Rogue Monster Lite LT-1 Trolley Arms | In-Depth Review | Demonstration | Strongman Garage Gym Review
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- This is my review of the Monster Lite variation of the LT-1 Trolley Arms by Rogue Fitness. This video was made after over 1 year of use on the item.
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Rogue Monster Lite LT-1 Trolley Arms | In-Depth Review | Demonstration | Strongman Garage Gym Review
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This is such a great video man. I love the creativity. I’m not even in the market for the trolley arms right now. But love the content you created. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
I've been subscribed to your channel for quite a while now & always enjoy the good insight you provide on your equipment. Thanks for sharing another review of this product & especially some creative setup tips to try. Thanks for taking the time making these informative videos.
Thank you for the sub and the compliment. The CZcams game has been a little frustrating at times but comments like yours make me want to keep at it.
Excellent video and demonstration! You clearly showed me how to use and what to use it for!! Perfect and you earned a new subscriber...camera angles were awesome
Thank you for watching.
Some of these variantions are just pure genius. Thanks for the inspiration !
Thank you
I've known about power racks for over 40 years. Amazing someone didn't think of trolley arms sooner. Such a cool, simple and awesome innovation. Great creative ideas in this video, too. Thank you.
Thank you for watching. It is crazy when something gets developed and I get the “why didn’t I think of that” feeling.
@@TheKurtlocker Especially when I think of the hundreds of times I used a power rack with feet of Hammer Strength machines. When the trolley arms came out, I'm sure thousands of us felt like dumbasses!
Awesome review and examples. Thank You!!!!
Thank you for watching! I appreciate the compliment.
Hey man thanks so much for doing this review. There.aren't many videos on the trolley system and I have been debating on whether to get the short or long arms.
No problem. I was thinking about making an entire video with just different variations I use them for
Great job. Just ordered them as I wait for my rack.
I hope you enjoy them like I do!
This is a GREAT video! I have a shoulder injury too AND I have spotter arms. I feel like you made this video ONLY for me.
I sat down and just asked myself “what would Gilbert want to see?”
Great video man. Good review, lots of good info here. A lot of people seem to hate on the ML version vs. the monster. You don't seem to mind any of the differences and it doesn't seem to hinder the exercises you can do with them.
I still fantasize about a monster series rack, but I also love my monster lite.
I was actually in the process of dismantling mine and getting ready to sell them since they've pretty much collected dust over the last couple years, but this has made me rethink things.
If you don’t use them, you may need to deliberately program them or maybe it’s just time to get rid of them.
Awesome use of the spotters
Thank you!
Sweet review brother. Thank you for sharing it with us and thanks for the great inventive ideas on how to use them. I see this video is 8 months old now. Are you still using them regularly ? Thanks again!
I still use the lever arms multiple times per week. I personally am a huge fan. I understand that other way use them with far less frequency and that’s fine, but I find them to useful pieces.
@@TheKurtlocker right on. Thank you for the feedback! They would be a lot cheaper than the hammer strength chest and shoulder presses I’ve been considering plus do a lot more 💪🏻
man i fucking dig this. i am like, 10 steps behind you atleast in my garage gym setup but i have the basics. same rack, same horse stall mats 😅 this really helped me wrap my head around the trolley arms and their versatility. great vid
your rack is mounted into the ground or free standing? it’s mandatory to have it bolted into the concrete for these arms right?
I have my rack mounted to the platform
Also, you’ll get there. Gyms like mine don’t happen overnight
@@jacoblaffoon6485 I'm thinking as long as the rack is weighted down, using loaded plate posts to the rear of the rack, you should be good, but I am no expert.
You’ll likely be fine. The recommendation to bolt down is a matter of safety
you should get the rogue adjustable pullup bar for your viking press situation
I've thought about it. I currently just bolt on my old simple pull-up but the adjustable would be quicker
Good video. I think it would also be possible do a leg press variation. There is actually a video of someone doing that with sorinex jammer arms, and I think it would be possible with Rouge Trolley Arms as well.
I’ve seen the leg press videos. I’m missing the piece to push against. Rogue doesn’t make one but I’m sure I could make one from wood. I would think that the biggest issue is creating a heavy enough load. Bands would probably be required
@@TheKurtlocker -Great video. I’ve watched a few and yours are always so informative. Much appreciated. I have the shorter trolley arms on my monster (which I think is perfect since I’m a small woman and think the longer ones would have been really hard to move around for me). Anyhow, two of my favorite uses for them include the vertical leg press (I just put the safety arm at the very bottom, trolley arm right over that which gives the perfect angle for me. And I lay on my back and put my foot on the handle and do one leg at a time and can go deep) and I love doing donkey kicks with these too. It all works wonderfully! I highly recommend giving these a try.
With that said, I have seen numerous pictures of these types of arms standing out perpendicular to the upright without the use of the safety arms. But this is impossible, right? At least for the Rogue arms?
You just hold the arm up and throw the safety arm on at the same time. I wish I could do that, but I’m too small to maneuver it all. So I use bands to lock the arm into an upright position (and out of the way) so I can put the safety arms in. I’m terribly afraid of the arm falling down on my head, but I think they made it so it stays up rather safely. In any event, the bands are my insurance policy from an unwanted lobotomy! 😱😱
@@Curious_Jen I imagine you could use chains from the top of the upright to the end of the arm to keep them perpendicular to the ground and parallel to the floor. Using bands (or a buddy) to support the arms seems like an excellent idea to me to keep from taking an arm to the dome.
Thanks for watching and thank you for the great question!
Wow, $250 that was a steal. I like how in your original review you referenced M.50 Cal trigger system as implemented. I’m currently interested in a decent jammer arm system for my 3x3 rack, but maybe going after Rep Fitness’s design once they release it next month.
The rep fitness design looks sharp. Not at engineered as the Rogue version, but still gets the job done
Great video! Home Gym life!
Yes! Thank you!
Awesome Video! Can you tell the minimal distance between your grip for the viking press measured between your inner nuckles? I grip with a pretty close grip for strict press and am worried i can not grip as narrow in the non-neutral position with those attachments. Unfortunatly the new narrower ones with the knurled straight bar do not fit on the lite series too.
I unfortunately do not own these arms anymore. Sorry
Great video! Do you know if the rep bench color matches rogue bright blue?
It’s a pretty close match
great video. those trolley arms look like an amazing piece of equipment but that huge price tag is a deal breaker for most people. heck those arms cost more than most racks. its ashamed Rogue won't do better on the price.
I would check another brand to see if theirs is compatible
Very true! The arms carry a price tag that is going to scare a lot of folks away. I know that Rep fitness arms will fit on a Rogue 3x3 upright
Smart man with those spotter arms. That’s awesome 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Thank you! Sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut
Great video! I just subbed! I am considering going for the short arm version. Do you think the long arm version is better or do you wish you had more In cage options. I think the short arm version should be able to be used inside and outside the cage. But maybe changing the upright bars they roll on may be a huge pain.
Moving the arms inside to our would be less than convenient. I find that the longer arms on the outside paired with the SAML-24 safety spotter arms have a ton of versatility
@@TheKurtlocker Rogue says can use the shorter on the outside too, do you see any limitations using the shorter on the outside (difficulty of movements), asking as outside space is a premium, and neither will fit inside. Could you do the same movements using the shorters on the outside as in the video w/out wierd movement?
You can do almost all variations but will just have an increased arc through the range of motion. I prefer the longer arms, but I did choke up my handles to the 35” position for a few weeks and found that almost all the movements are nearly the same. Slightly different feel for movements that go from the hang to overhead
@@TheKurtlocker I appreciate you trying the 35" position and letting us know. I'm on the fence to be honest. I'm considering shorter arms due to more options and less outside cage space needed. Neither have been available for a while. The fixed arm is available today.
Space is at a premium in most home gyms. If you can accommodate the longer arms, the shorter arms will work just fine. I still prefer the longer arms, but you’ll do just fine with the 35” ones
Hey thanks for the review. Hey do you think the Sorinex J-Squat will work with the Rouge Trolley Arms?
If you have the monster version it is compatible.
If you have monster lite, alterations to the hole size where the J squat connects needs to be made.
The Kurtlocker thanks man, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. Thanks again for the content.
Thank you for watching. I hope I can get more content out that you enjoy soon.
Great Video Kurtis! I was looking at a pair, but the shorter version. My concerns that the longer arms have too much play in them? Their expensive ($995!) and I don't want to get the shorter version and wish I had the longer ones. I can use the shorter ones inside my rack and probably most of the exercises outside the rack as well. If you know anyone that uses the shorter arms, I'd be interested. Otherwise great job!
I don’t personally know anyone with the shorter arms, but you do see then out there. If I hear anything I’ll reach back out to you on this thread
@@TheKurtlocker Thank you
Both lengths are sold out, so plenty go with the short arms. I agree that the shorter ones have more versatility. You can use inside and out. I don't see any advantage to the long. I plan to get the short. They are only 13" shorter (35 vs 48) and most videos I see with the long have the handles in a bit and extra space behind the person, basically negating any additional function with the long. Take a look at the video demonstration again and see if anything done with the long can't be done with the short. I don't think there is anything.
@@brunomolino5773 Most of the time that I use my arms they are at the end of the length but I have also never used the shorter versions. Maybe I need to try using my longer arms choked back to the shorter length and see if there is a large difference. One limitation I do see to the shorter arms is the ability to effectively belt squat. The shorter length would increase the arc to the movement and cause mid-foot loading issues.
Of course a SquatMax MD would be best anyway for bet squatting anyway...but that is a different debate
Any ideas on how to use this setup for leg press or leg extensions. I'm trying to figure out a way to justify them for the misses to use them for those exercises.
I’ve seen some Instagram posts where people do this using a pin-on leg roller and an elevated bench.
@@TheKurtlocker Thanks.
Three questions.
1. Just ordered the Lever Arms. Would you still recommend them?
2. Is your rack with the Level Arms bolted to the ground?
3. The trick with the felt. How did this hold up? Would you do it again? Make any changes (i.e., felt tape)?
1. I have no regrets with owning my lever arms. I just wish rogue would develop more attachments
2. Yes, this is highly recommended for safety and could affect functionality if the arms are on a smaller, lighter rack or stand
3. Felt has held incredibly well. I’ve seen a bunch of felt tape versions but I still like my flashy red felt more. It requires more effort but offers a point of customization
@@TheKurtlocker Last question. Standard or short? There doesn’t seem to be much agreement on this. I’m getting the RM690 and 100”. Ideally outside the rack placement. I want to do a mix of lifts ranging from cleans, car deadlifts, shoulder/chest push work, essentially anything accessory lol.
In my opinion, if you are putting them outside the rack I would go with the longer arms.
Great info here! I want to add them to the ML390-F but Rogue discourages this. I would use your flat bench idea for shrugs. Even if I have 300-400lbs on the back in stored plates though? Come on, it shouldn't move at all.
I think that rogue and I are in the same boat here where we aren’t willing to accept the risk for a rack that isn’t bolted to the floor.
You’re right that you’ll likely be fine, but I can’t guarantee it as there are a lot of factors that play into stability
I just picked up a Monster Pair in the longer length. Took about 2 months to get from the time I placed my order. The first arm adjusted very easily. The second one, not so much. I received one trolley arm with the set screws, the other did not have it. I also noticed the plastic lining in one trolley is actually thinner than the other one. As a result, I get a little more wobble in that trolley. I'm currently trying to resolve this with Rogue. Surprisingly, the one without the set screws has the least side to side movement, but it does have the thicker plastic lining. My question for you is how much "wobble" is considered acceptable? With certain movements the wobble is hardly noticeable, but others I notice it more. I read some other posts from people electing to go with the shorter arms to help avoid this, but there isn't a lot of reviews pertaining to this product. Coop does his review but he doesn't get into too much of it. His pair apparently did not have any issues. Just your thoughts. Thank you
I think that having play is important. Too tight of a tolerance and you have a stuck trolley. Too sloppy for me is where you can move it like 3/16” or more without applying too much effort
@@TheKurtlocker Thanks. I guess its just a process of trial and error to get it just right.
Absolutely but once it’s there you’re good to go
Hey Kurt, would you still get the long arms if you had to buy them again? Or would you go with the shorter arms?
I am a huge fan of the longer arms for use outside the rack. I use the longer lever to mimic strongman implements such as the viking press and he car deadlift. If you plan to do a lot of pressing I believe that the shorter arms inside the rack to likely be a better option. Especially if most of your movements are seated on a bench
Thanks again Kurt not only for taking the time to reply, but putting in the work to make these videos. They are really helpful and informative and it’s appreciated. I went ahead and placed my order this morning for the standard 48” to use outside the rack.
Thank you for the kind words. I live my trolley arms and I hope you have a similar experience
Am I able to buy the jammer arms with buying the trolley system and if so what is the price difference, thanks.
I’m imagining you meant purchasing the trolleys independently of the arms. Unfortunately I don’t know the answer to your question. I would reach out to team@roguefitness.com for your query
Would you prefer leverage arms inside rack post or on outside post? Also debating between getting the rogue sling pull down attachment or use the leverage arms inside rack and use them as a lat pull down system?? I saw another guybusing them like that on another video.
Matt Pendergraph does a lot with those slinger/lever arms stuff. I prefer them outside the rack but I also never attempted using them inside.
@@TheKurtlocker thank u. And do u think they are worth it?
Do you know if they work on foldable wall squat rack?
They will work but it’s not recommended. I enjoyed using them when I had them but I don’t have them now and they aren’t on my short list of items to purchase.
@@TheKurtlocker ur saying they will work inside rack but is not recommended?
The long arms won’t, the short arms will. I never used them inside for this reason. I have seen the shorter arms inside the rack and used with drop in safeties with great success for folks looking to replicate a lot of machine type movements inside the power rack
Can these trolly arms be attached to wall mount squat racks from Rogue? Don’t know if the weight distribution will be a problem. Anyone know?
They will attach to their respective systems (Monster lite or Monster) but I think it’s a recommended vs not recommended and more from a safety perspective
How you compare the rack to sorinex
I’ve never used it owned a Sorinex but I know that the rogue and sorinex racks are similar. There are some hole diameter differences as well as some hole placement differences. Between the rogue and the sorinex trolley I have heard from other reviews that the sorinex trolley system has a little more “slop” but not that big of a difference
So do u still think these rogue leverage arms still worth it? Been reading and people been telling mixed reviwes about these arms more negatives than positives...if you had to chose between powertec multipress, inspire functional trainner and the rogue arms which ones will u get???
Assuming you have the equipment I have, prx rack, Valor lat pull down machine, Titan cable tower v3, echo rogue bike, powerblock dumbells and many, many more functional trainning equipment.
I don’t have the lever arms anymore and didn’t regret owning or selling mine. I sold them because I upgraded my rack to 1” hardware not because of amount of use. The powertec multi press is a cool piece but requires floor space. For that reason it’s a no go for me
@@TheKurtlocker thank u
Would these work on a rogue half rack 2? I think the shorter arms would be better on my rack since it's 90inch tall.
My rack is 90” tall and works well. I’m a big fan of the longer arms as it allows for a straighter travel through more range of motion. I don’t know how well it would function on a half rack though. I would imagine you would be pretty limited with where the back uprights attach to the front uprights. I’m talking about the horizontal piece being in the way
@@TheKurtlocker yeh I think i'm only about to adjust from 65inches down to 15inches of range. I would give it a shot for $500 at most, hopefully I can get them used.
Can’t hurt to attempt. I’m a huge fan of them and use them pretty often
@@TheKurtlocker as much as I like the lever but for the price I rather pay a little more to go with a functional trainer cable weights. With cable weights you get all the angles compared to the lever arms. The lever arms don't have all the angles but still have it's pros and cons. I wish rogue sell it for the price you got it for then it would make sense to get it.
If you have space a functional trainer does seems to have some huge benefits!
What size rack do you have, and what is your ceiling height?
90” rack with 96” ceilings
@@TheKurtlocker my ceiling is right at 100-101"... think I'm going to have to use the 90" to be safe
Unfortunately I would agree. I prefer to use a 100” rack height so I can press inside.
do u think that you wide die if u put those on a squat stand like the sml-2c
My personal thoughts are that if the squat stand is weighted down by some loaded plate posts at least, that you could be okay. Best if it was bolted down
I'm thinking something similar, but using them on a RML-390F rack. I would just weigh it down with some loaded plate posts in the back
Like I said, it’ll probably work just fine. I think the recommendation to bolt it down is a matter of safety over function
@@TheKurtlocker Appreciate the replies. Keep up the great work you are doing.
Thank you! I love these interactions.
Think this fits on a rep fitness PR-4000 (3x3 rack)
I think it will, but there will be more slop due to the rep being just under 3x3 material.
@@TheKurtlocker what about a Titan X-3 (3x3 5/8”) Rack??
It may fit but the holes for the trolley’s safety pin may not line up. It wouldn’t be “as safe” if this is the case. Of course, they may line up as well. I don’t know because I don’t have a Titan x3 rack to test it on
Jon did you get this for your PR-4000? If so, did it work? Just got mine and hoping to use the Rogue trolly arms with it for the monster lite series
@@ethanyost2792 I am very interested in the compatibility here. I will continue to watch for an update if you provide one
Arw these compatible withRml 390c?
Absolutely.
How hard or tedious is to maneuver around this arms when I wanna use my foldable rogue rack for benching, squating or anything else besides the arms? I kinda remember while back this guy mentioning they were great but that it was a pain to work around them??
Are they permanently installed and will they get in the way of other exercises? Thak u
I use them while benching to assist in my liftoff and squat with the j-cups attached to the arms. They do not get in my way at all
Can this be used for the Rogue Foldable RAcks?
I wouldn't recommend it, but it will work for Monster-lite uprights
Why would you not recommend them for foldable racks? I am looking to purchase the 35” because space is tight and I have a rogue 21” foldable rack. I talked to rogues customer service and they said while they couldn’t recommend it because it’s not bolted to the floor they have had a number of people order them. Great reviews by the way. You have the most thorough review of the trolly arms I have come across.
I am simply echoing the same message as rogue customer service. It will still work but the uprights won’t be “as secure” as a bolted unit.
Thanks. It says on their website that the arms are 71lbs each. How much of that weight do you think you’re actually lifting? In other words how do you determine how much weight you’re going to add?
thehighhonkey I have a small hanging scale I use to see actual weight. You get used to anticipating their weight though.
A year later, do you think it’s worth getting lever arms?
If you have the expendable income and want increased flexibility, yes. If you are still building the foundation of your gym, not necessarily
Word! Thanks for the response! Been eyeing some that are on the market for 750 and been hesitating to buy them lol
$750 isn’t too hateful either.
Has anyone tried to turn this into a leg press?
Titan makes an attachment for that specifically
Do you even use these anymore?
I sold these when I upgraded to a 1” rack. The new stray dog alpha arms are on the way to my gym
@@TheKurtlocker
Nice!!
shoulda kept it at 250 but realistically at most like 600-700
I wonder how much Sorinex’s price affected Rogue’s price point decision
@@TheKurtlocker Its crazy how they priced em at 700 base or 1000 for the adjustable one. Tbh I would pay the 300 extra for just the trolley system upgrade but how is 2 pieces of 3x3 and a pair of handles marked up to 700 dollars like what. I almost considered building my own using titans lever arm mounts and rogues 3x3 wall strip post and it came out to about 300 for all the parts
I’ve seen some folks use a “strip” from rogue and just fabricate hinges.
Better have 3 hours to workout all these adjustments.
Ha. You do get better at it with time. I will agree that the adjustments can be meticulous but the system will function sloppily like the sorinex system with no adjustments.
I'd rather have a cable system there
I agree that the new slinger system could be a more valuable use of that space. Especially now that it is kore than a BS top pulley-only system
Weird, People buy racks because machines do not work as well as free weights. Then they buy trolley arms for racks... which removes the advantages of free weights.
The advantage of free weights isn’t removed. In some ways it’s actually made better. People buy racks because of available space.
I think they ruin the rack and look tacky. I would Just stick to incline bench press, barbells, dumbbells etc.
They are definitely not for everyone. I use them for more than just upper body movements.
i find it a pain just to put the damn rod and pipe through the holes on my basic plain black 2x2 elitefts rack. and also just to switch from exercises as much as i dont even really have to do much, i could NOT imagine dealing with this kind of thing! sure it is absolutely ingenious but just isn't practical. i would be so turned off, i wouldnt even want to train with this rack. sorry just my opinion. switching this crap around would just mentally piss me off to the point where i would lose focus. i would rather just deadlift a bar from the ground. it has given me more results than anything like Awesome T has mentioned. i stick to the basic movements. and id rather just go to the gym, really.
the farthest i went was the SPUD pulley cable thing for $100 which is great and i did do some work with it but the free weights are still king
I definitely hear you and you’re not wrong. This is a piece of equipment that some will find useful and others won’t. I agree that free weights are still and will continue to be king
These seem ridiculous.
Ridiculously awesome! Ha. I want to get my hands on the 2.0s