Holy heck, this is awesome. Clear, concise, good mic quality and time stamps! Exactly what new players in the DoW community want in a strategy video. You've got a subscriber in me!
This build orders are awesome, thanks man It really improve my playstyle especially the three kingg build which is my favorite also the scout build was disgusting my friend rage quit on me after i use on him
@@BattleBrotherCasten I would say snipers + FC is a pretty safe option because it deters players from early rushes and allows you to tech to T3 to unlock your strongest units
Thank you for the video, this is great! I'm awful about just building whatever seems good at the time and never actually putting a strategy together so this is a big help
i'ts weird that i've been playing a lot of rts games and have to figure out how to actually make a good strat for building/capping and attacking/defending. Now I see this and relief came to me that im not the only one
Just started playing this and this video is goated as just last night I was trying to figure out a layout since I got clapped by Orks and Necron in unification
Love it! Friends and I are just getting into the game. Appreciate the info :) how are you queueing things up like those generators and where the scouts will cap next? Also, how are you "over watching" building units in those mass builds? So much to learn but super excited
First of all, welcome back to SS! I would strongly recommend checking out my "5 tips for beginners video on my channel", it should answer your questions as well as provide even more tips for the game :)
Love the sniper build, wish the standard was a little more detailed for build order sake and mixing in upgrades for what purposes, also really love the flying speeder rush, that makes me able to take hard bots on with ease except chaos, such a nuisance
Would it be possible for you to make build order videos on the Unification Mod's races? I'm new to the game but I prefer the Unification Mods and have no idea how to beat more difficult AIs 😅 Great video though! Keep up the glorious work of the Imperium!
These are nice and straight forward, especially against the AI, but if you're up against an opponent in multi player, there's a ton factors to consider, like the MU, the map itself, do you execute the build 'blindlny', or scout ahead and act accordingly, etc. There's also a quite popular build for the SM, where you go for Scouts + FC early (3-4 scout squads), with no upgrades, which gives you very good map control and capping options. You can also adapt from it rather comfortably, and decide whether to go for a T 1.5 all in (e.g. research flamers and start adding Tacs, maybe some ASM), or go T2. The 'catch' is that you have to micro hard, and not allow your squads to get wiped completely.
Very true, I always urge my viewers that these videos will help guide but the best practice you can get is to go out and try it for yourself! Having said that I will be releasing some videos with these openings actually being played with real players with some commentary on my part
Really, really great tutorial! I have a couple questions, though: - Why build the Power Generators next to LPs (as opposed to build them closer to HQ)? - Why set the GK to ranged when it is in melee that they have their best damage?
1. Placing generators next to LP's provides extra defense once the LP is upgraded to an LP2. 2. It's true that GK's have better melee damage but only when they are hitting their target. If enemies are running away or very fragile, it's better to use ranged stance for better dps. Obviously, always use them in melee when attacking buildings (buildings never retreat).
@@jagusart Thanks so much! So I assume we shall give for granted that if we lose the closest LS the game is lost anyways (so we don't care if we lose the generators as well)?
If you play vs. Dark Eldar Eldar or Tau always get a skull probe it is detector and its cheap and you can attach it to the squad does not matter what build you choose always get skull probe vs. this enemy races. With snipers you do even do more damage vs. dark eldar mandrages harrasing them by killing them when they cap strategic point, same with tau stealthsuits or eldar rangers who try to do counter harras against you. With snipers you need avoid enemy comanders scout snipers does not do so much damage vs. enemy commanders and you need lp2 backup and some mines and turret when they try follow you over all map. Also with triple heroes build it is better one lp2 after one lp2 is finished for better defence then get t2 fast during making t2 then build armory some gens and then get that trios and some upgrades. And when you has over 700 requsition go for second hq instead of making 2 lp3 it is cheaper and you can build more generators and get better recource bonus then you can get lp3.
I remember trying to play Space Marine in the only 3 players map of the game and getting rekt everytime because the bots focused mostly and only on my ass, i tried like 10 times every tactic know to man and everytime i just get destroyed because it was a 1 v 2 wich is just impossible (atleast for my dumb ass).
Sry but you dont ever attach the FC to a Squad unless you need to save him because of Low health. You need him for melee. If 1 melee binds your sm+FC Squad you die. You need him to solo disrupt ranged squads.
When you right-click the reinforce button, it starts flashing. This means it's in "overwatch"; basically that squad will automatically reinforce without you having to manually do it yourself (while you have the resources, of course). This also applies to adding weapons to the squad or making units, but not for doing researches.
Probably a silly question but would this work well in the single player campaign? Since these builds are optimized for speed it would theoretically make the non stronghold missions quicker. Heck in most missions you'll start with your commander for free so you get a small break in start-up cost.
Hey Jagus, are there any viable SM build orders that *don't* go for double (or even triple!) scouts? I'm mostly asking because I just don't like scouts.
Hmmm, in team games you might be able to get away with just making one scout squad but it will be very slow for you capping your points. Because of this I don't think this would work in 1v1 games
@@beefyblom In 1v1's? It would depend heavily on the skill of your opponent. If they are a complete beginner, you probably won't have to make scouts at all and go straight for tactical marines to cap your points. Can I ask why you don't like scouts? They are extremely useful units to have especially early game
@@jagusart That's fair enough. I kinda suck at the game, so it'd probably be fine in an equal-skill game. As for why I don't like scouts, it's more of a preference than anything, but I don't like how they make tacs little more than a "tanky" ranged unit instead of the actual core of early SM, and I don't like infiltrated sniper units (just really annoying, honestly). So basically I just feel SM are overreliant on scouts when I feel tacs should have that role. Thanks for answering my questions, by the way!
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Holy heck, this is awesome. Clear, concise, good mic quality and time stamps! Exactly what new players in the DoW community want in a strategy video. You've got a subscriber in me!
Holy heck, it's the finest Down of War Soulstorm caster this side of East Yorkshire :0
Thanks Mr Landshark! Just wanted to say you were one of my inspirations to get this channel started so this really means a lot! 😁
I’m honoured :) I’ll give you a shout out in my next soulstorm game and leave links for your channel in the description for future games!
@@MrLandshark You're amazing! Thanks so much!!!
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Awesome to see this game is still going. I remember salt mining with land speeder rushes back in 2005, good times.
This is important knowledge. I am serious. If SC has "meta" builds, so should this gem of a game.
Thanks man! Yeah my dream is to bring more people to this hidden jewel
the 3 Kings strat helped me out a lot as a new player thank you
New player 8 days ago? Hell yeah dude 🤙
This build orders are awesome, thanks man
It really improve my playstyle especially the three kingg build which is my favorite also the scout build was disgusting my friend rage quit on me after i use on him
Glad to hear it!!!
What opening is best for free for all with five players?@@jagusart
@@BattleBrotherCasten I would say snipers + FC is a pretty safe option because it deters players from early rushes and allows you to tech to T3 to unlock your strongest units
Thanks a ton Jagus! your videos are SO good and helpful. Cheers from Texas,USA. Now I will practice to crush my friends into submission :)@@jagusart
@@BattleBrotherCasten No problem my friend, thanks for the comment!
Thank you for the video, this is great! I'm awful about just building whatever seems good at the time and never actually putting a strategy together so this is a big help
Glad this was able to help!
hey, i'm glad you've started to make this videos. keep going! thanks for your help learning the game this is very useful and easy to understand
Thanks man, appreciate it!
Very nice video
I always play as the Space Marines or the Imperial Guard. For the Emperor!
i'ts weird that i've been playing a lot of rts games and have to figure out how to actually make a good strat for building/capping and attacking/defending. Now I see this and relief came to me that im not the only one
Just started playing this and this video is goated as just last night I was trying to figure out a layout since I got clapped by Orks and Necron in unification
Love it! Friends and I are just getting into the game. Appreciate the info :) how are you queueing things up like those generators and where the scouts will cap next? Also, how are you "over watching" building units in those mass builds? So much to learn but super excited
First of all, welcome back to SS! I would strongly recommend checking out my "5 tips for beginners video on my channel", it should answer your questions as well as provide even more tips for the game :)
This is awesome, keep it up! Have you considered doing the races from the unification mod too?
At some point in the future, it is a possibility 😆I've never played Unification so it will be a learning process.
@@jagusart it is really good. It is the real spirtual secsesor to the base game.
Based on the actions of that ai it looks like you need the skirmish ai mod
Love the sniper build, wish the standard was a little more detailed for build order sake and mixing in upgrades for what purposes, also really love the flying speeder rush, that makes me able to take hard bots on with ease except chaos, such a nuisance
Thank you 💜
You're welcome! Hope it helped in some way
@@jagusart i immediately had to try the three kings one it's fun
Use that power wisely 😂
Would it be possible for you to make build order videos on the Unification Mod's races? I'm new to the game but I prefer the Unification Mods and have no idea how to beat more difficult AIs 😅 Great video though! Keep up the glorious work of the Imperium!
I may do it one day! Just have to learn the whole mod first 😆Thanks for the suggestion!
These are nice and straight forward, especially against the AI, but if you're up against an opponent in multi player, there's a ton factors to consider, like the MU, the map itself, do you execute the build 'blindlny', or scout ahead and act accordingly, etc.
There's also a quite popular build for the SM, where you go for Scouts + FC early (3-4 scout squads), with no upgrades, which gives you very good map control and capping options. You can also adapt from it rather comfortably, and decide whether to go for a T 1.5 all in (e.g. research flamers and start adding Tacs, maybe some ASM), or go T2. The 'catch' is that you have to micro hard, and not allow your squads to get wiped completely.
Very true, I always urge my viewers that these videos will help guide but the best practice you can get is to go out and try it for yourself! Having said that I will be releasing some videos with these openings actually being played with real players with some commentary on my part
@@jagusart Looking forward to it.
Really, really great tutorial!
I have a couple questions, though:
- Why build the Power Generators next to LPs (as opposed to build them closer to HQ)?
- Why set the GK to ranged when it is in melee that they have their best damage?
1. Placing generators next to LP's provides extra defense once the LP is upgraded to an LP2.
2. It's true that GK's have better melee damage but only when they are hitting their target. If enemies are running away or very fragile, it's better to use ranged stance for better dps. Obviously, always use them in melee when attacking buildings (buildings never retreat).
@@jagusart Thanks so much! So I assume we shall give for granted that if we lose the closest LS the game is lost anyways (so we don't care if we lose the generators as well)?
If you play vs. Dark Eldar Eldar or Tau always get a skull probe it is detector and its cheap and you can attach it to the squad does not matter what build you choose always get skull probe vs. this enemy races. With snipers you do even do more damage vs. dark eldar mandrages harrasing them by killing them when they cap strategic point, same with tau stealthsuits or eldar rangers who try to do counter harras against you. With snipers you need avoid enemy comanders scout snipers does not do so much damage vs. enemy commanders and you need lp2 backup and some mines and turret when they try follow you over all map. Also with triple heroes build it is better one lp2 after one lp2 is finished for better defence then get t2 fast during making t2 then build armory some gens and then get that trios and some upgrades. And when you has over 700 requsition go for second hq instead of making 2 lp3 it is cheaper and you can build more generators and get better recource bonus then you can get lp3.
Thanks for this
Subscribed! great content
Much appreciated! and welcome aboard! 😁
I actually really liked the flamer spam on marines. No commander and keep going until you get speeders (don't reinforce the squads)
Good videos, man
Thanks man, really appreciate it!
I remember trying to play Space Marine in the only 3 players map of the game and getting rekt everytime because the bots focused mostly and only on my ass, i tried like 10 times every tactic know to man and everytime i just get destroyed because it was a 1 v 2 wich is just impossible (atleast for my dumb ass).
Well done
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Sry but you dont ever attach the FC to a Squad unless you need to save him because of Low health. You need him for melee. If 1 melee binds your sm+FC Squad you die. You need him to solo disrupt ranged squads.
How do you que Cap orders?
Great stuff!
Hold Shift then right click to queue :)
What is "overwatch"? Im trying to get a bit better to play with my cousin. We used to play as kids and are getting back into it
When you right-click the reinforce button, it starts flashing. This means it's in "overwatch"; basically that squad will automatically reinforce without you having to manually do it yourself (while you have the resources, of course). This also applies to adding weapons to the squad or making units, but not for doing researches.
No wonder got my ass kicked regularly @jagusart
great
Jagus what's your favourite colour?
Red, why's that?
@@jagusart y not :]
What's urs? ;)
@@jagusart 🍊 :)
Probably a silly question but would this work well in the single player campaign? Since these builds are optimized for speed it would theoretically make the non stronghold missions quicker. Heck in most missions you'll start with your commander for free so you get a small break in start-up cost.
Absolutely! I used these builds myself for the SM campaign.
Hey Jagus, are there any viable SM build orders that *don't* go for double (or even triple!) scouts? I'm mostly asking because I just don't like scouts.
Hmmm, in team games you might be able to get away with just making one scout squad but it will be very slow for you capping your points. Because of this I don't think this would work in 1v1 games
@@jagusart What's the closest to viable we can get, then?
@@beefyblom In 1v1's? It would depend heavily on the skill of your opponent. If they are a complete beginner, you probably won't have to make scouts at all and go straight for tactical marines to cap your points. Can I ask why you don't like scouts? They are extremely useful units to have especially early game
@@jagusart That's fair enough. I kinda suck at the game, so it'd probably be fine in an equal-skill game.
As for why I don't like scouts, it's more of a preference than anything, but I don't like how they make tacs little more than a "tanky" ranged unit instead of the actual core of early SM, and I don't like infiltrated sniper units (just really annoying, honestly). So basically I just feel SM are overreliant on scouts when I feel tacs should have that role.
Thanks for answering my questions, by the way!
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do you have Build Orders for Quickstart?
I don't! You're probably the first to mention QS. I rarely play QS games, but when I do it's usually just spamming 😂
is there a down of war community like discord server I cant find any
2 big ones are Mr Landshark and DoW SS UK server
is this steam dow1 ?? how you get the zoom out camera mod to work ??
Did you know that if powerplants are placed touching another structure, it will improve the production speed of said building?
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Sounds like Elon Musk is playing DOW
Why do people always say that 😂 We sound nothing alike
Ur voice shaking