Music Fans Are Still Choosing CDs over Vinyl in 2023 and Why the UK Album Charts are Not Broken
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- Music Fans Are Still Choosing CDs over Vinyl in 2023 and Why the UK Album Charts are Not Broken
I want to share my thoughts on why CDs continue to hold a special place in the hearts of music fans, including myself. Despite the rise of streaming services and the resurgence of vinyl, there’s something about CDs that keeps us coming back for more. Join me as I dive into some statistics, explore different artists and genres, and shed light on the significance of CDs in achieving chart success.
The Significance of CDs:
As a self-proclaimed multi-format man, I understand the appeal of different music formats. Many music fans, like me, enjoy collecting CDs and vinyl, depending on the artist, price point, and personal preferences. The availability of diverse bundles and formats plays a crucial role in influencing our buying decisions. Let’s explore some numbers to back this up.
Metallica vs Ed Sheeran:
Let’s compare two artists from different genres: Metallica, a heavy metal band, and Ed Sheeran, a pop sensation. Metallica’s recent album reached number one on the charts, thanks in large part to CD sales. Without those CD sales, their album wouldn’t have made it to the top. Similarly, Ed Sheeran’s audience heavily favored CDs, which significantly contributed to his chart dominance.
Metallica : 72 Seasons : Stats for the first week of release
Total Sales = 29,249 - CD Sales = 15,873 - Vinyl = 6,292 - Cassettes = 864 - Downloads = 3,159 - Streams = 3,060
Ed Sheeran : Subtract : Stats for the first week of release
Total Sales = 76,263 - CD Sales = 41,122 - Vinyl = 8,124 - Cassettes = 4,970 - Downloads = 7,792 - Streams = 14,255
The Ever-Changing Album Charts:
Some argue that the album charts are broken, and I recently came across an article in The Guardian suggesting a rethink. While I understand the sentiment, I believe the changes reflect the current music landscape. Bands now have unprecedented control over their fan base through social media and direct communication. Coordinating and releasing various versions of albums simultaneously has become key to chart success.
Chart Position and Publicity:
Reaching a chart position, even if it’s temporary, holds tremendous value for bands. It’s a powerful way to generate buzz, gain exposure, and expand their fan base. I’ve seen new rock bands like Massive Wagons and Cat’s In Space pierce the ceiling and make it onto the charts, creating a ton of publicity in the process. Being in the top 20 of the UK album charts, even for a week, can have a significant impact on a band’s visibility and future success.
The Role of Choice and Streaming:
Choice is a vital aspect of the music experience, and streaming platforms play a significant role in helping us discover new music. I often stream to explore different artists and genres before deciding which albums to add to my physical collection. CDs, in particular, serve as a convenient entry point for me. They allow me to explore an artist’s work without committing to more expensive formats like vinyl.
Conclusion:
In a world where music consumption has evolved, CDs continue to thrive and maintain their appeal. As a music enthusiast, I find joy in collecting and listening to CDs. They offer a tangible experience and a sense of ownership that streaming alone can’t provide. Whether it’s Metallica’s heavy metal masterpiece or Ed Sheeran’s chart-topping pop hits, CDs have proven their significance in achieving chart success.
So, next time someone tells you that CDs are dead, remind them of Metallica and Ed Sheeran, two major artists who reached number one on the UK album charts with the help of CDs. Let’s celebrate the abundance of choices available to us as music fans and continue to support physical formats. CDs are alive and kicking, and they deserve a special place in our music collections.
Phil Aston | Now Spinning Magazine
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Long live CDs!!
Nice quick recap of latest trends. CDs alive and kicking!
Thank you for watching - Phil
Great video! It's awesome to hear that the CD format is still popular. I have discs that were made nearly 40 years ago and they sound 100% identical to the day they left the factory - you can't say that about the majority of 40 year old records!
Very very true! Thank you for watching - Phil
Great video. I love and play vinyl for nostalgic reasons but I still listen to cds as I genuinely think this is the best media format for music. I just bought a 3-cd collection of Sister Rosetta Tharpe and the sound is amazing. Also, it's also much much more affordable to purchase cds . Used and new vinyl prices have gone crazy.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts - Phil
I quit vinyl in the mid 80s. Never looked back. Cds are the best sound format ever. Record companies have been trying to destroy the cd format for years. My cds aren't going anywhere.
Hi William, thank you for watching and wonderful to hear! Phil :)
I much prefer cds, they are more durable, convenient, and are much better value, as each cd can have much more music than a standard record.
@@mpi5850 They are not super susceptible to scratches, only if you don't store them properly.
CD’s Rule 🤘🏿
Firstly congrats on a great channel which I have just discovered. As the owner of approx 4,000 CD's and 300 vinyl albums it was good to see a non biased factual video regarding the strength of CD sales. As a CD fan it saddens me to hear negative press regarding CD's with the recent vinyl revival. As you say CD is an option depending on your budget, the extras available and convenience of the format. Good to see downloads at the bottom, you cannot beat a physical copy. 😀
Hi Mark, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts - Phil
Ever since getting an sacd player a few years ago, there has been no looking back...cheers ✌️
Phil, I'm still amazed that cassettes are selling at all ! Thanks Phil for another fine review, and all the best.
Cassettes are fun! I'm not sure if buy a new album on tape though. I've inadvertently got back into playing my cassettes in the past 6 months and they're cool. The problem with the format though is that it's not so easy for the average punter to buy a fully functional and half decent machine for an affordable price. It's not impossible but certainly presents a barrier to the format
Hi Phil.
Since a lot of sales go unrecorded, it's too early to tell, but this could be a sign of how much the vinyl industry has shot itself in the foot with high prices and the amount of bad pressings they've thrown onto the market. And if it's the case, one can only say that with the stupidity and greed they have shown, they sure have had it coming.
Even for me (a total vinyl guy) it makes perfect sense. Why pay so much more for junk pressings when cd's just works?
I see Tannoy speakers if I'm not mistaken. What is the rest???
Stay awesome Mate.
All the best from Denmark.
I think we are seeing a backlash against vinyl prices and quality issues. Ed Sheeran only selling 8,000 vinyl copies must be a surprise to the label compared with 41k of CDs. This is 2023, the CD format is supposedly dead!
The BS could hurt the vinyl market. It’s not necessary when there are examples of how selling records the right way are being done. Blue Note puts out excellent pressings at a fair price. Unfortunately, other companies are either putting out bad sounding pressings, or unnecessary bloated expensive pressings that emphasize junk packaging. One Steps and UHQR’s specifically. I own a few of those records. I may sell them because they seem a little over the top in their presentation for what were originally single records. Big bulky boxes, and double 45’s, in some cases, reissues of single 33 rpm records. The difference in speed may or may not make an improvement of sound over the original pressings. I’m over it.
Exactly.
Some years ago the BBC did a survey which found that only around 50% of vinyl purchasers actually listened to the physical record, and a substantial minority didn't even own a record deck. If that is still the case, poor pressings won't worry that demographic, who perhaps buy mainly to pose on social media with the limited edition copy of the day.
It's all about marketing these days. The pop business has always had that in it, but it's reached ridiculous levels now. I just shake my head when seeing all the endless stream of overpriced limited splatter/colour/etc vinyl releases which fly off the shelves due to FOMO, whilst regular black copies sit apparently unwanted and unloved.
@@ShanghaiRooster People are still buying records without playing them or owning a turntable. According to Phil it's called "Silent vinyl". I can't say to what extent, or anything about %, but I can say that I personally don't get it since I'm all in for the sound quality. I don't see any point in not enjoying the sound quality that vinyl offers and just have a stack stuffed away. But never the less all due respect to those who do.
Colored records, fancy covers, extra material, booklets ...... You name it - Those things doesn't mean a thing to me, but nothing beats the sound from a good pressing. I would be quite pleased with white labels, just as long as the pressing is top notch. And one thing is a fact: You get the best sound from thinner black vinyl. 180 gram records stinks, and is a sales gimmick.
Speaking of the pop business I cannot help but think that a lot of pop music shouldn't be allowed to be put out on vinyl. I know that I probably risk pissing off a few people by saying this (sorry bout that), but we all know that it won't take long before those who bought that kind of stuff clears out of the fog and realize that it is some sad junk, and then we have to dig through piles of the crap at flea markets and thrift stores etc. before it ends up at the land fill. Way too much modern pop music is as little a benefit to the environment as it is to our ears.
We can only hope that the "Toys'R'us" wave dies out in the future, and people get a chance to see good old fashioned record stores with quality music on black quality pressings, so they can experience what vinyl REALLY have to offer.
Stay cool Mate.
Hi Phil, I’m a multi format guy. But the price of vinyl is way too high. CDs are reliable and affordable. Great video.
I remember that CD's were more expensive than vinyl records in the 1980"s. It would be nice if records were cheap again.
@@JohnBrown-pu9ol Yes, it would. They are obviously trying to cash in on the popularity.
I think we might be seeing a backlash against price and quality issues. Phil
@@JohnBrown-pu9ol Actually vinyl was cheaper than CD back in the early 2000s. It was around 2015 when things started to change. But yeah, point taked.
Many years ago I talked myself out of a job at His Master’s Voice back in 1988. I argued at my job interview that Motörhead didn’t necessarily sound better on CD in comparison to Vinyl. Some Jazz and most Classical,yes CD was the perfect format. Last new Vinyl I bought was a double album compilation of Sun Records material in a Supermarket. That was a time frame when some Supermarkets started stocking selected Vinyl. I bought it for the shock of seeing such a niche compilation at a Supermarket. CD are generally better value and sound wise,even on a basic under £100 Micro system,the listener is more likely to get good audio quality.
it's nice to see people are waking up and buying cd's again.
This! (and I love the vinyl too).
I still love my CDs! Thanks for highlighting that CDs continue to play an important role in album sales.
Thank you for watching - Phil
Hi 👋 what a great video. I found it very interesting and informative on how the CD is currently performing in the modern physical music world. I collect CD and have just pre ordered the new Blur album. That was a bit expensive for a CD in todays market. It was £17. I think it will definitely be a major factor though in the overall sales figures of the album.
Thank you for watching and your positive comment - Phil
The deluxe version I guess? The regular CD is a bit cheaper.
AT LAST! THE VOICE OF REASON AND COMMON SENSE IS HEARD! There is so much complete BS and total hype spouted about the vinyl revival and death of the CD. Whenever I hear a comment begin with "Nobody" or "everybody" it sets my teeth on edge. You are absolutely spot on. There are fewer monster sales success stories these days because there are so many different artists across so many genres all competing for a slice of the pie. It is most certainly a far larger pie than the one available in 1974 which was mainly male play and stale. A look at the Top 50 albums from 50 years ago this week reveals just several female artists featured- Karen Carpenter as one half of the duo, The female member of Peters and Lee, Diana Ross and Carly Simon. The albums were for the most part recent releases with no real legacy market back then. The Beatles Red & Blue albums had just been released and of course you had a couple of soundtrack albums Max Bygraves and James Last in the mix. Popular music had a much narrower appeal back then and did not cut across such a wide demographic- few 70 year olds were buying YES or PINK FLOYD in 73! There were fewer outlets to hear music - BBC Radio1, Luxembourg, only a couple of TV shows- TOTOPs and Whistle Test and of course the odd appearance on Les Dawson, Cliff Richard and Crackerjack. Popular music didn't get the same coverage in the media- certainly not on the main TV news bulletins as it does today. We were actually starved of music in many ways. We only got to hear what the record companies decided to release and promote- what the record stores stocked what the music press decided to write about. Music was heavily censored! Even the number of foreign artists appearing on UKTV was controlled by a restrictive union practice enforced by the Musicians Union. This also included the number of records played in any 1 hour period- "needle time" and a strict quota of any foreign records. The past really was a different country. We rarely got to see US acts perform on UKTV. When it comes to the Charts despite all the current restrictions and rules regarding eligibility (the Ed Sheeran factor) the current chart is probably the most democratic and accurate reflection of what the public are listening to and buying. 50 years ago a small sample of around 100 stores nationwide were used to compile the chart- They only published a Top 50 as the accuracy fell of a cliff beyond this number in terms of trying to avoid ties. Woolworths, the UKs largest record retailers did not participate in the chart survey so the numbers were hopelessly skewed from the off.
I think this is my favourite comment so far on this video. You seem have got into my head and explained what I was thinking far better than I could. Your insights are so true and observational on the current situation and why it’s so different. Thank you for watching - Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine On the same wavelength and of similar vintage! A coupe of other points- look at the chart from 50 yard go and it is so WHITE- few black artists managed to score hits- especially on the album charts here in the UK. Incredible to think that 2 of the greatest albums of all time What's Going On & let's Get It On failed to chart on the UK top 50 yet today are considered masterpeices. Misogyny and racism were very present in our music scene during the 60s and 70s. I cannot abide the nonsense that is written about the binary choice of analogue or digital- why does it have to be one over the other? There are so many factors to consider and each format has its merits and faults- try listening to your vainly collection on the way to work... Like yourself streaming is a gateway for me to explore more music than ever possible in the past. it's like having the worlds largest jukebox- everything just a click away, no searching through your collection searching for that certain disc. I live happily in my multi format bubble.
Love seeing that nice old copy of Sounds magazine, especially re: Deep Purple. That's a nice little time capsule you have there from almost 50 years ago!
I might give this it’s only little video and go through it page by page talking as if it’s 1974 :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine That would be really great to see Phil - some of the articles, photos and adverts. Would be fun!
I found on Sunday I sold far more cds than vinyl at our record Fair I organise in Guernsey.
I must say over here it seems vinyl is dying as the turnout of people buying isn't what it was.
Hi, thank you for watching and sharing your observations. That is interesting to hear. Phil
People who are starting to collect vinyl will soon realise that they’ll need a lot of room, my advice is to collect cd’s and buy only your very favourite records on the best vinyl pressing you can get. Thanks for the info btw it’s good to know cd’s are still in demand.
Thank you 🙏
Sales seem to be astonishingly small; for everything.
With multi media entertainment available i think music is simply not as important to the populace as it once was.
When I was growing up there was football and music. If you were into music the only way you could hear what you wanted when you want was to buy a copy. Now there is gaming, apps, mobiles, streaming, DVD, social media so buying physical music is more niche.
@@Baz63 I agree, and happily admit to being a complete "music snob". But you're not a music fan if all you do is download tracks from albums like "Pick 'n' Mix Sweeties" and have them playing through headphones whilst doing the ironing or out jogging.
I stream everyday, if I didn’t there would be no music in the car! I use it to listen to new artists or in different rooms in the house or when I am away. I also have a network streamer which is part of my HiFi. I have bought a lot more physical music on CD and vinyl since streaming first!
@@NowSpinningMagazine But I bet you also just sit down occasionally, stick on an album and just sit there, with a beer or a coffee, and just *IMMERSE* yourself in it. That's the difference between a real music fan and just someone that treats it as casual entertainment.
I love both formats. In my own little selfish world, what would balance out CD and Vinyl sales 1: Gotta get vinyl prices back down to something 1/2 Way normal levels 2. Start packing CDs in Long Boxes again. Give us something a bit more tangible and exciting than some flattend digipaks that you slap $17 on.
That would work for me as well ! Phil :)
Great video. Very informative.
Thank you 🙏
I'll never stop buying CDs, i collect vinyl aswell but not at the rate I buy CDs. I'm 36 and being the oldest of my generation in my family I've been fortunate to have been given all my parents, aunts/uncle etc vinyl over the years. I collect for the music not for the value. I dont look for specific pressings etc... I simply want a hard copy of the music I love. For me the love of CDs started right along with my first love in music which was Doo Wop, Rockabilly and Surf. It could be a near impossible task to put together a complete collection of singles for even one doo wop group and for 30 or 40 bucks buy there entire catalog. I've spent hundreds on specific CDs and Records knowing it's the only option for a hard copy but I'll take a reissue CD over an original oop high dollar one anyday
Hi Rob, thank you for watching and sharing your music collecting story, that was great to read ! Phil :)
I have been on an SACD spending spree recently
Wonderful, SACD should have been the format that took over from the CD
Fascinating stuff Phil. I am delighted by the fact that the CD is still holding its musical ground. So much can be put down to the price. Last Friday, I visited my local HMV and purchased the new Def Leppard and Ian Hunter albums (both brilliant). I opted for the CD in both cases and it came to around £26. The vinyl looked great but it would have cost nearly £40 more. By the way, have you pre-ordered the Gamma box set from Cherry Red yet?
Hi, yes - the gamma set is on order ! Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine Yes, that's one I am waiting for too. I bought the Montrose set on your recommendations even though I already had every track on other remasters and was pleasantly surprised at the better quality of a lot of it.
If you look after vinyl, it has excellent longevity, store it properly and keep away from direct sunlight, cds look nice love the box set, but when you damage not so easy to repair, where vinyls can last well if you look after them well, same with cd but they are more fragile, room for both.
The streaming numbers are interesting. Always brilliant insights Phil
Thank you 🙏
Vinyl quality and price is a real issue. Personally I've shifted to buying mostly CD's in 2023.
Thank you for watching, I think both of those factors are behind some of this. Phil
I am very much like you in that I stream first before buying a hard copy. I don’t consider anything to be part of my collection without the hard copy.
I would buy the CD simply because of its low price and its great to play in the car. If it’s a band or artist that I particularly like or collect then I add the vinyl. When I sit down to really enjoy an album it’s always vinyl as 1st choice. If it’s just background music then CD or streaming as a third choice. My vinyl playing system is my most important and of an higher quality than my CD player which again is of a higher quality than my streamer. Perhaps I need to upgrade those last two to get the best out of them.
I also have quite a large collection of cassettes that in all honesty have been barely played in the last few years as I don’t consider the sound quality up to much. These were mainly acquired before CD players were common in cars and I can’t understand why anyone would want to invest in that system although I recently purchased a second hand cassette deck that is better quality than the ones that I had in the 1980’s so maybe I will dig some of my tapes out, some of which I don’t have on other formats.
Hi Tony, thank you so much for taking the time to share how you enjoy music. My habits are almost identical to yours. Phil :)
Iam glad CDs are selling
For me I'm a CD man. I recently got a large amount of HNE Reocrds compilations and know the exact dimensions. Records are beautiful but require so much room. Sheesh.
Space is a constant issue with a vinyl collection!
@@NowSpinningMagazine So we redecorated recently meaning the wife and I ended up sharing the second biggest bedroom as a study (previously just my study) so she could make the smallest bedroom a dressing room (previously her study).
I had one full wall of CD racks and more of them piled up on shelves around the rest of the room and she wanted them moved and hidden.
I was able to get two IKEA Billy bookcases, both 26cm depth, one 80cm width and one 40cm width inside the fitted wardrobe cupboard in that shared study, and I packed them both with additional shelves so that are now 12 CD shelves on each - and then put the CDs in at double depth.
I think there's about 2,500 CDs in there now with all of the bigger box sets on top of the shelves - and that works well because I rip all of the CDs to my media server first so rarely take the actual CDs out - but as I keep them in alphabetical order, it's a pain when I have a stack of new CDs to file away and move the whole collection on a bit, shelf by shelf!
Love cds .
I don't mind cds, but in most record shops vinyl outsells cds, however there cds box sets are back and seem to do well, but i think theres room for both.
Phil, I am the same ,a CD and a Vinyl man, they serve different purposes, keep up the good work!
Thank you 🙏
Hello Phil, first time time watcher, liked the video. I have had my own small company selling vinyl and CD's, but I supose mostly niche stuff and always wondered if the sales numbers are based on sales to end users, or to shops and resalers (I think the latter). What do you thinl / know? Greetings from The Netherlands.
Hi and welcome. The numbers are to end users not to the shops. Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine Thanks for your quick and clear response!
Excellent news Phil, another great video. I do wonder whether CD is improving at the moment as a result of the economic situation, particularly for a younger audience based on the Ed Sheeran sales.
Hi Toby, I think younger fans like yourself are taking into account the cost and recent quality issues and the CD version then looks like a good choice. Phil
The early 90's happenings are here again. There is so many factors which show the vinyl trend will end very soon. Please don't understand me wrong. I love vinyl, I have no problem to pay even quite high amounts for records I want (if I eat porridge half of the month), albeit I got almost all I need when the prices were reasonable, even cheap (about 1995-2018). But almost everything about vinyl feels wrong today, it has joined to the list of ruined things (and the list is long, believe me). With the CD's people can still continue to enjoy their "hobby". It is about the music not f*kken stock market and artificial collecting for sake of collecting because it is trendy thing to do. I say, many of the people are shaking their heads in the future when they realize their colourful re-issue vinyl grails are not worth of what they though.
Your words are very wise and I can relate very much to what you are saying. Thank you for watching - Phil
I buy new and old stuff on CD but only some second-hand vinyl, mostly albums from the 70's and 80's I used to own in younger days. I guess I'm most intrigued by Ed Sheeran selling almost 5000 cassettes lol.
Thank you for watching. I get the impression that many of the cassette sales are due to them being bundled in with the vinyl. I find it hard to believe that many of the target audience have a cassette deck!
@@NowSpinningMagazine If so, what a waste of plastic! :)
It's music first for me. Yes, I do have nice hifi but I simply don't see the point of buying vinyl when it's typically 3 or 4 times more costly. Then encountering all the same problems we did back in the 70s and 80s. I never sold any of my vinyl but I find it much more enjoyable to collect CDs nowadays.
Thank you for watching. Phil
For me it's cds all the way. When I bought my first 2 cds back in the 80's and sold off my vinyl collection, I've never regretted doing so. Still buying cds to this day.
The CD all the way🌟
I miss the old music stores of the 90's and early 2000's that sold CD'S like National Record Mart or Waves. You could actually choose from the entire back catalog of a band on the shelf and the import CD'S were a bit more expensive, but if you loved a certain band it was worth it.
Hi Michael, I remember those days as well , getting into a new band and going to a real record shop and seeing their entire back catalogue on the shelf! Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine And if you were a regular customer they'd give you your favorite bands' promotional posters for their new releases or sell them cheap. In the Summer of 1989 I had the promo posters for Technique from New Order, New York from Lou Reed, and Doolittle from the Pixies on my bedroom walls. Those were the days.
Hi Phil, where can I find the sales figures of CD's vs vinyl?
They are from Music Week
I'm wondering if most CD and vinyl purchases are online now. Remember when Doug Putnam, the self-confessed vinyl junky took over HMV in 2021? Our large store has just reopened following a refit, and to walk past you would never know they sold any music: over 3/4 has been given over to cuddly toys and there are just three short CD racks hidden away right at the back, same with records and DVDs.
Similar thing happening in the U.K, first part of the shop is soft toys!
@@NowSpinningMagazine I am in the UK, but yeah, not good.
Great Phil Video Phil. It makes a lot of sense to buy CDs. Unfortunately, Vinyl is significantly more interesting to me and I think it always will be. I just can’t get into CDs. To me, the only significant advantage is the price. Of course that is important. Otherwise in my opinion, Vinyl has a charm that cannot be matched. I get it though.
Hi Thomas, thank you for watching and your well thought out response. I know where you are coming from - Phil
This is really good news about CD's. I will never go back to Vinyl! Scratch, crackle and disortion on vinyl! VInyl also weighs a ton and takes up so much room!
Hi Tony, thank you for watching - Phil
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second hand CD player or new one? suggestions please
Depends on your budget - you can get some really good bargains at the moment. What do you currently have?
@@NowSpinningMagazine Marantz 5004 CD and lots of problems with it . Switched to vinyl for the moment. They all seem to go wrong after 5 years.
Hi Sir Phil, you are always treat to watch.... and the news about cd is music to my ears. I will never abandon the cd and I am glad many others feel the same. Have a great week. God bless and keep up your excellent work about all that is wonderful in music and collecting.
Hi Tino, thank you for watching and your kind comments - Phil
Hello
In swedish TV they said records sold more than CD last year was that fake news?
I have heard from a recordshop that it was not allowed to play specific records to costums....
Chris Blackwell Island rec first non musician to win Polarprice.. Takecare...
I am finding that my cds are deteriorating after about twenty years. Some are completely unplayable, some have blank spots. Most have been sitting in the case, so not from overuse. It looks to me that the reflective coating is going bad. Highly recommend backing up any cds or dvds that have data you don’t want to lose. Anyone else having this issue?
I have one CD from 1996 which is playing perfectly (a TDK CD-R), but I've got others too which are oxidising/corroding. I produce CDs of music so I am now offering CDs on gold archival CDs (CDrs) which are meant to last 300+ years. The gold layer prevents the oxidisation.
Hi Shane, I have 1000s and only a couple where they are oxidising. I started buying them when they appeared so 40 years ago. In the U.K. it was a specific pressing plant that was to blame called PDO - have a look around the inner rim to see if yours were pressed by them.
@@NowSpinningMagazine PDO were blameworthy for the CD bronzing condition. The wiki page says that only UK made PDO discs were susceptible to this kind of disc rot.
Ha ha, Yes being my favourite band I've gone for all three versions!. I know it's Yes-lite these days and I want Jon and Rick back in the band but it's still Yes and I like what they're doing...
Hi Ian, that is great to hear! Bit like me with Deep Purple, I buy every variant ! Phil :)
Morning Phil, yes, I think with favourite bands it has to be done. There's nothing like putting on that fresh new music by your all time fave artist. Plus if I didn't get all formats I feel there is something missing in the collection...
I am never going to criticise any band for continuing to put out albums and play live but Yes are one of my favourite bands too, ever since the mid-1970's and I think what we have today is "Yes Lite" that isn't the same with Rick and Jon. And RIP Chris Squire and Alan White.
Everything changes and life goes on, we can’t bring back our fallen heroes and the members of Yes and lots of other bands In similar positions know this. For fans of yes and the current members flying the flag this is a wonderful album.
Unless it's someone who I really like & want their albums I won't buy their albums until I've listened to their albums from a download site which I pay for for a small amout of the cost of an album.. then If I like waht they have done with the album I can then go out & buy yhe real thing as they do cost a lot of pocket money to some people.
I just heard on the news that vinyl outsold cds last year for the 1st time. So are you disputing that?
No, I did a separate video on that plus it depends if you are looking at units, revenue and which territories. These videos are focused on the UK album charts. Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine 👍
Hmmm, interesting. Do you know what is the average pressing of a dance music (house, techno, drum and bass) pressing is? Well, I do, since I work in a pressing plant. It's 500 units these days. Now guess how many such a release are coming out each week? On a yearly average, according to the most exhaustive online sales source (juno), it's about 400 . I will let you do the math, also remonding you that that music doesn't even come out on CD, at all.
Now of course, none of those are even close to those big mainstream artists, but the total numbers crush them. And I was only citing one genre, when there are many others where CD barely exist anymore, if even.
So all of that to say that sure, CD still exist, but your methodology is IMHO highly blindfolded and anecdotical, respectfully ^^
Thank you for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts. This video focused on the number one positions in the U.K. album chart. I do quite a few of these and in others I have looked at other territories and market segments. I also realise I am looking at a niche part of the music business, physical sales being around 14% of the overall album market in the U.K.. I know that if looked at the Rap genre there would little or no physical product at all. These videos are a snapshot looking at the number one positions in the U.K. album chart and are a counter balance to the press over here constantly saying now one buys CDs anymore because vinyl is more popular. Physical media is very much a niche part of the music business now but CDs are still a popular part of that niche. You might like this podcast I did with one of the biggest pressing plants in the U.K. Have We Reached Peak Vinyl & What About the CD? - The Now Spinning Magazine Podcast with Phil Aston
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3:35 If the vinyl edition also includes a CD... another CD sold?
I thought that as I said it but I need to check my sons copy as it was not advertised and I am not sure if it’s the actual album or extra tracks. The CD with the vinyl used to be very common but has largely vanished now as labels have realised that many fans will buy both! Phil
Me likey them all : CD's, Cassette tapes, and Vinyl. Not to mention that C is for cookies and that's good enough for me .
With single vinyls records upwards of 30 bucks...
For the aswell records where more fun 20 years ago when good stuff could be found at thrift stores and garage sales for cheap. Now everyone over values vinyl and CDs are CHEAP!
No they’re not. Vinyl is for the first time since 1988 selling more world wide.
This was just looking at the UK
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Come on Phil the title is misleading cd sales have been beaten by Vinyl sales again, it’s good to see both formats again but vinyl sales of popular artists like Taylor Swift have beaten cd sales, people want something substantial to hold much as I like cds that are like toys, Vinyl can be a thing of beauty.
I updated this video very recently to reflect that
I also did a follow up interview with Key Production and CD sales are doing very well. Both formats are valid and I buy both
@@NowSpinningMagazine it’s great to see both formats flourishing, people want something tangible now instead of a title on a phone or screen.
They still sound better cds.
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You got me there! What I was trying to emphasise was they were a more recent name in the album charts compared to the established classic rock names. Phil :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine Agreed there. I believe this was their highest charting album. it was an interesting video comparing how we used to buy albums to how we now buy albums. Thank you
You are welcome 🙏 thank you for watching- Phil :)
Popular music and rock music are dead and have been for years . Ed Sheerans sales back in the day wouldve seen him dropped . Its dead and it aint coming back
Thank you for watching, I am in all these videos referring to the current niche that is physical music. As you may or may not know I talk to a lot of new bands and fans. It ain’t what it was and we are not wanting to go back to a world before the internet but music is still special and always will be. The niche that does buy physical music are passionate about it and alive and kicking - Phil :)
No they are not...
Well they are here! However, we champion both formats and this was to show there are fans of the CD against all the negative press. Thank you for watching - Phil :)
the "younger" generation are interested in cassettes,
Well it's not me!, I thought they were awful ! Great for mix tapes for the car and for friends but everything about them makes little sense in 2023. However, that big box of tapes in the garage is going up in value by the day! Perhaps I'll do a video of my Deep Purple Cassette Collection - Phil :)
CDs are capable of magnificent sound - if only so many weren't so blooming loud!
Record companies and the clowns who master CDs need to be shamed for doing this.
"Loudness wars" for anybody that doesn't understand what I'm describing.
Totally agree, there have been lots of errors along the which were unnecessary. Phil
And half of those buying LPs don't own a recored player!Search for the survey!
Yes, I mentioned that in a previous video! It is a phenomenon called 'silent vinyl'. Fans buy the album at a gig as a form of merch and then sit at home streaming it whilst looking at the physical vinyl album.
@@NowSpinningMagazine These are presumably the same people that record their entire lives on their mobile phones just to watch it all later.
I'm not poor, so I buy both.
Good for you !
@@NowSpinningMagazine Fantastic for me.
And the artists you support