When Spider-Man Stole a Plot From Spider-Man?

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2023
  • The Spider-Man 1981 series did the episode Web of Nephillia about a scientist turning into a spider creature then Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends had Attack of The Arachnoid which did the exact same thing!
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  • @andreasnickmann370
    @andreasnickmann370 Před rokem +187

    He was an average man-spider-creature, but a brilliant scientist

  • @TheRoflcer
    @TheRoflcer Před rokem +249

    I'll bet even Charles Cameo had the decency to give blood.

    • @tfordham13
      @tfordham13 Před rokem +1

      Why is this so old

    • @TheRoflcer
      @TheRoflcer Před rokem +5

      @@tfordham13 You mean my comment? I'm a Patreon supporter, we get early access to his videos.

    • @tfordham13
      @tfordham13 Před rokem +1

      @@TheRoflcer ok

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před měsícem

      @@TheRoflcer I'll bet Charles Cameo is a patreon supporter.

  • @rainydayman2k
    @rainydayman2k Před rokem +36

    "If I had a nickel for every time I fought a self-mutated man-spider thing... well, I'd have two nickels, but it's weird that it's happened twice!"

  • @GarthTheDestroyer
    @GarthTheDestroyer Před rokem +81

    Scorpion: "Screw the honor system, I want revenge on Spider-man!"
    Juggernaut: "Hey, you're ruining it for the rest of us!"

  • @Wnick1996
    @Wnick1996 Před rokem +112

    Given that some spiders are cannibals in real life, the fact that Spiderman does this to his plots isn't surprising

    • @limalepakko6074
      @limalepakko6074 Před rokem +3

      Don’t the females often eat the males after mating

    • @tfordham13
      @tfordham13 Před rokem +5

      ​@@limalepakko6074 only if there's no. Food

    • @michaelprost6130
      @michaelprost6130 Před rokem +4

      i thought most spiders were cannibals

    • @tfordham13
      @tfordham13 Před rokem +6

      @@michaelprost6130 nope mainly under extreme circumstances

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 Před rokem

      ​@@tfordham13Humans be like

  • @tessalyyvuo1667
    @tessalyyvuo1667 Před rokem +111

    As an animal nerd I'm very impressed they used a real species of spider in the show.

    • @johnhutchinson7343
      @johnhutchinson7343 Před rokem +9

      Especially way back when they couldn't just Google it. Had to get a Marvel intern to go to the library and get some books about spiders.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před měsícem +1

      ​@@johnhutchinson7343 Good ol' Marvel cares about their fans and we care about accuracy.

  • @Shadowluigi-pj9nq
    @Shadowluigi-pj9nq Před rokem +25

    I knew that Fred was secretly Ice-man! He disappeared from episodes of Scooby Doo for too long for it to be a coincidence

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před měsícem

      I can believe it. Especially given how Shaggy has Dragon Ball powers so I can see Fred being a mutant given the appearance and vocal cords.

  • @polterboo3515
    @polterboo3515 Před rokem +33

    The real crime of the friends one is that Jamison wasnt all over the fact Spiderman got arrested
    The banter potential of Jamison going to the holding cell and finally getting to grill Spiderman and maybe gloat a little about writing that article in the paper would have been bonus points for the friends version

  • @kingvulturo
    @kingvulturo Před rokem +69

    So Penny is obsessed with Spider-Man, can't stop thinking about Spider-Man, loves Spider-Man's powers so she....turns some other guy into a potential Spider-Man? Why didn't they go with the classic woman becomes a literal Black Widow for Spider-Man?

    • @TonySpike
      @TonySpike Před rokem +7

      Gee i dunno ...maybe its got something to do with Black Widow being litterally another character with a different back story

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před rokem +12

      "We will never know..."

    • @limalepakko6074
      @limalepakko6074 Před rokem +10

      Why is there a Marvel character named Black Widow but she’s not Spider-Man’s enemy? That’s such a waste

    • @igm4326
      @igm4326 Před rokem +6

      Probably because she wasn't a scientist and most likely didn't want to risk her own life on the matter. Radiation and whatnot.

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před rokem +6

      Because Penny is your typical Shewolf, manipulating a man she knows cares about her into doing her bidding... albeit in a really over the top zany way.

  • @SCWRMComms
    @SCWRMComms Před rokem +91

    The mask having an air filter is actually a relatively common thing in a lot of the animated series at least. It's brought up constantly because Spidey gets gassed a lot in these.
    -Teo

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 Před rokem +1

      Damn, guess all the spiderman gets farted in by Elsa videos are wrong then.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před rokem +36

    Apparently Spider-Man is living two different lives in the same timeline and both lifestyles are colliding with each other.

  • @CalciumChief
    @CalciumChief Před rokem +100

    3:18 Don't worry about that. Dr. Doom comes with a built-in excuse for any time he dies - it was a Doombot. Yeah, he has highly-advanced robots that look like him and are meant to act and think like they're him.

    • @limalepakko6074
      @limalepakko6074 Před rokem +14

      I read that as ”think they’re him” and that sounded like an existential nightmare

    • @r4z0rv1n3
      @r4z0rv1n3 Před rokem +20

      @@limalepakko6074 they actually do think they are him... that's been a plot point several times with doombots... Their AI is complex enough that they have even fooled some telepaths...

    • @CalciumChief
      @CalciumChief Před rokem +15

      @@limalepakko6074 Cause they do, that's why they're good at fooling others. They only become standard mindless drones in presence of other Doombots or Doom himself.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Před rokem +27

      I do love how that's a VERY convenient excuse for whenever Doom appears in a bad story or acts like an idiot
      It was just a malfunctioning Doombot, guys, the real Doom would NEVER stoop to such lows!

    • @r4z0rv1n3
      @r4z0rv1n3 Před rokem +19

      @@DarkOverlord96 It's kind of an amazingly brilliant narrative get out of jail free card honestly..

  • @LaNoLaCola
    @LaNoLaCola Před rokem +70

    To quote the 90s spider-man, this is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!

  • @angrynoodletwentyfive6463

    I have 2 guesses for why Goron only appeared in one episode as well as the intro but was treated like a character every one was supposed to know... Either there were multiple episodes planned with him and all but one were scrapped or the creators did so on purpose in order to fuck with the audience and giggle at the thought of everyone wondering who the fuck goron is and if they had missed an episode. That would honestly be a pretty funny troll move.

    • @lynngreen7978
      @lynngreen7978 Před rokem +7

      Much like a Riddler-adjacent villain appeared in the credits for the Filmation Batman, but since Riddler was in the Legion of Doom on Super Friends, they couldn't actually use him in the show. (But no other Batman villains could be in the LoD).

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +5

      ​@@lynngreen7978 WIll the Bat-Embargo never end?!

    • @colinalford2153
      @colinalford2153 Před rokem +4

      Reminds me of the Duocons in the transformers season 4 opening theme. They put flywheels in the intro but he never appeared in any of rebirth.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +3

      ​@@colinalford2153 Well, there they were just grabbing random animated footage from the toy commercials...

    • @matane2465
      @matane2465 Před rokem +2

      There's a number of Villains in the X-Men opening that never appeared in the show.

  • @ArendAlphaEagle
    @ArendAlphaEagle Před rokem +25

    Given that Dr Shaw still referred to the spider as the Neplilia spider despite the shot spelling the "Nephila" name correctly, and the fact that the same shot is basically the _only_ instance the spider was called "Nephila" instead of "Nephilia", makes me think the writer and rest of the staff genuinely believed that the species was in fact called "Nephilia" with the two Is, and the one instance of them actually spelling it correctly was a typo.
    So yeah, I believe they mistakenly thought the spider was named "Nephilia" and has it wrong the entire time, except for that one instance they spelled it correctly _by accident._ The "even a broken clock is right twice a day" equivalent of an animation error.

    • @normalgraham
      @normalgraham Před 4 měsíci

      Plot twist: they meant to name her "Necrophilia" and never got it right once

  • @peterang78
    @peterang78 Před rokem +77

    Gotta be honest, the first one is both interesting, dark, and kinda sad. Bradley literally lost everything both his humanity and someone he closely in love with.
    The fact he doesn't care wether the serum will kill him is depressing and tragic. It's like something out of Batman: The Animated Series.
    Also, Penny voice is reminding me of the Baroness from G.I. Joe, which I won't be surprise if they share the same voice actor.

    • @christianlewis9703
      @christianlewis9703 Před rokem +4

      They do sound very close. I wouldn't be surprised either if it is Baroness' voice actress...

    • @sprngfldpop1
      @sprngfldpop1 Před rokem +9

      Yeah that is definitely Morgan "The Baroness" Lofting's voice. She used the same voice in the 1st G.I. Joe episode where she disguised herself as a major to get close to the MASS Device, as well as several other episodes. In this Spider-Man series she also voiced Black Cat.

    • @Bunny23723
      @Bunny23723 Před rokem +8

      I honestly feel bad for that Bradley character in the first Spiderman Cartoon. :( He didn't deserve to be used like that wretched Penny.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater Před rokem +35

    Spider-Man, Spider-Man
    Fishes plots from the garbage can,
    Recycles stories to save some cash,
    How else can writers afford their stash?
    Hey, look! The city is lit up, maaaaaaaaaaan.

  • @fluffyman85
    @fluffyman85 Před rokem +38

    "Hey... didn't somebody want my autograph?" That one actually got me. 😂
    It seemed common in some cartoons for the female characters to have more defined butts than the male ones.
    Also would not be the last time Spider-Man would confront someone who a human upper body and a spider lower body. *looks over to Turn off the Dark*

    • @limalepakko6074
      @limalepakko6074 Před rokem +3

      I think women generally have more refined butts than men in real life

    • @maximillian1109
      @maximillian1109 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@limalepakko6074 Not really? Like, in general I mean.

  • @DarkOverlord96
    @DarkOverlord96 Před rokem +52

    I know April is who most people would think of after seeing Monica but to me the darker shade of brown on her hair reminds me more of that one design Fujiko Mine had in Hayao Miyazaki's take on Lupin III, which *WAS* the inspiration behind April's look in the '87 cartoon.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu Před rokem +7

      Which certainly recontextualizes things a bit.
      I always did love Lupin the third.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +5

      April's look in the cartoon was based on how she appeared in her first appearance in the original Mirage TMNT comics. She was wearing a jumpsuit because she was a lab assistant for evil scientist Baxter Stockman. (A jumpsuit makes a lot more sense for a lab assistant than a TV news reporter.) Unlike the lab assistant in the Spider-Man cartoon (whichever one it was where the woman wasn't the primary villain), April refused to go along with her boss's plan when she found out about it, so Baxter tried to kill her with her Mouser robots. While fleeing the Mousers through sewers she meets the Turtles. (This was also later adapted in the 2003 cartoon.)
      I don't doubt one of the people who worked on the cartoon made that claim, though, as there was some lawsuit between the company making the cartoon and Eastman & Laird where the cartoon people claimed they'd created various things that they really didn't, such as putting April in a jumpsuit. I don't remember all the details but Peter Laird wrote about it on his blog a few years ago.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +5

      Billiam had me believing that 1987 April was just a palette swap of Daphne in The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, because everything has to lead back to Scooby-Doo!

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Před rokem +2

      @@KasumiKenshirou I was talking about her color scheme, though.

  • @CapnJigglypuff
    @CapnJigglypuff Před rokem +16

    Phelan: "Firestar, you saw Zoltan in the Spider-Man outfit and you just spent the last while fighting him as a spider creature! You can't possibly be that thick!"
    Firestar: 20:46

  • @hypno-scream5652
    @hypno-scream5652 Před rokem +202

    After years of watching Linkara, I can confirm that superheroine outfits being uncomfortably tight like Firestar’s is comic-accurate.

    • @Ashurman666
      @Ashurman666 Před rokem +17

      Especially when Rob Liefeld is involved

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Před rokem +30

      And that's why we love 'em. 🍑

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz Před rokem +12

      I mean, I feel like that's common knowledge.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Před rokem +8

      @@Ashurman666 The difference is that a lot of other artists actually have appealing artstyles to make it look sexy.

    • @Ashurman666
      @Ashurman666 Před rokem +10

      @@DarkOverlord96 Eh, most of them just make the tight costumes look like boob socks. That's not the fault of the artist, more of the costume itself.

  • @MentalLiberation
    @MentalLiberation Před rokem +90

    I find it very interesting that they were doing this well into the 1980s. If you want a prime example of the earliest times they've done something like this, look into the Popeye cartoons of the 1930s, 40s and 50s and you'll see some similarities between certain cartoons as some of them were like shot-for-shot remakes

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan Před rokem +7

      Also Looney Tunes' Porky in Wackyland and Dough for the Do-Do.

    • @TheBohrokLord
      @TheBohrokLord Před rokem +4

      At least back then those shorts were shown in theaters, so it was assumed audiences wouldn't have seen every episode.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +5

      Sure, I know about some Mickey Mouse cartoon remakes, but those made sense because they were done in another decade and showed off a new style. I'm not sure Spider-Man really meant to remake an episode from just a year prior...

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane Před rokem

      See also Bewitched. They would remake episodes with the same jokes, just different Darren. And one time they even repeated the same joke verbatim in two back to back episodes.

  • @RocketJo86
    @RocketJo86 Před rokem +46

    I wonder if this happened because of a brainstorming session in the writer's room, given both worked on the same show for a time. But instead of working the script out together or making clear who would follow the idea, both of them took it home and proposed it to the respective director's without the other knowing (or caring). It would explain how certain beats are almost the same while others are totally off. It's not so much a straight rip-off as it is working from the same pieces of an idea coming to diffrent conclusions.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +11

      Sure, I imagine the other show's writing team dug up this story outline and _thought_ it hadn't been used yet...

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Před rokem +2

      i spot a thunderbolt fantasy profile picture.
      you are a man of culture.

    • @RocketJo86
      @RocketJo86 Před rokem +1

      @@ghoulchan7525 Finally I found a fellow fan!

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Před rokem +2

      @@RocketJo86 there's quite a few if you know where to look.
      but it sure is wild to just stumble upon one XD.

  • @austincameron6461
    @austincameron6461 Před rokem +30

    I think we've found a new possible Dingo Pictures for Phelous. I constantly look forward to these videos and are always a joy.

  • @kingasmodeus0
    @kingasmodeus0 Před rokem +17

    seeing Goron's design I wonder if he was supposed to be Kingpin but they couldn't get the rights but already made the character model so decided to use it anyway?

  • @DeathofInk
    @DeathofInk Před rokem +55

    Girl is un-impressed with a guy for just supposedly being afraid of a little blood? Feel like Peter could do better with his options there.

    • @UJEvans
      @UJEvans Před rokem +16

      That's why no one remembers Betty when they list all of Peter's ex-girlfriends.

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 Před rokem +2

      @@UJEvansExcept people who are fans of her brother, The Crime Master. Betty really got the short end of the stick in terms of becoming a real legacy supporting character despite having such a tragic backstory in the original Stan Lee and Steve Ditko comics. Honestly if Ned Leads, her recently un-unalived husband, hadn’t come back in Nick Spencer’s recent run and Zeb Well’s current run, I don’t know if she’d even have any major appearances in the modern day comics.

  • @metallicakixtotalass
    @metallicakixtotalass Před rokem +23

    ...didn't Batman also have this exact same setup for "Man-Bat", a scientist who merged himself with a bat?

    • @reptile1687
      @reptile1687 Před rokem +1

      oh yeah you're right

    • @Goleon
      @Goleon Před rokem +4

      But that’s also based off a comic story so getting copies of it in other media actually makes sense.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 Před rokem +2

      Except inasmuch as Batman has a superpower it's his mind and has nothing to do with bats. Pretty sure Man-Bat didn't synthesize 'dead parents in an alley,' either.

    • @reptile1687
      @reptile1687 Před rokem

      @@boobah5643 yeah but arachnios didnt have his uncle get shot

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 Před rokem +1

      @@reptile1687 Fair point, but Ben Parker's death didn't make Spider-Man. His death made Spider-Man a hero instead of a jerk masked wrestler.
      Thomas and Martha Wayne's deaths made the Batman.

  • @Nasafalkas1
    @Nasafalkas1 Před rokem +37

    So I guess Spiderman was not the hero we needed, but the hero we deserved.

  • @jrcarter9175
    @jrcarter9175 Před rokem +11

    The transformation in the 81 solo series was probably more horrific because it aired in syndication, where they could get away with more.

  • @shawnconway6009
    @shawnconway6009 Před rokem +55

    Of all the plots I hate in comics, the 'x character seems to turn evil and everyone turns on them immediately' is near the top. You live in a comic book world! People end up with evil clones and dopplegangers and people from other dimensions and time traveling alternate timeline versions all the time! You should all be a bit more credulous about this stuff by now!

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 Před rokem +2

      IDK, this isn’t pre-crisis DC in a Superman spin-off comic that has to have a plausible reason why Superman is being a dick/trying to kill his friends on the front cover, Marvel didn’t really dip into the multiverse well in books that weren’t Doctor Strange or The Fantastic Four back in the eighties (oh right, the X-Men dealt with the multiverse in the eighties too, but aside from DOFP, that all usually happened in New Mutants (for Limbo) and Excalibur, but not Uncanny save for the terrible potential future of DOFP, which was originally only in just *two issues* ) as much as they do now.
      Maybe once in a while Spidey or someone else would tussle with Iron Man 2020, but back then he wasn’t even considered an “alternate” or potential future villain, since the year 2020 was forty-ish years away.

    • @shawnconway6009
      @shawnconway6009 Před rokem +6

      @@Popcultureguy3000 Thing is, you don't need a multiverse story to have this issue! Again, pre-crisis DC and pre-modern Marvel did this plotline all the time! Alternate timelines, evil plots by demons, copycats, evil twins; this storyline has happened in comics all the way back to the golden age, when 'oh look this character has been replaced by a nazi to undermine the war effort' was a plotline! But that's really why I hate it.
      Because rather than have everyone go 'oh, we know what's going on but we're going to humor them to see what's up' they just immediately assume someone they know has done a total 180 personality wise for no reason because the plot says so.
      The one time I think this worked was when the Chameleon tried to replace Spiderman in order to get close to Aunt May for something, and she immediately poisoned him because she knew he wasn't Peter. And you get a truly great scene of her knitting in her chair while he's writhing on the ground from the poison she put in her cookies, gloating to him. That's how you should handle this kind of plot!

    • @ZC-Infinity
      @ZC-Infinity Před rokem +3

      Well, technically, this is something that happens in real life all the time. People will turn on a celebrity at the drop of a hat. Just look at what's going on with Dwayne Johnson right now. Whether he's innocent or not, he'll forever be labeled a villain.

    • @shawnconway6009
      @shawnconway6009 Před rokem +3

      @@ZC-Infinity I mean, it's one thing for the public to turn on a figure, and another for one's friends and family to do so. The public in comics is well used to heroes and villains switching places, to say nothing of the long standing hostility to Spiderman in the daily bugle. But that's an entirely different thing from his roommates who literally fight for their lives next to him going 'man, you're a monster suddenly and I have zero doubts that there's anything strange going on'

    • @ZC-Infinity
      @ZC-Infinity Před rokem

      @@shawnconway6009 Check out the Simpsons episode Homer Badman sometime.

  • @BloodrealmX
    @BloodrealmX Před rokem +5

    You know, Peter could have just made up the excuse that his doctor told him he wasn't eligible to donate blood.

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 Před rokem +11

    🎶spider-theft, spider-theft!🎵😂

  • @weirdkitty07
    @weirdkitty07 Před rokem +16

    Jamison is evil in this. He can't force his employees to donate blood.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +7

      He was also partially responsible for creating Scorpion, at least in the 1990s cartoon.

    • @michaelpytel3280
      @michaelpytel3280 Před rokem +3

      @@KasumiKenshirou And in the 60's too.

  • @GeneralKenobi75
    @GeneralKenobi75 Před rokem +13

    Given how many super-villains they must arrest, it's not too surprising the police would have cuffs made out of adamantium. Oh I'm sorry, "admantium".

    • @Armaldo468
      @Armaldo468 Před rokem

      I’m half surprised they didn’t butcher the word even more. Generally if people screw up a word like that, they make it damn near unrecognizable. We’re lucky we didn’t get “admantum” or something equally stupid. Y’know, just drop another whole syllable like it’s not even there. Ugh. C’mon, man. I don’t expect everybody in production to be a super comic book nerd or anything, but that’s just embarrassing from a basic reading and writing standpoint. I’d be curious to know whether the writer botched it or the voice actor misread it. Could easily be either. If it’s the voice actor, it’s more forgivable because they really don’t have to know anything about what they’re saying, though of course it’d help; it’s always beneficial to know what you’re working with. If it’s a writing error, however, it’s substantially worse because you *really* should know what the hell you’re working with if you’re writing a script for materials someone else created. (Someone desperately needs to drum this lesson into Hollywood’s and Disney’s collective stupid heads-preferably with a pile driver, and I don’t mean the wrestling move.)

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem

      Maybe this weird pronunciation is an "aluminum" / "aluminium" type of thing.

    • @GeneralKenobi75
      @GeneralKenobi75 Před rokem +1

      @@Armaldo468 I agree.

  • @WillKeaton
    @WillKeaton Před rokem +15

    Briefly touching on the point about how Spidey is seen by the public. I personally think Spidey works best when you have people on both sides of the argument. People who think he's a menace, like JJ, and people who think he's doing good. I recall in that old 60s cartoon, JJ was basically the only one who didn't care for Spidey, and though there were times when the police were tricked into thinking Spidey was bad, Spidey always managed to clear his name and everyone went back to loving him by the end of the episode.

  • @BriGuyIL1980
    @BriGuyIL1980 Před rokem +21

    Now I want Phelous to review that episode of the X-Men animated series where Jubilee is stuck in a cave with a bunch of kids and tells them a fairy tale to keep their minds off the fact that water is about to come smashing in and drown them all.

    • @shoresean1237
      @shoresean1237 Před rokem +1

      @ladydiskette It was a remake/adaptation of a Kitty Pryde story not long after she joined, circa the 150's of Uncanny V1.

  • @davidhouston6475
    @davidhouston6475 Před rokem +12

    I noticed that Incredible Hulk poster on the wall. So I guess in this universe David Banner has his own merch to sell.

    • @reptile1687
      @reptile1687 Před rokem +1

      david? i thought his name was bruce

    • @Armaldo468
      @Armaldo468 Před rokem +2

      @@reptile1687 Correct. The Hulk we all know best is Bruce Banner. To my knowledge, the only time he was called David Banner was during the old live action Hulk TV show when he was played by Lou Ferrigno. Apparently this name change was because Bruce was deemed too sissy-sounding. (At least, according to an old issue of Toyfare magazine, which was where I learned that. I don’t doubt it; I’ve never known Toyfare to mislead, and this is more than stupid enough to be a TV studio decision, especially in the 70’s.) Bruce Banner was technically already The Hulk’s real identity, but of course television has to screw with things.🙄 Any other David Banner of note is generally either Bruce’s father (who is sometimes also the villain Absorbing Man, like in the 2003 Hulk movie-though he was never called Absorbing Man in that) or an irl old-school rapper.

    • @FrenchPaul1988
      @FrenchPaul1988 Před rokem +2

      @@Armaldo468 wasn't David Banner's second name at a point too ?

    • @Armaldo468
      @Armaldo468 Před rokem

      @@FrenchPaul1988 As in his middle name? That I have no idea about, to be perfectly honest.😅 That’s new to me, but I’m not saying it’s untrue. I’m only going off memory for all this. I have a very strong memory for most things, but if I didn’t know something in the first place, I can’t confirm or deny it. I know a lot of random comic trivia, but I don’t quite have encyclopedic knowledge. And despite having loved The Hulk since I was a kid, I’m a bit more knowledgeable about the X-Men, though I still don’t know nearly everything. (Funny enough, while I probably know some of these things better than a lot of the toadstools who make movies and shows about them these days, I haven’t actually gone out of my way to research any of it in an extremely long time. Like, in almost 20 of my nearly 30 years. My comic knowledge is largely stuff I’ve gleaned from a wide range of things throughout my life. A few comic books here, a few books about comic books there, a bunch of video games featuring lots of trivia, some magazines like the ToyFare magazine I mentioned before, and a few other sources. I’ll only barely include some movies because superhero movies are typically the weakest source of information.)

    • @davidhouston6475
      @davidhouston6475 Před rokem +3

      @@reptile1687 he was David Banner on the credible Hulk TV show when Lou Ferrigno played the Incredible Hulk.

  • @jankarieben1071
    @jankarieben1071 Před rokem +6

    I came for the sarcasm, I stayed for the long running gags! 😂

  • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051

    Amazing Friends is definitely one of the more underrated animated iterations of Spider-Man

  • @ottobaron6392
    @ottobaron6392 Před rokem +4

    20:31 That it's daylight when Spiderman and Scorpion escape through the hole, and then immediately it's night, gives this cartoon a timeless quality.

  • @spraragen88
    @spraragen88 Před rokem +8

    Aunt May must look at the electric bill and go crazy

  • @scottylewis8124
    @scottylewis8124 Před rokem +11

    Forget Trial of The Incredible Hulk, We'd rather watch The Trial of Spider-Man.

  • @URFTBOUND4LIFE
    @URFTBOUND4LIFE Před rokem +14

    The Secret of Mulan was nothing but a check to Christie Marx. You cannot tell me otherwise.
    She should have taken her name off that thing...

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah although the same can be said for Len Wain and Marv Wolfman when it came to their contributions to Street Fighter the Animated Series.

  • @Alucard-A-La-Carte
    @Alucard-A-La-Carte Před rokem +5

    HOLY CRAP, that "what the HELL are you doing??" with the petshop owner nearly killed me!
    Not gonna lie, I expected a clip of the Turtles looking for "mutagon" on Planet Turtletron after that comment, that sounds EXACTLY like the kind of silly episode the '89 show would have had.

  • @mrdoctorgilmore
    @mrdoctorgilmore Před rokem +7

    You know I have a feeling it wasn't the Z99 Gas at all.

  • @blazerocker1734
    @blazerocker1734 Před rokem +4

    The solo series was meant for syndication while Amazing Friends was for network broadcast, specifically NBC.
    I've also heard from a different source that the two don't take place in the same universe. Not being in the same universe would definitely explain why incidents in one are never mentioned specifically in the other. - I guess you can just decide for yourself and believe whatever you want.

    • @Supertron1
      @Supertron1 Před rokem +2

      The fact that the two shows were developed around the same time for different markets is the biggest indicator that they probably weren't supposed to take place in the same universe. But given the loose continuity and the serialized nature that cartoons had in the 80's, it's not that hard to retroactively fit them together if you want to.
      In my opinion, minor inconsistencies and not mentioning previous events don't really mean much. Because look at how Amazing Friends completely changed the character Videoman in his third appearance and had the Spider-Friends act like they had never seen him before. I don't think maintaining continuity mattered that much.

  • @sidearmsalpha
    @sidearmsalpha Před rokem +10

    I swear, Phelan...you're one of those CZcamsrs that never fails to have me in stitches with the sound of your voice and facial expressions alone. Thanks, man.

  • @starsbookreviews
    @starsbookreviews Před rokem +9

    So a "yeah you can copy my homework but don't make it to obvious" situation.

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 Před rokem +5

    Two Spider-Man cartoons existing around the same time reminds me of Sonic SatAM & Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog! I guess it makes sense for Spider-Man to have two ongoing cartoon series given there have been times where their were multiple on-going Spider-Man book titles! Also makes sense given one is a solo series, while the other is a team based!
    I wonder if the people behind Spider-Man & his Amazing Friends mistakenly assumed the story they "borrowed" from the other cartoon, originated from the comics (I mean its an easy mistake to make)!

  • @TheDragonsong12
    @TheDragonsong12 Před rokem +9

    My favorite version of the story was the amazing friends we made along the way.
    ...but probably the first one.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před rokem +9

    Wabuu Goblin: "Time to take out Spider Phelous. I hope he doesn't make any sudden moves."
    Old Man Oct: :::Crash:: "Oops. Excuse me."
    Wabuu Goblin: "I should have had Goron help me."

  • @bryedtan
    @bryedtan Před rokem +20

    The Spider-Man 1981 episode Web of Nephilia seems much more better than the one with the Amazing friends the fact the real villain was the girlfriend who basically manipulated and used the scientist made him more Sympathetic than the Spider-friends version.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před rokem +4

    "ILL STEAL IT, NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW"
    - Spiderman

  • @171QA
    @171QA Před rokem +7

    Something tells me Phelan wouldn't be happy to learn Matt Murdock was in Spider-Man: No Way Home and didn't turn into Dare Devil

    • @scottylewis8124
      @scottylewis8124 Před rokem

      Affleck and Cox?

    • @matane2465
      @matane2465 Před rokem

      @Scotty Lewis just Charlie Cox. And more disappointing he was also in She-Hulk as both Matt Murdock and Daredevil.

    • @scottylewis8124
      @scottylewis8124 Před rokem +1

      @@matane2465 Affleck would have been pissed if he he had to wear the costume again. XD

  • @brianhebert6152
    @brianhebert6152 Před rokem +12

    3:05 They really should have had an Amazing Friends episode where Dr. Doom tried to elect himself leader of the world again, this time with Goron and his own amazing friends!

  • @animewolfOtakuwolf
    @animewolfOtakuwolf Před rokem +8

    I find it funny how "Arachnoid" was also the name of a spider crazy scientist in Mighty Max (the show based on the "boys" version of Polly Pocket), who also turned himself into an anthropomorphic spider on top of making giant ones.

    • @Wright805
      @Wright805 Před rokem

      I remember that episode. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was named after the Spiderman villain.

    • @SaitohYatate
      @SaitohYatate Před rokem

      That show was dark af as well as ahead of its time.

  • @snukastyle
    @snukastyle Před rokem +6

    I remember seeing the Arachnoid version as a kid-it was both fascinating and horrifying at the time. It was also likely my first exposure to Dardevil.

  • @MorganMeryl
    @MorganMeryl Před rokem +5

    I LOVE three Frank Welkers in a row.

  • @RaccoonRevolution
    @RaccoonRevolution Před rokem +7

    Funnily enough, there actually WAS a storyline that hit a lot of similar beats in Amazing Spider-Man 233-236 where scientists attempt to replicate Spidey's powers and accidently turn recurring villain The Tarantula into a monstrous spider-human hybrid. I find that interesting because that story started in *October* of 1982, the same year as Web of Nephilia but several months afterward. I can't confirm that the comic was inspired by the cartoon, but the dates line up.

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 Před rokem +6

    "Firestar, you can't possibly be that thick!"
    Hey, we are looking at the same outfit right?

  • @devonrichardson6150
    @devonrichardson6150 Před rokem +11

    Goron should be added to the mcu

  • @BurningRobotOil
    @BurningRobotOil Před rokem +2

    One time Tail Spin stole a plot originally aired on Duck Tales. Convincing the world that it's Saturday instead of Friday. In Duck Tales, the boys wanted their allowance a day early so they can get a bike. In Tail Spin, Baloo wanted to attend a party, or something. Later, both series characters had to find a way to reverse everyone to thinking it was really Friday.

  • @sprngfldpop1
    @sprngfldpop1 Před rokem +3

    Not the only time these two shows did this! Watch the two Green Goblin episodes from each series. They're pretty much identical beat for beat. They both have more or less the same plot, they both have Spidey get jumped at a party by the Goblin, they both have a cliffhanger scene involving someone opening a door when he's trapped, they both have the Goblin saying "We're over Central Park! There's nothing for you to cling to!"

  • @Magicghost23
    @Magicghost23 Před rokem +12

    Spider-Man is good at recycling plots he should steal from captain planet.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Před rokem +2

    “At good ol’ Marvel, we listen to our fans”
    *Days without One More Day being undone:*

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před měsícem +1

      I guess their real fans don't give a shit about comic book Spidey ever since Marvel refuses to acknowledge Goron and Zoltan Amadeus.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Před měsícem

      @@dnmstarsi damn, tragic

  • @maximusprime3459
    @maximusprime3459 Před rokem +2

    Both the Green Goblin episodes between these two series: Revenge of the Green Goblin(81) and Triumph of the Green Goblin(Amazing Friends) have the exact same plot of the Green Goblin attempting to turn the world into...goblins.

  • @ShanaReviews
    @ShanaReviews Před rokem +6

    It's always interesting to watch your videos and I learn how many writers for TV shows have written for a lot of properties that I watched as a kid.
    We know a lot these days about writers and show runners thanks to the internet, but it feels almost like finding out about writers and voice actors from back in the early days of Television is almost hard to find any info on them online.

  • @brianhebert6152
    @brianhebert6152 Před rokem +7

    Christy Marx also was the developer for the Jem cartoon

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před rokem +3

      I KNEW it! It all connects to Jem!!!

    • @Goleon
      @Goleon Před rokem +3

      No wonder many episodes feel more like a superhero show.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu Před rokem +1

      now that’s truly, truly, truly outrageous.

  • @Equ3strianGam3r
    @Equ3strianGam3r Před rokem +11

    I just thought about this but, what happens to Iceman's ice bridges that he forms to slide around? Do they just stay there in the sky until they melt? That seems like a big mess for a hero to be making.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem +8

      They break off and smash random people's skulls in

    • @iridescent6685
      @iridescent6685 Před rokem +1

      They show firestar melting them sometimes.

  • @oneovertwo1186
    @oneovertwo1186 Před rokem +3

    I remember reading the old Spider-Man comics as a kid & it sometimes features Spider-Man's outfit having such a filter on it, HOWEVER it was something he only wore when he needed to & could prepare it because it was uncomfortable to wear.

  • @spider-423
    @spider-423 Před rokem +6

    I loved the episode in spider-man and his amazing friends, as a kid because this series is better then spideys original show but when you explained it more clearly i enjoy some episodes of the first 1980's series.

  • @evieb6359
    @evieb6359 Před rokem +4

    I don’t know how long it’s been since I saw any of the old series, but my first thought about Iceman was “that sounds like Fred from Scooby Doo.” I’m glad you brought it up, I probably would’ve wondered if I was imagining it.

  • @scottylewis8124
    @scottylewis8124 Před rokem +6

    Spider-Man copies himself... oh god, he's Stuck in The Triangle!

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 Před rokem +2

      "Triangle Triangle Triangle Triangle."

  • @rorylumley4727
    @rorylumley4727 Před rokem +2

    scorpians tail is sometimes attached to his mind and body. so it might not be possible to remove it.

  • @arturmical
    @arturmical Před rokem +5

    I think Penny's got the same voice actress as Baroness from G.I. Joe. Which makes her "DESTROY THEM" sound on brand. Perhaps it was Baroness acting a character? Xd

  • @rodrolliv
    @rodrolliv Před rokem +7

    8:22
    Raiden: god of useless
    Charles Xavier: professor of ignorance

  • @URFTBOUND4LIFE
    @URFTBOUND4LIFE Před rokem +6

    Xam and Goron both need a mini series...

  • @diegobareno5820
    @diegobareno5820 Před rokem +1

    15:04 Only in a Spider-Man cartoon can you get such a blood-curdling scream.

  • @holdingpattern245
    @holdingpattern245 Před rokem +4

    I like the Spider-Friends version better because Spider-Man is already a vigilante operating outside the law, you gain nothing by framing or impersonating him, and also Spider-Man's been framed and cleared his name like a million times, is there seriously no one who remembers? At least the criminal gas gives a possible reason to distrust Spider-Man, this time.

    • @phelous
      @phelous  Před rokem

      The Spider-Friends version IS the one where he was impersonated...

  • @darkron288
    @darkron288 Před rokem +5

    While not even a original concept for these two shows hell their are at least two enemies in recent memories that are just basicaly spider man if he was actually a spider, the simliarities in the plot kinda proves they were copying each others homework

  • @thereisagoodpost7674
    @thereisagoodpost7674 Před rokem +2

    Whenever I'm having a shitty day, your videos make me feel better. Thank you, Phelan.

  • @barry-allenthe-flash8396

    I love - LOVE - that you can say something like,
    "Well Doctor Doom also kinda *blew up* in the '81 show, so that would make him coming back for an adventure with an enchanted old man _difficult"_
    And not have it be made-up, somehow.
    Man, _nothing_ was off the table when it came to old cartoon plots. "What if.... um, the villain went on an adventure with and old guy?" // "LOVE IT! DO IT! We have 82 more episodes to write this weekend to get these things into production by Monday - GO, GO, GO!" 😃

  • @davidspring4003
    @davidspring4003 Před rokem +4

    I'm not an amazing friends expert, but I do remember an episode where Green Goblin is created with gas and wants to use the gas to create more goblins. Maybe that was Z99?

  • @dnmstarsi
    @dnmstarsi Před rokem +2

    I am about to get my Associates Degree in Computer Gaming and Simulation. Perfect time for this video to drop while I wait to graduate!

  • @ShelfShock
    @ShelfShock Před rokem +4

    Spider-Man with no friends is so underrated. I loved every episode, especially the anime aesthetic ones

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +6

    10:15: She looks like the TV reporter April from the cartoon, but she's also an assistant to an evil scientist, like April from the Mirage comics (who wore a blue jumpsuit when the black and white comic was colorized).
    25:51 Wow, that's also really similar to the (pre 9/11) trailer for the first Spider-Man movie. And the crappy (first) reboot movie also had people obsessed with Spider-Man's magic blood. And then one of the crappy Star Trek movies also involved Khan's magic blood. Radioactive Spider-Blood could cure the Osbornes' hereditary disease, whereas Khan's magic blood could cure DEATH. (The fact that they had CURED DEATH was never mentioned in the following movie.)

  • @MrAlman8
    @MrAlman8 Před rokem +1

    This review was entertaining. Potential ideas for a TMNT/Transformers crossover. A cameo of Goron, info about the spiderman meme, & the answers as to how the Spidey & friends can afford their tech at aunt mays place. Awesome fun stuff, Bravo!

  • @bunnyscalamity2503
    @bunnyscalamity2503 Před rokem +2

    Happy to see you uploaded another spiderman. As a little girl I love the amazing friends show but I always called Fire Star fire girl. :P She was my favorite though anyway. Also remember it wasn't the Z-99 gass after all.

  • @Theonetruewonderfly
    @Theonetruewonderfly Před rokem +4

    Wow, memory triggered. "Attack of the Arachnoid" was the only episode of "Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends" to freak 6 year old me out. The Man Spider creature just traumatized me, for some reason.

    • @GdotWdot
      @GdotWdot Před rokem

      In Runescape, among the so called "Experiments", there is a monster that's a giant spider with a human head. For some reason I find it so viscerally hideous I can never bear to look at it for more than 2 seconds. I'm not even arachnophobic but this thing is just sickening.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Před rokem

      What about that guy from Teen Titans who had a giant spider _for_ a head?

    • @Theonetruewonderfly
      @Theonetruewonderfly Před rokem

      @@BagOfMagicFood Yeah, that was creepy. I think the difference (for me) was that I was 26 years old when Teen Titans was on TV, whereas I was 6 years old when "Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends" was on TV. And it strikes me that I'm 46 years old now (and the Teen Titans cartoon is 20 years old this year).

    • @scottylewis8124
      @scottylewis8124 Před rokem

      *shudders in fear* no...

  • @shawnconway6009
    @shawnconway6009 Před rokem +1

    Okay, one detail that I missed during the first viewings was that the villain acknowledges that he CAN'T commit crimes if Spiderman is in jail. Which is remarkably cognizant of the writers.

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku Před rokem +2

    If Dr. Doom blew up, then he was a Doombot.

  • @Dewani90
    @Dewani90 Před rokem +1

    My favourite part is that the first Arachnoid didn't sound like auto-tune gone haywire... also that the guy was a good guy to begin with, before being manipulated by his toxic GF, that your GF turns you into a spider monster gives a new meaning to the phrase "Toxic relationship"

  • @RA8IDP3NGUIN1
    @RA8IDP3NGUIN1 Před rokem

    Damn, randomly thought of you even though I haven't seen one of your vids for like 15 years. Glad to see you're still going strong.

  • @nozoto
    @nozoto Před rokem +2

    26:31 This sequence needed a throwback to Phoebus in Goodtimes's the Hunchback of Notre Dame, as he gestured for Quasimodo to jerk off
    😁

  • @DrDestructo
    @DrDestructo Před rokem +2

    Goron huffs the Z99 gas and becomes uncomfortably buff and upsetting to look at.
    Stupid sexy Goron.

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon Před rokem +2

    The Arachnoid always stood out to me because of the weird way he says his name everytime. "THE ARACHNOoooOoOOoooid!"

  • @cville991
    @cville991 Před rokem +1

    If the doctor wanted spider powers, he should’ve ask Peter Parker to begin with. 😆

  • @joanahkirk338
    @joanahkirk338 Před rokem +2

    Would be neat if a new Spider-man series remade this story taking more from the first, but including the bit of the scientist pretending to be Spider-man for a while and having a 60s pointing spider-man moment.

  • @Pyke64
    @Pyke64 Před rokem +2

    Triple J turning into Wabu at the end was my favourite part of the episode. Oh and Spiderman considering losing all his powers, potentially dooming thousands, in order to donate some blood.

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis Před rokem

    I've been waiting for this episode for months! :D