IS PHYREXIA A TOXIC PLACE? | Kemba, Elesh Norn, Atraxa, Ixhel | Worst Possible Commander Show #47
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Guys, they arent playing on arena or with a judge. They are also using 400 unique cards in a casual format that requires you to keep track of what 3 other players are doing. You dont need to critique the cast for not doing the “optimal” thing or getting some rules wrong. Just enjoy the fun they are having. Its not a tournament. Sit back, relax, crack open a mountain dew, and enjoy the show.
I'd think that with their whole channel being about MTG and Commander, critiquing them when they get rules wrong is acceptable. Not everybody plays optimally, and that's fine, but calling out rules violations helps the people watching if nothing else.
@@OromisGlaedr their whole channel is about entertainment, and obviously they should strive to get the rules right but the game already happened, you aren’t changing anything by giving them flak in the comment section. And I want to specify I don’t think pointing out rules mistakes is inherently a bad thing but I often see people getting actually upset at the cast for making mistakes and playing sub optimal
@@lukebloom7848 Oh, yeah. I never get upset for people just having fun. I think the only time I've gotten even close to annoyed was on a prior video when they completely butchered a card effect after taking care to read it out loud slowly.
They do actually read the comments, and have made mention of it in other videos. I agree giving them flak doesn't do much, but pointing out a misplay would also potentially help them from making the same one again.
I do think there's some merit in calling out notable rules interactions that get missed, especially ones that might come up more than once. The goal of such comments can be to educate to make sure those sort of errors don't happen again, which does improve the channel's quality. I recall there were questions in an earlier video about if stolen commanders could deal commander damage, for example, and that is a very widely applicable rule so explaining that is a useful thing - and now they do it correctly!
That said, it is extremely funny seeing how many people don't bother to read cards before assuming they know how they work and commenting with an error that is entirely correct, and the "accidentally regrowthed a Farseek" thing is so minor that calling it out is ridiculous.
@@Kestral287 i have addressed a similar response earlier, but to re-iterate i dont think calling out mistakes are inherently a bad thing, but people who get legitimately upset at the cast for mistakes and/or unoptimized play are cringe.
I hope Blake can love himself as much as we the community love him! Always with the new lessons to learn.
CGB outpoisoned the poison player and out-Elesh Nornd the Elesh Norn player, but somehow after so many Episodes it no longer surprises me.
I just enjoy watching this Chanel so much. I’m glad I found it. You guys are so cool with all the salt that your guys spread around the table and still really nice friends. I love how the table turn in this game
The Vraska's Fall win con is pretty hilarious. I might have to start looking into incorporating that into a couple lists with similar strategies. I was just playing a Time Warp effect in my Atraxa Seasons Past list.
Loved seeing the new cards in action, thanks for the hard work in putting this out so quickly! Also, not to be weird lol, but love the new haircut, Ben!
Nice episode, i think we would like to see CGC draft event or Sealed event, it will be interesting to share your idea about other format in paper magic
it was awesome to see both ben and CGB do what their decks wanted to do at least once -- and especially ben. holy hell poison sneaks up on ya, its so good. and I was worried cgb at 9 poison counters wouldnt get to cast atraxa at least once but that was sick when he was finally set up and could do it
I can read your life totals in Moxtopper! I love it!
Love watching you all interact with each other
Really enjoyed the game and thanks for the nice decklists!
Epic combo! Loved it!
When CGB tells the table he is going to remove his own rhystic study, I counted his lands and just smiled and thought farewell to myself.
very entertaining episode. keep it up!
Waiting for kitty secret lair to come in, and then going to make a kitty theme commander deck. Cant wait! Love my kitties!
All of you of this cast. You're all very cool.
That "I already have 3!" by Ben was so incredibly on brand and hilarious.
What a fun game, it was really good !
your episodes are the highlight of my week. Love you guys
Weird wincon. Epic pop off. Fun game.
I'm sure you've answered this before but I'm relatively new to your channel. What app are you using for life totals? I really like the interface
MoxTopper
Thanks and keep up the amazing work. Enjoyed the episodes I've seen so far and can't wait to watch more
Great game love it when CGB does CGB things
New Atraxa + Elesh Norn + Yarok + Panharmonicon? could be fun.
This game was so good, loved it.
When is WOTC gonna make the CGB,combo player secret lair? I’ve been watching various commander shows this past year have not seen anyone go off with their combos as he does.
So fun, the toxic mechanic is a nice change of pace
Anything combat oriented is a huge plus for me, tired of seeing OTKs
that finish storm was sooo good
Noway, you guys got Sylvester Stallone on the show😮
I can’t wait to get that precon!!!
@covertgocrew someone needs to bring a laser pointer next time Shea plays a cat deck. Just point at your opponents area to see if she pounces.
Ah yes, all 4 colors of magic
could we get a link to these playmats?
Does anyone know the location of this shop? Also, does CGB own it? Thanks in advance.
As someone here from Covert Go Two, the fancy Elesh Norn from CGB shocked me
Same here
Can anyone tell me what life app they use
if a permanent without an etb enters the battlefield like an equipment, and you have etb from another card that is already in the battlefield like that dude thats drwas you cards when an artifact enter the battlefield and elesh norn is in play. does that cancel THAT trigger too?
Yes. So like Puresteel you wouldn't get to draw when an equipment etbs, but Sram you would because it's a cast trigger that happens when you cast the equipment.
Elesh Norn says "Permanents entering the battlefield don't cause abilities of permanents your opponents control to trigger". It stops all ETB effects from any permanent on your opponent's side of the field. If any permanent says "when __ enters the battlefield", it doesn't trigger.
Yes, but Sram is not on etb, it's on cast. Elesh doesn't affect it.
Thanks, i asked myself the same question. Good to have other people with better understanding for rules.
All Will Be One in our time
That’s why you always attack the atraxa on the table first lol
Anyone else know if Wotc went with kemba for the cat as a reference for kemba the white lion?
The real lesson, Blake, is that only a fool gets married when Mommy doesn't approve.
Just shooting my shot here in the comments but if anyone would like to play some fun commander games and have a good time, let me know! I'm looking to make new friends and trying to find a fun pod to play with online! (I use moxfield to play online myself)
Amazing game guys :)
I just wanna know where I can get a copy of Ben's shirt! It's amazing xD
Nasty
@@Jeremy-pf3bb What?
@@zachjohnson3871 his shit
@@Jeremy-pf3bb Shit... What are you talking about?
@@zachjohnson3871 “edited”
So how would one deck himself if he's supposed to put the cards back into the bottom of his library? He no longer had decant of Endless waters or a card that said maximum handsize infinite anymore im just lost to how he would've decked himself I would've just done demon consultation and thassa oracle
Hi guys, I’m a relatively new player and I need clarification. Ben played an Unnatural Restoration and returned Farseek to his hand. However, Farseek is a sorcery, and Unnatural Restoration states “permanent”. Are sorceries permanent?
I just wanna know what his cat can do with those weapons xD
This game was a “compleat” blow out lol
Ben your my hero 😄
in the end: all will be one
Before you buy this decklist keep in mind how little anyone interacted with cgb the most of the start. This is not likely to be most tables experience if you're not paying your friends.
True, but seeing the cards he was showing with the Atraxa flips, he had plenty of interaction. Looked like whole suite of Counterspells.
Its the Social Norn
Blake would play Panharmommycon . . .
I love watching all of these and was especially happy with this episode. I just upgraded the Ixhel precon and the poison mechanic is busted in this set. I have to be careful when playing it in my play group because it's so damn toxic. 🤣 Thank you CGC, for making me feel good to be so bad.
Mechanically or emotionally toxic?
Another good title would have been Smothering Tithes of War
doesnt sheas masterwork trigger downt draw a card because of elish norn ?
Shea's card draw was caused by Sram, Master Edificer who draws cards on casting equipments, not on etb.
So basically to beat Elesh Norn you have to play her yourself
Fight fire with fire.
lol! Phyrexian doesn't sound like a Murloc from WoW. :P
I love that they politely printed Tyrranax Rex at 7 mana, so it's not strictly better than Force of Nature.
Nice work guys, keep it up!
Combo wins are the best wins. Attacking is so uncivilized. I always re-roll my attack dailies. Well played.
Not one but two mono white decks
Lol this game was hilarious. Atraxa is a boring af commander but CGB that wincon was gas.
you need to do this more often i really enjoy watching paper magic games
21:24 Farseek is not a permanent card
And Helm of Awakening helped only Blake. It is what it is.
😀
21:23 Unnatural Restoration gets back a permanent card. Farseek is a sorcery. Sorceries are not permanent cards
Unnatural Restoration only gets permanents. Ben couldn't get Farseek back. I also do not understand why he didn't swing his commander in to kill CGB when CGB was set up to win with double mana. Hitting Blake for 2 toxic made no sense. If you're going to kill one player with Shae, you should kill two to ensure you don't lose.
I smell scripted gameplay.
Very bad play from Ben, always kill the guy that produces double mana, CGB even said before the game he was going to try to get omniscience off.
@@TheSPARTANusm lol maybe scripted or maybe it's just Ben being his usual self. Like he didn't even read the card that only returns permanents
@@Slamstarproductions it’s kinda like Command Zone games sometimes..they make the weirdest plays that give certain players the game. It was meant more as a joke than anything else.
So to clarify, you would like him to attack the player with a Collective Restraint when he was tapped out?
why do only one of these people have a fake name?
Blake is such a fake name right
I'm probably going to get some hate for this and be given valid reasons why not, but I'd be more than fine watching proxied decks if that's more efficient.
33:06 And here, we see that CGB has spent way too much time playing Historic Brawl (actually that's not possible, since Historic Brawl is the best format)
Eeeeemmmm, what's the difference between toxic and poisonous effects?
toxic is when you deal combat damage to a player they get that many poison counters based on toxic level... infect when deals combat damage in either -1/-1 counters or applies poison counters based on damage dealt
@@Grimmothy eeeeemmmm, I'm sorry,but we have "toxic" effect that gives to a player poison counters and we have "poisonous"(it's not infect effect) effect that gives to a player poison counters, so what's the difference?
@@grimdark666 they may have just renamed it, i dont think there is a difference
@@Grimmothy that means i got that right.....rename with no reason....huh
@@grimdark666 with infect you can buff the creature, so if you have a 1/1 infect and cast giant growth given it +3/+3 it would deal four infect, but with toxic you can't buff the creature it will always deal the amount it says
Ben’s shirt is good but Blake’s is amazing! Repping the one true Avatar
There's so much poison in this ep that even the comments are turning toxic.
I love Shea so much hahhaha she is so cute even though we know she has murderous thoughts in her mind
Not sure if it was pointed out yet, but Ben played Unnatural Restoration at 21:22 which says “return target permanent card from your graveyard to your hand” and he chose Farseek which is a sorcery. Come on Ben. You’re better than that, my man.
You all should of had CGB deck himself for the miss play. That would have taught him. LOL
if you want to believe in that ending, please do :)
I know they're meant to, what with the oil theme and darkness of Phyrexia and all, but those artworks are ugly 😕 Can't wait for the new Eldraine fairy tales arts.
All will be white mage.
Is Phyrexia a toxic place? No. The comments section is.
It kind of bothers me that CGB won even though he decked himself technically. I know most people won't agree.
It's fine, you can believe I lost if you like, in cEDH I am dead
@@CovertGoCrew I didn't mean it in a malicious way. I've just always felt that if someone is going to combo off decking themselves is the bare minimum they should be watching out for. I just want someone to have a game plan if they're going to combo off and win not iust throw cards on the table because you have infinite mana or an omniscience out. I know every table is different and every friends group is different. They knew you had the win and were gracious to let you take it back which is fine. I'm not a rules lawyer by any means but like I said not decking yourself seems bare minimum. Sorry if what I've said comes off as malicious or rude. It's not intended that way. It's just my expectations which I know can differ from person to person.
@@nomizak I agree, but that's the difference playgroup to playgroup. Mine would've probably been okay with the initial deck grab, but the self-milling to death would've been extremely hard to justify retconning or otherwise interacting with w/o an instant. Methinks they wanted to just showcase a cool combo and the game was a sneeze away from done regardless.
Sequencing matters
@@pookygallahad4749 yeah I agree on both accounts. I just feel like if someone is watching this show to learn how to play they are getting the wrong impression that it's OK to make a big mistake lije this and everyone will be ok with them taking it back.
It's the short cut that got him. Had he chose to go through the solitaire for 20 minutes he'd have only chose the cards he needed. The table appreciated him not wasting their time, recognized he only lost cuz he was being considerate, and agreed to let him take it back. Kiora isn't a may, but Ateaxa is. So he could've kept 50ish cards in his deck but just said he drew his deck to save time. He could've rewinded instead bur again, that wastes time.
It's also the first time they've ever played these decks. Some piloting errors are to be expected.
Mommy 🙏🫦
When Farewell resolves, it exiles in order of modes printed on the card. because of this, Sram and the Myr Convert would have been back in play when Farewell *exile all creatures* resolves and would have been exiled.
Did Ben missed a proliferate on his last attack? Cz that would hace killed cgb...
Such match should try to use balanced decks, having one player relying on common card of last expansion when other make full use of fetch and original bi-land is disturbing
I choose to view this as Ben and CGB drawing the game. Without that gracious "Yes, you can win" from Ben, the demonstrated loop shortcutting greed would have cost CGB the game. Second reason: CGB would have had to deal with Blake's Elesh Norn before going off without Ben's helpful edict.
He can’t unnatural restoration a farseek because it targets permanent card only
36:15 that doesn’t nothing they missed it
"Enter as" is different from "when it enters". You select what it enters as a copy of when it resolves, not on etb.
21:21 Unnatural Restoration says to return target permanent card and Farseek is a sorcery, so Ben can't get that back
New card, a bit of confusion, but still worth noting)
don't call it cheating please
Ben definitely won this, really sad how this was set up so CGB could win,
Ben could’ve easily taken him out with that staff of compleation that he searched for since CGB was most definitely the biggest threat
Surely Ben is a smarter player than that
Bad episode - clearly staged in the end and fake. Why wouldn’t Ben kill CGB when he had 9 poison counters instead of attacking Blake to take him to 8 counters. Obviously CGB said - we need content so let me get to my turn so I can play atraxa. Bad bad bad game.
Wedding ring does trigger because his elesh norn came in after yours. It’s the rules