Harley-Davidson Dyna is Close but Not Exactly an FXR
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2022
- Harley-Davidson Dyna was the replacement for the FXR simply as the FXR was costly and time consuming for Harley-Davidson to produce. The Dyna while not as rigid or as solidly mounted as the FXR is still now doubt quite a performer. Dyna Harleys are light and nimble, it's like having a sportster with a big twin engine that doesn't beat you to death going down the road. These two platforms are however closely related and their are things you can do to your Dyna to make it more like the FXR. But a Dyna will never be an FXR simply for some of the frame characteristics.
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Have you taken a Dyna made the chassis more rigid like the FXR?
No. All stock frame and suspension
You can add stabilizers, but honestly the frame itself is the problem. Still love the dyna to death tho. Better than a Softail
yer and i kept my hands at my side at the time
my bike is a fxdgwi 88 1st of the 6 x speeds, built in 2005 ,40k service in the last 3 x months, cant do it again so i ordered a bike lift 1k delivered kangaroo dollars
@@Bluis5445 I was led to believe the frame wasn't the problem. Apparently, the rubber mounting system and the death wobble were the problem.
Glad I stayed with my 1986 FXR all these years.
I’m buying my first Harley. Looking at a stock 88 FXR Need a foo video for a somewhat novice wrencher explaining the basics to keeping it running. Thx all.
Bought my first bike about 5 years ago, a 2012 FXDC. Didn't know one model from the other and bought it from a fellow veteran with service related injuries. Had no idea what a gem I was purchasing. Love my scoot, powerful enough, light, nimble, customizable. Flat out swoon over the classic form it has. Can't imagine ever selling it. EDIT: Can't tell you how many times someone has walked up to my scoot "Black Beauty" and said "Damn, a Dyna. Had one a few years back. Wish I'd never had sold it." Honestly happens frequently.
BRING BACK THE SHELF 😂
I miss the old days of the shelf myself!
@@GixxerFoo I think we all do
Ahh the shelf… the sag the beautiful sag😜great videos
I saw an 86 FXR the other day for $4k.
Needless to say, it's no longer for sale. 🤩
I’ve had an 82 FXR with the shovelhead, loved it. Had a 93 FXR it was nice as well. Then I got a 2008 Dyna, didn’t like the way it wallowed. About 10 years ago I picked up 2003 Superglide, still riding it.
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I have never understood why Harley dropped the Dyna line!!
Progress, the M8 engine wouldn't fit that frame without a redesign. That's why they redesigned the softail and rolled over models into it trying to stream line their product. Still BS to me, I miss the Dyna.
@@GixxerFoo Thats the best answer i've heard, nailed it!
At the end of the day,it was all about cost. Using 1 frame & basically everything else except the bolt ons,tank,fenders,seat,etc cut on hand inventory & production cost.
I don’t think anyone understands why Harley has ever done the things Harley does.
@@soldierboy425 Yep!!! Also the Slim was another fantastic scoot gone gone gone!!
Definitely right on the weight issue, Dynas are about 100lbs lighter than the equivalent Softail
Softails are tanks compared to the Dyna!
If we’re going down that route almost every Japanese and Italian bike is lighter, faster, better equipped, more nimble, and so on.
@@TeensierPython We're not comparing them, so who cares?
I really enjoy my EVO wide glide but my 89FXRS is the bomb! Creek roads are a treat...
Nice video ! 1985 and 1986 all original EVO 80000 miles FXR Motorcycles here. Wouldn't want to trade for any Dyna, with any motor in there. On curvy roads (now that's motorcycling !) no Dyna can keep up with my wife and me on our FXR's. Yes on the freeway they can, actually they'll fly by just like that, but than again; riding a freeway is boring as hell anyway, and if I'd like to go fast in a straight line, I'd probably get a BMW S 1000 RR doin' 310 Km/hr (193 mph), which I don't, again, since going straight is boring. Curves, switchbacks, more curves steep ride up, steep ride down, ah well you know it: like The world famous Stelvio Pass, now that's motorcycling ;-)
Bought my first Harley July ‘22, really had no idea what I was buying other than I wanted a HD, 2007 dyna super glide custom, I absolutely love my dyna, wouldn’t trade anything in the world for it.
Finally my 2016 Dyna Fat Bob gets some love! And here I thought I was the only person that appreciated a bike without enough bodywork to qualify as a sedan anymore!
Dyna Fat Bobs are super comfortable, I love that stock seat on those bikes.
Love my fat bob
Excellent video as always! I'm a die-hard FXR fan still have my 94 lowrider custom with a 107, just bought a 2022 lowrider ST. Best of Both Worlds. thanks for sharing
Right on!
I bought a new wide glide in 02, and never looked back. HD only having softails just makes it easier to to not buy a new one. RIP Dyna. May the current Dyna fleet live forever.
Yep, new FXDL in 2002, 88 c.i. twinkie. Still have it, probably won't sell it. Also, have an 883 I bought in '97.
I found out the hard way Harley breaks are not as good as others, thank goodness no crash came from it.
The FXDX came with twin front discs just like my Sportster Sport. Single disc Harleys are flat out dangerous
I had an FXR Super Glide and I just loved it. It was so smooth after the speed got up.
I have a 93 f.x.r super glide and just like you I love it 😀 😍.
Hell yea ! I put solid motor mounts n 14" rear shocks on my 09' clubstyle fxd and is ALMOST an fxr
Love watching your late model dyna vids!🤘🛵
That is awesome! I bet that bike handles like a beast now!
Of the 39 motorcycles I've owned which were mostly Japanese but a spattering of British bikes and a few Harleys as well as one Spanish bike however my Dyna is the most reliable and easily my favorite bike ever that has nearly 70,000 miles on it and never leaves me stranded and is comfortable enough to tour on two up .
What year and model? My prior 2016 low rider s left me stranded several times, my wife hated riding on it, and I would never do more than 10 minutes on the highway it was so uncomfortable. Somehow it was still my favorite all time bike.
Woo hoo! Love me some Dyna.
Great video Gixx, until now I didn't understand what a dyna or fxr really was. Thanks for the info
Happy to help! FXR is a hell of a platform, Harley just wanted a cheaper way to build a bike.
Merry Christmas man . Good video as always
Superb yet concise Intel as usual.
From Southern California ~ Ride Forever!
Had a 91 fxr loved that bike I was a little big for it but I loved it
Don't forget to pick up your first Dyna Bro kit complete with all white Nike Air Force 1 sneaker's, skinny jeans, SOA cut with a "Vote for Pedro" pin and clam shell wind screen !. Act now and we'll even throw in a " How to wave like a Dyna Bro" video, explaining the lean over technique while giving the peace sign, the lower the better! So be original, be a...Dyna Broooo!! 🤣I love a good wake and bake
Merry Christmas!! Wonderful content this whole year.
Merry Christmas! Thank you!
Thanks Gix my 01 wideglide flex’s quite a bit when pushing it through the twisties. I did replace the rubber mounts with new stock ones and this helped a bit. It’s super stable in a straight line though and has plenty of grunt since bumping the capacity up to 103 with se 211 cams and 42 Mikuni carb 😊
This is what I come to hear, Gixxer, a great storehouse of knowledge: all things Harley.
I knew the FXRs were highly valued, and are high priced today. You set the record strait on Dynas.
Do another on this subject brother, a lot of old school friends out here!!
Another great video!!! Currently it's 11 degrees in N GA.... BTW Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
Really enjoyed that vid, hope you're all good and safe over in the US.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you sir
Man I do miss my 07 FXD standard traded in on my 2018 FLFB but that M8 is on another level!
Thanks for the #dynabro video gixxerfoo! As an owner of a 06 Fxdli dyna Lowrider I have the 88tc with EFI and 1st year of the 6 speed. With almost 35k on the clock she will still keep up with most of the bagger 103 and 107 stock bikes. Replacing and keep check on the motor mounts is huge in eliminating the wobble. Heavy duty front fork oil too.
Watching this had me missing my two 1985 FXRC Low Glides, limited edition 1075 made. Bought one new one used.
A ton of flyin fast info. Well done.
Absolutely loved my tc SuperGlide.
Currently own an EVO Fxr.
I love my Fat Bob 103ho. After some tweeks here with some electronics and swapping out the stock cans for slipons that are half the weight, the holeshots are silly and the topend seems endless. It's easy to hit 100 plus in 85 mph hwy traffic. I think the key is lot's of F/A and that extra gear in the six speed. Puts you right where you want to be in traffic. And it is like riding a sportster. Cuts like a knife! The (only) thing lacking is the stock suspension. No adjustability, except for rear preload. But being stout from the factory they aren't horrible. But factory twin calipers in front really get you woed when you're rolling along. Mainly because of the lack of extra weight from all that luggage. My next addon is a warrior fairing to buffet some of that 80 mph head wind. No windshield of course. Love your channel. Merry Xmas!!
I have a 2012 dyna fat bob 103 and love it
I had an 06 dyna super glide custom with a fuel injected 96. I traded it in on a street glide in 2014 and have regretted it ever since. Should have kept it for a second bike to cruise around town I just didn’t have the money to have two back then. Absolutely miss it!!
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Merry Christmas to you too!
Thanks Gixxer, Some for me to ponder as I am considering buying a used Dyna perhaps in the spring. I currently am on a 1992 sporty 883 and while I like it I've always liked this guy's Dyna.
Comment for algorithm. Good job on this channel man! Love the content.
Love my 07 Streetbob
Well ; according to my factory manuals the 03 softail weighs 22 lbs more than my 07 streetbob. I know for a fact that my 16” 150 tire on the softail weighs 7 lbs more than the 17” 160 on the streetbob . 15 lbs from somewhere else . Maybe the balancers . I believe Harley went to the softail for looks and mono shock for better ride and performance. Looks with performance.
Cake and eat it too -
It is what it is -
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I had a 1999 Dyna FXDX 1450. Great bike.
Love the vid.
Thanks for the info
The dyna was built for the look that's whatt people wanted in the 90s
Dyna wide glide x 2 here 👍🏻
"Dynas are big twin sportsters" I hear all the time. I own one of each and they could not be more different. Each has strengths and weaknesses but I'll tell you this, whichever one I'm riding I never think of the other one. Both are fantastic in their own way. Thank you harley for making these 2 amazing platforms. RIP Sportster 1957-2022 and RIP Dynaglide 1991-2017.
I just got a first year TC88 FXDL. I think I like it. It's the only one I've ever riden.
Merry Christmas
I had an fxd an fxrsp and it’s far away as east to west and now I still have the FXRSP today
More on the 2006 dyna!!! Please 🙏
The FXRs can be a really nice bike especially if they are taken care of well (It can be hard to find this) and then as reliable as the Evo motor is, from the factory the power is lacking, but with the right upgrades you got a good bike. I like the Dynas too, been nice if they would have ran that Dyna Super Glide Sport longer with the factory blacked out motor and transmission. And like the Wide Glide for a more stretched out cruiser. Why Harley stopped making some of their best looking model bikes I don't know. I have said this before I think sadly Harleys glory days are over in terms of their best looking models, however just now getting the factory hp up where it should have been 25 to 30 years ago, and without having to be a 114 plus cubic inch motor. The Motor Company has been a little guilty IMO of what many people fall prey too how can we make the most money? So they kept the motors undertuned, which when yiure first starting out isnt a bad thing, but alot of guys are going to eventually want more power, so you have to put some decent money to get there.
I had a 2001 Dyna Super Glide I had new pipes put on it had the engine bored out to 1550 filter change and I kept it for 15 years sold it to a good friend of mine
I am very lucky to own a 1989 FXRS Low Rider. H-D's looking for cheaper ways to do things is why they are making the junk they are today. The reason the Twin Cam engine exists is because it was cheaper to mass produce than the EVO, which was a much better engine. It allowed H-D to increase production numbers, while producing inferior bikes and charging more for them. H-D has been on a downhill slide for a long time, to the point where the new ones are pretty much total rubbish. H-D's increased production after the introduction of the Twin Cam wound up causing the market to become flooded with used bikes, and they depreciated rapidly. That's how I managed to get mine. That also affects new bikes, that don't hold their value nearly as well as the old (post AMF) bikes did. Poor quality, rapid depreciation, and super high prices on new bikes are what is going to put H-D out of business.
I’m buying my first Harley. Looking at a stock 88 FXR Need a video for a somewhat novice wrencher explaining the basics to keeping it running. Thx all.
0 that's a good analogy it's a big twin Sportster my neighbor turned me on to one that had been in a wreck it was his but I built a couple other bikes for him and he surprised and gave me a 97.
Except front end was legs were bad so I used a Sportster front end so it sits a little low. In the front and I had to use an FLH fender in the back.
I added something called trutrack . That limits the movement of the engine. With front fork brace, it handles like it’s on railroad tracks!
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Thanks brother
Merry Christmas y'all!
I have a 03 superglide stage 4 build.. I love it.. it's such a fun bike to ride.. my 14cvo king is fun but my dyna gets my adrenaline up lol
I installed Legend 13" rear shocks and Progressive heavy front springs on my 2010 Superglide C. 100% better. Rear wheel still wanders though.
Very interesting got my thinking about trading in my 06 road king for a switchback
I bought my first Dyna 2 months ago. And comparing it to all of my past Harley's, I rate it in the top 3. It is a 1995 convertible.
Agreed...I have a Stage 2 93 FXDL....great bike!
I have owned 2 tall FXRs. (fxr-sp - fxrt) Never thought a Harley could be so much fun. Sort of like a bit Sportster that corners oh so well. If HD would come out with such a recipe again, my knees would become weak. and probably feel dizzy.
I have the 2006 anniversary edition and there telling me it’s really like a 2007 , I don’t know but I like the red white and blue paint job with the number 1 logo
I had a 05 fxd that I put a 120R 124hp /131tq engine , it got a mean speed wobble under hard throttle is got so bad at times you wanted to jump off almost a tank slapper.I put a sputhe Stablilizer but all it did was move the speed wobble up to the 120mph range.never could top it out removed the engine and gave up on the bike.my 86 fxrc 11to1 comp ev38 cam never had a speed wobble at any speed and could run it flat out wide open for as long as I wanted to go.
Ive had many harleys. The only one I miss is my FXR !
Your videos are very informative and well done I've seen a bit of a video once we had a picture of my bike in there I have an fxd 35 and you probably know it has its own manual and whatever but a video on that would be incredibly awesome to notice the difference is because I do have a problem buying parts like stators and the next thing I want to do is upgrade the cam and do some work on it like that and I'm kind of lost
Electrical system upgrades for charging aren't a bad idea, it's something that's rarely done as well too!
@GixxerFoo I did put a new stator on and like you said in that video I couldn't buy the part like any other motor but J&P Cycles put one together for me
@@GixxerFoo end when I don't have my reading glasses I can't see a damn thing so when I talk and text sometimes it doesn't come out quite right and I don't see it so my apologies for that
Love my 2014 Dyna Wide Glide ad in 2021 when i purchased a new Street Glide i refused to trade in or sell my Wide Glide, I did have an offer last summer that was appealing but then i declined, it wasn't even for sale but i like the Wide side and have no desire to get rid of it. same with my 2009 Rocker C, in 2014 when i got my Wide Glide i had no desire to sell or trade my Rocker C and still have it today for a total of 3 awesome Harley's.
I dont see myself getting another unless the Street Glide comes out with a larger version of the Rev Max, then i would buy another (maybe a smaller version of the Pan America is it comes out, the 1250 is too dam tall for me)
Maybe a Bronx if i like the look
Wondering about the motor mount stabilizers, they make stiffer mounts?
The thin wall tubing on the wide FXR down tubes gave a vagueness to the front end stability, it looked hideous, the engine bobbled back and forth in the frame like rocking chair and the ergonomic were like sitting on a unicycle.
After test riding my first Dyna I told the sales rep the difference was like night and day.
The only difference I would have made would have been to mount the swing arm onto the frame more like the touring frame.
I wish they bring back the dyna I love my 2012 dyna fat bob
I still regret trading my '92 FXRTC back in 2008. It was amped up to stage 3. Oh well.
I miss my FXDX 2001 model in concord purple
Your in Oklahoma?? I’ve been watching you for awhile and never knew that. Just moved out to el Reno from Okc. Small world
And I am disabled I've been noticing that my 750 Pound road glide starting to feel pretty heavy I've been thinking about building me a Dyna based road glide
Dyna Switch back is a great bike to start with, it's got the touring style front end already. You can put any fairing on there you like pretty easily!
@@GixxerFoo yeah about 8 years ago or so we built a bagger V-Rod buddy and I we put a road glide front end on that and the full size bags it was pretty cool but the V-Rod weighs 750 like my bike does so you know what's the point there
Harley-Davidson should have kept the FXR! 🏍💨🏍💨
Question, do all Harley motors bolt interchange. Want to put a 103 on my 99 Roadking.
Another issue with the FXR was the e rear shock angle
Another negative issue with the FXR was, ironically, one of the things that made it handle so well: the Japy rear shock angle.
Yeah they handled pretty damn well but the shock angle was wonky.
@@GixxerFoo Also, very comfortable; I rode my 82 1/2 (shovel) Texas to New Jersey and back 2-up, no problem.
I have an 07 Dyna superglide and was wondering what tuner would you recommend?
In 2018, Harley released M8 and Jeep released Wrangler JL. Both serve for the pollution compliance purpose. Nothing wrong with Dyna or Wrangler JK.
Great video. Always said a Dyna was a big twin Sporty. Much to the dismay of my Dyna friends. One question, what motor was in the FXR CVO? Seems like the pick of the bunch.
I believe they had the 80" Evolution.
They carried it over a few more years for those bikes!
It was the Evo, FXR never saw a twin cam unless it was built by someone in their shop.
Avere il telaio isolato dal motore (e dalla forcella posteriore) è un notevole vantaggio. È una soluzione " sportiva " adottata da molte case (Ducati, Motoguzzi) in grado di migliorare agilità, smorzare le vibrazioni, isolando il telaio dagli sforzi torsionali che il motore imprime alla ruota (infatti il motore è collegato alla forcella). Il punto di forza sta negli isolatori elasto cinematici (motor mount). Se la moto col passare del tempo o con i km diventa imprecisa occorre sostituirli. Montare dei PosiTrac aiuta a mantenere l'allineamento costante per sfruttare tutta la vita degli isolatori in gomma, ma andranno comunque sostituiti se davvero amiamo le Dyna performanti e veloci
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How rigid are the new softail frames compared to the FXR?
I have 2002 Lowrider!! Not the quickest, fastest but absolute no problem
I own a 17 fxdls and a fxdx. They are just amazing motorcycles. Won’t ever catch me on a Softail 🤢
I had a 06 street bob and i loved it. First in a 6 speed and bigger forks and heaver frame.
What's your favorite year(s) FXR V/S Dyna year(s)?
what about FXDX DYNA SUPER GLIDE SPORT 1999 ? It is a good bike to buy ?
Eh... your comment about the new softies... They're better right off the bat than the dyna, stock for stock. Once you lift the softie like we do to dynas, it's that much better again, from a performance perspective.
I 0:03 I have a 2005 Dyna Low Rider. Carbureted. Twin Cam 88. I think it’s got 210 cams in it. Not a bad bike though a little rough riding compared to my 16 Road Glide. What are your thoughts about this set up for 2005 in a low rider? Cons, pros?
SE cams? Those are decent mid range torque cams, which is about right for a Dyna. Dyna will run a little rougher down the road compared to the touring platform. They are quite a bit lighter compared to the touring bikes.
@@GixxerFoo sorry. I meant 211 cams. SE if I remember correctly.
I've got an 01 FXDX and put S&S .510 cams in it. Made a big difference. Also installed cam plate and oil pump with gear drive cams. About $2,500 at local private shop
The Switchback was spoiled by the styling of the wheels. Interestingly, it could be said that the Switchback was the predecessor to the Sport Glide. And the styling of the Sport Glide wheels aren't everyone's cup of tea.
95 Dyna still smiling, if top speed is not your thing you'll be happy 👍
Sorry, the Dyna is no FXR, put 88,000 on my FXR, great handling ride. Sold my 2003 Dyna in 3000 miles. It was an I’ll handling pile. Nothing in the suspension will fix the wet noodle frame. Both of them were low riders.
I have a 35K mile stock '91 FXR, to be honest that thing doesn't have enough power to get out of it's own way. (I do have to admit it is a lot of fun to ride though). Barring a twin cam motor swap can you point me to EVO upgrade videos you've made? Thanks and Merry Christmas
@@davemoore1101 Why wouldn't I ride it? Around town it's a blast, just runs out of poop way too soon
I’m buying my first Harley. Looking at a stock 88 FXR Need a foo video for a somewhat novice wrencher explaining the basics to keeping it running. Thx all.
@@glennminnick2185 My suggestions are to keep the oil pump check valve operational. If it gets stuck you'll leak like there's no tomorrow while riding, (There's many articles online describing how and what to do), and then there's the points. if they're still there toss'em and install an electronic one. If I remember correctly at the time ULTIMA was the most cost effective way to go. I don't work for them nor do I endorse them and I am clueless as to what the latest and greatest or cheapest is but mine has served trouble free for many years. AND: If you subscribe to the channel you can search the Foo's database. (Just remembered that so I answered my own question atop)
Follow up comment/question- where the hell are they all? I go some local places in the warmer weather (Pops 66 in Arcadia OK) and I see lots of baggers and Softails, but few Dynas. Often, in a line up of 30-odd bikes, NONE although occasionally one-or-two. Has to be a crap ton of them out there considering how long the Motor Company sold 'em. I just rarely seem them, at least compared to the other models. Thoughts???
We are out riding them, not stopping at boomer bars to reminisce about the days before viagra.
@GixxerFoo I have an 06 wide glide with the twin cam 88. But it’s efi. Is it still more comparable to to the 96? I.e. heads, oil pump, hydraulic tensioner?
I have the same bike and was wondering the same thing. Love the bike! It keeps up with the 103 and 107 they will pull away but not horribly. I love the handling. I replaced the rear shocks and front springs and added a mustang seat. It came with screaming eagle pipes Wow is it fun and sounds amazing!. Also all my friends ride Turing bikes but I see them loving the look and sound of my ride.
@@sharonparker4595for sure! I get lots of looks and plenty of power. It’s just new to me and I’ve never opened it up to see the tensioners. It’s cold enough, I might as well do it
Please share if you do open it up
@@glennminnick2185 for sure! Im in the process of buying another bike. That’ll give me time to take the old girl apart🤙🤙
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This whole video is based on the worst years of the Dyna …. It’s Pre 06 and ideally 2002 FXDX is the ultimate comparison and ultimate dyna
Wasn’t the Dyna frame changed in 06 also?
Yes. The 2006-2017 Dyna frames are a bit longer. I'd like to see a video comparing the older and newer Dyna frames.