Yes, There are Still Cheaters in Chess!
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
- Hikaru runs in to an obvious cheater playing blitz.
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#gmhikaru #chess #chesscheating - Hry
i love super gm vs engine content as much as they may not like it
Agreed😂
@@outsidethepyramid as a person who has played many cheaters this isnt true.
@@outsidethepyramidI’m not sure how exactly they do it but with all those red flags and him being banned is 100% confirmation he was a cheater
They get so mad when they get beaten once in their life
Who are “they?”
I love how he always asks in disbelief how he’s down on the clock like it’s some conspiracy 😅
Lol, he's so incredibly fast that that's how he thinks, and it's probably been true in so many situations that that's where his mind goes.
I love Hikaru but watching him play poor chess and get mad about it is probably my favorite part of this channel
because he usually plays complicated moves that require his opponents to think, but the person was using an engine which means he had a lot of time
@@gmart3290watching him accuse supi of cheating was gold
He always crys saying ohhh he is a cheater lol like wth
Hikaru: “He’s moving much quicker than me”
Also Hikaru: up on clock
As world champagne Harry Kaspov once said, "a knight on F5 is worth two in the bush".
my man Hikaro in thumbnail was just 2cm away to a master piece LMAO
Bro💀
hickaroo
What is the bgm at 16:22
He hates cheating ai usage so he'd never snog a bot
Why would you ever cheat in a game of chess? Don't you know chess speaks for itself?
Apparently cheating gives you a real buzz.
@@bramvissers4985 it can be tantalizing 😉
There's a good portion of the population who don't know anything about how serious cheating with a computer program is considered in the chess community. I have met such people in real life, and I know that a good majority of people have no knowledge nor understanding of what the attitudes are about using computer programs to cheat. They may think that it would be funny, they might think it's inconsequential and harmless, they might think of it as some kind of harmless prank. And, of course, there are plenty of those who get a kick when they get to play on the top levels and see themselves having a very high rating, and thus are among the "elite" of players.
Cheater @ 3:46
May god bless you
3:50 intro
God's work
I feel bad for hikaru for getting +3 when he wins and -14 when he loses
If you knew how much dollars he makes by being a chess master you would not worry so much about another mans rating
@@jrhenry24his comment had nothing to do with money
@@jrhenry24 alright buddy, when someone in ur family dies imma point out the money in ur life
@@ShreksScrumptiousSucculentToes no kidding. But hikaru has multiple times talked about the money he makes streaming being the most important part of his streaming. So if he loses 11 ratings points dont lose sleep.
i can understand cheating in some games, where it's still you doing a lot of the interaction such as moving towards enemies or watching them through walls, but in chess it's just weird because you literally don't get to do anything. maybe you can just play whatever for the first 4 or 5 moves and then turn on the engine, but after that you're pretty much just watching a chess game play itself with nothing else happening. not even getting to see your opponent get upset at their losing position.
Wow, what a savage mate first game lol. Stockfish asserting dominance.
2800 rating & account around for one hour made me spit out my coffee😂
As an engine I can confirm that Hikaru is stronger then me
Loved hearing the occasional American pie lyric in the beginning!
Either there are a lot of gm's playing ridiculously low accounts, or bots are being used. It's a real problem.
Did this man stream 40 minutes of chess immediately before entering Titled Tuesday?
Engine, engine, engine, engine! Disse ele 😂
Locomotiva 🚂🚂
Uhhhhhh meu guiri
Hikaru was not looking then made a suddenly.
Can you do another Odds vs Stockfish video? Something like Bishop Odds or 3 Pawn Odds and see if you can beat stockfish?
The Ne6 tactic that Hikaru spotted at 10:00 is very cool!
What would come after, I didn't see how that was a check/mate
Explain
no idea what the idea was. Put the position in an engine and it doesn't seem to know either
@karthiks881 If he went kf8 then Ne6+ and only move is pawn takes Knight then Rxf6#
Hans Niemann picked his new nickname by pressing random keys on the keyboard
Well, we all know now why this is happening don't we? lol
that “still” in the title speaks for itself 😂
lol
The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Please elaborate
Its hoax
@@Hopefully2025 You see, it's not a story a GM would tell you.
dang these cheaters
Yes, the sky is still blue!
There is so much sand bagging/cheating from 2 day old accounts I play everyday at my level lol but that’s probably due to my trash rating
It looks wrong, it feels wrong, and now it's probably wrong. By Hikaru 2023
I despise cheaters but i love to see a super grandmaster face off against an engine
Imagine if he had posted this title after his Praggnanhanda match😂😂. Million views 😂😂
I think Hikaru really loves streaming. He showed all of his games even the one that got him eliminated, with good attitude. Surely he will have much better performance in future.
If chess expert like hikaru says you're cheating.....that means 99.9% you are cheating. For once, I would even admit I'm cheating when I'm not cheating just because it's the expert who's there..... that's the kind of respect these people deserve for sure!
What did Hikaru say about Hans?
@@raylopez99 What's the conclusion to that one? There weren't any ultimate verifications instated to make further cheating impossible
@@raylopez99 He said "Hmm... strange... I mean, come on guys. Really? Come on, guys. Come on."
@@ChocolateMilk..It's just trolls. One needs to be really dumb to actually think Carlsen was salty when the guy has always lavishly praised juniors who perform well against him. Most of them are people who just look for any reason to hate Carlsen. And to be fair Hikaru Ian and Wesley also openly called Hans out as well.
How to consecrate the world chess champion, widely considered the strongest players in the tournament (World Cup). GM Hikaru Nakamura, you are already halfway to becoming the next World Chess Champion. 🙄🤔
Hikaru what's your music list?
18:34 This GM Pranav 🇮🇳 from India, there's a story about him that he is very poor , and local chess community crowd sourced money to buy him 💻 laptop ... Before that he used to borrow from everyone...
Well, it's morning where I'm at! 😄
When you watch Hikaru play while he's talking, if you just heat the audio, he sounds like he's playing TERRIBLY, but that's because he's so critical of his moves and that's why he continues to improve.
Justin Holt public enemy no1
Thumbnail goes too hard 🥶
Did Hikaru use 'Castlemania' unironically at 31:13? :p
as soon as i saw "joined 1 hour ago" i knew
As soon as I saw the account name I knew it was a cheater.
Really swagged on your bud Pranav there.
His username was obviously a fake troll cheating account
He has very convincing name
I mean.. That acc name already speak for itself💀, Definitely cheater lol
First game you castled your King and your Queen :)
Senpai San, it's Tuesday and you're meant to be in Baku (World Cup). Are you in your hotel room?
this is a vod from older streams i think
Cheaters could be the worst type of players
Second is Stallers
Worst chess players:
1. Cheaters
2. Bullet players who don't even try to play good (premove the entire opening, nothing but defense, just try to win on time from move 1)
3. Bullet players who memorize a bizarre opening just to get a cheap advantage against casual players
4. Anybody who plays 0 increment games
5. Ask for rematch after winning
6. Refuse to accept draw in utterly drawn position (sub-category of Flagger)
7. Play defensively as White
8. Stallers
@@whosaidiwantedahandlehalf of these are just "I hate bullet" 😂
@@whosaidiwantedahandle buddy just lost 5 years of his lifespan coping in a comment section
@@whosaidiwantedahandle and also lefong bullet player
@@whosaidiwantedahandle 800 has a petty criteria for the “worst”players, lmao bro said anyone who plays 1/0 3/0 10/0 gtfo😂🤡
Since Hikaru is married, he should know there is a different kind of cheating. Wifey should watch Magnus like a hawk.
PGN of the first game:
1. Nf3 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. a3 a6 5. h3 Nf6 6. g3 O-O 7. Bg2 b5 8. O-O Bb7 9. Re1 Nbd7 10. e4 e5 11. d5 Rc8 12. Rb1 c6 13. dxc6 Rxc6 14. Nd2 Qa8 15. g4 Rfc8 16. Qf3 Nb6 17. g5 Nh5 18. Nb3 Na4 19. Nd5 Re8 20. c3 Rcc8 21. Be3 Qb8 22. Qe2 Bxd5 23. exd5 Qc7 24. Nd2 Nb6 25. Bf3 Nf4 26. Bxf4 exf4 27. Qxe8+ Rxe8 28. Rxe8+ Bf8 29. Ne4 Nd7 30. Re1 Ne5 31. Nf6+ Kg7
Have fun importing and analyizing
Engine says the biggest blunder was Knight to f4 on move 25. or 2:39 in the video
lichess claims an accuravy of 93% and an average centi pawn loss of 19
so yeah, probably cheating
i don't really doubt that the player was cheating, but you make yourself look foolish saying "lichess claims an accuravy of 93% and an average centi pawn loss of 19". that doesn't mean what you think it means.
at a lowly 2300 i play games higher accuracy and comparable centi pawn loss all the time--it's not because i've ever in my life played at GM level, it's that your accuracy goes up and your centipawn loss goes down when your opponent blunders and you punish it. chess is actually *really hard*, so people often make blunders so bad that the rest of your moves play themselves. if this happens during the first 20~ moves (during which intermediate players might be playing very "high accuracy" moves because it's just "my opening" + "principled stuff to grab the center, etc"), the winner gets huge accuracy, tiny centipawn loss once they punish the blunder and win the game shortly after. when you're up a ton of material, the attacks play themselves.
[edit; i misremembered the move]. i think someone at this guy's rating rolling over Hikaru after such a weird opening screams "suspicious."
@@henryflower8459 he played vs Hikaru so u need play a strong as him to have a low CP
@@henryflower8459 I do know that high accuracy and low centi pawn loss doesn't imply cheating but it is a good indicator regarding the high accuracy in that complex position under that time pressure.
Hikaru from 11:35 to 11:49 🗿
It's pathetic cheat on games, we live in the age of EGO, i really don't understand why so many people cares about increasing his ELO... it's just pathetic as it sounds...
Holy f... i saw that rook move in advance
Niemann's burner account
the thumbnail looks like you're about to make out with the robot
At 30:22 how about Rf5..if he takes with the bishop we are threatening back rank checkmate..
If Rf5 then Qg6 and the rook is pinned to a mate and white will win all the pawns
Where does hikaru stream?
lichess definitely has the most cheaters.
I haaaate cheaters
It's so evident and they straight up lie
It's so annoying
Does anyone know the song that starts playing at this time 21:46 ?
Hikaru, you may be getting slightly older, but in my opinion you're playing better overall chess in all the formats then you ever have before. Keep giving us amazing content, but keep pushing your game to it's ultimate limits. You're number 2 to Magnus, and im not talking live ratings, just overall. Hikaru may have a chance to outdo Magnus on some level one of these days, and I know that's an unpopular opinion, but other than the really young prodigies, I believe he's the only viable threat to Magnus. I think there games are reasonably close. Keep playing and working hard, you're playing amazing.
yeah that's actually bad. It's known that around hikaru's age you get 2nd peak and that is last peak you get in your career, it's a sign of your last era, from that peak it's only down x_x so I see it negative not positive.
The glazing is crazy
lol since when being world's #2 is a bad thing? @@harnageaa
@@harnageaaif someone is at their mental / physical best, of course it only can move in 2 directions, for the better or the worse. That's literally always true and doesn't seem like a negative thing at all, if someone thinks "well I've peaked, its downhill from here", that'll be the case, so your thinking is by default not how champions think. It's a given that everybody and anybody will peak at some point, but that can only be identified after the fact with any accuracy. Throughout any GM's history they've been at their best in terms of ELO or performance many many times, so what?
@@jaconova😮 indeed, because wherever he goes he is the best chess player in the room, so long as magnus isn't there 🎉
You know what I want.
i had no idea that hikaru had a girlfriend and now wife!! congrats hikaru
His rating is very suspicious. Normally only Im and Gm have 2800 elo or more.
Like the other cheater he played on the "Disrespect Speedrun" series. Had a name "TheDayKasparovQuit". And had an elo of 3001 at Blitz. Not Titled too so it's very suspicious.
I cant believe Hans Niemann created a new account again😢
Hans Niemann is busy brother... He just won a tournament with 9.5/10 he has no time to play with little hikki
@@aminesosa8676 Yeah bro, Magnus and Hikaru are nothing compared to Hans Niemann 💪😎
@@Tom-hf4omof course not, no humans beats a strong engine cmon
Bongcloud when?
The thumbnail looks like nick fury and his wife at the end of secret invasion
Watching that , it looks like a mouse slip of the queen but maybe Hikaru didnt release the left button to validate Queen on b6 . ( i see nothing else bizarre ) 😅
Why does a man in his 30s call himself old? Surely the standard has to be 30s as prime????
I thought you were playing in the chess world cup.
He qualified
Did he “retire”?
What’s the end goal of cheating in chess ?😂 like there’s no one even watching it happen and you’re not getting paid wtf ?
I run into cheaters every now and again. Yesterday I had a guy who stopped playing for like 2 mins straight in a losing position. At 20 secs left on clock he starts making the best moves spread about .5 secs apart for multiple moves in a row. Up until that point he had been playing like crap.
he just has skill
@comfyblue11 yeah I'm sure... after many thousands of games it's very easy to spot! But glad trolls are still around :)
@@comfyblue11If he had skill he wouldn’t have been playing like 💩for most of the game 😂 - he paused because he was plugging the moves into an engine
Of course I will take much more time when I know I am losing.That is not a proof of cheating. He probably came up with the good defense after thinking. Without thinking, he was losing
@milannesic5718 yeah it does not work that way sorry. I am by no means high elo at all, with my max at 1455. However, I have played over 10000 games just this year. It was a blitz game 3+2. Within the first 40 secs I had a winning position and was up +4. He then does not make a move for over 2 minutes. Then with 19 secs left on the clock he makes about 10 moves in a row all the top engine moves all within .5 secs of each other. It's called cheating... plain and simple.
this is 2018 vod?
@GMHikaru play against Worstfish and let him win!
It's intresting how a super gm can feel when there Is something weird with his opponents
They should just IP ban the cheaters. Like Twitch does.
that doesn’t stop people
Ooooh, so then you'd have to get a whole new phone?!? 😮😮😮
@@cwl2463 not even, ip addresses are not static normally for one, you can use VPNs to change them, etc etc.
@@cwl2463nah just get a VPN I’m banned for verbal abuse so 💀
i played someone at a 500 level, who literally had 100% accuracy, ! !! ! for opening middle and end game just perfectly countering every single move I made
Wow
Song at 16:15 ?😂
Buy low sell high come on day trader it’s not all that difficult. No Botez gambits allowed in asset management
12:06 is this true? 😂😂
Did anybody else see that the cheater played 2 moves in a row?? Or am i crazy??
Ur da best
For Hikaru anyone who wins to him is cheater hahaha the guy doesn’t learned to lose
HIkaru has changed. Ever since he Carlsen he is cockier than the US Women's Soccer National Team.
2018 what?
Whenever Hikaru loses, he accuses said person of cheating.
That mean you believe this guy not cheating? lmao.
1st game wasnt a cheater,learn how to lose at chess Mr Drawkamura. I think Pragg was cheating too lol
Hikaru can you please spend some money on your setting? Jeez man that's depressing.
Carlsen(Messi)andHikaru(Ronaldo) it's a competition to infinity
So many r3t@rds in the comments saying hikaru is salty after his loss but the guy's actually cheating and his account was closed. 😂
an Indian cheating? how surprising
Maybe someone sent Ga(R)ry K. a pirated vhs of The Color of Money? ( I'll probably be good at chess someday, my name is hard to spell too )
Some good acting by Hikaru to soften the fall but a bit pathetic, when he drops the Queen on b6 pretending that it was a mistake, but for sure he saw that Re5 de5 Ke8 wins the queen. Engine bust no need for this, just reality.
I thought we are going to get a full cheating video. Man disapointed to see some legit chess in here after being baited. Seeing engines trash unsuspecting (at least at first) GMs is my guilty pleasure, if you can call it that.
Came when the upload was 3 minutes ago
Hikaru blunders = cheater
I mean its clear he is cheating no?
Just look at the time usage to find the checkmate.
disgusting
He is cheater for real
Yeah, wow, ye you guys, oh no, really, wow, oh no again? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 Can you imagine Magnus talking like this?
stop making fun of the goat
@@imxlukethe 🐐 of resigning as soon as his opponent makes two good moves in a row😂
@@zero_nova2849 didn’t he only do that like once? either way that doesn’t change how good of a player and how cool of a personality he has