Stroking A 5.0L Small Block Ford to 347 C.I. - Engine Power S2, E8

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2019
  • On this episode of Engine Power, the team gets started on Project Black & Blue Stage I. They make big street/strip power on a budget by stroking a stock 5.0L small block Ford to 347.
    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
    Air Flow Research: Cylinder Heads, Competition Porting, Aluminum, Assembled, 58cc Chamber, 195cc Intake, Ford, Small Block, Pair
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1723
    ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1717
    ARP: Harmonic Balancer Bolt, Chromoly, Black Oxide, 12-Point, Ford, V8, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1740
    ARP: Oil Pump Driveshaft, Ford, 221-302, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1741
    ATI Performance Products: Harmonic Balancer, Super Damper, Internal Balance, Aluminum, Steel, Ford, 289, 302, 351C, 351M, 351W, 400
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1738
    ATI Performance Products: Timing Pointer, Billet Aluminum, Black Anodized, Adjustable, Ford, Small Block, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1739
    Dorman Products: Timing Cover, 1-Piece, Aluminum, Natural, Ford, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1721
    Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Gloss, Ford Blue, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1744
    Eagle Specialty Products: Engine Rotating Assembly, Competition,(ESP)Forged Crank, Forged Mahle Pistons, H-Beam Rods, Ford, Small Block, Kit
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1729
    Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Victor Jr, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Ford, 4.7L, 5.0L, Each
    More Info:
    Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Timing Cover, Cork/Rubber, Ford, Small Block, Kit
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1736
    Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Manifold, Intake, Stock Port, Ford, 302/351W, Set
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1737
    Hooker Headers: Headers, Super Competition, Full-Length, Steel, Painted, Ford, Mercury, Pair
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1749
    Lunati: Cam & Lifters, 351W, V292HR10
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1724
    Lunati: Rocker Arms, Voodoo, Full Roller, Aluminum, Black, 3/8 in. Stud Size, 1.6 Ratio, Ford, Set of 16
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1725
    Lunati: Billet Timing Set 9-Key 302HO/351W
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1726
    Melling: Camshaft Thrust, Plate, Steel, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 302, 351W, Late Model Style, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1735
    Melling: Oil Pump, High-Volume, Ford, 221/255/260/289/302, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1734
    Moroso: Street/Strip Oil Pan, Ford 289-302, Kicked-Out Sump, Front Wet Sump, 7-quart capacity, 8" Depth, Black Powdercoated finish
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1730
    Moroso: Oil Pickup, Bolt-In, Aftermarket Pan Style, Ford, 289-302, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1732
    Moroso: Main Cap Girdle, Steel, Ford, 289/302, Kit
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1731
    MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, 289-302, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1742
    MSD Ignition: Distributor Gear, Aluminum, Bronze, Race, .466 in. Diameter Shaft, Ford, 289, 302, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1743
    Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 750 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1728
    Royal Purple: Assembly Lube, Max-Tuff, Synthetic, 8 oz., Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1733
    Spectre Performance: Extraflow Breather Black
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1746
    Summit Racing: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 2-Bolt Mains, 4.030 in. Diameter Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, Ford, Small Block, 302
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1720
    Summit Racing: Water Neck, Gasket, Steel, Chrome, 90 degree, Ford, Small Block Windsor, Each
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1745
    Summit Racing: Valve Covers, Tall, Die-cast, Aluminum, Black, 347 C.I. Stroker, Ford, Small Block, Pair
    More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1722
    Dake: Arbor Presses - Ratchet Leverage, 3T
    Spectre Performance: Extraflow HPR Air Cleaner 14 In. x 5 In. - Black
    The Industrial Depot: Industrial Depot - Fasteners, Hardware, And Shop Supplies
    Unleashed Custom Machining: 1 Inch Lightweight Tapered Blend 4150 Carburetor Spacer
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  • @PowerNationTV
    @PowerNationTV  Před 4 lety +114

    We'll continue to post these episodes here on CZcams. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power

    • @josephklimchock5412
      @josephklimchock5412 Před 4 lety +2

      What was the final build cost?....Is it less than a Ford Motorsports new performance engine?

    • @sammyvices2547
      @sammyvices2547 Před 4 lety +1

      Please build a stroked out 351W to 410 on fuel injection with twisted wedge heads

    • @gregmyatt9932
      @gregmyatt9932 Před 4 lety +1

      PowerNation would love to see a similar build done on a 302 with cleveland heads. The high revving little 302 is sweet music to my ears.

    • @springwoodslasher79
      @springwoodslasher79 Před 4 lety

      That's 225 hp and 300 torque. Get it right.

    • @jnljnl8485
      @jnljnl8485 Před 4 lety

      You should turn this into a clevor next . just to compair the power defrence between the heads.

  • @quadrider3013
    @quadrider3013 Před 3 lety +220

    Wow, That young amish man sure knows a lot about engines.

  • @jeffweaver7011
    @jeffweaver7011 Před 4 lety +119

    I love these little Fords. They are low deck, lightweight, and fit in a small engine bay. You can low budget one and get 300 - 350 horsepower with the stock heads. Use main cap studs or a girdle for high rpm. This is a cool build. Excellent job guys .

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +5

      Just dont push them much past 500hp though I suppose that girdle helps

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety +12

      Jeff Weaver there are people using stock everything inside and outside these engines in stock eliminator class getting over 400 HP with a stock lift super long duration custom csm

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety +2

      1320crusier I would weld the girdle on after torqing it down to keep any slipping from happening

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +7

      ​@@spankthemonkey3437 if youre twisting the girdled mains you have other issues.

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety +1

      1320crusier too much power

  • @christianibarra9438
    @christianibarra9438 Před 3 lety +20

    Such a small engine, but has a heart of a lion! Love Ford!

  • @BustedWalletGarage
    @BustedWalletGarage Před 4 lety +446

    “ we’re calling this build ‘Little Black & Blue’ because it’s going to be guilty of domestic violence against your wallet “

    • @robsorgdrager8477
      @robsorgdrager8477 Před 4 lety +26

      Show me a big power n/a Ford small windsor build that don't.
      You think this build is expensive, try the same thing on a 318 mope ...I mean there is not a reason as the 318 and 360 are very close in hight. A 302 is a very short deck engine that's the reason for the stroker kit. So it cost a lot to play the displacement game. It's not like going forced induction is that much cheaper plus to build a small windsor to live a long life of being beat you need to make sure the machining and assembly are good even on a simple bolt on turbo kit. If you want to skirt some of the fancy things you can. I'd start with a 99-2000 explorer 5.0 and keep the edis ( electronic distributorless ignition ) run a crank trigger, use good heads , good nitrous cam and a msd box. Pill it till ya kill it and go get another junk yard block.

    • @BustedWalletGarage
      @BustedWalletGarage Před 4 lety +13

      Rob Sorgdrager look at some of my old videos and you’ll see me rebuilding a Ford 5.0 using an old car tire as an engine stand.

    • @JoeyGarcia
      @JoeyGarcia Před 4 lety +11

      Quit crying!! Try building a Mopar! I'll cost you twice as much, and with less than half of the parts availability!

    • @simplyfred8044
      @simplyfred8044 Před 4 lety +10

      Love my 347. But still pounding the dent out of my wallet. Lol. Great engine.

    • @robsorgdrager8477
      @robsorgdrager8477 Před 4 lety +14

      @@BustedWalletGarage dude, I've been a mechanic and carguy since 97...I'm also not rich😕. I've used come alongs and a tree to pull engines, I like using tires to rest engines and trans'es on. I did a engine swap out the bottom of a Ford focus with Jack stands, a floor jack on class 5 ...that one required many many beers. I feel ya holms a good mechanic is like a marine...get the job done using what's at hand. 😊

  • @davidlopez7209
    @davidlopez7209 Před 4 lety +62

    Built using off the shelf parts, $10k later. At least they had the decency not to call it a budget build. Nice motor though.

    • @johnl9977
      @johnl9977 Před 3 měsíci

      I had a 69' Mach 1 with a built 351 Windsor and that motor was pretty stout. Why not just throw the top end on a 351 without the expense of a stroker?

  • @michaelgiglio1571
    @michaelgiglio1571 Před rokem +6

    Ignition timings sounded perfect. See how nice a V8 can run with the distributor at the front, 💥

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 Před 3 lety +13

    Wow, the first 5.0 build in a while that invested in a girdle on a late 50 block. Smart move. Killer engine.

  • @ziggybammurphy191
    @ziggybammurphy191 Před 4 lety +4

    I wish i went to automotive school....i just watch and enjoy tinkering with engines for a hobby.....ive made good money for the last 13 years as an electrical lineman, but my heart has always been with engines and cars....

  • @rrarms3159
    @rrarms3159 Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent job and approach guys, thank you very much for your show! :-) Part list for your builds are incredible addition to all of us who dream about assembling own engine :-) BIG Thumbs up! :-)

  • @SamuelHollandsh
    @SamuelHollandsh Před 4 lety +5

    Wow, what a nice video with attention to detail and the small block is really nice. Thanks

  • @LA_Commander
    @LA_Commander Před rokem +3

    WOW, that might not be the most powerful motor I've ever seen, but it definitely is the BEST SOUNDING motor I've ever heard!

  • @AJ1990.
    @AJ1990. Před 3 lety +1

    Having these guys do a ground up build for you would be a dream come true man.
    These guys have done hundreds of builds, and I have yet to see them half ass a build. The enthusiasm and passion for their work is what it's all about man. Its inspired me to pick up a wrench and start teaching myself.

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 Před 4 lety +3

    That is one sweet, smooth running engine. I could listen to it purr all day long.

  • @carloscolon1009
    @carloscolon1009 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank You for sharing your wisdom. I love your show and your enthusiasm.

  • @CrzyMav
    @CrzyMav Před 4 lety +8

    I love these small block Fords. That’s all I built back in the late 80’s-90’s. These little engines are Bullit proof that’s why Carol Shelby loved them on his cars.

  • @gregrogers3030
    @gregrogers3030 Před 4 lety +3

    Sweet build you guys!!!!

  • @car-man
    @car-man Před 4 lety +43

    I run the car maintenance CZcams channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

    • @CameronLegend
      @CameronLegend Před 4 lety

      자동차의 모든 것[ Car & Man ] I’ll be in Korea in a few months, let’s collaborate 💪🏾

    • @roberthusk3402
      @roberthusk3402 Před 3 lety +2

      Thats creepy, do u wanna blow them

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em Před 2 lety

      @@roberthusk3402 sounds like a love letter 💌

  • @ImTheJoker4u
    @ImTheJoker4u Před 3 lety +2

    I LOVE attention to detail. If you find a shop like that, give them ALL the business. "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten".

  • @57ozcar
    @57ozcar Před 4 lety +1

    My first V8 was a 221 Windsor. Love what you have done to the 302.

  • @maynardreed4036
    @maynardreed4036 Před 4 lety +17

    I'm not really a ford guy, but that is pretty impressive.

  • @michaelbenoit248
    @michaelbenoit248 Před 4 lety +185

    Me: "Wow 500HP 447FTLBS of torque naturally asperated."
    Inner Me. "Now turbo it."

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +60

      annnnddd... now you have 2 4 cylinder blocks..lol

    • @_M_-mg3ix
      @_M_-mg3ix Před 4 lety +2

      Michael Benoit for real tonaaah

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety +3

      1320crusier yea he will turn it into two engines.

    • @thedon3836
      @thedon3836 Před 4 lety +6

      Nope not with a stock block 347 kit. A 331 sure, better rod angle better rotational harmonics etc but you don't wanna run even 650hp threw a stock HO block they have a tendancy of splitting in half at the lifter valley. With the poor harmonics and radical rod angle of a 347 in a stock block I dout you could run 5lbs boost or even 560hp at the crank before she split in half.

    • @mattgarkus2489
      @mattgarkus2489 Před 4 lety +10

      Turbo a v8? Disgusting
      Put a blower and get better performance

  • @2ndsspz
    @2ndsspz Před měsícem +1

    this build was pre covid, thanks Joe

  • @AdamAndersonFL
    @AdamAndersonFL Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed watching this build. GOod job

  • @kimcokevin
    @kimcokevin Před 4 lety +4

    Loving the blue oval content!

  • @Rudderify
    @Rudderify Před 4 lety +8

    Nice numbers! Looking forward to stage 2.

  • @NewtonWashinton
    @NewtonWashinton Před 4 lety +2

    Nice build Guys!

  • @philthyco1
    @philthyco1 Před 4 lety +2

    Great motor..I hand one similar in my 67' Cougar ..With the Scat stroker kit and a Blue Chip Racing wolverine cam

  • @MegaScott
    @MegaScott Před 4 lety +3

    Forgot to mention the crank rear seal installation and they didn't check the clearance between the oil pickup and the bottom of the oil pan, a major fubar since this is very important to be sure the oil pan does not suck up to the pickup. The composite distributor gear would have been a better choice to use versus the Bronze gear. The bronze gear will need replaced after a while of use, where the composite gear will not wear like the bronze gear will. Lots of excitement getting 500hp, when for about the same cost you could have built a 408 stroker and easily exceeded 500hp.

  • @jamiemuncy2219
    @jamiemuncy2219 Před 4 lety +39

    Now this is why I’m Ford to the core💯 Check this out, 507hp on a 8.2 deck pump gas engine!! That’s something for your arsenal 💯💯👍🏻👍🏻💯💯

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 Před rokem

    GREAT VIDEO AND A GREAT BUILD!!! THANK YOU SUMMIT RACING!!!!!

  • @johnsmith-qz4bv
    @johnsmith-qz4bv Před 4 lety +2

    great work guys

  • @jeremyrios433
    @jeremyrios433 Před 4 lety +4

    Need this motor bad!!!

  • @AmericanThunder
    @AmericanThunder Před 4 lety +7

    Sticking with a 332" (3.25" x 4.030") ends up making more power and being generally more durable than the larger 347" stroker due to the better rod to stroke ratio. I run custom length 5.5" rods in my 332", so the rod to stroke ratio is 1.69:1, which is what a stock 302 has. Longer piston dwell times and less piston side load on the cylinder walls means more efficiency and longevity. Also, when building a stroker, (or any high hp 302) the pre-1983(you can tell from the 2-piece rear seal vs 1-piece rear seal) 302 blocks weigh 120 lbs, whereas their newer counterparts only weigh 80 lbs. That extra 40 lbs of cast material was removed mostly from the main bearing support area of the block in the new castings, and Ford did that to help lighten the nose on the Mustang fox bodies for better handling. The end result is, a heavier older 302 block can "reliably" handle upwards of 800-850hp, while the newer 5.0 blocks can only deal with 450-500 before they fail.(that's assuming you run a billet steel main stud girdle)
    p.s. The Race Demon carb series were tested on a dyno vs various performance fuel injection systems, and the Race Demons actually made more HP and much to the surprise of everyone, also outperformed fuel injection on low end torque too. Barry Grant knows how to build a carb. This is why I always suggest the Barry Grant RD carbs over any other Holley style carb.

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před 3 lety

      Thanks for the info. Would you mind sharing more please?

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 Před 11 měsíci

      I never could believe the 5.0 blocks could handle so little

  • @deanwaring6100
    @deanwaring6100 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏

  • @mymusic684
    @mymusic684 Před 4 lety +1

    The valve covers are amazing

  • @pimpovic2
    @pimpovic2 Před 4 lety +3

    16:00 that sound on deceleration. Nice.

  • @andrewbrown755
    @andrewbrown755 Před 4 lety +16

    Impressive hp per cubic inch!

    • @289pinto
      @289pinto Před 4 lety +4

      @@mewrongway and any onther makes bulid would all be made by the oem manufacturer right... Yeah, dumbass.

  • @codyfeatherstone553
    @codyfeatherstone553 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow that thing is amazing

  • @joshuamoore24_7
    @joshuamoore24_7 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice job that Ford Frankenstein 347 stroker engine build!!!!

  • @wyattsullivan6355
    @wyattsullivan6355 Před 4 lety +112

    DO A 4.9 LITER/300 INLINE 6 BUILD!!!!!!!

    • @2012lucasb
      @2012lucasb Před 4 lety +5

      They did.

    • @wyattsullivan6355
      @wyattsullivan6355 Před 4 lety +8

      @@2012lucasb Are you thinking of the slant six? 4.9 isnt slanted and is a far far way better motor

    • @black98rt
      @black98rt Před 4 lety +4

      Be interesting to see but man those motors were dogs.

    • @wyattsullivan6355
      @wyattsullivan6355 Před 4 lety +2

      @@black98rt Oh yeah I drive one everyday itd be cool to see one set up for performance by these two.

    • @jasonwilson6658
      @jasonwilson6658 Před 4 lety +1

      4 barrel holley. Duel pumper

  • @chasevans7171
    @chasevans7171 Před 4 lety +3

    Great to see as I'm in the middle of doing a 347 build. The "order up some pushrods they'll be with you next day" thing unfortunately not so easy if you live in the UK. More like three weeks. And then there's duty to pay on top of shipping before you can actually take delivery. (Expensive). We do have some really good helpful American speed parts stockists here in the UK but they can't stock everything a huge US company like summit can unfortunately.

    • @gregmyatt9932
      @gregmyatt9932 Před 4 lety

      Chas Evans yeah i know how you feel. Im in Oz and its the same hassles but you wait 2 months for stuff to get here, then its wrong and have to send it back. Plus its triple the price compared to US.

  • @buckbuck9225
    @buckbuck9225 Před 4 lety +1

    Great show

  • @tonyking4725
    @tonyking4725 Před 3 lety +1

    Thats a mean lil 302 great jobs guys awesome power from a lil 302

  • @andrewinsinga2993
    @andrewinsinga2993 Před 4 lety +5

    Wow you guy's didn't degree the camshaft!!

  • @393strokedcoupe
    @393strokedcoupe Před 4 lety +4

    Awesome results. I'd love to see you guys do a street/strip, more street, 393 Windsor with a stock block. My block is the slightly shorter deck height 9.480" version out of a 69 Torino. From what I understand the main girdle webbings are thicker too. I'm trying for 10.5 to 11 to 1 compression.

    • @buckykattguitar
      @buckykattguitar Před 4 lety

      393stroker I did exactly that for my 68 Fairlane! She's a beast.

    • @393strokedcoupe
      @393strokedcoupe Před 4 lety

      @@buckykattguitar What heads and induction did you end up going with?

    • @LarryLunsford
      @LarryLunsford Před 5 měsíci

      good. job. for. 302 ,,347,,bad. hot. rod

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Před 2 lety +1

    This engine dropped into a small bumper 1970-1972 Maverick would literally be SCARY!!
    I REALLY want to own another Ford Maverick of any year before I put my tools down for the final time. Short wheelbase and 2800-2900 pounds from the factory with MANY areas to drop several hundred more pounds of weight. It's basically THE perfect drag car!

  • @pickuptrucker17
    @pickuptrucker17 Před 2 lety

    You guys crack me up, nice work!

  • @stang3028
    @stang3028 Před 4 lety +20

    I’ll take one for a donation for my 67 fastback just saying

  • @rodericklewis832
    @rodericklewis832 Před 4 lety +17

    I would love to see what you guys could do with a 5.2 magnum 318

    • @jasonwilson6658
      @jasonwilson6658 Před 4 lety +1

      340 heads rv cam

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 4 lety

      400 HP 318?: www.hotrod.com/articles/318-small-block-build

    • @jonthomsen7433
      @jonthomsen7433 Před 2 lety +1

      There is a guy running 10.80s in his barracuda with a 318 fourspeed. The most underrated engine mopar ever buikt

  • @pranays
    @pranays Před 3 lety +1

    I'm 45 and I finally learned you can girdle 2 bot mains.
    Thanks.

  • @paulnewman2778
    @paulnewman2778 Před 3 lety +2

    So glad PN is back. Saturdays have not been the same once they started messing with the talent and program style.

  • @mustangfan5108
    @mustangfan5108 Před 4 lety +4

    I don’t know if the Engine Power guys read this, or if the PowerNation guys can let them know this, but can we possibly see a Hemi build at some point?

  • @jamram7825
    @jamram7825 Před 3 lety +4

    Did u hear that engine sounded bad ass, wish I could fit this on my daily fuel efficient saturn sl1 95 it would be a sleeper

    • @RyanBenbow
      @RyanBenbow Před 25 dny

      It would bend it in half. Don't do it ❌

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 Před rokem

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! TOTALLY AWESOME BUILD FOR A DAILY DRIVER!!!! A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THIS MOTOR!!! SUPERCHARGER SUGGESTION!!!!!

  • @bluespig1
    @bluespig1 Před 4 lety +1

    We had these in Australia for years, originally casting our own and then returning to USA stock in the 1990's. In 2002, the Falcon XR8 5.0i was producing 297hp & 435nm with factory exhaust. A good set of pipes & exhaust easily added 30hp. Good fun with the Tremec 5 speed and LSD.

  • @dsiner1obslifedziner157
    @dsiner1obslifedziner157 Před 4 lety +8

    5.0 HO 🏁🏁🏁

  • @nicks.6577
    @nicks.6577 Před 4 lety +5

    What about checking the intake clearance between it and the 'China walls"? I had an issue with mine being too big, had to get .030 shaved off the intake runners to lower the intake into the wedge created by the cylinder heads. This was need due to the decking of the block (.010), which changed the geometry of the cylinder head placement relative to each other and the intake.
    Overall, I wish I never took on building a Windsor 302. I thought it was a good motor until realizing its great deficiencies of main webbing strength (almost all stock blocks crack) and its small deck height creates major side-loading issues that prematurely wear out the cylinder bores in stroked applications. If you must build a stroker' Windsor, use the .030 pistons and a slightly less radical stroke than what the 347 requires to minimize side-loading. 347's require your piston compression height to be so small that your require a ring bridge to support the oil rings, makes you wonder about if exaggerating the stroke so much to get to 347ci is worth it long-term.

  • @dogmandan79
    @dogmandan79 Před 3 lety

    Could watch this all day. Wish I had somewhere to work/build engines at.

  • @Johans60
    @Johans60 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the bleu distr. cap

  • @wyattyeary8050
    @wyattyeary8050 Před 4 lety +18

    For a bunch of Chevy guys they seem pretty impressed with the ford. Was beginning to think this was a Chevy biased channel.

    • @Etruscan70
      @Etruscan70 Před 3 lety

      Chevy small blocks are cheaper , produce more power per dollar than any manufacturer , and dominate the track and strip with by far the most factory championships. It’s a actually not even close. So naturally it appears that most people are Chevy biased, when it’s not a bias. It’s what the market dictates.

    • @wyattyeary8050
      @wyattyeary8050 Před 3 lety

      @@Etruscan70 seems very opinionated lol

    • @Etruscan70
      @Etruscan70 Před 3 lety

      the total outright domination of Factory championships , and LS engines are the most swapped out power plants in the USA by far isn’t aren’t opinions Wyatt . They’re facts. Objective much? I have well Under 5k invested in an L92 that’s making a very street-able 600+ hp on a cam swap with mildly reworked heads. That’s hard not to notice.

    • @wyattyeary8050
      @wyattyeary8050 Před 3 lety

      @@Etruscan70 still opinionated responses. Go somewhere, what about the coyote? People aren’t making 2000 horsepower with ls blocks.

    • @Etruscan70
      @Etruscan70 Před 3 lety

      @@wyattyeary8050 yeah all those NHRA championships are my opinion lol 😆.. You’re right , nobody uses the the LS platform all , very rare to see people doing LS builds , and putting them into just about everything on four wheels. LS builds are definitely more expensive than Ford , or mopar , sure thing buddy lol. Anything you say 😂.
      I like coyotes , but they only make real numbers when you strap air compressor’s on them, and how much do you think it costs to get 600hp out of one , let alone 1200hp ? You’re looking at well over 12k even if you do your own work.

  • @MikesTrackBuilding
    @MikesTrackBuilding Před 4 lety +5

    That was awesome. Something I am wondering...what is the run in procedure before you do the high rpm runs? How is that done?

  • @thomascoker3600
    @thomascoker3600 Před 3 lety +1

    that lined up lettering on the freeze plugs will give it a hundred horsepower

  • @grabir01
    @grabir01 Před 4 lety +1

    A lot of power for a small block.. Wow!!

  • @Saleen85111
    @Saleen85111 Před 4 lety +17

    Summit doesn't show that block.. they switch you to a 5K combo from this episode.. bait and switch!

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 Před 4 lety

      I'm sure availability and pricing had changed over the years since this was aired.

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 Před 4 lety +2

      All these parts new is over 5 grand now.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP Před 4 lety +1

      You can buy the 86-93 5.0 blocks all day long off craigslist, Ebay, etc. You just have to have a shop do the machine work.

    • @nicktipton5675
      @nicktipton5675 Před 4 lety +2

      @@allanb3222 I mean, it's only been 5 years.......

    • @bacchusthompson5834
      @bacchusthompson5834 Před 3 lety

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP block will split like a toothpick at this power level...

  • @andrewwihlon7419
    @andrewwihlon7419 Před 4 lety +5

    I always thought you needed to degree a cam when doing a build and not to trust dot to dot.

  • @ralphvalkenhoff2887
    @ralphvalkenhoff2887 Před 4 lety +1

    Impressive rpms on that stroke. Summit sure has a great deal on that block with all that you get.

  • @christopherhull2416
    @christopherhull2416 Před 3 lety +2

    Man, I remember Pat when I went to S.A.M. Great job

  • @alandominguez1707
    @alandominguez1707 Před 4 lety +26

    This would’ve been a cooler project if they would’ve done an efi 5.0.

    • @martingatavaski1351
      @martingatavaski1351 Před 4 lety

      Carb was just easier to test on the Dyno, a 86-93 Mustang EFI system would net same results with a good tune, n maybe even more hp n tq with the longer "upper n lower" intake runners...
      Step up to Holley efi management n numbers would definitely jump!

    • @senna138
      @senna138 Před 4 lety +3

      Naw it wouldn't sound as good as a carb. I'd miss it.

    • @anonymousanonymous9991
      @anonymousanonymous9991 Před 4 lety

      @@martingatavaski1351 Horsepower would probably come down a few points but it wouldn't increase. You wouldn't see the horsepower difference until it was boosted. EFI would have a definitive torque advantage.

    • @anonymousanonymous9991
      @anonymousanonymous9991 Před 4 lety

      @@senna138 If they used a more aggressive cam with 114 degrees of lobe separation and a high rpm intake manifold it would sound similar. I believe they build the motor for high RPM anyways, so it wouldn't change the performance much. Unless you mean the vacuum lines/distributor whirring. That cannot be replicated.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP Před 4 lety +2

      EFI is ghey.

  • @Ricks408
    @Ricks408 Před 4 lety +6

    Yo... what about that 351 Cleveland love?! 😢

  • @only1true540
    @only1true540 Před 4 lety +2

    Hey good job guys 👏🏿

  • @78mrdad
    @78mrdad Před 3 lety +1

    Love them little small block fords

  • @brandonmccollum6349
    @brandonmccollum6349 Před 4 lety +3

    7k rpm runs + stock block + 500 hp/tq = kaboom

    • @Odin3v
      @Odin3v Před 4 lety

      No it doesnt you idiot.

  • @chadharmon5716
    @chadharmon5716 Před 4 lety +5

    Need one to replace my old 99 explorer 5.0 stat lol

    • @joekeys9021
      @joekeys9021 Před 4 lety

      That's what I'm thinking lol

    • @HaynesJP
      @HaynesJP Před 4 lety

      I built a 302 with Explorer heads I ported and polished, put it in an 89 Hatchback and ran a 12.22@112mph. Fun little motor, surprised a lot of people.

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před 3 lety

      @@HaynesJP
      That's it? What cam?

    • @HaynesJP
      @HaynesJP Před 3 lety

      X Mo thats it? You can’t be serious.
      It was a custom grind from Camshaft Innovations. .571/.574 on a 114 LSA I believe.

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před 3 lety

      @@HaynesJP
      You made it seem simple so I asked a simple question. I can assemble an engine but I haven't a clue about parts selection.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 Před 4 lety +1

    This was the first engine these guys have built. True story. They did pretty good for a first attempt...

  • @dufus2273
    @dufus2273 Před 4 lety

    I like that . everything was right. those 205 runners help I've got a 302 and a 3.40 crank. I think ill build it like this.

  • @jeffstevens664
    @jeffstevens664 Před 4 lety +6

    Why would you not degree the cam to get that cam inline with spec.

    • @johnhamblin12201
      @johnhamblin12201 Před 4 lety +2

      This drives me crazy about this show. They do every trick in the book when it comes to a chevy. but they spend thousands on this engine and don't use an adjustable timing set. if It was a chevy they would have.

    • @strictlybusiness1598
      @strictlybusiness1598 Před 4 lety

      @@johnhamblin12201 the timing set has multiple keyways on the crank gear to adjust intake centerline. I'm positive this cam was put exactly where they wanted it.

    • @traeheck3614
      @traeheck3614 Před 4 lety

      The cam was 4 degrees advanced.

    • @jeffstevens664
      @jeffstevens664 Před 4 lety

      @@bigboreracing356 how do you know we build super late model engines for runing in nascar i have seen deg a cam put out up to 30hp.

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bigboreracing356 For all we know they degreed the cam and didn't show us. It takes a little time to do.

  • @noahrodeghiero9640
    @noahrodeghiero9640 Před 4 lety +5

    Thats alot of RTV on those china rails

    • @dntlss
      @dntlss Před 3 lety

      I tell you something funny,Ive been around engines as long as i could walk and ive never heard anyone call them that,lol, learn something new every day, i myself love the little blue rubber gaskets that come in some kits,man those things are nice,cork gaskets suck bad.

  • @livingwaters7841
    @livingwaters7841 Před 4 lety +1

    love engine builds...

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 Před 4 lety +1

    Great show, watching in Australia. Love the Windsors. Making that kind or pwr/tqe with a late 5.0 block is a bit of a worry. The girdle was good idea.

  • @luketeverino6085
    @luketeverino6085 Před 4 lety +36

    Arp studs for the intake and oilpan but not for the heads or crank?

    • @rickylawson6588
      @rickylawson6588 Před 4 lety +5

      Luke Teverino it's all arp hardware

    • @ItsJoshN
      @ItsJoshN Před 4 lety +2

      The heads of the studs on all the main caps and the girdle looked like arp

    • @crashcourseinbruhsurgery
      @crashcourseinbruhsurgery Před 4 lety +5

      Using ARP studs is basically a given.

    • @luketeverino6085
      @luketeverino6085 Před 4 lety +1

      Nazty604 they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

    • @luketeverino6085
      @luketeverino6085 Před 4 lety

      ricky Lawson they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

  • @hereinmissoula11
    @hereinmissoula11 Před 4 lety +4

    1 5/8 header was too small. 1 3/4 will pickup power , maybe over 15... also vict jr's are not very good out of the box... try a super victor instead, will also give you 15 more...

  • @dntlss
    @dntlss Před 3 lety

    Man that's a beautiful engine.

  • @bluespig1
    @bluespig1 Před 4 lety +2

    Great build. My Australian 2001 model Falcon has a 300hp 5.0i Windsor as standard. A set of AFR heads might be just the ticket.

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před 3 lety

      Is that the same engine as the Ford Explorer in the states?

  • @johnhamblin12201
    @johnhamblin12201 Před 4 lety +7

    I love this show but.... They drive me crazy when it comes to ford stuff. Using studs for the intake but not mains or heads, spending thousands on high quality parts but not an adjustable timing set like they usually would on a chevy, using lunati with dog bone retainers instead of a good comp tie bar (yes I know they're a sponsor but so is comp) and spinning it to 6500? what is up with that, still wasn't nosing over. 400hp from a cam and head swap isn't a big deal with a regular 5.0 let alone spending thousands for 100 horse. So frustrating

    • @jeanvi52
      @jeanvi52 Před 4 lety

      It’s because it’s the stage 1 build

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety +3

      Baggerz Anonymous they have people getting over 400 hp with stock everything inside and outside the engine in stock eliminator class. Actually the cam is the only change it's a stock lift super long duration cam. Those 5.0 ho are good engines

  • @HammerHeadGarage
    @HammerHeadGarage Před 4 lety +6

    A roller 351 would crush this engine for alot less money.

    • @xmo552
      @xmo552 Před 3 lety

      @Steve Hicks
      Damn Hicks did you see how many grammar and spelling errors you spat out? That aint don't quiet werk fer mush in yer faver.
      😡

  • @ericfitzpatrick5319
    @ericfitzpatrick5319 Před rokem

    I love this motor!!!

  • @lewissilvio4740
    @lewissilvio4740 Před 4 lety

    What a job !!

  • @jimcatx3090
    @jimcatx3090 Před 4 lety +5

    Who uses a impact gun installing rod caps and no lube on the camshaft I’m glad I built my motor

    • @thatmarred_mustang
      @thatmarred_mustang Před 4 lety +1

      They did use lube on the cam. They didnt say it but you could see it.

    • @jimcatx3090
      @jimcatx3090 Před 4 lety

      Bucking Bronco was it clear I always use red thick sticky assembly lube adding it as it goes in they are not engine builders there on tv there hands aren’t even dirty

    • @thatmarred_mustang
      @thatmarred_mustang Před 4 lety +1

      @@jimcatx3090 I mean 🤷‍♂️ its whatever man. Yeah, it was clear

  • @marcusc102
    @marcusc102 Před 4 lety +7

    Those are not 205 heads

    • @charlesc.1999
      @charlesc.1999 Před 4 lety +4

      You are right had to rewind those are afr 195

  • @gederonaldz8344
    @gederonaldz8344 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you,videos

  • @robbiefrentz9427
    @robbiefrentz9427 Před 4 lety +1

    Man things so much better than 30 years ago when i was building

  • @RoadRunner-ih4rq
    @RoadRunner-ih4rq Před 4 lety +6

    Hey Chevy lover's.... Checkmate 😆😆😆😂🤣

  • @SpooneyFranki20
    @SpooneyFranki20 Před 4 lety +6

    Needs EFI

  • @rcbustanut2057
    @rcbustanut2057 Před rokem

    That's exactly what I was looking for to put in my kids power wheels car!! 😁

  • @1negative169
    @1negative169 Před 3 lety +1

    its so clean,

  • @isuguy82
    @isuguy82 Před 4 lety +3

    Have you guys ever built a flat crank motor?

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +8

      oh oh! Idea! A Ford 427 cammer with a flat plane! That would be epic..

    • @thedon3836
      @thedon3836 Před 4 lety

      @@1320crusier no.... just..... no

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +2

      @@thedon3836 why not? a super light crank in an engine that already has a good rep.. YES PLEASE!
      Add in some other luxuries like EFI, timing gears not chains, dry sump, try-y headers, etc... would be a yummy 10-11k rpm engine.

    • @thedon3836
      @thedon3836 Před 4 lety +1

      @@1320crusier no no it wouldnt. I'll explain. 1964-1966 427 sohc aka big daddy cammer engine was built off of the FE engine block family 427 side and top oiler engine blocks. They were super rev happy being over head cam and many blew up because they had no real tells that they were being over revved like pushrod engines do as it was. They were designed for racing and having gobs of boost added to them hence the 90° crank. Flat plain cranks do not fair well with boost they snap under to much cylinder pressure. Switching to a flat plain from a 90 degree would make it rev even faster sure but it would also make them over rev faster and you would only keep it na at that point and probably less compression and power over all. Timing gears pass damaging rotational harmonics into the very hard but very brittle cams and they would shatter over 6000rpm which is why you don't see timing gears in high rpm large displacement engines and mostly only see them in low rpm diesels. All that plus your talking about an engine stock that costs more then most people's homes and that's if you can even find one. So again what you are talking about is an under educated pipe dream. Sorry but that's the truth.

    • @1320crusier
      @1320crusier Před 4 lety +2

      @@thedon3836 In dream land Comp Cams would be called on to make me some cams from modern materials.
      But no one is expecting anyone to actually build this. Though.. someone should.
      F1 engines and other race engines use gear drives.

  • @baileymcdonald5705
    @baileymcdonald5705 Před 4 lety +9

    I'd love for you guys to purposely build an engine incorrectly to show what can possibly go wrong

  • @gordoncorey8023
    @gordoncorey8023 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice job 😉💪💪🖒

  • @CrzyMav
    @CrzyMav Před 4 lety

    The technology has gotten a lot better now with these engines and parts that are now being sold.