Cobb County families say they are not wanted in rental properties
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- čas přidán 2. 02. 2022
- Tenants say they are being kicked out of their apartments not because they aren't paying rent, but instead how they pay rent. A CBS46 investigation found "source of income discrimination" is widespread, just as the metro's housing market explodes. STORY: bit.ly/3Q5QecX
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Section 8 is suppose to be temporary not a lifetime solution.
It's always lifelong with these women. They play the system and us tax payers foot the bill for all of their living expenses. Then they complain and act like the victim.
Its lifetime & passed on to the next generation. Once its starts, it becomes a endless cycle.
Then we need lots of jobs that pay a livable wage!?!?
"Good jobs" are like musical chairs, there's maybe one good paying job for every 50 people, the rest have to settle for service jobs.
WE DON'T PRODUCE ANYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY. All the good jobs got shipped overseas.
Inflation just goes on forever, wages stay the same and you're all out here seriously demonizing the single moms because they didn't have the connections to get that ONE good job out of 100 crappy available jobs?
I swear this whole country really WANTS to be completely split between a slave class and an owner class. This country wants its streets flooded with homeless, otherwise you would take it up with the top 1%, not the bottom 50%
How do you know how long they were on it ?
Well said , these people are leeches to society. I'm paying shit load of taxes just to feed their lazy asses.
Section 8 need to build their own apartment buildings to accept Section 8 vouchers..
Then that would basically be the projects. The section 8 program was intended to shift away from that model.
@@fspight28 they need to bring back the project
@@fspight28 correct!...section 8 was meant to be a stepping stone but for most it has become a way of life!....unfortunately.
@@a.c.6475 right unfortunately its hard to get off of these programs because unless you go from straight poverty to middle class (by income) that transition can be tough to make.
Projects is better than nothing Beggars can't be choosers
I stayed in a previous building with some section 8 tenants and I came home to $hit in the hallway. I didn't want to stay there no more. They were smoking weed in the hallway high all the time. People just sitting on the stairs blocking my way upstairs. I'm not saying all section 8 is like that but most are. Which makes it bad for the ones that's not unfortunately.
I don’t live in a section 8 residence and I also come home to shit and smelly haas and I pay good money. That’s not a good comparison
Amen!!!
@@mjay1638 exactly! My parents rented out their property to some people and they damaged their house. They poured concrete down the drains, stole the washer and dryer, let their pets piss and poop on the carpet. And the tenants weren’t on section 8.
@@brandybush6432 That's not exclusive to section 8. I just sublet to a young girl who works in Lowe's in corporate and she stole my items in the apartment. Secion 8 has nothing to do with it. it's really about the integrity of the people.
If I even think that an apartment complex I’m considering renting from accepts section 8, I back out and move on. Lived like that once and my new car was stolen 4 times in six months. Finally the car had to be totaled. These people smoke weed constantly, in and out of their units, mostly on the stairs. The garbage spilling out of their units into the breezeway and parking lots…etc…I don’t blame that no one wants to accept sec 8. You’d be crazy as a property owner.
It's definitely a stigma Sadly so many awful tenants have made it BAD for decent Tenants 😢
I agree some have made it bad for others
no I think it's more related with what they're able to charge now. they can hike the heck out of the rent if they dont accept the vouchers.
@@jusletursoulglobaby It's both.
There's Always going to be that one Person that Screws it up for Everyone.
Nothing anyone can do about it however
@@elmahdi5 could it be the many then?
My family were on Section 8 back in 2013. We literally couldn't find a single apartment complex that would accept us. We went to probably about 50+, and all of them said no. Luckily, we had a relative that let us come live with them for a bit to get back on our feet. Now my parents own their own home and is considered middle class Americans.
But it really is a struggle. The only apartment complexes that would accept you are the rundown ones in bad neighborhoods. I'm just glad my family was able to escape all that.
Usually, Section-8 includes a Rental Fee Ceiling. 😶.
I’m so sorry. Family really is everything. Wishing you and yours the best
@@dcg590:
Family Size One, too. 😶.
The real reason landlords don't like section 8 is because they can't hike up the rent's.
@@winning3329, They Can, but the Federal Government will only Agree to a Maximum Rental Subsidy. 😶.
Section 8 no longer pays for damages to property. So land lords get stuck with all the damages to the property. Ask any land lord who has done section 8 and they will tell you they don’t do it anymore and refuse to ever do it again. And in any real estate investment property section 8 is a loosing deal.
But I thought that's why landlords force tenants to purchase renters insurance? If you have renters insurance then the landlord is covered, right?
@TheMan Right Chea are you an adult ? I’m asking because you don’t purchase renters insurance to cover destroying someone else’s property. When I was in my younger days and rented a house renters insurance would cover my belongings if they were damaged or stolen such as house fire or a break in, that’s why renters insurance was so cheap it didn’t cover the structure that’s called home owners insurance. If you’re tenants destroy the carpet because they let the kids spill food and drink all over it or decided they want a dog or cat even though the lease says it’s not allowed that is not covered. Tenant break the doors put holes in walls clog the drain flooded the basement ruined the furnace and hot water heater dented up the stainless steel appliances broken windows all not covered by renters insurance that I am aware of. Besides let say insurance for that is 1200 per year and you have a deductible of 1000 that’s 2200 for every tenant that destroys you’re rental let’s say you get 3 bad tenants out of ten years time that’s 6600 dollars. Plus the loss of income while the work is being done on the property which means the bank note on that property is coming out of your pocket. These are all Midwest prices so they are cheap.
@Leftist nazi Censorship yes I am and I had to have renters insurance when I moved in recently. Have you had to buy any renters insurance lately? There's different types of renters insurance that will cover the landlord in case of damages to the property so most landlords make it mandatory to be able to rent. Maybe you haven't had the need to have renters insurance since you were younger and congratulations, but times have changed
@TheMan Right Chea according to all state they offer no insurance for if a tenant damages the rental. This is exactly why you have a security deposit on rentals. If such insurance existed then why wouldn’t the government mandate you have said insurance on section 8 renters to protect the tenants and the landlord.
@Leftist nazi Censorship the government is putting the ownis on private citizens
Than you jesus I paid my house off in 2019....this is a nightmare for people
Preach!!👍
Jesus didn't pay your house off, you did that. Congratulations
Nice u thought about ur self .
Just make sure you keep up with those property taxes rent or own you're still f****** screwed
@@treeamigo8447 Jesus did do it because if Jesus don't bless you with health and strength and motivation there's no way possible it could have happen .
News Flash people! Nobody wants the government telling them what they can and can’t do with their property. Did people really think that this no rent moratorium was not going to cause unintended consequences! No Ericka Williams spoke on this. Find her video on CZcams. I feel for the lady they were speaking to but she doesn’t get it because she is the one faced with the situation. It is time to be creative people. Figure out a way to get your own, if it means the whole family putting into the pot DO IT! If it means consolidating your income with a best friend, a group of best friends DO IT! If it means finding cheap properties with tax liens DO IT!
i listen to Ericka as well the writing on the wall if you dont want to read it it is up to u..but this whole i can do bad by myself mentality means u will litterally will be doing bad ..every other race pools thier resocurces and build and move on...we have to see the forest instead of the individual trees..living together 5 years with family/friends and contributing to the mortage and or rent can change your life drastically by helping you pay down bills and save for a house/invest if thats your thing..i live at my dads house and pay rent and i have been able to pay down my billls quicker since the 1500 i pay is cheaper than the 2500-2900 this is NYC rent btw, i would be paying if i was a regular tenant ..we as a people need to look into this
I'm a college-educated African American female who grew up in a segregated ghetto in MilwauKKKee and lived in the outskirts/suburbs of Atlanta (Chamblee and Lithonia) and Seattle for over 15 years. I'm not commenting from an "elitist" perspective.
However, it's been my experience that every time a luxury apartment complex relaxed its income rental requirements and allowed Section 8 tenant, the tenants same their children were LOUD, unruly, UNCIVILIZED, weed-smoking troublemakers. The cops had to be called constantly. When any of them was a neighbor in these luxury apartments, they never knew how to conduct themselves or their unruly children in a respectful, decent, and CIVILIZED manner. They continued to live as if they were in the WORST projects, "The Bluff" or on Stewart Avenue and they brought in prostitution, drug dealing and other unwholesome activities with guns. Trash was thrown everywhere. They commandeered the Clubhouse, recreation room, bar, grilling stations, pool and movie theater with LOUD, BOISTEROUS underground, profane gangster rap, hillbilly country music, DRUNKEN Bacchanalian feasts, and FIGHTS. All o that was just in Lithonia and Chamblee (Cavalier@100 and Montage Embry Hills).
They would bring in their thuggish friends and "hoochie mamas" who were ready to FIGHT you if you slightly bumped into them in the swimming pool. How they behaved in front of their little children and other resident's decent, well-mannered children by SCREAMING GD, MF, SOB, B and other profanities ruined the peaceful and quiet enjoyment throughout the complex.
Amazon and other packages at Cavalier started being stolen so much that an Amazon-like package hub had to be installed. At the carwash stations, they GHETTO BLASTED their profane, gangster cRAP music at all hours.
At Montage, when Section 8's were allowed in, their little ghetto children thought it was funny to pull the fire alarms. This happened at least 2-3 times per week at all hours. I noticed the decline in how these residents didn't care how they looked in community fitness center or other spaces. They allowed their children to play on fitness equipment and in the Business Center computer and faxes so much that there was a constant breakdown of equipment. The Section 8 men at the LUXURIOUS Reserve @SeaTac Senior Apts. that had a hair and nail salon, library and computer center, interactive fitness, yoga room, rooftop deck and jacuzzi, used the computer and printer to watch filthy porn and print it. Free computer printing privileges were taken away.
Even if you or management approached them politely to turn down their bumping bass music that reverberated through your walls, you would get CURSED (CUSSED) OUT! Some management staff became afraid of them and many HIGHLY professional staff resigned because of the extra stress and threats caused by these thuggish Section 8 tenants.
Looking at Muller in this video, even as a Black woman from the 'hood, I wouldn't want her as a neighbor. She's the prototype of the Section 8 THUGGETTE even I didn't want to cross.
I left Atlanta and returned to the Midwest where tenants are MORE CIVILIZED. I wasn't going to pay CHAMPAGNE rent in very LUXURIOUS apartments and have Section 8 BEER neighbors acting a FOOL 24/7.
Most of those apartments that rent to Section 8 are roach, rodent and mold infested anyway, but these tenants don't care. Which brings me to another point. I NEVER saw indoor roaches (not the Palmetto bugs) until the luxury apartments started allowing Section 8 tenants who don't think NOTHING of living with vermin.
You can have these Section 8 renters on TV who don't even look decent or innocent in this segment, but when you have to live next door to them, 9 times out of 10, they are the WORST! My ghetto neighborhoods in the 1960's in SEGREGATED MilwauKKKee had less drama and were MORE CIVILIZED.
Of course, decent residents from "up North" are considered "uppity" when we complain in Atlanta of Section 8 tenants' skunk weed smoke filling the hallways, smoking it on their patios with their LOUD talking profane family or friends, GHETTO BLASTING gangster cRAP music (MF, GD, BITCH, HO and SEXUALLY EXPLICIT LANGUAGE) on their patios, alongside the pool, clubhouse, outdoor grilling stations and carwash areas; it gets to the point where management gets tired of ME and other decent, civilized, hardworking residents complaining about them.
Growing up poor in the 'hood, I NEVER thought that I would ever utter the above-referenced complaints against any poor person, but these Section 8 tenants have CHANGED my perspective 180°. I've experienced the WORST of Section 8 tenants who were both Black and white outside Atlanta and in Seattle. Most of them reek of skunk weed or alcohol and the men are PERVERTED sexual harassers.
One further note. We grew up in houses in the 'hood, but even the ones who grew up North in the projects on Section 8 we're notorious for breaking and entering, stealing, dealing drugs, fighting, violence at school and other criminally-minded activities. This is not a "North-South" issue, it's a common decency issue that crosses race and regions. Whites who grew up in poor trailer parks are just as BAD when they transition into LUXURY apartment complexes.
Now, because of my harrowing experiences with Section 8 tenants, I ask if Section 8 or low-income residents are accepted. If the answer is, YES, I won't rent there. Since returning to Milwaukee, I can't believe how peaceful, quiet, and respectful my neighbors are and this is a far cry from my past luxury complexes. Most Section 8's don't know and never learned how to live in decent, luxury housing and they are so accustomed to a HIGH LEVEL OF DRAMA (gunfire and knife fights), they think you're being TOO CRITICAL just because they are GHETTO or TRAILER PARK BLASTING music!! A Section 8 leopard rarely changes its spots. Sorry Ms. Cummings, I know you mean well, but most stereotypes don't happen out of a vacuum. In the case of Section 8's, I've seen them in all their ghetto fabulous and trailer park glory WORSE deeds. They trash up luxury complexes literally and figuratively.
I usually never read such a long post, but as a landlord who has been burned twice by section 8 tenants, your comment say it all about them.
What’s really scandalous is home rental prices and the price to purchase a home in the US
Their behavior makes sense if you think about it. Look, I get it if someone is down on their luck and needs a helping hand to get back on their feet. But this cannot be said for the majority of section 8 tenants. They have been on section 8 for YEARS and have no plans to make some changes in their lives to get out of it, and become contributing members of society. Their children see this sense of entitlement and emulate it. The reason they behave like you described is because they get rewarded for it by the government. Before anyone says anything, this transcends race and ethnicity.
I am right there with you when it comes to NOT wanting to live in an area full of section 8 tenants. I don't have kids yet, but plan to have them in the future. Personally, I am all about working hard and taking accountability. I plan to engrain this mindset into my future children. However, when my neighbor has the mindset of taking advantage of the system in order to freeload, I run the risk of this mindset rubbing off on my children. Again, I don't care what race they are. I would rather live in a neighborhood where literally every other person there is of a different race/ethnicity than I am, but they are all hard-working families with good values, rather than live in a neighborhood full of freeloaders which happen to be of the same race/ethnicity as myself.
P.S. This whole "luxury apartment" thing is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. In fact, I can't remember the last time I say an apartment complex which didn't have the "luxury" prefix in front of it.
In general people do not take care of things that they don't contribute to. That's why if you buy a kid a brand new car when they're 16 they'll usually wrap it around a tree within a year. But if you make them work for, and they save up to buy their first car, they will usually take care of it. The lady can afford fake eyelashes.... yet we subsidize her rent.
I'm surprised they even allowed section 8 in the 1st place, in Cobb County.
I have rental properties, and I would say people are a problem in general. My properties are not on section 8, and issues still occur. Honestly, people have bad living habits regardless of where they come from.
I understand that the good have to suffer for the bad.
I am an excellent renter according to my previous landlords. Then I rented from a lunatic one who would scream at me for regularly deep cleaning his roaches infected rental. There are crazies on both sides.
This is why housing wasn't supposed to be turned into an investment scheme; & open to generic investor profit schemes instead of the requirements for humans to have housing.😒
This. Landlord for 7 years. Tenants are a problem. I'm selling 2 properties due to tenant issues. By end of year I'm out of the landlord game.
Yup! Had one great. One that wreaked it but paid for the damages, and one that wreaked it, and left without paying rent...didn't take section 8.
I don't accept any vouchers, on my properties. Usually the tenant have a big heart but they bring family members or mates which come with negative impacts to the property.
Same here, I say my properties are not approved for subsidies, the risk outweigh the rewards. Especially for people who say they want to burn everything down.
I hope you have a real job and don't just mooch of hard working people
@@Joe-dw1dy Man I live in a luxury high rise apartment and right around the beginning of the pandemic we had an influx of riff Raff that moved in make a long story short they took advantage on the rent forgiveness thing and within 6 months this place started looking like a ghetto 😔, as of 4 weeks ago we have had 22 forced evictions
@@IslamIslam-vj5fzMy property manager says misplaced sympathy costs you money. That’s why I don’t give none. Sorry but not sorry. I give donations in church and I make sure my business remains profitable.
@@Joe-dw1dy Oh make no mistake about it, 4/10 of those evictions were from whites. If I were to prejudge people it would be a according to age, anyone under the age of 32 would have a hard time with me.
They are going to be getting rid of section 8 and walfare period. Landlords have bills to pay as well. My heart goes out to the people who are being evicted hopefully they can find a place that still accepts section 8 but this is a wake up call the world is changing and people are going to have to carry their own weight because the safety nets are no longer going to be available like they were in the past. It's going to be really hard for a lot of people.
Everything going up except pay rate everything is changing except the pay rate, I pray people walk out off any job that’s paying them low wages people need to change like policies
Cobb County just don’t want any poor people living there…
@@KTC994 What are you talking about? Pay rates are good for skilled jobs.
@@lc6636 not all skill jobs pay high rates as welder I demand my pay if they say no then I move on because the next company will pay me like the company I work for they pay Spanish welders less
No they won't get rid of the program. What they are doing in many Cities across the US is convincing City Council members to create and vote for the "income discrimination" into law forcing all property owners to participate in the program or be faced with a fine from Fair Housing advocates.
It starts with media propaganda such as this video here that starts the ball rolling. Soon, in that City, the Section-8..... oh wait, "Housing choice voucher" program will no longer be a voluntary participation program. I have yet to hear of any large property owners file a lawsuit to fight this encroachment of our property rights. I hope many of them do, even taking it all the way to Supreme then Federal court to overrule it.
After 2 terrible section 8 tenants, I decided I would never do it again. Plus, the section 8 inspectors are garbage. Telling me I need to repair a sidewalk crack for safety reasons, but they won’t cover anything that the tenant destroys.
I've heard stories about section 8 renters. I would never rent to section 8 tenants if I have rental property.
That’s what happens when your landlord suck it up
@@shellyhunt4910 I'm not sucking anything up. I just stopped taking section 8. It's attitudes like yours, that has these women out on the street.
@@shellyhunt4910 No one has to take Section 8. It is not worth it.
I hope you have a real job.
This is how they force out poor people. Raise the rent and food cost.
Thanks to democrats welcome to Biden America
@@roberthelring6372 this was happening way before Biden. It's called gentrification
@@roberthelring6372 Just stop cause rent was high under Trump
It could just be called there an increasing number of tenants from section 8 that bring families and unwanted criminal activites with them. NOT ALL. Look at the projects in most areas. If you allow tenants to move into certain neighborhoods, you all know what happens. Let's be realistic. Many people work hard to live in a safe environment. Other than don't have to POSSIBLY can take it for granted or get involved with someone that does.
The news always says its going to affect minorities the hardest why because it's all planned out this is how they make money inflation but people also need to motivate themselves to learn to make money on the side diversify income start a business there's so many options buy a condo home or mobile home rv manage finances whatever needs to happen so its not you
There appears to be an epidemic of rental increases across the country!
It's rent gouging. State AGs are now suing landlords in some states for rent gouging.
@@PTSulon Tell that to the combined 30% increase in taxes and insurance I have to pay for my property.
They want to remind people the country is only for the rich.
And a increase of crookeness with Rental mgt companies accepting dozens of rental applications charging 50 dollar fees to apply,.then they deny the applications and keep the fees. The fee should be refunded.
No epidemic its called Capitalism...! 🇺🇸
As a black so woman raised in Michigan. I have seen my mom buy a fixer upper fix it with her bare hands with little help get it to code. That was her most prized possession. Section 8 tenants move in and left my moms house so horrible my moms stepped into the living room and dropped to her knees crying. I was only 14 at that time but I will never forget it
was it section 8 or just the behaviors of people. Regular renters tear stuff up too. That's why people require a deposit.
@@mariejane1567 no they purposely smashed the stove glass in. Took all the pipes and hit water heater. They smashed the toilet and put holes all in the walls all because my mother had to go through with an eviction because they were going to lose their section 8 but my mom has let them slide on rent for months. They were taking advantage. They did it purposely to hurt her.
@@mariejane1567 a deposit usually covers normal wear and tear. Not if a tenant leaves the property in ruins
@@mariejane1567 A deposit doesn't cover all damages.
Had friends who owned apartments and rented to a Mexican family. Well that family had other family members move in too. When they finally got everyone out they had to tear the walls down to the studs. They will never rent to Mexicans again
Income discrimination? Is that now now a thing? I've rented to Sec 8 tenants and it was great as a landlord, rent was always on time, no problems with tenants. That was a single family house. The only reason I can see for a landlord to get out of the Sec 8 program is the caseworker not allowing a rent increase or if they have a lot of Sec 8 tenants and having too many tenant problems. For example if there's a lot of damage to common areas the landlord may not actually know who exactly is the cause so just clears out the entire building. Like it or not when you look at a group of low income people there are actual reasons for some people being low income that aren't very nice. We can all pretend otherwise, but a landlord has to deal with reality.
Or landlords can sit on their a** on CZcams 24/7 trolling all the renters, nice "reality"
This is either a troll or you got very lucky. I know one landlord who thought her Section 8 tenant was the best ever until they saw the condition of the home after move out. It was completely trashed. Now she only does full market rent with no Section 8.
@@divinefeminineoracle5825 Not looking for a free ride? Why are you getting $900 a month for rent? Do you know that most disabled people cannot get into that scam? They have to use their disability to pay rent.
Sir, I was in a accident that injured my back. I had 42 years paid into the Social Security System since 1969. So I applied early and was approved for SSDI not SSI. So many people do not know the difference. SSDI is based on what you (I) have paid into the program. So yes I need rent assistance because most landlords want you to make 3 times the rent.
LMAO. I'm sure it's the caliber of section 8 families, and the problems they tend to create....
Looks like a few screwed it up for the rest .
Section 8 vouchers are generally correlated with bad kids, increased crime, and lowering of property values. The responses by property owners say it all. I do wish the family the best
Ya I think if its low income it should be you must be apart of the community and be sustainable no grass or you can't live here.
Thoughts.
I live among section 8 tenants and they keep to themselves.
I had section 8 tenants in a property I owned in another state, everything you described happened in that property. I found metal spoons throughout the place, in the yard, burn marks in the carpet. I'm not saying all people on Section 8 are like that but, I wouldn't do it again, no way!
I AGREE, GENERALLY CORRELATED^ IS THE CORRECT TERM.
Can't dispute this at all!! Women that are generally on housing attract lower tier men that don't work and look for women who receive these benefits..
If you know anything about dealing with Section 8 tenants. I don't knock landlords & apt buildings not wanting to deal with it. Most section 8 tenants are not good. I worked with 2 companies that oversaw 1000s of section 8 dwellings. It's a headache most times. Ill say this getting help don't mean you have to live filthy & tear people ish up.
Landlords own the property. The problem is not the landlords, the problem is the section 8 system. It’s a challenge to work with Section 8 - they need to make it more efficient abs fair for landlords. They are not consistent - inspectors are not trained in a way that shows alignment and the payments have to be at market rate. Otherwise why should landlords accept the system.
You're right. Landlords must follow certain rules when renting to Section 8 tenant. maybe the landlord in this story doesn't want to deal with the hassle of routine inspection.
@@lisadelpeche3371 All the inspections cover are basic things - working and safe electricity, water, etc. It simply isn't a demanding inspection. Recently my city imposed apt inspection on ALL landlords (for which they are charged) because of slumlords. who let their properties deteriorate and then had to be condemned. Hundreds of tenants were displaced last year because of this.
SECTION 8 apartment inspections force landlords to be accountable for the upkeep of their properties which they should be doing anyway. If a landlord can't afford basic repairs then they shouldn't be in business.
@@zencat55 for decades I've dealt with City Rental inspections. I appreciate the consistency of the Inspectors resulting in my providing a consistent product. I have never rented to section 8. Not the cure-all, but I believe any Landlord Tenant Agreements, subject to courts, the Landlord should be Certified in the County of the property. I have witnessed court cases where the leases were not functional. Because someone who owns property does mean they can read write or comprehend.
The thing is, Section 8 in many cities is run by socialists. Under socialism, making money is frowned upon if not prohibited. Socialism/communism mandates that everybody be equally miserable. The left turned what was supposed to be a hand-up into a handout.
I lived in an apartment building that after a couple of years of my living there they started accepting section 8 tenants.. Within least than a week, my clothes were stolen from the laundry room. Day and night there was constant foot traffic, loud music, loud domestic situations, kids running up and down the hallway and strangers knocking on my door (looking for the weed guy).
Exactly
S t f u sla ve, nobody asked to hear your 4 page letter.
Sorry you had to go through that.
Sorry some people are like that but I'm a teacher I'm on section 8 not people on section 8 are like that
Why would a property owner want their place to go to hell? Why should they be required to take undesirables and support drug addiction and laziness, what happens when all the tenants cars are broken into and stolen property or worse Rape or murder occurs on their property, I have to side with the renters
Very sad for those residents I know someone looking for somewhere to move and a one-bedroom is running $1,500 which totally ridiculous people please continue to expose this county it has a lot of corruption going on ✌️
Bridget, just because things dont cost what you want them too, doesnt mean its corruption. If you brought more value to society, people would hand you cash in exchange for that value. To blame "corruption" for housing prices is like blaming fast food restaurants for not paying each of their employees 100k a year. If landlords couldn't get those prices for real estate, the properties would remain vacant, forcing them to lower their prices. The market has spoke and it passed you up. Instead of complaining, do like a logical person and move to a place you can afford, focus on increasing your own income with college or a trade and start a business. When you commit to those steps and find success, your entire world view will be turned up on end.
@@treeamigo8447 very well put
@@treeamigo8447 hey we are in here in the real world get tf outta lala land
@@BMHBW1950
Being self sufficient = Lala land? Only in your community buddy.
This is an issue all over metro Atlanta and city of Atlanta.
Section 8 is a voluntary program for landlords nationwide...Why should any landlord be forced to give up rights or accept lower rent because lower income people have a voucher ? Fix those issues and you may fix the program.
Exactly. It’s your property and no one should be able to tell you what do with it.
But also remember how you treat others will affect you tossing people out with no options will come back to bite you in one way or another believe that.
@@126missday I WILL NEVER AGAIN RENT UNDER ANY SUBSIDY PROGRAM...been there..done that..lost tens of thousands of dollars...now the rest can suffer because of the " people" that came before them...when will those " creatures" that cost me so much receive the " reward" they earned?
@@nolongeranurse3369 I don’t know you or your story and god bless that you had the ability to have it where you could rent or own properties I’m speaking of those less fortunate who shouldn’t be tossed out such as these people in this video may god bless them with new & better housing situations.
@@126missday if those " Less fortunate" do not pay then they need to be " tossed out"...landlords are not charities nor the families of those " unfortunates" I busted my tail ( as a single mother)for 3 decades doing without luxuries and working 2 jobs to buy my home and my 2 rentals..so that when I am too old to work I can survive..I can not and will not subsidize those who will not do the same.
The problem is that SOME ‘section 8’ tenants are a headache not just to the landlord but to other residents who pay full rent. A good apartment complex can easily turn into a sort of ‘the projects’ when unruly tenants refuse to comply with noise ordinances(throwing wild parties) some destroy their units then request for a transfer which costs landlords thousands in repair and renovations of their trashed previous units, drug dealing, unruly underage kids running wild outside at all hours of day/night and smoking weed etc.
I’m NOT saying all or most section 8 recipients are a problem but some are. Which means if someone is only paying $700 for a unit they might not take care of it as much as someone else right next door paying $1,600 for a similar unit all out of pocket. The more money you pay, the more you tend to respect your unit and neighbors so not doing anything crazy that might get you evicted.
Also, it’s hard for a landlord raising rent prices when he’s accepting section 8 vouchers because many future residents coming from more expensive complexes are not willing to live next door to ‘poor’ people who might be around all day & night with potential problems mentioned above. ‘Luxury’ apartments come at a premium price which includes a ‘peace of mind’.
Those rich residents don’t want to park their BMW and Escalade next to a 1993 Honda Civic with missing hubcaps. The assumption is that that poor person parking next to you might be tempted to look into your more expensive ride and even smash your windows to steal your belongings so you’re mentally more relaxed if you’re parking next to other newer vehicles at home. Yes discrimination against the poor if you put it like that but that’s the way things are.
The woman doesn’t have a case even after calling the news because what’s being done is LEGAL so unfortunately, she has to move out.
You make no sense. I pay regular rent not section 8 and I scammed my landlords 2 time and got away with it. My friend who is in section 8 is like he has to be careful due to the high level of pressure getting kicked out of the program.
@@eyesofjesus2891 Your comment doesn't even make sense. Can you please repeat it, in English so we can debate this subject like adults.
*You don't get any credibility if your first instinct is to insult a random stranger because you don't understand or agree with his point.
Only thing we can decipher from both of your very poorly written replies is that you're some sort of scammer, a low income resident living somewhere in run down apartment complex and proud that you're able to pay a 'full rent' after finding some sort of a loophole which makes you assume that you're cheating the system through the help or assistance of a grifter girlfriend. Convince me otherwise! Haha!
@@isaac198428 why would I convince someone like you? Your view on people with lower lives is terrible. All I can say if I was your boss I would fire you for just by looking at you. People on section 8 are no body's concern. If you have a time where no one gives a crap about you and your broke then call up the program. Sure people stay on it forever but you got to remember everyone use to sleep outside at one point in history. At least we need to consider that and give everyone a roof over there head. If I was homeless I would be murdering everyone and getting rich by that so cause you are so cold to giving people benefits of having a roof over their head you might be rising more murders and robberys from the same type of people you called out. Study where your tax dollars go.....paying for welfare should be better then paying for a congress furniture upkeep and military spending to just gives weapons away to another country. Be the bigger adult and be humble.......peanut forehead buck teeth smiling coon.
That is true, unfortunately, exactly as you’ve described. I’ve viewed rentals that accept section 8 and/or private pay and you tell it is run by a slum lord. They aren’t kept up or maintained, which brings the market value down for rhe properies that surround them. No one wants that in their neighborhood.
This is about how much the government is willing to pay vs regular people who can pay much more.
I don’t think forcing owners to accept people with section 8 is right. We were property owners in NYC and whenever we accepted peope with section 8 they were difficult tenants and trashed the apartments. (I’m a person of color so no racism here, just experience)
At the end of the day owners are renting out their property and have the right to choose who they want in their building
If the government wants to give money for low income housing why not just create more low income housing?
You are so right. If the government wants to take care of 10's of millions of people and pay their rent and bills, then they should build government housing for their tenants and stop asking people who own rental properties to be their slave for their poor and low income dependents.
I agree, and this is well said.
Thank you. As a person of color it's baloney. Had sec8 and ditto. I'd never do it again! It's a lifetime entitlement program for those that are able-bodied
Or a better idea, how about these system suckers get a job so they can understand the struggles if the working class.
@Joyce Williams and exactly where all the system suckers need to be.
Crash or no crash, it’s stories like this that make me Grateful I was able to purchase my first home last year… I wish nothing but the best for anyone unfortunate enough to be in this situation…
Oh dont think homeowners are exempt. These banks are predatory lending n the housing associations are criminal...if you're working class you can be systematically put out as well...
@@imanjones3807 exactly
@@imanjones3807 exactly. Everybody thinks they're safe until they're not.
@@solidust573 the housing crisis in Akerica is at an all time high. I make close to 6figures and I will not put myself n a home around here in NJ anytime soon they are 500k and up...I will be in a financial bind trying to pay 3k...4k...per month for a mortgage not including the insurance, maintenance, water, heat etc...
@@imanjones3807 Exactly! Homeowners act like they've never heard of foreclosure.
I gave up section 8 decades ago … anybody with any sense would want to have more control of there outcome
People on disability (disabled citizens) are on section 8 too with fixed incomes. Let’s use our brains here.
it shouldn't have been legal to terminate that woman's rent if her rent was current and she did nothing wrong. They could've waited until her lease expired and then refuse to renew it.
The nerve of ppl in this comment section to shame others when they’re barely getting by themselves 🤣😭
Exactly….working poor
Exactly! don't brag about what you got or how you're living that's not the point of the story. I've been on section 8 13 years I live in Michigan luckily no problems that bad yet!
@@faithshaw5992 ....13 years and you haven't got off it yet
@@redmanjohnson4616 Section 8 is spiritually deeper than you think! Unfortunately I'm considered the working poor a slave who has roots from Egypt a house n*****. Yes I'm still on it and I don't plan on getting off of it anytime soon. The Lord made rich and poor take it or leave it!!
@@faithshaw5992 you’re a taker. It’s not supposed to be for 13 years. Someone else-tax payers don’t want to pay your way anymore. Get off the tax payer
How can it be income discrimination? Landlords are there to make money. Income, risks, the behavior of tenants, and damage are important considerations.
It is income discrimination. On the landlords that is. Many, & I mean many of us didn’t get paid any rent for now going on 2 years. Let alone behind the scenes new laws via ea. State was enacted making it nearly impossible to evict tenants that don’t pay now. Also no one considers that when these disgruntled bums leave the damages left behind easily totals over $10k for each apt and that’s per year. Most importantly not paying rent & damaging isn’t considered a crime. And most of these bums are “judgement proof”. So even if u win a settlement against them, it’s only a moral victory. Totally not worth it!
@@Blah-blah-sure I have worked in property management for over two years....How is it income discrimination on the landlord. Section 8 is guaranteed income.
@@sweetladyfromdc when a City passes the "income discrimination" law, it is a law against landlords who will be fined when they refuse to participate in the program that already reduces the fair rent amount by at least 25% expecting landlords to be a charity operation. In this case, it is income discrimination against landlord's. They expect us to provide low income housing for a loss, at our expense. Why would we maintain rentals, follow all the laws, permits, regulations, cover many expenses for property taxes, insurance, etc., and suffer the headaches of dealing with rentals/tenants just to lose money? Income discrimination against landlords in this form will never work.
My City made this law last May, thank god we got rid of all but one so far inner city rental. We will sell that one after tenant moves out. The rest of our properties are in townships outside this City. So that outrageous law does not affect us. I can still say "NO" when they ask if I accept S-8. I will NEVER participate in that program again. It is a nightmare and serves to devalue the community bringing crime and drugs when single mother's move in. Her loser boyfriend/baby daddies are hanging around behind the scene's to be taken care of by them.
By the way, S-8 is not guaranteed income. They abate the rent every time the tenant fails to keep their recertification appointments or when tenant fails to fix tenant caused damages that were found during annual inspections. S-8 is also notorious for slashing the rent when tenants (single mother's) children turn 18, reducing her voucher from a 3 bedroom to a 1 bedroom voucher while still living in your 3 bedroom house, you suddenly get a one bedroom S-8 rent price. Of course with no explaination from S-8 why your rent was slashed $125 a month 25 years ago when the rent was about $600. That's a significant rent drop causing income discrimination against landlords.
Right, no such protected status…..
@@Monipenny1000 it doesnt work that way in mn. If your voucher goes down to one bedroom you have 60 days to find a one bedroom. Either way you have to move you cannot stay in your 3 bedroom apartment you are not allowed to stay in a 3 bedroom if thats not what your voucher approves. So if your child ages out you have two options move or stay and pay full rent if you can afford to. If you cannot afford it you have to go.
0:26 Everything had to be packed in boxes....including her husband? WTF?
He died she had his ashes
“It’s Not just her husband in that’s in that case. Her hope are in there too.”
I didn’t wanna laugh
You can't make landlords except Section 8 vouchers.
Can’t make people accept accountability for their own actions.
thats right. had a buddy deal with it for years and too many issues
accept*
@@lyric2439 oh snap,the grammar police in the house.
You're right, they can't until the City Council passes the "income discrimination" into law like they have already done in many Cities across the Country. It starts with propaganda news media like this one to get the ball rolling.
I remember when Cobb county started closing down all the recreational centers and pools in the black neighborhoods!
Did they give a reason why?
@@SHAWNA499 I know there was some things being said why, but that's been over 10 years ago so I can't recall!
Because they (rec centers and such) were hot beds for crimes.
Section 8 does not automatically = Black
@@wizardofahhhhhhz of course we know that! I'm just speaking on what I saw in Cobb county back in them days!
Unfortunately here in California people are having a difficult time finding landlords who will accept that voucher section 8 is slowly disappearing property owners don't want to comply to the rules accepting vouchers anymore simple as that
Nobody wants to deal with irresponsible tenants which most of section 8 renters are.
@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 Do you know most section 8 tenants ? I think not I know people on section 8 and they keep their places up well and obey all rules on property. It has to do with section 8 having a cap on rent in certain areas and landlords wanting to raise rent. You sound just like those ignorant fools who believe women have babies for welfare money when in reality they only get an increase in food stamps.
You are correct@little monkey...they dont want to go by the cap rule and therefore are not renewing leases.
@@insearchof9903 You sound delusional
@@emperorcommodus2315 OK, so I'm delusional. But it still doesn't change the truth...I've been on section 8 before and have gotten food stamps...so I know how each works even if it's been over a decade since I had it.
The house that i was renting got sold cause they tearing down the neighborhood so we had to be out by Feb 28 an i cant find no apartment or a house who take section 8 so me an my kids had to move our stuff into a storage an move in with their Dad this whole move has been stressful an our cat ran away cause she was stressed an scare of all the moving. Just pray for me an my family that we find a new place soon🙏🏿🙏🏿
I will pray for you but you must do it too. It takes two in midst
I’m sending some prayers right now. Xoxo
Not enough affordable housing, section 8 has no time limits, a few bad tenants spoil it for the rest, a government that tied landlords hands on evictions for non payment of rent during the pandemic and so on and so on. Landlords have the right to decide who will be their tenant, they own the property. Property taxes are constantly increasing and capping Section 8 rent, hurts the owner financially. Let the government build affordable housing and maintain the property for purely Section 8 Voucher holders and wait a few years and see what the property ends looking like. They have low income properties all across the country and the majority do not look like desirable places to live.
Lets not put the upkeep at the foot of the tenant...Have you heard of owners not wanting to upkeep the property or slum lords?
A few? Unfortunately an overwhelming amount which is why landlords say no. Most have been burned making it hard for good tenants sec 8 or not. It’s too bad. Most people are doing the best they can
@@lucypearlmorgan3115 hughh but
I work in property management. I'm doing the same thing...cleaning section 8 out of my property. It's just too expensive
How is it expensive?
@@eyesofjesus2891 one caused me to lose my property when she was accused of selling marijuana
@@emilystevens6335 atlanta took your property from you? Or you was kicked out the program?
@@eyesofjesus2891 no i wasn't kicked out. that happened 20 years ago. not in ATL
I agree with you 💯 %
My sister had section 8 for years. She was a single mother and had some beautiful homes and apartments. She lived in Marietta for 4yrs and it wasn't her being a bad tenant.. it was the landlords who didn't want to fix anything. She even told me that they have landlords who will pay inspectors just so they can pass inspections. As far as the amount of rent goes. Section 8 paid the landlords way more for the places than they were asking for. My sister has been blessed with her section 8 since she had it. It allowed her to get a degree in pharmacology and raise her children without the stress of being financially burdened. Plus section 8 will raise your rent depending on your income. My sister had a beautiful home and her rent was over 2000 a month. Once she started working section 8 only paid 100 of her rent. So I think no one can blame the tenant or the landlord. It should be on a individual basis.
She chose to be a "single mother". Can't blame others.
@@20alphabet she "choose" the wrong dude lol
Idk your sister, but my tenants would break and did break everything! Even the furnace pipes, from not paying their bills, the utilities were shut off and the whole place froze! Also packed it with garbage! And animal poo, what scumbags. Im done renting.
Your sister was a leech in society. They should cancel all those damn programs. Women like your sister are just spreading their legs and breeding without any responsibilities.
The thing is landlords have the right to not:
- renew leases
- accept Section 8 voucher
- accept people who don’t have a certain credit/income
The Section 8 program needs to have their own housing for voucher holders.
I agree...and they did try " public housing" AKA the projects from the 30s to the 70s the section 8 program was implemented because they found the projects became unsafe slums that even police wouldn't venture into. Research Cabrini Green ..Jordan Downs..Pruitt Igor..Johnston Square..Magnolia homes ect
@@nolongeranurse3369 oh I’m aware of Public housing which isn’t the same as Section 8.
@@jaybae7315 correct..section 8 and public housing are different programs..as are section 42 housing..section 21 housing ect..but they all are subsidized housing
You got that right!!!
In this case, the management company and section 8 could not come to an agreement on terms (most likely rental increase amounts) and now everyone that participates in the voucher has to leave. Not because they are bad tenants.
One of the other issues is that a lot of people from other states are fleeing to the south and paying up front 3 to a year worth of rent. That is driving landlords away from section 8.
Section 8 tends to have baggage and riffraff with it. Plugging that into the fact people felt entitled not to pay their rent because of these eviction moratoriums, well, there you go. Entitlement only gets you so far.
I will never again rent my property to a section 8 tenant it starts off just the female and maybe kid then, here comes the boyfriend, then cousin, then more kids, now I cant get them out, have to waste money filing for evictions; when u do they have the nerve to mess u property up...naw..go to work..
I love section-8 tenants with a good background and good references. They're good, hardworking people and the rent is always on time because the government's paying for it. Very reliable.
Most section 8 voucher holders are women who bore children of unproductive men. It speaks to their decision making. I wouldnt accept it as I've seen the damage a single woman with multiple kids can do to a property.
@@finalchapter24k how about you lay the blame where it belongs , on the decision making of the so called "men" to be unproductive" and lousy , absent , irresponsible deadbeat "fathers" . smdh
@@shari9721 Exactly. Or just blame 'bad tenants' instead of EVERYONE on section-8 in general. I grew up in section-8 housing as a kid. I remember my mother making us clean the corners and the stairs in the house with a freakin' toothbrush! Everything had to be spotless and clean when she came home from work and we all cleaned the house on Saturday morning together.
@@finalchapter24k
Section 8 is mostly Senior Citizens, And People Retired On Social Security.
Single women with children are mostly employed at low wage jobs.
*ONE DAY STUPID PEOPLE WILL REALIZE THAT THE FATHERS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MOTHERS BEING SINGLE!*
Some women are criminals themselves!
*Some Like To Play The Call The Police Game!*
*Many Don't Want A Man In The House!*
*Some Of The Fathers Died In The Military, From Gang Activities Innocent And Guilty, Some Being Innocent Of Crimes Murdered By Police, and The Last Are The Ones In Prison.*
Fathers not there doesn't mean *A Man Is Not There!* Or the fathers themselves.
@@EricaYE6
We washed the walls! *And no matter where we lived, My Mother Made Us The Janitors Of The Building!*
We had to mop and sweep the stairs and keep up around the building!
6 Families In Most Buildings!
*Our Halls Didn't Smell Like Piss!*
A friend of mine owns two apartment complexes. He almost went bankrupt when forced to eat the losses incurred by Covid while people were living rent free and then bolted without paying the past due. He's now replacing those hand-to-mouth renters with people that have sound financial resources.
Damn
Sadly he is discriminating against those that will pay they rent and did their own replairs during a time when even those with "sound finance's" didn't have that. Not all low income people trash the property and don't pay rent. Most of them pay the rent, don't complain about no maintenance and just do it themselves. Landlords and management companies need to do a better background check on applicants before outright denying their applications because their are alot of people with great income that don't pay their bills. I'm an example of those that had their income disrupted by covid closers, but paid my rent and my bills on times, not once touching the savings or emergency funds because shifted my business. No it was no where near what I made before but it paid the bills.
Wow how sad. I pray all these people find a safe home. I couldn't imagine this happening. 💙🙏💙
@Joyce Williams you sound insanely ignorant, lowly and ungodly yourself.
Yes, it's the same in Wisconsin 😩
pay full rent or leave simple
The journalism is really dead or their brain doesnt function anymore, or they are simply bad people; the landlords used to love section 8 until section 8 changed their policies such as no paying for properties damages, no paying what its has to pay, and on and on.
As market rate renter for all my life (denied from section 8) I say get rid of it. My aunt has been on section since I was 8 I’m 29! Get rid of that ish
That's the thing about welfare they cut you off before you're on your feet well enough to stay on your feet so unless you get a really good lucky break, you're stuck in the cycle.
While I feel bad for these ladies but I understand why people don't want Section 8 renters. My family owned property and section 8 renters were the worst. I have seen whole apartment complexes go from beautiful rental apartments to a ghettos in a couple years. It is unfortunate that the bad apples make it hard for the rest but there are so many bad apples in the Section 8 pool that if you value your property you don't want to fool with them at all. I hope these women eventually find something because they seemed like the good ones.
@@elizabethcool2241 While I agree with you that not all section 8 tenants are bad there are enough bad ones to make dealing with any of them a bad deal for a lot of landlords. Also, I think you are sadly mistaken about renting being a thing of the past. Housing prices have outpaced wages and it is becoming painfully clear that the average person is not going to be able to afford a home. The average home price is the US is 374,000. Very few people are going to be able to realize the dream of home ownership. This is why being able to rent is going to be very important for people if they want a roof over their heads.
Ah! Thank you Cobbs County! There’s a multitude of reasons why this big company stopped. For the record not all sec8 tenants are bad. The problem is that there’s far too many across the whole country that are. 2) section8 never kicks anyone out of the program due to their lease busting bad behavior 3) The tenants absolutely demolish the apt & there’s no repayment to the landlord they just move on to the next apt. Lastly laws for discriminating against them won’t work. or capping rents this will only worsen the problem. I for 1 have had enough of their criminal behavior & wouldn’t dare rent to them again.
Spoken like a true American huh? We get it it’s not your problem so the heck with them right? Right
@@jed3443 Right! I’m sending a like to your comments. Alright!
Blah blah blah
We hear you Ken or Karen because ONLY voucher holders destroy apartments; spoken like a true Christian who doesn’t have a racist bone in their body 🙄
@@0124twinlc ....how you know that person ain't black dumbass
Section 8 should only be for the elderly and disabled who are not able to work.
Says who? You?
These people have to WORK and pay massive taxes to achieve the ability to utilize Section 8. Credit card holders better be aware of their bias because they will soon live under the rules being made up s they go
@@sandycheeks3473 I feel the same way. Who am I? I'm a taxpayer.
@@sandycheeks3473 says common sense taxpayers
You might as well say you want a slave class that exists just to live in hell and enrich the already disgustingly wealthy
This isn't a "income discrimination", it's a Government force into private property owners business. They won't call it what it really is. Yet they still can not phathom why landlords refuse to participate which is largely a voluntary program until a City passes the "Income discrimination" law. In those Cities, if a housing provider is caught refusing S-8 tenant, they will receive a huge fine. You know it's bad when they have to force property owners to participate since there are not enough willing participants in the program, they have to force all landlords into it. It's complete BS!
We invested in rentals many years ago in the City near us, we used to accept S-8. We had our experience, it sucked really really bad so we stopped accepting it about 25 years ago. At the same time, we also stopped buying inner City homes as we were buying far better houses in very good areas to upgrade for better quality tenants. Thank goodness we started selling out inner City properties years ago when tenants moved out. Because since last May, the City passed this ridiculous law. We have one house left occupied by a tenant for 15 years. Have wanted to sell it for the last 10 years but we don't sell unless they are vacant.
I will NEVER accept S-8 again. Not only from being burnt badly by the last S-8 tenant but the program itself became intolerable to deal with. The rent amount alone is minimum 25% below market rate and at least 50% below market rate for our much better rentals. We're not in this as a charity.
I feel your pain. What city or state are your properties in ?
It’s another step towards socialism unfortunately. The govt or in this case the city, has NO BUSINESS in your private contracts in your property. NONE. I feel for landlords
My elderly uncle in Birmingham rented out their old family home on section 8 and he says it was a nightmare. When he finally got the renter out, he let the house sit empty for some years until he ended up selling the house to a property investor who was willing fix the damage that was done just to be done with it. They turned it into a boarding house.
Exactly
APARTMENTS SECTION 8 WILL NOT ACCEPT PEOPLE WITH DEFAULT ON THEIR RECORD.
No evictions..no felonies..no sex offenders..no gang or drug charges
This is a national issue. They're doing this in my city too.
The excuse used in CO was some of the section 8 Tenants Did NOT pay their portions to the Landlords as required. They are Not required By Law to Accept. Some if the Case managers were Not fully Vetting the applicants, rather using Nepotism and Favoritism to hand out Vouchers! It is Wrought with FRAUD.. If you are on Housing you can have a friend or relative stay for 2weeks max. This is to keep Generations from piling up in one dwelling. Some have been known to have a section 8 dwelling in more than one state. There are families found to be sharing children State to state for qualifying food stamps and welfare. There are some driving a Lexus while receiving 1,000.00 or more in SNAP benefits. REAL TRUTH #EyesWideOpen #StopFraud #WorkHardDreamBig #NoRespectifitsFree
Yes it is a nationwide crisis and the almost 2.3 million head households on the program are not involved and engaged to make changes.
Detroit Michigan too
Some landlords don't want to rent to Section 8. That's just a reality that you all are going to have to accept.
Until the "income discrimination" law is passed in that City. That's the whole purpose of this media propaganda, to pave the way.
Monipenny1000 they still do not have to accept section 8 tenants. They can apply but you do not have to accept.
@@Monipenny1000 Blackrock is buying up homes. They have money and power. This is what they want to happen. Better tenants and higher rent.
It's never everybody. So it's not ALL Section 8 tenants.
It's just ENOUGH trifling Section 8 tenants to mess it up for ALL.
You also have to look at the crime rate of Section 8 approved areas.
Well poverty does breed crime as we are all aware, however, these cases should be handled on an individual basis.
It’s not about that it’s about the possible increase in income that’s all
You can blame the moratorium for this...i work in real estate and alot of properties had to deal with mass evictions after the moratorium was lifted due to some renters refusing to pay....not all renters, but a good number of people abused the system and saw it as a way not to pay....was hearing it and seeing it as i worked property to property....its a lesson in a few bad apples will always spoil it for the bunch...
They can all blame their non-paying neighbors for that has happened with rent increases.
It wasnt just sect8 people abusing that system.. I know people who were applying for rental assistant that were claiming they didn't need it but since it was there they were going to use it.. Plenty of RENTErs and mortgage holders were taking advantage of the moratorium.
I dislike when
@@jbar_85 exactly. Few bad apples were not section 8 because section 8 were paying at least a percentage of the rent every month.
@@sophiasmith5949 Yep, I know my neighbor did it. People took vacations but didn't post about them on IG and then bought new cars tvs and now you see them on LocalNews saying that no one cares about them and now they're homeless. SMH.
@@sophiasmith5949 mortgage holders still have to pay at some point. The squatters are getting off free. It’s a crime to steal. Not paying rent is stealing, point blank
My Section 8 tenants are my best tenants.
I bought my house 10years ago.... I was on sec 8 for 12 years before that and I saw this coming so I did better for myself and got out while I could.
Congrats
That’s how you’re supposed to do it, use it while needed, better your situation and then leave. A lot of people are too comfortable with the government taking care of them.
You go girl 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👑👑 so happy you looked out for you and your future!!!
👍👍
The disabled, and elderly should be the only ones benefiting from section 8. These women need to learn skills so they can improve their income. An education in a in demand field would change their lives. Nobody is coming to save you.
The first woman they interviewed was elderly and she is a widow
There are people with degrees homeless! Now what?!
Eh, but you are wrong! Fear not, there are politicians coming to save the wage less state dependents. Instead of new schools and bridges they will spend tax payer $ to fatten and house the dumbest, angriest , most useless ppl in our society for no purpose other than to sustain hyper-consumerism . A whole generation of walking, talking, shit throwing do nothings.
Exactly, they so educated so why are they still on section 8 after all these years not thinking the gravy train wasn't going to end???
Yeah, sounds good but you act like they can do that before they get kicked out. 😏
Landlords like everyone else has the right to say no. Sometimes the landlord just dont want to deal with the gov't rules because im sure its not easy for them either. See it from the landlords side and not just from a tenant view. I dont care the color of a person or level of education, you can always say no. Ever had someone to ask you for a place to sleep and you told them no because of your own personal reason, just like you can say no another person can say no too.
Landlords should get real jobs but yes, they do have the right to say no.
@@taylorbug9 Real jobs? Maybe the tenants on section 8 should get real jobs and off our tax $$.
I'm a landlord who doesn't accept section 8. I work 50+ hours a week in manufacturing. To be honest, people are sick of the entitlement. The lady crying she had to pack her husband in a box comes off as ridiculous
The working class needs to be close to job opportunities. There is no reason why nonworking adults need to be in the city. ATL is known for it's night life. From what I've seen, section 8 women love the clubs but that's not what is important to communities.
Communities want productive member of society. Wages are increasing and so are rents. We have a retirement crises. More people drawing from the system than paying into the system. Nonworking people need to live in a cheaper area with cheaper rent.
@@anniealexander9616 people are sick of the entitlement. The entitlement of landlords. Who think they deserve extra money just because they got a bank to give them a second mortgage. Why do you think you deserve to add extra costs to the housing market? Why do you think you deserve to have any of your expenses met just because you took a second home off the market that could have gone to somebody who actually would have owned it and used it as a home? Why do you think you deserve any of that? For nothing? You don't build the house. Most landlords don't maintain their properties as well as homeowners do. We can't even get our landlord to fix a door and it's a multi property company that's been in business for over 20 years. They make over $900,000 a month from this property alone (obviously I don't know they're expenses) but I know they have the money to fix a door. Yet it's been broken for THREE YEARS regardless of how many times I complain. There are entire laws set up for exactly how to withhold rent from landlords because that's how often you guys don't hold up your end of the contract. It's pathetic that you're seriously going to sit here and act like you deserve extra money for taking home out of the housing market.
@@anniealexander9616 🤣🤣🤣 wages are increasing, that's a good joke.
@@taylorbug9 I got a raise at work and I increased rent. My employer offered $2k referal bonuses and $3k to the new hire. Now it's $5k bonuses for new hires with certain skills. I also received a $500 bonus to get vaccinated. I was already vaccinated and only had to show my card.
People who give up in life are people who lose in
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Across the country people with or without section 8 are being treated like this for two years now everyone in that department know about it.
Sec 8 is a headache to deal with. The caseworkers, the program, & the tenants tear up your property…(Not all, but most)
Finally a comment that reflects reality.
Why don't you guys do a background check for the section 8 tenets and whats the difference between regular income tenets who can still tear up the apartment? You can take both to court section 8 doesn't protect them from damages also. They also lose their voucher. Can you explain?
@@eyesofjesus2891 Honestly it’s a waste of time..It’s truly a headache for the owners. I’m speaking from experience. It’s not worth the hassle, the stress of battling with the program to receive a fair rental amount, the constant repairs at inspection that the tenant made, I WILL NEVER ALLOW another sec8 tenant in any of my homes…it’s just not worth it…
@@prettyladie8327 what if I rented one of your properties as non section 8 and damaged your home?
@@eyesofjesus2891 You could, anyone can damage a home. However, the chances are increased with sec 8. Everyone has a choice, I worked hard to improve my credit & save thousands of dollars to purchase my homes..It wasn’t easy for me, both parents are deceased, I was only making 26k per year, I know the struggle..I went days without food just to pay off debt so that I could improve my life..Anyone can do the same…God bless you…
Its crazy how the tenants are flipping the blame on the landlords. The grimey tenants make it hard on the good ones. I don't blame the landlords.
not all landlords are trash, and not all section 8 are trash...ive seen my share of both, if they are good section 8 people i dont see why they cant stay
If she was an issue they would of written it out in the eviction notice
U full of it if that person or family not known for being bad tenants then why not just get rid of certain ones instead of getting rid of everyone can’t sit here and try to justify somethin that is just str8 wrong 💯
That's discrimination.
This is why they build “project housing” but who really wants to live in project housing, smh
How about stop having all those kids and instead go get an education, a trade, open up a business, stop buying newports, weed, black n milds, weave and playing video games all day then maybe you will not have to stay in the projects or even get on section 8, it should only be for the elderly, veterans or the disabled not a bunch of single baby mommas who continue to have more children in order to get more benefits.
@@emperorcommodus2315 if those “projects” were located near public transit lines and in neighborhoods with amenities within walking distance, I bet that more people would be begging to be allowed into those developments.
Yep that’s right they don’t get enough money from section 8 and they want to go up on the rent double the rent and if you don’t pay you have to go
That's not the reason why landlords hate Section 8. It's because section 8 tenants behave badly vs. those who have to pay 100% of the rent plus damage deposit.
@@flashoflight8160 regular pay tenants are also bad. Watched one vandalize the inside and outside of a house since the owner wouldn't renew his lease. The tenant voiced there was black mold in the lower level but the owner wouldn't remedy it and took him for eviction. Definitely don't think that was the way to deal, he should have just left.
They are doing this all over the country! I travel for work and this is happening everywhere.
Some areas do not want a certain income class living near them! This is what senators and congress created! Welcome to America!
Rightfully so!
Yes rightfully so. We saved and saved and built a house in a nice neighborhood where people take care of their homes and yards and go to work, no crime no cops, no trash and no loud parties. Damn right I want to keep it that way and so does my neighborhood. We EARNED it so keep that crap away from here.
I live in a middle working class neighborhood and own a home. I would love to live in an upper class neighborhood but my income restricts me. I live where I could afford. If someone in my neighborhood started taking section 8 with low quality tenants, I would not be very happy. I work too hard to take care of my home financially and physically. The same thing for renters most people pay fair market rent and work very hard. Most people who pay for better areas to live in are doing so out of their own pocket.
It probably has to do with section 8 rental inspections.Onece you try to rent out your property to section 8 they want to send city inspectors who will say unit is unsafe and make a list of 10k in repair to rent to section 8.Thats why it's better to rent to people who work.
@Tanisha Lee Jones I just call it like I see it.Sorry if truth hurts God bless and hope things get better
@Tanisha Lee Jones she knows that. But you know what she was subliminally trying to say🙄
WOW....WOW!! This same thing just happen to me in November 2021 with the Atlanta Housing Authority. I am a 65 plus year old disabled senior citizen. Landlord refused to fix broken stove, leaking bathtub and the housing authority terminated my assistance & demanded I move out. I thought there was an eviction moratorium due to Covid. I had no where to go.
It sounds like that landlord got tired of all the ridiculous S-8 rules and refusal to give any kind of a decent rent increase. S-8 is really bad about that.
This is the thing that bothers me, especially for seniors. Young women in their 20s on section 8 who choose not to work popping out kids is much different than responsible people. There needs to be new laws enacted to protect seniors and the disabled.
Sounds like the landlord didn't want to pay for repairs when he knew he couldn't raise the rent to offset the cost. That's what happens when you limit rent increases. No rent increase, few repairs.
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This happened to me in (20221). Landlord didn't want to to do repairs. Instead of doing repairs, he refused to take my rent payment but turned around and filed for an eviction for none payment of rent, and I blame the Section 8 inspector for for most part. In April/2012. I moved into the house after the Section 8 inspector done the inspection, but while I was putting things away, I noticed that there was a lot of things that should have been fixed before I moved in. I even asked the inspector (3) times who done the inspection, but he didn't know, but I found out by another employee,it was him who done the inspection.
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The county should buy and build their own low income housing projects..
Cobb County used to have housing projects, I grew up in 2 of them. They tore them all down and condemned them in the 90s/2000s. They didn't want to have housing projects in Cobb County
They have built em. It's called, "Jail."
@@antonio_g237 trolling? sad and ignorant
Exactly
@@grazful1 In what year, did you become programmed and conditioned, to parrot the term, "troll?" LMAO. have you called anyone a, "raaaaaaacist, this week or last?
You can't make a person accept something that they don't want that would be unconstitutional
Then give us some actual affordable housing.
Or is genocide by gentrification the whole idea?
@@cosmicllama6910NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING
@@cosmicllama6910 United States is a big country there's plenty of places to move where the rent is dirt cheap there's parts of Arkansas parts of Tennessee where the rain is like $300 you could always move there
@@ranwithit1907 oh but we owe our loyalty and our labor to our slave drivers huh?
We owe it to them to work ourselves to early graves for no healthcare, no maternity leave, no vacation time, no retirement and no homeownership in sight.
Yeah right
@@ranwithit1907 are there many jobs in Arkansas? I'd sure love to move if landlords didn't love taking the majority of people's paychecks every month, moving is also expensive you know
Instead of threatening to penalize landlords for not taking Section 8, ask us WHY we don't want to take Section 8. Then make the changes to make it better! Landlords have told them, but they won't listen/don't care.
Many of these women rentals are in gentrified areas..So if as the owner I can do a few renovations and get 1500 for an apt or deal with the govt who at times don't pay on time and let's be honest some section 8 tenants
bring in Pookie and Rayray who arent on the lease well I wouldn't renew their lease either ijs
Maybe the eviction moratorium backfired.
No one cared about the landlords during this process. Rental housing is a business and not a charity. Although individual section 8 tenants may have continued paying their portion of the rent on time there were probably enough of them that didn't and they may have trashed the places and the landlords said forget that crap. And remember the landlords were not allowed to charge late fees either. So the landlords took a big hit. Apartment complex owners could probably recover (but their investors expect a return on their money) but individual landlords, as in single-family homes, a lot of them lost their properties. The eviction and late fee process exists to allow persons on section 8 to continue to have a place to stay. Remove that landlord protection and the landlord opts out. I figured all the government interference would have also caused rent to rise and for landlords to demand higher or more upfront fees such as security deposit and first and last month's rent.
Maybe?
Exactly!! Imagine being a landlord, not getting YOUR money but seeing a bunch of AMAZON packages on the step every other day. Ijs 🤷🏿♀️😌😌
@@nakitapalmer656 dang that's bad
This happened to two friends of mine but the complex let them live out their lease
In auburn Alabama a luxury apartment complex turned into a ghetto overnight when they started accepting section 8. Look that up
She is exactly right. The same thing happened to me. Marietta sucks! I just moved to north Georgia mountains. It's better up here. Ya'll are welcome up here. God bless!
How about the fact that section practice income discrimination on landlords. I was going to rent my Atlanta property out to a Section 8 tenant but I put the brakes on the decision fast when 1st I saw they don’t even pay true market rent. They want landlords to abide by their fabricated low value market rent chart. 2nd they pay more money based on predominantly white zip codes than they do predominately black zip codes. Then the mounds of paper work and knit picky inspections are ridiculous. I urged the section 8 recipient to find somewhere else because I’m not letting the government discriminate against me and my property considering they’ve done it already for hundreds of years.
Lastly non section 8 people leases are not being renewed or broken because of high rent increases so this is not just a section 8 thing. It’s hard on a lot of people who don’t even have the government’s housing support.
Don’t do it. Especially now sec8 is garbage they want u to obey their rules but when their clients don’t pay/ move others in or damage your property then you’re fighting against the tenants & sec8. Not worth it, as they control your property
The rental people have a right not to except section 8, if I was a renter I definitely would not except this type of payment programs.
Have you noticed a lot of vacant homes and apartments in your area?
Some vacant so long the buildings must be torn down. Due to destruction from the elements and no upkeep of the properties.
I think you mean if you were a landlord!
@@sierrachoco5271 Right
@@lonniedobbins778 I live in Phoenix Arizona! No matter I’m from the Chi, Flipping property is lucrative. Being a renter is to much problem for me.
Section 8 is robbery.
alot of rental properties wont take section 8 its going on all over the country.
Section 8, it should only be for the elderly, veterans or the disabled not a bunch of single baby mommas who continue to have more children in order to get more benefits.
Happening here in Wisconsin too ..my friend is disabled and is ready to have to stay with us .. same situation and there's no where for her to go 💔 😕 😔 I called landlords for over 2 weeks now. The few places that still allowed .. are full and there's alot of them saying no without even considering and ending the fact that they take it..and will not except any longer.
That really sucks. I believe sec 8 SHOULD cover elderly, disabled and veterans no question! It’s too bad all the career moochers ruin it for people like your friend. I hope everything is ok
@@dcg590 we were able to find help eventually , just yesterday we secured a place actually and she is finally settling in. Thank u
But 55 miles out of town ..still very greatful and thankful and so is she .
Section 8 doesnt pay for repairs thats the issue now so if they tear up ur apt ur stuck not to mention the annoying inspectors
Section 8 was aware that a lot of people has stopped accepting it I don't know why they don't put the people in affordable housing
Not all section 8 residents are bad and dirty people. Before I was a homeowner I rented a house off Shallowford Road near Noonday Park. The neighbors nextdoor moved in shortly after it became a section 8 home. I had no idea what section 8 was . Sadly The inside of the house is trashed, there’s trash in the front yard and the back yard. It’s pretty obvious they’re dealing drugs out of the house and I shit you not there’s eight little kids in that home. About a year ago they had a drive-by shooting happen. Every single homeowner on Sharney Lane wants them gone. Because of Covid the homeowner said there’s nothing he can do to evict them.
What this sounds like is the management company wants to start charging higher rent. Which means they are not renewing their contract with the government housing anymore.
That's exactly what's going to happen. This going to be a gold rush. Section 8 will only pay so much. Especially when that's the breaking news story of the day, almost every Day. Rising prices and inflation on everything including housing.
@@barnabasracks2930 Not only that we are going to have another 2008 housing crisis. Houses are over priced there's more buyers than there is houses for sale. I see people buying houses that are three times more for what its worth. And on top of that majority of these houses need to be brought up to code and remodeling.
Or they're just sick of the riff Raff element it brings in. I can attest to that personally living in my high rise apartment and the riff Raff element with the incentive of "eviction protection" brought in.
I live in San Antonio, TX. I know someone who works at the San Antonio Housing Authority. She told me clients cannot find housing with what their voucher pays for. Rents r rising & as well as cost of houses. She tells me it’s hard seeing them crying. Desperate for help. Gentrification isn’t helping either. I feel for them. It’s getting really rough out there.
Tell them no more kids with consequences
@@markelraya10 Haven’t you heard birth rates are down in the US 1.9 no longer 2.1. Japan, China & other countries are down. This makes the governments worry. Senior citizens can’t have children so don’t worry about them.
In over-populated Florida, out-of-staters can "transfer" their eligibility status while locals are denied the opportunity to even so much as submit an application.
Illegals are a problem. This citizen can't get help but illegals get free housing. It's messed up.
@@circesoul2218 I don’t know where you’re from but where I’m at, that’s not necessarily true. In public housing a lot of times you have multiple generations living in the complex and in some areas, tenants are allowed to pass on their apartments to a family member. Section 8 waitlists are often closed for years at a time and the process is so slow that it often takes years just for someone to get approved.
Hi, You have to be educated on the process of the program and other housing programs. I know someone who using her Section 8 Voucher to purchase a home. Brand new 5 bedroom two story home and received thousands through the FSS Program.
In my part of Florida the waiting list has been open less than 20 days in over 7 years...but even if someone gets a voucher less than half can find a place...over 50% are recycled after 180 days.
@@circesoul2218 if they are getting housing they are not illegal...when will this line of crap stop...illegals can get no benefits except emergency medical treatment. Asylum seekers are 100% legal..it is and always was one of the 2 immigration methods for the USA.
After living in Cobb for ten years straight at the same address I moved to TX in 2006 . . . best decision ever!
Section 8 should have a time limit. The elderly and disabled should keep theirs.
And veterans not Bonquisha and her 10 kids stuck on section for 20 yerars.
@@emperorcommodus2315 Meth Head Mary too.
@@emperorcommodus2315 lmao 😂
I totally understand. Accepting section 8 was the worst thing that I did as a Property owner. A completely gutted and rehabbed 4 unit building was destroyed in 9 months, and then there were roaches in every unit.
Oh no. I’m so sorry. Hard lesson learned. Never make that mistake again. You try to be nice guy and they take advantage.
Many people on section 8 work.
Nurse here. No section 8. I was asked to to vacate my rental house because " they have sold the property." Lies. I was on a month to month payment and not on a lease. I went back to talk with latest tenants.... they are renting. Go figure.
Landlords do not have to give a reason at all...month to month means you have no rights to stay except 30 days at a time
@@nolongeranurse3369 I did not say that I was stupid. I know this. You think I have a master's degree and stupid with it. You must be or know a landlard. The spelling was intentional. If you have a comment on the post then post it.let others have their saly.
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Why would they want section 8 when they can double or even triple the rent and not deal with someone from section 8 telling to fix stupid stuff if you want to get paid
They need to fix it anyway.
@@benijen no not always there's ridiculous rules landlord's are forced to follow I sold a house to a person got one of those government 1st time mortgages I finally had to tell them you either buy it the way it sits or I'll fund another buyer I'm not taken out this loan they are so they should be fixing theses stupid things so bottom line buy it way it sits or not but I was done guess what they bought it the so called rules are for them I didn't agree to them
@@youtubehatesfreedom1870 Selling is one thing, renting property is another. If you rent out property , it needs to be suitable and not needing this, that and the other to be fixed
I feel sorry for the mothers and the people. Sometimes you just can't be comfortable with government funds. I've been there and I got out of it. Because things are only going to get worse . They don't care about nobody
It would be helpful first of all if these single mother's stop having babies by all of these different men or one man that don't really want no family with them. That will help a lot.
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You can't get comfortable with a paycheck either. Specifically being a wage slave. Because the prices for everything is shooting up two to three times as fast as wages.
@@ericspwncer1274 Many women become single mothers through divorce. Men can use condoms so it’s not all the woman fault.
@@missdesireindependance5194 I still say it is the woman's fault because it's your choice if you have someone to shoot sperm in your body or not so you should make the man wear a condom and if he says no then he gets none.
Here's the issue when people receive section 8 their rent can't be increased beyond a certain amount now if the first lady is paying $700 something a month out of her pocket section 8 might be paying $700 to 900 on top of that which is about $1400 to maybe $1800 total for the complex. Most of these apartments in Cobb County want at least $2k a month for that same apartment so they stop taking section 8 which has a cap so then they can charge $2k or more to a regular person and they don't have to do the same upkeep that the section 8 program expects.
I don't know about here in Georgia but in other states if you on section 8 for a certain amount of time and you are following all the terms and conditions of the program you can use that voucher as a down payment to purchase an affordable house. Which saved the program hundreds of thousands and helped a lot of families become independent through homeownership.
how?
@@cccc8643 what do you mean by how?
@@kendallwhite3734 regardless of who wants what they have to have a certain amount of low income housing in each county or the federal housing department will investigate. If they were smart they would contact HUD on a federal level and not the local news who can't help them.
Internal Class warfare, this is exactly what I'm seeing in these comments. Respectfully in my opinion here's a very great question "Why is housing a commodity?" if a person get's up and goes to work everyday until they can afford to retire, should they not be able to afford a place to live with some human decency? The sentiment that I'm seeing here is "If you cannot afford 'market' price (whatever the landlord demands) then it's your own damn fault" not the fault of racist housing laws and practices from the early 1900s but the fault of the individual. My opinion is, housing should not be for profit, it is a right for every working person or every living person in this country, regardless of how much money a person is making everyone deserves a place to live.
I couldn't agree more. I'm out here working two jobs and barely able to find an apartment in my budget.
Nope, it a right. No one deserves anything. You have to earn it. Nothing is free and yes, if you can’t follow the rules at a particular property, you don’t have to live there. It’s not your house it’s theirs. And whatever is happening in your life is a result of your choices, most of the time, and is ‘your own dam fault’ and quit playing the race card.
@@dcg590 By that logic, everyone needs to stop popping out kids. Especially somebody with a "wash my hands" outlook on life like you. Those kids never CHOSE to be born. Y'all took it upon yourselves to CHOOSE to procreate. Now that baby will grow up to face whatever scrambled mess older generations left behind. Literally none of us asked to be here regardless of race. 🤦🤷
Amen
Well said!
I don’t blame the landlords! I wouldn’t accept those vouchers. Too many problems come with it.
Landlords should get real jobs. They're all just living off people who actually provide something to society.
@@taylorbug9 you mean provide places for people,to live? Go away. Your whining is exactly why landlords don’t like people like you. Most landlords have 1-2 properties they worked 2 job to acquire and still have full time jobs. It’s a side business. You don’t know anything about hard work because you’re always the victim right?
If the government wants to provide public housing to the poor, than it should do so. Don't force private landlords to take tenants they don't want.
and what exactly are tenants they don't want?