus:
Dam Buster Raid - The Dam Busters
Bismark - Sink The Bismark
Personally, if a movie says "based on" it is not. If a director says "I had to take Artistic Liberties" it will be a crap movie because "Artistic Liberties" is code for "I don't know how to direct".
You forgot the original 'Catch 22' (1969)
-Oh, and for a really historically accurate movie of Pearl Harbor; 'From here to Eternity' (1953) Got the love triangle drama and stuff, the lot!
Even (not) trumpet playing
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un Catch 22 has that incredable scene where thery actually roll a B-25. And the opening scene is epic.
A bonus on the radios for the Doolittle Raid. The B-25s used in the raid were stripped of their radios to conserve fuel and extend their range for the attack.
FDR did not have Polio as a child, he came down with Polio in adulthood, at the age of 39. It was very rare for a healthy adult to come down with polio, a fact that made his illness doubly tragic but also allowed him to become the great president that he was.
I was seeing a particular woman at the time.PEARL HARBOR came out. I told her that I'd heard the reviews of PEARL HARBOR weren't that good but those for SHREK ( which came out about the same time) were a lot better. She said "I don't like cartoons". So we went to see PEARL HARBOR...and regretted it.
Everybody likes cartoons. Should have taken that as red flag bro.
Sure something similar happened to me. Mind you, I've been making bad choices all my life, so I cant really talk.
Yeah, give me Tora Tora Tora anytime. I saw that with my dad and mom when it came out in 1969-70? Along with the movie Patton, what a double feature. Pearl Harbor does have good music for the time period. Had to find something good.
After I watched the Honest Trailer's parody trailer for Pearl Harbor, I came up with the idea that the writers were trying to cram as many people who were at Pearl Harbor as they could into the movie by combining their stories into the main characters but failed. Look up the trailer and you might have an idea of what I'm talking about but it doesn't make the movie any better.
One thing I learned from this movie is that the Japanese high command held their strategy meetings outside in a public park.
I know. That scene was a big WTF moment for me.
My first thoughts reading the title of this video were "Where to begin?" and "how could he fit all the problems into an 11 minute video?".
Only here because of the narrator’s voice!
5:52 There is a picture of the Queen Mary on the tin Red finds at the end of the film The Shawshank Redemption.
It would be a good idea to not make egregious mistakes when attacking other’s mistakes. FDR was 39 when he contracted polio.
Making a Hollywood movie about the most historically documented war in history is dumb at this point unless you make it real
I used to get that Movie Magazine Movieline. They would do those Behind the Movie Set Stories. It was either Road To Perdition or Catch Me if You Can which both came out in 2002 a year after Pearl Harbor in 2001. Tom Hanks was in both films and we know his involvement in WW2 History Films. So on the set during a break Hanks asked who on the film crew worked on the Pearl Harbor Film. A smattering of hands went up and Hanks went on an epic anti-Pearl Harbor rant as told by the writer of the story. It was hilarious. Hanks likely figured with that budget what he and Spielberg could have done with a film about Pearl Harbor.
ATTENTION! Glenn Miller played a TROMBONE, not a trumpet. You even showed a clip of him playing one. Gees! Attention to detail, Ranker?
One inaccuracy is “I fear all we have done was awake a sleeping giant”. Contrary to the popular belief, there is no evidence Admiral Yamamoto made that statement. It is true that following the attack, he was not confident Japan could win a war against the US but the quote is just a movie line.
I’m so tired of people attacking this movie - NOBODY watching would know about these historical inaccuracies unless you are a history buff and ww2 person. I love a good historically accurate film but this movie was made for general audiences. Personally I think the actual attack sequence was interesting and did a good job of making you feel like Americans felt during the actual attack - wanting to get in the fight and beat the Japanese.
There are many, many head shaking moments. The 1940's aircraft carriers with angled flight decks and steam catapults, the aircraft flying like they were Tie fighters, the completely wrong generation destroyers at Pearl, etc. It was awful. Should have been called "From Here to maternity"
I saw the Spruance destroyers getting attacked. . . . .
The Queen Mary one is possibly correct. The ship arrived in NYC Sept 1st 1939 and didn't depart until March 1940. It sailed to Australia and converted there getting it's gray coat. So if that scene is within the dates than that's the correct paint.
Couple of things
There is also a Oliver Hazard Perry clas guided-missile frigate (FFG) seen in the movie
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I took a dump on Admiral Yamamotos plane that he crashed in….
Roosevelt had polio as an adult, not in his childhood.
It’s not a documentary it’s more a love story with some battles thrown in. My wife and I enjoyed it. 🤠
This is hilarious. Do more!