The Most Important Spider-Man Character You Never Heard Of
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- The 1981 Spider-Man series introduced us to Goron, the man with weird eye powers and an elaborate backstory never to be explained!
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Goron was so influential that Shigeru Miyamoto made an entire race in Zelda to honor him
That's not what happened at all, it was Eiji Aonuma, he was the director.
@@cameronstone4495sorry... but
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Miyazaki
The UN unanimously voting the guy in the scary metal mask literally named "Dr. Doom" as "master of all seven continents" might be the greatest thing, maybe ever.
“DOOM… is master of the world!”
I mean, they have had a country with active slavery on the councel for human rights. So the real life UN is probably more cartoonishly evil than their comic counterpart.
Disclaimer: if you are a fan of Dr Doom, watching this will make you lose respect for him... but you'll also get to see Goron smiling and winking, so it's ok
Dr Doom has nothing on Magneto in his ecological car
No wonder Squirrel Girl beat him
@@jbiehlable It's canon!
Big fan of DrDoom here but I think it was too early for him to be badass(at least in cartoons)
More likely it's a Doom bot.
Goron gives me that sorta D&D vibe when the DM is a little inexperienced and he's come up with this NPC he's totally stoked about introducing to his players, but he forgot to actually explain all the interesting details that only exist in his head.
Exactly! When players start asking about his outfit and mannerisms, he starts muttering about a reddish outfit and he's bald, etc. lol.
also he has multiple different eye beams like a beholder
maybe he's a half human, half beholder hybrid! 😱
Goron is should be an NPC in my next game
"These plants eat insects!"
"Spiders aren't insects."
And mushrooms aren't plants either.
Goron, the Worst Entomologist ever
@@DasKame Also the worst botanist, mycologist and arachnologist.
"Whenever Goron isn't on screen, people should ask 'where's Goron?'"
Goron: "Who are you?"
::Wabuu, Old Man,Siro, and Bonesteel emerged from the shadows::
Wabuu: "Good evening, Gordon. We're hear to talk about the Phelous Initiative."
Holy SHIT this is GENIUS😭
I'm surprised Bonesteel is with them but I guess Mikey is still too brain dead to join, Leo thinks this Initiative is not the new way and everyone hates Splinter.
@@dnmstarsi and the three turtles are not as memeable so bonesteel is here
What about hideyoshi: Shao kahns deadliest enforcer.
Is there room for Balltard?
Will Goron become another one of Phelous' recurring gag characters? If so then Goron will have truly blessed him.
wooo!
Yeah put him in the closet with Duroc from MK...what a couple!😁
@@drstephenstrange897 sorry I don’t remember WHO that is😅
@@gracekim25 The brother of Goro...and I think he's canon(maybe) but yah it appeared only in MK The Journey Begins and he die...so.😄
I'd watch Goron snap the weasely guy's neck
Ironically enough, I’m sold on Goron. He has an interesting backstory if he can intimidate Doom and a nice array of powers you can update for this day and age.
He certainly seems to have an interesting backstory but "We will never know."
@@phelous what did you think the film star crash and the star wars sequel trilogy am wondering i thought the entire sequel trilogy was trashfire needs to be deleted and rebooted as for star crash its far better than the entire sequel trilogy you make storylines better than those sequel trilogy directors including linkara does as well
@@phelous unless we fill in the gaps😜
Goron was king of the mushrooms, and Dr Doom stole his lands! He has many a tale of battling the Teutonic Knights during the Baltic crusades! And gained his eclectic array of powers upon seizing a number of mystical artifacts in the possession of the Teutons.
Much like poison Ivy he doesn't so much care about humanity as he does his brethren fungi, who raised hi- okay that's enough. XD
And his eye laser powers are very cheap and easy to animate, but that's probably unrelated.
Who would have ever guessed that Doctor Doom having a political career and zealous followers despite his name and schemes would turn out to be completely plausible...
to be fair he took over his country with his lazer hands then revealed he was a better leader so the lavarians have an excuse
I think the thing that's aged the worst about "Batman Returns" is that The Penguin's followers immediately turn on him after hearing him say what he really thinks about them.
Goron truly was the Groppler Zorn of 1981.
Beat me to it by a month
All the ladies want to be with Groppler Zorn, and all the men want to be Groppler Zorn.
I liked when he said "I'm going goron" before punching the meteor that would have ended the world. The ultimate sacrifice.
Goron was the most important Spider-Man character of all times. During the Clone Saga, the one thing the angered fans the most and made them constantly tear out their hair was the lack of an answer to the question everyone was asking: "Hey, Where's Goron?"
Whenever Goron's not in a panel, Spider-Man and everyone else should be asking "Where's Goron?"
GORON: THE GREATEST MARVEL CHARACTER!
"If he's not on panel, have Spiderman ask 'Where's Goron?'"
The reason no one liked Judas Traveler was because he was a poor replacement for Goron.
Goron should be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine
Spider-Man can't beat Goron, not without the Iron Boots!!!
And without learning how to sumo wrestle!
Wabuu, Goron, and Old Man. Phelous finally has his own Three Stooges.
How about a skit with all three doing a typical Three Stooges-esque plot?
@@brianhebert6152 Maybe in the next Dingo Pictures movie.
What about Gentleman?
So excited for Sony to make that Goron film.
"It's Goron time!"
If Goron doesn't get a Thanos-style big reveal in the post-credit scene of _The Sinister Six_ we riot
@@Mario_Angel_Medina He should be in the next Insomniac game, in fact forget Spidey and just make a Goron game. It's what the crowds are screaming for.
The way things are going at Sony, I'm sure that's not even a joke at this point. I mean, El Muerto?
@@mightyfilm Oh come on, you mean you've never heard of El Muerto? The Mexican wrestler antagonist who only appeared in two issues back in 2006 and never reappeared or was even mentioned again??
Sarcasm aside, I agree it's so stupid. At least Venom and Morbius appeared in more than *_TWO ISSUES!!!!_*
@@michaelstrong5383 Considering Venom was always a cash cow of Wolverine levels to the point where the studio just about forced him into Spider-Man 3, there was always an audience. And even if Morbius was well known, especially in his questionable appearance in the 90's cartoon, the fact it bombed and is only remembered by a sarcastic meme means that they doubled the hell down with El Muerto. Goron and Ms. Lion are naturally on the way.
The greatest Spider-Man character is ‘Goron!’
Look for the next amazing Spider-Man character ‘Zora!’
I don't know if that was your intention, but there really IS a Marvel character named Zora. And she is also connected to Dr. Doom.
@@poochyenajones1362
Really?
@@legoking6165 Yeah. She works for Dr. Doom and dresses like a valkyrie.
I've gotta say "The Doctor Prescribes Doom" is a masterpiece of an episode title.
"The reports of Doctor Doom's genius have been greatly exaggerated."
Well. His former classmate and archrival IS Reed Richards, the world's smartest idiot. So I guess it balances out.
Spidey reflecting Goron's eye beams back at him to defeat him could have been done in a million more sensible ways. He could reflect the mind control beam back at him and tell him to stop working for doom, or reflect the exploding beam and destroy the floor under him to trap him. Instead we got Goron's TRUE FORM, which is the same guy except dehydrated i guess.
They also could have made him teaming up with doom make more sense if it was done as DOOM reflecting the mind control beams back at him and then telling him to serve him.
We need some kind of crossover between Goron and Groppler Zorn for the ultimate "only exists in one episode but commands everyone's respect" team-up.
Add Shreeka from TMNT 1987 and you're all set lol
Groppler Goron needs to be a thing!
@@connorbeith3232 Don't forget Dulok!
@@FNGLHR who’s that?
@@gracekim25 Only the most important Shokan in Mortal Kombat ever!
Goron should be the next big character to be put into the MCU, think of how much money he would make them.
It'll make Gormillion dollars!
@@connorbeith3232 🤣 thank you for that
maybe in Spiderverse
sony might have the rights to him. so he might get his own movie. of course while first appearing in a spider-man cartoon he is associated with dr.doom and latveria. so it might be a situation like with fox and marvel with quicksilver and scarlet witch. Sony and marvel may need to share goron.
Who wants to see Spider-Man when they can see Goron and his Amazing Collegues.
I’ll give Marvel some credit, syndicators pushed for Spider-Man to fight a Darth Vader style enemy because Star Wars was hot, and the writers immediately went with Dr. Doom instead of a lame OC.
That Goron... Man, what a legend. He could've been legitimately elected as Master of the World himself, but he's just so humble, y'know?
I hope Goron has a long and fruitful life on this channel. He deserves nothing less!
"Spider-Man and no one" sounds like a show where Peter Parker has constant hallucinations.
Goron: Suddenly exists.
Jeff Bennett: Okaaayyyyy...
It surprises me that Jeff Bennett hasn't yet voiced Doctor Doom.
It's entirely possible that someone would mistake “Spiderman 5000” as referring to a time period considering that there *was* a series of far-future Marvel books that included Spiderman 2099.
I'm surprised that Powerman 5000 didn't sue for copyright
They couldn’t call it Spider-Man unlimited that would come later and feature the only Spider-man costume with a cape.
Funny enough. I thought Spider-Man unlimited had more than two season
The far, FAR future of Spider-Man
And kinda bummed. It was t great. But I enjoyed it
According to the Zelda wiki, “The name Goron may have originated from ゴロゴロ "goro goro," Japanese onomatopoeia for the sound of a rolling rock, or more specifically, a boulder. The name Goron could also be related to the word "gora" (mountain) found in various Slavic languages.”
"Or it might have been a reference to a one time Spider-Man 1981 villain. Actually that is probably it."
Something HAD to have gone wrong right. Surely there must have been some Goron introduction episode in the pipeline that got scrapped and they just forgot to scrap this episode. I can't think of any other explanation as to how Goron has graced us with his presence.
It's possible but... "we will never know".
@@phelous How many years does it take to get a movie for Goron? "The world may never know." czcams.com/video/E8NniKYiy2I/video.html
And in a alternate universe, people know this unknown backstory 😮
8:18 To be fair, Dr. Doom used a lot of robot decoys of himself when fighting the Fantastic Four.
Some how because you cover Goron is starts to become a cult classic character and the fans weave an elaborate backstory and create new stories of him. I have to admit that would be really cool for it to happen.
Your wish is my command😎
It happened to Snowflame, wouldn't hurt.
Fingers crossed for Goron's MCU debut.
It’ll become the GCU.
He'll be the main villain for the next Spidey movie: Spider-Man: Home Renovation.
Hilariously, there is a Zora in the comics connected with Dr. Doom (Zora Vukovic, a loyal follower of his who also goes by the name 'Victorious'), so clearly the MCU Dr. Doom should work with both Goron and Zora.
Zora goes by Victorious, huh? I wonder if they attend Hollywood Arts with a quirky best friend named Cat.
@@connorbeith3232 🤣
Wonder when there will be a Rito and Gerudo be in there.
This episode really makes me question how many "Doctor" villains are just making that title up in an attempt to command respect.
Based on this episode, even Dr. Robotnik runs circles around Doom in terms of thinking plans through. (At least some of the time...)
Dr Evil is beating Doom at this point
I actually would like to see Phelous do more videos on the older Spider-Man cartoons. The '67 and '81 Spider-Man cartoons probably have more bizarre plots than the others.
I assume because back then, basically everyone was off their rockers by sniffing copious amounts of drugs or something?
Because honestly, that's the only way I can explain these old cartoons and comics mostly having stories and characters that basically go nowhere, aside guess them stupid guiderules that basically forbid anything interesting
@@nobodyinparticular9640 A combination of commercial guidelines, small budgets, and a sincere belief in the idiocy of children.
I watch the extended edition of Spider-Man no way home the other day. I was so happy when they added in the scene where all three Spider-Man, green goblin, electro, Dr octopus, the lizard, sandman, Tom Hardy venom, Dr Michael morbius, all the other villains, and Doctor Strange teamed up to fight Goron and all died. Truly the greatest scene in Spider-Man history.
Goron is the most remembered and beloved character since Groppler Zorn
9:10 Dr. Doom tried to befriend Robin, but the lion cub said: "I think we should be enemies."
And then Robin claws at doom
Can Spiderman overcome Goron and his plan to steal rare gemstones from across all of New York to eat as a snack
While spiders are not insects, and mushrooms are not plants, it's also impossible not to die with what spiderman pulls there with his "freeze everything except me"-gambit, so you get a nice trifecta of stupid.
And Mushrooms don't eat insects
I wonder if there was just a cancelled episode where Goron was introduced cause this is such a weird episode
Mmmm yeah it feels like there’s an episode missing
Goron confirmed for Phase 5 of the MCU.
He is behind the whole multi verse
*cue insane laughter*
Whenever Goron's not on screen,
all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Goron?". :Note Goron died on the way back to his home planet.
I'm so sad Ernest Borgnine passed away because he's my dream-actor for Goron in the MCU.
This guy is just ridiculously memorable for all the wrong reasons! The permanebt pokerface, the belly, the fat neck, the bald head and the stupid eye powers create an animated equivalent of a bum arriving at a cosplay party while everyone being convinced that he plays some character they don't know.
Considering that Dr. Doom is a magician as well as a scientist slash ruling monarchy of Latveria, I'd imagine Goron was a mage as well. Goron studied eye magic as oppose to Victor Von Doom who was a general study. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Goron would have been The Sorcerer Supreme, but he said "nah I'm Good".
@@Rendo86 Goron is just that kind of guy. He never takes the limelight. He just wants to be a big goof who shoots magic eyebeams.
Dr strange did help dr doom save dr doom's mom's soul from hell. goron is not dr doom's magical best friend.
Goron! The new greatest spiderman character!
The title "ABCs of Doom" just makes me think of a Marvel-themed version of the movie ABCs of Death. Y'know, 26 segments where people get killed in some distinctly Marvellian way: "A is for Adamantium," "B is for Brood," "C is for Cyttorak," "S is for Symbiote," "T is for Terrigen"... stuff like that.
After this, Goron would become the most popular Spider-man character. He became so important that he was retconned into Spider-man's origin and history. Every major even was later detailed on how Goron was a part of it, if not the mastermind. This episode pulled in so many numbers that they would later say the raisin version was in fact a clone that Goron himself made. Goron Halloween costumes were hard to get the first year of this episode, but next year it was Goron central. Sam Raimi wanted Goron in the first movie, but he deemed that no actor could do the role justice. The only character who ever challenged Goron for popularity was Groppler Zorn, which is why the 10 part cross over comic Zorn vs Goron was made. People still argue the outcome of the comics, but are also just happy they get to see their two favorite characters in the same book.
This reminds me for all the world of a Far Side wherein a scientist escapes a sinking cruise liner only to end up on a small island where a duck proclaims the doctor to be his old nemesis - only this time, the advantage belongs to the duck! Even Larson admitted he had no idea what kind of sordid history the two really had together. This seems to take 'Remember The New Guy' to levels beyond MUI SSJ4.
I like to ask a question, What does Goron need with a starship?
POTATOES 😜
@@gracekim25 Id like to think that is the answer to the question above
@@kronemerj yes
We need to have our Goron, Waabu, Margoyle, and Old Man multiverse of madness XD
I like that Doom has a Potemkin village. Given the timing of the show that's likely a direct reference to the USSR.
I see what happened to Goron after he got hit by his own eye-beams: He became one of those dried up Monks from BotW and snuck himself into one of them shrines, waiting for someone to puzzle it
It probably had something to do with eyes and light rays too :V
Nah, it's one of those shrines where the challenge is getting there in the first place. But the shrine is still here on Earth, so Link never found it.
Goron looks like Telly Savalas and Ernest Borgnine got fused in a teleporter accident that also gave him eye powers. In fact that's my new headcanon for his origin.
And now I can’t unsee it
I know some of spider-man’s villains and I knew Dr. Doom from the fantastic four, but Goron is the one character I never knew he existed nor was never mentioned in any spider-man comics, animated series and movies. And I can honestly see why.
I didn't get the idea that Goron had ever been a good guy, but he just had some sort of rivalry going on with Dr. Doom
The "Okay, so you take..." at the very start had me giggling like an idiot :)
I'm ready to rewatch all three Mac and Me reviews now, thanks, Beardy Mc Phelous :3
Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends is one of my favorite things about Disney +. It's GREAT to see Phelous going over some of these episodes, especially with them so fresh in my mind!!
He always has unique and entertaining perspectives to add,
There are many moments in a humans life, like being born, first pet, first love, hell even first christmas, but no one forgets their first Goron... Truly a magic time for all the boys and girls.
Ah yes. One of the most important characters ever, Goron.
Joining the list alongside
Art Lean, Duroc, Old Man, Wabuu, Siro, and now Goron
I'm so happy you're watching these old Spider-Man cartoons... or Rocket Robin Hood cartoons _converted into_ Spider-Man cartoons, like what we learned about last time. lol. This is madness and I'm all for it 😁
There was a terrible episode of the original He-Man show where the villains were two regular looking people who walked into Snake Mountain and immediately defeated Skeletor, and this Goron character from the Spider-Man with No Friends Show is giving me major flashbacks to that incident.
To be fair, the villains weren't very smart in the animated series at the time. Magneto was defeated by a wooden gun and Red Skull wanted to take over the world with WWII weaponry.
“The food is worthless after two days” um… SO?! You could still totally use that!!!
Old Man said "Its completely USELESS!"
It got wet
To be honest, I always seemed to remember Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends more than the other one.
Most people seem to, I kinda liked Spider-Man and No Friends a little better.
I love it when Spidey is just lurking around like an actual spider
I hope Goron becomes the next big bad of the MCU, he really needs more appreciation
Goron: Doom's greatest nemesis since KISS
Dr Doom using Doom as a password in kind of genius in a reverse psychology kind of way. Like, no one's gonna try it, because they all assume he's not that stupid, which is why it's a perfect password, actually.
Except for the part where it's the 1st thing guessed because he was that stupid and Spider-Man knew he was that stupid.
@@phelous well, yes except for that part. Other than that it worked perfectly!
🤣 IRONY at it’s finest
_"When Goron is not on screen all the other characters should be asking 'Where is Goron?'"_
- the episode's writer, probably
giving how megalomaniac Dr. Doom is in the comics, I wonder how he would react upon learning about this universe version
9:05 Well, he kinda did. He does have and army of Doombots that all look, act and think like him. Mostly so the writes can easily kill Doom without killing him.
Thank you, dear Phelous, for bringing the magic of Goron into our lives. Surely he needs his own standalone blockbuster movie to properly flesh out the MCU!
Seriously, this was such a great video, Phelous! Thank you so much for making me laugh. Those old hokey cartoons are comedic gold mines! And your humor just makes it all so much more hilarious. Keep on being amazing! 🖤
14:36
Spider-Old Man:
Looks like I was expected eeeeeEEEEEE
*swings in*
It's hard too think of television before the infamous episode of television where Goran and Gropler Zorn where fused into one being , and Gropran Zorn guest starred in every episode of television till this day!
So, is Goron getting his own series in Phase 7 of the MCU? I will be sorely disappointed if he doesn't. Get on it, Kevin Feige!
And maybe throw in Dr. Doom in the post credits to add more hype.
Seems more a Sony Spiderverse character, frankly…
I heard Goron's in the extended cut of No Way Home and his scenes were removed because he was too popular and distracted from the story.
As a "JJ", I assure everyone that I was not there at the time.
As for Goron, he looks and sounds like some random character that was made for a bad Saturday morning cartoon... Oh, wait!
Well Linkara turned Snowflame into a thing, and years later he got to come back to comics. Maybe we can do the same for Goron!
Goron fan comic! Let's go!
Phelous, I know you're hiding the Goron Marvel Comic Series and the Goron trader cards. You did this. You.
Ok, I know Poison Ivy is DC, Bushroot is Disney and Goron is Marvel, but imagine if all three teamed up?
I think I'd pay to see that.
Spider-man 2099 is the cool future Spidey we need, but Spider-man 5000 is the doofy one we deserve.
No matter how many times Phelous sarcastically praises Goron, I never got tired of it. Hilarious
25 years of Zelda games have made it impossible for me to think of anything other than the boulder boys
Phelous gives us the most important Spiderman character we've never heard of, and Brandon Tenold gives us the worst animated movie we've never seen on the same day?!
Our lucky day!
Now I kind of want Goron to appear in the next spider verse film just so we can get some more context on who he is
And then next, Goron moved to the Zelda universe, and created a race of boulder people named after himself.
This just in: Michael Chiklis in talks to play Goron in the MCU
I remember watching Amazing Friends all the time on Jetix.
I'm not surprised they didn't play its sister series alongside it
The Dr. Doom & U.N. relationship is even on these days active, in Avengers assemble theres one episode when Dr. Doom goes to the U.N.
Goron seems to be a more criminal leaning Ancient one, just a older sorcerer that probably took less energy to keep himself younger than the mcu counterpart.
He probably taught doom magic and thought he was getting out of hand due to using magic to see his mother again (which was a major comic plot point).
But Goron was somewhat selfish himself and wanted to reserve some global power for himself.
So he teams up with doom, both get foiled by Spider-Man and Goron gets returned to his older form and gets sent to the Raft (or whatever the marvel universe had for a super villain prison in the 80s).
The only main issue is well...... Yeah what did happen to him afterwards?? Did doctor strange transport Goron to a sorcerer prison? Did he just remain a unusually old man in a super max prison for forever??
Goron a man whose eyes change colors based on what power he's using at the time, is a perfectly acceptable villain powerset tbh.
I think they should give Goron more of Backstory that way we could learn more about why he wants to get back at doom, I'm sure people would love that.
I thought the twist was gonna be that either Goron toke over Doom´s plan to take over the world so Doom and Spider-man had to team up to stop him. Or Doom´s plan dose´t work and Goron winks and says. "Haha I know I could fool you if I said I was your allay."
Goron, huh? When I first saw images of him in a Spiderman episode I thought it was the Kingpin.
I remember when goron said “its goron time” and goroned all over those guys
Awesome! I'm loving these videos on the old Spiderman series. Hope to see more of that and rocket Robin Hood.
I've seen enough of Linkara's episodes to know Dr Doom was never dignified.
🤣 *me who is trying to catch up on Linkara lore* I’ll take your word for it
@@gracekim25 Defeated by Officemax
@@Tareltonlives is that a comic character?