Hydro Lifter Water Wheel and Gravity Light
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2018
- Gravity energy storage using a simple machine called a Lifter. Use mechanical energy to charge a gravity battery so that the stored potential energy might be used to operate a generator for electrical production. Visit - www.bclifters.com/
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Good Idea, I Want To See This Types Of Gravity Power Technologies, That Generates Actual Power. Congratulations.
A work of art. Thank you for sharing your machine.
If I were building this I would lengthen the chain on the generator, install several generators in series and use solar motor or pump to lift the weights during the day.
Dude! That is an awesome design!
This video has just increase the market value for used Amusement park Ferris wheels!Oops did I just let the cat out of the bag? Great project dude keep up the good work! 👍
Belo projeto, no caso aumentar a quantidade de engrenagem para obter uns 7000 rpm e depois baixar para uns 3 mil obter torque para puxa um alternado e usar uma bomba de água para pega a água do recipiente coletor e joga pra cima, em um projeto de maior proporção ajudaria lugares isolados a ter energia.
Thank you for this good video 👍🏾
Finde ich sehr gut . Neue Forscher braucht die Welt ☸👍!
Полезно и практично .. Классное видео))
Awesome project mate. Thumb Up!
Thanks for the visit. Check my channel and website for other examples.
Amigo, muchas gracias por compartir este logro, vivo en Colombia, Suramérica, y algo así sería una solución muy interesante para comunidades aisladas!
Sí, sería perfecto para los mecánicos y constructores locales construir Lifters para aplicaciones personales o comunitarias. Visite mi sitio web para ver otros ejemplos y pasarlo a cualquier persona que pueda beneficiarse. Gracias.
Yes, it would be perfect for local mechanics and builders to build Lifters for personal or community application. Visit my web site to see other examples and pass it on to anyone who might benefit. Thanks.
I'm thinking of a gear running a diaphragm to pump the water back up, with one way valves and 1/8 inch hose should be able to almost keep up.
That will never work! The work involved in pumping the water up will make the system come to a complete stop. The system is under 100% efficient so can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
very nice!
I’ve always thought weight has a use as in England we don’t use all what we make (energy) if when making to much we use it to lift weight up and when needed let them go so they make power , I don’t see why we’re not doing it again we used too back in the day it’s like we Brits have gone backwards,
In the last 1800’s early 1900s when bridges needed lifting it was steam power but when the bridges weren’t being lifted or lowered the a weight would be lifted to help with it 💪🏻
Do you think this would produce more energy if it were in the shape of an actual wheel? I'm thinking that there would be additional leverage created from the center axis point which would produce more torque. It's just a thought. Any relevant comments are welcome to enhance the knowledge of the CZcams community. Pretty cool working concept!
The way you extract the energy from the raised weight is really up to builder. In this case a larger wheel would require more building material and the wheel would be large unless you let the water fall into the buckets from the storage height. The energy stored can be released quickly or slowly. The torque would be dependent on the amount of water in the buckets, the number of buckets and how fast you want to use it. Big wheel, small buckets, lots of buckets or small wheel, large buckets, less buckets. As long as the torque is enough to turn the generator you will be halfway there. Thanks for giving it some thought and watching.
Here I used a wheel, small, but it was large enough and easily controlled by varying the water rate hitting it and the delivery point is at the end of a hose. I like hydro. It is easy to vary and deliver the force delivered.
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@@bclifters Absolutely! The way you did this was very impressive and will be used as a guide when I get around to building this project in my own way. Maybe I'll even post it so the world can see it! Thanks again for posting.
Silly thought... Set up as a triangle, vertical side is your up side, and you have the other two sides, which are the same length as the vertical side, pulling down, does that now give you a positive energy on the down side, and a negative energy on the up side? If you have 10 buckets going up, and you have 10 buckets on each leg of the triangle, would that give one a means of making the unit perpetual?
Thanks for watching. There are a lot of ways to extract the energy from a gravity storage machine, but unfortunately you can't get more out than you put in. I love to watch examples of perpetual motion machines. People go into such effort and often their machines are well built and fun to watch, but they don't work. I've built some like you suggest. My math calculations were just so perfect, perfectly wrong. But keep thinking and searching, I will. even though it is like the "pot of gold" at the end of a rainbow.
It’s an interesting idea but it is just so complicated. There are so many points of failure and it requires a fair bit of infrastructure. At the vary least you need a high platform for the water. This could be a tall order for people living on grassland or a desert. Additionally in deserts water may be a precious resource.
Maybe if this could work with dirt gravel or sand than it might be more accessible?
Zekiah2, this video doesn't show how the Lifter was used to tilt up the containers of water. Visit my channel to see other videos or visit the website. The simplest Lifter design is a Hydro Lifter using a Pelton wheel. The use of a flowing material such as fine dirt, sand or water, in the carriage of a Lifter, makes it easy to siphon off the stored energy without the need of large front end gear or pulley systems. Lifters are ideal for flat off the grid use, just about any where you can stand up a vertical support.
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You should be able to get some
I love the idea, multiple containers, how much power are you getting from this andhow much are you gearing up to the final speed
The Gravity Light uses around 20 to 25 pounds to operate for 20 minutes at eight feet. In this example I was able to get 50-60 minutes for every 10 gallons ( approx. 83 pounds) of water collected by the water wheel. The up front gearing is small compared to the rpm provided by the internal gears and generator of the Gravity Light. See my website for additional info.
Very nice work. How much power is needed to lift the water up and how much power the system generates?
You must put more work in than you get out. The method used by the lifter, tilting the carriage, is fairly efficient. Sixty gallons of water weighs around 500 pounds. This Lifter has an extended tilt arm and a small distance between the two fulcrum positions that the carriage tilts on. I believe it required about 40 to 50 pounds for each tilt. Five hundred pounds at eight feet lowered over a period of one hour would give an output of about 1.5 watts. Extending the drop time will reduce the output or decreasing the drop time will increase the output. Visit my web site for more info and examples. www.bclifters.com/
Thank you very nice
With ram pump is good ?
So you need a hose to keep filling the buckets with water?
You have to lower the carriage of the Lifter and refill it with the water that has been collected. This is an efficiency loss when using flowing material in the Lifter carriage. You must either refill from ground level or collect at a higher level and allow the collected material to flow back into the lowered carriage. However, the taller the vertical support, the smaller the efficiency loss, because the physical height/size of the carriage becomes a smaller percentage of the overall height of the vertical support. Look at my web site for other examples and a discussion of Hydro Lifters as well as other types of Lifters.
i dont get it. what is the heavy bricks for? also it takes a lot of energy to put water in the totes on top unless its from the roof. also the pump would use more power than you would get right
The bricks are a counter weight when lowering the carriage. The carriage is around a hundred pounds and the counter weight offsets the wasted energy tilting up the water filled carriage. Plus when lowering the carriage it makes it easy to lower. Carriage weight minus counterweight leaves around twenty to thirty pounds to control when it is lowered. If the carriage and contents are to be dropped, as in many of my non hydro examples, a counter weight isn't needed. Pumps have a height that they pump efficiently. The amount of energy put into pumping the water back and for to the tilting action is a little over the energy needed to lift it. Unfortunately, it is not over unity ha! Check out the videos on my CZcams channel or website to get a better understanding of how the Lifter works.. This video starts with the carriage and contents already up the vertical support.
@@bill-wr6tb then run it from the run-off from your roof and you never have to pump it up to begin with
Very well build..now the next question is how to get the water up again with less energy, what thesystem produces. Have a look at the Messiah machine from Volker Scheffler..he claims to have done it...
I guess a water pump with VFD will be suitable
you can't have a net gain system, it doesn't exist stop trying already. accept reality and deal with it.
claiming and proving are two entirely different things. no one has ever proven that any free energy generated is actually free, there is in almost all cases either a hidden wire, a tesla coil nearby or a battery tucked away somewhere. if something is too good to be true, in most cases it's because it is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE and is thus not true.
the only thing this system from the video does is store power and uses it over a pretty long duration. that energy is the mass of the water falling down due to gravity pulling the water down. the energy required to push it back up is equal the energy it produced on the way down. however nothing is perfect and so you have to tack on inefficiency not just for pushing it up but also when it's falling down and being converted into electrical energy. the potential energy of this system is VERY high however the actual energy (applies to most systems) you gain from it is quite low.
at best you could have a pulley crank and pull it up by hand, which wouldn't take you very much time and if you built it so that it uses mechanical advantage you could lift it up without breaking a sweat. however again the energy required to lift it would remain the same, the only thing mechanical advantage gives you is that you can do the same amount of work over a MUCH larger time frame which reduces the energy per second you need to move/do work on something. that is, it makes the work easier, it doesn't reduce the amount of work you have to do.
@Dan W
""stop trying"?
Can't be done just like flight?"
can not be related at all.
one clearly breaks the fabric of reality that EVERYTHING we have today is based on and the other was some dumb asses who clearly didn't know anything and said it can't be done.
"You know some people Tinker around with stuff like this as a hobby do it just for fun."
you know some people spent their entire fucking lives working on equations and procedures just to come to the same conclusion that nothing is free, nothing can be created nor destroyed. free energy isn't a thing, it's pretty foolish to think that it does because then clearly you don't understand physics. if you don't understand that and you think you know better then all of the scientists that spent their entire lives working on these things then you are actually insane.
there are bounds of reason, and then there is completely off the rails. free energy is off the rails.
Hello, there are at least three defects in your system (the biggest one is pumping system). I had that system eight years ago (you have a lot of room for growth)
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Good idea sir, how many max watt can produce?
The containers hold around 30 gallons each. That would be about 480 pounds total (8 pounds per gallon). This would be almost 4000 ft-lbs at 8 feet. This converts as 1 ft-lb = 0.00037661609675872 Wh. So if the potential energy was drained off in one hour it would be 1.5 watt hours. The output is enough to provide voltage and current for several small LED lamps. Increase the height and/or the size of the filled containers and you will increase the potential energy available. Increasing or decreasing the flow rate of the extracted water will like wise change the amount of voltage and current coming from the generator. Once you determine the amount of output and time of use, you calculate the foot pounds required. From this output value the weight and height of the potential energy needed can be determined to produce it. So the calculated value is the ideal amount needed, but the generator produces back EMF when attached to a load and the loaded and unloaded torque needed to turn it has to be taken into account as well as the over all efficiency of the extraction process.
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czcams.com/video/HD2NhtqyukQ/video.html A linear generator next to that perpetual machine. Calculate the weight of the sphere and washers. replace washers with permanent magnets weigh the same inside the linear generator.
You should have just used the concrete block on a pulley and put a gear-up ratio setup into the generator/light....would have more efficient than using water.
Using water as the material in the lifter came after I ran out of ideas using blocks and gears and pulleys and etc. I'm still using solid materials, but water does have some advantages. It is really easy to pull the needed energy from what's stored and you don't have to use a heavy gear or pulley system up front for torque reduction. Check out some of my other videos at my website for a really early history of development. In the end 5 to 6 hundred pounds of something is stored 'x' feet high and it is up to the user as to how to extract the stored energy.
why are the bricks hanging by the rope? what does that do?
They are used as a counter weight when lowering the carriage. The carriage is around a hundred pounds and the counter weight offsets the wasted energy tilting up the water filled carriage. Plus when lowering the carriage it makes it easy to lower. Carriage weight minus counterweight leaves around twenty to thirty pounds to control when it is lowered.
@@bill-wr6tb oh ok ty.
What capacity can it generate?
Look at the end of the video for some output info. The Gravity Light operates at almost 3 volts dc. All of my Lifters and the method used to tilt them up are just proof-of-concept and are optimized just enough to operate and demonstrate that the concept works. The bucket size of this example was much more than needed for the generator requirements of the Gravity Light. However, this design could drive a larger generator for less time by just increasing the water flow rate. Look at my web site for other example and visit my channel. Watch this video, it gives a good overview of an indoor Lifter and what you can expect from 500 pounds.... "Lifter Safety plus Magnic Light, Gravity Light Drop Test and Hand Crank Generator" (Click on my smiling face to get to my channel.)
If I may suggest...
With a bigger diameter wheel say min 1m with bike chain on sides (to avoid slipping) may increase the power. The gaps between two consecutive buckets can be reduced. Can use a 300w-700w water pump with VFD to save power and lift water.
Lovely experiment.... God Bless
but are you generate electricity ? and how much W make that sistem ? bye good luck withhim
500-6oo pounds raised 8 to 10 feet is enough to provide for several 3 volt LEDs for possibly 5 to 6 hours. If you want more output for a shorter time then you can drop the carriage faster and provide more torque or rpm to your generator. A larger generator will require more energy to operate and you have to match your desired output to the height of your lifter and the weight in the carriage. Those two variables have to equal the generators input requirements and the length of time you want to operate it. Look at my website or channel for more proof-of-concept examples using solid material in the carriage.
you can use ramp pump 3 level water waste the fourt level water waste you use mini water pump
How do you get water for the choir?
In most of the videos I've made I use a solid material in the carriage of the Lifter. I decided to try something different like water. It has several advantages but one disadvantage is that once you empty the carriage of it's water you have to replace it. The water collected at the bottom of the water wheel has to be moved back into the empty carriage when it is lowered back down to the bottom. Once the carriage has been refilled then the carriage would be tilted back up the vertical support. This would be the recharge cycle of the gravity battery, making the potential energy ready to use. In the place of water one could use a loose material like sand. It would be much like an hour glass. Using a flowing material makes it easy to release the stored energy in a measured amount without multiple reducing gears, pulleys, etc.
@@bill-wr6tbYou have to constantly pump water into the upper tanks - I saw that it takes in water by itself, but there is a compressor.
How many kW is it capable of producing - thanks
@@danielkovac2425 This is a small unit and is really just a proof-of-concept. I used a water hose to fill the tanks for this demo so that I could speed up the presentation. There is no compressor. Normally you would lower the carriage and fill it with water and then tilt the carriage up the vertical support. Once it was in position the water would be released so that it would fill the buckets and turn the water wheel. The water wheel turns the very small generator at the bottom. It produces enough voltage to power a couple of LEDs. So, that is only 3-5 volts. I would love to make one that produced a kilowatt, but that would take around 11 tons raised to around 120 feet and would only run for around 60 minutes. Gravity is free, but it takes a lot to make it work for you.
@@bill-wr6tb You don't have such a model that would give at least 2kW - I'm probably exaggerating, but some German company has a model but they blow air in there with a compressor - which is not very suitable.
I saw some scheme where there was no water in the chamber with full tanks - but there was water in the chamber with empty tanks and it acted like Archimedes' law - that is, buoyancy was created -
.Friend - thank you very much for your information, but the road probably won't lead there - it's a pity that I don't have direct contact with you - thanks
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With a RAM pump we'll have free energy.
Wonder how this works when its raining nicely out...
If you are living off the grid and getting power from a Lifter, then it is probably shower day!
@@bill-wr6tb say you use solar to lift and store more fluid in a resevor during the day, charge up batteries with the excess, let it run during the night from the resevor or when the grid is out.... hows the efficency on it look?
You can lift the water up again by ram pump and one of mr teslonians(here on youtube) inventions where he lifts water with sunlight on a barrel changing the pressure inside making water climb to the less pressure region.
If you have flowing water, to extract energy from, then that opens up a whole lot of different storage opportunities. Ram pumps aren't very efficient, but they will raise water to a height that would be useful for energy storage.
I have considered not using solar panels and just rely on the heat from the sun, as you mentioned. Moving a thermally expansive liquid from a heated container up to a cooled container and then reversing the shading to the previously heated container would perform the work needed to tilt the carriage up the vertical support.
A good example of this type of machine is a "Minto Wheel". Everyone has seen the duck that puts his beak in a glass of water over and over. Temp differential is the big gotcha.
Yes i agree with ram pump with more than 4 valve maybe can lift more water..for waste water i agree too using mini solar power to moved that waste water to main bucket, but i dont know for sure that idea.
I mean.. It's cool and all, pretty artsy, but couldn't all of it be replaced by one 9V battery? I mean... What's even the point at this point? xD
Admirable work! However too much effort for a very little output. Haven has solution to every humans problem, but you have to ask for it for the answer to come.
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What about hooking a low powered water pump to it so the water from the bottom could be pumped back to the top heck maybe even a mechanical one using gears and belts then it could run continuously until the water evaporated 😏
Oh how I wish that was possible. Remember that the efficiency of your machine is less than 100%. You can't get more energy out than you put in. That doesn't stop the endless flow of ideas on how to over come this problem from showing up on youtube. (Spinning magnets and wheels, generators turning motors and motors generators, floating and sinking air filled containers, etc.) I like trying myself sometimes, just to see where the fault is. Keep thinking. 😎
Just found out about ram pumps they can supposedly pump water uphill
The only catch is how to collect the water they gush out and how to divert it back to a tank that feeds back to the lower tank and it can then feed the upper tank you’d probably need 2 ram pumps no idea how you’d hook it all up but it may be possible
Kinda cool to bad u couldn’t have this setup then have the overflow fill the buckets on your invention to get more energy out of the water then if it were realistically possible to hook up that ram pump and it works pump the water back to the top and start the process over again or even power another gravity generator
This stuff really interests me but I know true perpetual motion is impossible but near is until the flywheel looses energy or the battery slowly runs out of stored power until the motion is unable to power it anymore it’s still fun to see what people come up with
Your invention I think is smart to bad it couldn’t be done in large scale to power cities maybe not even using water but sand or weights but it would still need a person manning it to refill the top reservoir but it could be a source of clean energy even if water ran to low to run turbines
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I agree, these pumps are really unique. Watching them work, looks like magic. I thought there might be some way to use them in a Lifter, and you could, but if you have a flowing body of water then you have a ready made source of energy and there are several methods of utilizing it. Take a look at these and try to understand why they don’t work. Once you start seeing the flaws in these you will be able to apply the same logic to your own and other energy conversion methods that claim to be near or over unity. Enjoy, if you solve the puzzle, you will be the most famous person ever!
Visit - lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
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pointless. A solar pane, battery and a LED light would be cheaper.
Looks dark in your garage
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