How Fast Do Pros Cycle Uphill? | Beginner VS Amateur VS Pro: Hill Climb Edition

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  • @gcn
    @gcn  Pƙed 3 lety +272

    How do you think you'd fare against each of these riders? Let us know in the comments 👇

    • @lechprotean
      @lechprotean Pƙed 3 lety +37

      I am Freddie just a lot older.

    • @GregorPQ
      @GregorPQ Pƙed 3 lety +11

      What did Freddy say when he arrived?
      21 minutes.

    • @Kimberly_Sparkles
      @Kimberly_Sparkles Pƙed 3 lety +49

      I could ride with Freddie and still get dropped.

    • @BehindtheKOM
      @BehindtheKOM Pƙed 3 lety +6

      #EDMODE

    • @doc63
      @doc63 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Yeh, I’m and older and better looking (😉) version of Freddie

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Pƙed 3 lety +1593

    "Don't go out too hard"
    Freddie: I am speed

    • @r3dwf472
      @r3dwf472 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      😂😂

    • @WegrennerX
      @WegrennerX Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @Nooneinparticular987 then you slowly start to feel how thing really are... disappointed in not being a super human...

    • @JR-wj9bh
      @JR-wj9bh Pƙed 2 lety +2

      He didn't start too hard, it's just that the road is steep af. What he lacked was fitness and technique

    • @MicroageHD
      @MicroageHD Pƙed 2 lety

      Freddies pacing skill = -9000 xD

    • @HG-bs3en
      @HG-bs3en Pƙed 2 lety

      @@JR-wj9bh well he lacked the capacity to keep his blood oxygenated comfortably

  • @jeffvasquez1691
    @jeffvasquez1691 Pƙed 3 lety +1347

    Ollie: you got any tips for Freddie
    Andrew: don't start too hard.
    Freddy: *STARTS GUNS BLAZING*

  • @randysisto
    @randysisto Pƙed 3 lety +765

    I feel Freddie's pain. I was once passed on a climb by a mountain biker that was wearing flip flops and drinking a latte in the Smokey Mountains during the Tour De Tuck. He must of have been a local mountain goat.

    • @SaraP1111
      @SaraP1111 Pƙed 2 lety +184

      It could be worse. When I was 14 I bought new mountain bike (I like cycling and at that time I was the best among the friends) and went cycling. In the middle of the hill I felt the wind and 70yo granny with the old no-gear bike (all her life she has no car and went with that same old bike everywhere shee needs) went from the store to home. She smiled at me and said she must hurry because she was late for cooking the lunch. She was like *woooosh* and all I can did is watched her in the back. My confidence felt bellow absolute zero after that.

    • @polanski2399
      @polanski2399 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@SaraP1111 lmfaooo

    • @andromeda121
      @andromeda121 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@SaraP1111 haha..a granny!

    • @douglasburnside
      @douglasburnside Pƙed 2 lety +51

      I was flying up Chena Ridge Hill on my very nice road bike, feeling great... until Rocky passed me on his mountain bike. Towing his kiddie trailer. With *two* kids in it. I think that marked the beginning of the end of my Tour de France dreams. 😠

    • @CaryCotterman
      @CaryCotterman Pƙed 2 lety +34

      One afternoon in the '70s I was riding my very nice Raleigh Professional, all kitted out and serious, with the straps on my toe clips cinched down, time-trialing along and feeling good about myself. Suddenly a scruffy shirtless guy in blue jeans and cowboy boots, with a cigarette in his mouth, sped past me on a department store balloon-tire bomber with a squeaky chain. Ruined my day.

  • @towhee7472
    @towhee7472 Pƙed 3 lety +191

    Freddy is not the guy you want to have in your team climbing hills in a bike race, but he sure as hell is the guy you want in your team when it comes to a pub fight!

  • @paulsymons562
    @paulsymons562 Pƙed 3 lety +3582

    I'd like to see a lot more content featuring 'Freddies' doing things normal cyclists do, and advice on how to approach them and improve. I suspect that 'freddies' form a good chuck of your audience and would be interested to hear how to tackle, say, their first 50 mile sportive or similar.

    • @Kimberly_Sparkles
      @Kimberly_Sparkles Pƙed 3 lety +54

      I like this.

    • @jammasterflash9448
      @jammasterflash9448 Pƙed 3 lety +27

      Came here to say this!

    • @arielwinchester8493
      @arielwinchester8493 Pƙed 3 lety +66

      I agree! @GCN I hope you are listening - I'd love targeted beginner guide videos - e.g. an absolute beginner female on a hybrid working up to a 50km

    • @timw8926
      @timw8926 Pƙed 3 lety +55

      Totally here for this - I mean, I love the content blasted out by Si, Hank, Ollie with amazing climbs and rides as an "One day..." inspiration BUT an additional "lets be honest here" view on people who just started off would be at least as motivating for me.

    • @dn6008
      @dn6008 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Well said. GCN come on make it happen, ball on your court.

  • @whitebeardcycles
    @whitebeardcycles Pƙed 3 lety +1928

    I like the advice 'Don't go too hard at the beginning'. Freddie bolts out the blocks like a dog chasing a cat! #teamfreddie the everyman.

    • @KOMHuntTV
      @KOMHuntTV Pƙed 3 lety +22

      we can all get behind him!

    • @ns671fr
      @ns671fr Pƙed 3 lety +11

      Sometimes you need that extra momentum at the beginning

    • @jkmaseruman
      @jkmaseruman Pƙed 3 lety +46

      Yes 'Don't go to hard at the beginning' cue Freddie looking like Sam Bennett in full flight on the Champs Elysees! Top bloke. Ave it!

    • @shinobi111782
      @shinobi111782 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      more freddie!!!

    • @colinmcdonald2499
      @colinmcdonald2499 Pƙed 3 lety +56

      He absolutely destroyed the first 100 meters!

  • @asafvirin2181
    @asafvirin2181 Pƙed 3 lety +359

    What a BEAST, slogging 96kg up that hill. I'm amazed that he even made it to the top, mad respect👊

    • @standardnnn6064
      @standardnnn6064 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      If i weight over 90kg, i would not reach 1/3 of that hill

    • @ateucrismado
      @ateucrismado Pƙed 2 lety +21

      I've got 110kg... and climbing is a nightmare. All respect to the guy

    • @genericpseudoname160
      @genericpseudoname160 Pƙed 2 lety +22

      I'd say he's more muscle than straight up fat, but his build is completely opposite to that of a pro cyclist. Still, it was quite good on his part, hope he keeps going at it.

    • @lidge1994
      @lidge1994 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      @@ateucrismado 123kg here, it's awful, takes me a couple minutes to go up a ~3% incline 400m road. But I do start full speed, maybe that's where I've been going wrong all these years? Maybe I need to just put my bike in a good gear and go up normally instead of pushing after the momentum? (small downhill, then the uphill I mentioned, that's why I go into the hill pretty fast.

    • @daydodog
      @daydodog Pƙed 2 lety

      reminds me of me

  • @davegrenier1160
    @davegrenier1160 Pƙed 3 lety +533

    Next week: Freddie takes Ollie and Andrew to the gym to see how well they handle 135kg bench presses and 180kg squats. Freddy will spot them and medics will be standing by.

    • @BrateTebra123
      @BrateTebra123 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Haha this !!

    • @Ardass486
      @Ardass486 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Brilliant

    • @BrateTebra123
      @BrateTebra123 Pƙed 3 lety

      @ed miller No

    • @arthurgore1
      @arthurgore1 Pƙed 3 lety

      @ed miller well, you don’t have enough intelligence to understand the joke

    • @orbytl2799
      @orbytl2799 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      what would the point in that be? its a bicycle racing channel

  • @rodneyeason4682
    @rodneyeason4682 Pƙed 3 lety +3405

    Carry this competition on into the pub. My money is on Freddie.

    • @bilginaydin9756
      @bilginaydin9756 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      Brilliant idea 😂

    • @johnlamond9955
      @johnlamond9955 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/hkhD75WZ9X0/video.html

    • @stevengraham7627
      @stevengraham7627 Pƙed 3 lety +41

      Freddie would outdrink Ollie and outfight him in any ensuing pub brawls.

    • @sm-qw9mj
      @sm-qw9mj Pƙed 3 lety +12

      @@walterkramp-holzwarth862 There is also the infamous Tour de (insert the name of a local lake here). Here you must ride around a lake and stop and drink a beer on every bench that you come by along the way. The fastest time wins.

    • @neemyn407
      @neemyn407 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@sm-qw9mj Unicycle wars but this is the main plot.

  • @michaelo6870
    @michaelo6870 Pƙed 3 lety +573

    I think the biggest difference between us amateurs and professionals is that they are faster in the climbs, flats and descents. The rest is quite the same...

    • @danielchanoch
      @danielchanoch Pƙed 3 lety +35

      hmmm iam afraid they are probably faster even going underwater ...

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      LOL no, the rest is not the same

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld Pƙed 3 lety +11

      Well, weight was kind of the same between Andrew and Ollie, but genetics, diet, and training methods are very different. Not only did he beat him by over 1 minute, he did so without being nearly as tired, so that would quickly compound over time. Now, comparing normal people with Andrew proves more uneven as there are major differences at every level, including weight and body type.

    • @waqistar28
      @waqistar28 Pƙed 3 lety

      Hahhahaha. Basically theyre better at everythingđŸ€Ł

    • @0741921
      @0741921 Pƙed 3 lety +15

      @@Bayo106 it was a joke, what else is there other than climbs flats and descents

  • @scj350
    @scj350 Pƙed 3 lety +75

    As Mark Twain once said most eloquently, “Comparison is the death of joy”. Ride on Freddie!

  • @argentum001
    @argentum001 Pƙed 3 lety +163

    The good news for Freddie is he's got a huge and exciting margin of progress lying ahead of him, whereas Andrew's and Ollie's are pretty close to zero

    • @imjonathan6745
      @imjonathan6745 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      in actuality freddie will never beat the "amateur" guy

  • @cliffcox7643
    @cliffcox7643 Pƙed 3 lety +685

    Freddie, needs to be in more vids, because he represents the normal man, and the entry level cyclist, which this station's target audience.

    • @TeKeyaKrystal
      @TeKeyaKrystal Pƙed 3 lety +9

      I agree ! put fat boy in more videos !
      b/c it gives my fat self hope

    • @petesharp3640
      @petesharp3640 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      I agree that some sort of training program with Freddie would be great. But I don't think GCN's target audience is the entry level cyclist. Sure, there certainly is content for them but I've been riding for 20 years, rode 5,000+ miles so far this year, do some fun races occasionally, and I still am learning. I can't get enough of GCN. GCN has a very broad target audience.

    • @cliffcox7643
      @cliffcox7643 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      @@petesharp3640 It would actually be good to see Freddie in some sort of training program that GC and endorses and always recommends to us lay people. It would be good to see how a normal average cyclist develops with their training tips.

    • @petesharp3640
      @petesharp3640 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@cliffcox7643 for sure!

    • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
      @jameslee-pevenhull5087 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      If Freddie does too much, he becomes the Amateur level rider.

  • @timw8926
    @timw8926 Pƙed 3 lety +1120

    Fair play to Freddie! Great effort from the young lad, definitely not an easy one.

    • @jamesbarber6375
      @jamesbarber6375 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Fair play indeed, as someone who weighs a similar amount and has been cycling as long I thought he was going to be walking the speed he set off.

    • @colinmcdonald2499
      @colinmcdonald2499 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Fair Play to Freddie: sounds like the name of an alt-rock band from the 00's!

    • @hisdadjames4876
      @hisdadjames4876 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      Got to smile when Ollie says ‘pros, compared to the rest of us’. He’s an amazingly good cyclist...everesting, hour record etc. ‘The rest of us’ is more like Freddy

    • @Robertius
      @Robertius Pƙed 3 lety +15

      Should have taken similar weight classes tho. 92kg vs 68kg and 65kg đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™‚ïž

    • @samhouse8922
      @samhouse8922 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@Robertius that's entirely the point of the video

  • @mrsmd4616
    @mrsmd4616 Pƙed 3 lety +304

    Pro: go easy at the start
    Freddie: fuck that lol

  • @The-sign-of-Jonah
    @The-sign-of-Jonah Pƙed 3 lety +46

    This was exciting to watch...reminded me I've also got a bicycle in the garage...made me feel like getting it out...so I just waited till the feeling passed...

  • @kingemmanuelfilart
    @kingemmanuelfilart Pƙed 3 lety +605

    I thought I was a “keen amateur” but after watching this video, I realized I’m more of a Freddie. More Freddie content please! 👍

    • @TeKeyaKrystal
      @TeKeyaKrystal Pƙed 3 lety +5

      right 😂 I’m most definitely a beginner

    • @gamma_dablam
      @gamma_dablam Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Freddie is more like amateur rather than beginner.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@gamma_dablam An amateur is somebody who isn't paid to do it. It has nothing to do with ability, as is demonstrated by the fact that all three riders in this video are actually amateurs.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@ark8tct No. Ollie is paid to make videos about cycling, not to cycle _per se_.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld Pƙed 3 lety

      ​@@beeble2003 It also tends to go along with skill level. If you're bad, you won't be paid for it, whereas, if you're great, it's very likely that you are or will be paid for it (unless you turn it down, of course). Bobby Jones in Golf is the best example I know of from sports. The greatest Golfer in the world yet was never a 'pro'. Andrew holds records, which makes him pro-level even if he isn't paid for it. Also, in theory, Paul Morphy is another example, as being the greatest Chess player in the world by far at the time, yet he refused money for his victory at the American Congress (took home some steel ware, instead). Not really a pro and world championship didn't exist, so he was kind of an amateur, technically speaking, whilst being the very best. Nonetheless, goes along with skill level most of the time (for most sports, anyway).

  • @cenkee
    @cenkee Pƙed 3 lety +305

    freddie instantly became the face and the voice of the millions. :) he is the average cycling enthusiast in which we all see ourselves. as mentioned before in other comments you should include average joes like freddie more in your videos.

    • @franciscovargas2761
      @franciscovargas2761 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Great point! I agree 100%

    • @peterallison290
      @peterallison290 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Yup I third that! I am Freddie too, plus about 20yrs and 20kg!!

    • @lesterroberts1628
      @lesterroberts1628 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      The winner is subjective in this case. Freddie was carrying more weight across a fixed distance. He got a best workout, while spending the least amount of money on his workout machine. He only lost if we stay narrowly focused on speed or time.

    • @uberkloden
      @uberkloden Pƙed 3 lety

      Freddie could do better, but he would need to ride with proper racers.

  • @jontiruell1934
    @jontiruell1934 Pƙed 3 lety +32

    Andrew did a ride on the hills just next to where I live on Exmoor and swept up a healthy handful of fairly tough KOMs by pretty large margins, its kind of scary how strong he is

  • @jemfleury5100
    @jemfleury5100 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    Give Freddie a recurring show!!!! I would love to hear and watch his cycling journey as he becomes engrossed and falls in love with cycling. It's so inspiring to see someone's journey of falling for the bike bug.

  • @evanking920
    @evanking920 Pƙed 3 lety +414

    Freddie looks like he could Bench Press both Ollie and Andrew at the same time. He attacked the hill like a weight lifter.

    • @evanking920
      @evanking920 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      Also..
      I would like to see how Freddie transforms his physique into the leaner more cycling specific body. I personally was a power lifter in the early nineties and weighed 235 pounds (107 kg. approximately). A year and half later after I switched to cycling including racing I was 175 pounds (approximately 80 kg.)

    • @johnlamond9955
      @johnlamond9955 Pƙed 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/5W8qW1rzA1o/video.html

    • @Dave-lr2wo
      @Dave-lr2wo Pƙed 3 lety +10

      @cunning_linguist An elite cyclist is not a good look. Have you seen Tour riders off their bikes? They all look like aliens -- huge heads and tiny willowy bodies. The best possible physiques are the sprints in track and field and probably the pinnacle is a decathlete. That's the idea physical specimen.

    • @Dave-lr2wo
      @Dave-lr2wo Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @cunning_linguist yep, exactly. that's why they're so phenomenal on the bike -- leg power and efficiency of the best of the best but no weight anywhere else. Pwr/Wt is just crazy.

    • @tsavin
      @tsavin Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@Dave-lr2wo That's why I got into Triathlon. Swimming is great for physique. Running gives you great core, glutes and legs. But I love cycling the most.

  • @KatieKookaburra
    @KatieKookaburra Pƙed 3 lety +282

    Shout out to the guy at 3.11 just getting his chippy tea. Then realised he was on camera so did a cheeky coin flip!

  • @cookiekooke
    @cookiekooke Pƙed 3 lety +97

    Loved how Freddie completely disregards the advice “don’t start off too hard” 😂 😂 fair play to him though that looked grim.

  • @nauertb
    @nauertb Pƙed 3 lety +17

    That was impressive, unbelievable how easy Andrew made it look. Absolutely in awe of his power. Way to go Freddie representing us normal folk. Curious how many meters elevation was gained?

  • @Schabo1234
    @Schabo1234 Pƙed 3 lety +295

    Mad respect to Freddie to put himself out there in front of the gcn community as a beginner with obviously a sprinter body type ...damn !

    • @janatlmb2770
      @janatlmb2770 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Hear hear, I say.

    • @johnlamond9955
      @johnlamond9955 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/hkhD75WZ9X0/video.html

    • @ivansemanco6976
      @ivansemanco6976 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      For me he looks more like frame twister body type, such arms can destroy any type of frame. Respect to Freddie, true sportsman.

    • @johnlamond9955
      @johnlamond9955 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/5W8qW1rzA1o/video.html

    • @nottheone582
      @nottheone582 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      "sprinter" body type. i was thinking more french fry

  • @flyinlo1474
    @flyinlo1474 Pƙed 3 lety +273

    I second the motion to have Freddy always included to represent a large population of cyclist!

  • @englishrose4388
    @englishrose4388 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Loved this. It was really helpful to see how much more a part of the bike Andrew was and how efficient his body movement up the hill. I’d love to see more like this, with tips of what the pros are doing better-beyond lots of training, of course.

  • @muzzahills8170
    @muzzahills8170 Pƙed 2 lety

    Loved this video GCN, go Freddie ! Good comparison and well done, thank you

  • @paddytod7773
    @paddytod7773 Pƙed 3 lety +279

    Did Freddy got twice the money for this clip? He worked twice as long ;-)

  • @dh7314
    @dh7314 Pƙed 3 lety +783

    Video Idea: You pay for a coach for freddie for 6 months, do a monthly blog/diary, then take him back to do the same hill and see how much he improved.
    Well done Freddie lad

    • @jambo2502
      @jambo2502 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      Watch something called "Tour de tietema"
      Thats a shorter version of your idea. Albeit in Dutch it has subs and is super well made.

    • @TeKeyaKrystal
      @TeKeyaKrystal Pƙed 3 lety +6

      ou , I’d like to see that .. give us normal folks hope of how much we can improve

    • @Ystadcop
      @Ystadcop Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Good man, Freddie. Wicked respect.

    • @stiffjalopy4189
      @stiffjalopy4189 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Came here to say the same thing! Give him a shot, @GCN; Freddie seems game!

    • @jatinmaharao6888
      @jatinmaharao6888 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@jambo2502 available on CZcams?

  • @aitchy2k01
    @aitchy2k01 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    This is a great video and gives us amateurs perspective and a concept of the greatness of a pro cyclist’s physical fitness and ability. I appreciate what they can do. The pro wasn’t breathing hard at all. I appreciate videos of this type, please keep them coming. Thank you.

  • @edwardhicks130
    @edwardhicks130 Pƙed 3 lety +14

    For me, I love seeing all the data; any video that puts pro-like cyclists through their paces and discloses their watts I'd be very keen to see! It's just staggering to see what the pros can do, especially when more and more amateurs have power meters these days and so the numbers actally mean something ...just sub 500W for 5+mins @ 65kg!!!

  • @mikestahlsuperfunkomatic
    @mikestahlsuperfunkomatic Pƙed 3 lety +44

    That's what's great about cycling. There's always someone out there that humbles you and knocks you down a few pegs. There's always a 'next' level.

  • @jkmaseruman
    @jkmaseruman Pƙed 3 lety +296

    Perhaps if Ollie changed his surname to Balsawood then he'd be as fast and light as Andrew Feather.

  • @SirAdammmmm
    @SirAdammmmm Pƙed 3 lety +54

    I live at the top of a 500m 11% avg hill which I cycle up several times a week. Over the year I've taken over 2 minutes off my time and got top 50 on strava for this segment with long term ambitions of becoming 1st.
    1st belongs to one Andrew Feather. After watching this, I don't feel as if it's going to be possible so I've set my sights on a different goal. I bet I can go down said hill faster than Andrew... the bast****.

    • @davidmorris6841
      @davidmorris6841 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      David Morris
      0 seconds ago
      I feel your pain. I live in Bath. In fact I work a 2 min walk from the GCN office, and I must say... its annoying when you think you've absolutely killed a climb, you check you're strava, and your 4 minutes off the fastest time, and it's bloomin Andrew Feather who holds the KOM. I swear....EVERY TIME!

    • @MulhavenBushcraft
      @MulhavenBushcraft Pƙed rokem

      😅😅

    • @nodders1
      @nodders1 Pƙed rokem

      Yo, bro, I was born at the foot of Zoncolan... Took me 33 years to repeat a climb I first did as an 11years old without realising how hard it was. Nowadays at around the hour mark I think "this cracked Pantani" and sweat blood and tears in the 20% sections. I don't even bother checking my time on Strava, too demoralising. My inner monologue is "I can endure this torture twice as long as a pro" and that's where I'm at. If I ever make it to the top again without stopping, I'll die a happy soul!

  • @chrisgarrett2061
    @chrisgarrett2061 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    My new favourite cycling video. Freddie, you've got lots of company out there!

  • @fatgirlonbike7153
    @fatgirlonbike7153 Pƙed 3 lety +71

    Thank you for having a "real" Person in this Video.
    Not just those featherlight pros / ex-pros.

    • @petef15
      @petef15 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Yeah feather is a monster. Humiliates every attempt anyone makes on strava.

    • @cornishalps9870
      @cornishalps9870 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@petef15 ah I've taken two of his koms before, although that was 2016/17 feather

  • @LordBikealot
    @LordBikealot Pƙed 3 lety +223

    Should have had a 4th racer, "the old geezer", let me know for next time

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 3 lety +48

      We asked Lloydy but he couldn't make it...

    • @LordBikealot
      @LordBikealot Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@gcn Oh Lloydy - I'd kick his a...

    • @PianoKwanMan
      @PianoKwanMan Pƙed 3 lety +9

      That guy who cycles up there everyday for forty years to go to work

    • @philgray1023
      @philgray1023 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Having been flogged by blokes twice my age I wouldn't be surprised if the result was different than most people think. Of course I've now run out of riders twice my age to challenge me, so if anyone knows a cyclist in their 120's let me know.

    • @WegrennerX
      @WegrennerX Pƙed 3 lety

      @@PianoKwanMan the mailman on a bike 😎

  • @cryptojedii
    @cryptojedii Pƙed 3 lety

    That was SOO MOTIVATING to see!!! Thank you so much for sharing - from Chicago, IL!!! :)

  • @PipistrellaVideo
    @PipistrellaVideo Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Andrew is like a work of art climbing those hills, what a beautiful man

  • @tartineboy41
    @tartineboy41 Pƙed 3 lety +85

    "it Never Gets easier, you Just go faster"
    Greg lemond

  • @cyclingnerddelux698
    @cyclingnerddelux698 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    Andrew Feather seems like a straight up, down to earth bloke. Hats off to Freddy for taking one for the team! And what you said at the end is exactly on target. No matter what your ability level, everyone is suffering!

    • @T_Mo271
      @T_Mo271 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      When I started cycling, I read a quote somewhere that it never gets easier, you just go farther and higher.

    • @TeKeyaKrystal
      @TeKeyaKrystal Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Andrew Feather definitely didn’t *look* like he was suffering .. I’m out of breath just thinking about it !

    • @johnlamond9955
      @johnlamond9955 Pƙed 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/hkhD75WZ9X0/video.html

  • @alvilla701
    @alvilla701 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Even watching a video like this one, I can't comprehend how great a professional is

  • @martinmartin400
    @martinmartin400 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    One of the best GCN video...fun and very informative..

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 2 lety

      Glad you liked it!

  • @neal9151
    @neal9151 Pƙed 3 lety +34

    Freddie did great - the competition was super tough and that hill is savage!

  • @PhilippeMarchand-xw1zp
    @PhilippeMarchand-xw1zp Pƙed 3 lety +15

    A friend of mine who is a gifted triathlet and a very well trained cyclist told me that few years ago while climbing a pyrenees pass he was overtaken by Mark Cavendish. As a sprinter, the Cav is a below average climber (to say it nicely) but he's much better in mountain than a very fit amateur.
    That says a lot about what it takes to be a pro!

  • @paultroalic6676
    @paultroalic6676 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Fascinating vid. I'm just back into the sport of cycling though far too old but finding it surprisingly okay.
    Need to build up stamina now.

  • @marktimm9954
    @marktimm9954 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Great video; I'd like to see more about HOW to increase one's Power Output; It's self-evident that pro's and experienced cyclists are faster up the hills; but PART 2 would be: HOW Freddie reduced his climb time by 50%; or something like that.... The drills, the mileage, the hill climb repeats, etc... Would love to see something like that

  • @pdrawmer
    @pdrawmer Pƙed 3 lety +66

    Thank you for this video.
    I'm a keen amateur, and I've been back into cycling for a couple of years now. I've even got a well used turbo trainer in the garage.
    Freddie would 'blow my doors off'. As I get older, the strength just ebbs away. I don't have to stop on the hills, but at 74 I'm just getting slower and slower.
    BUT - I still enjoy getting out and going as best I can. After each ride, I check the Strava segments, compare within my age group, and find excuses!
    Keep it up all you Freddies - you will get faster.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Pƙed 3 lety +8

      That's awesome that you're still getting out and riding! Keep it up, we're sure you're inspiring plenty of others to ride!

    • @Okonkwo238
      @Okonkwo238 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      If I can get on a bike at 74 years of age, I'll count that as a blessing in of itself! Well done, and don't ever stop👏🏿

    • @gliddofglood
      @gliddofglood Pƙed 3 lety +1

      About the only people I ever overtake are 74.

    • @pdrawmer
      @pdrawmer Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@gliddofglood glad to be of service 😁

    • @lothburke2243
      @lothburke2243 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I started at 39 and I was told that am to old đŸ€” đŸ€Ł 74 is unbelievable sir 👍

  • @tbag1989dc
    @tbag1989dc Pƙed 3 lety +288

    Average speed:
    - Andrew 29,2 km/h
    - Ollie 23,4 km/h
    - Freddie 11,6 km/h

    • @andrewfielden284
      @andrewfielden284 Pƙed 3 lety +129

      F*** me, 29.2 km/h up a 7% hill!

    • @peachycranberry
      @peachycranberry Pƙed 3 lety +13

      @@andrewfielden284 I know right; insane 😰 but not impossible, just requires lots of training.

    • @andrewfielden284
      @andrewfielden284 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      @@peachycranberry I'll get right on to that after I've done my sub 20 5k run :)

    • @peachycranberry
      @peachycranberry Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@andrewfielden284 nicee 😎 I haven’t broken 20 just yet in the 5k; I need to work on pace

    • @Yocarisfastlike
      @Yocarisfastlike Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Miles ?

  • @scottlindall157
    @scottlindall157 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This is a great video, keep them coming. I am Freddie each weekend, and I can accept the the +13 minutes, but I would have a cold brew in the back pocket for the finish

  • @Asstreetfoodie
    @Asstreetfoodie Pƙed 3 lety

    Genuinely felt like nothing in my portrait mode when you are going down hill but in middle of the video switched to horizontal mode then suddenly I am thinking as if I am in your LAP with riding with you all along for the rest of the video. Awesome bro for the beautiful video.

  • @aamj50
    @aamj50 Pƙed 3 lety +91

    I've learned all I need to know about how to climb faster:
    I'm off to the garage to rip off my bar tape!

    • @xmb9972
      @xmb9972 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Make sure you wipe the grease off your chain too. It will save you 005 grams.

    • @rodddrake
      @rodddrake Pƙed 3 lety

      Ha ha. Ridiculous. That's just to wind people up, surely 😄

  • @forzaferrari8088
    @forzaferrari8088 Pƙed 3 lety +211

    Beginner VS Amateur VS Pro: Descent

    • @LarsRR
      @LarsRR Pƙed 3 lety +41

      A descending race might be a little dodgy for a beginner...

    • @KOMHuntTV
      @KOMHuntTV Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Change "beginner" to 'chunky' and I'll do it ;-)

    • @jamesstringerphoto
      @jamesstringerphoto Pƙed 3 lety +17

      I've done around 2500km of road cycle since April, in the Alps so a lot of hills and descent. Given I'm around 93kg also, I descend pretty rapidly (thanks gravity). For the first time since I got the bike, yesterday I set a new record for descending a hill I've done a few times. So fast in fact I came over my handlebars and onto my face and shoulder. One dislocated collarbone and some stitches has made me reconsider my cannon ball descent down hills like this in Italy.

    • @johnandrews3568
      @johnandrews3568 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      This... no twists to make it dangerous, just a flat out drag race without pedalling. I'm guessing Freddie at 92kg would have a good chance of being competitive.

    • @filippo1459
      @filippo1459 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@jamesstringerphoto Gravity does not make you descend faster... at least not in the sense you are thinking :D

  • @chocksaway100
    @chocksaway100 Pƙed 3 lety

    Absolutely fascinating video well done to the 3 of you.

  • @rickcoyne7845
    @rickcoyne7845 Pƙed rokem

    Awesome Video Ollie !!

  • @heidijarvis777
    @heidijarvis777 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    Well done lads. I’ve been road cycling about 2 yrs now and have in the past have to get off and walk up the hills. Last weekend during a 100km ride we hit a Strava segment called the Billesley Wall and it hit 21% at one point and I made it to the top without stopping 😀

  • @AlanLyne
    @AlanLyne Pƙed 3 lety +629

    Freddie lost because he was using disc brakes.

  • @thibod07
    @thibod07 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    All three of you were very impressive to watch! Although Freddie was by far the slowest he really impressed me by his stature. Freddie is a real fighter. He knew that he was not as experienced as both of you yet he did his best too. 😁😁😁 . Thank you for sharing.

  • @williamring2766
    @williamring2766 Pƙed 2 lety

    This is the best video you’ve done. Power to weight ratio spelled doom for the new guy but kudos to him for trying. Wish I were going toSaalbach as looks like it will be great.Again great video.đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @MrShane1066
    @MrShane1066 Pƙed 3 lety +25

    Probably the most interesting video GCN have made in a while, more like this please.

  • @mikecranapple8878
    @mikecranapple8878 Pƙed 3 lety +33

    "Even his name is lightweight." That's gold Jerry. GOLD!

  • @robburton3255
    @robburton3255 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    One of my favorite videos you guys have made! Hats off to Freddie! And, if you didn't have mad respect for the pros, you should now!

  • @daviddembrow6346
    @daviddembrow6346 Pƙed 3 lety

    I love that wall you're leaning against at the end. Very appropriate.

  • @davidmarshall2399
    @davidmarshall2399 Pƙed 3 lety +110

    Good to see a real person like Freddy getting a crack. He's 15 or 20kg lighter than me.

    • @richardhaselwood9478
      @richardhaselwood9478 Pƙed 3 lety

      Same :)

    • @mlustosakm
      @mlustosakm Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Freddy represents me, i am 1,90m 120kg dying to climb.

    • @tr4x1ymus
      @tr4x1ymus Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@mlustosakm same height, same weight man, and would love to ride that climb just to see how i do. aerodynamic as a brick but still can climb.

    • @JayLato
      @JayLato Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@tr4x1ymus still more aero than Conor

    • @tr4x1ymus
      @tr4x1ymus Pƙed 3 lety

      @@JayLato hah, if i loose a lot of weight then yes, otherwise we are about the same

  • @coflame167
    @coflame167 Pƙed 3 lety +18

    Top effort Freddie! That was brilliant

  • @davidetomarchio4790
    @davidetomarchio4790 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Let's all cheer Freddie because he's the one who faced the biggest challenge! Great job, I feel like Freddie when I go around climbing in my part (Italian Alps), I generally follow GCN Italy, but these tests are really beautiful, great job!
    #gcnitaliarisponde #alanrisponde #giorgiorisponde #gcn risponde : uno spunto per qualche prossima puntata ;) Ciaoo!

  • @robertchubb1518
    @robertchubb1518 Pƙed 3 lety

    Very good to see “novice/beginner” riders...here as mortals...I myself am just getting back into this and breaking the habits of “pub first...ride...maybe if I feel ok”...
    Would be great if you for instance followed a mere mortal that wants to change their lifestyle...perhaps do a series on it...

  • @supernpstr
    @supernpstr Pƙed 3 lety +19

    Man I saw myself in Freddie every time I do the Zwift climbs - Good job man!

  • @davidgriffiths7591
    @davidgriffiths7591 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Freddie brilliant work mate ,love to see that great effort 👏👏👏

  • @keithbreaux612
    @keithbreaux612 Pƙed 3 lety

    Well done Freddy!!! Keep up the good work.

  • @clauslindemann
    @clauslindemann Pƙed 3 lety +7

    I used to be in that kind of shape, at 96 kilos and 50 of years I would be happy to that climp in half an hour. Well done guys!

  • @slwsnowman4038
    @slwsnowman4038 Pƙed 3 lety +23

    "I HATE YOU!" is the only appropriate response when someone blows your doors off like that on a climb.
    lol

  • @patrickbaker7014
    @patrickbaker7014 Pƙed 3 lety +137

    Me on climbs: "I'm too weak"
    Me on flat sprints: "UNLIMITED POWER"

    • @anshiletv9016
      @anshiletv9016 Pƙed 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/RRIZrOBCVPM/video.html

    • @moisesrosario9716
      @moisesrosario9716 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      It's this a ROTS reference?

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 Pƙed 3 lety

      Hear hear!

    • @Huss_110
      @Huss_110 Pƙed 3 lety

      This is me and I cannot deny it

    • @tugarrote
      @tugarrote Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Wtf!!!! ???? I thought I was a freak!!! On flat and downhill I’m a monster!! But uphills I totally suck!!! I learned that I breathe through my mouth instead of nose!! But what the hell!! How do I train?? I’m definitely a Freddie I’m 81 kilos or 180lbs I went from road to mountain biking and it’s fun....ner but I need coaching, or more Freddie vids

  • @kainuu3157
    @kainuu3157 Pƙed 3 lety

    Super cool! You guys are great! đŸšŽâ€â™‚ïžđŸš”â€â™‚ïžđŸš”â€â™‚ïž

  • @mondragonfilmclassics912
    @mondragonfilmclassics912 Pƙed 3 lety

    This is a great video. It really encapsulates why bike riding is so fun.

  • @discobicycle1
    @discobicycle1 Pƙed 3 lety +24

    If he has the time, you should make Freddie a "project" for GCN and see how fit you can make him in 2021

    • @IntenseComputerTrain
      @IntenseComputerTrain Pƙed 3 lety +1

      but then freddie will become one of them. This will not do.

    • @fchau6019
      @fchau6019 Pƙed 3 lety

      Great idea! If Freddie refuses, I can volunteer !

  • @illuminatustm
    @illuminatustm Pƙed 3 lety +57

    Freddy has a great suffer-face

  • @johnbarbuto5387
    @johnbarbuto5387 Pƙed rokem

    Great fun! Thank you for your inspiration - and perspiration! It is wonderful to see what the human body can do (when gifted with the genes, time, and diligence required - oh yeah, and then there is a good bike!).

  • @reidflemingworldstoughestm1394

    The title reflects a much more interesting question than the one the video addressed. It would be a lot more useful to know the pros' speed going up a variety of slopes -- 14 kph up 15%, 20 kph up 10% -- that sort of thing... something we could actually use while we're watching the TdF, or slogging up a hill.

  • @JV-qn6ys
    @JV-qn6ys Pƙed 3 lety +33

    The true ultimate leveler: after they're done, do an arm wrestle. Take that Andrew!

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 Pƙed 3 lety

      @Top Trending I have a picture of a teammate on the beach at Lake Tahoe on a return trip from US Nationals. Quads of tree trunks and a shriveled upper body. True freak of nature!
      Cyclists: leg muscle growth while upper body atrophy goes crazy.

  • @rik8809
    @rik8809 Pƙed 3 lety +50

    I’m sure that Freddy now appreciates the “gravity” of the situation.

  • @rouletteplace
    @rouletteplace Pƙed 3 lety

    Great video, informative and funny, thanks.

  • @aixpert291
    @aixpert291 Pƙed 3 lety

    I love these comparisons. Thanks for including Freddy.

  • @robwgriffith
    @robwgriffith Pƙed 3 lety +12

    I'd be way back, I'm such a slow climber other cyclists passing me ( which occurs a lot) often ask If I'm ok.

  • @alexvpaq
    @alexvpaq Pƙed 3 lety +14

    Reminds me of these times up the mountains when you feel like you're having a good day and some dude just pass you: goes hey, great day isn't it! And just goes on to crush your soul by climbing at like 2 or 3 time your speed as if it was normal.
    I know your pain Freddie!

    • @gliddofglood
      @gliddofglood Pƙed 3 lety +2

      These days they are on electric bikes and wearing jeans and not even sweating. One woman apologised to me as she zoomed past.

    • @rogerhill99
      @rogerhill99 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I was riding near Pau and a bunch of school children passed me, I got the odd concerned look as I was travelling so slowly for someone brought up in the Pyrenees

  • @mirtearz737
    @mirtearz737 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I love your video.
    Thanks, My friend. Have a happy day~

  • @umar_manga
    @umar_manga Pƙed 3 lety

    Thanks a lot a great filming

  • @samueljewell7380
    @samueljewell7380 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I used to live in Bath and the hill segments were dominated by Andrew his times were absolutely insane

  • @oliverbridgewood3929
    @oliverbridgewood3929 Pƙed 3 lety +25

    hi everyone! thanks for all the comments and suggestions for future vids! the weight handicap idea is great!

    • @andymiller3889
      @andymiller3889 Pƙed 3 lety

      I would think that if you pushed yourself on VO2 Max efforts over the next three weeks (40/20 micro-intervals, 2min-8min over on's, and threw in some 4x8 threshold work), you'd absolutely smash 6 minutes in a retest next month. You have more talent than you give yourself credit for.

    • @nicholassmith831
      @nicholassmith831 Pƙed 3 lety

      for a proper science experiment shouldnt it be a watts/kg handicap as a rider that can push 400 watts with an additional 30 kg can still push harder than a rider that can push 150 watts

    • @davethelawguy
      @davethelawguy Pƙed 3 lety

      @Oliver Bridgewood send Jeremy out to Colorado (or Si again) and they can do a gravel version against this 100kg fred, solicitor (we call us lawyers), father of two. Twist for the western states version: our short climbs are 600m. Even with the advantage of living at 2200m ASL, I’d still receive my backside on a platter.

    • @oliverbridgewood3929
      @oliverbridgewood3929 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@nicholassmith831 good idea for a follow up vid. thanks. đŸ‘đŸŒ

  • @royevans4581
    @royevans4581 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I'm about the same weight as Freddie and he looks massive compared to those two lol. He did amazingly well and it must have hurt. Nice one. Andrew is phenomenal. Just shows how much can be achieved with hard work. Ollie is my target to aim for. If I could get as good as that I would be well happy. Long way to go.

  • @JuanSpeedAudio1
    @JuanSpeedAudio1 Pƙed 3 lety

    Hello, great video, very interesting, I congratulate you all for your delivery to this test, I send you greetings from Mexico Coacalc Hills

  • @echtogammut
    @echtogammut Pƙed 3 lety +19

    I identify with Freddie. He can take umbrage in the fact he would have to output 6-700 watts to match Andrew and even for a pro that is unsustainable over that distance.

  • @nigelphillips2523
    @nigelphillips2523 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Great to see you using normal riders in your videos. Please do more with average club riders. 👍

  • @beuttenmuller
    @beuttenmuller Pƙed 3 lety

    amazing how he makes so easy !
    nice video guys, ! thank you

  • @jeremiahchan8820
    @jeremiahchan8820 Pƙed 3 lety

    This is probably my favourite GCN video

  • @tempusfugit3635
    @tempusfugit3635 Pƙed 3 lety +49

    “I can taste blood” yep that’s always my barometer for a solid effort. Fair play gents. Also, “beep beep beep GO” is about as unsatisfying as an unresolved chord progression.

    • @stewartgrindlay9760
      @stewartgrindlay9760 Pƙed 3 lety

      Sounds daft but what’s that awful taste when you cough after heavy exercise?

    • @Wholelottarosie-lc8ed
      @Wholelottarosie-lc8ed Pƙed 3 lety

      @@stewartgrindlay9760 thats your life force leaving your body

  • @douglaspate9314
    @douglaspate9314 Pƙed 3 lety +21

    Julian lives near me! So do over 70 pros! When they pass you going up hill it feels like a motorbike has just overtaken you!

  • @ivantrgovac1906
    @ivantrgovac1906 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video. I also cycle a lot and I would fit the amateur chategory. Nice work guys : )