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SERIOUSLY Good. The NEW Pecron E3600LFP Power Station can do nearly EVERYTHING!
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- #shtf #offgridpower #vanlife #carcamping #offgrid #backuppower
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Use code REEWE3600LFP for the lowest final price
These are going to start shipping in mid-July...so take advantage of this deal while you can!
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Use code REEPV300 for the lowest final price - but keep in mind that the BEST deal is if you get the
E3600LFP+PV300 bundle (which you can select from top link above)
Just passing on some 'breaking news': One of my favorite power station brands, PECRON, has apparently started their Prime Day Sale early! AND they've extended it to July 17th! So if you're in the market for a power station, NOW would be a great time to pounce!
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What kinds of things can this power station run (and for how long)?? Download this Google Spreadsheet and plug in the numbers to find out: bit.ly/44udlVQ
I love that you just get right into the videos. No intros, plugs, etc.
No apology necessary for a longer video. I have been driving myself crazy looking at Bluetti, Jackery, and leaned toward Anker, (until I saw this), lol
EcoFlow is the way to go Jerry. World class support and customer service ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐+ people!
@@Lobo-Lobo 100%
@@Lobo-Lobo EcoFlow is 3x the price. Pecron units are fantastic and work just as good. Had mine for years.
@@thenitruc8165 Not really....they have decent pricing....especially if you wait for sales and or buy open box stuff, basically brand new.Most of all their customer support. I had an issue with the small River 2, they upgraded me to the Pro, no questions asked and made sure I'm happy with it or if I needed more compensations. You don't see companies like that anymore!
What customer support. There basically is none for eco flow @@Lobo-Lobo
just ordered the e2000lfp. your discount code knocked the price from 849 down to 806.55. thank you much
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Super helpful video on this power supply. My wife and I are in the planning stages of non-RV nomad-boondocking using a Starlink and something like this unit to power it. Since I'm a novice at this I'm still determining our actual power requirements for something like Starlink, USB-C WiFi router, two MacBook laptops, two iPhone 13's, electric razor, etc. not all charging at the same time.
Of all the several brands of power banks I own I wish I owned this particular unit. For me the Pecron E3600LFP checks all the boxes I have been looking for in one power bank. Love the multiple DC input ports. I can use my solar saga 100W panel, my 2- 160W panels, and my 2- 220W bifacial to charge this unit and with some adapters I could use the linx solar panels too . With all the solar panels I can definitely charge this unit in any given solar day while using it.
Also love the DC outputs. I have found that I get an extra 2 hours of run time using the 5521 5V port when I connect my Dometic CFX3 45qt 12V fridge or my setpower 45Qt fridge as they each use less than 60W to run. Just buy a 5521 adapter with a female 12V cigarette plug for it. Also love the fact that it will actually run a diesel heater whereas many power stations will not. I really really like this unit. Had this video come out a couple of weeks earlier I definitely would have bought it. I just ordered the EG4 inverter and battery to build a diy power bank for fun. Great, great video as always,....thanks for sharing.
Eg4 is better quality than these portable units.
I have the 600 and the 2000, I love them both, I would highly recommend . A lot of bang for the buck!!
Wow! What a great unit, ESPECIALLY considering the low draw by the inverter in standby mode. I have never seen such an efficient unit. Thanks for the great review. This unit just went to the top of my wish list for my soon to be van conversion.
that is an amazing and thorough review, thanks! very informative!
Thank you sir!
Ordered the E3600LFP in early July. Now backordered to mid. August before they receive and ship it to me. I think it will be worth the wait. Make sure you get the extra discount. My final price was $1519.05 no state tax!
It looks solid and clearly is someplace between a EF Delta Max and a EF Delta Pro
They should increase the warranty, at these price points a good warranty gives buyers more confidence
Thank you for the review! I just got mine delivered while I was watching the video haha
How do you like yours so far? Do you recommend it?
@@robertbryant173 I unpacked it yesterday and right now I am charging via solar (2 x 400 w residential panels) and I'm getting around 550 w input (not the ideal angle). I really like it so far and I do have one of their 3kwh expansion battery to pair it with. Nothing bad to say about it so far. Will put it to the test in the next couple of days.
Just another update. It's been charging via solar fine from 8% to 62% at around ~550 Watts. When it reached 62% @11:29 am, the input was only 8 W (86.0v @ 0.1A). You would think that it would not charge properly, but now at 12:03 it shows 97% with an input of 17W (85.3v @ 0.2A). My panels are rated at 400W each, so not even in ideal circumstances this wouldn't have been possible. Basically it was at 1900 Wh at 11:29 am, and it got to 3,010 wh at 12:03. As I finish writing this email it got to 100%. I took screenshots along the way and I will write an email to Pecron and see if there is a software update or something that needs to fix this bug.
And yes, I changed the ports, both of them showing the same numbers.
@reeWrayOutdoors @pecron2879 Any suggestions?
Thanks
@@Nothing-to-see-here13hopefully they will get this fixed. I was ready to buy this pecron unit to replace an elechive that is basically acting the same way (and apparently can't be updated cuz there's no Wi-Fi to do it with). I never know if it's half charged, fully charged or what and I'm trying to boondock and that's not working for me. Can you post here if Pecron seems to have a software solution?
@@Judy-it5jp Of course. I sent an email earlier and I'm waiting for their response. I took screenshots along the way and I will send those over as attachments and hopefully they will identify the issue.
Mine is on the way… looking forward to it… looks great with the capacity, even at 82% on DC plus features, this a great unit.
As usual, a very informative review. I'm intrigued!
Glad they improved the range of the solar charging. It was always hard to find the right panels to keep it within range of the watts but also that 32-95 range... moving it up to 150 makes a huge difference in ability to max out solar charging. I really like the improvements they have made from my 2,000... also I like they don't have a power brick, having 3 of their products now I was building up quite the collection of power bricks
What a great unit! Good expansion capacity as well, very nice and great price.
Nice subtle Star Trek transporter reference near the end.
Small flathead screw driver can be used to choose/change the serial number (1-5) of the expansion batteries as they are added to this system. I believe ea. needs its own number in order for the Pecron app to differentiate betw them.
I believe you're correct!
Thanks for going into such detail on the benefits of this unit. I'm not too familiar at all with the Pecron unit. Great insight on this. Keep up the great work!
Got the 1500, just put in an order. Can’t wait for this beast.
Excellent presentation thank-you really enjoy watching your show.
There was quite a bit more noise on that amp with the pecron
Pecron for the major win
How does the Pecron E3600 compare to the Dabbsson DBS3500? Pecron1500 vs. Dabbsson 2300 Plus?
What would make this great is if LFP stood for, low frequency power, not Chinese high frequency stuff. I'll stick with what I have. Thanks for clarifying
It does look pretty good! But I'm afraid I've committed myself to the Jackery camp. Not quite ready to jump ship yet, although I *have* built my own DIY portable SLA battery station. Probably will build another. And maybe *another!* LOL Thanks for your inspiring videos!! 👍
I’m always amazed how these things do better on AC performance than DC like in this case. On the surface, you would assume the DC would have to do better, but in this case, not?
Its because they use dc to dc converter for the dc it drains more power than the dc to ac inverter.
The anker f3800 has a much better dc to dc, 99%. It actually surprises me how bad the dc to dc is on this one and it's the reason I'll probably get the f3800. Otherwise everything else is better about this pecron
Could you go over some of the UPS settings and auto AC charging settings in the app. Seems there are some smart/peak shaving functionality that they added that the old units did not have.
I actually did have a clip that covered that, but I guess I forgot to include it...but basically, there's a menu option in the Input/Output settings where you can specify the max state of charge when running in UPS mode. Nice for when you want to use it continually in UPS mode without constantly keep the SOC at 100% and stressing the battery cells more than necessary. And then there's another setting for max charge and discharge settings so you could, say, set the max discharge to 20% and the max charge to 90%, and thereby extend the long-term service life.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors sweet, yeah I checked the manual and am looking forward to that feature in general. The ability to throttle down the AC charging speed is really useful so I don't have to pull 1400-1800W from the wall.
Wow you beat Rablin Bob and HoboTech to the punch here
@@lakorai2 haha! I guess I did!
A/C output noise does sound a little bit louder on the higher frequency than wall outlet.
It seems great, but for RV usage if someone wanted to charge it quickly with an alternator it seems you would need to buy a DC to DC converter that output at least 36V?
Pecron sells a good one for only $150
You have to run it for a month to see if there is any flaws.
Thanks for your review. I normally don’t comment on reviews unless there is something really glaring about it. You might want to recheck the background noise comparison. There is definitely a Buzz on the power station side vs the grid power. Maybe you should consider using a device to test the noise level rather than your hearing. Thanks for the review.
I agree that the difference is more noticeable in the video after I boosted the audio clips...but I will maintain that standing next to the amp in person...the difference really was negligible. That said, I also agree that getting an analyzer that provides a numeric value for THD would be better...but they do cost a LOT. :)
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Couldn't you run that test w/ amp plugged into the Pecron & Pecron plugged into wall, then unplug Pecron & let the UPS function take over?
@fuzzy919 yeah that'd work too...just wouldn't be super telling about the speed of the switch-over.
Surely that on screen temperature reading is wrong. 100 degrees celcius?
This will be a perfect power station if it will accept a 24V DC to DC charging thru the solar charging xt60 port!
I've been waiting on this bad boy
QUESTION: Can it be setup to automatically turn on the AC outlets, when solar is available?
WITHOUT ANY USER INTERVENTION OR REMOTE INTERVENTION?
Wondering this as well. Be it when solar is available or if plugged in during an outage and drained up zero.. once power is restored, can it automatically turn on the AC inverter?
Other users must surely also need this capability, but the reviewers never test this functionality.
If it can not start up and provide AC it serves no purpose, because you have to be there all the time in case the battery drains, in order to turn the AC outlets back on.
Not sure why this is not tested in every review!
@@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration To say it 'serves no purpose' is a bit of an exageration - the unit could still be super useful for people even with that limitation. That said... "I" (and it sounds like you!) would like that feature, so hopefully some reviewers start testing it/commenting on it and more importantly, hopefully manufacturers start including it (if they aren't already).
Apparently Bluetti is not including the feature... I'm just starting to look into other options...
i wonder if using one DC port at a time would make a difference in using DC output?
I want to know if it will run a space heater 1500 W for 8 hours
@@nathanpender3353 nope. Not even close. 2 hours max. 1500W continuous is a heavy lift on battery capacity.
My only complaint about pecron is solar panels. They work fine with their own solar panels. Good luck getting other solar panels to work.
I use several different brands and had no issues
Can you turn the wireless charging completely off? And bluetooth etc?
Hello. Thank you for a wonderful review as usual. My question is for powering up gadgets that need 220v does pecron inverter provide a 220V or only 120V, cuz that wouldn't work with appliances outside the US
Can you replace the battery on this like the Licitti battery box? I have a Licciti box and love that feature but this power station seems to be more mature in many other things.
your ac unit is 8000 btu and only draws 500 watts on its highest power setting ? If so, can you please tell me the exact brand/model of your ac unit ? Ty
I saw 1040 watts (he mentions near end of video). Unless I missed what you're referencing.
@@MrMice... Ty....I did not hear that. 1040 watts is a high draw, for 8000 btu window unit. It should only be around 800 watts.
Pecron is horrifically unreliable! I had FOUR units in a ROW that were defective, unreliable, and had to be returned within WEEKS of receiving them.
Do NOT waste your money on Pecron! Yes, the pricing and features are attractive, but when it dies completely or partially dies, you will be very upset.
That’s the only downside. Pecron customer support is horrible. I’ve had two e300s that would clip out at 200 watts even though the inverter is rated at 600 watts. Customer support said they were working normally.
Was planning on getting a bluetti ac300 until I got ripped off with their mystery box. I think this is a great option put against the oupes mega 3
I've always wondered about their mystery boxes. What did you get in yours?
@@Bamabrute85 a cpap power bank that uses nmc cells, a charge brick and no usb c ports or fast charge ports basically a bad cell phone power bank
@@tundatime were they even made by Bluetti?
What’s the dual sided xt60 solar input cable used for?
There's an option in the Input/Output Settings menu where you can put the XT60 INPUTS into a Parallel state, which would allow you pull up to 40A from a single MC4 input, rather than 20A from 2 separate inputs. Might give you more cabling/connection options to avoid clipping without having to run extra cables and split your array into 2 strings.
If you split one mc4 cable connection into two xt60 outputs wouldn’t it reduce the amps not increase it? Two into one would increase it but one into two would reduce it? Maybe we’re saying the same thing?
Do you know if you can take their smaller units that have enough wattage to power what we need, buy 2 or 3 and hook together to expand the n]battery capacity? That way, you get this smaller, lighter for us old bad back guys, but stackable? If not, it is a little trouble but we could have all 2-3 precharged, use one and as they discharge, have solar to slow it, then when one dies, hook up #2, put the dead one on charge, etc? Just a recent idea since the larger units are heavy for me, expensive to start, etc. any thoughts? Thanks
I was just thinking as you mentioned the light missing, couldn’t we just plug in a nightlight with a switch? Have you had any interaction with support after the sale?
Great review, I read that on some of the other pecron models the solar controller had a slow startup or something like that. What was your experience with this one? From your video it doesn't look like that was a problem. This one checks all the boxes for me and I've been waiting on a good review, like yours, before I pull the trigger. I've got 400 watts on top of my van and I was planning on buying their 500 watt car charger to put in the other controller when I'm driving. Have you reviewed the car charger yet?
Yeah I didn't notice anything particularly slow on the charge controller...seemed typical to me. :) And yeah I actually have received the Pecron car charger, but just havent been able to get to it yet! I'll try and do that soon. Thank for reminding me!
Do you know if this qualifies for the Residential Green Energy 30% Tax Credit Program?
Great review. Was hoping for more on the touch screen interface and the app but glad to finally have some first hand info. In your video and some pics Jasonoid posted, those temps cannot be correct. Have you communicated with pecron about this? May need a firmware update in the near future.
Don't worry, ReeWray Outdoors's engineering machine needs to be manually adjusted to °C or °F. we are very sorry for the inconvenience, but the machine received by the customer will automatically match the symbol.
Good eye on that temp reading! Actually I did have an exchange with Pecron on that and they assured me it was due to small coding issue in the pre-release firmware my review unit is running where that particular Units label was hard-coded to display C, even when the units are configured for F....so the real value was 100F, not 100C. They've assured me that bug was fixed in the final shipping version.
Does this unit allow for firmware upgrades via Wi-Fi?
Also, do you know what kind of cable could be used to transfer power from the Pecron 3600 out of the 12 V 30 amp DC output plug to another power station such as an Ecoflow Delta Pro? Is there such thing as an XT-60 to XT-60 plug?
Great video! When dual-charging, can you PRIORITIZE solar, when it is available? TIA!
I don't think so...at least not in the pre-release v1 firmware my unit has.
Pretty sure it does this automatically
Have you ever owned any of their other power stations? I’m very interested but a little concerned about pre ordering unless it only charges when they ship?
I have 5 of their power stations they are reputable. I had one that had a bad charge controller they sent me a new one. They have good customer service as well.
Great review -- thank you! I have 4 Harbor Freight 100W solar panels. Can i configure them for this or do I need new panels? If so, what rating and how many do you recommend? (I have the E2000 LFP with 2 batteries. Never had good luck with solar recharging on that one. It seemed to take FOREVER and only got 200-250W.) And, I will need new batteries for the e3600LFP since I don't want to be a goober and use 24V on 3600LFP and blow up my house! :) Thank you!
@@GBucPigBob you could string those 4 100W panels in series and connect them
I just bought a 3600lfp and 4 solar panels. They haven’t been delivered yet.
I bought them to supplement my two electric vehicles and a third very soon. If those panels start producing more electricity then I need for the vehicles, is there some battery unit they sell to store the extra electricity ?
Seems unlikely that you'll produce more power than you need for your EVs with just 4 solar panels :P But they do have a battery expansion option for this E3600LFP. www.pecron.com/products/pecron-ep3000-expansion-battery-3072wh#ref=110
Hello, I just received my 3600lfp this morning. I had a hard time logging into the app, it was a pain in the butt, but I finally got it. I can’t get it off military time. Can anyone help?
Theres a place in the settings to change it
Any suggestions on solar panels that will work well with this for household use?
For household use, I'd definitely go with rigid panels so you can keep them out in the weather without worrying about it. As far as which specific brand/model - doesn't matter a whole lot, really, as long as your configuration keeps below the max 150V input on both XT60 connectors. Where to buy will depend on how many panels you're looking to buy. Signature Solar is great, but they typically require a minimum of 10 panels, unless you live in TX and can pick them up. BougeRV has a good 200W option in the TopCon N-Type series and you can buy them 1 at a time if you want.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors great! Thanks for the info. I can't wait to get the 3600!
3500 cycles would mean cylindrical cells, can't buck bang here Pecron don't ship down under!
How was the brisket? Where's that video? 😋
First brisket was a 7 out of 10...mostly because I didn't pick the best cut from the store (didn't know what I didn't know) :P But I am starting another channel soon that will be more topic diverse. So maybe I'll end up doing some grill stuff there. haha
29:10 What’s needed to get 240v AC? Two base units plus a phase combiner/outlet box?
Yeah it'll be a box with an L14-30R on it, and 2 cables coming off of it that connec to the TT-30R ports on the main units - which would have a sync cable between them (connecting to that RJ45 port on the left side).
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you! And extra thanks for including the spec details. I was hoping for a NEMA 14-50 capability.... I was unable to find info from Pecron about this capability. Link?? 🙏
@737smartin yeah since it's a 30A max, they're using the L14-30R. You could get an adapter cable to the L14-50 but you're obviously stuck with the 30A max.
Could this start a 2.5 ton central air unit without sift start?
It should if you use two and the 240 volt converter box. But I would still recommend installing a soft start. Less startup surge helps the compressor last longer and saves energy upon startup.
Nice, but when will the European 230V version be available?
The European version is only available on outdated models ☹.
The European 230V version should always be available immediately for new models.
They will just take your money and deliver after 3 months.
Pretty much and you have to take a day off from work when it arrives because it will be FEDEX signature required delivery.
The AC efficiency is most likely due to the 48V system
@everydaycarry1328 true...but even among other 48V units, this one netted more usable capacity as a % of rated than nearly any other units I've tested.
How tall is this unit? I wonder if it will fit under the bed in my van.
At the tallest point, it is 13.75". I hope that helps!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you so much.
Sorry if I missed it, what's the amp limit per xt60 string?
20A is the max
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I'm curious how they limit input then, because for example 120 volts at 20 amps would be 2400 watts on 1 xt60. Maybe I'm not fully understanding some part of this haha
Link is dead
which link? I just tried all of them and they all seem to work for me.
What kind of 8000 btu ac did you use that only uses 600 watts? Can you post a link of where you bought it? Thanks
It actually will pull just over 1000W when running full-out, but in the clip you were seeing it wasn't running at max power yet. But this is the one I was using: www.newair.com/products/newair-12-000-btu-portable-air-conditioner-8-000-btu-doe-modern-ac-design-with-easy-setup-window-venting-kit-self-evaporative-system-quiet-operation-dehumidifying-mode-with-remote-and-timer
So this is more than twice the price of the $706 280AH Licitti 1000W AC Battery Box PRO ?
The Licitti is a neat setup but doesnt have very much going for it besides battery capacity. Very low solar input, non expandable, no wifi app, less AC outputs etc.
If I just want a battery back up then your 700 dollar is the go-to
Of like me,.you depend on the solar input pecrin rocks all the boxes
How munch is this system
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another great review! did i miss your review of the ecoflow dpu when doing a search? now that i’d like to see you do.
Hey Reewray...thanks for the info you provide! What do you prefer between this Pecron and the Dabbson DBS 3600? I've narrowed it down between these 2. Thanks!!!!
Always good and detailed reviews. You and Jasonoid are the best. Have you tested the AmpAura Purea 3?