Husqvarna 372XP "X-Torq" Main Bearing Failure & Repair Part 1 Saw Tear Down & Spitting Cases
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2016
- Tearing down this saw, splitting the cases to figure out how much damage was done by this bearing failure.
I promised early on that this entire video series was going to basically document my saw experience.... both good and bad. Both positive and negative. Un biased. Raw. As I live it. Unfortunately this one isn't a positive one; but it is real. It will work into a positive out come. Just not in this video... :) Also as you will see I do have choices as well. If you all care to comment soon enough....that will influence part 2. Since the top end is as factory delivered, wasn't off before; it does have a base gasket. "Did" is a key work here. Will it remain? I've seen this saw before as well. Prior issues this saw had were crush related and ignition related. Both typical of the environment it lived and unfortunately that saw series. Those plug wires on the cylinder isn't rare. Bottom line is this saw has led a rough life. SO... in its reincarnation; should it be a 372/371XP?? Or a 372XT? Please vote with a comment..:) - Jak na to + styl
Thanks for the tear down looking forward to the build!
You said this saw has led a rough life.After you make the repairs,its still going to lead a rough life.This saw apparently works for a living and this guy needs a built like a tank,no frills,as bullet proof as possible saw.If the lower end will take the remain and you know a extra little magic to make it work,go old school and build a him a tank.He still has to do his part and pm.It will probably be a reliable saw after the faulty bearings are replaced,and its too bad the upper end failed and has to be replaced because of foreign material.Imo bearings taking that kind of rpm should not be caged in nylon or anything but metal.Good luck.Thanks for your videos.Will be waiting for part 2.
can not wait for part 2
I bought one of those case splitters from Huztl and I really like mine! I also noticed last time that I was on Huztl.net, they are offering a 50mm 365xt P&C kit with the removable transfer covers. It's just my opinion but I am willing to bet that Huztl is going to be a more common name in the aftermarket world very soon!
I just want to make sure I had the correct bushing as mine has a flared end on one side(won't really fit the oil worm gear). and figured that that end went into the oil seal then the washer on top and then the oil gear.
Another great vid! Heartbroken to hear about your horse. Looking forward to part 2. How about 372 xpw build?
I did put an xpw top end on a 365...might need to go further with that saw at some point.
You answered some good intricate questions, so I have one too. I have a 2010 357xp, and I've been looking at 372xp's lately. I've come across a used one (no plate with serial #) that is an x-torq model with decomp on top, but it has the chain tensioner on the front of the case between the inside dog and the bar. I haven't seen any saws or details about saws that are in the x-torq lineup that don't have the tensioner on the clutch cover. Is this a well-made knock-off?
Sorry to hear about the horse, they are part of the family.
personally , i would let / have you build as you see fit ; in the case of this saw.
+Damon Hart Thanks. Tough year for animals. The horse was named "Diesel", he was an amazing horse. Old style thoroughbred with larger bones and feet than typical in current race horses....still competitive in his day on the track but durable enough for the crazy girl in his retirement.
I was wondering if you could tell me how the sleeve bushing, and washer go in for install.
my bushing has a ridge on one end and the other side doesn't and I can't remember how I went back in for orientation.
Assuming the crank & bearings are installed properly, THEN the seal. That little tiny oring seal next, the bushing...the washer next then the oil pump.
Only recently started watching your videos and they're great. Do you recommend any particular 3rd party parts supplier specifically for Stihl? I'm located in Australia. On s side note... which Stihl chain saws would you recommend for someone wanting to take on a salvage project for the first time. PS. Don't mind dealing with o/s suppliers.
I really like the Stihl 066/MS660 series because they are simple, solid, rugged, and have a ton of both used & am support options. Number two is the 046/MS460 and three the entire 044/MS440 family. They get a little pricy for what they are vs. the 660's that are a great "bang per buck" saw and can be built to match or have as much or more capability than any saw in their size/weight class.
Walt....how can you tell the year of the saw by the ser. no.? Thanks.
Have to wonder why they would go with the non metal bearing cages, cant just be cost there must have been data to backup the change. ?
+Steve Rob They changed back to steel caged bearings. Wonder if it was simply a supplier thing. If I build it back to an X-torq, it's going to get steel caged Nachi's vs. OEM. Even though OEM is back to steel caged bearings.
afleetcommand sorry for the loss Big Guy! Waiting for part two!:). Thanks for another school lesson, Sir....
Thanks for your good videos!!
I have buy two months ago a reconditioned 372xp 2010 .It was new oem bearings and a oem piston.
My local chainsaw dealer recomend 2T husky LS+ racio 1-32 (98 octane gas) for first four hour (during running in)cuting oak t tres .My mesh at the mufler is not there (the gases can take out more easy).
I use 3/8 lpx chain 18" 7 tooth rim / standard setings carburador 12500rpm max idle speed .
Do you recomend mixture 1-40 LS+ in future?
Can i change the setings of carburator to 13500rpm or is safer stay richer mixture?
Greatings from oporto Portugal.
André Campos
+andré Campos Stick with 32:1 with a good synthetic. I also use the Husqvarna XP synthetic 2-t oil. And 12500 is a safe place for those XT's highest you can safely take them is around 12800-12900. I would leave it at 12500... You set that at 13500 and it will take out the clutch side bearing after a year or so. Leave it at 12500..:)
+afleetcommand I'm assuming your 372 is an X-torq. The way you can tell is if the decomp is on the top of the cylinder vs. on the side where the old style 372's were. IF the decomp is on the side, that's a whole different game. Still recommend 32:1 mix but the old style cylinder was happy at 13500 no load RPM's vs. the 12800/12900 for the X-torqs (12500 is fine on those)
thanks for your response and advices. sorry for my next long history of my Husky baby.Mine is a recodit. 372 xp no x torq with some few minor damage for 250€ to my familys friend saw mecanic. I done a cirurgic clean of all air cooled components with a no acid fat cleaner in my husky,washed with soap and warm water the filter and clean air tubes to carburator-is almost like out of factory.
Last fresh mixture i use in tests has 1-40 racio but dont make the 2t smoke usual in 1-32 mineral oil. With LS+ all oil in mix was complete burned resulting only transparent smoke! I`m afread because some say is good for lubrification of bearings when a bit of smoke run out the mufler...Ls+ is a no smooke oil then are they talking about old 2T Oil ratio with mineral base. Maybe woodcuters with chain deep limiters out overload the crank at chain side and maybe they recomend 1-25 racio to prevent bearings wear.
Do you agree 1-40 LS+ mix in a very hot working saw cutting 16" oak tree and change to1-32 LS+ make diference?
I woud like mine go to 13600 making" four cicle" but that mean i have a lean carburator seting?
Last weak i make a test with full troothe in the wood i was scared with the cutting performance of the saw teeths tearing dry Eucalyptus.The saw stay high and torky -you say Tork is the way and i say the saw a sharp chain and good gas-mix and we need to have eyes wide open.
I can buy a x tork second hand but for me and for my ocasional work my 372 xp 2010 is my saw.MY second saw for colect will be a 2101xp.There are very few or a ultra rare the homelite super xl automatic.
I usual like to put foot on gas when cuting oak and Eucalyptus cuted end of last summer.
I only buy my husky saw because i usualy help by free my uncle and like to have my stuff in my garage specially tolls.We buy a used saw from 1984 and work"s by twelve years in hour hands very well. Is a pioneer|partner 550 saw,but at last summer, i need to wait 1 year to find another saw to be donor of carburator and ignition coil that my saw mecanic when out of beasy days is reassembly and for worst in the end i pay usualy only labor time
only for Know-and sorry to talk about : here in Portugal we have true blood race of horses - Lusitano. It is known there in US?
were in portugal some mate Lusitano with arabe blood for improve endurance performance. My uncle say the fealing when doing 36miles/h ride in top a thoroughbred (psi) horse nothing compares.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
greatings
André
Sorry for continue to use this way to have your valious fedback.
Today a 372 xt was put to sell at internet in my portugal for 310 Euros. I contact the logger and he said is from june 2014 with 500-600hours use.He sell with oregon bar and new chisel chain. The husqvarnaagent from the area give a good informathion of the company.They buy new 562 and they sell the more heavy 372xt with 8 month -1 year use.I have mine like i discribe xp new oem piston rings bearing. I can sell mine my mecanic he say in that same day he sell maibY from 250(me) to 350€-100€ profit for im.
I love the x tork because save gas,more high torque.I will wear the low rpm next 15 min 2800rpm and try to fell if there are lose of compression and try to see" if" the logger use the chain limiters or a bearings failure will apen in future.
Do you recomend to any special procedure to see litle important details?
Thanks and greatings from oporto Portugal
Sory i will need to stay old 2010 xp or 372 xt.
What your opinion of the crank,bearings xt2014?he use ls+ 1-32racio...
Is This problem inherent to the Jonsereds 2171 to? I just acquired one for free but it back together with aftermarket coil and it is a powerful saw.
no, the 2171 is pre xtorq and is about as solid a saw as exists
@@afleetcommand Awesome to know thank you I will keep it forever then
That's the problem with the 562 cost 375 dollars to fix it up
How do you know the signs of the bearing letting go ? without taking the clutch apart, does this happen to most saw's also i notice you may be able to fix the piston and cylinder.
+Maxx Bullet One of the first symptoms is the saw goes lean acting like it has an air leak...because it does! When the bearings begin to go they let the crank "wobble" opening up that case seal. By the time you can see movement by pulling either the clutch or flywheel around its too late. Junk will be everywhere. SO maybe I should do a video about pressure checking lower ends because that can help determine if said air leak is form places like the base gasket, transfer caps, or main seals. If the seals are going on a relatively "new" saw....think main bearings.. :)
That would be cool thanks i'm using the 576XP Auto Tune.
Hello!
Please can you tell me your bar size because i m puting a new piston seals and new crank bearings.
Thanks for your possible help.
Gratings from Oporto Portugal
André Campos
Hello!
I buy a light used 576 Auto tune but i would buy a bar from the seller. In your opinion the 20" bar to cut green eucalipt or oak is good with a 8 teth rim?
Gratings from oporto Portugal
André Campos
What do you think is a good aftermarket cylinder kit for 2005 570 x torque
Find a 575 top end. Not familiar with whats out there AM
www.ebay.com/p/Husqvarna-576xp-Cylinder-Piston-Kit-OEM-Kit-51mm-Part-575257406/565337324?iid=401526562609&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52475%26meid%3Dda212d67075b4a428d3ddde85b07bde3%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D112894938435%26itm%3D401526562609&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
How often have you seen these with problems like this? I have a 372 about 6 months old and love it I plan on getting at least one more for my tree service but would like to know if they have constant issues like this, I haven't heard any bad things in general and haven't had any on mine. Would definately like to stay with an all orange saw, can't stand egos on Stihl's and they
+Alex Matthews just dont cut as good in my opinion...
+Alex Matthews I doubt you will see an issue. The newer ones have steel caged bearings. And I can't for certain say they are an issue other than the ones I've seen with bad bearings all were nylon.
+afleetcommand Ok good! glad they fixed the problem, awesome channel btw
+afleetcommand and forgot to say sorry about the horse, especially in the circumstances :/ they are definitely part of the family...
I like your videos. I am also a man who likes working with his hands. I want to get into saw building projects. I do wood working and have a small sawmill, and solar kiln I constructed out of scrap lumber. I also like your truthfillness, its refreshing. The world needs more of it. Good luck in the future snd thanks for the video's.
I'd say convert it to "Old School" 372. Im a big advocate of the old phrase "Keep It Simple Stupid" (KISS). Cheaper and easier to repair/mod than an X-Torq. I know that this particular saw is a full time work horse so there's no mods on the horizon for this one. But god forbid it needs another top end down the road, it'll be cheaper to rebuild once again. Just sayin...
+Ryan Brown I think I agree. I have to be careful not to put my opinion in the mix.. I'm way more familiar with the old style ones... does that alter my vision?? Don't want to short change the X-torq's, just right now if I was to go with my gut...its old school for these folks.
I hope it will be a 372 XT
+Tibor Keresztes (kiskeri) Thinking of using X-torq top end with the dividers cut out of the filter holder, carburetor and intake boot... :)
+afleetcommand Sounds interesting, this would bee great to hear and see :)
Did one. Actually the one in that recent video was that build. I didn't put a lot of video time on the concept but a month later I can report it works.Very well. Only down side seems to be a little more fuel usage...
Hi friends.
I upgrated my 372 xp to a Xt than i m now reconditioning a 576 with Auto tune delete have a Zama 28 all Mecanic from a 576 no autotune.
Im true amazed with the two carburators and the six ports.The pistons will have new seals and new bearings.
Someone say this chainsaw have a bearing problems because the x torq tend to lean the mixtures,do uou agree.
I use husky Ls + in 1-35 safe racio but 576 save lote of fuel but that is a problem in lubrification?
Tanks for all
Gratings
André Campos
Some (Not all) 372XT's had bearing issues because some where assembled with nylon caged ball bearings.. :) But that is an opinion, I'm certain there are those who will disagree...
you need some heat in your shop. you're blowing smoke.
Hmmmmm Quicksilver only: rules 92 driver full house chains only timber tuff equipment only: 372 XP 5.5 HP and rest in peace ⚰️ let me know when you've burnt pint of fuel for back Mr flags croovy